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The bar girl does NOT have a passport hence singapore is out of questions. My understanding is that in Singapore you can only get assistance if you have a working visa or PR anyway. Thanks for your help anyway.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech]Cytotech: Some write-up: Any abortion carries risk, but women who attempt the procedure by themselves with Cytotec are assuming considerable risks. They may not know the proper dose to use, how far along their pregnancy is, and that dangerous heavy bleeding can result. "Women who self-induce may not know when to get help," says Dr. Emily Godfrey, family medicine professor at University of Illinois at Chicago. "They frequently delay their medical care and can suffer serious consequences, including death."

But when used in the first trimester, Cytotec, often referred to by its chemical name misoprostol, is less risky than other underground abortion methods. The drug works by loosening the cervix and causing the uterus to contract. Women who have taken Cytotec “are not necessarily completing [the abortion] on their own, but they're initiating the process," explains Godfrey, who also serves as a board member of the Association of Reproductive Health Professionals. "They often show up to emergency rooms, are told they are having a spontaneous miscarriage and are offered a completion."

have seen some girls do it in Singapore, as the law forbids maid from getting pregnant - and 9 out of 10 ended in hospital with heavy bleeding ..

As I say - if the guy is sure, and it is his child, and in the very unlikely scenario that the woman consents to the abortion - it would be safer to get Gynae help - talking about which, one of the gynae I worked with before said it is allowed by law.

But if the girl is worried, and the guy is really concerned, she can always fly out to Singapore and get it done legally, upto 10 weeks into pregnancy .. (it is just a day operation, and a couple of days of bed rest .. and costs about 600 S$)

I would strongly not suggest underground pills/vodka/beer+paracetamol - as most filipinas recommend as induced abortion- the chance of messing things up is more ...

PS: Never trust a girl's word for being 3 weeks into pregnancy - she maybe more into her pregnancy, but hiding it to make the 'dates' match ... my 2 cents .. seek proper medical care to appraise if she is 3 weeks or 3 months into pregnancy ..[/QUOTE]

He has taken her to a doctor/gyno and it was done via one of HIS contacts. Dates match. Yes, I understand that there could have been few others around the time but he kept her for few days so it is very possible that it is his. Bottom line is he wants to do the right thing for him and the girl and why have it on your conscience if all it takes is few dollars.

[QUOTE=Ajacobson]Prostitution is illegal in the Philippines as well:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Philippines[/url]

I'm sure even corruption is illegal in the Philippines, LOL.

Really gotta love this country... I often wonder why they even go through the effort of passing laws.[/QUOTE]
Even here in USA there are many laws in the books which are enforcable. But in reality I have not heard of anybody being prosecuted even when they end up in the hospital because of complications.
In a third world country they have more pressing issues rather than going after people who perform abortions.
I would strongly suggest for this girl to ALONE to the gynaecologist and ask for the abortion saying sad story about poor, bf left etc. I am sure she will be helped. If the foreigner guy goes with her there will e a ig problem least of which is the gyn saying abortion is illegal in Phi. He will charges exorbitant money, maybe made to sign papers saying he is the father etc.
What is at stake here is,
Is the girl really willing to have an abortion?
If she says no, there is nothing the guy can do.

Maybe the guy should tell this girl that he wants genetic test done to accept the baby as his.

Even bargirls tend to want the baby firstly because they want to experience motherhood, secondly what is better than a foreigner supporting her and her baby, thirdly maybe better future for her and the baby if the foreigner sponsors for immigration.
I know of one girl in AC whose son lives in Australia with his father. This girl tried living in there but did not like it or had a Phi bf who was waiting.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray]In the past 5 days I have had two DIA dates with lovely, sweet, pleasant, horny gals, each of whom ended up providing delightfully steamy sinuations in bed all night at my place. Interestingly, each of them also began sending rapid-fire texts the very next day begging me to lend them money (3000 p) for rent, and/or food.[/QUOTE]
If those DIA girls were a little more tactful, they would not wait until the next day and ask you to your face!
[QUOTE=MauiDude]I have a few girls and i give them about 10,000 pesos allowance per month.[/QUOTE]
I would hope you are not sending your girls a monthly allowance while you are absent!

It maybe to late for me since I am leaving in 2 days to my first experience there in the Philippines, but should I have went to get any shots at all?

Someone was telling me, I should get a Hep. A and B shot as well as Tetanus. Is this true?

[QUOTE=Mc Don]The bar girl does NOT have a passport hence singapore is out of questions. My understanding is that in Singapore you can only get assistance if you have a working visa or PR anyway. Thanks for your help anyway.[/QUOTE]As a last resort, passport can be arranged in a couple of days LEGALLY - not any illegal means, unless she is digging in deeper with more excuses such as no birth certification, no NBI clearence .. etc. etc. etc ..

Anyway, to make the story short, Singapore has no restriction on foreigners getting abortion, though PRs and Citizens get is subsidized, so where a local/PR pays about 200S$, a foreigner (that includes those on Work Pass) pay upto or more than 800S$

Here is the silly part - to rub it in: Maids/Student pass holders can't be pregnant, as they are subject to every quarterly or half yearly medical+pregnancy test, but the afforementioned can get legal abortion done at the many private clinics legally !!!

As for Cytotech, while it is available as prescription drug, gynaes discourage the use, as more often, heavy bleeding or wrong counting - like the girl maybe 3 months into the pregnancy but claim to be 3 weeks - can lead to severe complication and even lead to virtually zero chance of conceiving again ..

[QUOTE=Mattrick]If those DIA girls were a little more tactful, they would not wait until the next day and ask you to your face!

I would hope you are not sending your girls a monthly allowance while you are absent![/QUOTE]Not going to argue on that.

I have met enough pinas, who let you spend a lot of money on partying and then when they ask money and you go "if you told me you need money, I would have played safer and instead of spending few thousand PHP in the bar, would have channelled to you. " and they stare at you like a screwed up moron.

I had one girl, who met me, spent time bar hopping, and buying LD for dancers. Grossed out about 5, 000 and honestly, I was flying off the next day and was left with just 2, 000 peso. And the girl shyly asks me if I can give her another 3, 000 on top of the 3, 000 I gave her, and when I tried reasoning that if she told that early, I would have slowed down on the bar bill, and would have stayed in the room and given her the 5000 I burnt in bars, it never entered her brain as to what I am telling her and she kept whining and crying.

Well, lesson: don't try to reason with most filipinas. Some are smart, but most have their brain waves twisted that reasoning is not in their to-do list.

Could anyone suggest on the best places they golfed at in the Philippines? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Red Wine]Could anyone suggest on the best places they golfed at in the Philippines? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Are you a serious golf connoisseur? Then you can check at Blue Horizons Travel - they organise Golf Tours.

[QUOTE=Zuhare Meri]It maybe to late for me since I am leaving in 2 days to my first experience there in the Philippines, but should I have went to get any shots at all?

Someone was telling me, I should get a Hep. A and B shot as well as Tetanus. Is this true?[/QUOTE]You are kidding right?

Hep needs double dose, seperated by 2 weeks or so I think.

As for Tetatus. Unless you plan to dip your willy into an iron maiden, I wouldn't care.

You can ask your GP for some regular anti-bio, and some vitamin supplements. To keep your immunity high.

[QUOTE=Red Wine]Could anyone suggest on the best places they golfed at in the Philippines? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Good resource:

[url]http://www.golfingphilippines.com[/url]

Tell us where you end up playing.

Enjoy!

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[QUOTE=Zuhare Meri]Someone was telling me, I should get a Hep. A and B shot as well as Tetanus. Is this true?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, would be better with those shots since Hep-B is transmitted by sexual contacts.
Too late anyway, for full Hep-B protection you need 3 shots over a period of 6 months.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yeah, would be better with those shots since Hep-B is transmitted by sexual contacts.

Too late anyway, for full Hep-B protection you need 3 shots over a period of 6 months.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction - yeah, it is 3 shots over six months.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]Sometimes girls will throw the I'm pregnant line as a ruse but assuming that hes confident shes pregnant and that its his, it is really bad news. I think many guys (myself included) would not be happy with either marrying the girl, nor supporting her financially for 20 years nor having a child of mine brought up in grinding poverty, so its a lose lose lose situation unless he can ensure she does get it aborted.[/QUOTE]I once had that fantastic girl from LAC back when you could still find jewels in there. She had a perfect body with lovely boobs (a 9 on my scale) but most of all she had a splendid character. I remember the time when she suck me for the first time, while chatting and laughing with her friend on the phone, and whenever we were gong out, she would always huge me and be just absolutely delightful (in or out for that matter).

Now these kind of girls are usually gone within a blink to other foreigners. They may appear a very short time on the P2P scene then no more - and this one was no exception, except that her French boyfriend was far and away. One day he phoned her and she made the silent sign with her finger then went to speak with him in one of the corner of the room, saying at some stage "oh darling, my stomach hurt"... I asked her why would she say this and she explained to me that she made her bf believe that she was pregnant, though it wasn't true...

Of course the guy was madly in love with her, as anybody would, so I am not sure why she played this game, but I have seen other girls play the same, plus some others actually wanting a baby from their bf for the simple reason that they would get them more involved...

I am not sure what she or the family could actually do from a legal point of view when it comes to a foreigner, but fact is that the scenario is so common coming from Filipino lovers (make them pregnant then leave) that about 80% of the girls I met in LAC or otherwise were in the case, and many times it was actually the reason why they entered the 2P2 scene in the first place, as they now had to feed and take care of that baby all by themselves.

[QUOTE=Mc Don]The bar girl does NOT have a passport hence singapore is out of questions. My understanding is that in Singapore you can only get assistance if you have a working visa or PR anyway. Thanks for your help anyway.[/QUOTE]Besides, even if she had a passport, I am not sure she would get a visa. "I want to perform an abortion" - is that a motive they would accept?