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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2766126]Obviously, I am in Pattaya, and have met some posters here in Thailand.
Will it rain tonight? Maybe.
Here's a hint: go into Maggie Mays, buy a drink for a lady, and instead of saying "cheers", say "salud". The lady will ask you to be the DJ for their YouTube. Don't play classic rock, play Becky G, and everyone will be happy.[/QUOTE]I have always enjoyed reading your posts, please carry on. May be if you can share more pics of the places and pricing like Sir Lancelot, casual lurkers like me will find it more helpful.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2764306]But Pattaya is a city of unexpected surprises.
Soi Diana has underwhelmed me on this trip so far but I was passing a bar that was filled with older ladies. But sat there in the corner was a diamond in the rough, a beautiful fresh-faced girl. I bought her a drink and she told me she was 20 years old and from Cambodia. I clinked glasses with her and said 'aw khun' to the gods above, they'd delivered me a last-minute winner.
The barfine was 400 baht and she asked for 2000 short-time, immediately accepting my 1500 counter-offer. It was a fair price for such a lovely girl. She was probably half the age of most of the other girls on soi Diana.
Back in my room she had an incredibly tight pussy and I loved sucking her erect nipples. I fucked her in mish and she rode me noisily to a climax, showering me with kisses. I lay back and admired how pretty she looked, this sweet Cambodian cutie, riding me like her life depended on it. Thank you Thailand.
She collapsed on top of me afterwards as we both tried to get our breaths back. 'Me like fuck you' she said, not so innocent after all.[/QUOTE]I think I've seen that girl, the bar is Buttercups, on soi Diana, a few meters away from Buakao, on the right side.
She has a pretty face but is very skinny, I would be surprised if she is more than 35 kg.
I passed that bar riding my bike and saw two girls sitting alone on the chairs, one looked good from where I was so I came back, parked my bike in front and she waved me in.
She brought my beer and we had a quick chat of less than 2 minutes and she suddenly left me and tried to wave other people in the bar, then went to sit alone. I think she didn't like I didn't bought her a LD straight away (she didn't even ask for it), but I never do that. Some of these girls are very lovely and I don't have any problem buying them drinks, but I've met a good bunch of assholes too, so I always wait a bit to see if she really deserves that I buy her a drink.
There were 3 or 4 girls in the bar at that time, with two other customers sitting alone.
I still could get some information out of her during the talk (her name is Tawan), the bar is new and opened only ten days ago. She is a girl from Nongkai, and was working as a freelance on Thai Friendly before working there.
She had all the crap vibes from the freelancers of walking street discos, same broken English, same cheap perfume that I cannot stand, and looked a lot less attractive at close range so it was not a big loss for me but I still thought the service was terrible.
Then the girl that looked like the Cambodian that Sir Lancelot described arrived, she's got a distinctive look, she is easily recognisable.
That girl also didn't even care about the guys that were already in the bar although none of them were accompanied, and she went straight and tried to lure in guys passing in front of the bar, or had her head on her smartphone.
Eventually, she could get a Taiwanese 30 years old guy in, they went to have a drink together and the guy left not long after entering the place. She probably asked him too much because he looked like he was interrested in her.
I watched the end of the Ghana South Korea first half, put my 80 baht in the bin and left without anybody caring about that (not even a good bye or thank you).
Personnaly I will not go back there even though the Cambodian girl is attractive (all the others are not), but the service was really terrible for me.
Funny thing is that when I went back to my hotel at around midnight, I saw her going back in a nearby hotel with an older (60 something) Farang dude who was probably twice her height.
So the girl is interrested in Asian young guys, tries to milk them, doesn't give a shit about the customers that are already there, and ends up with a guy completely different to what she was chasing, 3 times her age and twice her height.
Me thinks she would at least need to lower her expectations or up her service level if she wants to get something out of her work.
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Airbnb
Hello brothers,
Posted this question in pattaya hotels thread and got no response, so posting it here as this thread looks more active.
Planning my visit to Pattaya, wanted to know if guests are allowed in apartment in central pattaya (B**e) when booked using airbnb.
Kindly suggest.
Also open to suggestions for 2 bed 2 bath places in pattaya which are closer to walking street and guest friendly.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2766479]Lately I was sitting near two guys that were obviously managing an Agogo in Pattaya in a bakery.
One foreigner and an Asian guy (probably Thai).
They were talking about some problems they were facing (in English).
It seems like they have very little control over the girls, the foreigner was complaining that one girl comes and sit without doing anything to attract customers, another comes with inappropriate clothes (he was saying something like " we cannot let her come like this, we have to find her some good outfit" another had just told him she wants to get on a contract (then he said "if we put her on contract we'll have to put pressure for the drinks") and finally the last thing he said before I left was that he was asking the Asian guy to find some good quality girls, obviously their girls are not very good (and they know it) and he looked desperate to attract so good quality girls.[/QUOTE]Post more bro. You actually make Sense.
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[QUOTE=IronMerc;2766516]Hello brothers,
Planning my visit to Pattaya, wanted to know if guests are allowed in apartment in central pattaya (B**e) when booked using airbnb.
[/QUOTE]Even some freelancers work in THE BASE. So no problem taking a chick there.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2766420]I think there might be a reckoning after high season as some.
Go Go's struggle to stay in business, but it all depends on demand. If there are enough customers willing accept these huge barfines ect then the high prices will continue. $200/ night on a ST including lady drinks, the barfine, and the girl's price in a top Go Go will become common if mongers keep travelling to Thailand and are willing to shell out the cash. You would think some smart bar owners would try to compete with lower prices and better service or some savvy girls would go around the bar and take care of customers in the afternoon or something, but this is LOS, so who knows what is going to happen in 2023 and beyond.[/QUOTE]Once this high season is finished (March 2023) I think there will be a significant slow down in global tourism and in Thailand. The TAT even said they are now expecting less tourists in 2023. The global recession hasn't really started yet, the pent up demand for when Thailand fully reopened will be gone and inflation will persist.
I'm expecting low season 2023 to be great for cheap hotels and cheap girls.
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[QUOTE=IronMerc;2766516]Hello brothers,
Posted this question in pattaya hotels thread and got no response, so posting it here as this thread looks more active.
Planning my visit to Pattaya, wanted to know if guests are allowed in apartment in central pattaya (B**e) when booked using airbnb.
Kindly suggest.
Also open to suggestions for 2 bed 2 bath places in pattaya which are closer to walking street and guest friendly.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I used these apartments, no issue bringing anyone in.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2766454]There are many posters here with many different expectations from this site. Not everyone's expectations are met, so there is naturally some disappointment expressed here.
For example, some participants here want explicit descriptions, ie they want to know what "Nong" does, how much she charges, and where she works. The problem is, by the time they get to Pattaya, Nong is long gone from her former bar, or she charges more, or she has a sponsor and doesn't go with customers anymore. Precise topical information is worthless unless you are in Pattaya right now, and even then, YMMV.
.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this but you left out one important thing. Just because Nong pressed all the right buttons for, and got rave reviews from, one monger has no bearings on whether she will do the same for me. Many times we will not be in to the same kinks and she may not even be my type looks or body wise.
Are guys really saying that they need step by step, detailed instructions to find a girl and have a good time in Pattaya? You do realise that 90% of the complainers will never actually make it to town and forever remain in mom's basement.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2766624].
Are guys really saying that they need step by step, detailed instructions to find a girl and have a good time in Pattaya? You do realise that 90% of the complainers will never actually make it to town and forever remain in mom's basement.[/QUOTE]Some do. Hahaha.
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Explorer is the Pattaya MVP poster.
Bangkok thread needs an Explorer type.
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[QUOTE=Mombie75;2766562]I used these apartments, no issue bringing anyone in.[/QUOTE]Inverse, broader question: are there apartments or condos in pattaya that rent to male foreigners that do not allow to take guests?
Hotels may have their policies, but apartments and condos, I doubt.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2766624]I totally agree with this but you left out one important thing. Just because Nong pressed all the right buttons for, and got rave reviews from, one monger has no bearings on whether she will do the same for me. Many times we will not be in to the same kinks and she may not even be my type looks or body wise.
Are guys really saying that they need step by step, detailed instructions to find a girl and have a good time in Pattaya? You do realise that 90% of the complainers will never actually make it to town and forever remain in mom's basement.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Just because a girl clicks with me, doesn't mean she will with you. And if she clicks with you, doesn't mean she will with me. We ALL have our own ideas of beauty. It's why I work to access ATTITUDE with the ones I find attractive. With my MP FR's, I try to include details of the scene so one might know what to expect. For bars, I find drink prices, bar fine, asking price, accepted price [I]interesting[/I], but from experience, the price she quotes me could very well be different than what she quotes others. That's just reality. And why I can't understand the requests for contacts, especially here. It's not like the adult [I]entertainment[/I] scene is hidden [S]...[/S]. Veni, vidi, vici.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2766505]I think she didn't like I didn't bought her a LD straight away (she didn't even ask for it), but I never do that. Some of these girls are very lovely and I don't have any problem buying them drinks, but I've met a good bunch of assholes too, so I always wait a bit to see if she really deserves that I buy her a drink.[/QUOTE]I'm old school, a lady drink is not a given just for her sitting there. She has to be [I]entertaining[/I], working for it. I understand the bars, and girls, have to make a profit, but being graced by her mere presence doesn't do it for me.
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[QUOTE=Knobrm;2766705]Inverse, broader question: are there apartments or condos in pattaya that rent to male foreigners that do not allow to take guests?
Hotels may have their policies, but apartments and condos, I doubt.[/QUOTE]There are some apartments whether in town or out like the Darkside that have policies I've not seen a place rented generally to a foreigner tell them they can't bring in a girl. I've found in or out of town if there is a policy it normally is imposed on the Thai lady because some owners don't want their place to be used as an ST or LT. I've gotten away at times since I look like one of them they think I'm their father? The ones in a town like in the Baukhao area side Soi, I've never been by a freelancer I couldn't. In fact, it is kind of a game if they are telling me the truth they live alone go to their place I rather they have the money than a ST room place.
For Condos, it depends on the builder management team largely the bigger the harder it is to monitor. Many terms of ownership and renting are that you can't! But unless you create a lot of noise for your neighbor it normally isn't going to be reported. I wouldn't if one was living next to my unit 555, but I had a close relative that had a crackhead ladyboy that rented next door after failing to get management to step in and address the problem it was handle not so pretty for the ladyboy, and when that was done he had got his team of lawyers sued the complex and removed the entire management staff.
Many Condos the language is pretty cleared but I've found in town there are lots of them not following the purchased rules.
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[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2766557]Once this high season is finished (March 2023) I think there will be a significant slow down in global tourism and in Thailand. The TAT even said they are now expecting less tourists in 2023. The global recession hasn't really started yet, the pent up demand for when Thailand fully reopened will be gone and inflation will persist.
I'm expecting low season 2023 to be great for cheap hotels and cheap girls.[/QUOTE]I think you are expecting wrong. Still a bunch of condos and hotels going up. This place is hopping with Indians and Russians. And once the Chinese are allowed to come back in it will really be overcrowded. History has shown us that you should always expect the opposite of what Thailand's tourism authority says.
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Day 20: miracle
The day before we were having an interesting conservation in a bar on soi 6 in which Owen and Sam reminisced about the good old days when long-time meant long-time and you'd struggle to get the girls to leave in the morning.
Nui was one of those girls. We slept until midday, when once again I was awoken by her stroking my dick. We had sex twice the night before and here she was trying to initiate a third pop.
After showering, she got dressed and I paid her the agreed 2000 baht plus a tip. She gave me one the best long-time experiences I've ever had, so thoroughly deserved it. What a girl.
The only negative was that when I looked at myself in the mirror after she'd left, I had three lovebites on my neck. Hard to explain to my favourite girl at Vixen who suspects (quite rightly) I'm a butterfly.
There was another torrential downpour early afternoon so I whiled away time in my room. Once it stopped I decided to head to soi 6 for a quickie. I didn't want to spend a long time deliberating, so was delighted when I saw a lovely looking girl outside Kawaii Bar. She was 19 years old and from Laos.
She led me upstairs to the smallest, most sparse soi 6 room I've ever been in. The double bed went from wall to wall. An estate agent would describe the room as 'compact'. It didn't even have a bathroom, we had to shower down the corridor and return to the room wrapped in a towel.
When she dropped her towel in the room, I was pleasantly surprised to see large natural breasts. She lay next to me and we kissed, before a bit of fondling, fiddling and fingering got me in the mood. I like it when you fuck a girl with big tits in mish and you see them wobbling like jellies. In my experience most girls don't use their breasts anywhere near enough to turn a man on, but this girl did, rubbing them up and down my chest as she rode me to a climax.
There was an amusing moment on the way back to my hotel.
There is a restaurant next to the alleyway heading to Vogue and I was walking past when an old lady tried to lift her apron over her head. But she unwittingly grabbed her T-shirt as well and gave me a flash of her tits. When she realised what she'd done she quickly scanned around to see if anyone had seen and saw me with an exaggerated look of shock on my face. She found it funny and every time I've walked past since I jokingly hold my hand up to my eyes to shield them.
It was just me and Sam out tonight. Owen decided to go solo tonight to see 'if the old Thailand exists, instead of this over-priced short-time shite'.
We started with a drink in Vixen where I was joined by my favourite girl. I only have four days left of my holiday so I told her I'd barfine her early one of those nights and we'd go to some bars, dance and finish with a nice meal somewhere. She didn't notice my lovebites.
After a quiet drink at Blue Sky Bar we went to Area 52. It started raining so I helped the girls put up the canopy.
And then a miracle happened. Two weeks ago I asked a beautiful girl at Area 52 if she'd like a drink but she told me she was with a customer. She's obviously popular because every time I've seen her since she's with a customer, usually playing connect 4. But tonight in Ass 92, a sister bar of Area 52, she was sitting on a stool at the front of the bar, free from the evil clutches of rival customers.
I bought her a drink and she was a lovely girl. Her name is Ploy and she is 20 years old from Udon Thani. A lot of these bars must have a recruitment drive in that city because it's surprising how many of the girls are from there. As well as having a very pretty face, she spoke decent conversational English and took her time over her drink.
'You connect 4 champion of Thailand!' I joked to her.
We had a quiet beer in Emma's Bar, opposite, before going to Angel & Monster where I bought a drink for my favourite girl. She previously told me she doesn't go with customers but has been messaging me a lot on Line, especially when I told her my holiday ends soon.
I can't stress enough, if a girl tells you she can't go with you it's not game over. It's simply not possible for girls to accept every barfine offer that comes their way and I reckon the pretty ones set a limit of how many customers they go with each week. They probably choose regular customers they're comfortable with, so if you get rejected by a girl you like, take it with a smile but don't be put off.
At Moonlight I watched as two middle eastern men played pool against two girls. One of the girls was very pretty but didn't work at the bar, so had probably been barfined from a gogo bar by the older, more arrogant of the two men, cigarette dangling from his bottom lip as he played his shots. The other girl, tall and pretty, is one I've noticed at this bar several times before but she's always been very serious faced. However tonight she was laughing, clapping excitedly and high-fiving when she potted a ball. The funny thing was though, she was doing all of those things to me, before returning to the side of her customer and clinking glasses with him.
Eventually the customer's phone came out and a very formal looking negotiation process began. It didn't go well because two minutes later he left the bar on his own. I took the opportunity to buy the girl a drink and we played a few games of pool. I won them both despite my best efforts to lose.
I was tempted to barfine her but something put me off. I'm not sure exactly what. She was pretty, bubbly and seemed to like me. Perhaps it was how she laughed hysterically when I accidentally potted the white? If you do barfine a girl from Moonlight, it's 400 for short-time and 800 for long-time.
It was late so I decided to go to Brussels Bar to barfine the cute girl I'd had a few drinks with a few nights earlier. She was having her hair straightened by another girl when I arrived and looked cute in a sparkly red dress.
I bought her a drink and we played pool before suddenly the music stopped. I'd completely lost track of time and it was closing time. I asked her whether she'd like to come to my hotel and she quoted me 1300 short-time and 2500 long-time. Of course they're just starting prices and I'm sure she'd come down to 1000 and 2000 but before I had chance to give a counter-offer she called the mamasan over and told her I wanted to take her. Despite the fact it was 2. 10 am, the elderly lady told me the barfine would be 500 baht!
There was no way I was paying the barfine on principal. The bar had closed and the purpose of a barfine is to compensate the bar because a girl is unable to work. The bar doesn't own the girls outside work hours. The pretty girl and I exchanged Line details and arranged for her to meet me at my hotel shortly.
But it didn't happen. 2. 30 came and went, so did 3 am. She didn't come to my hotel and my Line messages went unread. In the bar she was flirty and nodded eagerly when I suggested she come to my hotel so it was very strange. I suspect the greedy mamasan noticed us exchanging Line details and told her off after I left for arranging to meet after work hours.
It was a disappointing end to a promising night but I didn't mind too much as I was tired and craved sleep after my interrupted night's sleep the night before.