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Damn I'm Wasted!
My apologies. Was meant to be a PM and the damn thing won't go away when I tried to delete it. Senility sucks!
[QUOTE=Shockman;1928044]Hey Mr E:
How are ya?
You probably don't remember the nerdy Indian dude that accompanied Mr. Gogo in welcoming you to Sosua with a cold Presidente outside New Garden last year with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub as a backdrop!
I've been RTFFing the LOS and AC forum and did not realize that I'd rubbed shoulders with a veritable renaissance man and kindred spirit.
I'm planning to return to LOS as part of a two month mongering trip this winter and was hoping our paths might cross again. The bulk of my vacation will be in India and am wondering if you'd be interested in checking it out if you have not already.
Happy and safe mongering.
Cheers.
Shockman.[/QUOTE]555.
This forum serves up some laughs! Ha ha ha.
Yup, the recent joke was a diamond. And byes she laughed a lot after asking.
But after reading so many FRs she falls into the typical warnings signs like. I am the guy who messages, and I may get a smiley in return. But besides that she prefers I video chat so I guessed too much English is not her cup of tea. She videoed me from her village. Showed me her parents and her tiny house. Didn't ask me for anything except the house part which didn't go down well with some people.
You did wait for 20 years and I am sorry you lost something you. Ay have thought about all these years.
I was going through a marriage with a great girl but we over the years lack intimacy and in many reports I found many are looking for that intimacy than just boom boom.
That's where girls like this one come in. They are beautiful, she doesn't like DATY but sure likes to F.
In fact the first night we did what we had to and slept but next Morning we did it 4 times and it wasn't me asking for it. So I guess after many years found someone who wasn't just into. Me but was wanting to please.
She turned down the tip I wanted to give as I payed her minute she entered my room. Some would say she was showing her self to be diff.
Openly talked about her not so good experiences in Malaysia etc didn't try to hide what she is.
Told. Me she is lazy looking for a boyfriend but she's been dumped by a couple of times after being promised the stars.
I BFed her next day same thing just made me feel really nice over all. So I guess you can't put a value / price on that feeling.
Even now when she comes home from her bar she will video call and just chat in irritating English usually drunk and opens up but I just like looking at her.
Never have I had a video session of mutual. She just did what she had to till she came.
I don't know what I am looking for, its just a bus ride Which I am taking with all my senses about.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1927796]Thai girls are known to try on all sorts of things as a "joke" to test guys. She wants to guage how dumb or sensible you are.
You cannot write that you were considering it whether you joke or not. You need to self censor what you write.
I can remember coming to Thailand 25 years ago and being very "taken" by a Thai working girl. Wasn't thinking of buying her anything expensive, but was thinking she might become my girlfriend. Problem was she had many boyfriends. I was just one of the candidates. She trained me on how to give good DATY. I wasn't that expert at the start she claimed. Anyway she chose an American dude. Later turned out he had money but wanted to keep her like a house maid and spent all his time smoking weed. She realized she chose the wrong guy and returned to Thailand.
About 4 years ago I met up with her again. Now she said she definitely wanted me to be her BF. I had significantly improved in manners, and on the bed skills were now to her liking. The problem was, she had not improved, rather had gone downhill. Put on weight. No where near so cute. Bad smokers breath. She talked to much. Very repetative. I had lost interest in her. It was more than 20 years later.[/QUOTE]
How does it make a difference if someone is being grumpy. Can imagine the ones who follow this forum would cause there are so many like us making the same mistakes etc.
But what I would like to say, a lot of us are in it for the experience, I know a buddy who is a multi millionaire a thorough gentleman lives in Germany but loves the experience of this whole Thai girl says it's better than the sure shot FKK clubs.
I have found a decent Thai girl who I don't want to marry nor have her as my mistress, Shea just a nice girl who I find very pretty and am a total face-man, she has a nice petite body and is careful about it.
The attention is what many many of us crave and if you find a half decent person who can give you that it's worth even the many dollars many of us spend. To some this kind of. Money doesn't even make a difference but some aay you "spoiling" these girls and my answer why shouldn't you after all they are girls!
Also I doubt as someone put it that she was testing me and I shouldn't joke about it, I doubt it she asked me for a 1 million bhatt house and a 4 carat diamond when she was drunk and then laughed for 5 minutes. She can play me starring with smaller things.
But you are right one should wait and watch for at least 6 months, but chatting on this forum does put one at ease, as why I posted on this was I got this weird feeling of jealousy or anxiety when she wouldn't reply and that is not good and felt like a moron.
And this forum puts things in perspective for many of us. Yes I am getting friendly with a nice looking experienced girl BUT who happens to be a bar girl / prostitute, she has "many man", and whether some were grumpy or nice they did help with this realization which I knew but needed to hear it.
Matters of the heart a weird can turn ones day upside down a clear it all with a smiley.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1927735]Your magnanimity Daebis in response to the insensitive comments of some grumpy members is truly outstanding. On the subject at hand I would advise caution moving forward. As you have correctly surmised this type of relationship is complicated. Time is your best friend in getting to know what is really going on. To this end staying in touch is good, meeting up is better but parting with even moderate amounts of money is ill-advised. Over time and I would suggest a minimum of six months you will know better what her true nature is. If she is as nice and as genuine as you believe and if the feelings you have persist you could then take it to the next level. Whatever happens I wish you luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1927735]Your magnanimity Daebis in response to the insensitive comments of some grumpy members is truly outstanding. On the subject at hand I would advise caution moving forward. As you have correctly surmised this type of relationship is complicated. Time is your best friend in getting to know what is really going on. To this end staying in touch is good, meeting up is better but parting with even moderate amounts of money is ill-advised. Over time and I would suggest a minimum of six months you will know better what her true nature is. If she is as nice and as genuine as you believe and if the feelings you have persist you could then take it to the next level. Whatever happens I wish you luck.[/QUOTE]I'm truly sorry your majesty. I should be more sensitive to the monger who proclaims his love for a bar girl on a sex forum, claiming it was a joke after, but still was considering buying her a house. Give me a break! The only valuable part of his post was a question which reveals why Thai bar girls work abroad and for how long.
[QUOTE=Grrrr;1928071]
This forum serves up some laughs! Ha ha ha.[/QUOTE]Yeh, that you haven't mastered clicking on "Quote" someone else's post.
That was more amusing than Shockman's post that you duplicated (slightly).
[QUOTE=BrockStar;1927762]Do any of you guys have experiences with the African ladies? Is 3,000 the norm? In Patts it's only 1,000 so I was thinking 1,500, maybe 2,000, but not 3,000 no way. You can get two pops during a nice nuru massage for less than 3,000.[/QUOTE]1000-1500 is the norm. I've taken some from Pratunam for that much, not from Sukhumwit, but have been quoted that rate without me asking or appearing too interested. Africans are almost all hard pros (they wouldn't have gotten to Thailand otherwise), so try to read you and go for the jugular more than the Thais do.
[QUOTE=BrockStar;1927762]
In Patts it's only 1,000 so I was thinking 1,500.[/QUOTE]I have noticed guys like referring to Pattaya as Patts. It is fine if that is what western guys like to use when conversing, however I advise do not use it with Thai people, in general, and it seems strange to me, being a Thai speaker.
I presume you guys pronounce it as though it rhymes with "bats" (I have never actually heard it). The Patt on the front of Pattaya does not rhyme with "Bat", rather rhymes with "Butt".The correct vowel sound makes a lot of difference in Thai language (while it does not in English). Thais using English words ending in letter "s" usually drop the S as they can't pronounce nor hear it well. Therefore Patts would not be very recognisable to the average Thai person at all. My GF had no clue at all.
I hope at least, most of you avoid to say Pat-THAI-ya. That is a nonsense pronunciation, even though I did hear westerners use it plenty of times. Thais may well understand this one since they heard it pronounced this wrong way so many times.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1928280]1000-1500 is the norm. I've taken some from Pratunam for that much, not from Sukhumwit, but have been quoted that rate without me asking or appearing too interested. Africans are almost all hard pros (they wouldn't have gotten to Thailand otherwise), so try to read you and go for the jugular more than the Thais do.[/QUOTE]I took one girl coming from Africa (Zanzibar region) this year. Met her on Sukhumvit near Cowboy. Can't remember the price, probably 1500, but she was a dud on the bed so money wasted. I was sort of assuming that African girls should be good at it, but was wrong. Stiff legs and painful blowjob. Did not really like to kiss. I have had wonderful African girls before in Europe though. In future I might demand some sample kissing first. I will only risk it if she is very pretty, has big lips, and kisses really great.
Maybe not all the African girls are really experienced. My girl seemed too crappy to be really experienced. Was actually my worst session for the year I think. I can't remember too many other really bad sessions here, only a few average sessions. My weakest girl at Addict was not that bad. I have a bad memory for crap girls though, so I could be wrong in rating the African as worst. Another real cute Thai girl Apple with 3 kids was really terrible and really loose pussy to go with it. Maybe that was this year.
Overall I have been pretty lucky to get mostly O.K. girls, and a few really excellent.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1928300]IMaybe not all the African girls are really experienced. My girl seemed too crappy to be really experienced. Was actually my worst session for the year I think. I can't remember too many other really bad sessions here, only a few average sessions.[/QUOTE]Sounds like she was well experienced in giving low value for money. Not a straight up rip-off per se, but little effort put forth so the customer becomes frustrated and sends her off rather quickly. Not a way to establish repeat clients, but also not the intent of the business model.
SL.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1928300]I took one girl coming from Africa (Zanzibar region) this year. Met her on Sukhumvit near Cowboy. ... she was a dud on the bed ... Did not really like to kiss. ... Was actually my worst session for the year I think. [/QUOTE]I think I met the same girl on the corner of Cowboy and Soi 23 one night. She told me her name was Michelle K from Tanzania. She pronounced Tanzania in a unique way I never heard before. Tan Zanya. Normally I have absolutely no interest in African girls in Thailand as most do not meet my spec, but this girl looked great with her light cafe latte skin color, her very sexy face, and her Thai-esque body type (small natural breasts and a corresponding nice little ass). She gave me her cell number and I texted her a couple of times, but I had only 3 nights left in my trip so I could not and did not want to extricate myself from my scheduled farewell dates with my 4 favorite BKK girls. I guess luck was on my side with this one.
Interestingly, my #1 gal in all of Asia is a mixed race Sudanese / Filipina born and raised in the PI. Lookwise she is a very cute spinner with a very tight little Filipina body. The only giveaway as to her natural origins is her high hair line common with some Ethiopian girls, her darker than ordinary Filipina complexion and her black nipples. Otherwise she is all Filipina in looks and personality. I have been seeing her for 2.5 years now and I am planing on taking her and my #2 favorite gal in all of Asia (LOL) on a beach holiday to Palawan when I return to Asia in 2017.
But getting back to African girls in LOS; normally I have no interest. Their reputations are not good and overall I am not into that predominate body type ie overstuffed large breasts and large ass in a too tight dress or jeans. Michelle K, the Tan Zanya girl, was the one exception. As you know, I am an American living in South Florida. We got lots of original origin African girls of multiple nationalities and racial mixes to choose from right here. And if I wanted a slightly more exotic and perhaps friendlier version, it is a short hop over the Caribbean to Cartagena where there are tons of friendly Latina African Colombianas just waiting to make my acquaintance and please me. In the 90's I used to regularly head down to Colombia. The girls look outstanding, but I got tired of the macho Latino mentality. LOS is a much nicer place to relax and enjoy the women.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1927300]Oh man! She has another customer visiting her! Na, she didn't ask me for anything, only a house! Please tell me where you are, you are sick, we need to send an ambulance for you.[/QUOTE]Really. The house is just a giant blank cheque. She will ask for each million of baht "for the house" until this guy has no more to give, and then dump him.
Bit of advice for dealing with bargirls long term, it's just like renting longterm monthly / yearly lease. This isn't a relationship. Be worth more alive than dead. Seriously, falangs end up murded in Thailand out back in the country over life insurance and as ways to settle property disputes (meaning the bargirl takes all property from the guy she killed). If the punter is worth more as a source of income, he can just use that money as leverage in the long-term rent game.
[QUOTE=Daebis;1928186]
Also I doubt as someone put it that she was testing me and I shouldn't joke about it, I doubt it she asked me for a 1 million bhatt house and a 4 carat diamond when she was drunk and then laughed for 5 minutes. She can play me starring with smaller things.
[/QUOTE]All jokes comes from the truth initially. You need to be very aware that she will be propositioning you for a house very soon. Usually by 6 months but never more than 1 year is like 99% of what happens in "long-term" bargirl relationships. But you may very well end up living in that house for a few years! Highly unlikely for much more than 2-5 though. The "exotic foreigner" appeal that you seek wears off, and you'll find some other girl who is way more attractive since you are now within full access to Thailand for one. Provided that she isn't just looking to get the house and dump you right thereafter (which is what happens to most guys, who learn the HARD way). I ran into a Swedish guy during a border crossing who met a bargirl in Pattaya and bought her (thanks to his semi-rich parents who owned a furniture factory) a house and car. She dumped him immediately after and it obviously hurt him both emotionally and financially. You really need to take care of yourself dude, only you can do that and women have no respect for a man who can't even take for of himself (after all, how could such a guy take care of her, her kids and her family). It's just a huge turn off for women, guys they can con and play so easily.
Honest advice. You buy her a house but never stayed with her day to day (like a husband / wife) for 1 year, you will get dumped within 1 week of the exchange. Best to pay for her exclusitivy by the month. Giving her a giant lump sum is just a red flag for a scam. The second you get an email / request asking for a large sum of money, she already dumped you. You need to swallow that pill when it's given to you and not ignore it.
[QUOTE=ParkVille;1928402]All jokes comes from the truth initially. You need to be very aware that she will be propositioning you for a house very soon. Usually by 6 months but never more than 1 year is like 99% of what happens in "long-term" bargirl relationships. But you may very well end up living in that house for a few years! Highly unlikely for much more than 2-5 though. The "exotic foreigner" appeal that you seek wears off, and you'll find some other girl who is way more attractive since you are now within full access to Thailand for one. Provided that she isn't just looking to get the house and dump you right thereafter (which is what happens to most guys, who learn the HARD way). I ran into a Swedish guy during a border crossing who met a bargirl in Pattaya and bought her (thanks to his semi-rich parents who owned a furniture factory) a house and car. She dumped him immediately after and it obviously hurt him both emotionally and financially. You really need to take care of yourself dude, only you can do that and women have no respect for a man who can't even take for of himself (after all, how could such a guy take care of her, her kids and her family). It's just a huge turn off for women, guys they can con and play so easily.
Honest advice. You buy her a house but never stayed with her day to day (like a husband / wife) for 1 year, you will get dumped within 1 week of the exchange. Best to pay for her exclusitivy by the month. Giving her a giant lump sum is just a red flag for a scam. The second you get an email / request asking for a large sum of money, she already dumped you. You need to swallow that pill when it's given to you and not ignore it.[/QUOTE]Really guys. Why compromise your standards? Would you buy a woman who has a 6th grade education, does not speak your language, and has a parasitic family a house back in your home country? Probably not. So why do it here? Most of these Isaan gals are as sophisticated as a gal from the West Virginia hollers. Difference is they are cuter, have all their teeth, and are most likely not a product of inbreeding. But dudes come here, stick it in, and in six seconds they are "in love. " And most grow to regret it. Don't get me wrong. I have friends over the years that have had successful long term relationships with bar girls. But all of those gals were motivated to do other things and placed their "farang" above their family. And all but one did not already have a kid.
Honestly ask yourself; what is she bringing to the table? If it just the wet spot between her legs and a nice disposition you are probably headed down the wrong track.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1928379]I think I met the same girl on the corner of Cowboy and Soi 23 one night. She told me her name was Michelle K from Tanzania. She pronounced Tanzania in a unique way I never heard before. Tan Zanya. Normally I have absolutely no interest in African girls in Thailand as most do not meet my spec, but this girl looked great with her light cafe latte skin color, her very sexy face, and her Thai-esque body type (small natural breasts and a corresponding nice little ass). She gave me her cell number and I texted her a couple of times, but I had only 3 nights left in my trip so I could not and did not want to extricate myself from my scheduled farewell dates with my 4 favorite BKK girls. I guess luck was on my side with this one.
[/QUOTE]Yes that is the one. I really think you were lucky to miss out. Her skin was not very dark, so I think she may have had some Asian blood in her or something else, anyway not full black girl.