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[QUOTE=Toscana]

Russian/Ukrainian girls: Ortos is right. After the scandal at the Kiev German consulate about three years ago, the visa regime to Germany and other Schengen countries has been tightened considerably. Many of the "Russian"/"Ukrainian" girls who work the clubs these days are more German than Russian or Ukrainian. If they weren't born in Germany they come from Russian/German families that came over fifteen or so years ago. Steffi and Leonie at Oase are good examples. They speak a colloquial Russian, sure, but I bet they would have problems writing it accurately. Their German is excellent.

Russian economy: going down the shoot rapidly. Banks are betting against their own central bank on the rouble, and winning. That's why the exchange rate is going south, and the foreign exchange reserves dwindling rapidly. Oil price way down. Given that Russian corporates have hundreds of millions of currency debt coming due this year, which they will probably be unable to refinance, expect a blow out. As usual the poor on the streets outside Moscow will end up paying the bill and resorting to vodka. Unfortunately the girls will find it harder to get out and seek their economic salvation in the FKKs. Sorry, EL, but that is reality, not Tosc's wish fulfilment.[/QUOTE]


Hey Tosc,
Excellent points about the presence of Russian (and Ukrainian, etc.) in the clubs today.

I remember back when PHG had a terrific collection of Russian workers. Most spoke German albeit rather poorly. Now it is as you describe. I never try to rap with the Russians girls in English. Most of them do not speak it. Serious German chops though. Steffi hardly has much of an accent. Neither does Melissa at GT. Olga at World has a strong accent, but speaks excellent German.

On another topic, I lately been wondering what a threesome with Hannah and Leonie/Edith would be like. They seem to get along well. Hmmmm...

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus] I've never met Marlow but he has always struck me as a Gentleman through his board personality. Nick I have met on several occasions and although his board wit may be direct, he is a right fine Gent and not at all xenophobic. [/QUOTE]

I have met Nick The G once in FKK World. I really liked him. Interesting and knowledgeable fellow. I hope to spend more time chatting with him in the club (in between girls of course as this is the main reason we are here). I think there is a lot that I can learn from Nick The G.

I have not had the luck to have met Marlow. Maybe I need to get into the German escort scene and private party scene. It sounds a lot like the private party scene at home.

[QUOTE=Dedalus] You don't really believe this, do you? Been watching this scene for years and have heard that story before. Ain't gonna happen. Some will leave the biz, that's for sure. But if these girls could go do high-class call-girl work for butt-loads of dough, then they would. In fact, I know some FKK girls who DO moonlight as escorts, but they STILL continue to work in the clubs.

Since you are interested in trying to learn some German, learn this phrase for the next time a girls tries to sing you that sympathy song:

"So etwas kommt bei mir nicht an." [/QUOTE]

Girls from my experience do several different ways of sex provision from brothels, to parties to escorts - no one method will get them all the work that they may want or need.

Thanks for the German quote to add to my list of phrases. This is helpful.

Cheers,

Basketcase

[QUOTE=Polar]There are no better alternatives than Ryanair. They treat you like a bunch of cattle, but charge for a flight is also close to zero.

My last Sweden - Frankfurt Hahn return ticket cost me 20 Eurocent! This gives quite a lot of money left for more important things. There are some advices. Never check in luggage (cost a lot), always use Visa Electron for payment (free of charge, otherwise 3 Euro per one way trip), book as much as you can when they have promotion (and they have promotions all the time, just wait for the best = 0.01 Euro taxes and charges included). If you use the tickets or not is not a big thing at that pricing. I have booked 70 trips to Germany from now until Feb 08. At least two alternatives every week. Total damage 7 Euro.[/QUOTE]

I only recently cottoned onto the ryanair thing. The story was that their airports were too far away from where you want to be or flew at inconvenient times (early morning or late evening). The former is true but the later means you can maximise your time in the country that are in visiting - in this case Germany.

Checking in luggage can be like £8-9 a bag and paying by debit or credit card incurs £4.75 fee per leg of the journey. No need to pay for priority boarding at £1.90 a leg or travel insurance if you already have travel insurance through your credit card or in an annual policy. As Polar says pay by visa electron and there are no credit or debit card fees and never check in luggage. Just take a weekend bag or satchel. You do not need much clothes in the FKKs since you are naked bar a towel wrapped around you.

Also if you pick the right deal the taxes and fees are included in the flight price. There can be flights advertised as free but this is not really the case since there is a nominal charge of one pence or one euro cent.

Elements of Her Majesty's Army of the Rhine and I were discussing a particular point and find it absolutely hilarious when in the clubs to be sitting in a club in Germany in towels. I mean towels!!! Tell anyone at home what you have been doing and they think you have gone bonkers.

I have not managed to book 70 flights as Polar has done in one sitting but recently I have booked 35 return flights of various combinations of long weekend trips, midweek day trips and 2 days trips and the total cost of these 35 return flights has been 70 pence or about one USD$1. The reason for the 70 pence is that each leg is one pence and so a return flight is two pence. Two pence for a return flight times 35 flights booked is 70 pence. Now I am not going to be taking all of them but it gives me the flexibility to go out at certain times or days or come back earlier or later than I wanted depending on how I feel and the girl line ups.

Usually I pay around GBP20 to GBP25 for a return flight depending on when I am coming back. It is usually the UK end that is more expensive.

I have flown several times now for 2 pence return and it is nice to know that if you are flexible with times and what you can receive in customer service that you get the end result: which is to get yourself to Germany.

The reciprocal is the same for people going the other way so it would be nice to see more Germans in Europe. I know that people from my country travel extensively.

[QUOTE=Ortos]What about Czech Linda? She is not exactly petite. Now here is a big girl who delivers the goods. She was for many years at Palace, a no-go club for Mike D. But now she holds court at Mike's own favourite Hessen love nest, World. So...Try it Mike, you just might Like her....[/QUOTE]
She is a little too big for me, but all the sessions I had with her did not include the good ol in & out. Evrytime, she just worked her oral magic that was so good, I did not feel like stopping her.

[QUOTE=Dedalus]I've never met Marlow but he has always struck me as a Gentleman through his board personality. Nick I have met on several occasions and although his board wit may be direct, he is a right fine Gent and not at all xenophobic.
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I am sure Marlow & Nick are Gents & all the other good stuff, but they both seem to have issues with non locals. It might be unfair to call them xenophobic, but some of their posts sure seem that way.

Whether they like it or not, tourists are going to visit the FKK`s & these guys need to get over it.

I have just looked at Ryanairs website. Can I ask if you are flying to Frankfurt Hahn. If so which of Palace, Oase and World is closer.

Can you give me an approx distance and time to the nearest club please, by car.

Can one hire a car at Hahn, if so which company do you recommend.

Thanks very much

Z

[QUOTE=Ortos]What about Czech Linda? She is not exactly petite. Now here is a big girl who delivers the goods. She was for many years at Palace, a no-go club for Mike D. But now she holds court at Mike's own favourite Hessen love nest, World. So...Try it Mike, you just might Like her....[/QUOTE]

There was in 2008 at Oase a girl called Melanie from Frankfurt who was friends with Toni from Frankfurt. She was a big girl and she certainly tried harder than her more slender colleagues. I never went to the room with her since I am not a chubby chaser but then also I was not getting talked into going off my type by my crew buddies.

Melanie certainly entertained the fantasies of some men who like their girls by the kilogram rather than the equivalent amount in pounds. I have not seen Melanie in the club since the Summer. She was a happy soul and was interesting to talk to. I understand that there are a couple of write ups of Melanie in the forum.

Cheers,

Basketcase

[quote=zelatrix]i have just looked at ryanairs website. can i ask if you are flying to frankfurt hahn. if so which of palace, oase and world is closer.

can you give me an approx distance and time to the nearest club please, by car.

can one hire a car at hahn, if so which company do you recommend.

thanks very much

z[/quote]

for the clubs in nrw the ryanair airports are dusseldorf weeze (nrn) in deutschland on the nederlands and allemania border or eindhoven - ein (home of psv eindhoven!!!!! for the league) in nederlands (nederlands is the home of many ijsberen).

there are car hire firms at each of these airports and so to get to golden time the drive is to golden time from nrn (about 50km) and ein (about 90km). in each case the drive is 45 minutes even for ein since it is motorway whereas the nrn is along country roads with restricted speed limits. you should be able top pick up £20 return - leave saturday and come back sunday night from nrn and ein from stn.

yes, the flights are from stn unless you an get to bhx in the midlands. i know that stn is not the most convenient for you.

for the clubs in hesse the ryanair airport in deutschland is frankfurt hahn (means cock in german) or hhn. the entry point of hhn is actually closer to luxembourg than it is to frankfurt but since it is administered by fraport who also operate frankfurt main airport the naming went to frankfurt. since it is also fraport expect efficient handling of landing and take off.

there is a bohrs omnibuss to ffm hbf for €12 one way (€24 return) that takes 1.45 hours and there is no toliet on the bus. remember to take a dump or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] before getting on as the bus driver does not stop. if you take the bus in the factor in time to get on the bus - they are like hourly or half hourly depending on the time of day and also picking up trains in ffm to head to palace in hausen, oase in bhh or world in garbentich.

there are also numerous car hire companies in hhn so pick one up from [url]www.sixti.com[/url] for €9.99 plus 19.5% service charge a day and drive the 137 kilometres to oase. i can do it in 1.25 hours. palace is closer at around 100 kilometres away from hhn but you are driving into the city as well whereas going to oase means you skirt the city. the drive to world from hhn is around 177 kilometers. once you get out of the palatine landes and into hesse landes you can also be doing high speed chase with the mercedes and porches in the fast lane.

there is also [url]www.hertz.de;[/url] europacar; avis and other local firms. i usually use sixti (not sixt) as its cheaper but there are limits to 100 km per day unless you want to pay 15 cents per additional km over 100 km and cdw insurance is not inclusive in the price. however, you cannot sneeze at €9.99 a day plus 19.5% service. sixti from hhn is not generally viable due to the one way distance of 137 km unless you are doing 3 days then its 274km used up getting there and back and 26 km for getting to oase and back from your hotel in friedrichsdorf or bhh.

[url]www.sixiti.com[/url] from nrn or ein is much more achievable for a 2 day trip since you get 200km for the 2 day car hire at €9.99 a day and from nrn as i said to golden time it is 50km so you use up 100km getting there and back from nrn with 100km left over to cruise around bruggen for your hotel or cash machines and to fill the car up with benzin. i usually fill thecar up at the 24 hour aral petrol station in weeze village.

from ein you can also do golden time or even yin yang at about 90km one way with 20km spare for your hotel in bruggen (2-3 km away from gt). i usually fill up the car on return at the shell station that is 5 km from ein airport.

i am not used to driving at 240 kmph per hour like my british colleagues who live in germany so i pot along at 160kmph since i am worried i drive the left hand side when it should be right hand side.

the drive between golden time to oase can be 2.5 hours to 3 hours depending on traffic. it can be done and i expect to be doing this leg as you know. or you can do what i have been recommended is take a combination of local trains and intercity trains from friedrichsdorf in the taunus to kaldenkirchen in nord rhein area of nrw on die bahn for €29 one way of booked in advance.

hope this helps zelatrix. the above is hard worked out logistics but you can see it is doable at reasonable cost. many others do it as well - swedes come into hahn from stockholm - many of the senior names here have done it. legions and centuries of italiani come up from the boot of europe and also a couple of britons.

cheers,

basketcase

Cheers matey,

Zelatrix junior wanted to write you a thank you note. See below. All his idea you understand (aplogies for the spelling)


Dear Uncle Basketcas,

Thank you very much for the directons. I am looking forward to making good use off them. One off the very nisest presence I have ever had.


Love Zelatrix (junior)

[QUOTE=Zelatrix]Cheers matey,

Zelatrix junior wanted to write you a thank you note. See below. All his idea you understand (aplogies for the spelling)


Dear Uncle Basketcas,

Thank you very much for the directons. I am looking forward to making good use off them. One off the very nisest presence I have ever had.


Love Zelatrix (junior)[/QUOTE]

Zelatrix and Zelatrix (junior),

Danke schon for your thank note. It is appreciated.

I have updated my original reply to you for car hire firms and logistical information on what one needs to contemplate to get to GT from NRN and EIN airports. I also expanded it here and there to make what I wrote more understandable and clearer to readers who may not be familiar with ryanair, car hire firms and these obscure airports.

Cheers,

Basketcase

[QUOTE=Vito Corleone]I am sure Marlow & Nick are Gents & all the other good stuff, but they both seem to have issues with non locals. It might be unfair to call them xenophobic, but some of their posts sure seem that way.

Whether they like it or not, tourists are going to visit the FKK`s & these guys need to get over it.[/QUOTE]

The concept of the European union includes the concept of free movement for its nationals. Last I heard the UK was a reluctant part of that European Union and one of the yellow stars on that blue flag represents the UK and another one represents Germany. Regardless that the British when asked to sign up originally thought the European Union was really going to be a trade agreement there are inherent benefits in being one power block.

Tourism would be part and parcel of that free movement. I know that London is awash with non locals. We welcome them as expected by a cosmopolitan city. I would be totally against the movement for secession.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]The concept of the European union includes the concept of free movement for its nationals. [/QUOTE]

Free movement, but no anonymous movement...i.e. a license plate in Texas is a plate of texas, that plate won't stand out differently in Houston as it would in Dallas. You could drive all over texas without anyone looking at you twice. But if your in Germany and in Viersen with a license plate starting with "DUS" the people all around you know that your not from Viersen.

So in a way its free travel...but travel the police can easily track. Only way for free anonymous travel in the EU would be to have a standard license plate with random numbers.

I am researching like crazy right now. A Saturday day trip from Stansted to Oase via Hahn is very doable. A weekend jaunt to Eindhoven also looking good.

As you can see I have decided not to squander my resources on valentines night. Very common thread at work in the last week is a guy saying "my life will be hell unless we do XYZ for valentines"

I will invest the saving in an FKK weekend
Z

[QUOTE=Basketcase]Danke schon[/QUOTE]"Thank you already"?

[QUOTE=Zelatrix]I am researching like crazy right now. A Saturday day trip from Stansted to Oase via Hahn is very doable. A weekend jaunt to Eindhoven also looking good.

As you can see I have decided not to squander my resources on valentines night. Very common thread at work in the last week is a guy saying "my life will be hell unless we do XYZ for valentines"

I will invest the saving in an FKK weekend
Z[/QUOTE]

Zelatrix,

Please find attached links to several of my June 2008 trip reports to Oase using HHN as an entry point include timings, prices paid, and practical information. Ignore the bits about girls, that is superfluous to this correspondence.

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Cheers,

Basketcase