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On a side note, I was talking to one of my Colombiana friends down there who I have known for years. She is definately not one of the top earners and definately lacks in the looks dept but she said she is making about $3000 a month. Not bad.
Also, Went to Miami Club when I was there late on a Saturday night and the place was dead and awful.
Haven't been to Panama but I read past posts and thought I had a good idea of the ballbark price. But after some more recent posts, it seems the prices have gone up.
So what's the expected $. I'll narrow it down to girl at Venetos or Habanos. And some of the prices, someone quoted $150 for example, that's just for short time? Basically once your done the girl leaves or is that $150 for a set time like an hour?
[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1392039]Haven't been to Panama but I read past posts and thought I had a good idea of the ballbark price. But after some more recent posts, it seems the prices have gone up.
So what's the expected $. I'll narrow it down to girl at Venetos or Habanos. And some of the prices, someone quoted $150 for example, that's just for short time? Basically once your done the girl leaves or is that $150 for a set time like an hour?[/QUOTE]In Veneto or Habanos the girls are independents, so the price is fully negotiable. The girls will often ask for $150 or $200 or even more, if you counter them you can often get it down to $100. There are a lot of variables in this including how you counter them, what time of night it is, how busy it is etc.
The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys. To answer your other question- yes, that price is typically for 1 hour- since they are independents though, they are on their own clock. How long they stay is also negotiable and can also be affected by your ability to charm them and have they stay longer- if you want them too.
"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"
Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.
That aside, The problem is the few of us on ISG won't make a difference. The money down there is coming from the Business man who flys in stays at the MArriott and goes across the street to Habanos. His company is expensing the trip and he doesn't care if he pays $200.$300 for a hot colombian because its something different then his boring wife back home and its also $500 cheaper than the typical escort he is used to in Vegas. My chica friends down there tell me Monday is usually the best night because of all the new people in town for there business meetings, conventions et. Unfortunately as good as it sounds to try and keep the price down, us few on this board just won't make a difference. The only thing keeping the price where it is (at $150) is the sheer number of colombianas. If somehow the supply was cut in half I think the price would double.
Also, I saw two guys, down there at Venetos and Habanas on Friday and Saturday night. They had there mind made up they were going to pay no more than $85. 00 because that was the price at the massage parlor. They sat there nursing there beer all night Gawking at the girls, and getting rejected over and over again untill finally no othere girls would talk to them. It was sad. They looked pathetic. I see so many of these types at Habanos just sitting there oogling the chicas but either never making a move or being to cheap to do so and / or land one. To me thats just sad. Go have fun spend a few extra bucks and enjoy.
[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1392177]In Veneto or Habanos the girls are independents, so the price is fully negotiable. The girls will often ask for $150 or $200 or even more, if you counter them you can often get it down to $100. There are a lot of variables in this including how you counter them, what time of night it is, how busy it is etc.
The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys. To answer your other question- yes, that price is typically for 1 hour- since they are independents though, they are on their own clock. How long they stay is also negotiable and can also be affected by your ability to charm them and have they stay longer- if you want them too.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear the pricing created a nice healthly discussion on fair prices. Each fellow will pay what he wants in the long run. I just don't pay more than $120 and have never had a problem in the last 3 years I've been going to Panama. Will be there this weekend and will get the ground truth, but I seriously doubt I will have any problem.
Stay horny my friends
[QUOTE=Mfins; 1392383]"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"
Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.
That aside, The problem is the few of us on ISG won't make a difference. The money down there is coming from the Business man who flys in stays at the MArriott and goes across the street to Habanos. His company is expensing the trip and he doesn't care if he pays $200. $300 for a hot colombian because its something different then his boring wife back home and its also $500 cheaper than the typical escort he is used to in Vegas. My chica friends down there tell me Monday is usually the best night because of all the new people in town for there business meetings, conventions et. Unfortunately as good as it sounds to try and keep the price down, us few on this board just won't make a difference. The only thing keeping the price where it is (at $150) is the sheer number of colombianas. If somehow the supply was cut in half I think the price would double.
Also, I saw two guys, down there at Venetos and Habanas on Friday and Saturday night. They had there mind made up they were going to pay no more than $85. 00 because that was the price at the massage parlor. They sat there nursing there beer all night Gawking at the girls, and getting rejected over and over again untill finally no othere girls would talk to them. It was sad. They looked pathetic. I see so many of these types at Habanos just sitting there oogling the chicas but either never making a move or being to cheap to do so and / or land one. To me thats just sad. Go have fun spend a few extra bucks and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Mfins I totally agree, I've been there maybe 6-7 times. The last time I went, the women were all business. I have charm, and can talk to these women in spanish, and have a great time with them. I like to have a drink, eat with them, etc. But at the end of the day all they want is money. The chicas ALWAYS start at $150, I usually always bring them down to $100 which I am fine to pay. BUT if a chica I REALLY like is asking for $150 I will hop on it in a heart beat. You need to remember, these girls are gorgggeousseeeeeeeee. (colombiana off course) we don't have them in the states. All we have are asians, russions, few hispanics but nothing like colombianas. And in the states these girls ask for at least $500 for an hour. Top escort services. When I go down to Panama its a deal. Its hard to keep prices down. One time I met a colombiana at Veneto, and I was hungry. She was all business. I told her, before we go to my room, lets go grab a bite to eat. She said yes, but her friend was like no, don't waste your time, you should be making money. She ignored her friend and came with me to eat anyway. Thats alone should give you guys a good indication on how the women are like down in Panama.
Mfins love your Robotic comment haha
[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1392487]Nice to hear the pricing created a nice healthly discussion on fair prices. Each fellow will pay what he wants in the long run. I just don't pay more than $120 and have never had a problem in the last 3 years I've been going to Panama. Will be there this weekend and will get the ground truth, but I seriously doubt I will have any problem.
Stay horny my friends[/QUOTE]Yes Joey, have fun, I am jealous. Please report back, and have a great time in Panama.
[QUOTE=Mfins; 1392383]"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"
Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.[/QUOTE]No offense Mfins, I wasn't telling anyone what to do, more just stating a fact. The girls have organized and are trying to instill their own price points, if a large enough number of guys give into $150 without argument, they will go to $200, as some of them are already starting to do. Knowing the local economics makes this a little hard for me to swallow personally (in Colombia, the same girl will cost around $60-$70, and it takes a doctor almost 3 days to earn that) but to each his own.
I've been hitting these countries for about 25 years now and have watched the girls become steadily more "businesslike" as the number of guys coming down willing to pay whatever was asked (and sometimes tip on top of that) has increased. This topic has been talked to death on numerous boards and I've given up trying to stem the tide- instead I go to locals places in Panama with pretty girls that not too many gringos find their way to and try to hit Latin American cities which also have a lack of gringo presence.
A Colombian beauty on "badoo"
Quoted me U$600- for full service.
She wrote me this was a good deal.
Others would charge 1'000 euros for just saying "hello"
"badoo" has become a pros site with mostly fake entries.
[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1393503]No offense Mfins, I wasn't telling anyone what to do, more just stating a fact. The girls have organized and are trying to instill their own price points, if a large enough number of guys give into $150 without argument, they will go to $200, as some of them are already starting to do. Knowing the local economics makes this a little hard for me to swallow personally (in Colombia, the same girl will cost around $60-$70, and it takes a doctor almost 3 days to earn that) but to each his own.
I've been hitting these countries for about 25 years now and have watched the girls become steadily more "businesslike" as the number of guys coming down willing to pay whatever was asked (and sometimes tip on top of that) has increased. This topic has been talked to death on numerous boards and I've given up trying to stem the tide- instead I go to locals places in Panama with pretty girls that not too many gringos find their way to and try to hit Latin American cities which also have a lack of gringo presence.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Snipps;1393159]Yes Joey, have fun, I am jealous. Please report back, and have a great time in Panama.[/QUOTE]Hit all the spots last nite. Veneto, Habamos why ASCHE. Best selection was at Habamos. Mostly a Colombian crowd with girls asking for $125. $200. Enjoyed the scene at Habamos why Veneto. Hit ASCHE for the first time at around 2am. Too many people, too dark and couldn't tell the working girls from the regular girls. Maybe I hit it too late. But hard to size up any chica let alone walk around the club.
Yes, Asche is hard to tell, your local cab driver can help you determine that. I once went to ASCHE with my cabby and he spotted all of them out for me. How was the Veneto? Was is packed? A lot of chicas? Thanks
Pretty much all the girls at Ashe are some kind of pro- assume they all are and you'll seldom be wrong.
[QUOTE=Snipps;1394217]Yes, Asche is hard to tell, your local cab driver can help you determine that. I once went to ASCHE with my cabby and he spotted all of them out for me. How was the Veneto? Was is packed? A lot of chicas? Thanks[/QUOTE]FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.
Happy punting
[QUOTE=MiamiKevin; 1396217]so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you.
Happy punting[/QUOTE]Or she can go home again empty handed after paying the $20 and should try to make something?
[QUOTE=MiamiKevin; 1396217]FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.
Happy punting[/QUOTE]Garbage- Just as I think Panama is making a nice come back they pull this crap. Doesn't Veneto realize that 90% of the guys at the casino bar are only there and spending money because the girls are also there.
When I was there they didn't even have there show performing on the stage or the dancers in the carnival outfits.