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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1919333]Never have I accused another member of overpaying and I encourage you to dig up that post because it does not exist. That's the last thing I would do. I hate people complaining about the price. Obviously it's a sensitive issue for you to see another member that hates the price police. Sorry if you have a budget problem. Take care and I hope your financial situation improves. Take care.[/QUOTE]We all hate the price police, when someone don't pay thousands more than the norm like you, you call them cheap charlie, bragging all day and hitting back on people's sincere advice on the forum will only discourage people from participating in this information exchange. This forum is way too lenient on belligerent posters. I don't think you would last too long on other big forums. Just a sincere advice. I usually do not respond to ignorance, but your posts really scratch a few my nerves.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1918993]I can't believe my post about Sephan Kwai has spawned so many spin off topics about nothing. I could care less about what girls make a 7/11 and whether a Thai guy or foreigner can feel safe in each other's stomping grounds. Post some reports or useful Intel on mongering in BKK. Enough already![/QUOTE]Bkkdog, I generally agree with your impression of things, but we reallly don't need a self-appointed post topic monitor here. How about we all post what we damn well please, let the real forum moderators sort out what fits and what does not fit and the rest of us choose which posts we care to read and comment on among the ones that make the cut?
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[QUOTE=ShinShin;1919356]We all hate the price police, when someone don't pay thousands more than the norm like you, you call them cheap charlie, bragging all day and hitting back on people's sincere advice on the forum will only discourage people from participating in this information exchange. This forum is way too lenient on belligerent posters. I don't think you would last too long on other big forums. Just a sincere advice. I usually do not respond to ignorance, but your posts really scratch a few my nerves.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. This forum should be for the exchange of information, not for sociopathic "acting out."
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1919333]Never have I accused another member of overpaying and I encourage you to dig up that post because it does not exist. That's the last thing I would do. I hate people complaining about the price. Obviously it's a sensitive issue for you to see another member that hates the price police. Sorry if you have a budget problem. Take care and I hope your financial situation improves. Take care.[/QUOTE]I think you got to be kidding yourself? Yes you do not complaint about another member overpaying but the fact is you resent that others complaint / belittle you about overpaying! I've not ever or since criticized you for your experience posted although it is clear others who have read your post think so and if anyone has become sensitive to the criticism is you. You claim I'm obviously sensitive to the issue. Please show me a post I've made recently recently that I have taken issue with you or anyone regarding being a price police. I've made it very cleared that I have no issue to anyone over or under paying. I've made it very cleared that no matter how much or often people come here they pay their dues no matter how experience they are? I've overpaid many times regardless of living here when I have a unique situation that maybe comes a few times in a person life and I've underpay or pay what everyone else does too. As for the fact you don't know me yet make criticism like a " budget problem / financial situation improves " as if you do not have a ceiling. Everyone including you and me have a ceiling and there is not one person that have come and gone on this board wouldn't mind having a improve financial situation Anyone who claims or tries to make themselves out as if they have no budget or ceiling is lying. I've lived here for a long time been there and done that and what comes around goes around and each time I take the ride again because I might learn something and if over or underpaying is the price I pay it.
I respond and gave my 2 cents in general regarding what a person make at 7/11, it was not a direct attack on you and where in the world how I got drag in by you as noted providing reports etc. And being in the group of people who are price police I have no idea. Now as for you. Please provide me with a direct report where I have criticized directly, anyone and your supporting buddies Kumbu that I am part of this group? And if you do please provide direct / exact wording and not some generalization and " you thought I meant stuff ". Otherwise as I said before " Enjoy " whether you over or under pay! So in the end, nothing you say is going to change anything this board is what it is so get over it. You want to post post your comments and you get what you get in responses if you are too sensitive and need to attack in return then you have lost! Here is a tip, use ignore or just ignore it as if you didn't hear it. Time to man up!
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Make it happen Kumbu!
[QUOTE=Kumbu;1919338]Not soon enough, my friend, not fucking soon enough![/QUOTE]That's a bummer, I actually enjoy reading your experience on the forum then ISG member attacking each other!
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[QUOTE=AsianLust;1919304]It's not a cheap place for P4P. But it's top quality. Girls are well trained for fucking, sucking and rimming. I'd been there before on my last trip in Dec. 15 and had a great time with Pino. This time I called ahead since I had some work to take care of in the late afternoon, and made an appt with Pino for 11 am. Fresh pussy in the morning.
Pino is taller than most Thai girls, and taller than me. She has a great smile, brownish / reddish long hair. Her body is a solid 8. 5+ (small boobs, but I'm an ass aficionado) Long tan brown legs leading up to her perfectly shaped ass / pussy. I'll skip the bath (she cleaned me and my asshole very well). Pino has a small patch of hair like most girls who cater to the Japanese crowd. Kinda sexy too. She made sure I was laying down on the mat for the nuru part and went to work.
I do enjoy soapies, the teasing and rubbing and the no condom rubbing of her slits on my cock. I thing she's getting wet. Or it's the high quality gel.
She asked me to flip over face down, time for the best rim job I've ever had. I mentioned MITU trains their girls, this is how I knew. OMG she rimmed me for a solid 15 minutes without coming up for air. Circles, taps, deeper plunges and blowing wind into my ass. I was so hard she grabbed my cock and started tugging on it while I was still face down. I was close to blowing my load from this alone. She asked me to get up and rinse off for the next part. Fucking.
I took her on the bed and went to town. Mish, CG, RCG, K9, I was pounding her hard, but she took it like a champ. I was playing with her asshole, since she played with mine, no anal though. I made it deep enough to a knuckle but that was it. I was having a hard time reaching maximum potential with the condom on, so I pulled it off and had her give me a BBBJ. She's good at that too. Soon enough I blew my load in her mouth and felt great. She's not a swallower, but she seemed happy enough to have my load in her mouth for a bit.
One thing I like is you get as many pops as you can go. We had 30 minutes left. We talked a bit while I recharged, showing each other pictures, talked about food and traveling around Asia. (to my surprise she'd done a good bit of traveling around Asia). I recharged and was ready for round 2. BBBJ then CG. I was having a hard time and asked her to rim me for the rest of the time, she was that good. She's a trooper when it comes to licking the pooper. Another 15 minutes of this while she was furiously stroking me, I blew #2 on the bed. She smiled and she was happy I was happy. We showered up again (cleanliness is important) and she walked me downstairs hand in hand. Asked me if I enjoyed her and would I come back. Um yes, yes I will.
Looks 8.5-9.
Service 9.5.
Repeatability $$.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a experience well worth the money. Fantastic report. I will have to check it out.
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USA as a comparison
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1919211]LOL I find it quite ironic that those who perpetuate comments of money regarding the punting preferences of others also seem to want end comments of money regarding relative values. ADHD indeed!
I think you can somewhat monetarily compare the following: 1) a Thai go-go girl to a higher end strip club performer in the USA where making $500-$1000 per night is possible 2) a BKK streetwalker / BG lady to your average $200 per hour USA Backpage escort 3) a Thai 7/11 worker to a USA minimum wage employee making $60 per day.
SL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your info about the situation in USA. Gives more room for comparison.
If you take the 60 $ per day minimum wage you get a value per month quite alike the Dutch situation.
I looked up the GDP for USA, being 55.000 $. With the dollar around 1. 10 to the euro, that figure is comparable to the Dutch situation.
So I just wonder whether the average American would be ready to give 400 to 500 $ for a ST.
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[QUOTE=AsianLust;1919304]It's not a cheap place for P4P. But it's top quality. Girls are well trained for fucking, sucking and rimming. I'd been there before on my last trip in Dec. 15 and had a great time with Pino. This time I called ahead since I had some work to take care of in the late afternoon, and made an appt with Pino for 11 am. Fresh pussy in the morning.
Pino is taller than most Thai girls, and taller than me. She has a great smile, brownish / reddish long hair. Her body is a solid 8. 5+ (small boobs, but I'm an ass aficionado) Long tan brown legs leading up to her perfectly shaped ass / pussy. I'll skip the bath (she cleaned me and my asshole very well). Pino has a small patch of hair like most girls who cater to the Japanese crowd. Kinda sexy too. She made sure I was laying down on the mat for the nuru part and went to work.
I do enjoy soapies, the teasing and rubbing and the no condom rubbing of her slits on my cock. I thing she's getting wet. Or it's the high quality gel.
She asked me to flip over face down, time for the best rim job I've ever had. I mentioned MITU trains their girls, this is how I knew. OMG she rimmed me for a solid 15 minutes without coming up for air. Circles, taps, deeper plunges and blowing wind into my ass. I was so hard she grabbed my cock and started tugging on it while I was still face down. I was close to blowing my load from this alone. She asked me to get up and rinse off for the next part. Fucking.
I took her on the bed and went to town. Mish, CG, RCG, K9, I was pounding her hard, but she took it like a champ. I was playing with her asshole, since she played with mine, no anal though. I made it deep enough to a knuckle but that was it. I was having a hard time reaching maximum potential with the condom on, so I pulled it off and had her give me a BBBJ. She's good at that too. Soon enough I blew my load in her mouth and felt great. She's not a swallower, but she seemed happy enough to have my load in her mouth for a bit.
One thing I like is you get as many pops as you can go. We had 30 minutes left. We talked a bit while I recharged, showing each other pictures, talked about food and traveling around Asia. (to my surprise she'd done a good bit of traveling around Asia). I recharged and was ready for round 2. BBBJ then CG. I was having a hard time and asked her to rim me for the rest of the time, she was that good. She's a trooper when it comes to licking the pooper. Another 15 minutes of this while she was furiously stroking me, I blew #2 on the bed. She smiled and she was happy I was happy. We showered up again (cleanliness is important) and she walked me downstairs hand in hand. Asked me if I enjoyed her and would I come back. Um yes, yes I will.
Looks 8.5-9.
Service 9.5.
Repeatability $$.[/QUOTE]Nice report, AL- will have to check out Mitu- right around the corner from my hotel.
Friendly.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1919368]Bkkdog, I generally agree with your impression of things, but we reallly don't need a self-appointed post topic monitor here. How about we all post what we damn well please, let the real forum moderators sort out what fits and what does not fit and the rest of us choose which posts we care to read and comment on among the ones that make the cut?[/QUOTE]He posts what he "damn well pleases" which includes criticism of highly off topic posts. We do have a General Thread, probably the best place for stuff not at all related to Bangkok Mongering. Sometimes criticism is somewhat deserved.
I am not too keen for Bangkok Thread to be cluttered with stuff not relevant to sex. It's true we probably don't have enough threads other not related to sex. It's also a pity we are not heavily moderated to send junk to the correct junk thread.
Meanwhile being about to return to Bangkok, I checked the state of Crazy House with my favorite waitress. She assures me there is no crackdown as yet and full nudity remains as before. CH is always informed before any visit by authorities anyway. I will be checking about my favorite bargirls being around soon too. If my favourites are away, it won't be the same.
Maybe another visit to Saphan Kwai T-DET or others soon too.
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[QUOTE=Berrys66;1919208]Thais would go to Chaopaya 1 or 2 massage where the women are stunning and the prices very high. Or out of town joints where the prices are super low.[/QUOTE]I used to go there. ChaoPraya 2 was my favorite before Thaksin came to power. Used to have a lot of girls and even some good body girls in the "Tora" body slide category. However declined badly after clean outs of Myanmar girls and girls in another questionable category. The numbers of pretty girls dropped away.
Have not called in recently.
J-One was always a risky club for rip off papa-sans if you got the wrong one. I had to make sure my "papa-san" was working who gave me the correct prices.
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Well said
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1916885]Excellent post![/QUOTE]Well said.
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Dam straight!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919623]He posts what he "damn well pleases" which includes criticism of highly off topic posts. We do have a General Thread, probably the best place for stuff not at all related to Bangkok Mongering. Sometimes criticism is somewhat deserved.
I am not too keen for Bangkok Thread to be cluttered with stuff not relevant to sex. It's true we probably don't have enough threads other not related to sex. It's also a pity we are not heavily moderated to send junk to the correct junk thread.
Meanwhile being about to return to Bangkok, I checked the state of Crazy House with my favorite waitress. She assures me there is no crackdown as yet and full nudity remains as before. CH is always informed before any visit by authorities anyway. I will be checking about my favorite bargirls being around soon too. If my favourites are away, it won't be the same.
Maybe another visit to Saphan Kwai T-DET or others soon too.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have always been a person who says exactly what I think. Anyways, let's get back to some reports and stop bickering over who paid what, whose getting ripped off and so on.
I popped into Suzie Wongs recently and I must say, I'm still loving the vibe in there. They still go topless when they can and I love the lesbian shows. There is a really nice Thai blonde bombshell with one of the best rear ends in the business working there who takes care of me every time. I love it because there is no coyote bullshit and the girls are really down to earth. 2,500 LT plus the 600 Baht bar fine. I always tip her 1,500-2,000 because her performance is stellar so she always ends up with 4-5 K from me for LT. It's nice to have some regulars around the city so you don't need to experiment and take chances with other girls. Sometimes I just like to chill. Another member recently commented or insinuated that my experiences were fake or over embellished because I don't have too many bad experiences in my reports.
My answer to this and to others who continuously have these bad experiences is this. Treating the girls right and speaking some Thai, really goes a long way. If you treat the girls like a piece of meat, they will treat you like just a bull shit customer and won't care whether you are happy or not. Yes these ladies are working girls but they have feelings too. Treat them right and it will come back to you ten fold. There was a poster, whose name was Paul. Haven't heard from him in a while but he would post with the same style as Kumu. He was the member who posted about the orgies with the Cherry girls. Most of the seniors will remember his posts. Anyways, he always received a lot of mileage from the girls because of this very reason of treating them well and with respect. Has anyone here ever gotten a freebie from a working girl? If you haven't, think twice about how you treat them and talk to them. Many of us seniors have received freebies in return for the respect we show the ladies. Think about it and happy mongering!
P.S. Thanks Kumu for your PM.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1918515]Bkkdog is telling it like it is.
WE (Go Go/Soapy/G-Club guys) ARE NOT BEING SCAMMED. We know what we are doing. We are having a great time with hot little BKK girls all over town.
[/QUOTE]I was in BKK last week for a non-mongering trip but I still managed to get laid once and get a gold standard BJ. Did I "overpay"? YES, HELL YEAH I DID. I was staying at Sathon-Pipat, a short walk from Patpong, and I had a very limited window to partake in our hobby.
So on one night I went to Star of Light (after ages) to get an old fashioned BJ. The selection was scarce with just 7 girls hanging outside the bar. Most were fuglies, and I almost turned away. And then a cute slim decent looking chick stepped out from the bar. Could be a 7 on look at best. I pointed at her and took her right back inside. Now those who know this place will agree that this is the cheapest dive in town for a BJ. All included 700 b. Drinks and tips are completely optional. Pum proceeded to give me a great BJ as I sat there with a drink and a cigarette. She was well trained as I could tell, great skills up and down the shaft, lots of sloppy ball sucking and some fantastic short rapid licks on the head. Good deep throat skills as well. I enjoyed banging her cheeks for a while and she wanted more of it. Lasted for a good 25 minutes before I finally blew my load in her mouth. She took it all in, but pulled out a couple of tissues and spit it out. I pulled up my shorts and handed her a 1000 b note and walked out. She came after me with the 200 b change. I smiled and told her to keep it. She was thrilled and asked me if I would come back again. I said maybe I would, but I never did. Tragic!
On another night I went to Electric Blue, an old favorite of mine from yester-years. The place has really gone downhill from what I remember but it still had around 20 girls dancing on stage when I entered around 10:30 pm. Few customers on a weekday so the girls were glad to see me, I guess. 170 b for a beer is steep, but THAT IS THE CURRENT PRICE. PAY IT AND ENJOY OR GO HOME AND WAIL OVER IT. So I settled in with the drink and almost instantly I was surrounded by 5 girls and 2 mamasans. All of them wanted drinks. I fought off the ones I had no intention of talking to and retained 2 girls. #77 and #99. I could also see #56 on stage who was smiling and showed a lot of promise. Not bad. All three girls would be 7. 5 on looks, 8 on body. I chatted up with the two girls I had retained and both very friendly and very willing. With no promises of an LD they were both kissing me and rubbing my cock. And the one dancing on stage was making lewd gestures to me. Hell, what a situation! Out of the two girls I decide to retain #77 as somehow the chemistry worked better. So I politely asked #99 to leave us. No pressure, she left without any drama. A mamasan tried to strong-arm me into buying #99 a drink, but I did not relent. Instead I tucked a 50 b note into her bra. She walked away happy. By now the dance routine was over, so #56 came down to say Hello,. But it was too late for her. I was already into #77. So I simply said "next time maybe" to her and turned my attention to #77. Soon the mechanics were worked out. 1000 b BF + 2500 b ST. I finished my drink, paid the bill and walked out with the girl onto Surawong and headed to Talai Suites, a tiny little ST hotel just after the Japanese Sushi joint Shakariki 432.500 b for the room for 2 hours. I had a wonderful time with the young Non. I will leave out the details, but I will say that we stayed in that room for 2. 5 hours and I had two pops with lots of BBBJ thrown in. I wish I had more time and I could LT this girl. When we were done I gave her a tip of 200 b and walked her back to her bar and then made my way back to my place.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1919687]My answer to this and to others who continuously have these bad experiences is this. Treating the girls right and speaking some Thai, really goes a long way. If you treat the girls like a piece of meat, they will treat you like just a bull shit customer and won't care whether you are happy or not. Yes these ladies are working girls but they have feelings too. Treat them right and it will come back to you ten fold. There was a poster, whose name was Paul. Haven't heard from him in a while but he would post with the same style as Kumu. He was the member who posted about the orgies with the Cherry girls. Most of the seniors will remember his posts. Anyways, he always received a lot of mileage from the girls because of this very reason of treating them well and with respect. Has anyone here ever gotten a freebie from a working girl? If you haven't, think twice about how you treat them and talk to them. Many of us seniors have received freebies in return for the respect we show the ladies. Think about it and happy mongering![/QUOTE]Speaking Thai and treating the girls well, joking and having fun does go a long way. Personally I never tip above the agreed rate no matter how good the service is, but I seem to have no problem with repeats should the gal float my boat. And I've been at it for 16 plus years.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1919687]My answer to this and to others who continuously have these bad experiences is this. Treating the girls right and speaking some Thai, really goes a long way. If you treat the girls like a piece of meat, they will treat you like just a bull shit customer and won't care whether you are happy or not. Yes these ladies are working girls but they have feelings too. Treat them right and it will come back to you ten fold. There was a poster, whose name was Paul. Haven't heard from him in a while but he would post with the same style as Kumu. He was the member who posted about the orgies with the Cherry girls. Most of the seniors will remember his posts. Anyways, he always received a lot of mileage from the girls because of this very reason of treating them well and with respect.[/QUOTE]Paul is a good guy with good game. The reason he no longer posts is:
[QUOTE]Once upon a time the point of this forum was to share mongering experiences around the world, to pass on useful information and answer other mongers questions. That no longer seems to be the case. Now most posts seem to be arguing about tipping, how too many people overpay and ruin the market, that the quality of the girls has declined, that Bangkok sucks, or how great the girls are at the shop that hired you to promote it; oh and to claim a girl who got a good recommendation in a report is not worth seeing so you can discourage others from booking her because you found she was indeed very good..[/QUOTE]Would be nice if people could refrain from price-shaming, but then again "thus it has always been".
[QUOTE=Goatscrot]Speaking Thai and treating the girls well, joking and having fun does go a long way. [/QUOTE]Can I have an Amen for that! I still see a few stellar girls that have transitioned out of the business because of this approach.
Randy "Murican.