Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=Barcrawler]I think the PRC’s are, in general, more professional in their approach, and as Cons68 says, low risk. Unlike a lot of the CIS you do not have to play a lot of games just for a ST session. There is a shell however and once you have broken through you get as good a GFE you could find anywhere, and you will find they are certainly not one dimensional or “flat”, it’s just that until they know you well they keep the emotions and business well separated. And they are certinaly not doormats either![/QUOTE]

This is quite true. The odds that you are going to have a good service is higher with PRC's than it is with CIS. But then again if you are able to "make it" with a CIS lady you will have some of the best encounters in your life. As a rule of thimb an age bracket of over 25 would be more suitable. However one major drawback you need to expect is the alcohol consumption by most of them and the awkward situation you might face when they get drunk.

[QUOTE=Barcrawler]I would agree with MK’s statement “It all comes down to what you are prepared to add to the relationship (because that is what it is).” Or as someone once posted, if you want the GF experience you have to give the BF experience.[/QUOTE]

Very wise statement indeed.

[QUOTE=My Kapitan]I will generalise however, the CIS are pretty racist, they do not like sub continentals and coloured and have no qualms in making this very apparent, years of soviet training... so some of you guys may have fallen foul of this. It may be controversial but it is a fact.[/QUOTE]So for those of us who descend from the Indian sub-continent, is there any point in even attempting a liaison with a CIS girl?

Personally I find them much more attractive than the majority of other ethnicities but unsure whether it is worth it with the inevitable attitude, astronomical prices, and likely poor service.

I would say however that perhaps part of the reaction you get may be linked to where you are. I spent some quality time with a girl who I met in the TGI bar and although it was only ST at her place (I was with family), I can see MK's point about it being totally GF and a very nice experience.

Hello all,

Good job on keeping this an informative thread. I have been an avid reader of these posts, though i dont contribute, well, i don't really monger in DXB either, so can't impart anything of value... when i moved to this sand trap some months back, i did the war driving part with the classifieds and generally found all the places accomodating, some GFE and generally good service, all PRC and all done for between 200 and 350 AED inclusive of a good massage, just wanted to ask a question from those in the know there is one classified posting of a massage place with two outlets (its a prominent ad) generally the other massage places charge 100 for the house this one charges like 350 for the house alone and boasts to have a multinational roundup, anybody try this one, is it worth the extra?

Haven't done the bar scene at all, being a brown guy and eventhough i don't dodge the occassional berry flavored body wash i figured the attitude issues from the CISs would be off putting, and PRC i get my fill off otherwise, for a while i had a regular who would do house calls; also living in that 'other emirate' many issues of walking up a CIS to your place. Talk about walk of shame! Plus the way i like it, i'd have to make a selection by 11:00, 12 at the latest and seems as if prices are going at the peak at those times, though i agree with the YMMV and attitude issues regardless of peak rates or otherwise, and i'd have to hear them ***** about the traffic on the way back, if they agree to LT at my place in the first place.

Not having read much about Sub-continental or middle eastern WGs on this forum, can anybody offer some advice (places and prices)? I read a recent report by piper about having met one and at a reasonable rate, but haven't found much more.

Any info on that other small emirate we all like to buy our booze at!?

While I have enjoyed wonderful company from all over the world, spare a thought for the ´Stanis

You can get the "wild" CIS with some smoking oriental looks, and I have found some of them to have a slightly more "oriental" attitude when it comes to drinking etc. Very hard to generalize here since there are many different cultures involved.

I agree with what has been written here, and of course, it is also down to POV and personal preference, and what you want out of the relationship (excellent choice of phrase gents, I approve!) even if it is a one hour relationship.

Apply this to your everyday life, how many people do you meet who become fast and firm friends? I can generally get along with anyone, but sometimes you run into someone you "click" with and some who you almost instantly dislike, often unfairly.

I can only presume that it is the same with the ladies.

[QUOTE=British Paki]So for those of us who descend from the Indian sub-continent, is there any point in even attempting a liaison with a CIS girl?[/QUOTE]I personally know several CIS girls who have no problem at all with any race. They generally come from a society where racism is a hard fact, but after some time in a more "international" place like DXB, they have overcome the programming.

Would they take you back home to meet Mom? I doubt it, but then again, neither would you! ;)

Is there a point? Yes. If you find them attractive, keep trying, and you will find one who is both attractive to you, and accepting. then be careful forum-mate, you could end up seduced...

When I spoke of CIS I was referring to the FSU... and I thought everybody was. My mistake. Certainly most of the girls I meet are stanis, either ethnice russians (slavic, blonde, pale skin typically), mixed, or ethnic stanis.




[QUOTE=Sporadic]While I have enjoyed wonderful company from all over the world, spare a thought for the ´Stanis

You can get the "wild" CIS with some smoking oriental looks, and I have found some of them to have a slightly more "oriental" attitude when it comes to drinking etc. Very hard to generalize here since there are many different cultures involved.

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[QUOTE=Cons68]When I spoke of CIS I was referring to the FSU... and I thought everybody was. [/QUOTE]Think we are as the 2 terms are the same.

I use the term 'stani to differentiate the LOOKS of the Uzbekistanis, Kazakstanis, Kirgiestanis, Tajikistanis, where-the-fuck-stans, who SHOW the asian influence in their face, with the "slavic, blonde, pale skin" or 'dark hair, ROUND eyed' "western russians, ukrainians, european style" looks (who I refer as CIS).

But that's just me.

Cons, I understood the implied FSU, but as you know, there are degrees there. I do enjoy what used to be called the "Not Chinese" at the Regal.

My GF is Russian all the way, but my latest DXB flame is a Khazak who is a stunning mix of east and west, looks Chinese but has a Slavic facial bone structure, Slavic slim body and that pure silk, long dark Chinese hair... mmmmm. ;)

I guess that 16 years on we should start calling them by the correct terms though "Russian-style attitude" could work also.

BTW, just for the record, I think much of the "aloof attitude" is just bluster. FSU folks had a lot of baggage to carry, and are only now getting their "Putin" on as it were on the world stage. When I make it clear to them I admire their culture and country (they certainly did their part in WWII) the facade of aloofness often falls away.

One of my favorite lines, and a great equalizer: "[b]Everybody[/b] comes to DXB for money, why else would anyone be here?" This tends to let them know I do not look down upon them as people.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]One of my favorite lines, and a great equalizer: "[b]Everybody[/b] comes to DXB for money, why else would anyone be here?" This tends to let them know I do not look down upon them as people.[/QUOTE]When she asks me if I like dxb (question #5 of the standard litany), it's "Same same everybody, come dubai, make money, GO HOME."

Maybe we should order some tshirts... I also let them know that I am here for purely mercenary reasons. Sometimes (if their English is good enough) with some irony "I am here like you, because I like the weather and the hospitality of the locals."
They usually appreciate it.

[QUOTE=11Bravo]When she asks me if I like dxb (question #5 of the standard litany), it's "Same same everybody, come dubai, make money, GO HOME."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=British Paki]So for those of us who descend from the Indian sub-continent, is there any point in even attempting a liaison with a CIS girl?[/QUOTE]I would take a slight more different approach.

The CIS like the rest, are here to make money. The Subcontinentals guys are on the lower end of the payscale generally in Dubai, not all, but generally.

So chances are the CIS will make less money from the guys orignating from the Subcontinent based in Dubai than for example a European or American on vacation/transit.

So its simple economics.

I have seen CIS girls shun men, who were clearly from the subcontinent at the Regal Plaza,yet at the same time entertain other Asian men dressed in suits or a bit smarter. So maybe dress nicely?

An Asian friend of mine from Sweden has never had any issues whatsoever whether cyclone, regal or Premiere.

So unless you encounter a dead on racist (which is a bigger surprise considering the location of Dubai!) its all about the money.

[QUOTE=My Kapitan]Well said that man.

CIS are the best IMHO but they are hard work and often a challenge. I have never had GFE with a PRC but almost always have with CIS. MK[/QUOTE]
Your loss, I've had plenty of GFE from PRC's.
[QUOTE=My Kapitan] If you just want a no hassle mechanical fuck then a PRC will do. If you want a real woman go for a CIS. MK[/QUOTE]
Wow there's a flippant generalization. Sorry you haven't had any luck with PRC's I've had fantastic experiences, not mechanical at all. I've had short time CIS literally walk in the door and say hurry up and get this over with.

I've had PRC's beg me to fuck them harder including my current "girlfriend" who doesn't want a penny from me as long as I keep fucking her hard. Sorry you haven't had the same luck.

[QUOTE=My Kapitan] They are all oral experts (CIS)and have no hangups over giving BJs but all expect the same oral attention in return! MK[/QUOTE]
Ahhh the last 2 CIS I went with refused blow jobs, I've never had it happen with a PRC. (Oh and I'm white and in good shape)

I'm not disputing this has been your experience but it's not black and white.

You made a lot of generalizations and stated them as fact and I would guess there are a number of members who would disagree with your stereotyping.

Like they say, YMMV...so please don't assume others haven't had the same success with a race of women simply because you haven't.

Am on a short trip to DXB before I move here next month so I hit the rattler due to it being close for me. I have to say, it’s different during Ramadan but not overtly so. It was certainly quieter but there was still enough WG’s to go around. With that said, I think I had an aura or something (I shower, honest!) because anyone I was even remotely interested in was already engaged or, in the case of a CIS hotty, icey cold (I know, I know, they are known for it but I’ve had good luck with them in general).

I stuck around a couple hours, drinking beers and chatting with an English punter, discussing all things expat (since I’m about to become one, officially), but ended up heading home empty handed.

Today I decided to give a call to this Eritrean girl (we’ll call her Ms. L) I got a number off of last month from York. She stopped me to give me shit for only looking at the white women :P. I didn’t really have the energy for the chase and was intrigued with this girl the first time I met her. It was a bit of a gamble since I was dr00nk when I met her but hey, let’s see if lady luck was on my side!

She, as expected, arrived about an hour late but arrived looking fit and trim and ready for fun. Glad she was as good looking as my beer goggles remembers from that dark night at the York!!

Cons: No BJ, no DFK. Normally, these are show stopping deals for me. Like, BIG show stopping. I’ll forgive the no BJ but DFK is too much a part of a quality GFE that I rarely will let that slide, however…

Pros: Exceptional English, her father was allegedly South African so she learned English from him. Very funny/witty girl, tons of personality with a great sense of humor. She got stupid sloppy wet, which is always a favorite of mine, and had convincing orgasms (both from sex and DATY). Her energy was fantastic and she had a booming bubble butt! Lots of passion and very affectionate between sessions.

I had her booked for the whole night but after 5 goes at it, there was no getting sleep for me when she was around so I cut her loose early and gave her the full nights fare. 600+100 for cab. Seemed fair.

Overall, very satisfied. I will probably repeat but won’t be on my “Gold Members” list that I’m working on for when I live here. Would like to have 5-6 gold members I can just call when the itch hits. So fat I have… well, one. Hah! I’m still new, though so lots of hunting left ;).

Few more days left so we’ll see what sort of kind of trouble I can get into before I’m off. Going to be strange living here!!

Jetjo

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Krypto, I think I know where you are coming from, but I did not take MK´s comments to be anti-anything.

He has a preference, and enjoys himself. What is the harm?

We are all generalizing here, all research being based upon chance encounters in the hobby.

One of the most "touching" encounter I ever had was with a PRC lady I first met at TGIT (of all places) Bravo, you remember the snoring lady)) but I have also enjoyed the fierce (meant in the nicest way) attentions of Russian girls who were trying to please "their man."

I think some of it just comes down to personal preference and culture. For a typical western man, the more (shit, how do I write this without sounding trite?) complacent attitude of many PRC ladies is seen as loving and sweet, where as with a stereotypical CIS that attitude must be "earned."

End of the day, we are all fortunate to have such a wide variety of options.
Everyones MMV!

I finally got over to Dubai. This is my general report which will be quite lengthy for my taste so I will break it into three parts.

We arrived at 8pm. There was a very long walk to immigration from the gate. We had planned to stay at Le Meridian Dar Al Sondos as recommended on the forum. When we reached Ground Transportation the free driver from the hotel was waiting with my sign in his hand. We arrived at the hotel about 25 minutes later. I forgot to print the mongering info out, but had it tucked securely into my jump drive. Now all I needed was a computer! The computers in the hotel business center were going for an exuberant amount. I think not. Not knowing which way to go, we decided to take a left on foot out of the hotel. Our first stop was the closest shwarma joint. Between the three of us we had 5 shwarmas, 3 fries, and 3 shakes, 41 AED. I remembered that I also needed to check ISG in order to see if Groin Strain had returned my PM about the cheap spots in Al Baraha. So we stopped in the shopping mall on the same side of the street as the hotel to see if an internet spot was open. No luck. But we did find a cheap kiosk for souvenirs though. After a quick survey we told the guy that we would return the following day because we did not want to lug gifts around while trying to monger.

We continued up the street, passing Imperial (which sounded familiar at the time, but I wasn’t sure). We finally ran into a mall with an internet sign out front. When we got to the door a guy was soliciting us to buy knock-off watches. We decided to take a look in order to get intimate enough to ask where the service providers were. His shop was downstairs, across from a travel/tour agency, and the windows were covered in fabric. One wingman decided to buy a purse for his daughter. And I decided to ask about the ladies. He told me that I could find them at the Ascot and told me in which direction it was located. The name didn’t ring a bell though. When my wingman finished the transaction the guy told me that I could find the internet café on the second floor.

I don’t know where the owner of this café was from but he was a *******. The internet would cost a minimum of 5 AED, which could buy an hour. I put my jump drive into the computer but nothing was coming up. He had the nerve to tell me that there was nothing on my drive. I had to go back and forth with him about me knowing what I have and he finally decided to try it in his master computer. Everything came up as I said. So he put me on another set. I scribbled down the mongering notes that I had had then decided to take a look at ISG. WTF? I could not access ISG! SOB. What is going on? I kept getting a message about the site conflicting with the religious or political beliefs of the country. So I questioned the owner and he told me not to blame him, but blame the server and the government instead. Why did I not know this beforehand? For the same reason I was unable to access a conservative dating site that I frequent.

We left the mall and went in the direction of the Ascot. WTF? An all-night internet café for 1 AED/hour? I have been bamboozled. I paid five times that at the mall. Chalk it up to being a Dubai virgin. What is that I see in the distance? Non other than the York, the second thing I had written on the list.

We had no idea of any dress code but decided to give it a go anyway. When we walked in all of the hotel workers acted if we were long lost pals. They gave us much respect and dapped us up, while it seemed they were giving all of the women who were trying to enter the third degree. When we walked through and set the metal detectors off nobody even gave us a second glance. After passing through the portals of the club we were damn near attacked by some Ethiopian chicks. As many times as I have read in the forum about their aggressiveness nothing could have prepared me for this. I figured it could not be any different than Help disco in Rio. Boy was I wrong. 90% of the African women in there turned out to be just plain pests. They would not take no for an answer and insisted on following us around the club. They would get the hint whenever we started talking to someone else as if they did not exist. But then later others would try to latch on.

I told my wingmen of the price range that I had read about on the forum in order to prepare them. They just laughed and said yeah right. In light of Ramadan there was no music to be heard in the club. However, it worked for me because usually when there is music in a club it is much too loud to hold interviews with the girls. About midnight we were near the pool tables eyeing a tall beautiful woman who appeared to us to be Chinese. She was shooting pool as if she was a shark. We would discuss lost dreams of her until well into the next evening. Somehow we started chatting with a gentleman who said he was from Ireland but had been living in Dubai for seven years. He seemed to know his stuff so I gave him a rundown of my list to see what he thought.

Rattlesnake: No. It’s simply a bar and it’s 40km away.
Jockey: No. Waste of time. Another bar. Many Russians.
Regal: Really expensive. Not recommended.
Ascot: Don’t even think about it.
Imperial: Now you are talking. It is only a couple of minutes away and the fish will be biting around closing.
Al Baraha: Chinatown? But did not know a particular spot.

He tried to school us on the game that we wrote the book on. He said that right now the girls want a lot of money, but when the place closes and they are outside they will accept less. He said that it would be optimal to get them to 200 AED. So in our minds that transferred to 150 for us! He said that he would take us to the Imperial (5 AED taxi on him) and get us in (I was wearing shorts and sandals) if we would buy him a drink when we arrived. It sounded like a deal to me. We headed out of the club with the Africans hot on our trail. But the door was like kryptonite to them. They could not cross the threshold.