Bangkok Reports

Decided to check out some bars very late. Initially went to Suzi Wong looking for Nott. She wasn't working so no point to even go in.

Looked in Lighthouse. No topless girls. The Coyote outfits were really ugly, lacking smooth body hugging material. The bikini girls were nothing special. Plenty of girls and reasonable customer levels, but no girls of interest. Best part was music was good for aged customers like me.

Checked the Freelancers at Soi 4 carpark. A couple of cute little things but I did not buy. One looked reasonable. Asked if she would provide nice kissing, since have been struggling to get that. She said yes for an increased price. WTF? That killed my mood. Freelancers just come across as too business like. Good Gogo girls seem to give me much better, lately. maybe its the leg opening drinks doing the trick. Business is tough. Customers are lacking. Freelancers are stone cold sober, not in a party mood. Not so easy to find a really good GFE one. I can see the advantage to picking up girls at discos and music venues where they have been drinking hopefully.

Visited Billboard. Line up well down from standard of previous visits. Maybe too late with best girls BFed long ago. Tina who I liked last visit was not there. Without any stunners, Billboard becomes a boring bar as do most bars.

Next Twisters. Line up okay To good, even though some of the best girls clearly gone already. Got there at 1. 30 AM (was only 30 minutes before close at 2 am). Other bars stay open later. Saw one girl with pantyhose on the right side. She was topless and had very beautiful mid sized tits. I was assured she was barfinable for sex (for Eih Tooms) but face not my spec. So I still don't think pantyhose is a thing worth worrying about much. Girl I barfined last time was not there. I thought 143 looked great but did not have time to suss her out. Chatted to tall Coyote Nam Bpan. She said customers were down a bit after being packed out the previous night.

Quick visit to mercury followed after Twisters closed. Two coyotes in there said they moved from Billboard simply because Billboard had too many girls and was hard to get any customers. Both looked reasonably good but not stunning by any means. Same story as from my ex Billboard girl Tukata. The high rate of girl attrition in Billboard, may not be having the desired effect to retain the lookers. The bar needs to consider how many girls is enough based on the customer levels. Crazy House started up with a small line up of very pretty girls. Girl badge numbers in Billboard go right up to 9 hundreds. Because each hundred range is a different dancing group or category, I don't know. My girl Tukata was number 826, but gone now.

Finally spent a time at a Cart Bar "Easy Bar" located between Soi 15 and Soi 17, near to Krung Sri Ayuttaya ATM. No where near as good as this cart bar was when it was located close to Cowboy. Chatted to a girl Biw moved from the previous location. She wasn't drunk so this improved her character a lot. I hoped she would pass on my LINE contact info to Noi, another cutie girl used to work Easy Bar, with the most amazing high but real tits.

Overall assessment is I hate going out after midnight. Talent levels drop everywhere. You are much better off to start at 9 PM. Went home unfucked. Did not look in Crazy House. In fact have not BFed a girl in CH for 5 weeks. That is how uninspiring it has been. Definitely in decline, meaning how good are the best 6 girls, present. I don't care about all the average or below average girls. My favourite is in BKK but she has not recommenced at CH.

Suzi Wong bar will close in 3 days and be taken over by Baccara. Baccara 2? Japanese rule.

Some girls could move to Dollhouse which has less girls and less customers. Dollhouse has some lookers and low on sirgeries but a quite boring bar for atmosphere. Some Suzi Wong girls are too ugly to move to Dollhouse or too fat. Not sure which bar is best for the less attractive ones. I think its the lack of extra young girls that has killed off the customer numbers in some bars, not meaning that I want extra young girls . I took a girl who has a 6 year old son today.

Today one Crazy House girl was dropped off by Thai boy and her son maybe 4 year old on motorcycle. Fortunately not a girl that appealed to me. Its dampens how hot you feel a girl is.

Had some spare time the other day but it was quite early. Maybe around 6 pm I could peek into some SC bars but business hadn't started. If any girls were present they were either having supper or playing with their mobile phones. Had a burger at Clubhouse first, decent but a tad expensive. Entered Crazy House just before 7 pm and I was not the first but the second customer. Surprisingly 8-9 girls were already on the stage but not the best selection. Slowly a few customers trickled in but due to a bunch of senior citizens (no offence!) the average age climbed by some 20 to 30 years. With few customers I got full attention from the waitress (s17?) which was a bit of a hassle. She even wanted a lady drink.

Thought about leaving unfucked but then decided to give very slim Nahm (or Nahm-Nahm) a try. She was quite eager to leave the premises after a shot, price was not discussed. Although she seemed to be a bit shy in the bar (as shy as one can be with only two small pieces of cloths on) she was quite active on the bed. Body as expected, very skinny and zero tits but that day, that was ok. Responsive to DATY but the usual "I don't want to come yet". Despite no DFK still kind of GFE because overall attitude was nice. After a good session in various positions she used my hand to finish herself off. Haven't had that before.

So it is also possible to arrive early but as pointed out before, after 8 pm certainly is a better time to visit.

Hi guys,

I'm a new poster so I thought I should introduce myself a little bit: I'm in my late 30's, from Germany and I am quite new to the Mongering business. I have been to Thailand only once last year and I have been reading this great Forum for a few weeks now as part of my intelligence gathering operation for my next Thailand trip early October.

Last year I stopped over for two days in Bangkok at my return from Phuket. It was like a revelation for me! On the first day I stumbled into ez2 and picked a girl from the lineup. At first I wasn't that impressed, until she took off her clothes. Wow, what a cute Girl. She said her name was May, 19, and a body like a goddess. She gave me a nice massage, the main action was really nice although I don't remember all the details but I surely do remember the great view when she was riding me in cowgirl position. Ona and a half hour and two shots later I left the venue with a big smile on my face (maybe that's why Thailand is known as the land of smile.). So my first adventure in BKK was already a nice success, a great way to be introduced to a new city.

Needless to say that on this Thailand trip I reserved a few more days in BKK before going anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1937362]Today one Crazy House girl was dropped off by Thai boy and her son maybe 4 year old on motorcycle. Fortunately not a girl that appealed to me. Its dampens how hot you feel a girl is.[/QUOTE]I would wager at least 75% of the gals working in Cowboy have Thai boyfriends.

[QUOTE=DrBJ;1936644]A quick update on Wood bar (formerly Dr Bi's Salon). We have been working through some integration procedures with the new majority shareholder and things are progressing well. There have been some changes to staff but no major shifts in numbers. The marketing of the changes is going very well and customer numbers are as good as we hoped for at this time of year. If any readers have any questions please feel free to field them here.

Regards,

BJ[/QUOTE]Google translate.

The new majority shareholder is a real prick who is impossible to get along with. Business is dire because we have the same old crew.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1937183]...Checked the Freelancers at Soi 4 carpark. A couple of cute little things but I did not buy. One looked reasonable. Asked if she would provide nice kissing, since have been struggling to get that. She said yes for an increased price. WTF? That killed my mood. Freelancers just come across as too business like. Good Gogo girls seem to give me much better, lately. maybe its the leg opening drinks doing the trick. Business is tough. Customers are lacking. Freelancers are stone cold sober, not in a party mood. Not so easy to find a really good GFE one. I can see the advantage to picking up girls at discos and music venues where they have been drinking hopefully.

...Next Twisters. Line up okay To good, even though some of the best girls clearly gone already. Got there at 1. 30 AM (was only 30 minutes before close at 2 am). Other bars stay open later. Saw one girl with pantyhose on the right side. She was topless and had very beautiful mid sized tits. I was assured she was barfinable for sex (for Eih Tooms) but face not my spec. So I still don't think pantyhose is a thing worth worrying about much. Girl I barfined last time was not there. I thought 143 looked great but did not have time to suss her out. Chatted to tall Coyote Nam Bpan. She said customers were down a bit after being packed out the previous night.[/QUOTE]Stopped in Twisters last night about 10 pm and was swamped by heavy ladydrink "buy me drink?" pressure from the dancers circulating around, the waitresses, mamasan (or whatever some of those women are). Girl jumped on my lap and wouldn't get off. Must have asked me 10 times for a drink. Many pantyhose girls on the left side stage. None seen leaving with a customer in the hour or so I was there.

Who assured you the pantyhose girl you saw was barfineable for sex? A waitress or the girl herself? Remember, I was assured by a mamasan (or whatever she was) on my first visit that the pantyhose girls did not even barfine, only dance and get ladydrinks. I have still yet to read a field report on this or other similar sites of someone barfining a pantyhose girl anywhere in the city and getting sex. But, like you, I have heard other girls say, oh no, the pantyhose girls barfine and have sex with customers. Then again, most girls working side-by-side with pantyhose girls are surprised to discover they are wearing pantyhose until I point it out. Most go-go girls and waitresses haven't even heard of a "BJ Bar", despite several of them being located within 10 minutes walk from where they have worked for years, and are shocked to discover what goes on inside of them for a mere 700-800 baht, everything included, small tip only optional.

So I wouldn't put much trust in the observations and testimony of waitresses or even about some dancers' closest co-workers. They really have no idea what is openly going on around them, what is actually happening in their business, the competition, anything, except who might or might not buy them a ladydrink in the next few minutes, much less what goes on with other girls behind closed doors.

On the kissing thing, I had a similar situation last night! LOL. I went into Rainbow 4, RB 4 or whatever it's called now on the same corner as Twister, called down a girl for a drink and interview. When she asked if I would barfine her, one early question I ask is if she would be ok for me to kiss her everywhere. She smiled as though that was a wonderful idea, gestured all around her body and said, "Yes, I like you to kiss me everywhere. But," she added, "not on my face," pointing to her entire face. LOL. WTF, indeed. I thanked her for her time, paid up and left. Oh, and she only had cola in her ladydrink, which probably relates to what you were saying about stone cold sober girls.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1937518]I would wager at least 75% of the gals working in Cowboy have Thai boyfriends.[/QUOTE]I don't need to see to husband and kid.

I am not sure that as many as 75% of gogo girls with a child have the father still around. A lot of single mothers in the industry.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1937582]I don't need to see to husband and kid.

I am not sure that as many as 75% of gogo girls with a child have the father still around. A lot of single mothers in the industry.[/QUOTE]Did not say they have a child with the father still around. Said they had Thai boyfriends. Different altogether.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1937552]Stopped in Twisters last night about 10 pm ... Many pantyhose girls on the left side stage. None seen leaving with a customer in the hour or so I was there.
[/QUOTE]EihTooms, my interest in Twisters has been awakened. It was not open for business the last time I was in BKK so I will check the place out when I return and you can bet your last baht that if they got talent I like there, I will definitively find out if they barfine or not.

In the old RB4, where Twisters now exists, I was attracted to a number of girls on the right hand stage. I thought some of those girls were really hot even though that was the stage where the girls wore tops, but also where the girls had the prettiest faces, the tightest bodies and small breasts. The topless girls on the left hand stage were usually much larger and not my type. I know other punters might totally disagree with my taste. 555.

Anyway, I am looking forward to checking out the talent in this new bar. I don't care if a girl is Coyote or not. All I care about is looks and then seeing if something happens. I will write off the bar if I get nowhere a couple of times, but for now I remain optimistic about my chances.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1937589]EihTooms, my interest in Twisters has been awakened. It was not open for business the last time I was in BKK so I will check the place out when I return and you can bet your last baht that if they got talent there, I will definitively find out if they barfine or not.[/QUOTE]Twisters definitely has talent there. And I can assure you the talent barfines and has sex with customers because I posted a message here about barfining a girl from there last week. Then she had a day off a couple of days later and came over to my apartment to stay several hours and had sex with me then too (no barfine or ladydrink purchases necessary, of course). But I haven't called down to interview one of their many pantyhose-wearing girls yet, only their bare-legged girls. And, as I reported earlier as well, I have gotten conflicting information from other Twister staff members about whether or not the pantyhose-wearing girls barfine at all and inconclusive information about whether they have sex even if they do barfine.

Funny pantyhose girl story; last week a buddy of mine and I were sitting outside having a drink on Soi Cowboy and watching what appeared to me to be veteran punters walking up the Soi doing their best to avoid and not be pulled in to the bars by the pantyhose-wearing Coyotes stationed outside the bars trying to drag them in to start buying ladydrinks and get nothing else, girls who for the most part are younger and better looking than the dancers, if any, inside those bars. Yet the punters with seemingly at least some experience in the Soi Cowboy scene knew well enough to keep walking and not get suckered by those Coyotes. Saw a few standing outside Long Gun Bar, so when we walked past Long Gun I asked one of the pantyhose-wearing Coyotes who reached for me to try to drag me in how much her barfine was. As is usual for the pantyhose-wearing set, she immediately dropped my arm and stepped away, having been busted. There is no "barfine" for her, of course. That isn't what her agency was hired to provide, not her job to do such a thing.

So I asked a very cute girl wearing regular street clothes (but not pantyhose) standing next to those Coyotes and holding up a sign for the drink deals in Long Gun why some girls were wearing pantyhose and whether or not those pantyhose girls were available for barfine. She was incredulous. "Of COURSE, they go barfine!", she exclaimed. "Every girl here goes barfine!" You know what I did next, right? I asked her if she was available for bafine and she recoiled in shock. "No!! I don't barfine. I only show the sign!"

LOL. So, as I said before, these girls have no clue what is even going on right next to them, know less than zero what other girls are doing, particularly behind closed doors, but simply rattle off whatever pops into their minds about what they think all the other girls are doing whether it has any connection with the truth or not. Meanwhile, as of this writing I have yet to read a convincing and detailed or, for that matter, casual and offhand first hand experience refutation of the idea that the pantyhose-wearing girls either do not barfine or, if they do, do not have sex. Something on the order of, "Oh no. I chat up those pantyhose-wearing girls all the time, have barfined them dozens of times and, believe me, they have sex with customers just like all the other girls do", would have put this notion seen across other message boards for months and months if not years now to rest. But I haven't seen it. You would think someone would make one up every now and then just to annoy some posters who have suggested otherwise. lol. But I haven't seen that either.

Re Twisters:

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1937183] Saw one girl with pantyhose on the right side. She was topless and had very beautiful mid sized tits. I was assured she was barfinable for sex (for Eih Tooms) but face not my spec. So I still don't think pantyhose is a thing worth worrying about much.[/QUOTE]Not that anyone should "worry" about pantyhose-wearing girls much anyway except over the potential of spending time and money leading to no barfine and / or no sex. But I would say a "topless" dancer wearing pantyhose does not fit the general profile of girls wearing pantyhose in and outside go-go bars around the city that I have been talking about at all. I have not yet seen any of the pantyhose wearing girls on the left side stage of Twisters go topless. But then, I have not been there as late as 1:30am.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1937613]Re Twisters:

Not that anyone should "worry" about pantyhose-wearing girls much anyway except over the potential of spending time and money leading to no barfine and / or no sex. But I would say a "topless" dancer wearing pantyhose does not fit the general profile of girls wearing pantyhose in and outside go-go bars around the city that I have been talking about at all. I have not yet seen any of the pantyhose wearing girls on the left side stage of Twisters go topless. But then, I have not been there as late as 1:30am.[/QUOTE]I am glad you can concede there are variations. The topless girl was on the right side of course, with pantyhose. Did not notice any other girls on the right with pantyhose but then I was not close enough to some girls at the back to tell, and I wasn't interested to do a survey. Tits were magnificent but maybe legs were not so good. If she was not available for sex, it is unlikely that she would be topless. However I don't think there are any hard and fast rules that can be guaranteed 100%. As I have pointed out before, a girl could be not available for sex due to period, pussy problem, or does not like the customer.

I think it is best not to assume too much till ask the girl if she wants to go. Girls in Thermae are available for sex but of course I do get knockbacks merely because I am older Farang.

I had a drink with Naam Bpan (NB) last time, even though she is not available for sex. I like to chat to her a bit, to get her perspective on things in the bar that I observe. She was a bit embarrassed that I had seen her be barfined by an Asian customer on a previous occasion. I also saw her return to the bar a very short time later. She was quick to explain that the customer was a long term friend customer and that he merely took her out of the bar to get something to eat. She was worried I would be angry. Clearly I was not angry since I had called her for a drink. I assured her that I had assumed she went out just to eat already. I am not totally dumb and assuming silly things that I did not see for myself. Keeping an open mind to possibilities is best. Apparently the girl I did Barfine BB came to NB at some point to make sure there was no bad feeling about BB stealing me the customer. Of course there was not. I am a customer that could choose different girls on different days, and then return to my old girl. NB has no feeling of trying to covet customers, at least so she says.

Last visit was late and a some of the most pretty girls were missing, which suggested to me that some were barfined rather than just not attending, and quite likely fucking as well. Perhaps a good percentage of the pretty girls remaining were remaining due to not being available or due to having retuned from a ST. Not many pretty girls were left over. Only 2 or 3 were possibilities for my taste. 143 was looking good. Another had big tits but face was slightly unusual. Forget the number but certainly doable. Other guys with different taste might say the whole line up was very doable. However I look at the very special slim ones. Most were in the slim to medium category even if had big tits.

At that late hour the standard of girl looks was significantly superior to Billboard in my view. Again best Billboard girls were probably BFed already. Billboard has the bad lighting on the rotating stage so you can the girl has probable good body, but cannot easily see the face quality properly. Many places use dim lighting to allow girls to pass for being better looking than they really are. However Billboard is amongst the gloomiest of bars. I don't like that myself, liking to be able to see girls more clearly. Twisters has better lighting and RB4 is much better in that respect also.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1937671]I had a drink with Naam Bpan (NB) last time, even though she is not available for sex. I like to chat to her a bit, to get her perspective on things in the bar that I observe. She was a bit embarrassed that I had seen her be barfined by an Asian customer on a previous occasion.[/QUOTE]Of course all girls are available for sex. Just a question of money. The Asian customer who took her "on that previous occasion", has probably given her 5 to 7.000 baht short time. I know a Japanese guy working for Toyota completely into pantyhose stuff (more than me) who took home a waitress from Hooters bar in Pattaya (where the girls are dressed with orange short, tank top and pantyhose). He paid 7.000 baht.

They prefer Asian customers than farangs unless they find someone able to support them for good.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1937174]Someone has "left the room". This means they shut down their ID, and started a new ID more than likely, or could be they blocked conversations with you. Either way there ID and profile goes away, and you left with "Empty Room". Could be caused by girl switching to a new phone handset.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is exactly what happens when you change to a different phone. It happened recently with a girl I had met on TF and was chatting with on LINE. I still have that "empty room" in my chats. She reappeared a few days later when she downloaded line on her new phone. Actually that has happened to me twice, though the girl just changed ID on me the other time.