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[QUOTE=Traveller747; 1464113]Very well spoken! Thank you for expressing my thoughts. The kind of experience you describe is of a much higher value than,
Wham bam thank you man.[/QUOTE]No problem. I think it would be fantastic if everyone could accept and respect that we all have different tastes and preferances based on our personality. Based on that we indulge in our hobby in different ways. I don't think either way is right, wrong, better or worse. Why don't we just respect others views and share the information we have based on the way we hobby. There most certianly will be sombody who value the info provided either way.
GK
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Same Line
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1463815]I would like to add my 2 cents to this discussion.
Some people (me included) are sensitive to the illusion of a normal date. A prive or a clinica is much more of a mecanical experience. People who prefer to pay R$500. R$600 to take a girl out from a boite is often the type that values relaxation, no time limit and the general feel of involvment from the garota. Not all men are wired in a way that they can get off with a girl (working girl or otherwise) without getting to know her a little bit and without waiting in a line to have sex with the girl you think but don't know if you like.
The men who are sensitive to this type of illusion (me included) also may prefer to spend a few hours in the bar or in a restaurant with the girl before going to bed to work up that illusion of a real date.
Some men (me included) don't get off that easily. It might take a few hours. So TLN might be required. I am not talking about erectile disfunction. There are pills to handle that kind of problems. I am talking about getting off requires relaxation and arousal. For some it requires chemistry which the environment in a prive or a clinica normally just doesn't provide.
GK[/QUOTE]Wouahhhh so I am not the only one that value interaction with the girl before any sex.
I do agree with you on the value of getting the illusion of actually dating the girl, that could explain where I do like Love Story or other balada where there is a lot more seduction and interaction going on.
I tried and tried, I just cannot go to a place like RW, pick on the line, get laid paid and go. I like to speak with the girl, get her to smile, learn more of her, finally getting the impression of dating her.
I do end up quite often not been asked any money, still I don't have any illusion that only the mean of payment changes, I prefer to fair for nice restaurant, a ride to the beach in a nice hotel than a timed
Session in a small room. That just the way I feel, thanks for sharing GK.
FIT
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Preferences
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1464295]No problem. I think it would be fantastic if everyone could accept and respect that we all have different tastes and preferances based on our personality. Based on that we indulge in our hobby in different ways. I don't think either way is right, wrong, better or worse. Why don't we just respect others views and share the information we have based on the way we hobby. There most certianly will be sombody who value the info provided either way.
GK[/QUOTE]GK, I agree completely about you way of thinking, each one with its own tastes.
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[QUOTE=MjTravelLove; 1464185]Where are the best duplas in Sao Paulo? A prive or a clinica? And which ones?
Is there anywhere with genuinely open-minded ladies that play both ways? I spent most of my time at Redway, and agree with SG that it is not the ideal establishment for that. But I do love it there.
So where is the best for dupla? Obviously BBBJ and DFK must be included or else it does not count! LOL.
THANKS![/QUOTE]MJT what about trying the new clinic Miruna's. They have a special price for duplas. Fefão will be pleased to help with the choice of the girls!
Also Iara and Anita (Redway) is a good option!
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Redway
My first time at Redway happened today and I really liked it a lot. A great wingman, nice people, relaxing atmosphere, clean, beautifull girls and a great GFE experience with Simona. Beautiful face and body, all natural, easy to get along with even with language barrier, DFK, great BBBJ, DATY, wet and tight, really in to it. Return factor 200%.
All girls. And it were about 10 I have seen. Were looking really good and seemed to have nice personalities too. I am of the opinion that this will be hard to beat. Even if one is willing to spend much more money else where I would doubt that the experience will be better. But as discussed here previously taste and likes are different.
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Duplas and Triplas
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1464626]MJT what about trying the new clinic Miruna's. They have a special price for duplas. Fefão will be pleased to help with the choice of the girls!
Also Iara and Anita (Redway) is a good option![/QUOTE]Besides Miruna's that seems to be good (I still have to do a test drive there but that should be done in mid Septembre when I'll be in São Pualo) there is my favorite place, Red Messagem that is an option that you must consider.
There is also a very informative section in the forum FSD which is called Duplas e Trios de Acompanhantes. SP e Grande São Paulo.
When choosing duplas or trios the first thing to consider iis.
1) How is the chemistry between the GDPs, and secondly.
2) Do they really interact between each other.
If you are looking for real duplas it is sometimes better to book freelancers that specialize in this type of service.
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1464825]There is also a very informative section in the forum FSD which is called Duplas e Trios de Acompanhantes. SP e Grande São Paulo.When choosing duplas or trios the first thing to consider iis.1) How is the chemistry between the GDPs, and secondly.2) Do they really interact between each other.If you are looking for real duplas it is sometimes better to book freelancers that specialize in this type of service.[/QUOTE]I agree on the freelancers. Clinica dupla are somehow "forced" by the economy, the girl propose it to milk a bit more money.
On that forum there are some dupla getting repeated reports, like they are a well oiled machine. If one has a bit of language understanding can also see how they interact together, and many do.
One can also see there is a bunch of girls having dupla with different girls, but that consistency is a good sign.
I had the luck to have the "well known" Kris Oriental 2-3 times and she likes to eat and be eaten by another girl, not to mention she brings toys along.
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10?
[QUOTE=Wolfi1508; 1464637]My first time at Redway happened today and I really liked it a lot. A great wingman, nice people, relaxing atmosphere, clean, beautifull girls and a great GFE experience with Simona. Beautiful face and body, all natural, easy to get along with even with language barrier, DFK, great BBBJ, DATY, wet and tight, really in to it. Return factor 200.
All girls. And it were about 10 I have seen. Were looking really good and seemed to have nice personalities too. I am of the opinion that this will be hard to beat. Even if one is willing to spend much more money else where I would doubt that the experience will be better. But as discussed here previously taste and likes are different.[/QUOTE]Redway is a good place for price / quality but for better quality you have redmassagem only bad point in that mlace it is only covered blowjob. And I hate that
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Red Massagem
[QUOTE=Nimpus;1464976]Redway is a good place for price / quality but for better quality you have redmassagem only bad point in that mlace it is only covered blowjob. And I hate that[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "covered blowjob" are RedMassagem? I always had BBBJ there (and sometimes CIM) without paying more. It is always important to ask for it before having a session with the GDP.
I always had incredible duplas session there. Maybe I was Lucky or it is tha fact that I'm fluent in Portuguese. Too bad that it didn't turn well for you.
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[QUOTE=BionicMan;1464954]I had the luck to have the "well known" Kris Oriental 2-3 times and she likes to eat and be eaten by another girl, not to mention she brings toys along.[/QUOTE]I agree with you BM,
Kris is one of the best (for a very fair price) when it comes to have a really good duplas. As I stay now in Liberdade, on a street adjacent to Motel Lido, it is easy for me to book here there.
There a other duplas that are exceptional but they are a little bit expensive (I'm thinking here of Carol Pierre and Mariana Vaz). Carol Pierre and Juliana Bergamini were a very hot dupla but unfortunaltely Juju doesn't work anymore. :(
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1464981]What do you mean by "covered blowjob" are RedMassagem? I always had BBBJ there (and sometimes CIM) without paying more. It is always important to ask for it before having a session with the GDP.
I always had incredible duplas session there. Maybe I was Lucky or it is tha fact that I'm fluent in Portuguese. Too bad that it didn't turn well for you.[/QUOTE]For me normaly its usualy BBBJ but with the 2 girls I did in may at redmassagem, it was covered blowjob (condom)
Problem is that you don't have a real interview or interaction with girl before choosing her. This is the reason why I prefer termas or boites where you can interview the girl and make sure she kiss, suck with no condom and can take CIM
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Red Massagens
[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1464981]What do you mean by "covered blowjob" are RedMassagem? I always had BBBJ there (and sometimes CIM) without paying more. It is always important to ask for it before having a session with the GDP.
I always had incredible duplas session there. Maybe I was Lucky or it is tha fact that I'm fluent in Portuguese. Too bad that it didn't turn well for you.[/QUOTE]SG, according to some locals who go to this place, it's hard to find some girl who do BBBJ / CIM there.
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Redway
[QUOTE=Wolfi1508; 1464637]My first time at Redway happened today and I really liked it a lot. A great wingman, nice people, relaxing atmosphere, clean, beautifull girls and a great GFE experience with Simona. Beautiful face and body, all natural, easy to get along with even with language barrier, DFK, great BBBJ, DATY, wet and tight, really in to it. Return factor 200.
All girls. And it were about 10 I have seen. Were looking really good and seemed to have nice personalities too. I am of the opinion that this will be hard to beat. Even if one is willing to spend much more money else where I would doubt that the experience will be better. But as discussed here previously taste and likes are different.[/QUOTE]Wolfi1508, I agree with you 100, Redway is, by far, the place I like the most. You've said it all!
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[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1465005]SG, according to some locals who go to this place, it's hard to find some girl who do BBBJ / CIM there.[/QUOTE]For the last month (July to today) there were over 40 reports with only one mention (02/08/2013) of a non BBBJ and three reports of andão sei (I don't know which indicates that the guy was not interested in recieving a BBBJ or he simply didn't ask for this).
Do you maths properly, and you'll have the answer! I would probably have the same ration of BBBJ over non BBBJ for a year.
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Red Massagens
[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1465019]For the last month (July to today) there were over 40 reports with only one mention (02/08/2013) of a non BBBJ and three reports of andão sei (I don't know which indicates that the guy was not interested in recieving a BBBJ or he simply didn't ask for this).
Do you maths properly, and you'll have the answer! I would probably have the same ration of BBBJ over non BBBJ for a year.[/QUOTE]SG, I'm referring to BBBJ and CIM!