Dubai Reports

To save posting it again here, I have included an FR on my recent night in Dubai in my report in the Abu Dhabi thread below.

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Friends,

What I am sharing may not be new to senior members at all but would still like to share my views. This was on my last visit to rattlesnake. Usually having heard of largely negative reviews of CIS girls I stay clear of them and go for the PRC or Africans. I spotted a group of CIS around the bar and sauntered across. All were smoking and had a glassy stare and hard bleak expressions on their faces. They were pretty no doubt, but they reeked of arrogance and bad attitude. I think they have a feeling that just because they are lookers, men will fall at their feet. It also could be that they are genuinely disillusioned and are heavily into debt, but the bottomline is that they are not warm and do not appear to be looking for business. Any way I asked one of them and she quoted 1500 dh for ST. I declined and she gave me a look which said 'fuck off'. After chatting up to some PRCs I found myself alone after an hour. None of the CIS had found any customer and the one whom I had approached was still there. Our eyes met and I looked away. She came up to me and asked me what I was willing to pay. I told her 800 and that she would be there till morning. She agreed and off we went to my hotel.

Once in the room. I regretted having her there. She was almost mechanical in everything she did. No conversation, and no attempt to make it enjoyable. Though she had a great bod, it wasnt a great encounter. Even the way she gave BJ was alomost like her mind was into something else.

I ended up in showing her the door. Anyway this was just to see if what is said bout the CIS is true and now that I have experienced it I will stick to PRCs/Africans who show more warmth and many a times a true GFE.

So, i eventually poppep up in Rattle. The place was crowded, wiht both girls and (potential) punters.
appreciatively Girls were a little bit desperate (pinching my nipples and touching my ass were standard practice). However I was on a mood that prevented me from finding any girl attractive enough.
-Africans, I would say that some of the most attractive girls were african. To compensate they also had a few ones that were, to say it shortly, scary. Unfortunately they are not usually my cup of tea but if you like african girls (miss madagascar was there) there was plenty of choice. Not so many ethiopians.

-Chinese, as plentiful as the africans. However not very attractive in general. I was surprised by a number of them wearing glasses (for their eys, before some smart kid point that glasses are plentiful in a bar) and having a kind of office-girl look.

-EE/CIS, a few ones, some of them nice looking. But there was something that I did not like so much in their attitude. Also some could be European civilians... quite a mixed crowd. Maybe some of the working girls could be starting to drink their beers without a straw? World is getting a really complex place nowadays.

So I took a taxi and started smsing a turkish girl I met at regal before my last trip. She agreed to come next night... I was nto very sure but decided to give her a try.

She arrived as agreed (700 dhms) at 8PM and we talke dfor a little bit she was very keen on going to bed and she was enthusiastic. We spent one hour and took a break. Watched some tv and she started asking me if I would like another round, he proceeded and then she started asking me if she could go.

I told her that it was ok with me (she was a little bit boring and on full light her body was not what looked like at Regal).

So, disappointed as expected. her name is Shakira (Aisha real one) and can be found at Regal. She is up to back door activity but only CBJ. For the right person she can be quite ok, for me is a no repeat.

I will pop up in Rattle if there is anybody willing to meet me there (for chat and drinks more than anything else). So PM me before 2200 if interested.

Rgds

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I have a lady visiting me next week end for some action. She works in dry Oman. Thought she is a horny girl coming from Indonesia. She is looking to have some fun with 3 or 4 guys. Plus me (str8). She is up to anything & everything. Except pain & humiliation. Probably 13. 10 evening will be the date. If you are around & want to join PM me. She only wants westerners. Well built and with stamina for few rounds. Bye for now. This is a genuine ad.

[QUOTE=Tropical Pleasure]Hi Fellow Mongers,

I have a lady visiting me next week end for some action. She works in dry Oman. Thought she is a horny girl coming from Indonesia. She is looking to have some fun with 3 or 4 guys. Plus me (str8). She is up to anything & everything. Except pain & humiliation. Probably 13. 10 evening will be the date. If you are around & want to join PM me. She only wants westerners. Well built and with stamina for few rounds. Bye for now. This is a genuine ad.[/QUOTE]
Mongers

TP's ad is genuine if you are doubting the wisdom of replying....guess how I know :)

Piper, Cons, GS have PMed you

[QUOTE=Moghul]Friends,

What I am sharing may not be new to senior members at all but would still like to share my views. Usually having heard of largely negative reviews of CIS girls I stay clear of them and go for the PRC or Africans. Anyway this was just to see if what is said bout the CIS is true and now that I have experienced it I will stick to PRCs/Africans who show more warmth and many a times a true GFE.[/QUOTE]

True, this is your experience and as you say, not new to some of us senior members. I and many others have experienced similar in the past.

However, to quote my mate MK, who I regard as somewhat of a CIS Specialist, if you do find a good one, and he most certainly has, then she will be one of your best experiences of all.

The CIS girls are not all negative, although their attitude and situation may quite often convey this. I am currently in Kazakhstan and although the girls I am spending time with are not in the same situation as those in Dubai, some of them are living here in difficult circumstances. I am currently exploring a 26 yr old Russian babe and she is proving to be one of the best so far.

So do not give up on the CIS girls, you may eventually find one that is to your taste. Remember YMMV every time.

One positive outcome from your recent experience, at least she didnt empty your fridge or mini-bar prior to departure and I presume you didnt find your mobile phone and camera in the sink either!!!!

Cheers FF

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]One positive outcome from your recent experience, at least she didnt empty your fridge or mini-bar prior to departure and I presume you didnt find your mobile phone and camera in the sink either!!!!

Cheers FF[/QUOTE]
Or have security escort the lady out of the hotel before she wrecks the room further (the monger will know who I am talking about) or have to eat of the floor or plastic crockery and use plastic glassware....:);)

So keep trying or go Filipina.....:)

[QUOTE=Moghul]I spotted a group of CIS around the bar... Any way I asked one of them and she quoted 1500 dh for ST. I declined and she gave me a look which said 'fuck off'. ... None of the CIS had found any customer and the one whom I had approached was still there. Our eyes met and I looked away. She came up to me and asked me what I was willing to pay. I told her 800 and that she would be there till morning. She agreed and off we went to my hotel.

Once in the room. I regretted having her there. She was almost mechanical in everything she did. No conversation, and no attempt to make it enjoyable. [/QUOTE]I don't think it should come as any surprise that a girl who gives you a "fuck off" price early (and 1500 ST [b]IS[/b] a 'fo' price), then, at the close of [i]office[/i] hours, "suddenly" sees that you're a great guy afterall, provides [u]poor[/u] service back home. The "better than nothing" choice cuts BOTH ways. Not exactly like she's going to be looking for repeat business, is it? :)

Which is different than a girl who wants 'top dirham' early as the evening is still full of potential, who later drops her price (or has made something towards her nightly target via an earlier ST).

The [u]key[/u] is [u]attitude[/u] [b]with you[/b] in [u]any[/u] conversation. As they say in the stock market, the best indicator of future performance is past history. If a girl gives me a 'fo' attitude, then I will do us BOTH a favor and never pull her, bargain price or not.

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]So do not give up on the CIS girls, you may eventually find one that is to your taste. Remember YMMV every time.[/quote]Well said. Like I said above, it all comes down to HER attitude WITH YOU. Why I prefer the bars, rather than contacts. I generally prefer PRC's, but have had some fun times with some CIS. I wouldn't write them ALL off... You just can't let looks blind you to attitude.

Nice FR. See, even if it wasn't the best experience, still makes a fun story LATER...

[QUOTE=Love Spot]Bravo, couldn't find to my liking, did not come to the negotiate stage, found them on the older side. Maybe it was the wrong day.
[/QUOTE]Moved this off of the Hotel thread here.

Like BC posted, I don't know what your target age group is. Nice thing about being older[list][*]EVERYONE looks younger[*]Even an approaching 30 girl meets 50/50's criteria FOR ME[*]Fading eyesight means a lot look good without your glasses[/list]

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Or have security escort the lady out of the hotel before she wrecks the room further (the monger will know who I am talking about) ;)

So keep trying or go Filipina.....:)[/QUOTE]

Very funny WR... It only happened twice :)

See you in a few weeks.

EU

[QUOTE=11Bravo] Nice thing about being older[list][*]EVERYONE looks younger[*]Even an approaching 30 girl meets 50/50's criteria FOR ME[*]Fading eyesight means a lot look good without your glasses[/list][/QUOTE]
I appreciate that some younger guys could be put off by someone older, but my experiences have made me shy away from really young girls.

Every single sub 23 girl I have met has left me feeling poorly, either through inexperience, undeveloped personality, or a bit of pity on my part. Of course, there are and will be exceptions.

I have had wonderful experiences with ladies in the 27-35 age group (and older, for all you Feroza fans, this is a hint!) For me, 27 seems a perfect number.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]
I have had wonderful experiences with ladies in the 27-35 age group (and older, for all you Feroza fans, this is a hint!) For me, 27 seems a perfect number.[/QUOTE]

I guess you can not have everything... Very young girls (i mean 19) can be very sweet but they do not really know what they want. Maybe as we grow older we lose the patience required to handle them. As we say in Spanish "De la gallina vieja se hace el mejor caldo".

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Mongers

TP's ad is genuine if you are doubting the wisdom of replying....guess how I know :)

Piper, Cons, GS have PMed you[/QUOTE]

Roger that :)

[QUOTE=Moghul]Friends,
I ended up in showing her the door. Anyway this was just to see if what is said bout the CIS is true and now that I have experienced it I will stick to PRCs/Africans who show more warmth and many a times a true GFE.[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. The CIS are Rattle are not very attractive die totheir attitude, they seem to have a banner around their necks that says "Bad attitude"... However CIS girls can provide amazing experiences (Miss Y return from Kyrgizstan really rocked me)

Yesterday I went with a business mate (really nice chap) and we stopped in Panorama, really crowded with a real rainbow to choose. Then we moved to York, as usual, and the Regal where for once we were not invisible.

There we spotted a couple of really charming girls. My friend took one and confirmed that she is charming friendly.. and wild in bed. I will take the another one tomorrow. They were both friendly and nice, and they warmed uop when talking about home.

There was a real stunner but at closing time we did not even bother talking to her. I wonder why :)

CIS girls can be either very good or very bad or mediocre... what a surprise :) But in general I think that PRC are less risky. They usually perform tosatisfaction but I do not think the good ones are as good as the best russians.

In the end picking a girl is like picking a stock, there is a trade between risk and reward. You want a low risk, assured return go PRC (as my respected mentor 50.50 showed me), you want to gamble, go CIS. You lose meany times, when you win, you win big time.

I think the main difference is with CIS girls once you establish a relation you get the whole enchilada and this is both good and bad. Good because you get a whole human being with all the complexities. Bad because you get a whole human being with all the complexities. I have found much harder to relate with PRC girls as they come more "flat", I think it has to do with i) worse level of english and ii) a cultural approach where they somehow hide all their issues or find harder to communicate them. That at least is my experience; I am sure people with a greater Asian experience will have been able to close this gap.

And in the end sex is like money, both are only a problem when you do not have enough.

Women hit their 10,000 day mark when they're 27.

Ripens them.

Although I've met some mighty fine 19 year olds, and one mind blowing 37 year old.


[QUOTE=Sporadic]I appreciate that some younger guys could be put off by someone older, but my experiences have made me shy away from really young girls.

Every single sub 23 girl I have met has left me feeling poorly, either through inexperience, undeveloped personality, or a bit of pity on my part. Of course, there are and will be exceptions.

I have had wonderful experiences with ladies in the 27-35 age group (and older, for all you Feroza fans, this is a hint!) For me, 27 seems a perfect number.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cons68]



I think the main difference is with CIS girls once you establish a relation you get the whole enchilada and this is both good and bad. Good because you get a whole human being with all the complexities. Bad because you get a whole human being with all the complexities.
And in the end sex is like money, both are only a problem when you do not have enough.[/QUOTE]

Well said that man.

CIS are the best IMHO but they are hard work and often a challenge. I have never had GFE with a PRC but almost always have with CIS. It all comes down to what you are prepared to add to the relationship (because that is what it is).

I will generalise however, the CIS are pretty racist, they do not like sub continentals and coloured and have no qualms in making this very apparent, years of soviet training... so some of you guys may have fallen foul of this. It may be controversial but it is a fact.

If you just want a no hassle mechanical fuck then a PRC will do. If you want a real woman go for a CIS. Be prepared for the posseviness but you will get return visits that just get better and better. They are all oral experts and have no hangups over giving BJs but all expect the same oral attention in return! They love varied action and are not afraid of group sex. As I lie here in a hotel bed in Paris with my blonde babe, looking forward to a week of swinging parties and general debauchery in Spain, I thank the lord for allowing the soviet sysem to mess up Russia so well leaving us with such fun seeking girls!


MK

I think the PRC’s are, in general, more professional in their approach, and as Cons68 says, low risk. Unlike a lot of the CIS you do not have to play a lot of games just for a ST session. There is a shell with PRC's too, however but once you have broken through you get as good a GFE you could find anywhere, and you will find they are certainly not one dimensional or “flat”, it’s just that until they know you well they keep the emotions and business well separated. And they are certinaly not doormats either!

I have had some great times with PRC’s over the past few years, ranging from dinner in a crowded flat with and my regular, half a other dozen girls and a couple of their preferred customers, to nights out with an elegantly dressed girl in a 5 star hotel and even a trip outside of the UAE. This is also one of the reasons why I prefer older girls; you have a lot more in common if you are also interested in spending tie with them outside of the bedroom. Yes I am a pervert, I like to converse with them! Of course it helps if you understand something of their culture and have some common interests.

I would agree with MK’s statement “It all comes down to what you are prepared to add to the relationship (because that is what it is).” Or as someone once posted, if you want the GF experience you have to give the BF experience.

But rest assured that there are PRC’s that can go “off the rails” too! And I don’t think you would want to seriously [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] one off!

[QUOTE=My Kapitan]It all comes down to what you are prepared to add to the relationship (because that is what it is). ... but you will get return visits that just get better and better.[/quote][QUOTE=Cons68]I am sure people with a greater Asian experience will have been able to close this gap[/QUOTE]Agree with both statements. All comes down to the individuals involved. I certainly don't hit it off with EVERY PRC I pull, but there are reasons why some make the starting pitching lineup AND stay there. And it does get better and better when you don't have to "start from zero" every time.

As Smoker said Thursday night, "Sometimes, it's just business; you want it to finish quickly. Other times, you want to be a woman and enjoy..." Trick is to find the ones where they can be the latter with you (best indication: attitude in the bar with you).

[QUOTE=My Kapitan]I will generalise however, the CIS are pretty racist, they do not like sub continentals and coloured and have no qualms in making this very apparent, years of soviet training... so some of you guys may have fallen foul of this. It may be controversial but it is a fact.[/quote]As you say, this is something that is a fact of life here, from some being able to enter a club without paying, to the preferences of wg's. You can scream and say it's unfair, but that won't change it. Be it club or wg, if I'm not greeted with a warm attitude, I move on. Nice thing about dxb - plenty of choices.

[QUOTE=Cons68]I think the main difference is with CIS girls once you establish a relation you get the whole enchilada and this is both good and bad. Good because you get a whole human being with all the complexities. Bad because you get a whole human being with all the complexities. I have found much harder to relate with PRC girls as they come more "flat", I think it has to do with i) worse level of english and ii) a cultural approach where they somehow hide all their issues or find harder to communicate them.[/quote]I'd say PRC's are more accepting of their situation, not dwelling on the negative (no need to drown themselves in alcohol). [i]This[/i] business is no one's first career choice, but once having made it, MOST (not all) accept it. The language barrier can be a problem, you just have to have a bit of patience, and with more and more girls carrying the more advanced (whole sentence) translators, easier than it was years ago. But they are VERY appreciate of those who show some understanding. And given 5000 years of history and culture, a lot to talk about :)