Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2536851]There were not people from all over the world, it was brits and others from within EU. People from high risk locations were supposed to quarantine. When more data about the UK variant came out they panicked and wanted to quarantine the brits but a lot of them just went back home.

The quarantining for people from high risk locations applies to some regions in France too, but I hear some were ignoring that. They were traveling to Switzerland anyway claiming that covid can't possibly infect them since they cycle. Sagan must be really weak if he caught covid.[/QUOTE]Check much better, not only Europeans or UK in Saint Moritz and Davos, and I doubt others stayed in quarantine, from how they seemed to enjoy free life there. I was just on transit to brothels, never met any Swiss out of brothels, on 2020, and no visit on this year, when I would have felt really very guilty if amazing Wengen Lauberhorn was cancelled because of me, when cluster there after Christmas, more than 1 month after my last time entering Switzerland.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2536963]Documentary from [URL]RT.com[/URL] about prostitution in Germany during Covid lockdowns.

[URL]https://youtu.be/A71NrNtzxb0[/URL]

Although it was uploaded on the 16th of February 2021, some footage appears to be a bit older and from September-October as there is some mentioning of "November" and "December."

Nevertheless IMHO the outlook is still dire: bankrupt brothels and FKK clubs, and WGs and customers forced into illegality.

Technocrats like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates and Angela Merkel (all childless by the way) will love it: no more small and independent businesses, not more independent WGs, no more reproducing 'evil' humans ("save the planet" and "build back better" and all this bla bla), and only digital sex via the internet only. [URL]https://youtu.be/YkcaeaD45MY[/URL].

Welcome to Agenda 2030, where "you'll own nothing and will be happy." It's not a 'tin-foil hat' conspiracy theory, it's right on their own WEF website while the billionaires travel the world in their fuel-guzzling private jets and limousines and rent out the thing they now own and that you need: [URL]https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/[/URL].

Hitler, Stalin and Marx would have been proud of Merkel, Schwab, Blair, Gates, and all those fascist globalists![/QUOTE]Don't forget about the Gates vaccine that turns everyone into sexless robots! Yes the outlook is quite dire for those bankrupt brothels and FKK clubs, and WGs and customers forced into illegality. How will the brothel survive when they were making more in a month than any small and independent business can dream of making in a year.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2536963]Technocrats like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates and Angela Merkel (all childless by the way) [/QUOTE]Klaus Schwab has 2 children, Bill Gates has 3. Even you could find this if you would care just a little bit about facts instead of trolling.

Even you can do better, little troll.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2536796]Guessing the majority of the people on the slopes were Swiss yet Switzerland never saw a Christmas ski bump.

Anecdotes versus data. Educated men make conclusions using data. The data discredits your assumptions.[/QUOTE]Look at data for famous Wengen in Bern kanton on mid January and ask them why they cancelled their main event of the year. Why many Swiss kantons are under strict lockdown since months? Because everything is fine in Switzerland? Real facts which happened, but you don't know anything about Switzerland more than your data which are only average, but Germany forbade their citizens to go to ski in Switzerland, same for France, must be a reason, same like WGs choosing me first in brothels. Why do you think Germany and Spain are forbidding UK? Because of Brexit? Because they don't like pasta with orange jam? Because this is better for business, when Germany pay tests for French workers working in Germany, to make their business keep going.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2536854]Please inspire us, post some Strava files.[/QUOTE]Ask your doctor if being fit sporty don't help for strong health and I invite you above Martigny up to Gran San Bernardino, best part being after tunnel, with 9% average for 4 last kilometers which are above 2000 meters high, this really clean lungs and no virus there. Not changing my way of life, even job is much more complicated about safety and administration, kissed so many girls but didn't feel anything bad.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2536985]Of course you will get herd immunity but against which variant, probably not against the new one, like all the viruses covid 19 is mutating a lot like for the normal flue the vaccines are always late. The WHO told yesterday life will not return to normal in 2021 may be even 22. All those debates remain me about the story of HIV, we were promised vaccines, treatments. In fact it took many years to get some solutions like tri therapies.[/QUOTE]Biontech, Moderna, AZ, J&J are all effective against UK variant.

Biontech, Moderna and J&J are effective against SA variant. AZ is less effective against SA variant, but still protects against severe illness.

The CEO of Biontech said that they can develop a vaccine for a new variant in six weeks. Then you need the time for trials and approvals, but it won't take many years. If a new mutant spreads globally you might need a booster shot next year.

Plus, keep in mind that neutralizing antibodies is just one component of the immune response, there are also T cells, memory be cells.

With regards HIV, there was much less money invested compared to Covid, maybe because for a long time it was believed that HIV affects only junkies and gays and it was the 80's. Number of deaths in US peaked around 40 000 early 90's and went in a few years under 10 000 per year. Much smaller problem.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2537011]I'm afraid that FKK clubs will not reopen in 2021.[/QUOTE]A few are open in Switzerland even now. When the number of cases go low enough they will open in Austria and Germany too.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2537011]the vaccinating campaigns in most of the EU states are a big mess and are hopelessly behind schedule. [/QUOTE]There are 55 000 Hausärzte in Germany. Early Easter the Hausärzte start with vaccinations too, not just the Impfzentren. As long as enough vaccine is delivered from the producers they can vaccinate most people by September.

Now stop squirming and I'll jab that needle in your arm.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2537021]If you knew her better, you would know she works less than 90 days in Switzerland, when I had only 2 rooms with her on her arrival day at Bruggen on a end of May 2015 Sunday, and she was always welcoming really lovely after, even I couldn't anymore.[/QUOTE]See, this is why people don't believe you. Whenever you post something that can be verified you fall on your very long nose, Pinocchio.

Have you seen the paperwork that WGs need to file before starting to work? Because I have. They need to register before working the first day.

If they work more than 90 days they need to apply for a work permit.

If they are from EU they can work without a work permit for up to 90 days, but they still need to register.

Please read FZA; SR 0. 142.112. 681.

I guess it's easier if you just make things up.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2536975]I took part in la Marmotte some years ago, finished it.[/QUOTE]Marmotte is fucking insane.

Glandon, Telegraph, Galibier and Alpe the'Huez in one day? Too much for me.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2537011]FKK clubs will be at the bottom of the list in case of any reopening of the economy as it's seen as "seedy and dirty" (not exactly helpful during a 'pandemic') and because it's also regarded as entertainment, it simply has a very low priority.[/QUOTE]People, look, a valid paragraph. Maybe there is hope.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2537048]Biontech, Moderna, AZ, J&J are all effective against UK variant.

Biontech, Moderna and J&J are effective against SA variant. AZ is less effective against SA variant, but still protects against severe illness.

The CEO of Biontech said that they can develop a vaccine for a new variant in six weeks. Then you need the time for trials and approvals, but it won't take many years. If a new mutant spreads globally you might need a booster shot next year.

Plus, keep in mind that neutralizing antibodies is just one component of the immune response, there are also T cells, memory be cells.

With regards HIV, there was much less money invested compared to Covid, maybe because for a long time it was believed that HIV affects only junkies and gays and it was the 80's. Number of deaths in US peaked around 40 000 early 90's and went in a few years under 10 000 per year. Much smaller problem.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you say here. But here's the rub: the USA is going to open up, balls to the walls, with the Pfizer Moderna J&J trifecta. Mutant strains be damned. Like you said, the T cells will save the day, not the antibodies. People are going to get the J&J and they are going to get sick with CoronaVirus anyway. And then it's going to be over here. Remember, so far it least, J&J protects you from dying. That's all the lockdown-weary Americans are asking for at this point. Shooting out of my ass a bit here but we'll soon find out one way or the other.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2536943]Bold statement you make there.

I have no problem with people taking vitamin_D supplements. You would need to chug quite a few to overdose. But I don't think it can solve the current issue.[/QUOTE]VitaminD helps immunity by promoting immune cell binding to various mediators of the immune response, nothing new here. The primary determinants of COVID outcome however are chronic comorbities such as diabetes, heart disease, cardiovascular disease, and renal disease. Those have very little to do with VitaminD deficiency. So while VitaminD does help with ward of some infections from overwhelming the immune response, it is by far the most important determinant of COVID outcomes.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2537048]Plus, keep in mind that neutralizing antibodies is just one component of the immune response, there are also T cells, memory be cells.

With regards HIV, there was much less money invested compared to Covid, maybe because for a long time it was believed that HIV affects only junkies and gays and it was the 80's. Number of deaths in US peaked around 40 000 early 90's and went in a few years under 10 000 per year. Much smaller problem.[/QUOTE]Just a little input, Tcells and Bcells work together as part the antibody response. Primary job of Memory Bcells is to quickly mount the antibody response. TCells work to help stimulate the BCells and also as effector cells. The most effective objective of both are to eventually produce an antibody response. TCells in themselves are very inefficient without antibodies to target the microbe or infected cells.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2537031]Look at data for famous Wengen in Bern kanton on mid January and ask them why they cancelled their main event of the year. Why many Swiss kantons are under strict lockdown since months? Because everything is fine in Switzerland? Real facts which happened, but you don't know anything about Switzerland more than your data which are only average, but Germany forbade their citizens to go to ski in Switzerland, same for France, must be a reason, same like WGs choosing me first in brothels. Why do you think Germany and Spain are forbidding UK? Because of Brexit? Because they don't like pasta with orange jam? Because this is better for business, when Germany pay tests for French workers working in Germany, to make their business keep going.[/QUOTE]Wengen events happened around January 10th. No uptick in Western European cases (except France's steady incline since December) until mid to late February. Math doesn't add up.

Eastern Europe began to see uptick in cases in late January. Math still does not add up. But if we are extremely generous with incubation periods, the British variant would have been brought to Switzerland at the beginning of January, brought to Eastern Europe with an unusually long incubation period, then spread back to Western Europe. What are the chances that richer residents of France, Germany, Italy, Netherland going skiing in expensive Switzerland and not bringing back the virus variant but the poorer residents of Eastern Europe going to rich ski resorts in Switzerland and bringing it back to Eastern Europe, only to spread it back to Western Europe.

Quite statistically unlikely and would be case against Occam's Razor. But think as you wish.