Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2787660]After all these years my experience is still the same as yours. Seems like you are ready to get out of there and get back to Sosua though. I guess you can see now why I say that it is obvious that die hard Sosua people do not know other places. Not even the same ballpark.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Mr. E, so sad for them. Many are stuck in nostalgia. It took me 3 for the last time trips (LOL) there to never go again. I haven't been in about 5 years and that trip was dreadful compared to my earliest experiences. I saw a couple YouTubes and would never deal with that BS.

I like Pattaya because there are more brown complexion Thai's and they seem to be more cool. I would love to meet some on these mongers in person who have these beauty standards. I'm just as picky as the next man and I'm certain I can screw as much as I want AND be happy with my choice.

[QUOTE=Martin00;2787685]I don't have posts about FKK but trust me I've been a lot. All right, among the 90% from Romania, the rest can be from Bulgaria, Albania, the odd German frau and some rare Italian / Spanish and Russian. I'd say Russian is less than 1%, is that enough to say "there are Russians in FKK"?[/QUOTE]Just quoting you from your last post: "There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago!. ".

I lost a night.

I had 2 MILFs at my condo to drink tequila in the early afternoon. After a couple of hours, they were naked, and feeling good. The rest of the day is a blur, lots of pussy licking, more drinking, and then I woke up the next day. I guess I didn't go out last night.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786845]

I am at the point where it's.

1. fuckable.

2. not fuckable.

3. pay.

4. not pay.[/QUOTE]I agree with this.

The rating system [B] can [/B]be employed usefully as a shorthand method for gauging talent in a very, very broad sense- but I think everyone can agree it's highly subjective and should not be mistaken for empirical data. The fact that there are so many arguments over it proves this point. The only thing that the rating system tells me with any certainty, is that the monger in question thinks "X" girl is a 8,9, etc. As a first principle, it indicates more about the perceptions of the monger than the qualitative observations that are supposedly embedded within it.

A chat forum completely conceals the identity, visual cues and information that we all need to process to help us consider the value of the source (poster). It would be much different if everyone was required to post an avatar of their actual self and along with that crucial information about who they are- age, income, fitness, etc. You would read posts in a much different way and bias their descriptions and ratings of women against how [B]you[/B] perceived their sexual market value. Without this information you need to take all these posts with a grain of salt. Not only that- but it's also good to retain a healthy amount of skepticism in a general sense- there is a lot of embellishment, fabulism, outright lies and deliberate misinformation that ends up on an anonymous chat forum.

The decile rating system was very popular in the Red Pill community, and still is in the Incel community:

[URL]https://incels.wiki/w/Decile[/URL]

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788106]

A chat forum completely conceals the identity, visual cues and information that we all need to process to help us consider the value of the source (poster). It would be much different if everyone was required to post an avatar of their actual self and along with that crucial information about who they are- age, income, fitness, etc. You would read posts in a much different way and bias their descriptions and ratings of women against how [B]you[/B] perceived their sexual market value. Without this information you need to take all these posts with a grain of salt. Not only that- but it's also good to retain a healthy amount of skepticism in a general sense- there is a lot of embellishment, fabulism, outright lies and deliberate misinformation that ends up on an anonymous chat forum.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The grain of salt is that pictures are rarely posted. I don't mean that we should post pics of girls without permission, or of ourselves, just stating the point.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786845]I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.

I am at the point where it's.

1. fuckable.

2. not fuckable.

3. pay.

4. not pay.[/QUOTE]I could go into detail describing my 8 pt rating system (there are no 9's or 10's and any girl below a 5. 4 is unfuckable), but since I have found my new hunting ground in the Americas, I have been applying a 4 Tier system which I think describes things pretty well.

Tier 1: Are lookers, model quality, girls that most guys would consider 8* and higher on the 10 pt scale. I would simply say a Tier 1 girl is a girl whose beauty on my 1st look blows me away. No need to think about it or see who else is available. A Tier 1 gets an immediate "I want that" response from me. It's an automatic reaction to a girl's beauty, mostly her face. All I can say is I know a Tier 1 the second I spot her.

Tier 2: Are sexy, good looking, girl next door types with nice slender bodies, no baby damage, and they do not wear excessive amounts of makeup. I love Tier 2's, but they don't generate the same immediate response from me as a Tier 1. On the 10 pt scale a Tier 2 would be anywhere from a 6 to 7. 4. In other words, a really nice-looking girl.

Tier 3: Are either Tier 1 or Tier 2 girls who have somehow ruined themselves, IMHO, thanks to large, unnatural silly cones, or butt implants, or baby damage. Pretty faces / ruined bodies. No thanks.

Tier 4: Let's just say these are girls I do not want to shag regardless of the circumstances. Most girls are Tier 4.

But any kind of scale including my 4 Tier system depends on individual subjective tastes. My Tier 3 girl might easily be some else's 9++ girl or Tier 1 if we are still using my system. Photos would be very helpful in demonstrating who here has good taste and who has bad taste in girls, Ha Ha, but there is a reason why few of us post photos on this web site. It is too bad a few internet pencil dicks screwed it up for the rest of us. Rule #1 of ISG: Do not talk about the ISG to the girls. Rule #2 of ISG: Do not show the girls any ISG posted material especially photos of girls.

Walking Street.

Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.

Hilton Club closed.

Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.

More Russian clubs opening daily.

As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.

Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.

LK.

Friends agogo closed.

Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.

Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.

[QUOTE=L00PY;2787666]I still haven't been inside one of those "Russian Girl Show" bars on Walking Street and probably never will. I saw an amusing thing though where a pair young Russian women were standing on Beach Road near Walking Street. A group of Indian guys approached and propositioned them. The women were instantly offended because said they were tourists. The guys were instantly offended because they were just asking.[/QUOTE]This made me laugh for a while hahaha well-written buddy!

A post on another forum got me thinking about this. Size based purely on estimated number of working girls employed in various capacities including online / Sugar sites. I've mongered in most of these places but not all, so some of this is a guess.

[B]Tell me where I'm wrong/right.[/B]

[B]Large and Cheap[/B]

Pattaya.

Bangkok.

Frankfurt.

Rio de Janeiro.

Sao Paolo.

Amsterdam.

[B] Large and Expensive[/B]

Dubai.

Las Vegas.

[B] Medium and Cheap[/B]

Manila.

Angeles.

Tijuana.

Medellin.

Bogota.

Mexico City.

Jakarta.

Panama City.

Phnom Penh.

[B] Medium and Expensive[/B]

Singapore.

Hong Kong.

[B] Small and Cheap[/B]

San Jose.

Jaco.

Sosua.

Kuala Lumpur.

[B] Small and Expensive[/B]

Macau.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2787793]I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.[/QUOTE]The condos are likely to be trash though. The traffic on soi bukhao, 2nd Road, and that entire area is already horrible. Imagine condo owners and cars added to the mix. It would be AWFUL to live there. It also floods like crazy there during the rainy season, they probably don't even have the sewage capacity to support that.

[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2788186]Walking Street.

Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.

Hilton Club closed.

Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.

More Russian clubs opening daily.

As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.

Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.

LK.

Friends agogo closed.

Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.

Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear about new ownership at Pulse. Last fall it was my favorite go go in the LK area. Very good selection and atmosphere. Girls weren't pushy about drinks.

[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2788186]

More Russian clubs opening daily.

As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.

[/QUOTE]Expect more Russian women working in Pattaya over the next few months.

I only realized recently that most bargirls are sleep deprived. A lot cannot sleep when they have overnight customers (for various reasons). Another bunch have Thai boyfriends at home, and the men wake up early for work. Or the Thai men work bar and don't get home until the early morning.

Some have kids living with them, and they get up early for school.

As a result, bargirls are often more emotional and less rational than you would expect. But, no, it doesn't mean that they look forward to getting barfined early so they can get some sleep. They still want to get back to their room and their Tilac as soon as possible. But, if they are forced to spend the night, they will sleep for many hours.

Any place showing it live or with taped delay?

You forgot tier 0. That was tonight for me. A 65 year old woman at the sports bar tonight watching ufc 284 tells me she wants to fuck me. She kept flirting and wouldn't leave me alone. I wanted to throw up. She was your stereotypical desperate older woman that can't get guys to bang her anymore. She was so aggressive it was sickening to watch.