Medellin Reports

I'm reading all these crazy trip reports during this quarantine which reminded me of a old conversation. When I was in Brazil in 2005 I met a great girl at 4 x 4 that I repeated with 3 nights in a row. On the 3rd night we had a deep conversation. She said all the girls hate themselves and cry all the time because of what they do for a living. I said they look happy on the outside in the bar area. She said it's all acting that we see.

What kind of toll do you think being a hooker has on a young women. Some of these girls provide such great service. Are they all Oscar winning actresses. Have any of you guys with better Spanish or Portuguese had a conversation with a girl about this and what did they say. Is being a hooker something that goes against the biology of all women or was this girl being dramatic. Are we all damaged, the guys and hookers, and we just don't see it, because we are in our little bubble. Since all we have is time can anyone share some conversations they have had. I personally have been having some kind of depression after doing this 20 years that has recently hit me in the last year. Of course I will be back in Tijuana as soon as I can because I can't stop doing this.

See my earlier post about "hooker theater". There are aspects of any profession that makes people prone for retirement.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2446777]I'm reading all these crazy trip reports during this quarantine which reminded me of a old conversation. When I was in Brazil in 2005 I met a great girl at 4 x 4 that I repeated with 3 nights in a row. On the 3rd night we had a deep conversation. She said all the girls hate themselves and cry all the time because of what they do for a living. I said they look happy on the outside in the bar area. She said it's all acting that we see.

What kind of toll do you think being a hooker has on a young women. Some of these girls provide such great service. Are they all Oscar winning actresses. Have any of you guys with better Spanish or Portuguese had a conversation with a girl about this and what did they say. Is being a hooker something that goes against the biology of all women or was this girl being dramatic. Are we all damaged, the guys and hookers, and we just don't see it, because we are in our little bubble. Since all we have is time can anyone share some conversations they have had. I personally have been having some kind of depression after doing this 20 years that has recently hit me in the last year. Of course I will be back in Tijuana as soon as I can because I can't stop doing this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2446777]I'm reading all these crazy trip reports during this quarantine which reminded me of a old conversation. When I was in Brazil in 2005 I met a great girl at 4 x 4 that I repeated with 3 nights in a row. On the 3rd night we had a deep conversation. She said all the girls hate themselves and cry all the time because of what they do for a living. I said they look happy on the outside in the bar area. She said it's all acting that we see.

What kind of toll do you think being a hooker has on a young women. Some of these girls provide such great service. Are they all Oscar winning actresses. Have any of you guys with better Spanish or Portuguese had a conversation with a girl about this and what did they say. Is being a hooker something that goes against the biology of all women or was this girl being dramatic. Are we all damaged, the guys and hookers, and we just don't see it, because we are in our little bubble. Since all we have is time can anyone share some conversations they have had. I personally have been having some kind of depression after doing this 20 years that has recently hit me in the last year. Of course I will be back in Tijuana as soon as I can because I can't stop doing this.[/QUOTE]Most girls can't do it for very long before they age out. Lack of future if they have no plans after is kinda depressing.

These girls have never felt rejection before when they start. You got guys without a solid future investing tons of time in these girls for a chance at bat let alone a home run. I was one of those guys and although my future is still bright, I missed out on some solid opportunities for a chick that was at best a 4. I had her thinking she was a 10, if she went to a casa and got looks of disgust or a ton of "no thank you"s from a bunch of guys she thinks are 7's and below, pretty sure that ego bubble popping would hurt.

Some of these girls that are solid 8's probably had multiple guys they could manipulate. When they go out and realize they aren't supermodels doing a temporary gig until their beauty can elevate them to Kim kardashian level wealth like all these guys tell them on an hourly basis, it's probably a hard pill to swallow.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2446777]What kind of toll do you think being a hooker has on a young women. Some of these girls provide such great service. Are they all Oscar winning actresses. Have any of you guys with better Spanish or Portuguese had a conversation with a girl about this and what did they say. Is being a hooker something that goes against the biology of all women or was this girl being dramatic. Are we all damaged, the guys and hookers, and we just don't see it, because we are in our little bubble.[/QUOTE]What kind of toll does being a garbage man or a skyscraper window cleaner have on a young man? Different strokes for different folks. This world is made up of all kinds and there is something for everyone. Just because you don't see how someone can do whatever job, there are people who would not want to do anything else except that job.

You know how a lot of guys feel sorry for chicks and think they have to be hookers or starve to death? I have met hookers and tried to offer them alternate work assignments to put some money in their pockets and they have turned their nose up at it. They have literally told me my job is to fuck for money; find somebody else for that bullshit.

You talk about Spanish or Portuguese, but I bring perspective from the world over. It has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with the culture you were raised in. For instance, here in Asia sex does not have the stigma or emotional attachment that they have traditionally tried to assign to it in Western cultures. There they try to make it out to be something that should be highly guarded and you should feel guilty for fucking or whatever, when in reality it is just another bodily function such as eating and breathing.

A couple of years ago there was a monk here in Thailand that said if foreigners are coming over here and only want sex and are giving you all kinds of money and shit, then you would be a fool to miss your blessings. Simply put, there are some people that would not do a certain thing for $1 million and there are others that would do that same thing for free; that includes fucking a shit ton of men. The girl was being dramatic. Unless she is forced into some type of slavery, then the only damages are from what she willingly brought upon herself. If you were dirt poor and on your last leg, would you go out and fuck men for money? Probably not. Which means that she does not have to either. It is a choice.

P.S. People in the service industry are supposed to provide great service. Did the waitress at the restaurant provide great service? Did the mechanic that worked on your car provide great service? Did your dentist provide great service? You do not have to be an Oscar winning actress to provide great service when you are in the service industry. There are plenty of people that provide shitty service just the same.

Mr E,

I understand what you are saying about other jobs providing great service. BUT having sex with all kinds of men is a emotional thing and women are very emotional. Being a mechanic isn't the same. Are women biologically wired for this job is the question. Let's face it, they grow up wanting the prince to sweep them off their feet and marry and have kids. What little girl dreams of being a prostitute when they get older. None. When does that thinking change for these girls.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2446777]I'm reading all these crazy trip reports during this quarantine which reminded me of a old conversation. When I was in Brazil in 2005 I met a great girl at 4 x 4 that I repeated with 3 nights in a row. On the 3rd night we had a deep conversation. She said all the girls hate themselves and cry all the time because of what they do for a living. I said they look happy on the outside in the bar area. She said it's all acting that we see.

What kind of toll do you think being a hooker has on a young women. Some of these girls provide such great service. Are they all Oscar winning actresses. Have any of you guys with better Spanish or Portuguese had a conversation with a girl about this and what did they say. Is being a hooker something that goes against the biology of all women or was this girl being dramatic. Are we all damaged, the guys and hookers, and we just don't see it, because we are in our little bubble. Since all we have is time can anyone share some conversations they have had. I personally have been having some kind of depression after doing this 20 years that has recently hit me in the last year. Of course I will be back in Tijuana as soon as I can because I can't stop doing this.[/QUOTE]The cure is a BBBJ by a girl who loves oral-LOL But in all seriousness, yes, you make a valid observation.

I've also had similar thoughts and experiences with repeater girls. They know the longer they are in the life. The worse they will be later. They all know the kids are getting older and ask too many questions and they hear shit too. Yes, the girls cry a lot. They know that by the time they're in their 30's, a chick with kids, baby damage, saggy tits, dried tattoos, and a high mileage box with anus to match, is a recipe for being life-long single. My girl longs for the "knight" to come thru. So do many others because for every 10 there's 1 that get picked and taken away to a foreign country. All the ones I know about are all being physically abused by their new husbands but that's another story for another time.

I used to host little parties in my hotel room. Had to cut that out cause by the time we finish the bottle, the music changes from upbeat to love ballads and now the girls are all lamenting on their horrible lives and how they just want to be somebody's good wife. A major bummer-I just wanted to fuck a few chicks.

All I can say is that your heart is in a good place, my friend! For some of us, the older we get, the carnal desires lose a little luster whereas we were fucking for sheer sport, shits and giggles just a few years ago. It's called growth, bro!! Good for us!! We didn't make the game, we didn't make the rules-but we're still going to play. I don't mind bringing a small gift or an outfit or even mind springing for a meal--that's nothing!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2446774]Did she refuse? Did you get to the first base?[/QUOTE]I didn't think she was actually serious. She voicenoted pretty good english but got there and spoke none. I was wishing positive. Figured no way she coming just to talk and smoke. But if you examine the situation and the guy is paying taxi then it's a getaway and free high. Maybe a guy with more patience and spoke spanish might have fucked her. But it was funny that two more girls hit me up to meet under the same concept. I guess it's a quarantine thing. It did not happen prior to quarantine. Anyways to me first time visitor. Colombia is very safe. Just watch your liquor, wallet, what you smoke and don't follow slap shot advice LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2446796]What kind of toll does being a garbage man or a skyscraper window cleaner have on a young man? Different strokes for different folks. This world is made up of all kinds and there is something for everyone. Just because you don't see how someone can do whatever job, there are people who would not want to do anything else except that job.

You know how a lot of guys feel sorry for chicks and think they have to be hookers or starve to death? I have met hookers and tried to offer them alternate work assignments to put some money in their pockets and they have turned their nose up at it. They have literally told me my job is to fuck for money; find somebody else for that bullshit.

You talk about Spanish or Portuguese, but I bring perspective from the world over. It has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with the culture you were raised in. For instance, here in Asia sex does not have the stigma or emotional attachment that they have traditionally tried to assign to it in Western cultures. There they try to make it out to be something that should be highly guarded and you should feel guilty for fucking or whatever, when in reality it is just another bodily function such as eating and breathing.

A couple of years ago there was a monk here in Thailand that said if foreigners are coming over here and only want sex and are giving you all kinds of money and shit, then you would be a fool to miss your blessings. Simply put, there are some people that would not do a certain thing for $1 million and there are others that would do that same thing for free; that includes fucking a shit ton of men. The girl was being dramatic. Unless she is forced into some type of slavery, then the only damages are from what she willingly brought upon herself. If you were dirt poor and on your last leg, would you go out and fuck men for money? Probably not. Which means that she does not have to either. It is a choice.

P.S. People in the service industry are supposed to provide great service. Did the waitress at the restaurant provide great service? Did the mechanic that worked on your car provide great service? Did your dentist provide great service? You do not have to be an Oscar winning actress to provide great service when you are in the service industry. There are plenty of people that provide shitty service just the same.[/QUOTE]Amen ME! I am so sick and tired of men putting their lives on the line every day and hearing nonstop about women being victims. The women get an obscene amount of money working on their backs. Yes, there are some dangers, but I look at the life NFL linemen have after retiring or the ones who get hurt before even getting a chance to play. That is the definition of selling your body for cash and being abused. Shit, it is not even close.

Thinking of traveling and getting an AirBnb in July. I'm from the US. Does anyone want to hang out in Medellin? I'm thinking of coming and checking out the scene for about a week, dates aren't final yet. I'm in my 20's, and would love a bro squad to go out with haha.

For now it is over. Botero Plaza is as it was before the quarantine except the bars are still closed. I don't think many of us are regular customers of those joints anyway. I am pleased to have my rathole back. All the girls are back, all the sacaleros and gamines. Perhaps most notably I saw a couple of gringo rats I recognized but have not seen since February or early March. It was a bit of a school reunion. I did not expect to see so much activity behind the church. I got so wrapped up in the excitement I walked over to Prado. It was sensory overload. I got the hell out of there quickly because I decided the crowd was too closely packed.

I overheard a woman say the wait to get on the metro was an hour. I really hope that was an exaggeration.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2446804]Mr E,

I understand what you are saying about other jobs providing great service. BUT having sex with all kinds of men is a emotional thing and women are very emotional. Being a mechanic isn't the same. Are women biologically wired for this job is the question. Let's face it, they grow up wanting the prince to sweep them off their feet and marry and have kids. What little girl dreams of being a prostitute when they get older. None. When does that thinking change for these girls.[/QUOTE]Emotions and being biologically wired have nothing to do with being a hooker.

It's a profession plain and simple, the oldest profession on the planet, based on making money, and it's that simple.

The irony though is that some of us, at least I can, and what you have realized, and I believe might be depressing you is how tough being a hooker can be, and the toll it can take on them both mentally and physically.

I had an experience in Athens, Greece of all places last year that I felt very bad about. I was in Athens and went to what they call Studios there, lets say they are similar to Casa's. I went to one of them and a woman who had to of been close to sixty years old opens the door and let's me in. Upon entering, I asked to see whom was available, and the response was it was only her, this was her Studio. I was in disbelief, and kind of winced as that had not been what I encountered at the other Studios. I thought upon entering the Studio she was the Madam or whatever they call them in Greece, but no she was the hooker there.

Upon wincing, she was not a happy camper with me and I was immediately pointed to the door. I felt really bad upon leaving as I had offended her and not by intention. Imagine being a hooker at 60 competing with a bunch of hookers one third to half of your age.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2446613]
I will return to the US when it is possible but for now, I am enjoying my stay in Medellin Like always, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Pollo, you are living the dream. The closest I've been to Medellin is Bogota, and I hope to visit Colombia again once travel is possible. I'll make a direct line to the City of Eternal Spring!

--Atanion.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2446753]She was one I found on Facebook during a deep-dive session. That's when I go 4 or 5 layers deep into someone's friend list. She is from Pereira. She's unfortunately an ANP girl "Amor Necesito Plata. "[/QUOTE]Interesting terminology, and sounds as though your a Facebook "Dumpster Diver" which by definition is looking for treasure in someone else's trash, but in this case, a Fayboo friends list.

Eddie,

You are saying I'm maturing. Maybe you are right. Kind of like Howard stern. His show is nothing like it was 20 years ago. It pretty much sucks now.

I feel I want to be in a normal relationship with a non hooker now at close to 50. The problem is I am not attracted to old women. I still like 18 to 23. It's hard to get that in the states with how people are brought up here. Should I just move to Colombia and find a regular chick to have a relationship with. My Spanish would have to improve for sure. I'm at a crossroads guys. It took 20 years to get here tho.

Day whoknowswhateverthefuckbutIthinkitscurrentlyApril.

Wifey is on her way back. She said she wants to be here, and I should know that, but she has to help at home. Follow along.

She says 300 k per week and she will clean the whole apartment, regularly.

I sat on that. I was really thinking. I do think I should be giving her something, because even just 2 citas per week would kill what she's offering, if she used the FB Mafia rates (which I think she easily could). Then. I thought, I spend a couple hundred bucks at the grocery store when I really stock up. A big percentage of that is the alcohol. Now, I didn't factor in the tusi she always brings back, which she said was 70 k per bag, originally. So, let's say it's 50 k. She's easily spent (or sucked or fucked) 300 k on that. I literally just remembered, as I type this, that I gave her 50 k on her way out the door, for taxi / food.

Anyway, I eventually counter with 500 k until May 11, but threesome (s) included.

We get sidetracked. She says ok. I ask what type of girl. She says I can choose. I ask what's her type. She says we can search together. Perfect.

She counters with 700 k. This is Colombian Math, which is closely related to Colombian Geography. I had to tell her, "You said 300 k / week at first, and now you are saying 350 k. ".

I told her I spend 400 k on her every time I go to the store.

She agrees to 500 k until May 11. I told her we can discuss post-May-11 at a closer date, once we know what's going on with the quarantine.

I'm glad she's coming back. I want to be all over and inside of her, tonight. I can't wait to get a little buzzed and start searching / messaging!

When I have been living like this for 5-6 weeks, it's so fucking hard for me to justify wanting a FB Mafia chick to come over for 2 hours, 1 pop, drink a gallon of my liquor, and pay her 200-250 k.

I was honestly a little bored, when she was gone, aside from banging the pinky-head. I think just sitting on the computer for 10-12 hours a day, I need that companionship, conversation, and sex, to break up the monotony. For me, it's much more efficient to have a girl here, than spend hours searching, messaging, laying groundwork, negotiating, etc. Basically, all this shit I normally enjoy doing before and during my trips to Medellin. Strange times.

Na zdravi.