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[QUOTE=GDreams;1951121]I have been more disappointed with the closure of the street stalls along Suk. How to take away the character of the place![/QUOTE]Are the Suk Street Bars all closed? I can understand them not opening over the weekend and they are usually closed Mondays so foes anyone know for how long they will be kept closed?
Everything I've read from any government official during the moaning period (30 days) is business as usual but. Do it behind close doors! These street bars with music wouldn't be behind close door.
Strolling through and around the Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Soi 24/1 and Soi 22 areas last night, Tuesday night, between 8 pm and 10 pm, with exceptions so rare I cannot even remember what they were, I saw virtually all go-go bars, outside beer bars, massage shops, BJ bars and the like open and operating as usual with the only difference being the music volume was mercifully turned down low enough to be heard while chatting and negotiating a ST or LT with a lady and there was no onstage nudity in bars that specialize in it like Crazy House. But their girls were clad in very sexy short black negligee nighties.
BTW, it seemed to me there were much better looking girls on stage and mingling among the (fewer than usual) customers at Crazy House than I have seen in a few weeks or months. Maybe it was because some of those girls look better in negligees and nighties than fully nude. But I also saw a lot of new faces on their stage. The girls sitting outside Kasalong Bar and L0lita's were wearing black or dark street clothes instead of their usual cute schoolgirl uniforms.
I would NOT recommend a monger cancel his planned trip to Bangkok right now, this very day. As of this writing, I see absolutely no reason to wait if what you are hoping to find is a ton of hot, young, eager P4 P girls plying their trade in the bars, on the street, all the usual places around town (but I did not go to Patpong or the Saphan Khwai areas last night, so I can not speak from first hand observation on those areas).
If anything, it appears to me that the girls are more eager and ready than ever to get your business and earn their money. I would say this particular time, right now, is very much a major Buyer's Market around here, guys. Unless there is an unexpected and dramatic change in the mood of the authorities on the ground about it (always possible, I suppose), if you have a trip planned and are now considering cancelling it; DON'T cancel it. And if you already cancelled a planned trip for right about now, hate to say it but I think you made a big mistake.
[QUOTE=WeewillyWinkie;1951300]Are the Suk Street Bars all closed? I can understand them not opening over the weekend and they are usually closed Mondays so foes anyone know for how long they will be kept closed?[/QUOTE]The Sukhumvit street bars and shops were forced to close much before the death of the king. That closure has nothing to do with mourning. It is a part of street clean up op undertaken by the cops. There were police patrols all along suk between soi 3 to 19 and during my recent visit I even saw a notice put up by the police between soi 11-13 asking people about their opinion regarding this clean up drive.
I was out last night too. I din't go to Nana bust stayed between Soi 11 and 15.
Thermae was open, descent selection, but closed at 12. Oskars as well. I was in Levels and they closed a little before 1 Am. One of the Farang managers made an announcement in the middle of a song that we had to leave.
After that the cops went around closing all bars and restaurants on Soi 11, including the German Beer Garden on Soi 11 (not the one on Soi 7) where many people from Levels ended up at.
I was meeting a girl I met on the internet for a date and she was running late nd all these places kept closing before we could meet. The cops came in just as we were sitign down to order at Beer Garden and they would not serve us after that. We finally met and took a taxi up to Soi 22 but everything was closed there as well.
We ended up at Margarita station on Sukhumvit (Soi 13? It was the only place we could find that was open. We left pretty late almost 5 AM. But it was pretty dead in there and this is perhaps why the cops let it be.
So things have not quite gotten back to normal. Still a testy period. Btu I think it will pass in a week or two at the most.
Bar's in Nana and Cowboy closed yesterday sharp at midnight. Insanity was open again, but closed at 1 am.
Was the other day in Narz, it closed at 2 am.
It's fun, everything is so damn concentrated on an couple hours. The girls in the various places much more eager to please, as they searching hard in the few hours they have to find a "soulmate" for the night. Saw way less girls starring bored at their phones as usual. They are all on their feet's and looming around to find someone.
Just start the night a bit earlier as usual, lets say at 6 or 7 pm. And you will have plenty fun even now in Bangkok. My line app won't get quiet at the moment. All contact's I have popping up on a daily basis as the girls looking for additional income. They still have the same bill's to pay, but less income.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1951594]I was out last night too. I din't go to Nana bust stayed between Soi 11 and 15.
Thermae was open, descent selection, but closed at 12. Oskars as well. I was in Levels and they closed a little before 1 Am. One of the Farang managers made an announcement in the middle of a song that we had to leave.
After that the cops went around closing all bars and restaurants on Soi 11, including the German Beer Garden on Soi 11 (not the one on Soi 7) where many people from Levels ended up at.
I was meeting a girl I met on the internet for a date and she was running late nd all these places kept closing before we could meet. The cops came in just as we were sitign down to order at Beer Garden and they would not serve us after that. We finally met and took a taxi up to Soi 22 but everything was closed there as well.
[/QUOTE]My advice to all, is to move forward your evening to times not so late. In my case, my mongering evening has generally been between 8. 30 PM and 1 AM for years. Sometimes I would meet girls even before the bars opened. I have been known to hang around later at Cart Bars with good music and fresh air.
Then again I don't like discos much due to noise and bad sound quality in some, lack of proper music rather than thumping and weird screeches, difficulty to converse, smoke or foul air in some places. Too old to get it. LOL So obviously biased.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1951797]My advice to all, is to move forward your evening to times not so late.[/QUOTE]Good advice until things get back to normal.
It seems that the Disco FL scene is really suffering the most now as it always starts so late.
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;1951371]The Sukhumvit street bars and shops were forced to close much before the death of the king. That closure has nothing to do with mourning. It is a part of street clean up op undertaken by the cops. There were police patrols all along suk between soi 3 to 19 and during my recent visit I even saw a notice put up by the police between soi 11-13 asking people about their opinion regarding this clean up drive.[/QUOTE]Yes I saw that public enquiry too. Speaking of a "leading question": "Do you agree with the measure to restrict the shopping stalls on Sukhumvit road" and a list of numbers that show an at least 80% positive reply by responders in the previous days. Given that it is the Police themselves that run this enquiry and that there are at least 10 police-men at or around the place, it is a miracle they got any negative replies at all.
Yesterday, I made a quick call at Suzie Wong. It has re-opened and nothing really changed (similar girls as usual, I. E. Not the youngest or the skinniest, but a good mix of various types). The only difference with before was the lack of nudity. All girls wore lingerie (panties, bras, garterbalt and net stockings) in either white of black colors. I asked one girl (Nat, no. 97, white-blonde hair) what happened with the nude dancing and she said it was because of the King's death.
I paid her a ladydrink and she stayed with me for about 15 minutes until her next "dance" was due. There were two line-ups: those in white and those in black lingerie. No shows in between the line-ups yesterday.
I was too tired to barfine her yesterday (she quoted 4000 baht LT) but for the price of the LD she allowed me to play with her pussy (not shaven but closely trimmed) and tits (A-size with bullet nipples) while she stroked me. In that respect, it was business as usual in Suzie Wong, new owners and the death of the King notwithstanding.
I'll go back there again this evening and see if she's available.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1951900]It seems that the Disco FL scene is really suffering the most now as it always starts so late.[/QUOTE]Depends on what kind of freelancers. For part-timers from bars, restaurants, mall shops, and massage parlors, they would have to cut back on expenses and rely on their day-job salary, since they won't have enough time to get into after-work FL places, such as Hillary 2, Bangkok Beat, Climax, Insanity, Cave, Mixx, or Thermae.
Full-timers just shift to earlier time and have better chance due to less competition from part-timers. I'm in Thermae now typing this. At 11 pm on Thursday night, near 300 ladies in here. About 80-100 guys, so it's decent ratio for punters. I'm sure that it'd get more crowded on Friday and Saturday.
I went to Climax yesterday. They have 'Hello,' girls on Soi 11 to attract customers, with no cover charge incentive. There was no live music on stage, but the DJs were jamming. Plenty of regular FLs were working. The old manager said that they would close at midnight, for about a month. Told me to come back early, as they opened at 7 pm.
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I went to Climax yesterday. They have 'Hello,' girls on Soi 11 to attract customers, with no cover charge incentive. There was no live music on stage, but the DJs were jamming. Plenty of regular FLs were working. The old manager said that they would close at midnight, for about a month. Told me to come back early, as they opened at 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Is it still full of cigarette smoke? I can't stand that.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1951908]Yes I saw that public enquiry too. Speaking of a "leading question": "Do you agree with the measure to restrict the shopping stalls on Sukhumvit road" and a list of numbers that show an at least 80% positive reply by responders in the previous days. Given that it is the Police themselves that run this enquiry and that there are at least 10 police-men at or around the place, it is a miracle they got any negative replies at all.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right. Since it is a initiative by the police to shut these stalls, I doubt anyone would dare give a negative feedback and even if it is given, I doubt the police would accept it.
I really don't approve of this action as it deprives the means of earning for those poor hard working stall owners. Most of those stalls were owned and run by families as you could see them setting up the stalls in the evening and dismantling the same late in the night. It gave a cheap shopping option for tourists. I agree that walking along suk at night through these crowded stalls all along the way would take you more time to reach your destination. But do you think anyone is in a hurry?
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;1952049]Yes you are right. Since it is a initiative by the police to shut these stalls, I doubt anyone would dare give a negative feedback and even if it is given, I doubt the police would accept it.
I really don't approve of this action as it deprives the means of earning for those poor hard working stall owners. Most of those stalls were owned and run by families as you could see them setting up the stalls in the evening and dismantling the same late in the night. It gave a cheap shopping option for tourists. I agree that walking along suk at night through these crowded stalls all along the way would take you more time to reach your destination. But do you think anyone is in a hurry?[/QUOTE]Cheap shopping, nice talks, some bargainign but reasonably, I enjoyed these street vendors. It confirms me in my old feeeling that one day I will die without having understood how stupid police can be. Can you tell any single reasonable argument for closing these shops? Now a very pragmatic question: I will be there in 5 weeks: where can I find these vendors: any night market to buy some really cheap shirts for exampel? Where to go?
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;1952049]Yes you are right. Since it is a initiative by the police to shut these stalls, I doubt anyone would dare give a negative feedback and even if it is given, I doubt the police would accept it.
I really don't approve of this action as it deprives the means of earning for those poor hard working stall owners. Most of those stalls were owned and run by families as you could see them setting up the stalls in the evening and dismantling the same late in the night. It gave a cheap shopping option for tourists. I agree that walking along suk at night through these crowded stalls all along the way would take you more time to reach your destination. But do you think anyone is in a hurry?[/QUOTE]Are a lot of the vendors deaf / disabled running those stalls? Was this not one of the few places they could earn a living? Guess the bribes the Police got were not enough any more.