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[QUOTE=Kycuriosity]I really wish I had "verifiable" information on Sabang for you though.[/QUOTE]

I have been going to Sabang for around 15 years, at least twice a year, and I was last there last week.

If you want the combination of diving, beach and babes, Sabang is the best (only!) choice in the Puerto Galera area. It has many resorts of all price ranges, a wide variety of dive sites all within a 10 minute boat ride from the shore, and swimmable beaches within a 10 minute walk. There are also 6 girilie bars in Sabang itself all within about 50 meters of each other, as well as a disco and two 'LA Cafe' type pubs with pool tables where some freelancers hang out.

In the Sabang girlie bars the fee system is a fairly standard 250P LD, 1000P BF plus 1000P 'Tip' for the girl in the morning. LT (all night) is the norm, and unlike AC, the punter is definitely expected to give the gal 1000P in the morning--it should not be considered 'optional' (unless you are exceedingly unhappy with the service--or lack thereof). The quality of gals of course does vary, but as of last week, there were definitely enough good-looking gals around in the bars to keep most punters happy for a few days. The only 'problem' (I hesitate to use that term as it could be construed as being, prejudicial, which I am not) in the bars at Sabang is what is often referred to as the 'Korean Sweep'. It is not uncommon for a group of Korean divers to stroll into a bar at, say, 8 pm, and walk out 20 minutes later with 15 gals. However, as mentioned before, with 6 bars each having around 50 gals, there are normally more than enough to go around.

Interestingly, there are also quite a lot of couples, families and other non-P4P types who visit Sabang, so there is no need to simply cross it off your list of possibilities even if you are bringing your own gal.

Hope this helps.

Manta Ray

Looking at entry requirements to the P I. must declare if bringing in more then 3000 US dollars, does any one bother?

[QUOTE=Manta Ray] as well as a disco and two 'LA Cafe' type pubs with pool tables where some freelancers hang out.

Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Hi Manta,

I am going to Sabang in about 2 weeks. Could you tell me the name of those freelance and disco type places?

If you are around drinks are on me!

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I am in the middle of a little experiment and I am interested to see how long it will run.

I am currently up to number 9. That's the number of girls that I have met over the past 3 weeks who have ALL been AT LEAST 25 MINUTES late for our meeting. One of them was a repeat offender (30 mins and 40 mins late in that order). Two of them were 50 minutes late; another was 65 minutes late.

Now I know we have all discussed this aspect and laughed about it and called it "Filipino time" and I can excuse anyone who gets caught up in unexpected traffic or a serious rainstorm or a family crisis but my examples include none of that. This is just total immaturity and lack of any ability to organise themselves.

They are all mature (ie. Over 28 yo) and all of them know exactly how long it takes to get to the places where I had planned to meet them.

It seems extraordinary to me that they treat a designated meeting time with such a cavalier attitude. I know very well how long it can or might take to get from my home to (say) Greenbelt in Makati, and if I suspect the traffic will be busy then I LEAVE EARLIER so I can be there a few minutes before a designated meeting time.

It's not as though the women I were meeting were busy or had busy lives or other appointments. They were all sitting home doing f. All, so this whole thing not only bewilders me but pisses me right off.[/QUOTE]Don't recall having a pinay actually be on time for anything. Have had them as much as 3 hours late. Its jokingly referred to here as 'mexican time'. Punctuality is not part of the culture. Except for normal business transactions.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I am in the middle of a little experiment and I am interested to see how long it will run.
I am currently up to number 9. That's the number of girls that I have met over the past 3 weeks who have ALL been AT LEAST 25 MINUTES late for our meeting. One of them was a repeat offender (30 mins and 40 mins late in that order). Two of them were 50 minutes late; another was 65 minutes late.

Now I know we have all discussed this aspect and laughed about it and called it "filipino time" and I can excuse anyone who gets caught up in unexpected traffic or a serious rainstorm or a family crisis but my examples include none of that. This is just total immaturity and lack of any ability to organise themselves.
They are all mature (ie. over 28 yo) and all of them know exactly how long it takes to get to the places where I had planned to meet them.
It seems extraordinary to me that they treat a designated meeting time with such a cavalier attitude. I know very well how long it can or might take to get from my home to (say) Greenbelt in Makati, and if I suspect the traffic will be busy then I LEAVE EARLIER so I can be there a few minutes before a designated meeting time.
It's not as though the women I were meeting were busy or had busy lives or other appointments. They were all sitting home doing f..all, so this whole thing not only bewilders me but pisses me right off.[/QUOTE]


That's a really common thing you know, their thinking is 'I'll be on time when I arrive' ...I've seen it so many times, jibber jabbering with a family member for ages, let's quicky brush the floor, it'll only take minute when it has never taken less than 5 or stoopid little house jobs of all kinds that suddenly spring to mind. Best to just factor that into your itinerary for the evening and be clever about it e.g. if we're going to the movies and the film starts at 5pm I'll tell her it starts at 4:30... incidentally I am at master at snake on my nokia :p

[QUOTE=Econo Tech]My 2 cents. If you think they were doing f. All, that is your view..................
Trust me. It doesn't make sense researching such stuff.
[/QUOTE]

You misunderstood my post completely EcoT but thanks for the lecture anyway.
I have lived here for 14 years so I know all the "reasons" and the "how to deal with it" etc etc etc.

My post was, of course, rhetorical.

The "research" is not anything at all empirical but simply an interest in seeing how many girls I will meet before I get one who is on time. Manta Ray told us a story here about how he was 2 minutes late for a meeting once and the girl was not only EARLY but she scolded him for being late.
BTW, most of them spend 90% of the day watching TV which is, to me, doing f.all

[QUOTE=Col Law]Looking at entry requirements to the P I. must declare if bringing in more then 3000 US dollars, does any one bother?[/QUOTE]
Internationally you need to declare only currency aove $10,000.
Never really an issue even if you ring more unless you ring some other contraand articles and they do a thorough search.

[QUOTE=Sammon]Internationally you need to declare only currency aove $10,000.
Never really an issue even if you ring more unless you ring some other contraand articles and they do a thorough search.[/QUOTE]One must bang a lot of ladies daily to need as much as 10,000 USD.

10,000 USD must also take a lot of room, might as well bring 500 EUROS banknotes then it's just about 16 notes : ) once rolled it must be big as a cigarette.

[QUOTE=Sammon]Internationally you need to declare only currency aove $10,000.
Never really an issue even if you ring more unless you ring some other contraand articles and they do a thorough search.[/QUOTE]

It becomes a very big issue if you bring in more than you are allowed and you don't declare it and then they find it either on you or in your bags. It is the same situation if you take out more than you are allowed.
There have been a number of stories in the local newspapers here of people getting caught both ways

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Hi Manta,

I am going to Sabang in about 2 weeks. Could you tell me the name of those freelance and disco type places?

If you are around drinks are on me![/QUOTE]

Hi D1,

The pubs are:

1)Big Apple (same owners as LAC and Howzat pub in Manila). It is on the beach in the middle of Sabang, has pool tables, and good food (with an impressive Indian curry menu!).

2) Broadway. It also has pool tables, and a live band from around 9pm most evenings. Quite a lot of freelancers hang out there listening to music while nursing their drinks.

The disco (forgot the name), is upstairs from Venus Bar. Once again, freelancers hang out there, as well as off-duty BGs and BGs with their 'guest'.

*Keep in mind that it is low season, so there will not be quite as many FLs around as there are from Nov-April. But of course there are always some around! BTW, the norm for a FL LT (all night) is 1000P

I'm in Manila (Makati) at present, so if you are in town for an evening or two get in touch and we can have a beer or three.

MR

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]You misunderstood my post completely EcoT but thanks for the lecture anyway.

I have lived here for 14 years so I know all the "reasons" and the "how to deal with it" etc etc etc.

My post was, of course, rhetorical.

The "research" is not anything at all empirical but simply an interest in seeing how many girls I will meet before I get one who is on time. Manta Ray told us a story here about how he was 2 minutes late for a meeting once and the girl was not only EARLY but she scolded him for being late.

BTW, most of them spend 90% of the day watching TV which is, to me, doing f. All[/QUOTE]Hope you weren't offended, if you are a philipine veteran of 14 years.

Maybe Manta Ray met the girls who are like someof the filipinas I have met in Singapore, and they got the timing stuff perfect, even when they are back in Philippines. On time is always on time. Sadly that's just a minor percentage of women I am meeting there.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Don't recall having a pinay actually be on time for anything. Have had them as much as 3 hours late. Its jokingly referred to here as 'mexican time'. Punctuality is not part of the culture. Except for normal business transactions.[/QUOTE]

I have recently been with girls who go to school and/or work, ON TIME. The local American call center threatens to terminate for one minute late. The question is how they treat personal relationships. A policeman friend insisted to me that filipinos do not respect one another--no not cops, not teachers--except for lawyers (as an American that made me laugh). I let them know that I cancel after 15 minutes. A filipina might not show up at all, and not send a text. So I need some arbitrary limit. Dates for them are optional--something might come up for either party and take precedence. I explain that dating a foreigner must be treated like work or school. We take it more seriously than do pinoys.

[QUOTE=Cbea20]I have recently been with girls who go to school and/or work, ON TIME. The local American call center threatens to terminate for one minute late. The question is how they treat personal relationships. A policeman friend insisted to me that filipinos do not respect one another--no not cops, not teachers--except for lawyers (as an American that made me laugh). I let them know that I cancel after 15 minutes. A filipina might not show up at all, and not send a text. So I need some arbitrary limit. Dates for them are optional--something might come up for either party and take precedence. I explain that dating a foreigner must be treated like work or school. We take it more seriously than do pinoys.[/QUOTE]
We have over 400 local employees working for us and I know this is hard to believe, but they are 99% on time everyday.

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf]We have over 400 local employees working for us and I know this is hard to believe, but they are 99% on time everyday.

Robb[/QUOTE]To be honest, none of the bar girls, casual girl friends never kept their time. And that goes for the hundreds of nurses, and sundry that I have crossed path with, in Singapore, and in Philippines.

The only time they were on time was for business meetings.

You pay them, so obviously they had to be on time I guess. Ha ha.

Hello all,

I have a bit of a strange request, and was hoping that you experienced lads might be able to point me in the right direction. I'm visiting the Phils in August on my way home to Australia for a few weeks. Now. I'm going to Boracay (and Cebu and very briefly Manila). Which means that I can only have 10kgs of luggage.

Now. I usually have about 20kgs when I head home. So I'm wondering if anyone knows somewhere in Manila with secure lockers or storage. Where I can leave my bag while I go to Cebu and Boracay, and collect again on my way through Manila? There won't be anything of value in the bag. Just clothes. So it's very small risk.

I've looked around, but can't find out if there are lockers at the airport, or anywhere nearby.

Thanks chaps!

Suwon.