Pattaya Reports

I still feel like I am having an ejaculation and an orgasm though, as noted, no substance appears except sometimes pre cum or even a bit of urine. A lot of woman expect to see sperm as part of the sexual act, and if it's not there, then they think they have not satisfied you in some way. That can be a problem. Of course, at a massage place, a visible ejaculation would be impossible to attain and I prefer not to deal with it or just tell them no when they decide to pursue that option. Basically, I look for legit spas as soapies etc. Are off the menu.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2784971]That sounds fine to me. As long as I can still orgasm I don't see the problem. Or is the feeling of the ejac part of the enjoyment of orgasm that we're unaware of?[/QUOTE]

This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, streetwalkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. [/QUOTE]Sadly I agree. Though with one caveat. Some good-looking girls can be found in the Gogos. But you will be paying a premium, with no guarantee of the kind of GFE treatment I look for. My bread and butter used to be FLs at Ibar, Insomnia, 808, Lucifer, and (way back when) Red Car. And I had some memorable times with girls there. But during recent trips I found I would go nights on end without finding a doable girl (at least one that isn't already taken). I also liked Soi 6. Could find an occasional gem in the rough there. But my man Banna Boi, who I have often hit the 6 with in the past, and who was there a couple of months back, says it's just awful and not even worth it to go there anymore.

That is why I am in no hurry to get back to Pattaya. I have not been back since 2018. I have found greener pastures elsewhere (Cambodia, Indonesia). If you do see a good-looking girl. Even if it is just in the street at daytime. Be ready to pounce. It may be the only opportunity of the trip (though be nice and polite, not lewd and rude, when you do approach here).

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2785051]Sadly I agree. Though with one caveat. Some good-looking girls can be found in the Gogos. But you will be paying a premium, with no guarantee of the kind of GFE treatment I look for. My bread and butter used to be FLs at Ibar, Insomnia, 808, Lucifer, and (way back when) Red Car. And I had some memorable times with girls there. But during recent trips I found I would go nights on end without finding a doable girl (at least one that isn't already taken). I also liked Soi 6. Could find an occasional gem in the rough there. But my man Banna Boi, who I have often hit the 6 with in the past, and who was there a couple of months back, says it's just awful and not even worth it to go there anymore.

That is why I am in no hurry to get back to Pattaya. I have not been back since 2018. I have found greener pastures elsewhere (Cambodia, Indonesia). If you do see a good-looking girl. Even if it is just in the street at daytime. Be ready to pounce. It may be the only opportunity of the trip (though be nice and polite, not lewd and rude, when you do approach here).[/QUOTE]Finally broke my Pattaya cherry tonight. It was with a 30 year old Beach Road girl that quoted me 1000 baht plus 200 baht for the room. 1200 baht total seems like a fairly good deal considering I got her to do BBBJ. Her body was pretty good with no baby marks even though she had three kids. No saggy boobs, decent enough face, and pussy that was still tight, what more could I ask for? Probably a solid 7, and given how poorly things have been going for me so far in Pattaya I'm extremely happy with this.

BTW how is it that guys are having such a blast on Soi 6? I walked by there awhile ago around 9:30 PM and it seemed like a high school dance. A bunch of girls standing out in front trying to entice guys to come in, and of the guys that are sitting down drinking, they are drinking by themselves or with a buddy looking bored with no girls to entertain them. Is that how it is? Are these girls just taking your drink orders only? I went to Soi 6 earlier today and had an awful time much like those lonely guys. I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.

Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.

I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785084]BTW how is it that guys are having such a blast on Soi 6? I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile in the Brazil thread, guys are complaining about getting mobbed by chicks. Guys don't want to go to Soi 6 because the girls don't pay them any attention and guys don't want to go to places in Brazil because the girls pay them too much attention.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2784176]Centaurus was a nightmare, which is unfortunate because the experience itself ended up being quite good with the girls in the room. There is one thing with the girls being aggressive, but we could not even get a drink in the damn place we were just being bombarded to the point we had to be rude with some of them. I am assuming this is because they could see a mile away that we were tourists, but Ill never set foot in that place again.[/QUOTE]

Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.

I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2785109]Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.

I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.[/QUOTE]It's been a few months but during my last visit to Red Car I was the only customer in the place at 22:00. If you are on Walking Street it only takes a minute to pop in and have a look around. Hopefully you have better luck than I did. Things can change dramatically in a few months.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down.[/QUOTE]So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?

Did you visit pinup agogo?

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2784954]My doc friend has informed me that the issue or the problem is not semen deficiency. I am ejaculating means no less semen. I can eat oysters if I like them but to eat as a supplement for zinc or to put me on zinc pills is not needed. His exact words to me......[/QUOTE]Thanks for this information. Life is a continual learning experience and I am guided accordingly by posters like yourself and Tomasb.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.[/QUOTE]The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.

I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.

Pattaya good or bad? I'm not going to disagree with Bluat but your post would be a lot more informative if you named the BARS you went to make your conclusion. I mean if you walked in to Pin Up, Baccara, and Palace I'm sure you would have a MUCH different perspective of the quality of gogo girls than if you walked into say Living Dolls and Bliss. Also the night of the week you go to the bars makes a huge difference as well as the time of the night you visited. You are not going to get a good idea of the quality of girls at Palace or Pin Up if you go there at midnight vs going there at 9 pm. Anyone decent is barfined by midnight.

Frog Bar complex. Been wondering about this place. It just reopened when I was leaving Pattaya but it looked really nice and was rocking. I know one poster on here doesn't feel we need actual reports in the Pattaya Reports thread but I'd like to hear from someone on the ground how Frog Bar complex is doing.


[QUOTE=Bluat;2785084] I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]

Show your charm and convince her to stay by your side without having to buy her a drink. Otherwise buy her a drink or at least start asking her about going upstairs. She's there to make money not to entertain you. If she doesn't get at least her 50 baht from the drink you buy her why should she stay with you and let you feel her up and DFK her? That's not a Thailand thing it's the same for all countries in SEA. Some countries' girls are just more tolerant than others. I've had what happened to you at Soi 6 happen to me as well. I would just walk up to that girl and ask her to come back, make her laugh, or buy her a drink. Of course if you pick the fat short ugly girl she'll stay with you all afternoon in hopes that you will be her 1 barfine for the week.

[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041] unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.[/QUOTE]

Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians. Sure Germany has better looking white girls but anyone who has been going since the 2000s will tell you Germany is crap now compared to back then. Other issues with Germany is that it's 70 euro just to get in the door of some clubs. Girls upsell everything to COB, COF, BBBJ, BBFS, and even freakin' DFK. A session there can cost 200 euro per hour now in addition to what you paid to enter the club. Let's not forget that hotels are more expensive, you need to rent a car, and Germany is one of the dullest countries you could ever visit. I know I've been there 40+ times. On top of all that how much does an all nighter with a FKK girl cost? FKK girls squirm if you try taking a photo too. Buy a drink for a Thai girl at Soi 6 and she will let you take a video of her DFKing you.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2784945]Sensations

This place has really gone to shit. Used to be top 3 or 4 before COVID. I remember in 2018, they boasted close to 200 girls a night with 4 rotations. [/QUOTE]

I think it was more like 2015 to 2017 when it was really good. For me it wasn't great even in 2018. But you saw my face when we walked in a few months ago. I would have walked right back out if the manager wasn't so happy I came back to his bar.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2784922]Agreed, some people just need to complain for no reason.[/QUOTE]

Yep. No more reviews from me on here.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2785147]The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.

I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.[/QUOTE]To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker (as against a hooker LOL). Sometimes I would walk so much that my feet would develop blisters. Ah! Those were the days (evenings). At least there was so much quantity to choose from that I would find 2-3 girls every night. But with number of freelancers down so much of late, I wonder if it worth going to Pattaya any more.

I doubt if even 200 girls show on beach road now a days.

Please let me know if I am wrong, I don't want to be right!

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2785147]I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785204]Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians.[/QUOTE]I agree with Banana Boi, do your mongering where you like the locals. For me, it's Asia. I've never visited Columbia but I doubt I would find the Columbian girls hotter than the Thai girls. The closest I've ever come to mongering in Columbia is many trips to Tijuana where a few scattered Columbian girls make their way to work in Hong Kong club (yes, they were among the best performers). I like demure personalities, thin legs, small butts, small breasts, and delicate facial features. I won't find much of that in Columbia or any part of South America.

I spent two weeks in Cartagena this fall and have been about a dozen times through the years. It has gotten progressively worse each visit in terms of the chica quality and your personal safety. This is compounded by desperate Venezuelans who are in inundating Cartagena and other cities. In terms of safety there are many documented cases of chicas using knock out Micky type drugs and some tourists have died as a result. Look on the Medellin thread for more details.

On this last trip, I had to defend myself against five chicas who surrounded me in a well lit public area and attempted to steal my phone and wallet. They were not successful because I punched one of them in the stomach. Only then did they back off.

In terms of attractiveness, it's no contest. South Americans have a lot of big silicone enhanced butts and breasts and can't compare to Asians. Also, Cartagena and other cities don't have real go-go's to see girls dancing etc. And their prices can be outlandish.