Nairobi

Having discovered train was booked to Mok mbasa I was down so I chose a tall beautiful body Kenyan to come over at 6:30 pm. Its 12 in the afternoon now and she's still here having wash dishes and having pancakes that I made for her. Last night I cooked a delicious Cajun chicken. My tab Victoria secret panties and $5 jean shorts, uber coming and going. Less than $15.

There are many groups on Telegram where girls advertise themselves for 1 k to 4 k for a few hours up to a night. Even girls saying they are for free because they want a good fuck (I personally do not believe anything is for free in life). These groups are for locals as most is in Swahili. And there are no photos (only rarely) of the girls. And you do have to pay the admin like 500 shillings to get contact nrs. Sometimes the admin makes a mistake and leaves the girls contact details in there.

So I have written to 2 a month ago. Both replied. One was way outside of Nairobi but would do a few hours for 2 k even knowing I am a white guy. She looked ok-ish and was 28. Bareback was not on the menu until she met me and decided if I was clean.

The other girl was a 19 year old student in Nairobi whom send me a whole bunch of photos and videos and wants 5 k for all night. I brought up bareback with her and she promptly send me her latest negative HIV test (although could have been 10 years old as there was no name nor date on it). She proposed we both take a test and would have fun all night. She has been sending photos of her classmates that she wants to fuck. She said most of them are not doing this but she knows they need money badly and they will go for the money. She described to me that with the economy in the dolldrums many girls were selling themselves for a few shilling ATM as they were desperate to pay rent, food etc.

So with some searching and I guess going for non pro girls it should be possible to obtain up to 5 k whole night deals. And if you want to take the risk and fancy bareback I guess a percentage would partake.

CM.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2543530]The next piece of drama is when one decides to go to the Police, if you don't pay the girls and think you are getting freebies you are inviting problems, giving chocolates or a dress does mot matter as it is cash they need and want, its just a matter of time before real drama arrives. Agree a price, Pay them and you never get problems.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DazeUp;2543854]In 3 days he fuked 10 plus times with 3 stunners bareback, one with a European degree. Each girl cost him about 10 usd in covid times. The only thing this guy is fucking is his hand. His gone through 3 fingers it would be interesting to read what experiences he has with the other 7 fingers.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Blakman;2544469]Well whiskey, wine, weed changed that. [/QUOTE]Wow, your smoking weed with these women you don't even know? You got a big pair my man. Extortion game is alive and well in the mind of desperate people. Those 10 dollar fucks could turn into hundreds very easily. You asked a lot of questions, so payback is usually in the form of photos, and no need to attack the "game" of those that helped you. We all are quite aware of pussy being easy in Kenya, so no need to act like your Hefner, and we all don't know shyte.

That it could be just for fun with compensation for few gifts or if the chemistry was right maybe more. They were aware I am on vacation and control my own time. That I am not rich? Not here with my employer, and using my own savings to get by. Honesty and a good dick goes along way LOL. Still can't compare to money LOL. But these girls want both money and a good fuck. So they take money from one guy and good fuck from the other. I did have a girl tell me after I fucked her basically for free and refused to pay cash the second go around the dick wasnt all that LOL. She block me. My weed source LOL.

[QUOTE=DazeUp;2545018]One more thing, sorry for the long posts. It could be that these girls are under the impression that you are going to be a boyfriend so they are giving it up with the hopes of getting paid in the long run, not that they have accepted their payment. If this is a part of the game, then I can believe this success rate for this price, but it involves the kind of deception that we should not apply, especially to girls trying to make a living in hard circumstances, its like stealing in my opinion. My comments are upon the understanding that this is a transaction for sex for one night and maybe possibly repeat business if both parties agree but not guaranteed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2545282]That it could be just for fun with compensation for few gifts or if the chemistry was right maybe more. They were aware I am on vacation and control my own time. That I am not rich? Not here with my employer, and using my own savings to get by. Honesty and a good dick goes along way LOL. Still can't compare to money LOL. But these girls want both money and a good fuck. So they take money from one guy and good fuck from the other. I did have a girl tell me after I fucked her basically for free and refused to pay cash the second go around the dick wasnt all that LOL. She block me. My weed source LOL.[/QUOTE]Chemistry? Dude get off that cloud. There's nothing special about you. Don't imagine you have a golden dick. If they really need it they will go to their real boyfriend or some young good looking Kenyan. You are not God's gift to African women. The only game you have is your wallet and because of your ego and ignorance your pretty lousy at it. Did you think the cheapest mirror and combs are going to pay her or her childrens next meal?

I always pay because I know what they really want. A better life. Be a man. Pay.

Cause that maybe your only option to get sex. These girls have 5 or more caretakers. You are not the only giving them money. I am not mad at you for paying 5 k to 10 k. With your payment they don't need the cash so much from me. I am spitting the facts. I have been here a month and have not paid for sex. Well not in the fashion you guys normally pay. I haven't even taken a girl out to dinner. Why you are responding with envy. Take a deep look at yourself. Step your game up, get in shape, dress better, improve your looks. Anything that will help not paying for sex. Of course I am kidding. But I don't take this forum as serious as you guys take it. Its not my lifely hood. I am just reporting my experience.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2545349]Chemistry? Dude get off that cloud. There's nothing special about you. Don't imagine you have a golden dick. If they really need it they will go to their real boyfriend or some young good looking Kenyan. You are not God's gift to African women. The only game you have is your wallet and because of your ego and ignorance your pretty lousy at it. Did you think the cheapest mirror and combs are going to pay her or her childrens next meal?

I always pay because I know what they really want. A better life. Be a man. Pay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2545220]Having discovered train was booked to Mok mbasa I was down so I chose a tall beautiful body Kenyan to come over at 6:30 pm. Its 12 in the afternoon now and she's still here having wash dishes and having pancakes that I made for her. Last night I cooked a delicious Cajun chicken. My tab Victoria secret panties and $5 jean shorts, uber coming and going. Less than $15.[/QUOTE]That's why discussions like this about price are pointless. We discuss prices but we don't see the goods. It's a bit like disputing how much we pay when shopping on Amazon.

This being said, if I go to the hassle of traveling to some shithole in Africa, the girls I get into my room are better be 8's at least (never mind what I pay for them).

On a different note, years ago I gave valuable tips to a French monger about the Cameroons. Later the fellow proudly reported how he had been passing himself off as a porn producer. Girls travelled a hundred miles for "casting" sessions, after which he sent them on their way with hardly enough money to cover travel expenses. I regretted ever giving that monger any info.

Is the E-Visa valid for 3 months from when you get it, or when you enter the country? I assume the former. So get it as late as possible.

Will be extending my visa after 3 months, sounds easy online.

Do you need to specify all your accommodation? Or maybe just the first few places you'll stay?

I don't owe non of y'all shit really, but a thank you for replying to my questions. I am sure I would do the same. If you fire shots expect shots to be fired back. Weed is global. If you don't know that by now. You don't need to visit Colombia where most girls want weed. Certainly not a big deal. I take two puffs before sex and that's it. I don't get drunk just a buzz so I am very aware. Nothing stolen yet so I can conclude I am dealing with good girls. I take a blazing blow job, a very nice body over spending crazy money for an 8. To be honest I haven't seen many dymes. Anyways as long as I make it home, test negative I am good. Once my gifts are depleted then maybe I think about paying for 8 pussy. Covid Curfew changes as fucked up Kenya travels unless you are going to Mombasa. We all have different styles. I love mines. Saves me money for next trip to Brazil. Chao. By the way the girl that lied to the security guard to get to my apartment, guys in the USA considered her a dyme.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2545254]Wow, your smoking weed with these women you don't even know? You got a big pair my man. Extortion game is alive and well in the mind of desperate people. Those 10 dollar fucks could turn into hundreds very easily. You asked a lot of questions, so payback is usually in the form of photos, and no need to attack the "game" of those that helped you. We all are quite aware of pussy being easy in Kenya, so no need to act like your Hefner, and we all don't know shyte.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2545282]That it could be just for fun with compensation for few gifts or if the chemistry was right maybe more. They were aware I am on vacation and control my own time. That I am not rich? Not here with my employer, and using my own savings to get by.[/QUOTE]You have confirmed what's going on and things make sense now. By the way, the girl in that photo is banging, hope both you and her had a good time, but too bad she had the misfortune of falling into the hands of a player (read predator in this context), which is what you are; a player, you're not a monger. Why would someone travel across the globe to a 3rd world country where life isn't so easy to prove to himself how good his game is? You do that type of thing as a young kid trying to score freebies because you can't afford to pay the real price. You do that in a country where the girls can just shrug it off as a bad experience and a good lesson learned for how to deal with guys like this in the future.

Africa is a different beast! Girls can't just easily get a job at the local McDonalds or Walmart, or if worst comes to worst get government assistance at the end of the month. There is no government to take care of you in Africa, there is no stimulus check to help you get by, if those girls can't get paid enough to make ends meet, they rent a room of corrugated iron in the slums and the river is their bathroom.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2545282]Honesty and a good dick goes along way LOL. Still can't compare to money LOL. But these girls want both money and a good fuck. So they take money from one guy and good fuck from the other.[/QUOTE]If you, for one second, coming from the west to Africa, you think that these girls are going to someone else to get the money, but coming to you for a good fuck, then your head is so far up your ass it will be hard to remove it without causing damage to your spine. You are in Africa, there is plenty of the type of 'good dick' to go around to satisfy the abundance of fat ass available in Nairobi, but they are also not willing to pay more than $10 for it which is why they don't get it, which is where 'your game' comes in. That is SURELY NOT the game plan in these girl's minds. Tell these girls its 'just for fun and with compensation of a $10 gift' and see if they will catch an Uber to your apartment and how far you will get with 'good dick'. You are rich compared to them, otherwise you would not be vacationing in another country and contacting girls, only rich Africans can do that, especially during covid.

What you're doing is like a girl indicating to you that she will give you the time of your life PSE but needs the money upfront to pay the cab first, then takes the money and hops in the cab and disappears. She played you and you got played, just like you're playing them now and they are getting played. Nobody says 'they got game' to describe that, they are plenty of that type around but they are described with different adjectives. However, we are mongers who can easily brush it off and learn from our mistakes.

It's only $20 to 30, what do you get out of playing them and saving it, a happy meal for each girl you played when you get back? I also know a 'player' who makes the girls think he's looking for a wife, so he has a line all the way down to the airport of girls offering freebies in the hopes of maybe getting married and getting out of the country, how is that for strong 'game'.

This player stuff does not belong in Africa or Asia, or in a monger forum in my opinion, it belongs in some college forum where students believe its an achievement to get freebies or happy meal lays from the local girls because they are broke. You don't take this forum seriously, and I don't think any of us do, but take the situation of the people where you are mongering. Sorry playing. A little more seriously. Ill take it you are a young buck but if you're old enough to travel to Africa, I hope your experience will cause you to go back to the drawing board and rethink your strategy.

If you're still in Nairobi, there is nothing like a day trip to the slums and eating at a local restaurant there for a good wake up and smell the coffee call. You'll have plenty of time as you sit there to collect the numbers of girls who you can fuk for a $1 drink if you get them to believe 'anything is possible'. Look up Kangemi on your google maps, its one of the biggest slums in the world, right there in Nairobi, don't leave Kenya without seeing it to expand your horizons.

I honestly believe that you are already paying these girls the $20-30 they earned and, as a token of your appreciation, adding the $5-10 gifts, and you are just taking us for a ride. If not, I can only hope that this is what you will do going forward, you're not saving that much, its $20 not $200. That $20 will go a long way for them, a lot longer than the happy meal you'll get for it when your trip is over.

Sorry for the long rant again, I hate sound like this in a forum like this, sorry you all had to endure that including Blakman.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2545363]Cause that maybe your only option to get sex. These girls have 5 or more caretakers. You are not the only giving them money. I am not mad at you for paying 5 k to 10 k. With your payment they don't need the cash so much from me. I am spitting the facts. I have been here a month and have not paid for sex. Well not in the fashion you guys normally pay. I haven't even taken a girl out to dinner. Why you are responding with envy. Take a deep look at yourself. Step your game up, get in shape, dress better, improve your looks. Anything that will help not paying for sex. Of course I am kidding. But I don't take this forum as serious as you guys take it. Its not my lifely hood. I am just reporting my experience.[/QUOTE]Never been to Nairobi yet but I'm close with guys who went their and based on their stories I believe your experiences are realistic. If you have a good game you can actually score freebies and one night stands easily in Kenya. I live in Dubai where there is a sizable Kenyan and Ugandan population. Regular girls are very promiscuous and sexually liberated, they come on first dates prepared and ready to the possibility that they are going to be dicked down by the end of the night. They have that sweet mentality that they have to reward you as a man for treating them well by letting you have sex with them. Its a part of an inferiority complex being a woman like they have something to prove, very submissive. They are so easy to read and they don't give mixed signals and let you wonder whether or not you are going to smash by the end of the date. Causal hookups are so common.

Don't mind jealous people. Some men can only get laid P4P. Don't diss someone's game just because yours is weak.

[QUOTE=Harry2;2545546]Is the E-Visa valid for 3 months from when you get it, or when you enter the country? I assume the former. So get it as late as possible.

Will be extending my visa after 3 months, sounds easy online.

Do you need to specify all your accommodation? Or maybe just the first few places you'll stay?[/QUOTE]When you generate the E-Visa you have three months time from then to get in the Country. Then you can stay 30 days.

Accommodation is not so important. Write something there, but there will not check.

When I was there in February I upload an Screenshot form my Whatsapp Conversation from the Chat with the Hotel Owner whit whom I made the deal for the Room. It was accepted. I don't believe that anyone is looking through this.

Thanks DzikaBomba, looks like I'll wait until the Nairobi lockdown is over until I come over though!

With regards to this discussion, the crux of the issue is *what the girls believe they are getting from the encounter. If the girls are honestly looking for a hook up and are expecting nothing else, then Blakman's stories are a testament to his game. However, if the girls are staying to cook breakfast etc etc in the hopes of dating and then more, then I agree with DazeUp, this is exploitative. So we need to know whether Blakman makes it clear beforehand that there is a 0% chance of a long-term relationship.

I feel leading on a girl who is far less powerful (in a far worse financial position) than me is possibly the worst thing I could do in another country. So I am happy to give up all pretense of 'game' and make it clear to the girl I am in it for P4P.

His money is his business. All I'm saying is you can easily meet the wrong chic in Nairobi that's connected, and if you treat her like shit you could get hurt. There are plenty of very no nonsense Kikuyu women that are not to be trusted smoking weed with, or giving cheap panties for pussy. If you you walk around not respecting people you can get fucked up. Where else in the world will you find a police force robbing the mall while people are getting murdered on the next level? Do not do anything to get their attention. Dude will not pull this shit in Nigeria. Oh, I think I already said once that Kenyan women are not hot for Hollywood faces, but their ghetto booty, and hot bodies. Shit they walk everywhere, they are for the most part in shape.

You are the type of guy that will send a girl an iphone and she opens the box with her boyfriend and say this what I got for you baby. These girls have more game than you can image.

[QUOTE=DazeUp;2545577]You have confirmed what's going on and things make sense now. By the way, the girl in that photo is banging, hope both you and her had a good time, but too bad she had the misfortune of falling into the hands of a player (read predator in this context), which is what you are; a player, you're not a monger. Why would someone travel across the globe to a 3rd world country where life isn't so easy to prove to himself how good his game is? You do that type of thing as a young kid trying to score freebies because you can't afford to pay the real price. You do that in a country where the girls can just shrug it off as a bad experience and a good lesson learned for how to deal with guys like this in the future.

Africa is a different beast! Girls can't just easily get a job at the local McDonalds or Walmart, or if worst comes to worst get government assistance at the end of the month. There is no government to take care of you in Africa, there is no stimulus check to help you get by, if those girls can't get paid enough to make ends meet, they rent a room of corrugated iron in the slums and the river is their bathroom.

If you, for one second, coming from the west to Africa, you think that these girls are going to someone else to get the money, but coming to you for a good fuck, then your head is so far up your ass it will be hard to remove it without causing damage to your spine. You are in Africa, there is plenty of the type of 'good dick' to go around to satisfy the abundance of fat ass available in Nairobi, but they are also not willing to pay more than $10 for it which is why they don't get it, which is where 'your game' comes in. That is SURELY NOT the game plan in these girl's minds. Tell these girls its 'just for fun and with compensation of a $10 gift' and see if they will catch an Uber to your apartment and how far you will get with 'good dick'. You are rich compared to them, otherwise you would not be vacationing in another country and contacting girls, only rich Africans can do that, especially during covid..[/QUOTE]