The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.
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The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786899]Everyone has a basis for their rating system. And the best way to find out what their basis is just ask. It's not that hard to do instead of going on a rant.[/QUOTE]So I am asking you. How does your 1-10 scale work? Where do you place the quadriplegics with plastic limbs and old grandmas with heavy makeup? What about a pretty clothed girl with full blown AIDs?
1. First explain how somebody hacked your account to wrote 2 conflicting comments below.
2. Then explain how can you scale up to 10 which is perfection and don't ever see them naked? Maybe they had a dick or baby damage or saggy tits, but you can still give them an 8 score on a darkly lit Beach? 10 is perfection of a 100% score and you can do it with your X ray vision eyes?
I give NOBODY a 10 on this Earth ever. LOL.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786383]Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8. [/QUOTE]
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I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her.
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[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786939]So I am asking you. How does your 1-10 scale work? Where do you place the quadriplegics with plastic limbs and old grandmas with heavy makeup? What about a pretty clothed girl with full blown AIDs?
1. First explain how somebody hacked your account to wrote 2 conflicting comments below.
2. Then explain how can you scale up to 10 which is perfection and don't ever see them naked? Maybe they had a dick or baby damage or saggy tits, but you can still give them an 8 score on a darkly lit Beach? 10 is perfection of a 100% score and you can do it with your X ray vision eyes?
I give NOBODY a 10 on this Earth ever. LOL.[/QUOTE]There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Don't need X-Ray visions to have a good idea of what a girl will look like. If you are hung up about me saying "I think I saw an 8" please understand that "think" means exactly that. I can't qualify for sure because I couldn't take her home with me so she only appears to potentially be an 8, not saying she was 100% an 8. Just calm down and let people use their scale however they want. If someone says a 10 I would ask for clarification if she is Miss Thailand instead of just blasting them like a keyboard warrior.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785698]As a frame of reference for Asian girls a 10 to me is an Asian beauty queen like this year's miss Thailand. 9's are like the Kpop idols, 8's aren't as pretty to be a model, idol or actress but still would be one of the prettiest girls in school. 7's are your girl next door that are cute with nice figures still +/-5 pounds. 6's are at the upper limit of my weight limit and looks. 5's are over the hill or just overweight. I won't touch a 5. This is my points of reference so if someone reads my reviews can now understand what I'm looking for. For those that see my 6's and 5's as 8's and 9's then you'll be in heaven here.[/QUOTE]
I took a walk down Soi 6 today. Lots of young ladies available, but not many silicon enhanced. Most ladies with big tits are also quite hefty, which is the norm for young ladies.
The biggest problem with Soi 6 is how to pick with all the choices.
One lady I know constantly sends me messages asking me to come to her bar to buy drinks (I ignore her). Or, she sends crying face emojis because she has no customers (strangely, when I do go to her, she always has a customer).
Yesterday, she posted on Facebook showing the gold she bought.
You can imagine what I wrote, the next time she sent me a beg message.
Damn that's a few pages wasted on the definition of a 10 (or 5).
Not fuckable.
Fuckable.
Makes it a LOT easier. If I look at my own binary scale? Have to say at least 70% is not_fuckable. This might be for different reasons.
* Too old.
* Too fat.
* Too arrogant (pretty face, big fake boobs but wrong attitude is a pass for me anyway).
* Pricing!
SO I would say fuckable for me is a 6-8. And I do see less of them.
If you mix in the pricing. I would say 2017-2019 I always aimed on the 2 K longtime freelancers (with a beauty score of nextdoor / average).
With inflation the problem is you get that chick not anymore for 2 K. So if you want to spend the same amount as before covid. You end up compromising on looks. If you look for the same kind of chicks as before covid? Well. You probably pay more now.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786856]As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. [/QUOTE]5 or less for me even based on the red lingerie photo. Hard pass. Am I picky? Hell yes.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786968]There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. [/QUOTE]Seems your frame of reference may have to change soon. The Thai ladyboy owner of a bunch of pageants such as Miss Universe and Miss USA has said that pageants will no longer be about how someone looks, but will be about women's empowerment instead. Are you going to let the ladyboys decide your standard of beauty from now on? Kind of ironic for a ladyboy to be talking about empowering women. That is like Superman talking about empowering kryptonite.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786968]There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Don't need X-Ray visions to have a good idea of what a girl will look like. If you are hung up about me saying "I think I saw an 8" please understand that "think" means exactly that. I can't qualify for sure because I couldn't take her home with me so she only appears to potentially be an 8, not saying she was 100% an 8. Just calm down and let people use their scale however they want. If someone says a 10 I would ask for clarification if she is Miss Thailand instead of just blasting them like a keyboard warrior.[/QUOTE]Trust me. I get that everyone has a different scale. I just want to know how they derived their scale. So you say Miss Thailand here is your perfect 10. I'm just curious what happens to the same girl when she doesn't wear make up like in the other pic? You see her on the street. She still a 10? It's the same girl. So has to be right?
I personally need to see them naked to even think about scaling them. Perky tits at least (Cs) a must. Round bottom and not a flat ass or saggy butt is a must. No thigh gaps. Correct arm length. Correct legs to torso ratio. Shoulders no wider than hips. No deep or squeaky voices. Beautiful without make up. Sexier with make up. No stretch marks or cellulite marks. No uneven coloring of the skin or patches. Pussy neatly trimmed not a forest or completely bald. I am just amazed how you can come to all these conclusions by just looking at a Miss Thailand pic.
But on the their hand, now I understand what really happened on Beach Road with the "8" and why you like to walk around Nana Plaza and not go into the GoGo Bars. Yep, it's a ladybugs infestation in Nana Plaza alright. Enjoy the rest of your trip in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2786912]The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.[/QUOTE]Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786856]Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.[/QUOTE]First pic an attractive girl, the next few pics 5-6. After a sixpack and a few G&T's I would rate the girl in the last pic a solid 10 if I'm there and she says " fuck me Daddy" LOL.
The Pattaya area is filled with Russians, typically small families. Because Russian men are fleeing the war. Some can work online, some even have enough money to arrange a long stay visa. But most will either overstay their visa and / or run out of money.
Then you will see their girlfriends or wives working freelance. Give it a few months.
[QUOTE=Allover;2787034]Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.[/QUOTE]And it was always a buyers market 20 years ago. Low season in Pattaya was really low. After Cobra Gold until the end of October Pattaya was pretty empty of tourists, but there was always plenty of gals. I remember when the first Starbucks opened on Beach road at Soi 13. We grab a coffee and sit upstairs and there would literally be no one but us for hours every afternoon. Soi 6 was so much fun as it was all closed bars and no loud music pumping. Bars opened about 2:00 pm and by 6:00 pm they were pretty empty. It was an afternoon hang out and quite fun. Night time you had your pic of several areas to wander and the discos of course after hours were unbelievable. And don't think I ever paid more than a thousand Baht at the time. Most gals you met on the street were 500 and I had some amazing experiences.
And another comment on age. One of the attractions of Thailand back then for a mid-30's dude looking for a place to spend his days and grow old was it the older dudes always had the best looking gals. These were guys in their 50's and 60's and they always seem to have the pick of the litter partially due to the fact that the majority of them were here on fat expat packages or retired with quite a bit of cash. Also most of the gals back then were looking for something long-term and stable as opposed to the quick baht which was much less than it is now. It's a completely different scene now, things change, but for the local the online scene is still very good, and it will never really catch on with tourists.
[QUOTE=Allover;2787034]Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.[/QUOTE]I was here 20 years ago, and for me, the ladies are more or less the same. One difference is that there is more silicon now.
What you are saying is that some of the hotter girls don't go with customers, which is true, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. So, really what your point is that there are fewer hot ladies that go with customers, which is true.
The internet allows women to make money without even seeing a customer, which is really stupid, but I guess there is no lack of lonely morons with cash. So, the hotter ladies can rake in the money and support a Thai husband, which is now more common than 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786856]Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.[/QUOTE]I say 2 on a good day. Hahaha.