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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1934748]
Anyway, I quickly spied a young, tall-ish, light skinned, lovely figured, leggy (very good), small natural no kids breasts cutie (no pantyhose) walking by, caught her attention, and she came to me where I was sitting. She began her "lapdance" bit, showing off and applying her well-shaped butt as much as possible. I bought her a ladydrink and chatted her up, being playful with her and the waitresses nearby. Within 10 minutes of mostly sexual playfulness and very little discussion about it, the deal was struck. I asked her how much was the barfine here, already knowing it was 1000 baht, which she confirmed. I didn't ask, but she followed up with "and 2,000 to me, makes it only 3,000 baht!" That was 1000 baht less than what the two waitresses had said all the girls "get" just a few days earlier. And this night it had more customers than on my two previous visits.

She would easily have been one of the more in-demand 2,500+ ST girls in Crazy House's heyday. So that cancelled out the bite of the 1000 baht barfine and then some, imo. No games or tricks in my apartment. No rush. She wasn't watching the clock and neither did I but she must have been there for almost two hours. I was pleased with what transpired and would repeat.[/QUOTE]Yes I can confirm that the prices of the girls are not fixed and vary depending on the girl, and what she thinks she can get from the customer.

I won't be asking a pantyhose girl for a fuck, to test the theory, unless of course she happens to be my choice anyway, which is less likely. I saw very few pantyhose girls in total on my last visit. My eyesight is deteriorating at my age (long sighted), so I normally have to look for the mesh covering the girls toes to be absolutely sure since some hose are very sheer and not necessarily a strange colour. If girls toes are not exposed I may have to get quite close (with glasses on) to be sure. I preferred to be located on the right side anyway (very little panty hose if any that side). More my style of girls. Last visit I started on the left side and soon moved to the right side, once I saw the right side talent was better for me including topless girls.

I guess Crazy House Hey Day was 2 to 3 years ago. Not many new girls there are interesting me at all, and almost all my favourites seem to be gone, or attending extremely rarely. It is rumoured that when Old Dutch lease expires, Crazy House will expand into there, but I detect a drop in their business corresponding to deterioration of the line up, and introduction of ugly shows downstairs. So the expansion could easily be a failure. They need to think of back to basics. Gorgeous girls. Level of surgeries is getting too high. Surgeries loving guys will be probably preferring Baccara or Rainbow 4 IMHO. However not all Japanese guys want that. Some even take tan skin in the Thermae. Crazy House is not attracting the same lookers that are in Twisters now. That is why Twisters is starting to be packed after only 4 months. Simply some quality girls. Its a better line up than I ever saw at RB4, IMHO, in terms of some naturally good looks. I think the management of CH has got too complacent thinking they know best, instead of finding out what the customers really want. Certainly not the ugly shows with ugly girls performing them. I may done with CH for the time being. Which ever places have the best girls will pull me. Right now that maybe be Twisters and Billboard. Never would have thought I would be drawn back to Nana. Twisters is well in front of Billboard for me, for both face beauty and for lighting to be able to see them. Billboard girls have good bodies but can't tell easily that faces may not be so fabulous due to very dim lighting. If I still have my 21 YO eyesight, may be no problem. I don't like Twisters music. DJ is doing too modern disco stuff, not really "music" as such.

Twisters is only going 4 months. Not long. I had a waitress of only 2 days at twisters. Obviously not all waitresses are highly experienced and highly knowledgeable about what goes on. When seeking opinions from the staff, we have to assume they are stories/guesses. Only when we starting getting the same story from everyone in there, can we start to assume the stories may have some basis in fact. As you point out ET, theories cannot easily be proven to be always true, but can only be refuted by finding a counterexample, e.g. find the pantyhose girl that is definitely up for a fuck. It's not a big deal for me. I know there are girls who don't fuck, and one of them did not have pantyhose. Even if it happens that 90% of pantyhose girls do not fuck, it won't be of great consequence since I did not even find any pantyhose girls especially attracting me. When I do find one, I can ask her. Meanwhile if pantyhose is upsetting, just ignore those girls. I am far more interested in the quality of the girl's nose, mouth, tits, and ass, tummy, than whether she has pantyhose on, although pantyhose can spoil the looks of the legs, I can admit.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1934654]Wandered into Thermae last night about 11:30 PM. What a horror show. The Japanese were horse racing around the track and there were more plastic surgery disasters then I could imagine. One gal had her nose reduced to nothing and was so botoxed out she looked like an alien. And these gals are demanded 2 K plus?[/QUOTE]Friday night. After tiring of the lineup at CH, with the intention of checking out NEP, I stopped by Thermae. Entered through the back stairs and spotted a girl in the back corner. Cleavage was popping out from a distance and she flashed a smile, so I make a round, grabbed a drink and headed back. As I made the circle, quite a few smiles from some, but nothing to keep me from circling back to the corner.

To make a long story short, it was a quick chat and we were on our way out. I wasn't going to pay the Ruamchitt ST fee, so we walked over to Miami. Full. So flagged a taxi and went to Asoke Place. Back in the room she revealed a package as good as anything I might have gotten at CH. Light smooth skin with no tattoos, taller, braces, well proportioned busty (she said enhanced, but the feeling was totally natural for me), zero body fat, charming nice smile. Service was good, but nothing earth-shattering. Affectionate slow BBBJ with long stroke licking. Her pink love box was a joy to DATY and she warmed up and juiced up nicely before climaxing. Then joy inside her tight love box before I had mine. Afterwards she was off to Rachada to play with her friends.

YMMV, but Thermae delivered a smile in this case for me. Worth more exploration. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1934499]Where is your experience with black girls? Anywhere is not very specific. I never had any problem with them in Germany or Portugal, in terms of trying to rip me off. Don't identify at all with the non stop talk about money. Is this a Thailand problem?[/QUOTE]Personally my only experience with black girls was in South Africa and Dubai, and I didn't hold to the saying as I "went back" to my LBFM / Yellow Fever targets. I never had any issue with black girls per-se, just the nappy snatches and musky scent was generally unattractive. The only thing I liked was doing facials for a nice ebony and ivory contrast.

In BKK I find that the black girls are a migratory pack. I have spotted them in groups way up Soi 4 down to Terminal 21. The most common spots have been in the street bars of Soi 7 and lately very frequently under the crossbridge in front of the Westin / Robinsons at Soi 19. They range from lumbering rhicocerous-assed mamas to lithe sexy impalas. When I see them, although they seem quite friendly enough (one approached politely saying "May I say Hello, to you? There is something that I am just not interested enough to stop and kibitz, so I can't comment from experience.

I have seen them also going on Craigslist (see a recent ad [URL]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/cas/5763758635.html[/URL]) and WeChat (if you are in Asoke / Nana, just do a People Nearby search) recently. I have also seen an pimp / agent-type setup on Facebook (search "African Women in Bangkok" The CL girl also appears on the FB page I believe. So if you are into this segment of working girls, check out and report. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1934499]Where is your experience with black girls? Anywhere is not very specific. I never had any problem with them in Germany or Portugal, in terms of trying to rip me off. Don't identify at all with the non stop talk about money. Is this a Thailand problem?[/QUOTE]My experience is from US, Germany, Italy and Norway, but as said my experience is limited. US is a different story, but the girls I've sampled in Europe were all African, Ghana and thereabouts and I assume the black girls in Thailand are too, although I shall not presume to know if their behavior is different. My statistics are not in their favor, that's why I stay away.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1934748]Still, it seemed to me the same lineup of Sweet Young Things on that side wearing pantyhose that I'd seen on previous visits were not being called down or seen walking out with a customer during the half hour or so I spent in there. Maybe the customers are on to something about them despite the waitress once telling me they were available for barfine just like the rest. I didn't interview any of them this time myself. This pantyhose = no go / no sex issue has been circulating around message boards like this one for some time now, many months at least if not over a year, but I have yet to read a field report roundly refuting it. As in something like, "Oh no! I barfined one of those hot pantyhose wearing cuties at so-and-so go-go bar just last night and she provided everything one could reasonably want and expect from a go-go dancer ST!" Never read it online or heard it directly from a trusted punter. Maybe Twister is the exception and where new ground will be broken on such a field report.[/QUOTE]Some years ago, I would alternate between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza whenever I felt going for a Go-Go night, but the last few years there seem to be too many of those coyotes around Nana, so I practically stopped going there. Of course you can find girls to take away (it IS Bangkok...), but I find it rather demotivating to see a crowd of beauties dancing, but knowing you can only get fun from any less attractive girl in the bar. Quite a turn off really. I want to be able to pick the girl I find the most attractive in a Go-Go bar. So nowadays I stick to CH, Tilac and other well-known places.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1934762]Surgeries loving guys will be probably preferring Baccara or Rainbow 4 IMHO. However not all Japanese guys want that. Some even take tan skin in the Thermae. Crazy House is not attracting the same lookers that are in Twisters now. That is why Twisters is starting to be packed after only 4 months. Simply some quality girls. Its a better line up than I ever saw at RB4, IMHO, in terms of some naturally good looks. I think the management of CH has got too complacent thinking they know best, instead of finding out what the customers really want. Certainly not the ugly shows with ugly girls performing them. I may done with CH for the time being. Which ever places have the best girls will pull me. Right now that maybe be Twisters and Billboard. Never would have thought I would be drawn back to Nana. Twisters is well in front of Billboard for me, for both face beauty and for lighting to be able to see them. Billboard girls have good bodies but can't tell easily that faces may not be so fabulous due to very dim lighting. If I still have my 21 YO eyesight, may be no problem. I don't like Twisters music. DJ is doing too modern disco stuff, not really "music" as such.
[/QUOTE]Those looking for small, cute, very young types might want to check out the "downstairs" (2nd Floor, at the top of the escalator) Mandarin Bar. The place was packed with them Saturday night. I thought many of the girls were adorable. They have the same two tier barfine system as the upstairs Mandarin, 1,500 baht for "Special" girls vs 700 baht for the rest. If the "Special" designation provides the same satisfying results (to me) in this bar as the upstairs bar I might have to indulge soon. Biggest turn off though was the girls in this bar exhibited the most aggressive ladydrink pressure I have experienced in a long time. They come at you in groups, hop on your lap, start lobbying for it right away.

Understandably, for many that is a total deal killer for even sitting in a bar. But I was able to fend them off easily enough, use it to demonstrate and establish what to expect or not to expect from me when I walk in again (if they even remember) and am willing to chalk it up to the fact that they had very few customers in there and incomes were probably suffering. A vicious cycle, of course. Maybe one of the reasons there were few customers in there to begin with was the heavy ladydrink pressure.

That said, I have to say there was a ton of ladydrink pressure going on at Twister Bar last Saturday night, too. And not just from the girls on stage and circling past the booths and tables between sets but from the waitresses as well. And there were a LOT of hands stuck out at check bin payment time requesting tips. I smiled and left a reasonable tip in the tray, that's all, as I waited for my girl to change into her street clothes.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1934810]Light smooth skin with no tattoos, taller, braces, well proportioned busty (she said enhanced, but the feeling was totally natural for me), zero body fat, charming nice smile.
[/QUOTE]The Thai doctors have a way of doing breast enhancement that is just incredibly better than anywhere else. Many of the top dancers have enhancements and you can't tell because they have a natural look. They have a beautiful hang and feel very soft (if you get to touch them). I can usually tell if they're enhanced if I get them in the room but otherwise I couldn't tell in their sexy outfits. Kudos to the breast doctors in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1934981]Some years ago, I would alternate between Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza whenever I felt going for a Go-Go night, but the last few years there seem to be too many of those coyotes around Nana, so I practically stopped going there. Of course you can find girls to take away (it IS Bangkok...), but I find it rather demotivating to see a crowd of beauties dancing, but knowing you can only get fun from any less attractive girl in the bar. Quite a turn off really. I want to be able to pick the girl I find the most attractive in a Go-Go bar. So nowadays I stick to CH, Tilac and other well-known places.[/QUOTE]Really? My impression over the past few years has been the percentage of no-go Coyotes is much greater in Soi Cowboy than in Nana Plaza. But I am counting the pantyhose wearing girls lined up outside the bars on Soi Cowboy and not dancing on stage inside the bars.

Of the several dozen times a pantyhose wearing Coyote has hooked her arm in mine and tried to drag me into the bar on Soi Cowboy to start buying ladydrinks over the past year or two, not one time has one of them ever said, "Yes, you pay barfine and I go with you!" when I have asked if they go with customers. And I always ask just for fun and to see if the no-go pantyhose Coyote system has changed. It hasn't as far as I can tell. Not on Soi Cowboy that is.

I sat outside at a table with a friend for more than an hour last night and we both were checking out the Coyote behavior up and down the soi on each side of our table. First of all, very few punters allow themselves to get pulled into the bars by those girls anyway. And when they did, the pantyhose wearing girl came right back out to her station within minutes, obviously having handed her mark off to a real barfinable go-go dancer inside or perhaps after taking one sip of the ladydrink he bought for her and then excusing herself to go back to her job of luring the next sucker into the bar.

I don't see that happening nearly as much in Nana Plaza as in Soi Cowboy.

[QUOTE=Socker;1935069]The Thai doctors have a way of doing breast enhancement that is just incredibly better than anywhere else. Many of the top dancers have enhancements and you can't tell because they have a natural look. They have a beautiful hang and feel very soft (if you get to touch them). I can usually tell if they're enhanced if I get them in the room but otherwise I couldn't tell in their sexy outfits. Kudos to the breast doctors in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I too have often been perplexed at how good they are compared to Western boob jobs. What do they do that is so different? Some of these knockers feel so good to the touch that they are actually better than most real big boobs.

I talked to a girl of mine that has a particularly lovely pair and she said the procedure she underwent is super intensive. She was not allowed to drink alcohol for 6 months after.

[QUOTE=Socker;1935069]The Thai doctors have a way of doing breast enhancement that is just incredibly better than anywhere else. Many of the top dancers have enhancements and you can't tell because they have a natural look. They have a beautiful hang and feel very soft (if you get to touch them). I can usually tell if they're enhanced if I get them in the room but otherwise I couldn't tell in their sexy outfits. Kudos to the breast doctors in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. I don't see anything special about the quality of the boob jobs in Thailand. Not sure which countries have worse boob jobs? Girls I have seen topless in Europe are no better no worse. I think its purely dependent on the particular girl, whether she goes for overly exaggerated or subtle job. Sure you my not be able to tell if tits hare encased in a thick hard bra and top, but you can still suspect and still tell easily if a girl is topless in 95% of cases. Natural look? I am not really seeing that in the gogos with topless girls. I hardly take enhanced tits. Occasionally if a very good job or girl has some other amazing qualities. I never ever took a girl with silly-cones from Crazy House for example. Just wasn't necessary with other options.

There are occasions when I see a girl topless where I a not 100% sure if tits are real or fake. That usually means they are real, but just a little bit suspiciously high.

I really am not seeing these so called fabulous boob jobs. Or maybe I see them but do not touch them, and I just don't know how good they supposedly are to touch. I am almost always taking very soft tits, and often quite small tits. If larger they have to bounce, swing, and shimmer to be considered. If they just sit there still not moving and have convex upper curve, then they are definitely fake and I don't take them.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1935070]Really? My impression over the past few years has been the percentage of no-go Coyotes is much greater in Soi Cowboy than in Nana Plaza. But I am counting the pantyhose wearing girls lined up outside the bars on Soi Cowboy and not dancing on stage inside the bars.
[/QUOTE]It purely depends on which bars you go to. If you ruled out the Arab's bars in Cowboy then there would be relatively few Coyotes in Cowboy. Surely no one knows the percentages. Plenty of Cowboy bars have either no Coyotes or a small number of them. Tilac probably has 50% Coyote outfits. However they do not dance as Coyotes, and I did not ask if they were Coyotes or not.

I haven't done a survey of every bar in Cowboy and Nana so I could not possibly say which place is dominated by Coyotes the most. It is certainly on the rise in both locations. I have been in Suckers bar this year but cannot even remember if they had Coyotes or not, but I did not like it. I also did not like Bangkok Bunnies bar. Other bars visited in Nana all had Coyotes.

I have visited several bars in Cowboy with either no Coyotes or very minimal Coyotes like Doll House. So it just depends on which bars you go to. No point in going to the Arab's bars.

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1934968]My experience is from US, Germany, Italy and Norway, but as said my experience is limited. US is a different story, but the girls I've sampled in Europe were all African, Ghana and thereabouts and I assume the black girls in Thailand are too, although I shall not presume to know if their behavior is different. My statistics are not in their favor, that's why I stay away.[/QUOTE]The black girls and semi-black girls in Europe have been pretty damn good overall, coming from Ghana, Kenya, Dom Rep, Jamaica, Brazil, Puerto Rico, etc. More reliable than the white girls. Maybe I just went to the right place to find good ones, being FKK. Only a limited percentage were pretty enough to interest me. I am quite picky.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1935063] Biggest turn off though was the girls in this bar exhibited the most aggressive ladydrink pressure I have experienced in a long time. They come at you in groups, hop on your lap, start lobbying for it right away.
[/QUOTE]Have to agree with that. I did not take to Mandarin Downstairs for exactly this reason. Meanwhile upstairs was just dead at the last visit, girls even disinterested in dancing (unmotivated). It has definitely declined. Certain bars in Nana over the years have really turned me off badly due to the aggression and pressure. RB3 was a shocker years ago. It's like you could not just sit watching, in peace for more than 60 seconds before someone would come to hassle you.

I also did not really take to Spankys bar. Tried it a couple of time, but I don't like the Spanking stuff. Its too noisy for me, just like I don't like balloon popping shows (elsewhere). Did manage to BF one good girl from there but long ago.

I think Billboard and Twisters are significantly better bars for quality. Mercury can be a fun bar, especially very late with some Isaan music included, but unfortunately most gogo girls are pudgy (overweight to my taste). I only went there to see very specific superior girls that have not been attending recently. I don't really rate any of the other bars in Nana Plaza that I tried. Forget Suckers (low quality). Bangkok Bunnies is only for Silicone lovers, IMHO. RB4 for Surgeries and white skin lovers.

Haven't tried the new Candyland in recent times at all, nor Straps, nor RB1 and RB3.

Last night I saw my first ever Ping Pong show in Suzi Wong. Just a gimmick of no eroticism. I had previously thought a Ping Pong show was where the balls popped out of pussy and dropped into a glass. However maybe that was an Eggs show, I forget (totally disinterested). Last night the girl with special talented pussy was firing the Ping Pong balls across the bar towards customers with Ping Pong bats who would hit the balls back across to opposite side of the bar. I suppose many guys know about this show already, but was first time I ever saw it. I have seen plenty of darts popping balloons shows , needles shows, razor blade shows, smoking pussy shows etc. All dumb stuff for tourists.

Strangely, although Suzi Wong had very few customers (well down from normal), mostly fat girls, the place had a fun party type atmosphere, where Doll House, with better quality girls overall and slightly more customers last night, had a very dreary atmosphere. Not sure why that is.

Last night I headed down to Climax around 2:30 AM. Stayed for about 1 hour but the talent was just awful. I left amd went explorimg the cart bars and found a lovely 19 year old beauty. Report soon in Asian Rains new blog. Apparently I must have just missed the Army raiding the place a few minutes later. Very few late night spots left boys.

Intended again to make my way to Nana Plaza this evening. Stopped by Thermae and couldn't get past the stench of smoke wafting up the back stairs. Japanese just love their cancer sticks. I just breezed through and saw some nice faces, but nothing worth slowing my roll for the fresh air. Made my way up Sukhimvit. The Africans had settled in the street bars near the McDo. Got over to Nana Car Park at about 10:45. Nothing. Decided to walk up Soi 4. Got worse and worse. Looks like there is major renovation happening in shops in front of Rajah hotel. Hillary and the ladyboy bar in the back corner dark and closed, so appears like more gentrification on its way.

Circled back with full intention to get to NEP. Stopped by Nana Car Park again. Spotted a slim cutie in cutoff shorts sitting in front of Hooters who quick-flashed a lovely smile. Sat down and said Hello,. Immediately got the "Go with you". I was all for that. 21 yo. Claimed she was working in a 7-11. Went over to di Place and did the 300 b check-in. Unwrapped to reveal a sweet little package. Smooth latte-brown tattoo-less skin with modest perky A-cup tits. Not an ounce of fat. No baby. Tight firm rear end. Other than no real kissing, everything else was good. Open to direction. Licked nipples. Then down south for a soft slow blow job. My turn and licked her soft brown teenie nipples. Migrated down to enjoy a natural Bush which responded very well to DATY. Love box was a tight envelope of pleasure. All good stuff.

Walked back and took another glance at Nana Car Park. Spotted an even cuter small girl with braces. She would have been well at home in Thermae. In retrospect should have stopped and gotten a contact. I can't say tonight's experience is representative of my typical run through NCP, but it put a more positive spin on my recent images of the scene. In the end didn't miss the pantyhose coyote girls, nagging for lady drinks or barfines of NEP, but will surely get around to it. All options need to be explored and "polled" for potential. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.