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[QUOTE=Muffythediver]After some research it appears that it will be next to impossible to get a Tourist Visa for a 29 year old Filipina with very few assets and no real job to speak of. Am I right with this?[/QUOTE]
You are correct, the only way to get her in the U.S.A. would be a fiancee visa.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]You are correct, the only way to get her in the U.S.A. would be a fiancee visa.[/QUOTE]
Hmm.. interesting. My friend right now is currently in the process of trying to bring his GF from Cebu, Philippines to Hawaii on a Tourist Visa.
So, let's say the sponsor which is my friend here in Hawaii has the cash to sponsor her for a 2 week stay in Hawaii. He has to provide his current bank statement, passport copy, written letter etc. But, his GF who is the visitor, is currently going to school but, is not working right now. Now, based on her current situation, does that mean that the chances of him bringing her to Hawaii on a tourist visa will most likely not go through?
[quote=gogobarlover]hmm.. interesting. my friend right now is currently in the process of trying to bring his gf from cebu, philippines to hawaii on a tourist visa.
so, let's say the sponsor which is my friend here in hawaii has the cash to sponsor her for a 2 week stay in hawaii. he has to provide his current bank statement, passport copy, written letter etc. but, his gf who is the visitor, is currently going to school but, is not working right now. now, based on her current situation, does that mean that the chances of him bringing her to hawaii on a tourist visa will most likely not go through?[/quote]i had planned to bring my current gf to visit the us. if you read the us embassy website, they really don't care about funds here in the us, they even said on their own website that they probably wouldn't even look at the affidavit of support. they are concerned mostly about what ties her to the philippines and what will bring her back home. if she's traveled overseas before and went back home, that's much better. best thing for her is to own a home, have a good paying job, immediate family staying in philippines, or just anything that the embassy will see as making her come back home.
apparently, there's a loophole that they are aware of, that allows her to stay in the us if she arrives on a visitor's visa.
i think that's why you hear that "just about all" visitor's visas from philippines are denied. hardly anyone there that applies has anything of good value that keeps them tied to the philippines.
i've even decided to scrape the idea of my gf visiting based on what i've read from other sites as well, and just spend 2 weeks with her in cebu.
[QUOTE=Gogobarlover]Hmm. Interesting. My friend right now is currently in the process of trying to bring his GF from Cebu, Philippines to Hawaii on a Tourist Visa.
So, let's say the sponsor which is my friend here in Hawaii has the cash to sponsor her for a 2 week stay in Hawaii. He has to provide his current bank statement, passport copy, written letter etc. But, his GF who is the visitor, is currently going to school but, is not working right now. Now, based on her current situation, does that mean that the chances of him bringing her to Hawaii on a tourist visa will most likely not go through?[/QUOTE]She will not get one. They don't care about the sponsor. Its the tourist they are concerned about. They want to ensure that she will leave the country when her time is up. If she doesn't have a job and/or property. Why would they believe she would come back to the PI.
Without those she has zero chance of getting a tourist visa, if it would be that easy the bars would be half empty. Every monger would have a babe come back with them for 2 wks then kick her back and each year get another.come dude think about it.
[QUOTE=Gogobarlover]Hmm.. interesting. My friend right now is currently in the process of trying to bring his GF from Cebu, Philippines to Hawaii on a Tourist Visa.
So, let's say the sponsor which is my friend here in Hawaii has the cash to sponsor her for a 2 week stay in Hawaii. He has to provide his current bank statement, passport copy, written letter etc. But, his GF who is the visitor, is currently going to school but, is not working right now. Now, based on her current situation, does that mean that the chances of him bringing her to Hawaii on a tourist visa will most likely not go through?[/QUOTE]If he deposits about 100,000 US$, and / or buys a property under her name, then her chances multiply .. also the chance of her heading back to her kabayan lover increases exponentially ..
Then again - who am I to say about the chance of her heading back to her kabayan lover ?? (PS: enough filipina girls prefer to screw their countrymen over a rich old millionairre expat simply because they say making love to a filipino is very emotional - unlike screwing a foreigner .. )
[QUOTE=Gogobarlover]Hmm.. interesting. My friend right now is currently in the process of trying to bring his GF from Cebu, Philippines to Hawaii on a Tourist Visa.
So, let's say the sponsor which is my friend here in Hawaii has the cash to sponsor her for a 2 week stay in Hawaii. He has to provide his current bank statement, passport copy, written letter etc. But, his GF who is the visitor, is currently going to school but, is not working right now. Now, based on her current situation, does that mean that the chances of him bringing her to Hawaii on a tourist visa will most likely not go through?[/QUOTE]
I am surprised at the sponsorship part. My understanding of the US tourist visa process is that the embassy doesn't take sponsorship items into account at all. They assume every applicant is going TNT and so it is completely on the applicant to prove to the embassy that he or she will return to the Phils. This is because there is already a sizable population of illegal filipinos in the US. Successful criteria typically include business owner or other high level professional job, property owner, family dependents and last but not least, sizable "seasoned" funds in own bank account(s). As a result, it is extremely rare for anyone outside of the wealthy to get a tourist visa.
Long story short: your friend's girl isn't going to make the cut. Period. Don't waste the money on the application fee.
[QUOTE=Gogobarlover]Hmm.. interesting. My friend right now is currently in the process of trying to bring his GF from Cebu, Philippines to Hawaii on a Tourist Visa.
So, let's say the sponsor which is my friend here in Hawaii has the cash to sponsor her for a 2 week stay in Hawaii. He has to provide his current bank statement, passport copy, written letter etc. But, his GF who is the visitor, is currently going to school but, is not working right now. Now, based on her current situation, does that mean that the chances of him bringing her to Hawaii on a tourist visa will most likely not go through?[/QUOTE]
With 25 years of immigration experience, I'd tell you the odds are slim to none and slim just left town.
We mongers tend to dangle our rods in the lower, murkier, needier depths of the socio-economic fish pond, so it’s inevitable that sooner or later (sooner!), we’ll be hit up for money by a gal friend or acquaintance. It may be 5p for phone load, 500p for a bus ticket back to the province, 5000p for next month’s rent or 50,000 p for uncle Fernando’s gallstone surgery. Whatever the amount and whatever the reason, if we play here in the Philippines for any length of time, we will at some point be the recipient of that coy little teaser, ‘I’m shy to ask, and hope you not get angry, but I have problem and need a favor…’
No doubt we have all worked out our own ways of dealing with this inevitability that works, more or less. It might be a strict policy of ‘never under any circumstances’, or a more flexible ‘case by case’ approach. Whatever tack we take, it will be based on a combination of our personality traits, our transitory mood, our current financial situation, our ‘relationship’ with the gal, and our level of horniness—not necessarily in that order.
I tend to be a bit soft-hearted, to the point where I can easily allow myself to be guilt-tripped into forking over loot to a gal for rather specious reasons. I have also been known to foolishly (in moments of raging testosterone) delegate my financial decision-making to my pecker—which usually costs me dearly. So, I’ve come up with a set of ‘money rules’ I can apply to my gals-in-need that work (more or less) for me. They aren’t by any means full-proof, and I do occasionally have to revise, or even sidestep them, but in general they do get me by and keep me (relatively) sane and solvent. Here they are:
1) I never (Never!) send money in any form to a gal I have not yet met in person.
*Believe it or not (Of course you believe it, this is PI!), I sometimes get hit up for money (usually phone pasaload) by DIA gals with whom I’ve exchanged a few messages (and phone numbers), but have not yet met. I always ignore their request—no matter how fuckable the gal looks in her profile pic. I figure that if they’re asking me for a hand-out this early in our, er, relationship, meeting them in person can only be trouble. When in doubt, I remind myself of the well-worn adage, ‘There is nothing more expensive than free sex.’
2) If I send a gal (I’ve already met!) money or phone load, I’ll never do it again unless she had quickly sent me a sincere-sounding ‘thank you’ text for the loan or load I sent her last time.
*Call me old-fashioned, but to me failing to show appreciation for a loan or gift (no matter how small) is unacceptable. When feeling too sympathetic, I remind myself that rich or poor, there are already enough ungrateful spoiled brats in this world.
3) I never lend money to a gal who still owes me money from a previous loan.
*Fairly simple thinking here: don’t throw good money after bad. If a gal asks me for money when she still owes me from last time, I just tell her that I would be willing to help her after she pays me back what she owes me.
4) When a gal asks me for money, I force her to clarify whether she expects it to be a loan or a gift, and if a loan, when she expects to pay me back.
*In my experience the gals almost always say something like, ‘it’s a loan, I promise to pay you back.’ However, when I ask them when they will pay me back, they usually get a bit vague… ‘maybe next month’, or ‘when I get my next salary’, or ‘after I get a job’. I understand their financial difficulties, really, but I tell them, ‘that’s not good enough. I want us to fix a date for you to pay me back. You tell me when you really think you can do it.’ It’s tough for them, I know, but as far as I’m concerned they’re getting an interest free loan and I want them to take some responsibility for doing their share to make it go smoothly for both of us.
5) When I lend or give a gal money, I ask her to tell me in detail what she is going to use it for. I don’t accept answers like ‘for medicine’, ‘for bus ticket’, ‘for my younger brother’s education’. I want to know exactly what medicine, how much it costs, where they will buy it, what the exact bus fare is, what school the brother is attending, etc.
*Once again, I want them to take some responsibility and make some effort. I don’t want them to think it is just a matter of they ask and I give. I also figure that they can't possibly know how much they actually need from me unless they have the details I ask for. And, of course, I don’t want to be duped. If they can’t be specific enough to satisfy me (or put enough effort into concocting a good story), I tell them to go get the information I want and then come back and ask me again. Harsh? Yes. But, hey, why should I take more risk than I need to.
6) If at all possible, I try to provide the end product or service myself, rather than simply provide the money.
*I guess this is my cynical side coming out, but once again, as much as I might trust the gal, I don’t necessarily trust her family, friends or secret Filipino boyfriend. I have seen ‘my son’s medicine’ money end up to be papa’s beer money! So, if my gal needs medicine for a family member, I prefer her to tell me the name of the medicine, the brand, the amount, etc. and, if possible, I will buy it and give it, or send it, to her. If it’s not possible, I tell her in advance that I will want to see a receipt for what she bought or I will never lend her money again.
OK, here are a few recent personal ‘Case Studies’ which have forced me to put my 'money rules' into action:
Jessica
We briefly dated around 6 months ago, but I decided she was far too possessive for me, so we’re now just friends. A few months ago she lost her job and needed money for paperwork for a new contract. I lent her 2000p using the conditions above. She paid me back fully on time. Then a month later she needed another 1500p for rent. I lent it to her with the agreement that she would pay me back at the beginning of July. Then yesterday, she texted me to say her grandfather died and she wanted to go back to her province for his funeral and needed 4000p. I texted back, ‘sorry to hear that, my condolences, I’ll help u after u pay me back the 1500p u owe me’. She immediately got back to me, ‘I have it now, lets meet and I give it to u.’ So, we met this morning, she handed me the 1500p, and then I gave it back to her with 1500p more—but not before I made her tell me exactly what form of transportation she was going to use, where she was going, what the fare was, and when she would pay me back. From what she told me, I agreed to lend her only 3000p, and she agreed to pay me back by Aug 1st.
Gloria
We met about 3 months ago in Puerto Galera where she was on vacation with a few friends (ok, ok, I admit it, a semi-freelancer). Very sweet, lovely gal who has never asked me for money before, not even for taxi fares when she visits me (though I force her to take it). A few weeks ago, we’re at my place, curled up on the sofa after a great two hour bonk session, when she fidgets a bit, clears her throat, and launches into the ‘I’m shy to ask, and hope you don’t get angry, but I hope you can do me a favor…’. She tells me it is her nephew’s last semester of his HRM course, that she has a responsibility to help him pay the tuition but it is 8,000p, she only has 3,500p, and it must be paid in the next two weeks. I am tempted to just fork over the 4500p on the spot, but I stop and tell myself to follow my own rules. So, I ask her the name of the school, the exact title of the course, the name of her nephew and the exact date by which the tuition must be paid. Then I tell her that I’m happy to help her, so I want her to write down for me all the information, including the address of the school (in QC), and to give me the 3,500p she has for the tuition, and that I will then be happy to go (on my own or with her and her nephew) to the school and pay the tuition. She looks a bit shell-shocked at my instructions, and mumbles that she will try to get me all the info I need. I smile and tell her I think she is wonderful for supporting her nephew’s education. Meanwhile, it is now three weeks later and she has not mentioned her nephew’s tuition again, and neither have I. Hmmmm….
Nita
We’ve known each other many years, never dated or been romantically involved, just good friends. I’ve helped her out financially a couple of times in the past, always with the understanding that it was a gift, not a loan. She is now living in province (Bicol) but we are in frequent text contact. Last week, she texted me to say the children in her kid’s school are having a hard time coz their classroom has no fan and they can’t concentrate due to the heat. I ask her how much a fan costs and she tells me 1500p-2000p. I tell her I will send 2000p (by LBC) but I need her to give me the name and phone number of the teacher or principal, and the name and address of the school first. I also tell her that after they buy the fan, she needs to send me the receipt so I can use it for tax purposes (a white lie as I really just don’t want to sound suspicious—which actually I am not!). She says that’s fine, and texts me all the info I need. Then, just before I am about to go and send the money, I get a text from her saying, ‘hope I catch u in time, no need to buy fan coz new elected vice-mayor gave da school a new fan 2day. thank u so much anyway.’ Hmmmm, happy ending, I guess.
LJ
I met her about 6 months ago when she was working at one of the bars on Burgos. Lovely, outgoing, funny gal with a voluptuous mouth and the kind of slim, tight, angular body that drives me nuts. Since then we have seen each other 4 or 5 times, and are in regular text contact. She quit her job about four months ago, and started working in a factory in Mandaluyong. Tough to make ends meet with a factory job and family pressures, so about three months ago she asked me for 2500p coz her sister had an appendicitis attack and needed urgent medical attention which her family could not fully pay for. I wanted to take care of buying the medicines myself, but my work schedule was tight at the time, so I (foolishly?) just gave her the money after getting all the details I could. She insisted it was a ‘loan’ and would pay me back within two months. Then about a month ago she went back to province for family stuff but still kept in fairly regular text contact. About two weeks ago she started texting more urgently telling me she wanted to go back to Manila to her factory job but didn’t have the money for the ticket, and could I help her with 1000p. I was firm and said, that I would help her after she paid me back the 2500p she owed me. Then more urgent texts from her, pleading and promising to pay me back everything (3500p) by the end of July if I would only help her this time. Hmmmm, what to do? I was about to text her to say ‘sorry, I will only help you after you pay me back’, when I started thinking about those lusciously full lips wrapped around my throbbing, rock hard cock, and those smooth, slender, brown thighs spread wide open to reveal her silky, shiny, glistening, fully shaved pussy. And I caved. Yep, I texted her back and said I would send her the 1000p that day.
Damn, and I thought these fucking rules were so damn clever. Well, I did say they weren’t full proof. So, back to the drawing board!
Manta Ray
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]With 25 years of immigration experience, I'd tell you the odds are slim to none and slim just left town.[/QUOTE]ha ha .. I would wholeheartedly agree with you .. next to slim ..
Though, I know filipinos have their own channels, such as applying for Bahamas, and applying on Cruise lines .. and so and so .. approx 5,000 US$ should fix it - it seems - though how much of that goes to the 'family benevolent fund' - I have no clue.
[QUOTE=Manta Ray]Damn, and I thought these fucking rules were so damn clever. Well, I did say they weren’t full proof. So, back to the drawing board!
Manta Ray[/QUOTE]
I have a much simpler approach that I've been very happy with: I never loan money to a Filipino.
I'll give them a gift, or I will help them in non-monetary ways. But no loans, no headaches, no regrets. Once I hand over money, I count it gone.
But that is just me.
Hi,
I've read that before leaving the country must pay departure tax fee.... 750 Php....
Anyone know if there is correct ?.
Thanks.....
[QUOTE=Mastorr]Hi,
I've read that before leaving the country must pay departure tax fee.... 750 Php....
Anyone know if there is correct ?.
Thanks.....[/QUOTE]It was and is 750 peso - but don't tell me you plan to land in the aiport peso-less ?? Scary ..
I normally tuck in atleast 2,000 or 3,000 in case there is a flight delay or I need to re-fill my tummy.
[QUOTE=Mastorr]Hi,
I've read that before leaving the country must pay departure tax fee.... 750 Php....
Anyone know if there is correct ?.
Thanks.....[/QUOTE]
sound about right for International flight. Domestic is about
200 peso each flight.
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]sound about right for International flight. Domestic is about
200 peso each flight.[/QUOTE]Domestic flights are dependant upon the aiport - I flew out of an airport where my tax was 20 peso and into another one, from where the departure tax was 40 peso, and onto Manila Domestic - and from Manila Domestic to another domestic cost me 200 peso.
Its 750 php payable at the first checkpoint you get to for international flights. As I always return home with pesos, I take 750 and fold it up and put it in the back of my wallet for the departure tax on the next trip.