FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Globus]I did it a couple of times, although usually I had a car. I wouldn't call it scenic, it's not bad neither. For those who haven't seen Frankfurt and want to have a bit of a feeling for the layout of the city, it's okay.

I remember reading in the Oase thread people doing longer walks to Oase, too. And yes, you're right it's a good warm-up!

:–) Globus[/QUOTE]
If the weather is nice, I take the local train from Giessen to Garbenteich then walk to World. About 20-25 minute walk through Garbenteich & Polheim.

[QUOTE=Excess]only made worse as it flashed through my mind of our devout ISGer's making the trek on their knees !!!! What would the girls think seeing them approach the door and filing in ?[/QUOTE]
.. that this would be, indeed, a very bizarre image. :)

[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Hi Globus,

Is the walk from the Frankfurt main train station to Palace less than 5 kilometres?[/QUOTE]


Hi LBC

Definetely. I would say it's about 3 kilometres.

Check maps at google if you're not familiar or sure with the directions

[url]http://maps.google.ch/maps?hl=de&tab=wl&q=Frankfurt[/url]

Cheers and happy walking, Globus

[QUOTE=Globus]Hi LBC

Definetely. I would say it's about 3 kilometres.

Check maps at google if you're not familiar or sure with the directions

[url]http://maps.google.ch/maps?hl=de&tab=wl&q=Frankfurt[/url]

Cheers and happy walking, Globus[/QUOTE]

There are also several reasonably priced hotels along that line of walk making it easy to exit the main train station and have a halfway point to reach before hitting Palace.

[QUOTE=Braveboy79]Hi friends,

I will be landing at Frankfurt airport, can someone tell me which hotel should I take nearest to this club, any GPS co-ordinates of this club.

Many thanks,

Braveboy[/QUOTE]

1. Hotel IBIS (Frankfurt West), Breitenbachstr. 7, Frankfurt
is about 400m from Palace

2. FLEMING'S HOTEL an der Neuen Börse, Elbinger Str. 1-3, Frankfurt
is literally next door

The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.

From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.

I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.

So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not? I live equal distances from both Oase and Palace, but have been avoiding Palace based on the negative reports.

From my 2008 notes:

Oase:
About 40 sessions. Most sessions were great/fantastic, the rest adequate/average/mediocre. No rip-offs. Rip-off ratio: 0%

Palace:
7 sessions. 3 great, 2 mediocre, 2 rip-offs. Rip-off ratio: 28%.

2008 was a bad Palace year for me. I usually do better.

If I stick the girls I know in Palace, I usually do ok. But whenever I try someone new, it's harder. This is what makes Oase such a great place for me. Always something new and exciting, and it rarely goes wrong.

World:
3 sessions. 2 great, 1 mediocre. No rip-offs. Great ratios, but too often I find it just too hard to find my way out of BHH ... ;-)

Just my two cents. But at least based on my own experience.

[QUOTE=Mahaba]The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.[/QUOTE]

I think pretty much everyone's opinion on this subject can be found in this thread, but by all means, let's flog this dead horse one more time....

Magic191,

Yes, I find that there is the odd girl that asks for extra €50 for girlfriend experience like DFK, 69, slower pace at Palace. I have not found this surcharge at any other FKK and definitely not in my usual home of Oase.

Gina (Czech) is a case in point as you have experienced and paid for with at least €100 for a standard session. I also have succumbed to the €100 for 30 minutes if you want a GFE as opposed to a less than pleasant suck and fuck. To me I could not tell the difference between the high standard service and the low standard service.

Jill (Poland) I am less familiar with at Palace.

However, in saying that, Palace does have wonderful facilities and is so much more convenient to get to than World. I would go to World more often if it was closer to Frankfurt. I mean to pay €60 return by taking a train and taxi combo is a bit much when you can do the same run to Palace for say €5 return by train and to Oase for €25.40 train/taxi combo.

Palace is as you say clean, tidy and professional. Attentive bar staff - I always have to wait for a drink at World so I end up drinking copius cups of self serve tea from the dining room. At Oase I am happy with the bar staff.

I think and this is just me thinking - the girls are independent contractors and the management cannot ask them to perform since it would suggest some control (maybe even pimping) over the girls. The rate seems to be what the girls charge and if the guys are happy to pay extra €50 for kissing and performing 69 then that becomes the going rate asked of all punters.

You paint a brilliant picture of FKK Villa in Hannover, however, I have no inclination to make my way that far North to sample that club.

Cheers,

Londonbasketcase

[QUOTE=Magic191]
Gina (Czech). Smiling and friendly in public. Very professional in the room, wanted extra E 50 for 69 or kissing in the room. Will not repeat.

Jill (Polish). Smiling and friendly in public. Very busy in the room. More eager to sell extra (E 50 for intimate touching, 69 or kissing! ) than to provide a nice time. Will not repeat.

The place it self is fantastic. Clean, tidy and professional. Nice food, good service and a perfect place to relax. I do not understand why the management not demand a better service from the girls.

My only FKK comparison is the FKK-Villa in Hannover. This is smaller, but also nice and clean with good food. Nice girls, and all naked all the time (I like that! ). Less action in public, some girls that only speak german, but a better atmosphere. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mahaba]The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.

From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.

I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.

So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not? I live equal distances from both Oase and Palace, but have been avoiding Palace based on the negative reports.[/QUOTE]
There has been enough written on this topic in this thread.

In the end you have to decide for yourself if this place is your cup of tea. It sure ain't mine.

[QUOTE=Shark16]Palace:
... 2 mediocre, 2 rip-offs. ...
[/QUOTE]

I checked your 2008 reports and could not find any mention of these incidents. Care to help us out with names and details so we mongers that like the place can avoid the ladies in question?

Or is the point simply to bash Palace? To paraphrase one of our distinguished senior members, one has to wonder if some of the Palace bashers have a financial interest in competing clubs. Not that I believe that, but that's how crazy this whole discussion gets.

[quote]The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.

From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.

I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.[/quote]
I have to disagree with this. I'm not any better or worse than the average experienced hobbyist at this game. I have been taken or attempted to be at PHG, GT, and World. The instance at World fwiw, was that the girl was sweet outside, terrible inside trying to get me to hurry and making the sex miserable so I would just finish. To me that's a rip off session although not out and out stealing. OTOH the worst service I ever had at Palace was a girl that was attractive but absolutely miserable in the room... sad thing is she was trying to be a good lay she just didn't seem to understand sex. I do know there are some sharks in Palace, no doubt about it. But these girls that will try to take you for a little extra or provide bad service are everywhere, even if there are a few more in Palace than other places. Girls with crappy attitudes and "bad" intentions aren't barred from working in other clubs. Oh, I should add there was a girl in Palace who claimed to be Panamanian or something and was probably Dominican, she was a bad lay. I consider her a rip off type session. But it happens. I should have know though, sometimes it's not all that well hidden, I just didn't listen to my instincts. But it happens just about everywhere at some point in time to some people.

[QUOTE=Radler]I checked your 2008 reports and could not find any mention of these incidents. Care to help us out with names and details so we mongers that like the place can avoid the ladies in question?

Or is the point simply to bash Palace? To paraphrase one of our distinguished senior members, one has to wonder if some of the Palace bashers have a financial interest in competing clubs. Not that I believe that, but that's how crazy this whole discussion gets.[/QUOTE]
You will have noticed that most of the most extreme Palace-bashers have not put feet in it in the last couple of years....

[QUOTE=Mahaba]The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.

From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.

I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.

So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not? I live equal distances from both Oase and Palace, but have been avoiding Palace based on the negative reports.[/QUOTE]
I've had girls try to rip me off @ Palace, World, Oase & GT. I also think there is a big difference between bad sessions & rip offs which some people seem to think is the same.

Palace seems to have more women who are looking to process as many clueless clients as possible. These women are @ all the big clubs & some people seem to be in denial. Palace seems to average more than the other clubs. These women give average service @ best & the more experienced client might considers this bad service, rip offs or sharky. This might be, but just receiving a bbbj from a hot babe is great service for some visiting from another country. In the US, this would be considered out of this world GFE & the price range starting @ a minimum of $300.

If some tourist gets a bbbj then sex for a total of 15 minutes, he is usually a very happy guy. The more experienced guy will check his watch & see the guy was out in 15 minutes then think she gives bad/rush service. The happy tourist is ecstatic he received a bbbj from some hot model looking babe & did not care if she kissed, cuddled, eye contact during oral & etc.

Since most of the Palace chicks seem to satisfy these tourists with what some might consider average service, they really do not need to go out of their way to satisfy the experienced client. The girls might think they are giving decent service & the experienced local with think he might be getting ripped off. Sometimes I ask a guy after if the session was any good & the first timers are usually very happy.

I think Cindy from Slovakia is a good example. Average session @ best with little passion & close to zero energy. Dead fish. I always look for her when visiting Palace because she is drop dead gorgeous, tall, tight & toned playboy bunny bod & watching her pretty face go up & down my cock is priceless. The experienced client will think this is borderline rob & the newbie client is going home bragging to all his friends he banged a playboy playmate & jerking off in his shower just thinking about her.

I also think Czech Lina/Angelina can be YMMV. Some experienced isgers reported below average service, zero service, upselling, no kissing & etc. When I first met her (Dec 2008), I can tell she was sizing me up & she is a pretty sharp girl. Once in the room she did mention CIM was extra which was fine with me. She mentioned it in the beginning & I do not consider it upselling. After 2 days I had 4 really good sessions with her & received great service. Kissing, dfk & first class bbbj for the standard 50E. No rush. Took her time & aimed to please. I also noticed her going in & out of rooms with guys within 10-15 minutes. All the guys just blew their load from her bj. They all seemed happy.

I have had a few bad sessions & 1 chick asked for an extra 50E because she worked really hard. Whatever that means. I've had some women @ Oase ask for the same reason. Only 1 girl tried to rip me off. Solome from Brazil. Great session with plenty of passion & dfk, but tried to get an extra 50E claiming we were in the room for 31 minutes. I always wear a watch & I always check during a session. I make sure I am out of the room by 28-29 minutes. She was adamant about the time & I told her to relax & mentioned she owed me 2 minutes. I told her we can talk to the front desk, but she just got upset & called me names. Too bad because she was a great session.

In 2006, 1 Romanian b***h had the balls to refuse service unless I paid 100E for a standard 30 minute session. Not extras like CIM, kissing, daty. There was a group of 5-6 hot Romanians clock blocking my friend & I with the same ridiculous tactics so I refused to visit Palace for 1 year. I forgot their names, but those cunts are no longer there.

I have had more below average/bad sessions @ Oase than any other club. A few hot babes have tried to rip me off, but Oase is still one of my favorite clubs. I visit these clubs to have a good time & refuse to let 1 bad session ruin my trip. I am there to indulge & a small possible shark bite will not keep me from visiting a club.

Now, I can understand a guy feeling reluctant to visit Palace if traveling from abroad or FKK rookie. It seems silly to avoid the place if you live near. Why let some bad reports keep you from banging some hot babes. Visit & report back.

[QUOTE=Dreams]You will have noticed that most of the most extreme Palace-bashers have not put feet in it in the last couple of years....[/QUOTE]
When the natives (read this to mean "non-tourists") start raving about this place, it will be time to return.

Hope springs eternal though. Why do you think we continue to read this thread?

Maybe one day this club will be stocked with proverbial "hookers with a heart of gold".

In the meanwhile, each person has to decide for himself what is best.

There are so many clubs and so little time and money to throw around.

I've taken the point of view that one should pick an "orbit" and stick with it. My orbit is NRW and it centers on certain small clubs which provide a sure thing, are a good value, where the women recognize me as a [i]Stammkunde[/i] (I'm not into impersonal experiences) and where the women speak German (My Polish consists of a few phrases and my Romanian and Bulgarian is non-existent).

I have no expectations that anyone else shares my view of the world.