Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2754450]...

I haven't frequented an FKK since pre-Covid, but judging by the commentary online they've gone downhill since based on rates and quality of women. In addition, Germany this time of year is unappealling due to the cold weather and the inflated hotel prices due to the energy crisis and inflation. Germany shouldn't be a consideration for a monger right now given these things IMO.[/QUOTE]Yes, the FKKs are not as good as they were pre-Covid, but nothing is. I was there for a 2-week mongering trip split between August and September. The weather was not an issue at all. Sometimes it is warm and sometimes it is not. One just need to dress up accordingly. Besides, when you get to an FKK, it does not matter how you are dressed. You don't need any clothes once you are inside. The same with the quality of the women, a bit down but not too bad. I had no problem finding decent companions, eventhough i am a sucker for eye candy.

Hotels were more expensive but not outrageous. It's the same phenomenon everywhere. Inflation and Covid have wreaked havoc with prices.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2754505]You may truly think that mongering in the US is somehow comparable to Pattaya, but I have an excess of cheap pussy at far lower prices than you quote, and I overpay.[/QUOTE]The problem with these analyses is that they negate that the person is going on a vacation and assume they just want to stick their dick into some pussy. No doubt that if you only want a hole to stick it in then it would be much cheaper, all expenses considered, to find one where you live. But if the person is going on vacation for a beach, party, tours, relax, see new shit, then they are not worried about staying home and fucking local chicks to save money.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2754516]...
Walking around, holding hands, with a 19 year old village girl, thinking you are in love and everything is rosy with world is priceless. Same like being old as dirt and going to a night club with loud Thai techno music you don't recognize, almost seizuring from the lasers, but you still are a Rockstar. Same just like the illusion of being a millionaire when you are only spending 2,000 USD in 2 weeks is also priceless. This is what Pattaya offers. These are how lifetime memories are made. Let us not forget, that regret because naivety is what makes it all memorable. The escape from everyday life has no price.

Everybody knows that Soi 6, you need to walk up and down 6 times, not 5, to spot 9's and 10's. They will magically appear. Thats' why it's called Soi 6, not Soi 5.[/QUOTE]I could not agree with you more. I have been going to Pattaya every year since 2003, and I have no intention of changing a thing. All because of the comments in your post above. In fact, I am trying to find a solution for the Covid years when I couldn't go. Obvious solution, go twice a year.

Not much BBFS opportunities in USA. As long as BBFS is available. I will go to Pattaya. Even Tijuana is 98% condom required. Plus I don't like American women anyway. Even if they are 10's. I'll sit my fat ass in Cattle class for the 22 hrs to snuggle with an 87 pounder Thai lady any day.

Yeah, I have to side with Pro Pattaya on this one. USA sex is dead and non existent. At least for me. I would be Happy to pay $200 per session but it is not available for me.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2754565]Not much BBFS opportunities in USA. As long as BBFS is available. I will go to Pattaya. Even Tijuana is 98% condom required. Plus I don't like American women anyway. Even if they are 10's. I'll sit my fat ass in Cattle class for the 22 hrs to snuggle with an 87 pounder Thai lady any day.

Yeah, I have to side with Pro Pattaya on this one. USA sex is dead and non existent. At least for me. I would be Happy to pay $200 per session but it is not available for me.[/QUOTE]You'll be happy, in Pattaya it's 100% BBFS. I just come back from Pattaya, and I confirmed I practiced only BBFS everyday during 2 weeks! Thai ladies don't use condoms anymore.

Well Gilolo,

I got about 75% BBFS. But there were some ladies who said No. So I said no too. But yeah, Pattaya is decent for my taste.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2754195]
PayFotIt's report was interesting, its great to see people still having a good time rather than everyone being so jaded by the place too. In saying that I went into High Rollers, and there is not a single 8 there, let alone 9's or 10's. If you can find a 9 or 10 in that place then Thailand is going to be a goldmine for you with all the cheap sex still on offer with single mothers whose bodies have been ravaged by baby damage, shitty diets and excessive alcohol consumption. By Thai standards of the past, the lineup at High Rollers would not even get a mention its beer bar level. Soi Pothole is a talent wasteland at the moment I am sorry to say.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you found my report interesting but I really cannot agree about High Rollers. I've spent years in FKKs and Spain and see my recent detailed report on clubs in Dubai. I'm picky. I flew back to Europe and see my report in Madrid where I went from club to club looking for a good looking girl, only to find one 7/8 on my whole evening. I spent more than it would have cost me to have 10 girls in High Rollers just in cabs looking for a stunner! So I'm not easily pleased and as I reported, Fom, in High Rollers. What a body. Pretty face (maybe 8) but the body 10, service at least a 9. There were others. I genuinely didn't feel the need to bar fine out of the agogos because of the girls in High Rollers. I don't say for a moment they were wall to wall good looking, but several were really pretty to me. And I repeat. I'm not so easily pleased. Spent an hour in between Pin Up / Palace / Fahrenheit then headed to Kink. And STILL ended up taking nobody until I got to High rollers. To each their own.

In response to the guy who said Soi 6 has changed a lot since pre covid, sorry. I really don't agree. Whilst bars have closed, its same old same old. Not sure you need 5 walk alongs Soi 6 let alone 6 (to pick, but I think what I meant by no change is that there are still a lot of options.

Meanwhile as for the debate about value, to my mind (and I monger from London / Spain / German FKKs (been to around 30 of them for 10 years)/ Dubai / Azerbaijan / Turkey / Dom Republic / Hong Kong / Singapore / Thailand / Australia), there is simply no better value on the planet than in Thailand. FKKs are a fabulous model. A sunny afternoon in FKK Oase (near Frankfurt) when there are 50 naked girls all walking in high heels and make up around the swimming pool offering to rub in oil (is just incredible. But prices in FKKs are really poor now. 100/30 minutes (euros). 200/ hour for most girls in most of the clubs (in Hessen but not NRW where there are still girls doing 40 euros /30 minutes in one club. Acapulco Gold). It's crazy. You pay between 40-75 entry depending on the club for entry, robe and food. Then there is the price of the rooms with the ladies. In Pattaya you can take 3 girls ST upstairs in Soi 6,7,8, Pothole, Lenkee, Buakhao, Tree Town, LK, Jomtien, wherever, and same in BKK, for less than one hour in an FKK. Thailand is fabulous value for money.

[QUOTE=Ehs183;2754435]Then the average US based punter traveler is clueless, and has no idea how to extract value from credit cards, point travel, and elite status. This is not hard stuff. Apply for a credit card, spend 2-5 k on it, collect 60-100 miles or points. Use those points to travel for close to free to Asia / EU / wherever. In the last 30 months I have racked sign up bonuses amounting to 855 K of amex points, chase points, and airline miles. All for spending $$ on everyday expenses. (And still keeping a 827 FICO 8 score as of today).

A round trip economy class ticket from the US to South Asia will cost 55-70 K round trip in miles / points depending on the program. The EU will cost 45-60 K.

The reasonable average Joe making median wage can most likely get one-two overseas flights for punting trips for the taxes and fees portion by just strategically applying for credit cards and getting bonuses. They just need a FICO above 675 and be able to spend $1 K / month of normal spend on a credit card.[/QUOTE]I'm your average joe office drone and have been playing the credit card points game for a very long time. As a result, I've never paid for a long haul flight in my life. Even here, the flights to Samui are notoriously expensive but I used points to make the roundtrip. In sum, playing the credit card points game is easy, valuable and actually kind of fun. I even stayed at a really nice Hilton in BKK for a week early in this trip of mine for a week.

Unless your really rich and can afford to spend whatever you want in life, you should be playing the credit card points game.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2754635]Thailand is fabulous value for money.[/QUOTE]But the issue, at least for me, is that you have to be into Asian women, and I'm really not that much. Making it not worth it to me to fly all the way to Thailand (or anywhere else in Asia) to monger. One time in Pattaya I went 72 hours without fucking because I hadn't seen anybody I wanted. That was Pattaya. Ground zero for fucking in Thailand! So although I certainly acknowledge your value argument, it doesn't work for me because I'm just not attracted to most Asian women. From here on out I'll be sticking exclusively to the Americas and Europe for mongering (the latinas and the white girls float my boat). I must say though that one of the hottest girls I have ever been with in my entire life was found in Phuket. She was either Amerasian or Eurasian and looked like a Thai Jennifer Anniston (but with darker hair). Wow what a knockout! Mamasan knew she had a rare "white tiger" on her hands and charged accordingly. And I gladly paid what was asked for takeout (twice).

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2754426]I have to agree with this. If you're a Chad / Tyrone getting sex for free in your western country, then why are you a monger abroad?

Let's be honest, most punters are punters because they can't sniff an ass back home, so the only alternative is punting. I'm not ashamed to admit that's why I punt.

But if I was a Chad back home I wouldn't be basing where I travel to on where I can punt.[/QUOTE]I guess I am one of the jaded ones. Under 55 and a 2 X widower. 1st wife a fellow military member KIA, 2nd one cancer before 50. No children, a few female friends, just have decided that I am going to spend my last active 15-20 years making bank and enjoying life traveling, 88 different countries so far. Doing a little punting to keep sane and happy. Maybe when I am in my late 60's I will settle down again and make sure I die first this time around.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2754635]I'm glad you found my report interesting but I really cannot agree about High Rollers. I've spent years in FKKs and Spain and see my recent detailed report on clubs in Dubai. I'm picky. I flew back to Europe and see my report in Madrid where I went from club to club looking for a good looking girl, only to find one 7/8 on my whole evening. I spent more than it would have cost me to have 10 girls in High Rollers just in cabs looking for a stunner! So I'm not easily pleased and as I reported, Fom, in High Rollers. What a body. Pretty face (maybe 8) but the body 10, service at least a 9. There were others. I genuinely didn't feel the need to bar fine out of the agogos because of the girls in High Rollers. I don't say for a moment they were wall to wall good looking, but several were really pretty to me. And I repeat. I'm not so easily pleased. Spent an hour in between Pin Up / Palace / Fahrenheit then headed to Kink. And STILL ended up taking nobody until I got to High rollers. To each their own.

In response to the guy who said Soi 6 has changed a lot since pre covid, sorry. I really don't agree. Whilst bars have closed, its same old same old. Not sure you need 5 walk alongs Soi 6 let alone 6 (to pick, but I think what I meant by no change is that there are still a lot of options..[/QUOTE]Bravo, well said. Yes, Thailand isn't the goldmine for gorgeous cheap women (9-10's) any more. It's too wealthy a country now. But in reality I would rather have the naughty, perhaps a little MILFy 6-7 with a little baby damage who can suck a golfball through garden hose. There is very few places in the world that you can get that in the world while speaking primarily speaking English and feeling reasonably safe.

The key in Pattaya / BKK is that if you pick the wrong chick who turns out to be a bit of starfish / poor performer, it only costs you less than $50. Rather then the Russian roulette of EU escorts or even in the FKK's where a poor choice will cost you $200.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2754657]I'm your average joe office drone and have been playing the credit card points game for a very long time. As a result, I've never paid for a long haul flight in my life. Even here, the flights to Samui are notoriously expensive but I used points to make the roundtrip. In sum, playing the credit card points game is easy, valuable and actually kind of fun. I even stayed at a really nice Hilton in BKK for a week early in this trip of mine for a week.

Unless your really rich and can afford to spend whatever you want in life, you should be playing the credit card points game.[/QUOTE]You have the absolute right idea brother.

I have trip booked in March ORD-AUH-BKK Etihad business, with a return BKK-DEL-JFK Thai / Air India first class that cost me only 180 K amex points + $300 via the Air Canada program.

I extracted $11 K of of net value in 2021 and have already extracted $13 K of net value ISO far in 2022 from the credit card game. I have top tier Hilton, Marriott, and IHG status from my CC's. Which outside of the US actually gets you great perks / benefits.

I probably could spend what I wanted out of my pocket, but why. The whole game is value / arbitrage, whether pussy or travel.

My goal in life is to stick it to the Man, and sticking it to Bank / Credit Card issuers is the sweetest dish that could be served.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2754541]The problem with these analyses is that they negate that the person is going on a vacation and assume they just want to stick their dick into some pussy. No doubt that if you only want a hole to stick it in then it would be much cheaper, all expenses considered, to find one where you live. But if the person is going on vacation for a beach, party, tours, relax, see new shit, then they are not worried about staying home and fucking local chicks to save money.[/QUOTE]Actually, the analyses do include all of that. Pattaya is shit for beaches, partying, and tours. All of that can be had in much nicer places in Latin America, the Caribbean, Africa, hell even just going to Miami or Vegas.

But I digress, it's obvious that nostalgia and preference for tiny Asian women will cause many to simply ignore the realities in other places. And the reality is that the USA has thrown out much of the stigma of sex work and even some states like New York have literally said they will no longer prosecute prostitution. Combine with inflation and economic problems of women in the USA, the price of sex and entertainment in the USA, as well as other places in the world, has dropped significantly (and still dropping) thus surpassing Thailand in value once the travel expenses are factored in. If you venture over to some of the African forums like Kenya or Ecuador forums you will see the costs of girls are even half of the cost of Pattaya and there are plenty of bbfscim and sexual fantasy options in Africa and latin america.

And I know some of these guys refuse to acknowledge that I qualified my statements with the cost of plane tickets and the length of the visit, so it is whatever.

My whole statement was actually just in response to the one post where the guy was insinuating that the USA 2-week millionaires might be the ones who will save Pattaya because of the strength of the dollar. And I was just pointing out that there is a fat chance that Americans will be the ones pumping sums of money into Pattaya for all of the reasons I mentioned.

[QUOTE=TheGood;2754501]Guys,

I'm visiting thailand for first time and am mostly into MPs, will take Indies if clean, hygiene.

I'm planning to stay for 3 4 days in Thailand.

Kindly suggest on.

1. how many days should I spend in Bangkok and Pattaya where can get good looking, decent place to monger.

2. well known mps.

Any additional suggestions appreciated.

Pm is open.[/QUOTE]For a trip that short, and given your preference for parlours you are better off spending all 4 days in Bangkok. It just has more to chose from when it comes to MP's, and the average quality of the women in Bangkok MP's is well and above the average quality in Pattaya.

Pattaya is a different scene. Here its gogos, gentlemen's clubs, girly bars, beer bars and freelancers in clubs. There are MP's, but they are on average a notch below what Bangkok tends to offer for a newbie on a short trip.

[QUOTE=Vector313;2754693]Actually, the analyses do include all of that. Pattaya is shit for beaches, partying, and tours. All of that can be had in much nicer places in Latin America, the Caribbean, Africa, hell even just going to Miami or Vegas.

But I digress, it's obvious that nostalgia and preference for tiny Asian women will cause many to simply ignore the realities in other places. And the reality is that the USA has thrown out much of the stigma of sex work and even some states like New York have literally said they will no longer prosecute prostitution. Combine with inflation and economic problems of women in the USA, the price of sex and entertainment in the USA, as well as other places in the world, has dropped significantly (and still dropping) thus surpassing Thailand in value once the travel expenses are factored in. If you venture over to some of the African forums like Kenya or Ecuador forums you will see the costs of girls are even half of the cost of Pattaya and there are plenty of bbfscim and sexual fantasy options in Africa and latin america.

And I know some of these guys refuse to acknowledge that I qualified my statements with the cost of plane tickets and the length of the visit, so it is whatever.

My whole statement was actually just in response to the one post where the guy was insinuating that the USA 2-week millionaires might be the ones who will save Pattaya because of the strength of the dollar. And I was just pointing out that there is a fat chance that Americans will be the ones pumping sums of money into Pattaya for all of the reasons I mentioned.[/QUOTE]Americans and Thailand.

I could be wrong but we are not a big tourist demographic for Thailand in General, just too Darn far.