Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Ricker]Interesting reading this post and the related link in the post.

Now I have found Brazil, particularly Sao Paulo, to be the BEST and easiest place I have ever been to meet NON-pros.[/QUOTE]I think you came to the same conclusion as the guy in the post. He's now living in Rio.

[url]http://www.rooshv.com/colombia-analysis[/url]

In my opinion though Rio has too many sex tourists and it's not so easy to mingle with the middle-working class there because of that. I'm pretty sure São Paulo is the best choice in Brazil in terms of variety of girls, experiences and nightlife (but the p4p seems very expensive)

I will paste this stuff in the São Paulo thread to continue the discussion there.

As for me I'm tired of Medellin. I have high hopes for Cali now especially because I love morenitas and salsa ... (it's funny that in the last novelas that I'd been following in Brazil: "viver a vida" and "gama de gato", they were all trying to learn salsa...) :-)

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Second, often guys go out to regular clubs/discos in groups with new found "friends" and a few girls stringing along. The bartabs can add up quick. I've seen this happen at the Mansion/El Castillo.

Funny thing, and I'm not saying THIS guy ever did since I don't know, but when the check comes around, these types tend to disappear.

Stay safe & be smart & you'll have a great time, Schwmm[/QUOTE]I met some nice Colombian guys. Seems the culture is. Girls never pay. Guys don't open tabs. Pay in advance and carry their bottle with them everywhere they go. Even to the bathroom.

Well, that´s it!!

Walldawg´s wife showed up today, so we couldn´t investigate the casas on the ¨other¨side of Oriental.

We started off though with our plan, and left the PH at 9:45.

Sexi had 13 girls today, but he was off for one that rocked his world.

I went back to Barcelona for titty milk and a blow job.

We were having a snack by 11:30.

The wife of his called at 11:45 to say she was waiting downstairs.

I/we wanted to be able to swing by Miel Y Canela.

I believe that is the first place that a friend took me two years ago, the very first time in MDE.

I am still jonesin´for a skinny plastic titted ***** over in Minorista.

We are off to eat sushi with his wife, and her brother that delivered here to our doorstep from Manizales.

She ( the wife ), as in wifed up, is as hot or hotter than any girl in any casa that we ave seen so far.

He met her on line.

If you are coming to Medellin, and need a wing or a guiide, let me know.

Parcero

[QUOTE=Chronoshift]What a difference Colombia is from Canada. I'm meeting 1-4 new non-pros weekly. I used to live in a lame apartment (box) in El Poblado for 1, 500$/month for a little while. Used to meet some non-pros here and there and I'd keep striking out with most of them. I'd get there number, take them on a dinner date, kiss them, try to go further, they wouldn't let me, and then I'd lose interest. "Quiero amistad! No quieres amistad? ". Amistad has become one of my most hated Spanish words. And Boba is about my favourite.

But now I moved from that lame apartment into an awesome/big finca in Envigado, my Spanish has improved a little and I also have a car. Meeting more girls and getting further than kissing with some of them (BJ or sex) but I'm still finding it hard to have sex with a girl within the first or second night. Maybe it's just not really possible.

In Canada, I could barely get a girl to look at me, BUT if a girl does look or talk to you in Canada, trust you enough to jump in your car, go out dancing with you or come home with you on the first night, you're pretty much sure that you're at least going to get your dick sucked. Doesn't seem to be the case here, at least not for me. Seems like the girls want to go out at least 3, 4 or 5 times before doing anything too sexual which really isn't a problem it's just not something I'm used to.

So I'm wondering if what I've described is pretty accurate for most non-pros. I'm starting to become a lot more amist0s0 and patient which is at least getting me somewhere, whereas when I first started out I had my Toronto attitude of being a bit of a prick and trying to make something happen as quickly as possible and if not just ignoring the girl and hope she'll come crawling back.

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Once you finally hit paydirt then the real GFE begins. To me it is worth the wait since blue balls are not an issue.

As far as the Gringa GFE, I can't afford it.

[QUOTE=Chronoshift]What a difference Colombia is from Canada. I'm meeting 1-4 new non-pros weekly. I used to live in a lame apartment (box) in El Poblado for 1, 500$/month for a little while. Used to meet some non-pros here and there and I'd keep striking out with most of them. I'd get there number, take them on a dinner date, kiss them, try to go further, they wouldn't let me, and then I'd lose interest. "Quiero amistad! No quieres amistad? ". Amistad has become one of my most hated Spanish words. And Boba is about my favourite.

But now I moved from that lame apartment into an awesome/big finca in Envigado, my Spanish has improved a little and I also have a car. Meeting more girls and getting further than kissing with some of them (BJ or sex) but I'm still finding it hard to have sex with a girl within the first or second night. Maybe it's just not really possible.

In Canada, I could barely get a girl to look at me, BUT if a girl does look or talk to you in Canada, trust you enough to jump in your car, go out dancing with you or come home with you on the first night, you're pretty much sure that you're at least going to get your dick sucked. Doesn't seem to be the case here, at least not for me. Seems like the girls want to go out at least 3, 4 or 5 times before doing anything too sexual which really isn't a problem it's just not something I'm used to.

So I'm wondering if what I've described is pretty accurate for most non-pros. I'm starting to become a lot more amist0s0 and patient which is at least getting me somewhere, whereas when I first started out I had my Toronto attitude of being a bit of a prick and trying to make something happen as quickly as possible and if not just ignoring the girl and hope she'll come crawling back.

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[QUOTE=Chronoshift]What a difference Colombia is from Canada. I'm meeting 1-4 new non-pros weekly. I used to live in a lame apartment (box) in El Poblado for 1, 500$/month for a little while. Used to meet some non-pros here and there and I'd keep striking out with most of them. I'd get there number, take them on a dinner date, kiss them, try to go further, they wouldn't let me, and then I'd lose interest. "Quiero amistad! No quieres amistad? ". Amistad has become one of my most hated Spanish words. And Boba is about my favourite.

But now I moved from that lame apartment into an awesome/big finca in Envigado, my Spanish has improved a little and I also have a car. Meeting more girls and getting further than kissing with some of them (BJ or sex) but I'm still finding it hard to have sex with a girl within the first or second night. Maybe it's just not really possible.

In Canada, I could barely get a girl to look at me, BUT if a girl does look or talk to you in Canada, trust you enough to jump in your car, go out dancing with you or come home with you on the first night, you're pretty much sure that you're at least going to get your dick sucked. Doesn't seem to be the case here, at least not for me. Seems like the girls want to go out at least 3, 4 or 5 times before doing anything too sexual which really isn't a problem it's just not something I'm used to.

So I'm wondering if what I've described is pretty accurate for most non-pros. I'm starting to become a lot more amist0s0 and patient which is at least getting me somewhere, whereas when I first started out I had my Toronto attitude of being a bit of a prick and trying to make something happen as quickly as possible and if not just ignoring the girl and hope she'll come crawling back.

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See, reports like this are rare and actually really help to understand the idiosyncrasy of a gender population. I don't consider this a NON pro report, is more sociological. I think in the general information board can fit just fine.

I see that you like the "seriesitas" right? Yes they are like that, many of them. Is nice if you are into that "amistad" play roll. I keep one of another friends like that but certainly I do not put much time and effort to them. Eventually some of they make the first move, still I go away. I not ready for all the drama involved. Guilty feelings are not my favorite state of mind.

But Hey, watch out many of those are also playgirls. They know that as much as they make you wait and craving for her nice piece of ass more they can manipulate you. There are even some psychologist artists they can empty you bank account and not give more than a couple lame kisses. They give you sex when they have the house under her name, especially if they don't like you but want your money.

So No calls, "amistad lines", absurd excuses for let you waiting and not showing up, shopping dates, inviting her "friends" to party with you making you pay big checks and still not giving you sex and many other facts most mongers here delivery hide away are unequivocal reflects of a good playgirl and she is not into you.

Go to the most obvious sluts. If they still trying to play the "seriesita" roll then just move on and don't waist your time if what you want is sex in between the fun moments. Still nothing here that I can tell you is the discover of the warm water, most people know that half of cold and half of hot glass of water makes it up. Is not hard to find out the truth being a couple moths anywhere.

The regular girls you can really pick up, they may be honest that they are happy with you, have fun and not get riped off every night you go out are the NOT very good looking ones, unfortunately for me I can't date them, my dumb ass head is so stupid that can not process that valuable information. So mystery is partly solved here.

Good luck and keep enjoying life.

BTW, I love Canadian people in general. Girls are nice, still have the heavy influence of the Americans but I found out they are better at bed for some strange reason.

[QUOTE=Chronoshift]Doesn't seem to be the case here, at least not for me. Seems like the girls want to go out at least 3, 4 or 5 times before doing anything too sexual which really isn't a problem it's just not something I'm used to.

So I'm wondering if what I've described is pretty accurate for most non-pros. I'm starting to become a lot more amist0s0 and patient which is at least getting me somewhere, whereas when I first started out I had my Toronto attitude of being a bit of a prick and trying to make something happen as quickly as possible and if not just ignoring the girl and hope she'll come crawling back.[/QUOTE]That sounds like the consensus!

[QUOTE=Runner Up]I have been to Medellin 5x and I am pretty good looking and have girls hit on me in the USA and can pick up girls in the bars in the USA regularly. I do nothing but non pros and Medellin is pretty easy given I usually start from scratch every night. I have met girls and had them in the bedroom in less than 2 hours and then my last trip it took 3 days with one girl. I was banging others though. Another girl was really religious and I never got anything from her. I thought I could crack her but it didn't happen. There are better cities for non pros I think in Colombia and definitley better countries. I think Medellin is a little boring and once outside of tiny parque lleras there isn't much more to do. I hate pros and relate it to stinking your penis in a urinal. I wish this site had more non pro info.[/QUOTE]I heard you dude, being the good looking guy you are you really don't need any kind of sex forum especially if you are cool. When I was only into civilians I never look for a sex forum to make the play. Yes there are better cities for that and way better forums for what you are looking for bro, I think you are kind of lost. I love pros, and all the guys here too, many of them mix the game but this is essentially a board for escorts.

You being that good at that don't need anything like this, you know that. Try facebook or myspace. Or all bunch of dot coms.

PD: I'm agree US is so easy to pick a girl up pretty much everywhere, me being an alien looking guy can do it with out any problem, and if you are black shit is just easier than 1x1. But dude, is very hard to get a good performer in bed.

[QUOTE=Runner Up]I have been to Medellin 5x and I am pretty good looking and have girls hit on me in the USA and can pick up girls in the bars in the USA regularly. I do nothing but non pros and Medellin is pretty easy given I usually start from scratch every night. I have met girls and had them in the bedroom in less than 2 hours and then my last trip it took 3 days with one girl. I was banging others though. Another girl was really religious and I never got anything from her. I thought I could crack her but it didn't happen. There are better cities for non pros I think in Colombia and definitley better countries. I think Medellin is a little boring and once outside of tiny parque lleras there isn't much more to do. I hate pros and relate it to stinking your penis in a urinal. I wish this site had more non pro info.[/QUOTE]Reading your post I agree with you that MDE is really not that good for you. This area to me is Pro Centro.

Remind me not to think to much of your urinal comment.

A great day for the casas!

Which isn't?

Anyway, Walldawg is wifed up but sent her out today for the royal spa treatment, which gave us about four free hours to investigate the casas.

If you look at the casa maps, and notice that it appears that there are more casas on ¨the other side¨ of Oriental, but it is really bars that are listed there: Ececutive, Maracaibo etc.

Anyway, we started out at around 2:15 and headed over to Miel Y Canela (honey and cinnamon) which really sucked, and there were three girls there, and it isn't in El Centro.

From there we went to Alejas, I think that there were five girls there. (within walking distance of all of the other casitas). Calle 54 No. 42-13 tel 216 9602.

After Alejas, we walked to Atena which is located on Cra 45 No. 55-45 Tel 254 5234

The selection there was pretty good, I think that there were seven, but they were occupied really quicly, and we kept moving anyway.

After Alejas, we almost went to Geishas by mistake, and once we almost started up the stairs, we turned out and went next door to Relax, or whatever it is called, but there were like two girls there.

Next up, we met a young guy there that passes out the business cards on the street.

He led us to a place that has only been open a couple of weeks called LATINS SUITE located on Calle 57 No. 50-19 telephone 511 5475 / 317 422 6042 which is very close to Davinas Club (Mansion Verde) which is one block away.

They had five girls, but only one that was okay.

Afterwards, we hit New Life, and the selection wasn't as good as usual, and to our surprise, one of the PH regulars was there working. She didn't come out for the lineup.

There were some girls there that we hadn't seen before, as well.

NEW LIFE is awesome though, and I just realized this week that there is a steam bath in there to take the girls into for 5 thousand extra pesos. I would love to be in there dripping with sweat having one suck my dick while the other does whatever.

Next, back to Everyone's favorite SEXI. SEXI definitely has the BEST selection.

Saw a three Gringos in there that I knew, and three more outside that are personal friends.

They assured us that they wouldn't fuck any of ¨OUR¨ girls. We both sessioned there and both had a great experience. As far as things go, I say that SEXI is the very best casita in Medellin, and the line up has very beautiful girls who are more than willing to please.

******IF YOU GO-PLEASE DO NOT TIP MORE THAN 10 THOUSAND PESOS*******

For extra services.

On the street, walking, we found a card on a window sill from Shannon. When I was with Sharkbait, we investigated that one, but, when we got there, there was a for rent sign out on the window. There is a distinct posibility that we were confused.

The business card looked new. Shannon would be located at Calle 57 No. 42-12 254 6990.

I just called, and they are open, so we were definitely not in the right place.

The good news is that they are open later than all of the other casas. I think until 10pm

The only casas that we haven't been to are Loutron, Energy, and Abydos, as well as Blue room, and Samsara.

Samsara, Blue Room, and Abydos are all Located on 33.

Energy is located near Obilisco by the stadium, and loutron is located on one of the big hills leaving out of Poblado.

In terms of Loutron; like Jimmy Dr says, ¨why would you pay 6 times as much for the same girls? ¨

We arrived back at the PH before Walldawg's wife got back, so we didn't have to lie and say we were at church.

I had one over last night that I went around the world with, and had at least four or five call today to come to the PH for some of my peso-nality.

I am not exactly sure which, if any, that I will do tonight.

Hopefull, Walldawg will be able to send that wife off again so that we can go off and investigate the Meddellin casas a little further.

If you are coming to MDE, and need a wing or a guide, let me know.

Parcero

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Hello, Runner up,

You may be wrong, in Medellin the line between regular chicas and prepagos is very blurred, given incentive (money, marriage, material things) any girl will fuck, it depends on the carrot you are offering, give the email of the regular girl you think is not a prepago, and I will give your her rate and may be a naked picture, it depends on how attractive you are and how much money you have, any girl will fuck you in Medellin, only the parameters vary money + attactiveness, it is like the supply and demand curve, the more attrative you are less money you need, less attrative you are more money it takes.

There are some that will never fuck for money, and the chicas are the one you will never meet as a gringo.

[QUOTE=Runner Up]I have been to Medellin 5x and I am pretty good looking and have girls hit on me in the USA and can pick up girls in the bars in the USA regularly. I do nothing but non pros and Medellin is pretty easy given I usually start from scratch every night. I have met girls and had them in the bedroom in less than 2 hours and then my last trip it took 3 days with one girl. I was banging others though. Another girl was really religious and I never got anything from her. I thought I could crack her but it didn't happen. There are better cities for non pros I think in Colombia and definitley better countries. I think Medellin is a little boring and once outside of tiny parque lleras there isn't much more to do. I hate pros and relate it to stinking your penis in a urinal. I wish this site had more non pro info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Runner Up]There are better cities for non pros I think in Colombia and definitley better countries.[/QUOTE]Which cities and which countries?

[quote=ricker]well i've been to medellin countless times and am very good looking and can't walk half a block without women flocking all over me, and, i despise all you guys who do the pros.

hahahaha, that was a joke. i couldn't help it.

anyway, my experience and thoughts about dealing with non-pros.

with non-pros, i use and enjoy a very non-aggressive approach.

if i like a chica, and we're having fun together, and she's not trying to milk me for gifts and/or money (i'm not stupid), i honestly don't mind waiting a bit for the fun in the cama, because when it happens, it happens better.

an old buddy of mine, when i was a young whippersnapper used to say to me "ricker, let the pussy come to you". "tranquilo".

well, that's what i do. i treat a chica like gold, we have fun, i make her laugh and feel comfortable. i'm just cool.

chicas have a radar and just know when you're a walking boner.

of course ya got to give off the signals to her that you're interested in more.

hand holding, soft touches, sweet words, etc.

i personally don't want to rush a non-pro into bed. i don't like regrets, bad feelings, etc, etc.

i've learned, many times over, these latinas will practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] ya when they're ready.

they go nuts when you're cool and non-aggressive, but loving (ya can't act like their brother).

they're soooooo used to their local boys who are muy aggressive.

of course this technique can take time, depending on the chica.

is waiting a few dates really that big of a deal?

if you're on a short visit, and don't return often, well this non-aggressive approach ain't for you.

fortunately for me, i'm in either colombia or brazil quite often, and this approach works fantastically.

the beauty is, and it's obvious, unlike senor runner up, i do like to partake with the pros.

when you're getting to know the non-pros, but just haven't gotten to that intimate level yet, of course you can run and have fun with the pros.

easy easy, big deal!

what's the difference really? these so called non-pro chicas that will sex ya after meeting them in a bar for a few hours, well, hello, they're screwing lots of other dudes too.

you ain't the only cool cat in town amigo.

not my type of non-pro.

i'd rather hang with the pro-chica and meet cool, loving, not so "easy" non-pros for the girl friend stuff.

hey, that's just me.

in my experience, being aggressive and rushing a non-pro chica to bed can cause drama and hard feelings.

i've done it, i can still do it if i want, but it ain't me. don't like it.

some of you cats may enjoy the "kill" of scoring a chica being aggressive and with booze / drugs, whatever, but it's not what i like.

i'm thanful that there are numerous avenues for pros to help blow off steam when needed.

i like non-pros for the romance and the fantastic gf love-making when it comes.

i like the pros for. well, we all know why hahaha.

good luck amigos.[/quote]ricker:

too funny. love the satiracal format.

i take it you don't subscribe to the rooshv method/philosophy.

all the best, schwmm

[quote=ricker]an old buddy of mine, when i was a young whippersnapper used to say to me "ricker, let the pussy come to you". "tranquilo".

well, that's what i do. i treat a chica like gold, we have fun, i make her laugh and feel comfortable. i'm just cool.

chicas have a radar and just know when you're a walking boner.

of course ya got to give off the signals to her that you're interested in more.

hand holding, soft touches, sweet words, etc.

i personally don't want to rush a non-pro into bed. i don't like regrets, bad feelings, etc, etc.

i've learned, many times over, these latinas will practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] ya when they're ready.

they go nuts when you're cool and non-aggressive, but loving[/quote]that is the best advice i've read in a long time and i realize i've been rushing things too much here in medellin (i've lost a lot of girls like that mainly because i didn't call them back)

the fact is that i don't mind spending time and more than 2-3 dates with a girl i like but i get frustrated when i'm paying them dinners all the time and don't get any action. however, it is in fact my fault. they never asked me for dinner or anything. i was just hungry at the wrong times.

i don't mind paying for stuff from time to time but when i pay for "expensive" (crepes y waffles style) dinners 5 times in a row without getting action, i get bad feelings about the situation.

what i will do from now on is follow your advice but also see my girls more in the afternoon or at nights after i've eaten.

i'm sure i'll feel much more relaxed that way.