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Hi guys,

I just wanted to post on my experience form Spasso and Mixx, form the end of August. This is from a Tuesday night (August 30).

Having heard about Spasso I decided to check out the place. Mostly out of curiosity and because its on the way to Mixx. But I wasn't wholly against taking a classy hot older girl, even if I had to pay a higher price.

I arrived at the venue around 12. Classy place and a very good band. They also mix a great Old Fashioned -- though drinks are pretty pricey. Most of the Clientele were middle aged and older Western businessmen. At least that was my impression from the way they dressed and looked.

A lot of girls at the venue. All well dressed and done up. But much older than I am looking for. Also a lot of them had a few extra pounds on them. Actually it was kind of hard to tell what they really looked like even when you talked to them up close because it is so damn dark in there. At one point I was talking to an African girl and I could barely make out anything but her silhouette. 555.

After making a few rounds around the place (its pretty big) I was approached by a tall slim and pretty Vietnamese girls. I love Vietnamese girls and this one was very sweet and kind in our conversation. I think we developed a nice rapport. I was digging her and was ready to take her if the price was right. Our conversation eventually came to price and she quoted me 8 K for LT! She said this is what she gets because she is a model. 555 I did not even counter with an offer because I really could not tell whether she was all that pretty because it was so dark in the club.

We parted amicably and I made a few rounds around the bar to check out the girls but nothing really piqued my interest. An older Thai girl grabbed me and we started to chat. I told her that I wanted to dance and would be headed to Mixx. She told me that she would go with me and that she would come back to my room with me for free. 555 Yeah right. Even if this was true I would not have taken her as she was not very attractive to me.

Overall the place is nice but not for me. The girls are well dressed, classy, and very polite and friendly. There is also a nice mix of Asian, African and Russian. But the girls are a bit too old for me and not all that attractive. And the prices they are asking are outrageous! The setup here is like Ipanema in Singapore or Manhattan in Shanghai but with way less attractive girls for the same prices.

I bounced and headed to Mixx. It was just before 1 AM and the place was pretty dead. But people started filtering in. I took my poison in the main section by the bar and surveyed the scene. There was a very hot girl on the dance floor with an amazing rack. I spent most of my time ogling here. But she was with a Thai guy and did not look back at me. Her friend, who was not that cute, kept looking at me and trying to make contact at one point she even raised her glass in my direction.

I left my perch and made the rounds. To my surprise I saw a very sexy girl I had met the last time I was at Mixx in December. She is very exotic half Spanish and half Vietnamese. Tall with long dark hair she looks like she could be Brazilian. He name escapes me right now but she goes by a Western name. Something common like Jennifer or Emily. I bought her a drink and we flirted for a while as she let my hands explore her nice firm body. We eventually got around to discussing price and she wanted 5 K LT but would only stay till 5 AM. I could not get her to budge so we parted ways.

I went back to my perch and started making eye contact with some other girls around the room. Overall the quality of girls was much better than Spasso and there were 3 or 4 very attractive ones there. Also some of the girls I recognized from Spasso started to filter in as well. Overall talent level was OK. But way behind Ibar in Pattaya.

Then suddenly the lights went out and the music stopped. A blackout! And then out of nowhere the friend of the dancing girl with the big rack ran up to me and kissed me full on the mouth. She said she wanted to go with me. I told her I liked her friend and she ran back. I hoped this would be the icebreaker I needed to approach her friend. But it was so dark I could not see them at the other end of the room. By the time the lights went on they were gone.

I started talking to a very cute girls that had been looking over at me all night. Nice fit body and cute face. But again she wanted 5 K Baht till 5 Am. I said I'the give her 5 but she had to stay till 11 at least. She would not budge claiming that he had to drive to Rangyong the next morning to visit her family. She also told me that she had just declined an offer from a short British looking duded she had been talking to for 7 K. I suspected total BS and moved on.

Prices seemed to have gone up quite a bit at Mixx lately. I was able to score a couple of very attractive girls for 4 K LT there last trip. And they both stayed until after 10 AM.

I talked to another girls but she did not look as hot up close as she had from the other side of the room so moved on. I headed to the other part of the club to have a look but it was mostly full of middle aged an unattractive CIS girls. On my way back to the main room I ran onto my "Brazilian" Viet again. I asked her if she was ready to go with me for 4 K and to stay till 5 AM. She agreed and we were off!

We grabbed a taxi at the exit to the club and made out way back to Sukhumvit. I groped he and we DFKed in the back of the cab. She was very responsive and passionate. I thought I was in for the ride of my life.

Back at the hotel something happened that started making me suspicious about her. When she gave her ID to the security guy at the elevator she flipped the ID over so that I could not see the picture side. I brushed this of but something inside me was starting to suspect that she may be an LB.

More BS followed when we got to the room. Now she wanted the money up front. I was able to talk her out of this and we went back to making out. I got her to take off her dress and bra. Her body was nice with small be cup silicone tits. Nevertheless, my suspicions grew. I felt between her legs and was happy to not find a dick there. But something about her pussy seemed weird. I don't know quite how to describe it but the skin around her pussy was loose. Almost as if I was feeling a scrotum. Ewww!

I think she may have noticed my reaction to this and she started to BS me again about paying up front. I told her no way and said I wanted her to leave. I did not confront her about being an LB. I offered her 300 for Taxi and she said she was fine with that and left without a fuss.

Combined with the way she handled her ID and her insistence on paying upfront makes me suspect she was a post op LB. I suspect that she wanted the money up front in case I realized her true gender after we did the deed. "Her" confrontational and aggressive attitude back in the room screamed LB to me. Thai or Viet girls, unless they are extremely pissed, are much softer, and try to settle things in a more gentle way. Moreover, a real girl would have raised hell about being kicked out with just cab fare after all the time and effort invested.

Once my suspicions had been raised she was less and less attractive to me. The spell had been broken. Some of the exotic things about her that I liked her tall lithe body and her rather sharp facial features that made her look more Latin that Thai I now attribute to her gender.

Fortunately I was able to salvage the evening by picking up a hot, cute, little Cart Bar girl that was 100% woman (see my report in Asian Rain's Cart Bar thread). A lovley experience that helped me forget my misadventure at Mixx.

I still am not 100% sure about this girl. When I came down the security guy at the elevator was gone and there was a new guy so I couldn't ask about the ID. And I probably would have been too embarrassed to ask anyway. But if you go to Mixx and find yourself talking to a hot and exotic Brazilian-looking girl that says she is half Spanish / Vietnamese beware!

I will probably go back to Mixx at some point. Maybe to check out their ladies nights on Wednesdays. But I will give Spasso a pass.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1938077]Hi guys,

I just wanted to post on my experience form Spasso and Mixx, form the end of August. This is from a Tuesday night (August 30).

Having heard about Spasso I decided to check out the place. Mostly out of curiosity and because its on the way to Mixx. But I wasn't wholly against taking a classy hot older girl, even if I had to pay a higher price.

I will probably go back to Mixx at some point. Maybe to check out their ladies nights on Wednesdays. But I will give Spasso a pass.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Uncle V,

Do try Insomnia, you will really like it as it is a branch of Ibar Pattaya and has mostly Thai women no foreign women here, also try Oskar, Climax, Levels all in Soi 11 walking distance of each other. If you are in BKK on Friday or Saturday do try Ce-La-Ve (Formerly Kudeta) some awesome chicks there on weekends and many only want to have a farang BF, it is an awesome place super sexy and has a mix of normal and very less WGs but good ambiance and hiso Thai people with farangs all mixed but all dressed very nicely for the night.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1938077]
I still am not 100% sure about this girl. When I came down the security guy at the elevator was gone and there was a new guy so I couldn't ask about the ID. And I probably would have been too embarrassed to ask anyway. But if you go to Mixx and find yourself talking to a hot and exotic Brazilian-looking girl that says she is half Spanish / Vietnamese beware!

I will probably go back to Mixx at some point. Maybe to check out their ladies nights on Wednesdays. But I will give Spasso a pass.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Any time a "girl" looks weird in anyway in Thailand, you really need to be very suspicious. Certainly that is very good advice. I have taken some very tall girls up to 175 cm, so just being tall is not exactly weird looking by itself. Trying to get paid in advance is another highly suspicious move and indicates something could be wrong.

If her pussy felt weird, almost certainly L.B. Could have even had a dick pulled back and tucked behind.

Many years ago I got tricked and was taking two girls back to my room from Hollywood, when it finally dawned on me that only one was a real girl. Luckily, like you I realised in time and before going too far I cancelled, went back to Hollywood, and chose another real girl, with big naturals to be sure. LOL So I never actually got to see the dick luckily. Maybe I was keen to for whole bar to realise I had not gone through with it and was definitely not gay in any way.

I suspect a LB that is tricking would try to give you BJ without taking the panties off most likely. A Thai girl and a Post op in FKK in Germany tried to persuade me to go with both of them but I did not accept. I liked the girl only and not her friend. Never examined the pussy of the post op that closely to see if was a good job. Maybe wore something covering it.

I know a very charming LB "Eye" who used to work cart bar "Easy bar" and bought her the odd drink. However the real girl Noi with big naturals was the one to fuck. LB was good value just for conversation. I never wanted to see the dick, that is for sure.

Once fucked a Thai girl, with almost zero Labia Minora, so I checked out the pussy in great detail visually and with fingers. Seemed to have a uterus O.K. But could not find a clit of any external significance. It throws you when try to DATY. In the end decided she was either an anatomical freak or possibly circumcised muslim (clit removed) but not a post op LB. Pussy was very normal for fucking. Tits normal not sillies. Was certainly highly baffled. Never seen anything like it again.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1938099]Any time a "girl" looks weird in anyway in Thailand, you really need to be very suspicious. Certainly that is very good advice. I have taken some very tall girls up to 175 cm, so just being tall is not exactly weird looking by itself. Trying to get paid in advance is another highly suspicious move and indicates something could be wrong.
[/QUOTE]Yeah usually I am pretty good at spotting these signs. But the fact "she" was so "exotic" - she doesn't look SE Asian at all but Latin or even Southern European -- really threw me off with her. But once I started having my suspicions she started looking more and more like an LB to me.

I am not one of those guys that is grossed out by the fact that I was making out with an LB. I am fine with that. Even if I had fucked her and enjoyed it and found out later I wouldn't mind all that much. Though I certainly wouldn't repeat or seek it out again. I am comfortable enough in my own sexuality (decisively hetero) that it wouldn't raise more than a chuckle.

But once I know or have strong suspicion that she is a he it just takes all the attraction away for me and I lose the desire to be with that person. That, more than any grossed out feelings on my part was why I wanted "her" to leave". And I think I got off (no pun intended) pretty easy.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1938099]Any time a "girl" looks weird in anyway in Thailand, you really need to be very suspicious. Certainly that is very good advice. I have taken some very tall girls up to 175 cm, so just being tall is not exactly weird looking by itself. Trying to get paid in advance is another highly suspicious move and indicates something could be wrong.
[/QUOTE]I pride myself being able to spot the LBs from a mile away. As you say, anything "weird" is suspicious. Some are done up so well its very difficult to spot visually, removing nearly all the usual tell tales. But even so, you may even see this in the way they move. LBs have a tendency to overact the feminism. Real Thai girls mostly have a more subtle and soft way to move (well, the ones I'm attracted to anyway. Bar girls can be pretty rogue). I think I've only ever seen one where I just could not tell. Even after someone told me it was an LB. Absolutely nothing gave her way, nothing at all. Or maybe I have have seen loads and never knew the diiference (there's a scary thought).

But an easy rule to follow is: if in any doubt whatsoever, move on. Or at least ask the question, you can always excuse yourself by saying you've seen LBs where you could not tell. A nice girl will simply laugh at the question, and make fun of you the rest of the evening.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1938077]Hi guys,

I just wanted to post on my experience form Spasso and Mixx, form the end of August. This is from a Tuesday night (August 30).[/QUOTE]Excellent report Uncle V, on both Spasso and Mixx. Your view of Spasso jibes perfectly with mine. The ladies are definitely older and less spunky than at places like Mixx / Climaxx, and I guess that's because they cater to an older clientele. Not my scene either, especially given the prices.

And as for your experience at Mixx, well, we've all been there, right? It's just an occupational hazard. Good you got the cart girl in the end; at least that took some of the edge off the close encounter with the scrotal labia.

Still horny, my friend.

[QUOTE=Ventolin42;1937405]Hi guys,

I'm a new poster so I thought I should introduce myself a little bit:[/QUOTE]Welcome Ventolin, and thanks for taking the time to introduce yourself.

Sounds like you were bitten by the bug, and you are now infected with the LOS virus. That infection is, for better or for worse, a life-long affliction, so you'd better hunker in: you're in it for the long haul. And it sounds like you are already planning your return visit, so I look forward to reading about your experiences. Reports from people like you are particularly useful because they represent the newbie's experience. We old hands tend to be overly burdened by the baggage of yesteryear, and so we can't really see how amazingly good BKK is (or how amazingly bad it is, as the case may be). So your viewpoint will be informative and perhaps eye-opening. So once again, welcome, and I'm looking forward to reading about your experiences.

So one night as I was leaving Rainbow 3, I spotted a very sexy spinner sitting on the balcony overlooking the stairwell. Before I could approach her and find out what her story was, she turned around and went into Straps, the post op ladyboy bar. I had heard or read that one or two of the Straps "gals", lets call them gals, are natural born girls. I have no idea if this is true. But why would a natural born girl want to work in a post op ladyboy bar? Again, I have no idea. Anyway it is what I heard and as I had nothing on my agenda that night because I had already been to a soapy earlier, I followed this "girl" (?) into her bar.

The bar is very small and narrow with a stage running down the length of one wall. There are two rows of seating, one higher than the other, facing the stage. There were possibly only 10 to 12 customers in the bar and yet only one seat was available in the front row. A waitress said Hi and accompanied me to the empty seat and took my order for a coke light. I sat down and saw the spinner dancing on the stage. She was really sexy and petite with absolutely no ladyboy traces. She had feminine Thai face, not too much makeup, a small frame, 5 feet tall, small "A" cups, small hands, small feet, no fat, and tight, but not too tight a body. If she was a post op, I saw no evidence of it.

I sipped my coke and smiled at her. She smiled back and then walked off the stage to say Hello. Before I could say more than "nice to meet you, what's your name" she asked for a lady drink. Kind of a fast mover if you know what I mean, but I agreed to her request because I am an amenable guy and I was curious to find out more. She called over the waitress and ordered a orange drink and then sat down next to me. I began our conversation with the usual stuff like where you from, how long you in BKK, yada yada yada, all the while checking her out, but even close up, I saw nothing but a pretty, very sexy, spinner girl in front of me. So I asked her straight out if she was a ladyboy. Perhaps she was a little offended by the question, but she answered no, "I am a girl" and the conversation continued. Then her drink came and she drank it down in one or two gulps like a shot of Tequila. Next she asked me if I wanted to barfine her. I started to say something like, "yes, maybe, but lets get to know one another better first", but before I could finish my sentence she abruptly got up and jumped back onto the stage.

I was kind of stunned by her abruptness, but then I couldn't help laughing at her. As for my little starlet; she went back to her dancing and gave me the "you are not there look. " I just continued smiling at her and then I did some more reconnoitering before leaving the bar for the first and last time. All the other "gals" on the stage looked like ladyboys to me although some were more successful than others in looking feminine. Their faces, their height and / or ginormous silly cones gave them all away. I looked around behind me at the other customers who were a mix of Japanese and Western guys. They seemed to be having a good time watching the "gals" on stage and drinking booze. I took a couple more sips of my coke light and got up to pay the bill. I smiled and waived goodbye to my little miss superstar who was still pretending I did not exist and I left.

To this day I still think she was a a natural born girl, but why would she work in Straps when she could easily be in the top 10 girls over at Crazy House UNLESS she really was a post op. And her behavior was most un-lady like in its abruptness, but that could be explained by an inculcation of the Straps Bar culture. Who knows, who cares. And that is my ladyboy story of 2016.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1938761]To this day I still think she was a a natural born girl, but why would she work in Straps when she could easily be in the top 10 girls over at Crazy House UNLESS she really was a post op. And her behavior was most un-lady like in its abruptness, but that could be explained by an inculcation of the Straps Bar culture.[/QUOTE]If she was a genetic female she was likely the hottest option there, so easier competition. And with customers expecting a [I]sans junk[/I] environment maybe she could finesse punters into believing what they want to believe?

If appearance passed all the eye tests I would fall back on voice and demeanor, with ANY doubts meaning a pass.

SL.

Good story Natty.

Yes my "gal's" behavior sounds like yours. Abrupt and pushy. Though she was not that way in the club. Only after we got to the room. Which is a bit strange. Maybe she was starting to sense that I was getting suspicious and wanted to make sure she'd get her money?

But this may also be a VN thing. I have read on this forum that p4 p culture there is very rushed and abrupt. This is not at all the experience I have had with my VN girls, but I met my girls in Singapore and Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1938094]Uncle V,

Do try Insomnia, you will really like it as it is a branch of Ibar Pattaya and has mostly Thai women no foreign women here, also try Oskar, Climax, Levels all in Soi 11 walking distance of each other. If you are in BKK on Friday or Saturday do try Ce-La-Ve (Formerly Kudeta) some awesome chicks there on weekends and many only want to have a farang BF, it is an awesome place super sexy and has a mix of normal and very less WGs but good ambiance and hiso Thai people with farangs all mixed but all dressed very nicely for the night.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Alex my man!

I've been to all the places you've mentioned except Ce La Vie. But I will most definitely check it out next trip. Thanks for the tip!

Someone recently mentioned the Black Pagoda in Patpong to me, anyone got experience to share from that venue?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1938761]
I was kind of stunned by her abruptness, but then I couldn't help laughing at her. As for my little starlet; she went back to her dancing and gave me the "you are not there look. " I just continued smiling at her and then I did some more reconnoitering before leaving the bar for the first and last time. All the other "gals" on the stage looked like ladyboys to me although some were more successful than others in looking feminine. Their faces, their height and / or ginormous silly cones gave them all away. I looked around behind me at the other customers who were a mix of Japanese and Western guys. They seemed to be having a good time watching the "gals" on stage and drinking booze. I took a couple more sips of my coke light and got up to pay the bill. I smiled and waived goodbye to my little miss superstar who was still pretending I did not exist and I left.

To this day I still think she was a a natural born girl, but why would she work in Straps when she could easily be in the top 10 girls over at Crazy House UNLESS she really was a post op. And her behavior was most un-lady like in its abruptness, but that could be explained by an inculcation of the Straps Bar culture. Who knows, who cares. And that is my ladyboy story of 2016.[/QUOTE]That was the same attitude and experience I had there last year, but I am not so sure about the genetic female part so happy that didn't work out. Guess it's the bar's MO. Push quick and get them out the door, I suppose there is something to be said for only trying to milk 1 drink out of the customer.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1938805]If she was a genetic female she was likely the hottest option there, so easier competition. And with customers expecting a [I]sans junk[/I] environment maybe she could finesse punters into believing what they want to believe?

If appearance passed all the eye tests I would fall back on voice and demeanor, with ANY doubts meaning a pass.

SL.[/QUOTE]In meeting a new lady I always ask where they are from and if they are Issan? I also ask if they are Katoy? They never seem to mind when you use the Thai word instead of LB. I love when they answer if I would like to check, and they open their legs a little. Amazing how many Thai ladies don't wear panties.

RL.

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1938811]Someone recently mentioned the Black Pagoda in Patpong to me, anyone got experience to share from that venue?[/QUOTE]I did not get around to make the visit. On high level bridge close to Foodland. Up market so extra thrifty guys should not bother. I did not take to Bada Bing or any others last PP visit but Black Pagoda not yet tried.

Electric Blue was pretty low class with a lot of Sillies.