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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968465]I agree this BB topic gets extremely boring. Would be nice if the moderators would delete all posts on it not in the correct thread.
The ISG could be improved immensely by strong moderation.[/QUOTE]What makes you think there isn't already all the moderation and post deleting the powers that be here are interested in enforcing and that they just don't happen to agree with you and other complainers that the BB / condom / no condom topic is boring and / or inappropriate for this thread?
Maybe they think it is quite useful, appropriate for the topics addressed in this thread and ultimately helpful to both the practitioners and customers of Bangkok's P4 P scene.
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Nana
Decided to look in Jail Birdz for the first time. The structure in the middle if the dance floor was just a big nuisance. I guess the bar could be called Billboard 2 as they a suds bath with topless girls. Unfortunately there were far too few topless girls. Most girls needed to get more gear off to create some interest. I could not see a single girl I would consider doing.
They have a very nice mamasan Lek that I knew well from being a Dollhouse waitress and eventually a mamasan. Ot is not enough to save the place. They could well sack every girl and move a new set from Billboard.
The girls were just far too a average. To be fair I was not that early maybe 10.30 pm and the best girls could have gone already.
One quite good looking girl stood in front of me trying to get attention. I ignored her due to the nose not being too good. Probably a nose job.
My ex Billboard girl Tukata apparently quit Jail Birdz long ago. She would be easily far prettier than all that were there.
I think they have to get some pretty girls or die.
I moved on to Mercury. Big contrast. Definitely a few lookers in there. I was attracted to a tall skinny I had not seen before so called her for a drink. Name was Biw. Cute nose all natural girl. Mercury had another Biw but the old Biw was not there.
New Biw turned out to be working her very first day. What is more I guessed she had no experience and yes turned out she had just turned 18, previously could not work.
I asked if she could understand English at all. She did not understand the question as was asked in English. So her English was a big zero. She says she will be working every night and yet has to go to school in the daytime. Financial problems. She mentioned mother but not father.
So even she is cute slim and had nice pussy shape under the bikini, she could struggle with ability to converse only in Thai. I did not intend to fuck anyone as had a bad cold and below par. I did not actually ask if she was available for sex. However I was really tempted thinking she could well be a virgin as far as non Thai men went.
Perhaps another day I won't be able to resist. Obviously she will have virtually no experience or skills but perhaps could do a GFE if not too shy. She has never tried drinking alcohol so I will probably give her just one alcoholic drink next time to see how she copes and perhaps inhibitions could be be alleviated as well. If I can get a tongue kiss out of her, that will seal it I think.
I feel a bit dirty old man to be thinking of taking a young girl with so little experience, but at least she could do with a nice guy who can speak Thai to break her in easy so to speak. She could be a nympho for all I know however I did get the shy vibe initially.
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My impression with her that night was more of the latter.[/QUOTE]I have seen her before so I believe 3 months could be right.
I prefer the non pushy girls. She was clearly giving me a subtle look today as if, "I am looking at her so surely I want her" LOL.
However I did not call her.
It is up to you to try to evaluate the chemistry, so none of us could second guess whether she might have been keen or not.
I got a feeling she would take me, without even even having sat together. LOL Of course getting a great GFE is another thing.
Susan seems to be a strange name. Never met a Thai calling herself Susan before. Still always can be a first especially if her English is very good.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1968588]What makes you think there isn't already all the moderation and post deleting the powers that be here are interested in enforcing and that they just don't happen to agree with you and other complainers that the BB / condom / no condom topic is boring and / or inappropriate for this thread?
Maybe they think it is quite useful, appropriate for the topics addressed in this thread and ultimately helpful to both the practitioners and customers of Bangkok's P4 P scene.[/QUOTE]Its obvious the moderation is weak since the forum rules forbid this topic in threads other than the prescribed thread. Perhaps you never read the Fourm rules or guidlines or whatever they are called here.
In particular it forbids posters to be chastising guys who are doing bareback and supposedly unsafe all but in the safe sex thread. In other words, your opponents are not permitted to start the argument here.
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I was recently in Bangkok for a quick stop over.
Baccara. I am a big fan of go-gos. Have to say, the line up at Baccara on a Saturday evening is exceptional. I am sure every place picks up that night but this was something else. Only place that could compare would be Whatsup at Walking Street. The costs for ST seem to be 3 k std. Does that vary basis day of the week / talent wise?
Eden Club. Read great reviews about the place and urge to try a threesome got me there. Line up seemed week for a Saturday evening. Girls were experienced and knew their trade. Basically you get to chose a girl and she closes a friend and off you go.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968645]
Susan seems to be a strange name. Never met a Thai calling herself Susan before. Still always can be a first especially if her English is very good.[/QUOTE]Yes, I never met a Thai girl calling herself Susan either and asked her to repeat it a couple more times in all the bar noise because it just didn't seem right. But it sure sounded like that every time. So I used it and called her by that name afterwards without her correcting me. I have met at least one Sue. Maybe the acceptance of that name has now evolved to Susan. LOL.
She zeroed in on me outside the bar where she and a few other girls hang out in their robes and pretty much insisted I go inside where she would join me. Which she did but our meeting inside was delayed by the sudden arrival of another girl in street clothes (this was about 8:45 pm) who I'd taken before and she was all over me at the moment.
It is also possible that her seeing the other girl with me and so physical about it was behind her somewhat cool attitude about being barfined by me, as if she would creating conflict if she did the same. No way to know. I just wasn't inspired to choose either one that night.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968645]It is up to you to try to evaluate the chemistry, so none of us could second guess whether she might have been keen or not.[/QUOTE]If the gal is skilled at her job, then she will create an illusion of "chemistry. " If she is not, she won't.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968652]Its obvious the moderation is weak since the forum rules forbid this topic in threads other than the prescribed thread. Perhaps you never read the Fourm rules or guidlines or whatever they are called here.
In particular it forbids posters to be chastising guys who are doing bareback and supposedly unsafe all but in the safe sex thread. In other words, your opponents are not permitted to start the argument here.[/QUOTE]Even though I might prefer your interpretation of the forum rules or whatever they are called, I have not yet found what you are referring to. Looking in the forum FAQ the only or primary purpose mentioned for moderation at all is to keep spam out and make the threads easier to read. Otherwise, it is clearly stated that posting "XYZ" (assuming that means whatever anyone wants to post. ?) is fine.
But maybe I just haven't located the other rules or guidelines you're referring to.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1968747]If the gal is skilled at her job, then she will create an illusion of "chemistry. " If she is not, she won't.[/QUOTE]I would agree with that. But being good at her job might also mean she won't lead a man she is repulsed by into pestering her for a take out / ST or get caught by a regular income provider of hers due in anytime crawling all over another customer or, worse, walking out with another customer the moment the regular customer is arriving as planned.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1968747]If the gal is skilled at her job, then she will create an illusion of "chemistry. " If she is not, she won't.[/QUOTE]That is a big if. A lot of us have years of experience and do detect when girl does not seem straight forward or natural. Poor acting is noticed. Any girl acting at all too wildly over the top certainly gets eliminated by me. I also like to watch girls in their interactions with other girls to see if they act sweet, bitchy, arrogant, snickering etc.
I don't find myself fooled by fake chemistry that often these days. Less mistakes are made by being very slow to decide to pull the trigger. I talk bargirls of course where can take time to decide.
Chemistry is no guarantee the girl will like your dick however or even like fucking a lot.
Not many bargirl mistakes this year. In contrast not many succeses with freelancers on the street or in Thermae. Those seem to often girls not expecting to have to give proper GFE, and they are not normally into spending significant time on a prospective customer before the decision is made.
As for MP girls, really only found one this year up to my standard of looks and GFE. Its much easier for me to sit in bar and survey girls for a long period before selectly a likely hottie, if don't know them already. Just too much looks and attitude oriented. Both need to satisfy me before trying. I fib. Stunning looks only can cause me to pull the trigger quickly. Rush of blood. However that is rare.
I am actually very anti social. I like to watch girls for a period before deciding to talk to them. This is why a bar suits me well. Just ignore girls approaching me. Cant be bothered to talk to everyone. Only those I know or want to know.
However it gets ridiculous now with lady drinks at 200 baht in some bars. Not sure if lady makes half or not. Bars have got too pricey, probably caused by customers that sit on a drink for a very long time and buy no girl drinks. Bar girls have got too pricey as well. Amazing that the crap ones can be asking for 3000 as well in some bars. I have not taken any bargirls recently and last one was a girl known for years. So choose carefully. It is good to have a girl keeping me out of the bars mostly.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1968750]Even though I might prefer your interpretation of the forum rules or whatever they are called, I have not yet found what you are referring to. Looking in the forum FAQ the only or primary purpose mentioned for moderation at all is to keep spam out and make the threads easier to read. Otherwise, it is clearly stated that posting "XYZ" (assuming that means whatever anyone wants to post. ?) is fine.
But maybe I just haven't located the other rules or guidelines you're referring to.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules#postingguidelines[/URL].
"NO Safe Sex Complaints.
No Safe Sex Complaints Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.
No Safe Sex Bragging Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment. ".
Clearly you are in breach of the forum rules and also extremely boring for other members so kindly desist.
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[QUOTE==*****man;1968835][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules#postingguidelines[/URL].
"NO Safe Sex Complaints.
No Safe Sex Complaints Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However.
No Safe Sex Bragging Members may not repeatedly post about or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment. ".
Clearly you are in breach of the forum rules and also extremely boring for other members so kindly desist.[/QUOTE]LOL. Thanks for the link.
And nice try at misdirection, *****man. But I have never made a post here or anywhere else that would fit those "What is not good" Guidelines for this site. However, the poster who wrote this on 11/21/2016 was obviously doing so:
[QUOTE=*****man]Boasting about unprotected sex is inevitably going to lead to a reaction so why are guys coming on here doing that? If they want to go bareback, do it but why try and convert others? It seems that some people's psychiatric issues are being played out on this forum at the moment.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968795]That is a big if. A lot of us have years of experience and do detect when girl does not seem straight forward or natural. Poor acting is noticed. Any girl acting at all too wildly over the top certainly gets eliminated by me. I also like to watch girls in their interactions with other girls to see if they act sweet, bitchy, arrogant, snickering etc.
I don't find myself fooled by fake chemistry that often these days. Less mistakes are made by being very slow to decide to pull the trigger. I talk bargirls of course where can take time to decide[/QUOTE]That's kind of my point. With a good actress, you will never know. Many are great actresses. It is an essential skill to succeed in their job. They are in the P4 P industry. They are mostly in their 20's. To think they would be honestly attracted to those of us in our 50's and 60's is really kind of delusional, don't you think? They are attracted to dudes closer to their age. No doubt about that. We are their meal tickets. The greater the illusion they create, the greater the potential payday and the better chance of a repeat. It's all business. I accept that and have no problem with that. As long as they are delivering the service it makes no difference. Because in the end we are paying them to perform a service for us. Not unlike any other service we buy. When we lose site of that we suffer and the scene suffers.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1968751]I would agree with that. But being good at her job might also mean she won't lead a man she is repulsed by into pestering her for a take out / ST or get caught by a regular income provider of hers due in anytime crawling all over another customer or, worse, walking out with another customer the moment the regular customer is arriving as planned.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Many of the gals are far more savvy than we give them credit for.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968795]However it gets ridiculous now with lady drinks at 200 baht in some bars. Not sure if lady makes half or not. Bars have got too pricey, probably caused by customers that sit on a drink for a very long time and buy no girl drinks.[/QUOTE]Well, if their idea of a fix for customers nursing expensive drinks in order to make them last longer is to make the drinks even more expensive, I don't see the bars coming out ahead on that plan. Hell, they're even losing you and you have never been a cheap charlie when it comes to buying drinks for yourself and spreading the Lady Drink wealth around before.