Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Downandup;2752401]Much of ths is post covid turmoil and it's still going to be another year before the situation stabilises. I don't expect the bars to have a good high season as there won't be a great wave of visitors returning yet, many have to make their plans a year ahead and therefore covid weighed heavily as a risk so they might have abandoned their trip.

Then there are the girls who were looking for alternate work online during covid, I think that sites like Onlyfans have peaked in popularity this year and are now facing decline as people are able to travel. So as there's less money online then more will return to the bars. But not soon enough.

China is still under lockdown so you won't see their tourists and Indians are coming in to replace them. They won't feed the same amount of money into the city.

And finally, don't forget the global recession due to covid and the russian invasion of Ukraine, people are going to spend less and holidays are often the first luxury to go or else cut back on. But eventually the recession will drive more girls back to the bars as companies cut back and there's less work..[/QUOTE]The global recession has nothing to do with Russia-Ukraine. It has everything to do with governments and central banks printing money for years and increasing the debt whilst kicking the can down the road. The global recession is just commencing and it will be felt in Thailand as it will everywhere else. Tourist numbers will drop as farang won't have the money to travel. Less tourists means the price of pussy decreases. Just wait another year and these same girls pushing for 2 k ST will be lucky to get 1 k ST.

Certainly too many bars in Pattaya, contraction has to happen.

I'm in Samui now and yes the quality and quantity is low, but the girls that are here are so desperate I am getting whatever I want. There is an extreme lack of tourists here and the majority of Samui tourists aren't mongers anyways. I'm surprised these girls are here instead of Phuket. Yesterday I had a girl over for 3 hours for for 1 k ST and she was more attractive than any girl I bedded in two months I was in Pattaya. Today sampling a cute one I got down to 700 baht ST, we'll see how it goes.

Huge Beer Bar complex opened without much Fanfare at end of Walking Street.

Light system alone cost 20,000,000 baht.

Mind Boggling.

[QUOTE=Shukracharya;2752613]Of course those Indian mongers won't stay at park Hyatt bro when cheaper options are available all over. I have decent amount of money on me but still I won't pay huge bucks at park Hyatt.

And the serf race don't control anything. Marx's diagnosis of the problem is spot on in das capital but his solutions are BS. Even in communist countries the workers don't control anything. It's always the elites running the show who control everything be it communism or capitalism. So the future serf race won't be controlling nothing but fighting over low paid jobs to feed themselves and maybe get enough money to monger around.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't pay the big bucks either when I stay there or anywhere else decent. I accumulate 1 M+ hotel points, 700 K+airline miles, and 500 K credit card points per year off of client travel. Plus having lifetime top tier status gets me some pretty nice upgrades. The real issue is that the proletariat / plebs (who lets face it, many of which aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer) are very easily manipulated to turn against their own self-interest through nationalism, racism, religion, and a myriad of other "ism's."

While some of the Indian mongers might be pretty flush with cash, watching them try to negotiate down a beach road freelancer from the normal 1000 be is embarrassing and strikes me as loser cheap.

Last night did some rounds with another Pattaya vet. Pin Up, Sky Fall (where we both had been banned years ago), Fahrenheit, Sensations, Palace, and Sapphire. Simply put. Walking Street GoGo bars are still only 30% of what they were in 2019. Prices a bit higher, quality of girls much much lower. Newbies and those who don't frequent often, won't know any better. Those who are seasoned or come every year, will. Perhaps this is how it ends, unless there is an alien invasion. Especially, with all that's going on in the world with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, China, Taiwan, USA, North and South Korea, Japan etc. We already had Plague, War, Famine, in such a short time, and now just waiting on the final Horseman riding on the pale horse. Toast to new beginnings?

[QUOTE=ChimpoChinn;2752294]Chaturbate usually pops when when I watch Ayu Sakurai vids. Upon picking Thai Girls category all I see is Butt Ugly Thai Girls with Very tiny amount of viewers.

Then you see attractive Chinese Girls. Lots of viewers which must mean lots of money.

The good old Looks Matter when selling Sex.

Many of you see Girls making money hand over first. I just don't see it. I need more convincing.[/QUOTE]Have a look at gandamitch on chaturbate.

She is normally one very day, solo, or a twosome or 3 some, and is making $500-1000 per day based on token counts (each token earns her 5 c).

She also has instagram (MorenaMitch), and OFs to make money.

And yes, she and her friends are at most 6-7/10's, but she is making the money.

Hello guys,

I am an Indian travelling solo to Pattaya / Bangkok for a week. I have read through the forum and there is no clear price that's generally accepted. Thus is my first trip here so a bit confused. I am looking for the best looking spinners and my understanding is that I can score them in gogo's albeit at a bit higher price which I am not worried about. If some seniors can shed some light on accepted practices after covid would be helpful. My travel dates are 20th to 27th split between bkk / Pattaya. If anyone else is travelling in the same dates and want to connect drop me a pm.

[QUOTE=Kirahell2;2752814]Hello guys,

I am an Indian travelling solo to Pattaya / Bangkok for a week. I have read through the forum and there is no clear price that's generally accepted. Thus is my first trip here so a bit confused. I am looking for the best looking spinners and my understanding is that I can score them in gogo's albeit at a bit higher price which I am not worried about. If some seniors can shed some light on accepted practices after covid would be helpful. My travel dates are 20th to 27th split between bkk / Pattaya. If anyone else is travelling in the same dates and want to connect drop me a pm.[/QUOTE]Not a Senior but off of my latest experience a month ago.

Standard / observed prices in Pattaya:

Beach Road / Freelancers - 1000 Baht. Not the greatest quality but solid. Take back to your Hotel / Condo or pay for ST hotel 300 Bajt.

Soi 6 Bars. Much better quality and a huge quantity. 1000 Baht + 400 Baht barfine (which includes room upstairs) If you buy a drink and a lady drink to start add 200-300. If a girl quotes you a higher price above standard that you are not willing to pay. Just move on to the next. It is a target rich environment.

GoGo. Big variations. Anywhere from 2000-4000 for ST and LT is 2000+ more, all depending on quality of the girl (or what she thinks her quality is. Doesn't always line up), Barfines 1500 before 11-12, half after 12.

IMO Soi Six is your best value to hotness, and you can party a little if need be.

Observed Prices in BKK -.

BJ bars - 800 Baht.

Oily Massage - 2000-2700 Baht depending on place / length of session.

Freelancers - 1000-1500 Baht + ST hotel or your abode.

Gogo ST 2500-5000 Baht, LT is harder to come by. BF - 1000-1500 depending on time and place.

Word of advice. Don't try to negotiate down from standard prices with Soi 6 and Freelancers, sours any vibe and 95% of the time they will refuse. Oilys + BJ bars are non-negotiable. GoGo girls might give an outrageous price, be willing to walk away if you think it's too much. If they are really interested / want the business, they probably will come down some. When I have just accepted the reasonable / standard price, the night / session goes much better.

[QUOTE=Ehs183;2752844]Not a Senior but off of my latest experience a month ago.

Standard / observed prices in Pattaya:

Beach Road / Freelancers - 1000 Baht. Not the greatest quality but solid. Take back to your Hotel / Condo or pay for ST hotel 300 Bajt.

Soi 6 Bars. Much better quality and a huge quantity. 1000 Baht + 400 Baht barfine (which includes room upstairs) If you buy a drink and a lady drink to start add 200-300. If a girl quotes you a higher price above standard that you are not willing to pay. Just move on to the next. It is a target rich environment.

GoGo. Big variations. Anywhere from 2000-4000 for ST and LT is 2000+ more, all depending on quality of the girl (or what she thinks her quality is. Doesn't always line up), Barfines 1500 before 11-12, half after 12.

IMO Soi Six is your best value to hotness, and you can party a little if need be.

Observed Prices in BKK -.

BJ bars - 800 Baht.

Oily Massage - 2000-2700 Baht depending on place / length of session.

Freelancers - 1000-1500 Baht + ST hotel or your abode.

Gogo ST 2500-5000 Baht, LT is harder to come by. BF - 1000-1500 depending on time and place.

Word of advice. Don't try to negotiate down from standard prices with Soi 6 and Freelancers, sours any vibe and 95% of the time they will refuse. Oilys + BJ bars are non-negotiable. GoGo girls might give an outrageous price, be willing to walk away if you think it's too much. If they are really interested / want the business, they probably will come down some. When I have just accepted the reasonable / standard price, the night / session goes much better.[/QUOTE]Hold your Arabian Horses.

Rainbow 4 Nana Plaza Superstar still at 3,000 baht. I inquired not more than a month ago.

Schlubs at Rainbow 4 still at, I really don't know. They don't get customers.

I'm not saying Schlubs are good or bad,. Looks Matters.

Bro that's very cool. You are basically having.

A blast with all those accumulated points. I never even bother to check what points I have. Call it my ignorance or laziness but I usually avoid the credit card salesmans like the plague. Maybe I should look up and read about all that too.

As for Indians over negotiating, being cheap or 5-6 of them wanting to smash just one girl and play out their gang rape fantasies, well yeah that's true. I won't deny that. That's a characteristic of say 90-99% of all indians.

And bro uniting on race, nationalism, religion is what keeps human being sane. Otherwise humans dwell into insanity. Sure all the above identities have led to numerous wars but it also refined and shaped culture, civilisation which produced amazing philosophies, art, paintings, literary works. Problem is humans after the 60-70's feminism and hippie movement think war is some sort of evil and that everyone has to live no matter what.

They not want to control behaviour of humans but also wish to control nature. E. g. They have releasedgenetically modified mosquitoes to eliminate malaria dengu etc. Post hippie feminism era humans want to play god / nature themselves. I say nature gives and nature takes. We as humans can only strive to live our best trying to conquer nature is a futile attempt. All these diseases have forced people for centuries to live in a eco friendly way but now certain elites wish to play god and only god knows what chain reaction would this lead to maybe newer diseases or overpopulation eventually leading to war LOL. War is inevitable in the end. We as human will always fight for the finite resources. Question only is do we want to go to war based on race, religion, nationalism or do we fight simply around economic interests or vague ideas of humanity? I think the people fighting on the identity of race, religion nationalism will always win over those fighting for economic interests or vague ideas of humanity, pacifism. Just take a look at the islamic world, all those guys are migrating all over the world and they don't give up on their faith. Europe America and rest of the western world will learn the hard way the lessons about maintaing ideas of race, nationality and religion just like we in India learnt it the hard way over 700 -1000 years of brutality. We still managed to retain atleast our religious identity in the face of continuous attacks and now have a national identity too. Race / ethnic identity were lost and is being completely destroyed with the advancement of GDP, growth, Modern economic theory in India. However it's almost impossible to get rid of religious and national identity here. People will just not put up with all the atheist, hippie, Marxist ideology here. So that's a good characteristic of Indians.

[QUOTE=Ehs183;2752719]Well, I don't pay the big bucks either when I stay there or anywhere else decent. I accumulate 1 M+ hotel points, 700 K+airline miles, and 500 K credit card points per year off of client travel. Plus having lifetime top tier status gets me some pretty nice upgrades. The real issue is that the proletariat / plebs (who lets face it, many of which aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer) are very easily manipulated to turn against their own self-interest through nationalism, racism, religion, and a myriad of other "ism's."

While some of the Indian mongers might be pretty flush with cash, watching them try to negotiate down a beach road freelancer from the normal 1000 be is embarrassing and strikes me as loser cheap.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jacobz;2751771]... On a similar note as above, massage parlors too where a couple can go and get a proper massage. My guess is, it should be a proper professional massage parlor without the "extra services" otherwise the ones with the extra services would have guys ogling and drooling over any lady customer. Any particular Area or SOI for such parlors??[/QUOTE]On my first trip to Thailand I remember going with a pretty, young girl at a soapy massage parlour called Cristins in Phuket. She was a sweetheart so I went with her several times when the massage parlour closed. On one occasion she told me that a western couple had been with her earlier in the day and she was the meat in the sandwich!

So my recommendation for Pattaya is to try one of the soapies, I. E Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2. When you're sitting in front of the fishbowl there's usually a mamasan or papasan lingering so tell them what you're looking for and they'll be able to tell you which girls will go with a couple, or even engage in a threesome. If you've never done a soapy, it's a great experience and I'm sure even more fun with an extra person.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2752720]Last night did some rounds with another Pattaya vet. Pin Up, Sky Fall (where we both had been banned years ago)[/QUOTE]ElMexicant, I am curious about both of you being banned whether banned separately or at the same time. What did you do to get banned? I've never seen anybody get banned before. Whatever the cause I hope you had a good time.

I'll be in Pattaya in November and would like to mix things up a bit from the usual golden triangle of Tree Town, LK Metro and soi 6. I've heard about a place called 'the Dark Side' which sounds interesting but can find little info on the forum. Has anyone been?

On another forum there is more information on the Dark Side.

It's just the part of Pattaya that doesn't have as many lights as the central area.

There are two places on that side I want to try.

Thanks a lot for summarizing this very practical information. Its rare to find such informative post now a days.

How is the quantity of freelancers on beach road in Pattaya and on sukumvit road in Bangkok? 50% of pre covid days or just 20%?

[QUOTE=Ehs183;2752844]Not a Senior but off of my latest experience a month ago.

Standard / observed prices in Pattaya:

Beach Road / Freelancers - 1000 Baht. Not the greatest quality but solid. Take back to your Hotel / Condo or pay for ST hotel 300 Bajt.

Soi 6 Bars. Much better quality and a huge quantity. 1000 Baht + 400 Baht barfine (which includes room upstairs) If you buy a drink and a lady drink to start add 200-300. If a girl quotes you a higher price above standard that you are not willing to pay. Just move on to the next. It is a target rich environment.

GoGo. Big variations. Anywhere from 2000-4000 for ST and LT is 2000+ more, all depending on quality of the girl (or what she thinks her quality is. Doesn't always line up), Barfines 1500 before 11-12, half after 12.

IMO Soi Six is your best value to hotness, and you can party a little if need be.

Observed Prices in BKK -.

BJ bars - 800 Baht.

Oily Massage - 2000-2700 Baht depending on place / length of session.

Freelancers - 1000-1500 Baht + ST hotel or your abode.

Gogo ST 2500-5000 Baht, LT is harder to come by. BF - 1000-1500 depending on time and place.

Word of advice. Don't try to negotiate down from standard prices with Soi 6 and Freelancers, sours any vibe and 95% of the time they will refuse. Oilys + BJ bars are non-negotiable. GoGo girls might give an outrageous price, be willing to walk away if you think it's too much. If they are really interested / want the business, they probably will come down some. When I have just accepted the reasonable / standard price, the night / session goes much better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2752891]I'll be in Pattaya in November and would like to mix things up a bit from the usual golden triangle of Tree Town, LK Metro and soi 6. I've heard about a place called 'the Dark Side' which sounds interesting but can find little info on the forum. Has anyone been?[/QUOTE]The "Darkside" is merely the area east of Sukhumvit Road. It's more thinly populated, but there are a lot of foreigners living there due to lower prices. Plenty of smaller bars spread out there, typically with 5 to 10 ladies, with the same regular customers. The typical customer has retired, has a Thai wife, but she is older and doesn't want to fuck much, if at all, and is not too interested in her husband. So the guy goes to the local bar to play with a bargirl and maybe get a BJ or go ST. The Thai ladies typically live with their Thai man somewhere near the bar.