Kyiv

Cruiser, what is your usual (prepared) response to the classic female question "Why are you in Kiev?" ?

Business? Cabbing? Humanitarian work for the UN?

I have a friend who always tells them that he owns a couple of Louis Vuitton shops in London and he's looking into opening one in Kiev. Says it works EVERY time ;)

[QUOTE=Ash1001]Cruiser, what is your usual (prepared) response to the classic female question "Why are you in Kiev?" ?

Business? Cabbing? Humanitarian work for the UN?

I have a friend who always tells them that he owns a couple of Louis Vuitton shops in London and he's looking into opening one in Kiev. Says it works EVERY time ;)[/QUOTE]
What did he mean by "worked" every time? They all ended up sucking his cock in the hopes they might get a sample bag? Kind of doubt that, it's a pretty see-through ploy. But who knows, maybe he had other skillz... there's actually a funny Seinfeld episode kind of along those lines... seemed to work on Elaine...

Not that I am innocent or above trying such things...

Having heard such stories and not yet having found my own method, back in the day I tried similar approaches just to test the water and gauge the reactions. Said I was a real estate developer, CNN correspondent, talent scout, even pretended to be a formula 1 race car driver testing tracks for a proposed new F1 course near Nagatino in Moscow. On the latter, in my own defense I was at Night Flight in Moscow and the girls were telling equally preposterous stories about being stewardesses and famous models so I didn't feel guilty.

But as for pretending to be some hot shot megabucks, it is a two-edged sword. Sure interest in tweaked initially, but following up on being "Mr.Big Shot" in her eyes usually means being "Mr.Big Spender"... not my "bag", baby. :)

Pun intended.

I prefer (egads!!!) a more honest approach and find it's much more effective long-term to either tell the truth or if you need to maintain a degree of secrecy as I do, tell something that is close to the truth and something you can back up. It's not so much my honest nature, but rather a question of practicality and effectivity. Most important thing is that they see you as a man of some means and as a guy that will have added value for her, particularly that you will return on a semi-frequent basis. Pretending to be Mr.Vuitton collapses like a house of cards pretty quickly. This will destroy a lot of chances for following up on leads on a second or third visit, which is really where you start racking up the yardage and pro bowl stats in terms of fuckage IMO.

The most important factor of all remains communication and personality however. You need to find a way to communicate with her otherwise you'll never be able to push her buttons. When you find those buttons, you'll have to be interesting enough to hold her interest long enough until the drawers come off.

Telling outright lies from the getgo seems to be a lousy start to a "relationship" to me.

This question why did you come to Ukraine is a shit test.The girls want to see if there is possiblity of a long term relationship,how reliable you are and if you are manly enough to tell the truth.So every answer to this question can be right and wrong in the same time because it can prove one thing or another depending on what is in the girl's mind.

What I personally do is accepting that I have come for tourism(imagine tourism in Ternopil or Lugansk world class resorts) but I am also involved n some kind of survey about potential investment in real estate where I want to help a friend to buy some properties.(not exactly a lie).

This leaves the girls a bit confused,some may retire without a word but most stay and then the game starts.

There's already a LV store in Kyiv.... any modern fashion-oriented girl in Kyiv knows this and wouldn't fall for that trick. Only stupid average girls would be like oh my god (sarcasm). It's next to the Gucci and Roberto Cavalli stores. These stores sell very few items that are of the current season and focus more on the longer self-life items such as handbags, men's suits, and metal jewelry/accessories. I bought something for myself (LV) and something for someone else (Gucci) last time I was in Kyiv.

That being said, I have met some of the most drop dead gorgeous birds at the LV and Gucci stores. Most women who shop there are old and over the hill, but occasionally, ms. new mistress will show up. Don't even bother if you don't have the game and the cash bag to back it up. Apparently, a limited amount of clientèle shop at these stores and the staff do remember you. Gucci employee remembered my name from my previous trip there (about 6 months apart). I know the US/London/Paris/Rome stores have all your info saved in their electronic database, but he didn't have time to check as he greeted me upon entering.

first off - high speed internet access. wi-fi is getting to be pretty wide spread. most cafes in the center seem to have it. it's great for making skype calls on your enabled smart phone (i'm never one for lugging my notebook around). also something else that is becoming popular in kiev are usb cellular modems. peoplenet offers a evdo modem and mtc offers a 3g modem. you place a sim card inside them and recharge using phone cards. someone told me the mtc modem costs $200. i have no idea how much the peoplenet modem costs because someone gave me one. seems like a good way to always insure you have hi speed access (a must for me) unless of couse the mobile phone network in ukraine collapses. of course if that happens you'll have bigger problems then not being able to watch youtube video's.

ash, i generally tell the girls i am an international playboy. which considering what i do now is more akin to holding court then dating, i generally met girls now 2-3 at a time. i tell the girls i used to have business in kiev now i don't but i still come back to visit friends, date girls and have borsch. seems to work for me.

excuse me cruiser if i have misread or misunderstood some of your previous posts, but if you are a new york cab driver who comes over to kiev in search of girls, just for playtime so to speak, then why on earth would hi speed access be a must for you or any other mongerer who comes to kiev for fun.
for those here not for business but pleasure, the so called advances of technology are best left behind.

Furthermore, Banker24, LV doesn't allow anyone else to run its shops, so anyone in the know would pick this up straight away. I must stress I've never used that line myself, and frankly couldn't as I'd never be able to keep a straight face :)

Any young/attractive girl found shopping there is likely to be on some mega $$$ sponsorship deal. Out of my league, I must say. I like spending on drinks, dinners etc. and don't count the pennies but to hand a girl a bunch of 100s and tell her to buy something nice for herself is a bit oligarch.

Cruiser, you will at some point reveal yourself to be one of Hugh Hefner's long lost sons (hell, he must have a few). Is the cab actually a Lamborghini?

Skank, your situation is greatly helped by the fact that you are *really* there on business. I'm sure that most of what you say actually is true. In fact I only came up with a plausible 'scenario' after thinking about my real business and the stuff I do know about. In the end I convinced myself it was actually true! But the simple fact is, they have no great interest in your life's work. They just want to figure out your means. If you turn out to be a school teacher after 2 hours of talk she's gonna be mightily pissed that she wasted her time..

BTW you must be careful about saying you're on holiday. Holiday=Perv looking for young girls. Skank, I remember you went on a language course in Kiev last year? That's ideal as it shows you have some interest in the culture.

As you say, the truth, or something close to it, is often the most effective weapon.

Holiday does not mean perv exclusively.It depends how you present yourself.If you look like sex tourist,talk like sex tourist and behave like sex tourist,then you are probably a sex tourist.But if you present yourself decent and show some intelligence or whatever,the girl starts seeing you and not another sex tourist.

[QUOTE=Ash1001]
As you say, the truth, or something close to it, is often the most effective weapon.[/QUOTE]
PSYOP 101.

I guess they don't realize that a school teacher in the US can easily pull down six figures. It ain't Kiev!

[quote=tremayne]

cruiser why would hi speed access be a must for a monger who comes to kiev for fun.

for pleasure, technology are best left behind.

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wake up, its 2008, ok? every day, more and more new ladies get wired and plugged into the web, so surfing mongers can plug into them. is this actually news to you?

Unless a dyev's ONLY interest is a very quick sponsorship, (a/k/a fuck me right now and give me my present), I ALWAYS get asked about my business.

It seems a lot less about sizing me up financially, and much more about something serious, like trusting that I'm not just another short term visitor looking to bang institute pussy and then leave town. I like to talk about my real business, show them actual fotos of my companies, including my mostly female workers, and explain I'm there developing business partnerships with corrupt government officials for the purpose of creating new companies over there. Then I tell them I'll be needing a good manager to help in running these companies, and would they consider working for me.

As Ash101 mentioned, they don't appear to feel like they are wasting their time with me, after that. :D

[QUOTE=Brandon88]I guess they don't realize that a school teacher in the US can easily pull down six figures. It ain't Kiev![/QUOTE]Easily? Where? Sure wasn't IOWA!

LS Guy

Hi All,

Is Kiev still the place for freebies or should i look elsewhere in Ukraine?

Cheers

I thought I would get a story or two down before I forget about them. As most of you know I generally never write about sexploits. If I did all my time in Kiev would be spent fucking and writing.

I had just finished up a hard day of dating – 3 new girls and one regular when I got a call from a friend asking if I wanted to go to my favorite strip club. Since naked dancing girls is something I rarely turn down I said yes. Anyone who has joined me in my adventures in Kiev knows which club I am talking about. For those who do not, too bad. :P.

The club had some fairly decent talent that night and I set my eyes on a tall dark hair girl that a great body and an innocent fresh face. Her ‘great body’ also included a set of very nice breast implants so one has to wonder how innocent the girl really was. I figured to have her come to my table, talk to her a bit and bust the Cruiser D patented stripper pick up moves on her. I was distracted when I had my chance first by my friend and my second chance by another girl. She made three rotations and on the third rotation she got scooped up by an Asian/Russian guy who look much more in need of her services then I did. But do not fear my gentle readers, Cruiser D is hardcore and prepared for situations likes like this. As she was walking by for her final exit before joining her new friend for the night the Cruz gave a quick Dyevushka! And slipped his business card in her hand, with a wink and a smile. Did Karina call me the next day? What do you think…

On the way out I spun a fun rounds of roulette and quickly won back all the dyevushka money I had spent that day. Ah so the Cruz was even for the day and happy. The karma gods were in balance. I walked back to my apartment (funny how my apartment is within walking distance of my favorite strip club). Got home around 3am. At that time the karma gods tipped the balance in my favor when Katya, one of my late night staples called. Some times in Kiev you lose and sometimes you win and sometimes you are me. ;)