Kyiv

I have a tourist map of Kiev on my desk, and one of the sponsors is The Playmate Lounge 'elite strip club' located at 82 Artema Street. Says 'Every Friday, special entertainment program'.

Anyone know this place?

[QUOTE=Tonit66]....Then I went to Yulia, a tall blondie very hot and a little bit drunk. She also asked for 300 EUR, but this time the result of her exchange rate was 1000 Hrivna. I really wonder where these girls exchange the money we give them!

I tipped her other 100 Hrivna .....[/QUOTE]And figured out ya got her for $200 USD!

Don't think one need's a degree from an accredited higher learning institution
to 'fuck' out of RP!

LS Guy

brandon, you already know where the best strip club in kiev is. believe it or not i got shut out by olga the last time i was there. she went with some local rollers. dr s spotted them all at shooters later that night. two strippers-two guys. olga made the right choice, no way in hell was i paying the bar fee to take her out to a club. one can only assume those guys were married or maybe it was her boyfriend. :)

dr, one of the annoying things i find about ukraine is it's seemingly ok to have garlic breath - so i don't think that was it. i think the girls were just very tired. the two you were talking to seemed like semi pro's. i think you would have pulled the georgian girl if you were walking out by yourself. but three guys and one girl always makes them nervous. i was stuck in the apartment all night with ksenia, who proved she was another red diploma graduate from you know where..

t66 - your process for getting a tourist visa for a girl seems very straight forward and not difficult to me. i've heard of guys speeding it along by making a few follow up calls. nice to hear from a guy who actually did it. instead of hearing from someone who is theorizing what it might be like. my information is all second hand from the girls who did the traveling - who knows they could all be lying to me. hey, i look forward to catching up with you when you come back to kiev, i promise i am a cheap date. :) assuming i am still alive. as far as conversion rates go, i doubt the girls convert their money at all. 2-3000uah is enough to cover the cost of a dress or a pair of boots (maybe) for the hardcore pro's. in another year or so everyone will be looking to get paid in 'hard currency' again when the economy crashes but now it's fine. and when i go with you to rp we won't be paying 300e. ;)

Many people in Ukraine do not know the difference in rate between euro and dollar. Actually in the beginning they did not trust euro at all, now when dollar is constantly devalued towards grivna they start to suspect dollar. For the average ukrainian 50 euro and 50 dollars have the same value. He uses the 5 to 1 convertion rate. So it is always wrong to pay in euro. They do not regard it as hard currency with more value than dollar. It is better to convert euro to dollars or grivnias before paying.

[quote=cruiser d]t66 - your process for getting a tourist visa for a girl seems very straight forward and not difficult to me. i've heard of guys speeding it along by making a few follow up calls. nice to hear from a guy who actually did it. instead of hearing from someone who is theorizing what it might be like. my information is all second hand from the girls who did the traveling - who knows they could all be lying to me. hey, i look forward to catching up with you when you come back to kiev, i promise i am a cheap date. :) assuming i am still alive. as far as conversion rates go, i doubt the girls convert their money at all. 2-3000uah is enough to cover the cost of a dress or a pair of boots (maybe) for the hardcore pro's. in another year or so everyone will be looking to get paid in 'hard currency' again when the economy crashes but now it's fine. and when i go with you to rp we won't be paying 300e. ;)[/quote]the easy way to know about the process for getting a visa is just to ask for the application form and the required docs and annexes... all the embassies should have contact numbers to gather info and most likely websites. no need of theories :-)

i will be in kiev again this week, so keep yourself alive for a while. i guess i can afford the date :-) maybe the luck to find a girl believing that $200=€300 will continue (something tells me this was a lonely hit)

Then Ukraine new escort tank after the Czech Republic or Russia? Why not. While waiting, here a report in accordance with my EV of Larisa and Annia. The plane bound for Kiev quietly follows its road in the blue sky of October. After the ritual tray meal and the cup of tea "and a milk cloud please" which goes with the punter replonge in its notes (primarily of the contacts of agencies of escorts, of the numbers the independent ones and girls met on lovemail. Ru).

If the Ukraine were, in Xème and XIèmé century the greatest state of Europe, the history of the country is especially marked, since XVIIème, by a terrible play of "I love you ego either" with the big Russian brother. During this period the Ukraine will have indeed been successively and seldom for best (massive deportations, organized famines), independent, then Russian, then independent, then Russian and finally the again independent one since collapse of the USSR in 1991.

Today, the country is posted like a parliamentary democracy, and this same if Reporters association without border showed former president Koutchma of censure and even of assassination of journalists as to good old days of the Bolchevism if one adds to celà the poisoning of the current president by his rival at the time of the presidential elections.

Environment. Lastly, not question of letting itself impress dant and his/her colleagues having passed by there since. The Ukraine they are also cities with phantasms, Kiev the city with the 400 churches, Odessa and its Potemkine battleship, others more sadly famous like Tchernobyl and some authentic celebrities, the writer Nicolas Gogol and the type-setter Prokofiev "Pierre and the wolf", the Soviet leader Nikita Krouchtchev, the athlete Sergueï Bubka or the idol of the mod current, the centre-forward of Milan AC Andreï Shevchenko.

As of the descent of the plane the visitor is put in the bath: a soldier arms with the belt awaits you the foot of the footbridge. Fortunately in the interminable queue for the passage of the customs, a skewer of blondes unloads absolutely SUBLIMES. Large, fine rolled it should be seen how, one thinks that they must come from a school of models. But not. All the girls who arrive in the tail are well dressed in the same way, with the navels and the strings exceeding jeans except one as a strict tailor made up whom I located in the flight coming from obviously returning Budapest of his work which surely acts of a turning in Hungary as good numbers of girls kind Alexa May. One would regret some almost finally after 20 minutes of waiting to find itself finally released in nature after having duly filled a chart with immigration. I hurry to buy a telephone chart to contact Natacha of the agency Gia and patient 40 minutes with the airport pushing back the offers of the taxi drivers seeing arriving a tourist, I do not know their proposals for tariffs but transfer A/R amounts to 80 $, with the return in the very beautiful sports car there was also an English punter speaking about forty years having finished its meeting with Ksusha undoubtedly and that he left by tightening the hand coldly to him obviously I do not regret not to have passed from time with this girl, correct physique but without less less beautiful than on the photographs where The visit of the Ukraine starts with 30 minutes of motorway before reaching Kiev which is announced by tens of buildings in construction and the sign familère of Mac Do. One is never very far finally from at home. But not time to make tourism. Displacements in Kiev are very simple. Any driver can play the taxis. It is enough to advance you on the roadside. At the end of 30 seconds quelqun goes arreter and with the help of 20 grivnas it will take you along where you want (River palace, Modabar.). After a rapid passage on the edges of Dniepr and a visit in front of the palate Maryynskiy return to the apartment where the girls from Gia unload the ones behind the others, make watch of an enthusiasm which gives pleasure to see even while these young ladies are with the make-up, they wet truly in full action and even in the préléminaires is well not to deal with automats. They all are timid at the beginning but progressively are released while keeping they also an incomparable naturalness. They all are much more beautiful than on the photographs and Larisa especially I crack about it for it since I saw it in photograph in his private life going to his university. And yet, some have the air truly aguerries knowing to kiss with the perfection and enchainer the positions behaving like a GFE while keeping the clean and arranged apartment. You astonish after that that the Ukrainian marriage bureaus have the dimension. I make one report because I spent only one weekend to Kiev of which a day to visit the city. Indeed for this stay I made confidence entirely with Gia the agency of escorts (apartments, escorts and transfers) and I was right because this agency is very serious. I also wanted long meetings to change. To start I am able with delay and nobody awaits me the airport I manage to buy a telephone chart and contacts a charming voice which is that of Natacha who manages the planning of these young ladies. She starts by send me a driver and giving me an apartment in full downtown area and apparently like my tastes well because it proposed to me for the first evening Larisa who is called in February 2008 Rita, she is a blonde as I like them too much but made up and makes too street walkers to my taste but this does not remove of anything immense moral quality girl since it continues studies of engineer, it does not lie bus Annia his/her girlfriend showed me the following day of the photographs of it in its life deprived in indeed I find cracking it. As regards the services it offers the BBBJ but I find that it does not do it rather well however you will be astonished that one can indeed take this charming young woman by the "small door" it does not refuse anything his small hole is very acceuillant. However the complete night (10 hours actually 12h30 the girl was smelled well with me and was with the current of the hour since it had her watch around the wrist) I had a big problem because she puts a too small condom to me before Al to penetrate and that hurt me then to bleed so much so that I believed that the girl had her rules indeed on penis of 18 cm in erection whereas mine is longer and especially larger. It realized error afterwards but I was satisfy final to make his knowledge in spite of being able to make the super one good and super hardware with bus this girl likes the sex, I would like to be happy to be his boyfriend, no smoke no cellular phone.

Rate: 7/10

Then I wanted to make my first experiment a length booking one 24 hours with Annia for the moderate amount of 355€ I gave him more for it has the fine bus his agency retains 60% of the profits to him. It is another superb blonde girlfriend of Larisa and besides they spoke about me and even as Annia wanted me arranged a free meeting with Larisa thinks that I am a good boy and I an private life I am sure to fall in love with her (I dislike Larisa's make up when she sleeps it's an angel). Have regard of the timetable charged with these young ladies was not made difficult thing one Saturday evening but seems given part. In any case Annia was prevented that it was to join me the morning and for this reason (voluntarily) forgot to take condoms. All manners I enjoyed time so much because it has a superb body sweety and creamy skin it is large natural breast 90C but it FIAT not of anal and as opposed to what known as the site she is Russian what is an enormous quality and comes more particularly from Murmansk its true name is not Ania and does not make a CIF, I think she's just a hooker I would be happy to be with her to her beginning at Kiev because she was shy and I like it but nice body and very good on a bed, her back is sexy!

Rate: 6/10

Other contacts: not-pros: Tenderness Natalya semi-pros: Tanya with 250€ per night, Diana, Alisa with 150€ the night anal included and to finish a mature woman who doesn't speak English but which is charming Marina to 80€ 2 hours.

To conclude bring back your condoms and do not make the same error that me but I especially spent a super weekend with splendid girls. I am sure I will book again in this agency.

[QUOTE=LifeSavour]

Don't think one need's a degree from an accredited higher learning institution
to 'fuck' out of RP!

LS Guy[/QUOTE]True! Anyway RP's still a good option if you are very short of time.

T66, $200/night still doesn't seem to be a problem for me and I broke my ban of RP for 3 years when I went home with Natasha the other night. The reason being she remembered our meeting at RP in September almost word for word - the girl was obviously very interested in meeting me and she did not disappoint. I'm still getting opening offers of $300 with the 8+ girls. We'll see what we can do for you. Remember, any night with Cruiser D is subject to my Terms of Service agreement. ;)

RV, VV or whomever you are. I realize English is not your first language, probably 3rd or 4th after Martian. But after seeing the word GIA in your report I just lost all interest.

[QUOTE=Hecker]Many people in Ukraine do not know the difference in rate between euro and dollar....now when dollar is constantly devalued towards grivna they start .....[/QUOTE]Mental process! What CONSTANT DEVALUATION? 5. 05 It has been there for almost 2 years (or more).

Don't get confused by the YELLOW SIGN exchange shops. Of course you will always see a large fluctuation with them. 4. 80 to?

LS Guy

First off, anyone else get the latest issue of the Kyiv Post? Front page; looks like Erik Ainger skipped town owing some investors about 300k. The investors tried to file criminal charges against him but the police could not find him. Even though it's common knowledge he is in Odessa trying to do a little clubbing and conning there. So the investors filed civil charges against him. Gotta love the Ukrainian legal system. He's missed the last two appearances he was supposed to make. When contacted by the Kyiv Post he said he would show up to court - with a lawyer if he can afford one or to defend himself.

Typical club promoter story. Hit some luck and go on a streak. When his luck goes south he tries to feed his current lifestyle with whatever money he can - usually not his. He had it pretty good in Kiev for the last ten years. I remember when I saw him in Shooters 4 years ago. I said to my buddy wow, never trust a smiling, happy, dancing German. :)

Now for the dirty part! I tried my hand today with an incall girl I found on Top Models. And I took the Metro to get there! I feel so dirty – I have been taking shower after shower all day long, well, it was usually with her but that’s not the point. Before you know it I will be living on the left bank! Had a great time with the girl. CBJw/DT, Doggie, Mish, Cowboy, pop, backrub, CBJw/DT, pop. A little expensive at 600uah. But hey, it beat the 750uah pizza!

USD-EUR-UAH. The exchange rate used to be 5.20-5.35 when I first started coming to Kiev 4 years ago. The USD-UAH are pegged to each other by law in Ukraine to combat inflation after the last bank crash. I wonder what they plan on doing after the next bank crash? Oh wait, they already figured that one out. They are selling off the banks to foreign, mostly European companies. :)

Sorry I meant constant devaluation of dollar towards euro.You took 5.4 grivnia for 1 dollar 4 years ago and 5.7 grivnias for 1 euro.So dollar and euro was almost the same in peoples' mind.Now for 1 euro you get 7.2 grivnias(it was 6.8 grivnias in July) but I noticed that many people in province cannot tell the difference in value between dollar and euro eg a pro asking for 50 euro can take 50$ as well or 300 grivnia.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]First off.... the dirty part! I tried my hand today with an incall girl I found on Top Models. And I took the Metro to get there! I feel so dirty – I have been taking shower after shower all day long, well, it was usually with her but that’s not the point. Before you know it I will be living on the left bank!...... :)[/QUOTE]Dirty! Metro, yellow bus. How else can an old, poor guy meet a girl!

LS Guy

PS - 8 to 10 liters of pivko adds up each day!

[QUOTE=Cruiser D] .. Erik Ainger skipped town .. [/QUOTE]

Is this the Erik of 111/112 fame? And a host of other restaurants too?

Bloody hell.

Still, 300K should buy him some fun in Odessa. Say ~50K to bribe the police, $250 left over. Not bad.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Alena, 21, single, no job, no house. London - April - October, this year.

Svetlana, 25, single, good job, no house. London October.

Yulia, 20, single, no job, no house, student. London last year December.

Like I said Q, how many girls to you personally know who have applied for a visa, followed the proper procedure and was turned down?

The only country I know of that is almost impossible to get a visa for girls is the US. With the exception being student girl work visas. It's extremely easy for student girls to get summer time work visa to the US (someone needs to flip the burgers). I don't know why more don't do it. It used to be easy to get a 90 day fiancée visa to the US, but that is one of the many things W screwed up during his reign of terror.

With Ukraine entering the WTO soon look for visa regs to drop a little more with member countries. I'm sure the odd regs Ukraine adopted for stays over 90 days will disappear soon too. They were adopted to prod WTO membership along - so there should be a lot of happy sexpats soon.[/QUOTE]

My hat of to you!
I am the fool on that one, things must have changed for the better.
Back three years ago it was near impossible without what I first listed!

Ash, I doubt he has 300k in hand. I'm sure most of that went to keep his house of cards up. I liked 111 but most of his other ventures were 2nd rate at best. A Kiev that has become more sophisticated just squeezed him out. I don’t think he had any real promoting background – I think he was a software engineer. He was just another expat in Kiev with a story who made it big for a while.

Q, I haven't done it personally. I have no interest in taking a girl to England. It's just second hand information I was told by the girls. I doubt any of them lied to me. One girl has a sponsor, another has a good job that travels a lot and the other..?