FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Puff Time]

4. Can you recommend Palace as a venue to pop my FKK cherry?

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Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.

I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.

Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.

Cheers,
WBS

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.

I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.

Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.

Cheers,
WBS[/QUOTE]

Once again (is this the 100th time??): It is not the club that rips you off, but an individual girl who happens on that day to be working at Palace. If you read any of these reports about almost any FKK club, you will see that girls move in between clubs. LBC reported just today a Romanian girl who alternates between clubs on a day to day basis. So who's to say this "Lebanese" Romanian won't be at Oase tomorrow?

The point, yet again, is that it is often the monger's own fault (at least in party) when he experiences a bad/dud session. Did you select the girl carefully? Did you observe how she interacts with other men; what her prior customers show by their body lingo/faces at the pay lockers? Did you explain exactly what you want before you comitted to a session with her? Did you attempt to test the chemistry on the couch or in Kino? Did you give off newbie signals? Are you so naieve that you cannot yourself tell the difference between a Lebanese and Romanian? Who does she hang with? Other Romanians?

As for ripp offs: one must define in detail your experience with the girl before it can be called a ripp-off case. There is a difference between having a lack-lustre/dissatisfying session and being ripped off, no?

Let's not automatically blame the club just because you happened to make a mistake in your girl selection. If you double fault on the tennis court, don't blame the racket. Don't think that the same thing might not happen in another club, like Oase, Word or GT...

As for the "condition" of Palace these days: I was there recently and found it in tip-top form.

Ortos

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.
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O.K. Czech Linda is gone plus another old favourite, but I would say the Palace was as good as ever last Saturday night. I will certainly keep returning to moderately busy times when the hot girls are there.

I have some ideas which girls to avoid, but sorry I don't know their names, however if they act like sharks, they probably are.

[QUOTE=Checkers1]Are you sure the name of the first girl was Darius and not Doda/Dado? I haven't seen Dado/Doda for a long time.[/QUOTE]My best description is a Romanian short blond hair, around 5 ft 6' without shoes. Slim with some meat from behind. The problem is there are a number of females that fit that description. She wore a colorful belts that doesn't cover her ass. That the best I describe of her. I saw here twice the 2 days I was there.

I was approached by her stating that she wanted me because she though I was fresh meat to the place. My friend been there before and she recognizes him. She didn't seem to rush and was able to talk a bit dirty so I went along with it. I'm not even sure if my friend had her. I'm starting to lose count after a while. Just going out to have good time.

[QUOTE=West By Sun]

I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.
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Can you explain why things didnt work out? Just the mention of her being Romanian ruined it for you? In my book, if the girls hot and naked and turns you on (im assuming she did for you, otherwise you wouldnt have taken her to a room) that's all that's needed. Religion, heritage, political stance...all means nothing in the room....as long as she's naked and sex is on the docket.

[QUOTE=Ortos] It is not the club that rips you off, but an individual girl who happens on that day to be working at Palace.

Let's not automatically blame the club just because you happened to make a mistake in your girl selection. [/QUOTE]

Your correct to a point...the girl could possibly be moving from club to club. New talent always get more attention than the girls who've been there forever. I've only been here once and im willing to give it another shot. There are sharks at every club. If you get bad service you just have to write it off. You get bad service...and an upcharge that's not expected...and management siding with the girl...that on the other hand is a bit hard to swallow. no pun intended.

Salute West By Sun,

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the warning West By Sun. I am not expected to be back in Palace until some time. Maybe April since a crew gathering is occuring then. Sorry to hear Palace is not in good condition.

[QUOTE=West By Sun] I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.[/QUOTE]

I am wondering if the girl you referred had humongous tits, had bleached blond hair, good tan, a babyish looking face and big brown eyes? I have attached a quote from my Oase trip report where I noted Lisa (Lebanon) as a new girl at Oase but I have not seen her since her debut at Oase.

[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase] Lisa (?) (Lebanon) NEW GIRL at Oase, 20 years with 19 years spent living in Germany, young looking face, average build, well tanned, bleached long blond hair, big natural D or E cups that looked heavenly as she loped around Oase club. The Deustch table area girls were talking about her and nick named her “Big Tits” such was the selling point that Lisa’s assets had. The girls said it does not matter how good looking a girl is and what a body she has – if her service is no good then she will not get the business at Oase. My observation of Lisa in action in the kino is a smooth operator that delivers the goods. [/QUOTE]

Lisa had started at 9pm coming into the club wearing a thick pink wooly jersey and blue jeans and was shown around by one of the receptionists before getting naked bar a pair of high heeled shoes and a black cloth belt around her waist.

I wanted to try out the new girl as she had all the toys a man could want - lovely tits, nice tan legs but another bloke got there before I did having the same idea catching her as she exited the ladies changing area.

Is Lisa from Oase the same girl that you experienced at Palace? She seems new and she is trying the different Hesse clubs before deciding on one to work at.

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session. [/QUOTE]

Lucia (Italy/Romania) at Oase gets mixed reviews - good and bad but always seemed to me professional and does the business as you say.

I agree, Timea (Hungary) at Oase, the bigger auburn haired one is a great session at Oase and Magda (Polen) at Oase is a lot fun too. I love her intense eye contact when sucking your dick.

Cheers,

Londonbasketcase

[QUOTE=West By Sun]I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, some Lebanese (Romanian) girl. I've heard some Spanish girl is a shark, but thanks for telling us to watch out for some Lebanese/Romanian girl.

Seriously, how about a name and some details as to what transpired. That might be useful information to the forum.

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I know Lucia (DR if memory serves). She tried to claim we went over half an hour when we didn't. I stood my ground and she backed down. So how is that any different from your complaint regarding Palace? Should not I conclude that Oase is full of sharks and management does nothing about it?

[QUOTE=Radler]
Yep, I know Lucia (DR if memory serves). She tried to claim we went over half an hour when we didn't. I stood my ground and she backed down. So how is that any different from your complaint regarding Palace? Should not I conclude that Oase is full of sharks and management does nothing about it?[/QUOTE]
I know there are many fans of Verona @ Oase, but she does upsell anal & constantly upsells CIM. I first sessioned with her 2 yrs ago & she was an average session then. After some great reviews, sessioned with her again in August 2008. The session was better than the last one & she give above average service, but after 1 hr, complained she worked really hard on the bj & demanded an extra 50E. I thought she was joking, but she was serious. I never agreed to CIM & I did not even finish so I did not understand what her problem was. I suggested to talk to the front desk, but she just stormed off.

This was one of the few bad apples I have had @ Oase, but should I also include Oase as shark infested & avoid @ all costs? No. I just shrugged my shoulders as I have a long list of ATF's @ Oase. Women have tried to cheat me more @ Oase than in any other club. If you have some experience & use some common FKK/sex sence, then any guy should be fine in Palace.

Isabella Romanian/Hungarian does not kiss (extra) & a typical sport fu*k, but looks really hot was an ok session. No passionate & zero gfe, but works @ Oase. Alia from Germany also does not kiss, but everyone seems to pick on Palace as the only club where kissing is not included or extra.

West had a bad experience & thinks the entire club is in bad condition. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but some of the Palace bashing is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Ortos]Once again (is this the 100th time??): It is not the club that rips you off, but an individual girl who happens on that day to be working at Palace. If you read any of these reports about almost any FKK club, you will see that girls move in between clubs. LBC reported just today a Romanian girl who alternates between clubs on a day to day basis. So who's to say this "Lebanese" Romanian won't be at Oase tomorrow?[/QUOTE]

Yep, the topic never grows old for some people. The real Frequently Asked Question seems to be: "I'm a newbee, should I go to Palace". I'm going to go through the forum this weekend and create a FAQ with a link to a post from every senior member that has expressed an opinion on the subject.

[QUOTE=Ortos]The point, yet again, is that it is often the monger's own fault (at least in party) when he experiences a bad/dud session. Did you select the girl carefully? Did you observe how she interacts with other men; what her prior customers show by their body lingo/faces at the pay lockers? Did you explain exactly what you want before you comitted to a session with her? Did you attempt to test the chemistry on the couch or in Kino? Did you give off newbie signals? Are you so naieve that you cannot yourself tell the difference between a Lebanese and Romanian? Who does she hang with? Other Romanians?[/QUOTE]

I'm wondering if there is a correlation between bad service and the rising trend of people people using down time for what I consider non-productive activities at an FKK. Downtime between sessions is for observation of and interaction with the ladies. Increasingly, mongers want to socialize with a crew of other ISGer rather than using spending time observing and interacting. Plus, a large group of English speakers hanging out screams "sex tourists" to the ladies.

Granted there are benefits with sharing intel with other mongers, but your radar will atrophy if you spend your between session time BSing with other men.

Another recent trend seems to be mongers who want to use their laptops, play cards, read a book, sleep, watch sporting events, etc. at clubs. Pretty much anything except observing the beautiful naked women. Ok, I can understand getting a few winks in the Kino if you are jet lagged or watching a major sporting event (World Cup finals or home country playing, Super Bowl for yanks) but put away the cards and observe and interact with the naked women.

Hi Guys,

I will be visiting Frankfurt in the coming saturday and will be there just for 1 night.Please advice me where should i go? Should i explore the RLD near the train station or i should go to any FKK Clubs.If clubs are better which is the best place to go as i dont have time.Also please let me know the prices in all the places.

Thanks in advance.

Hello guys,

Basically it is me who am stupid and naive as Ortos said. But i can not be a profound observer like him.

As far as I know, there is the only one girl who is claiming to be a Libanese. She was surprised when I began to talk to her in french because she can not hyde her inability of french langage while speaking in french with me. But as I always have big probleme of english, so I do not care of other people's langage skill.

Radler, I don't want to mention her name. However I am sure you know her. She has an arabian name and huge tits.

LBC, the girl I refered as "another girl" is Angelina.

Mick Licker, the only good thing for me in last Saturday night was Lina. She is coming back, got so fat and became so boomy. It seems she is less aggressive than two or three years ago. Except that, the lineup was dead for me.

VC, no, the bad condition I talked about is purely as to lukewarm lineup. The lastweek was in the valley between two big messe periods.

The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that it was under 20 minutes. This is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price. The reception lady was not my dear Meggi but another unknown blonde lady. She believed a falsified Libanese's lie.

Cheers,
WBS

[QUOTE=West By Sun]

The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that was under 20 minutes, this is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price.[/QUOTE]

Have to ask, were you wearing a watch when this happened?

[QUOTE=Sex Hunk]I will be visiting Frankfurt in the coming saturday and will be there just for 1 night.Please advice me where should i go? Should i explore the RLD near the train station or i should go to any FKK Clubs.If clubs are better which is the best place to go as i dont have time.Also please let me know the prices in all the places.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Wotcher Sex Hunk,

There is a messe in FFM from Sammstag, 31 Januar to Dientstag, 3 Februar so you will be in for a treat if you are in town since the place will be hopping with delegates from around der Welt. It will be a party town like Newquay with so much international guests to mingle with. Maybe you do not need to go to the RLD or a FKK since there are pickings to be had in open play being social with the ladies in attendance at the Messe or even local Hesse frauleins wanting a bit of foreign schwanz.

I sometimes get advised by the girls to have a look around FFM town and that I would enjoy it since it is so international, they say I would be able to meet some nice people there being what I am, but they suspect that the shopping is much better in my local home town than the Zeil.

If you really must punt start off from the FFM Hbf and head across the road to the RLD and see what you can get for €30 a pop suck and fuck with the Eastern European, Asian and African ladies there in the Eros Centres. You have to be well fit to handle the stairs up and down to see all the girlies in their rented room in those Eros Centres. Wrap up warm and bring your wits for negotiating and sensing the good girls.

You will be not alone in your hunt for good providers there. Usually there is an international crowd doing the rounds as well as you. Think people from obviously Deutschland, Frankreich, Osterreich, Italy, Griechenland, Ireland, Espana, Turkei, Rusland, even the odd one from Gross Britannia. English is widely spoken and for some girls it is preferred. It is also good sport to avoid the strip club touts that try to draw you into their venue with €5 entritt and then whatever else for drinks and dances with the questionable ladies therein. Spend some time in the porn shops that are strewn around the RLD and take in a sex kino experience and knock out your first one with your hand for frei while watching Silvia Saint take one up the jaxsie by some well hung stud and ten of his mates also equally well endowned.

After whetting your appetite in the RLD its time for the main event. Take the U Bahn to Neue Borse/Industriehof in the North West of FFM to find FKK Palace. Entritt is a hefty €75 and more for the girls at €50 for half a hour for a suck and fuck. There is generally an excellent line up on a Sammstag nacht at the Palace. Your eyes will pop out of their sockets looking at all the naked ladies (although of late Palace girls are wearing more and more clothes as standard).

Or you can make your way to FKK Oase - some public transportation directions can be found in the attached post:

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Heading to Oase is my personal recommendation. You pay a bit more in transport especially with the taxis but it is a better experience I think. Entritt is a little less at €65. You will be amazed at the bevy of beauties there that you can be sucked by and fuck for €50 for half a hour. Read some of my reports on the Oase thread for more details.

Whatever you do Sex Hunk please remember the details like names & nationalities of the girls and report back here your experiences. We would very much like to know how it all went.

Take care,

Londonbasketcase

Salute West By Sun,

[QUOTE=West By Sun] As far as I know, there is the only one girl who is claiming to be a Libanese. She was surprised when I began to talk to her in french because she can not hyde her inability of french langage while speaking in french with me. But as I always have big probleme of english, so I do not care of other people's langage skill. The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that it was under 20 minutes. This is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price. The reception lady was not my dear Meggi but another unknown blonde lady. She believed a falsified Libanese's lie.

Radler, I don't want to mention her name. However I am sure you know her. She has an arabian name and huge tits.

LBC, the girl I refered as "another girl" is Angelina.

Mick Licker, the only good thing for me in last Saturday night was Lina. She is coming back, got so fat and became so boomy. It seems she is less aggressive than two or three years ago. Except that, the lineup was dead for me. [/QUOTE]

This does sound like Lisa (Lebanon) that came to work for a night at Oase try out the scene there. It did seem like she was doing good service and she certainly had good looks, nice all over tan and a huge set of natural knockers that begged to be fondled and nipples sucked to contentment.

Oh, good the other girl was Angelina (Czech) - the dirty minx. She is a naughty girl and needs a good rimming.

I still have not experienced the talents of Lina (Czech) that some have advocated on this esteemed forum. I agree that she is sporting a bit more weight than I would like on a sex provider that I actually have to hand over hard earned euros to for services rendered.

So sad that the Palace line up was dead - maybe it was as you say in a valley in between the two messes either end of the period that you were in FFM. This differs to the reports from Mick Licker & Ortos amongst others during approximately the same period.

I have no plans at present to attend the Palace but I do have opportunity to do so should a gap in my trip schedule allow.

Cheers,

Londonbasketcase

[QUOTE=Sex Hunk]Hi Guys,

I will be visiting Frankfurt in the coming saturday and will be there just for 1 night.Please advice me where should i go? Should i explore the RLD near the train station or i should go to any FKK Clubs.If clubs are better which is the best place to go as i dont have time.Also please let me know the prices in all the places.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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