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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453720] is there a luxe venue in Medellin or Bogota where you can really enjoy the girl buffet and the chase in addition to the catch and release? 🤣.[/QUOTE]There are two in Medellin, La Isla and Gusto. Gusto is an American bar / night club with freelancers. You can find some youtube video. La Isla is strip club with room on site. I think the high end clubs at Bogota are not as good because they are not that many girls or customers when I was there, and is much more expensive.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2453733]If it works out I look great and if it doesn't then I am a cheap ass hole. For those questioning the beauty. Comments from my friends in the states from seeing her pics. "I would fuck her every day" "Does she have any sisters:" I don't lick ass or toes and she got me doing that. I fucked about 60 girls so far. I am only claiming 3 to be 7 and 8..[/QUOTE]Too much information, I can see the toe licking, but the ass hole.
Don't fret though, there's other guys into that, besides banging them when they are on the rag bareback.
It's all good, unless of course things don't work out with your 8, than I guess you would be a "cheap ass, ass hole licker" but that's okay, we got guy's here into midgets, pregnant Chicas, and Sacaleros (glue-sniffers) so your in fine company here!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453663]Disclaimer: I have never been to Medellin but have traveled the world and seen girls of all stripes. I have been following Medellin because I may go there later this year and it turned out to be the most entertaining on ISG right now. I am also not a cheap Charlie. But I know a bad move when I see it.
And turning down a hottie for 7 days of continuous sex for the difference between $50 and $75 (which is $25 if you are paying attention. LOL) is patently insane. In fact the more you want her to submit and like you as a girlfriend the more likely you are to get girlfriend behavior and I don't mean the good kind. I mean entitled and whiny. Pay her a good wage and call it a day!
I know you even if ubare cheap u are not silly enough to argue over $25. So it's a pride thing and an attitude thing. Just get over it. 200 for 20 days was crazy and unrealistic. 200 for two days is a good deal! 300 for 7 days is a great deal! Just get over yourself. At least that is my POV.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I learned that people have very different ideas when it comes to paying money for pussy. This is especially true for Medellin aficionados. A beer in gusto costs 8 dollars after tip, my breakfast at Starbucks this morning costed 22 dollars. I'm sure if people can afford to monger internationally, they will consider 25 bucks pocket change. I think the fun is in the negotiation itself.
I've traveled 40+ countries, mongering is an integral part of my travels. I would say Medellin is tied for the number one mongering spot with Brazil in my book.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2453734]The report by Routard is fabulous. I've never mongered in S America. Would love to try. As you and I have frequented and reported on the same countries and venues in other threads, I would like to ask this: how does Colombia, and indeed S America compare with German FKKs and the options in Spain from Vive Madrid to Estark 92. I like latina looking girls but don't like a big ass on ladies. Would be interested in yours (and others) thoughts on the comparisons. I love Thailand because it is cheap and the options are plentiful, and I consider it fairly safe. Have had friends mugged in Rio. Comments appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't want to hijack this thread talking too much about places other than Medellin, so I will just say this much and leave it alone. You won't find anything like German FKKs in Colombia. The action is going to be more like what you will find in Madrid or Barcelona. Colombian girls are very pretty and friendly, and come in all kinds of shapes and sizes and shades of color. You don't like a big ass no problem. There would be plenty for you to choose from. I have humped many in Spain, Costa Rica, and Colombia itself. Even a few in Germany!
Now, my number one destination in the world is in S. America in Brazil. Why? Because I do love a plump, round, bouncy booty and the Brazilian girls specialize in this with their big "bundas". Now, it isn't that you can't find anything else in Brazil. You can and I have, and I've posted the photos over the years to prove it. It's just that if you like having anal sex with really pretty, big butt girls, then Brazil is heaven on this earth!
I will conclude with saying that the termas in Rio are based on a concept very similar to the German FKKs, but they tend not to be as big or nice. But those Brazilian girls are some kinda good in the sack! The best! And nobody cornholes as good as they do, except for Russian tutes maybe LOL! The best way to learn about Colombia or Brazil is to read several of the Reports of Distinction in the appropriate threads. As many as you can. Even if they are old, you will learn so much. Then you can follow up with questions to mongers in the know about each destination.
Sorry if this post annoys you guys who only want to read about Medellin. I just wanted to share a little of what I know, and I will make no other comparisons here.
I think Loutron is up there if it is still a viable business. Full disclosure, I haven't been to the place in 10+ years.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2453736]There are two in Medellin, La Isla and Gusto. Gusto is an American bar / night club with freelancers. You can find some youtube video. La Isla is strip club with room on site. I think the high end clubs at Bogota are not as good because they are not that many girls or customers when I was there, and is much more expensive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453720]True I love my luxe venues almost as much as the girls. But I had a forum buddy down in Medellin doing all Facebook girls, no street. And vids and pics he was sending. Wow! I love my Latinas.
I am traveling to Bogota but it seems less good than Medellin. And a flight is $15 LOL. Open to commentary from any experienced members here on the relative merits.
Not that I am into over paying a girl but is there a luxe venue in Medellin or Bogota where you can really enjoy the girl buffet and the chase in addition to the catch and release? 🤣.[/QUOTE]Agree with DramaFree11. Try this venue in Bogota: [URL]https://twitter.com/flirtbogota[/URL] [URL]http://flirthotelbogota.com/en/[/URL].
It's Like a Gusto nightclub ass, very hygienic. Matter of fact she is totally hygienic except when it comes to sex. Not the veracruz ass behind the church or on calle 53. When she strip dances she puts my face between them cheeks I just find myself all in. Maybe that's why I am going to be fucking her 24 hours for $12 a day. Maybe it's the dick. A midget nah unless she pretty as fuck. Pregnant woman nah not me. On her period nah not me. 60 girls this trip and she's the only one. I am straight bro. Put me in any category you want.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2453737]Too much information, I can see the toe licking, but the ass hole.
Don't fret though, there's other guys into that, besides banging them when they are on the rag bareback.
It's all good, unless of course things don't work out with your 8, than I guess you would be a "cheap ass, ass hole licker" but that's okay, we got guy's here into midgets, pregnant Chicas, and Sacaleros (glue-sniffers) so your in fine company here![/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2453734]The report by Routard is fabulous. I've never mongered in S America. Would love to try. As you and I have frequented and reported on the same countries and venues in other threads, I would like to ask this: how does Colombia, and indeed S America compare with German FKKs and the options in Spain from Vive Madrid to Estark 92. I like latina looking girls but don't like a big ass on ladies. Would be interested in yours (and others) thoughts on the comparisons. I love Thailand because it is cheap and the options are plentiful, and I consider it fairly safe. Have had friends mugged in Rio. Comments appreciated.[/QUOTE]OMFG Routards dick must have long ago fallen off to have been to that many clubs and have that encyclopedic knowledge. That report is nothing short of a work of art. It would take 150 pages of ISG to cover all that by happenstance.
Reminds me now of London. Most people say London sucks. Well they just don't know what the fuck they are doing. Once you know what the fuck you are doing its awesome. Same with Moscow. Same with Japan. I was under the clearly mistaken impression that there was only the Zona because that was all anyone talked about in the Bogota thread. OMFG. Routard has given me the secret decoder ring. My dick will be forever grateful!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2453736]There are two in Medellin, La Isla and Gusto. Gusto is an American bar / night club with freelancers. You can find some youtube video. La Isla is strip club with room on site. I think the high end clubs at Bogota are not as good because they are not that many girls or customers when I was there, and is much more expensive.[/QUOTE]All good, however, not to the same caliber as Scandalo in SP.
IMO.
Not even close really.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2453725]A lot of people will tell you that Medellin is better. However for me, although I like Medellin better as a city, I found Bogota to be a far superior mongering destination. As the capital, it's just a lot bigger with way, way, way more action to offer. Medellin simply can't match the variety of options that Bogota presents. Check out this report from Routard. It is the most comprehensive report I have ever seen on Bogota, and one of the most thorough reports on any destination I have ever read. And it's accurate too. For awhile, he was updating it every year, but I don't recall seeing an update since this version. In any event, this information will serve you well. If you have a chance, you should sample Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and Cali (I did not like Barranquilla enough to recommend it, and I never made it to Santa Marta). But if you have to do just one and only one, I would go with Bogota: [POST]2241562[/POST].[/QUOTE]Yup. Bogota is a much bigger city and will have many more options for chicas than Medellin. But MDE has better weather and is a more pleasant city.
Sorry but I do not agree with your statement. If you like the vera cruz / el Centro scene then yes you are right. I have a long list of girls that are primarily facebook girls that have great figures and by no means are fat. As far as food, there are some really good restaurants in the Poblado area and some in Laureles. Medellin is a big city, don't generalize what you see in el centro as all of Medellin
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2453732]If you are into tall and skinny girls, MDE is not the place. Not to mention real bad food and even worse service. Nothing like the other places you have hang out. If you are in Bogota, and cheap flights are available check it out, but I real think you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2453851]Sorry but I do not agree with your statement. If you like the vera cruz / el Centro scene then yes you are right. I have a long list of girls that are primarily facebook girls that have great figures and by no means are fat. As far as food, there are some really good restaurants in the Poblado area and some in Laureles. Medellin is a big city, don't generalize what you see in el centro as all of Medellin.[/QUOTE]A lot of people judge the food and service in Medellin based upon US standards. Their taste buds are addicted to the high salt and sugar content and they can't enjoy the taste of real food.
As for service, most seem to think having a waiter interrupt your meal every 4 minutes is great service. It isn't. It's designed to get you out of the restaurant as soon as possible, or to get you to spend more money. If you can have a long conversation without interruption, you might spend an hour or more occupying that table. Fortunately, for the restaurant, there's a waiter who will ask if you need dessert, if you need more drinks, if you need anything else. Until you pay and leave.
Colombian service is simple. If you want something, ask for it. If you don't want something, enjoy yourself. I've sat with a group of Colombians in a restaurant 30 minutes after closing, with the entire staff waiting patiently and quietly to close and leave. Try that at Applebee's. All you need to do to get perfect service in Colombia is learn how to raise your hand slightly and make eye contact.
As for the food, I'd rather spend $3 for a complete lunch including real fruit juice than $13 on a burger and fries.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2453755] I was under the clearly mistaken impression that there was only the Zona because that was all anyone talked about in the Bogota thread. OMFG.[/QUOTE]The Zona may be the best value in the world right now. To be able to bang a 9 or 10 for peanuts like $20 for an hour or $100 for a night (and some would say even that is overpaying) is unlike any experience I have seen.
But Steve, do not think that if you go outside the Zona you will get better value from a looks and performance perspective because you won't.
Looks and performance wise, if I am being honest, I would put the Brazilians ahead of the Colombians but the Brazilians are not as loyal. The Venezuelans beat the Colombians as well but they are transactional and IMO less trust worthy.
What is special about the Colombian experience, and it is not all the women but a lot of them, is their upbeat attitude and genuine desire to please.
Just today, one sugar baby prospect sent me a video that she was going to drive me like a Nascar car, and I have only video chatted with her.
Another says that she cannot wait until she can lie in my arms all night long, and I have not met her in person either.
When I was on a trip with one of my SBs, she put lotion into our shopping cart and when I asked her what it was for, she said, "So I can give you a back rub every night. ", and she did for at least 30 minutes every night without my even having to ask.
Yeah, Bogota is the place to go for the best and cheapest sex, but for me, that is only a fraction of the overall experience.
Anyone with info on lleras park. Slapshot or anyone please clue me in.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2453908]Anyone with info on lleras park. Slapshot or anyone please clue me in.[/QUOTE]Just checked. Hooters GM thinks end of June. From what I have seen, a lot of places have shut down. Not sure if there will need to be re-investment to get everything back up to speed, or if it's just a facade.
By the way, your prices and haggling, combined with my cosy situation, have absolutely soured me on the process of finding chicas on FB / WA / Tinder / SA. All these 200-250 quotes now seem overpriced, because I've had 2-day threesomes for less, and it's a fucking quarantine. I expect girls to be more desperate to negotiate. I had a Vennie, say $500 USD for a few hours, today. Now, she is fucking hot, and can be found on SA, but fuck. First off, you quote me in USD, and it's already game over. Second, you send pics / vids and say you are living with your friend to do some modeling for money. Then try to gouge me? I laughed at her and explained the above. 2. 000.000 for a few hours. Blakman's heart has been working over-time, this past week, I think if I paid that much it might turn out to be the last straw.
I spent hours yesterday talking to more than a dozen girls. Pico / cedula, too expensive, second wave of photos weren't as good as advertised, etc etc etc. I spent a couple hours today going back and forth with a half-dozen girls. Nothing. I can't pull the trigger. I don't know what it is. Somebody tase me!
I think I just need to accept that 150.000 ($40) or 250.000 ($66) doesn't really matter. I should focus more on if I want to fuck, and if I want more than their offer of one hour / one fuck / whatever.
All you guys stuck out of the country have it easy! .
Oh, non-ISG-related, I got so excited about this build-up for the Matarife documentary about the former president, etc. I sat down for dinner, pull up YouTube, click on Chapter / Episode 1. It's fucking 6 minutes! Stupid shit.