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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932907]Goatscrot,

You talk about the very Isaan look that is so boring for you.

How about this girl pictured from the MyPrincess web site. I hate the look of most girls on My Princess but this girl pictured, has a very Thai look about her, not even slightly Westernised. She looks fine for my taste. I could easily take her, indeed I might try. Note the unmodified nose (hardly any nose bridge and upturned). Bigger than average lips I like. Slim but curvy. Likely small tits.

If you don't like this strongly Thai look, where is the problem? I the skin too dark? Do you like high nose bridge or hooked noses? Is the jaw O.K.?

I really hope this is the real girl look.[/QUOTE]I guess the pics could fool me and she could be a lot more chunky than what I expect at 53 Kg. 46 Kg. For 163 cm might be more my type.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1932359]Posts #36490 and #36497? Hmm. But the most recent post prior to this one is #35635. Are you talking about another thread or did I miss something?[/QUOTE]Hey,

There are 2 post by Syzy that I was commenting on the BKK forum and thought he had great advice on dealing w / the BKK BGs. I wanted to express my appreciation. In general the last few pages have been very good intel and method of operation on BKK.

I'm in Makati now and just starting to recover from the long long flight. I hit the ground running last night and checked the Burgos scene and it was not close to the quality in BKK. I suspect that the scene fluctuates and should be better tonight. I went out at 1:30 in the morning and not much left at Kojax / Plan be which are Burgos premiere bars. I hope things improve. I wish the PI had the the quality Thailand has.

Cheers.

Guys, it is not about reliability, area, good pics bad pics, and restrictions. It is about your Thai language skills, trust from the lady, your negotiation skills, and generosity. I have been with 9 or 10 girls from these sites. I have never translated a word of Thai from those long ads and the desriptions. I simply make contact on Line or mobile phone and talk.

It's simple guys. I have introduced another avenue other than Sephan Kwai to indulge in the Thai mongering scene. Believe it or not, the girls are quite different than the ones we meet in our normal haunts on Suk. They live in normal Thai neighborhoods like Lat Phrao, Bangna, Near the airport and so on. Some will never have been with a foreigner and rarely even seen one as well. It is not for everyone but I happen to love the white skinned beauties with nicely done fake bolt ONS, beautiful rear ends, and that stuck up Thai High So atitude. I would like to Plan a trip over to Kush or the Pimp for that very reason.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932917]I found ads from lots of different areas, with Lat Prao dominating just a little. No generic look other than a few too many had nose jobs of course. Some fatter or older girls going cheap. Some very young looking (even 18) usually cost more.[/QUOTE]I was looking at the first link and didn't find any Lad Phrao. Which link is that?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932907]Goatscrot,

You talk about the very Isaan look that is so boring for you.

How about this girl pictured from the MyPrincess web site. I hate the look of most girls on My Princess but this girl pictured, has a very Thai look about her, not even slightly Westernised. She looks fine for my taste. I could easily take her, indeed I might try. Note the unmodified nose (hardly any nose bridge and upturned). Bigger than average lips I like. Slim but curvy. Likely small tits.

If you don't like this strongly Thai look, where is the problem? I the skin too dark? Do you like high nose bridge or hooked noses? Is the jaw O.K.?

I really hope this is the real girl look.[/QUOTE]Nah, that just does not do it for me. Really not into that type of face. In fact, she would be my last choice on the page. Fanta and Jina would be one and two.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932462]You do have the web page translations these days, but Google Translate does not do as good a job of translating Thai to English as it would do for say German, as an example.

Here is a sample of Google Translate and my translate in brackets:

Name: piano ka (Name Piano - also uses Aor elsewhere).
Female McCoy (Gender: real Woman).
What to do (Service): Yes (Yes?) Ormoc fresh (BBBJ) Mongolian sister (DATY) up to (Cowgirl) hold milk (grab tits allowed) milk (suck tits) kisses exchanged tongue (DFK) bath water (shower together)
Where to Get the Job: (district), Bangkok (Bangkok).
Get a job: (workplace) Hotels (Hotel).
Expenses (The fees).
Water early 4000 baht (First shot 4K).
Water: Pay an extra 2000 baht (2nd shot 2k).
Room: 460 baht (room fee).

You can see that sometimes the Google Translate can be a little Baffling. Like "Ormoc Fresh" should be "Smoke Fresh", and "Mongolian Sister" should be "Lick the Younger Sister". How it managed Mongolian, I don't know.

Female McCoy means the Real McCoy LOL. Sometimes we see เพศ: สาวสองยังไม่ผ่า which means Gender: girl 2nd (type) not yet surgically removed (dick).
Ladyboys in Thailand are known as girls of the 2nd type.

Do you find some other translator online does better than Google?[/QUOTE]Google translate is just very frustrating when the girls pull their phones out to use it (when they want to tell me something that is outside of my very meager thai). Google isn't a translation company, but a search company. They are using some statistical matching from their web-page search scrapings to pair words from different languages. All I can try to tell them (in my meager thai) is that it the app they are using (they usually don't even know what google translate is, so the app has some other name or just no name for them, I have to just point to ii) doesn't work very good, I don't understand that. But they don't understand how that could be, as they percieve the app as a near perfect translation device, while presenting me with a "translation" that is talking about "brother's cherry tempest son of virtue".

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1932812]For the first time in I don't know how long. A friend is in town and he was on the hunt so I decided to meet him there. The night certainly cemented in my head the reasons I don't frequent GoGo.

Billboard was the place, and while there were some decent bodies to be seen, there were only one or two faces that I found the least bit attractive. The others being victims of bad plastic surgery or were a bit too hard Isaan for my liking. But again, some nice bodies to glance at.

First issue, the music. Awful dance music. Just can't tolerate it. Back in the day GoGos played some top 40, rock, hip hop, and it was much better. The inane dance music is a real irritant. Second issue, you have to listen to, "I want go with you. " "I want toilet. " "You pay bar. " Etc. Heard that from the gal siting on the lap of an Asian fellow next to us. I can understand why less frequent visitors, first timers, et al enjoy this. But for me it is a complete pecker wilting experience to have to sit with and attempt to interact with someone who has as little to offer conversation wise as these gals do. Sure, there are exceptions, but yesh, 2 min of that and my mind feels like it is going to melt. Third, the cost of taking them out and rolling the dice on performance. Just can't see paying over 100 USD for these gals when all is said and done. Would gladly pay a bit more than I pay in an oily if the performance was the same, but I am certain it would not be. I must add that Leos were only 140 which is expensive but not completely awful. That was the one surprise.

Really just don't like the atmosphere to tell you the truth. If I have to GoGO give me a small non-glitzy bar like Cactus in Cowboy where the girls are naked and there is raunch to be found.

So in short, I am glad there are dudes out there who enjoy this. More power to you. I am not one of you.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report, I agree with the sentiment of it, sadly. I do not go to nana much but I did go a few months ago and just really lucked out on a provider. I feel that was not the norm as she is only a part time gogo worker. I think the ones who are there like it's a job will treat it like a job: what is the least work I can do for the most money? Whereas the part-timer is looking for more of a gik like arrangement. I think the best thing to do is avoid the place though. Avoid the "bar / gogo" industry and focus on the part-timer freelancer types. Some of them work in gogo's sometimes, but probably better off scouting the more legit places like discos.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1933002]Google translate is just very frustrating when the girls pull their phones out to use it (when they want to tell me something that is outside of my very meager thai). Google isn't a translation company, but a search company. They are using some statistical matching from their web-page search scrapings to pair words from different languages. All I can try to tell them (in my meager thai) is that it the app they are using (they usually don't even know what google translate is, so the app has some other name or just no name for them, I have to just point to ii) doesn't work very good, I don't understand that. But they don't understand how that could be, as they percieve the app as a near perfect translation device, while presenting me with a "translation" that is talking about "brother's cherry tempest son of virtue".[/QUOTE]I started coming to Thailand 25 years ago. No web pages, no auto translate, no mobile phones, no ISG. I spent significant time with Thai people who had even less English than I had Thai. So I was sort of forced to keep pushing my Thai abilities higher. One girl helped a lot because she had the ability to speak Thai very clearly and slowly. This meant I could use dictionaries to look up words. Some were so basic. I had many dictionaries (expensive). You really had to find the right ones that were oriented towards Farangs. To go from English to Thai was the biggest problem. Most English to Thai Dictionaries were specifically for Thais, so would explain English words with Thai text sentences, not handling English common phrases and how to put them into a Thai Phrase. Eventually found a special English to Thai word and phrase book for Farangs with Romanised Thai (not just Thai script). Mc Robertsons something. Not a full Dictionary but had most common things that you need. In a later it year was re-edited by the Goldings who taught Thai language in Australia I believe. I spent a lot of time in DK Book store and Asia Books checking out which dictionaries to buy, long ago.

Some stupid dictionaries had two columns: English Word and Thai word, however single words have several different meanings, so it just doesn't work. The English word "Can" has several meanings, and each requires a different Thai word. Same in reverse. Thai words can have several meanings.

Google translate can misunderstand the context badly and pick the wrong meanings. In some cases it does not even recognise certain Thai words, especially slang and teenage special language, and thinks they are English words spelt with Thai script. I don't know where it gets its reference base of Thai and English text for same thing that is a good translation.

So I know Moke (in Thai script) means BJ, but Google translate would not know that. There are several alternatives for BJ.

In modern day, computer and phone App Thai-English English-Thai Talking dictionary is a good one for learners. Plus use some other web sites, e.g. Thai-Language.com

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1933011]Thank you for the report, I agree with the sentiment of it, sadly. I do not go to nana much but I did go a few months ago and just really lucked out on a provider. I feel that was not the norm as she is only a part time gogo worker. I think the ones who are there like it's a job will treat it like a job: what is the least work I can do for the most money? Whereas the part-timer is looking for more of a gik like arrangement. I think the best thing to do is avoid the place though. Avoid the "bar / gogo" industry and focus on the part-timer freelancer types. Some of them work in gogo's sometimes, but probably better off scouting the more legit places like discos.[/QUOTE]Why do you say "lucked out"? Perhaps you really mean "good luck"? Part timers are the best. Even girls who worked there for years but hardly show up for work can be great, or especially when they just returned from holidays or studies or even just before the period comes. Its possible to find horny girls, if you get lucky. LOL.

I got very lucky with my selected Billboard girl. I think she tried Bangkok Bunnies or similar downstairs for a short while then moved to Billboard. Only a few months. Not really jaded as yet for purposes of take out. I don't know how many days a week she works.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1932984]Nah, that just does not do it for me. Really not into that type of face. In fact, she would be my last choice on the page. Fanta and Jina would be one and two.[/QUOTE]I was really hoping you would explain why you don't go for her. I certainly wasn't expecting you to like her, but I just don't understand why. You know, I like specifics, not just a vague, "the girl doesn't appeal".

What type of face is it? Face shape is oval fine. Jaw not too pointy. Where does the problem lie, or maybe you guys don't really understand the detail of your own taste at all?

Don't be shy. You can say her skin colour is no good, if you like. Won't worry me. You can say you hate a natural nose with no bridge. You can say the eyes are too slanty.

I am willing to say I don't go for many Chinese girls with eyes too much like slits. Big eyes works if not over exaggerated.

I like Jina as well, but only in some pics (1, 5, and 6). The glasses pic looks good. Chin a bit pointy and cheeks I little strange is some pics. Fanta, not so sure. Her eyes are shopped enlarged in some pics that looks a bit strange. In some shots she looks a bit too Western for me. Its a fairly good nose job but I still don't like it. It has resulted in a slightly hook nose. Rather average look. I prefer a much more exotic strongly Thai look.

Have a look at pic 2 of Folia. LOL Could that be her natural look before she had surgeries. I cannot recognise as same girls as in other Folia pictures. However The after surgery look is the witch like look. Pic 2 is easily the most appealing for me, even if nose is a little bulbous. Bulbous nose is a very common problem for Thais. Trouble is mostly after they get a nose job, the bulb may go, but worse problems. Some Isaan girls are fortunate to have no bulb or squashed flat nose, and they don't need any correction, in my opinion.

Hard to pic my last choice fo girl with the heavy shopping, Gucci, Saya, and Star probably fight it out. Some of the pics make me shudder, they look so much like a LB or alien. MyPrincess really specialises in very average looking heavily shopped surgery girls for my taste.

Does My pictured girl Lada need a nose job? I don't believe so. I like it.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1933023]I was really hoping you would explain why you don't go for her. I certainly wasn't expecting you to like her, but I just don't understand why. You know, I like specifics, not just a vague, "the girl doesn't appeal".

What type of face is it? Face shape is oval fine. Jaw not too pointy. Where does the problem lie, or maybe you guys don't really understand the detail of your own taste at all?

Don't be shy. You can say her skin colour is no good, if you like. Won't worry me. You can say you hate a natural nose with no bridge. You can say the eyes are too slanty.

I am willing to say I don't go for many Chinese girls with eyes too much like slits. Big eyes works if not over exaggerated.

I like Jina as well, but only in some pics (1, 5, and 6). The glasses pic looks good. Chin a bit pointy and cheeks I little strange is some pics. Fanta, not so sure. Her eyes are shopped enlarged in some pics that looks a bit strange. In some shots she looks a bit too Western for me. Its a fairly good nose job but I still don't like it. It has resulted in a slightly hook nose. Rather average look. I prefer a much more exotic strongly Thai look.

Have a look at pic 2 of Folia. LOL Could that be her natural look before she had surgeries. I cannot recognise as same girls as in other Folia pictures. However The after surgery look is the witch like look. Pic 2 is easily the most appealing for me, even if nose is a little bulbous. Bulbous nose is a very common problem for Thais. Trouble is mostly after they get a nose job, the bulb may go, but worse problems. Some Isaan girls are fortunate to have no bulb or squashed flat nose, and they don't need any correction, in my opinion.

Hard to pic my last choice fo girl with the heavy shopping, Gucci, Saya, and Star probably fight it out. Some of the pics make me shudder, they look so much like a LB or alien. MyPrincess really specialises in very average looking heavily shopped surgery girls for my taste.

Does My pictured girl Lada need a nose job? I don't believe so. I like it.[/QUOTE]Yes, don't like the flat nose, don't like the shape of the face, looks "simian" to me for lack of a better term. Lips are a bit too big. Large mouth. Teeth look like the grill of a '57 Buick. I like the Luk Krung look. When it comes to SE Asia I think Viet gals are far prettier than Thais. And to me there is nothing hotter than a post-surgery Korean gal who has had good work done.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1932812]For the first time in I don't know how long. A friend is in town and he was on the hunt so I decided to meet him there. The night certainly cemented in my head the reasons I don't frequent GoGo.

Billboard was the place, and while there were some decent bodies to be seen, there were only one or two faces that I found the least bit attractive. The others being victims of bad plastic surgery or were a bit too hard Isaan for my liking. But again, some nice bodies to glance at.

First issue, the music. Awful dance music. Just can't tolerate it. Back in the day GoGos played some top 40, rock, hip hop, and it was much better. The inane dance music is a real irritant. Second issue, you have to listen to, "I want go with you. " "I want toilet. " "You pay bar. " Etc. Heard that from the gal siting on the lap of an Asian fellow next to us. I can understand why less frequent visitors, first timers, et al enjoy this. But for me it is a complete pecker wilting experience to have to sit with and attempt to interact with someone who has as little to offer conversation wise as these gals do. Sure, there are exceptions, but yesh, 2 min of that and my mind feels like it is going to melt. Third, the cost of taking them out and rolling the dice on performance. Just can't see paying over 100 USD for these gals when all is said and done. Would gladly pay a bit more than I pay in an oily if the performance was the same, but I am certain it would not be. I must add that Leos were only 140 which is expensive but not completely awful. That was the one surprise.

Really just don't like the atmosphere to tell you the truth. If I have to GoGO give me a small non-glitzy bar like Cactus in Cowboy where the girls are naked and there is raunch to be found.

So in short, I am glad there are dudes out there who enjoy this. More power to you. I am not one of you.[/QUOTE]I agree with you for the most part but don't you miss the thrill of the hunt sometimes? I always like to mixx it up. For example today I went to Tulip and had a no holds barred PSE session with Dao. Next week, I will go on a 10 K date with a sideline girl, and next weekend, I will party in Nana. Mixx it up a little.

Arrived after 9 PM. Some girls still arriving. Line up started weaker than previous visit but improved rapidly as girls returned to stage from customers, or doing makeup or whatever.

Some girls on left stage had pantyhose, or whatever covering legs. Not many. Did not see any on right stage, maybe 1. Standard of girls on right stage was generally better for my taste. Less surgeries, relatively.

I spotted 3 or 4 girls I could easily like. Was assisted by a new waitress who used to work Hot Lips in the past or Candyland 2. In my belief pantyhose has no bearing on whether girls can be BFed. It just means their legs have marks they wish to hide. Simple as that. Probably all girls can be barfined. It is just that some girls are not available for sex. I obviously do not know the exact numbers.

I had no trouble finding a girl that was keen to go with me for ST. Bpoo Bpeh was her name. Face vaguely like Barbara Bach exotic look, more popular with Farangs than Japanese, but smaller nose and small tits. While some girls are reported to set high prices on themselves, other girls can be had for 2500. May be possible to get lower. Depends on how in demand the girl is and what she decide the one that would make me most happy.

My girl was curvy with very small waist. She was cute enough and willing to kiss so took her for short time. She was very responsive and very passionate. Full on DFK for extended duration. She seemed to like it and DATY. She seemed to like the fuck too. In cowgirl position she was banging down quite forcefully. Significantly more than most girls do. She kept doing that till her legs were tired. I finished in very nice doggy and prone fuck. Super GFE. Enjoyed her immensely and will repeat. Weakness was her mouth was too small to do BBBJ very deep. No matter. Took her eat afterwards, steamed mussels and Prawn fried rice. Says she has very low English. 25 YO very petite, but very good waist to thigh ratio. I got lucky again. I was more than happy with how she turned out.

Billboard has some pretty good girls especially in the tall floor group. However I would say Twisters is better overall on average for looks and a few extra stunners. Billboard has poor lighting (black lights) so you don't see the faces so clearly. Billboard has some very nice girls and quite a few rather ordinary including somewhat fatties. Twisters has no fatties. Twisters line up is definitely better for looks than Crazy House at the moment. Girl Tequilas are called Rose Tequilas or Strawberry Tequilas and milky looking. Obviously this is not real tequila.

Twisters had plenty of customers. After just 4 months or so of operation, it is already much busier than Mandarin based on my last visit there. Quite a few guys were getting lap dances for the price of lady drink. More Japanese customers than Farangs. Same as for Crazy House.

I did not have any problems with Twisters today, other than 1 K BF is obviously a bit high. It is not keeping the customers away though. Billboard is also doing okay For customers but not all the seats taken after midnight.

Will be interesting to see if Natty Bumpo likes this bar or Billboard better. Both have some excellent standard girls.

Great follow up report Syzygies. I am glad to hear Twisters is up and running with some quality girls to be had. I was very skeptical of those "sky is falling" posts saying the girls did not barfine. The only Go Go's in Thailand that I know of where the girls do not barfine are the "Arab's' bars where for some reason or other, the management is apparently not interested in making a profit. I just wish you would rethink your policy of naming your girls. BB sounds like a real nice girl. You found her easy enough. I am 100% confident I will be able to find a girl to my liking too if one is present when I check the place out and I will not be explicitly looking for your girl, but rather I will be looking for my own girl that I find attractive and can get along with for a variety of reasons. She might turn out to be one of your girls by coincidence because as you know, we do have a few girls in common, but I would never take a girl based on someone else's posts, even those of a close friend. YMMV is the key reason for that along with my desire to make my own fire. So I just don't see the reason for putting the spotlight on a nice girl like BB and possibly sending 50 to 150 guys you don't know and can't vouchsafe for her way. Its one of the reasons I no longer post pictures of my girls on the public forum although I am willing to share and compare notes with certain like minded punters, like yourself whom I can trust, in private. There are just too many shit mongers lurking out there on the internet.

Anyway, this was a really good and informative post. I am glad to hear a viable new Go Go has risen from the ashes of the former RB4 even though the barfine has creeped up to 1000. RB4 always had very good talent, but the vibe was a little too business oriented for my taste and so I always took my time auditioning a potential new RB4 girl, many times requiring 2 auditions before I was confidant enough in the girl to barfine from here. I do not like girls that run back to the bar immediately after fun time. I prefer one customer a night Go Go girls who are in no hurry.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1933127]I agree with you for the most part but don't you miss the thrill of the hunt sometimes? I always like to mixx it up. For example today I went to Tulip and had a no holds barred PSE session with Dao. Next week, I will go on a 10 K date with a sideline girl, and next weekend, I will party in Nana. Mixx it up a little.[/QUOTE]Actually now not really. I enjoyed the hunt when I first moved here because finding something I liked was like shooting fish in a barrel. There were just so many gals and so many options; each night was a struggle to decide. Truth be told for me that started to change about '07 and really declined after the flood in '11. Now when I go hunting most of the time I end up empty handed. So I find it more frustrating than fun. I really don't have the patience or the want to hunt on the net, however the sites you posted are interesting. I have a gal I have lived with for a decade so I don't date and don't even take gals contact information. Just not a line I am going to cross. BKK worked very well for me for years when Suk was flush with WGs. Street gals, Thermae before the Japanese invasion, Nana Disco, and Cowboy before the Arab. Hell, I was at Midnight bar three times a week before he bought it. Place was great. 100 baht a drink, 500 baht BF that included an ST room upstairs, and 1 k to the gal. Could have a fabulous evening for about 50 USD or a little more. The longer I am here the less and less interested I am in "bargirl" conversation and interaction. Oilies work pretty well for me, but the talent has certainly slipped. And, yes, I could spend 3 k, 4 k, 10 k on these gals, but to me they are just not worth it. Most are still sub-50 USD screws at best. Skill set, looks, eroticism, just really not there. I'm with Tooms on this one. I'd rather go out for an amazing meal and then head home and have a wank. Jaded? Yes, but hey the scene has changed and after hundreds and hundreds of gals, I know what I like and it takes a bit to impress me.