Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1973629]BKKdog, it is very clear that you do not know what you're talking about. I've never had a freelancer LT, who did not stay overnight.[/QUOTE]
Actually he did not say anything that struck me as that strange, so different people are having different experiences. Hard to understand why we are getting so hung up on wishy washy vague terms likes "LT" and "overnight". If not everyone has the same view of its meaning, so be it, and negotiate more detail with girl to avoid misunderstanding.

Suppose you meet a girl that is willing to stay from 10 PM to 4 AM. What are you going to call that? ST or LT? Most girls will label that LT for sure, whether you agree with that definition or not.

LT is obviously short for "Long Time". What is a long time, could be anything 4 hours and above? A visit by a girl from 12 midday to 8PM could be called a LT. It certainly seems to be more than a ST. What matters is a certain number of hours is desired by some, and for others, they might want a certain number of pops. I can't tell in advance how many pops I am capable of but have not achieved more than 2 very often. So I do not focus on number of pops. I am happy to go until one pop in most STs. For anything more than that, I would always discuss how much time the girl can give me and would be looking to do 2 pops. I have booked girls for multiple days on occasions and travelled to a holiday destination. I certainly had no clue in advance how many times we would have sex or how many pops would be achieved, but expected sex twice a day minimum.

There are plenty of bargirls that suggested to me they would need to leave by 6 AM. Technically that maybe "overnight" since it getting light at 6AM, but who cares about definitions. The point is a girl staying till only 6 AM is not that useful to me, so little purpose to me taking a LT of that type, unless we went to sleep by 11PM (not very likely). Perhaps some guys would set alarm for 5am to get in another quickie fuck, and sleep more after the girl leaves at 6AM. Not much point in me waking up only to hear that the girl needs to leave now.

Would be surprised if you never met a freelancer that wanted to leave very early. A large portion of street freelancers have a baby. The person looking after their baby or child may have to go to work during the day. So the freelancer does not always have the option to stay to 8 am or 9 am.

Anyway is clear that if you don't discuss the exact finishing time, you can always get a surprise, so I am in complete agreement with BKK Dog and Red Kilt. Definition of LT means nothing. Discuss the fine detail with the girl is important to reach clear understanding.

Very few freelancers on the street or in Thermae, as examples, are going to give more than one pop in a ST unless that has been discussed, agreed to and factored into the price offered, so as BKK Dog says, outside of MPs, ST is normally considered to be one pop only by default, and girl will often try to leave very soon after if she does not know you well (not always). Plenty of MPs only offer one pop as well by default.

Have made a couple of trips to Bangkok in the past with generally very good results, but have a bit of a tight travel schedule for first leg of this trip so would greatly appreciate some advice.

I will be landing around 11:30 pm on a Saturday, staying at the JW Marriott. Figure I can probably get to the hotel, checked in, etc. By 1 am? Is that too optimistic?

Anyways, coming in business class so hopefully not too jet-lagged and have about 18 hours before my next flight (heading south for some relaxing on a beach). Usually prefer daytime or early evening action (or all night overnight), but this is a novel situation for me.

What is my best option if I'm looking for some action when I get in? Book a girl or two overnight from Bamboo / Mango / Cherry? Get an escort? Hit one of the late-night clubs (Thermae etc) and roll the dice? Book girls to show up early-ish in the morning?

I will be back after my beach trip for a more extended period of time so goal is mainly to get several days' worth of high-quality mongering in over a very short time period.

Thanks in advance!

It's my 2nd night in a row here on the 3rd floor. It has a very nice vibe with a foreign owner. Red leather couches around 3 stages with the stage at the back with topless ladies and a jacuzzi. If I had to guess, all the ladies would be under 25. ST is 2000 with bar fine 700. I like the ladies because they are all natural. Tonight the vibe is excellent again with the ladies with a lot of energy. Great new bar.

Special mention goes to number 303 with a great natural look. Even makes the tatoos work which I normally don't like. Cute face and very bubbly atitude. Here's a bad pic of the Jacuzzi stage.

I just had one of the most action packed 12 hours spent in Bangkok. My last visit was about 2 years and I was glad to see that things didn't change much. Personally, I still prefer Philippines but Thailand is still the close second.

Here is my recap of the action:

Got to my hotel in Sukhumvit (Holiday Inn) at about 4 PM and activated "Nearby search" of my WeChat. Although most of what shows up are ladyboys (at least they are upfront about that), there seems to be quite a few genuine girls. Within 5 minutes I started getting contact requests and began chatting with the most promising prospects. Although, my plan was first to check out day time action in the bars, I figured why not to start it in my room with one of the WeChat girls.

One seemed very cute, 25 years old and said she can come over within 15 minutes. She offered 1500 for short time which sounded like not a bad deal. After confirming that she is fine with CIM and letting me cum twice, I gave her my room number and headed for a shower. She arrived in exactly 15 minutes which was already quite impressive. Honestly, I didn't expect her to look so good because her WeChat photos looked a bit artificial. However, she was one of the less photogenic ones. In person, she was gorgeous. First of all, she was quite tall, she said she was 168 cm which for me, being a shorter guy, was a huge turn on. I even suspected for a second that she could be a ladyboy but after she was out of the shower and I could get a closer look, my suspicions had quickly evaporated. No plastic surgeon in the world could have possibly created such an amazing pussy, that was definitely god's work!

At that time, I wanted nothing more than to eat that thing. She really enjoyed that part and got very wet real quick. From my years of experience of eating pussy, I must say that my favorite is definitely Thai (so is their food). I almost never came across a smelly or sour tasting ones and this pussy was one of the sweetest I ever had. After doing it for a while, I let her suck me and she turned out to be quite a pro. Finally, I exploded in her mouth and she took it all the way as promised. Then I went to the bathroom to wash off and take a leak and when I came out I found her patiently waiting by the bathroom door still holding my cum in her mouth, waiting for me to finish so she could spit it out. What a sweetheart!

After a bit of rest, we fucked for about 20 min and different positions until I was finally done. She let me grab her real hard, squeeze her tits, pull her hair she seemed to enjoy that quite a bit, so did I. After getting 1,500 she thanked me and left. No complaining, no asking for a tip, real nice experience.

At around 6 PM I headed out for my dinner and decided to walk to Nana. Actually, I wanted to find Annie's massage there but it seems that they have moved, so I couldn't find them. Went to Nana and sat in some Gogo bar for a while, looking at titties for half an hour but decided to head out and see what else is out there. While walking down Nana's street I noticed 2 black girls with amazing asses. So, I asked them where they were from to which they replied "from Africa". No shit, I really didn't think they were Scandinavians anyway. They offered 2000 for short time for each but accepted 1500. I've had Africans before but never 2 together, so since threesomes is something I wanted to do anyway, I agreed.

Next, we went to short term hotel in just a few meters which was another 400 for an hour. Their bodies where excellent (they were 24 years old) but they were not particularly enthusiastic. So, one was just basically lying next to us while I was fucking her friend without much participation. Also, they kept talking to each other in their language which was a bit annoying (they were Ugandan). Still, their asses were something out of this world one of those things that grow only on African girls. After finishing one, I took a bit of rest and tried to make some connection with them. However, my attempts of small talk were met with indifference. Anyway, I was just trying to be nice, I wasn't there to make friends.

After a bit of rest, I was ready for the second round with the second girl which took much longer. Also, she kept complaining about my dick size and didn't want me to go too deep, so did the first one. That was a bit surprising as I don't think of myself as being that big, just maybe slightly bigger than average. I told them come on, I thought they got big dicks in Africa! Finally, they laughed at my joke and we seem to break the ice a bit but by then I was already done. At the end, I asked them whether I could take some photos but they wanted extra 1000 for that. I said no, although I still managed to take one pic when they were already dressed.

So, overall, they didn't get a high score on attitude but that was compensated by the uniqueness of the experience of 3 some with 2 Africans with incredible asses.

After that, I started walking back to my hotel, had a coffee on the way while chatting with another WeChat girl. She said she was 21 and ready to do short time for 1500. Her pics looked nice although face wasn't particular pretty. She also said that she was deaf which I didn't mind. I fact, that would be another something I never tried before, so I decided to go for it. When I finally got back to hotel, I messaged her that she can come over and she arrived within minutes.

I was once again pleasantly surprised by her looks, she was also quite tall for Thai, probably about 165 cm with quite a big body on her. Her ass was nice and perky, beautiful legs and silky smooth skin. She was indeed deaf, so we communicated with gestures and continued chatting on WeChat with each other. She was really sweet girl and the fact that she was deaf didn't really bother me at all. In fact, I even enjoyed quietness for a change. So, she started with a blowjob and worked on my cock for at least 20 minutes until I finally came on her face. By that time after having come 4 times already, I could only squeeze a few drops of cum, so she didn't even realize that I was done.

Then we "chatted" for a while via WeChat and took some pictures with my phone she was really into it. Playing with her got me horny again and I started to fuck her while she was still snapping photos. We changed positions a few times and I finally finished up in doggy while spanking her beautiful ass.

We relaxed for a while and then she left texting me later that she had a really good time. So, at about 2 am, I finally was ready for bed as I still had to catch to my flight the next morning.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1974077]It's my 2nd night in a row here on the 3rd floor. It has a very nice vibe with a foreign owner. Red leather couches around 3 stages with the stage at the back with topless ladies and a jacuzzi. If I had to guess, all the ladies would be under 25. ST is 2000 with bar fine 700. I like the ladies because they are all natural. Tonight the vibe is excellent again with the ladies with a lot of energy. Great new bar.[/QUOTE]Interesting, you may not be so picky as me since I struggled to find many really pretty girls in 3 visits total.

A lot of what you say maybe close to correct if you refer to the jacuzzi girls only. I am surprised if they all go for 2K though so maybe I would take one. I do recall one with really nice tits and face quite reasonable.

Looking now at the whole bar:
Certainly some girls were spolied by nose jobs. I do struggle to remember if too many tit jobs but with Coyotes wearing a very hard bra under bikini top it is hard to tell.

Some young girls in bath had quite good tits topless.

I would be very surprised if Ni I spoke with was under 25. I think all under 25 is definitely an optimists outlook. Anyway actual age doesn't matter to be. Condition of the body matters. Body can be stuffed at age 22 easily enough or super at 30. I did not see any really ancient girls there.

I actually usually don't care much about all the girls at any place. The top 6 girls usually dominate my interest.

One coyote was somewhat pretty for me but she had a nose job and appeared to have silicones as well. So all girls natural is virtually impossible at any bar these days. Perhaps you mean the bar is not overrun with surgeries.

No bar I know of has a policy to keep out surgeries girls completely. Most bars encourage the surgeries which is sad for me.

Personally I prefer the line up of girls at Billboard and Twisters but maybe fewer girls who will go for 2000. I recall now one gogo girl with quite saggy tits and another with silicones. Neither particularly sexy for me as some of the Coyotes definitely had superior bodies.

Business at Jail Birdz is not exactly raging so I guess they have to take 2000 often. I was told the name is in process of being changed to Butterflies. I would be surprised if all the Coyote girls go for 2000, the gogo girls probably yes as tend to have bodies not so perfect.

It is very clear that mongering in Bangkok is not quite as affordable as it was back in 1991.

I stayed 5 weeks in 1991 and slept alone very rarely, with young girls with good bodies. Looking at my old photos, not every girl was as pretty as I would demand in the modern day, I was so easily taken in by a young sexy smile and hot body, compared to what I used to in the home country.

Bar girls were way cheaper than MP girls. I took girls for the night from Cowboy for 500 Baht to the girl and even 400 in one case. The 400 Baht girl did not want to leave and would have happily stayed with me 24 hours per day for several days. Hence the expression we pay the girl to leave. Was very true in the old days. Her face was a bit ordinary but a good body, and fucked bareback, she probably did not possess any condoms. Probably had a baby already, and father gone, I forget.

Total bill in a bar for drinks, BF, and the girl LT was not that much money.

Cowboy girls were not nude but topless. Only Phat Phong had nude dancing girls at all. Visited Phat Phong in daytime for BJ in public at the Kangaroo bar or Annies Rose. The girls there were really wayward or raunchy types. It was nothing unusual to go into a Phat Phong bar, and for a girl to come sit with you and straight away put you hand down her panties to get fingers straight inside her pussy. It was a way of hooking customers before you noticed she was only average on the prettiness scale. LOL.

My main MP was Thermae Soapy which had several pretty girls, and I did overnight with one of those girls plenty of times, but had to contend with plenty of other guys wanting to do the same. Thermae girl fucked me BB also, because she claimed my dick did not stay up really hard for a good long fuck with a condom on, or would even start drooping a little just while putting a condom on. LOL Had no Vitamin V in those days to turn us into pornstar endurance guys. I also used Chawala a little experiencing combination of proper massage with a pretty girl but with molesting the girl included and either HJ or BJ, I forget know.

I also used the Thermae Coffee shop late at night, and took same girl from there several nights running, she was so passionate on the bed, and had amazing tits. Maybe she was not bareback. I forget. There was almost no surgeries around in those days. Everything natural. Thermae was at its best at 1 am or 2 AM in those days after lots of other places were closing. Grace Hotel was also like Thermae Coffee shop but a bit inferior for me, older and less slim girls.

I had some real Thai massages but did not really enjoy them much (too powerful and not used it), and did not really try the naughty Oilies much.

There was little reason not to have a girl for LT every single night (almost) for several weeks. I did not even know if ST existed other than at MPs.

I don't believe Nana Plaza hard hardly got going in that year. I was not aware of it.

So what about the modern day? Girls are fatter at a younger age, there are far more surgeries, for me wrecking the looks, price of LT has gone up a lot, so that would not automatically take a LT every night any more, if at all. MP girls have become more affordable than bargirls, when previously was very much the reverse. Number of girls smoking may have actually declined. Use of condoms increased, even though new HIV case incidence per year was far greater in 1991 than it is now. Other STDs, I don't know the historical growth or decline. People became a little more informed about STDs in general, including cancers following certain genital warts for girls. People became less scared of Herpes which retains a high prevalence, after all most people have had a cold sore (whether HSV type 1 or 2) at some time, even if they did not know it.

Girls trying to look western or like fake dolls as in Baccara have become prevalent, where I don't recall any of that in 1991.

I think I posted these pics before. First two are girls from Thermae Coffee shop in approx. 1991. They both come from Phitsanulok so not officially Isaan girls, however one does not detect a great difference from Isaan looks. I thought both were quite pretty at the time, perhaps today, I would find them a bit more ordinary, still well above average looks, and all natural. Girl in white top had wide expansive no droop C cups, presumably no baby. Yes I would still do her in the modern day remembering how beautifully she DFKed all night (non smoker) and her magnificent tits. Hotel phone handset looks ancient and was of course. Girl could not speak English, other than a few words, and my Thai was very basic so understanding her babble was a serious challenge.

Nude gothic girl is I think from Nana Plaza in a subsequent year when I first went to Lollipop and Pretty Lady bars, showing natural good sized tits which could be found more easily in those days. I find her face a bit ugly now but did not worry about that over 20 years ago. She was not at all shy to pose for porno type stuff, not just naked.

I can't help wondering how much it cost to have young girls for 24 hours at Patong beech, Phuket, when I was there in 1983, unfortunately I was stuck with a Farang wife with me. Probably would have been way under 500 Baht. I recall meeting some goofy type guy that mentioned hiring girls for multiple days at that time but don't know the price.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1974296]Interesting, you may not be so picky as me since I struggled to find many really pretty girls in 3 visits total.

A lot of what you say maybe close to correct if you refer to the jacuzzi girls only. I am surprised if they all go for 2K though so maybe I would take one. I do recall one with really nice tits and face quite reasonable.

Looking now at the whole bar:
Certainly some girls were spolied by nose jobs. I do struggle to remember if too many tit jobs but with Coyotes wearing a very hard bra under bikini top it is hard to tell.

Some young girls in bath had quite good tits topless.

I would be very surprised if Ni I spoke with was under 25. I think all under 25 is definitely an optimists outlook. Anyway actual age doesn't matter to be. Condition of the body matters. Body can be stuffed at age 22 easily enough or super at 30. I did not see any really ancient girls there.

I actually usually don't care much about all the girls at any place. The top 6 girls usually dominate my interest.

One coyote was somewhat pretty for me but she had a nose job and appeared to have silicones as well. So all girls natural is virtually impossible at any bar these days. Perhaps you mean the bar is not overrun with surgeries.

No bar I know of has a policy to keep out surgeries girls completely. Most bars encourage the surgeries which is sad for me.

Personally I prefer the line up of girls at Billboard and Twisters but maybe fewer girls who will go for 2000. I recall now one gogo girl with quite saggy tits and another with silicones. Neither particularly sexy for me as some of the Coyotes definitely had superior bodies.

Business at Jail Birdz is not exactly raging so I guess they have to take 2000 often. I was told the name is in process of being changed to Butterflies. I would be surprised if all the Coyote girls go for 2000, the gogo girls probably yes as tend to have bodies not so perfect.[/QUOTE]Here's he group of ladies I partied with. I barfined the one second from the left in the picture with the 6 ladies. The blond on the right was not included in my club partying. They were crazy by giving me naked dances in the club, flashing me their pussies on stage and everything. Back in the room in was a porn star experience with her pulling me out of her pussy for a BBBJ and then putting me back inside her again multiple times.
Great time! All no baby damage and not silicones.

[QUOTE=Specter69;1973986]
I will be landing around 11:30 pm on a Saturday, staying at the JW Marriott. Figure I can probably get to the hotel, checked in, etc. By 1 am? Is that too optimistic?
[/QUOTE]If your plane is on time, then 1 am is realistic. I am not super expert on late night girl shopping but I have taken bar girls at 2 AM on occasion. So some bars will still be open to maybe 3 am, some may close earlier.

Most massage places close at 12 but not all. Personally, I don't really like take out from MPs, as girl can be overly tired if had a hard day at the MP and a lot of business. If she is not very good, then she might be fresher. I prefer to do take out only with girls I know well. There some very late night MPs, I have not used them.

You are close to Nana Plaza so that is a possibility for bars. There will also be street walkers till quite late, who are cheaper.

Thermae is an option but maybe closed by 2 AM. Others who know Thermae well can correct me on this time. I believe I got a Thermae girl close to 1. 30 AM recently but was starting to thin out a bit.

Guys have written many times about discos to pick up girls. I don't know the closing times for these but know that they vary a lot.

If was me I would probably get a girl from a Soi Cowboy bar, but that is me and I am likely to know the target girls already. I have plenty of Contacts on my line App to prearrange favorite girls as well.

Cart bars open very late used to be a good option, but I don't know if they really exist to any extent any more, or where they are located now.

There is always some way to get girls, and 1 AM is not a serious problem. Bars like Morning Night on Sukhumvit Soi 4 may well open by 9 AM if you look for another girl in the morning, or some massage places open at 10 AM.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1974397]Here's he group of ladies I partied with. I barfined the one second from the left in the picture with the 6 ladies. The blond on the right was not included in my club partying. They were crazy by giving me naked dances in the club, flashing me their pussies on stage and everything. Back in the room in was a porn star experience with her pulling me out of her pussy for a BBBJ and then putting me back inside her again multiple times.
Great time! All no baby damage and not silicones.[/QUOTE]LOL Your taste is a little different to mine, not a worry, but the Jacuzzi girls are the better girls in this bar.

I did see the odd Jacuzzi girl flash the pussy too, however not for me, as I was acting like the boring aloof customer at the time, till a girl that knew me approached. I always act very anti social till I work out which girls I like, to avoid too many girls approaching LOL. I can transform to more fun though, when I have got the right girl(s). Like Jekyll and Hide.

You can see that some girls in the pics, have nose jobs, most likely. The redhead on the right end looks pretty and has a clear nose job but its not too bad. Okay no silicone tits for the Jacuzzi girls. Your choice had a nose job, right? I am not 100% sure but seems so in the pic. I believe that the Jacuzzi girl that appealed to me maybe the 2nd from the right, if she had really great tits, yet the bridge of her nose looks suspiciously high?

Girls with very small noses is usually an indicator of no nose surgery, but pointy or high bridges is usually and indicator of surgery. Surgeries noses almost always look a bit odd to me, having Thailand experiences going back to times when surgeries were not so common.

I can see that when you say no surgeries, you are thinking of the tits, where I think of both nose and tits.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1974410]

You can see that some girls in the pics, have nose jobs, right? Okay No silicone tits for the Jacuzzi girls. Your choice had a nose job. I would have picked a different girl, but its great that not all guys like the same thing.[/QUOTE]Why do you keep banging on and on about your preference for girls who have not had nose jobs Syz?

I haven't got anywhere as much free time as you to spend on this forum but a quick check of your last 10 posts revealed you mentioned how you dislike nose jobs in 8 of them. Boob jobs is a close second.

We get the message Syz. You don't like surgical enhancements. Leave it alone please. Your rejects are other guys' delights, and that's as it should be.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1974411]Why do you keep banging on and on about your preference for girls who have not had nose jobs Syz?
[/QUOTE]Yes okay My bad habit. I will try to adjust, somewhat. It is a fixation and major factor for me, but not so much for others.

Maybe I will try to talk "all natural" moreso, when trying to indicate why girls don't appeal.
Some guys can't do dark skin, or black girls. I largely avoid surgeries girls, in two categories. Sorry for that. I like girls that look slightly like French girls but with Asian eyes of course.

I also like girls with exotic looks like pornstar Annisa Kate for example with big lips and wobbly tits.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1974413]Yes okay My bad habit. I will try to adjust, somewhat. It is a fixation and major factor for me, but not so much for others.

[/QUOTE]I don't have any problem at all about your preferences Syz. That's absolutely your prerogative.

I just don't want to read about your personal preferences in almost all posts. It's been very well documented LOL.

You are very experienced, have a heap of information to share and you are a renowned source of data, just as long as you stick to describing your successes instead of detailing why you reject 90% of the girls you see or meet.

Happy Holidays.

Those who don't like Crazy House need not read.

I was surprised at how few girls at CH that I was well acquainted with recently:
Some known girls seen:
Bo. Big tits.
Praow (ex Doll House).
No. 3 Off / Aor?
No. 4 Jane.
Mo. 93 Jun.
No. 28 Boom.
Uui (skinny).
Known but never BFed:
Kratae (looks like Rihanna).
Taeng Mo (used to wear secretary glasses for fun).

Can only list 9 girls ever BFed or at least had conversations with, and not all of those present on same day.
That means in a line up for 40 girls, I might know only 3 or 4, somewhat.
Huge change in just a few months. Only Jane and Jun still on my repeatable list, and those were only girls I sessioned.

Girls not seen:
No. 1 Nikki.
No. 49 May-Lee (gone nearly a year).
No. 21 Donut.
No. 40 Ging Gaew.
No. 54 Naam.
No. 78 Noi.
No. 91 Oom.
May.
Naen x 2.
Taeng Mo (trainee nurse).
Mon.
Mai.
Chocolat.
Two girls at least, left to have a baby. Others may now have a sponsor or BF looking after them. Even my waitress disappeared, perhaps customers were getting her too drunk on tequilas, although she could have chosen to drink something else.
There are quite a few more girls recognised but never acquainted with, however feels like line up had biggest changes ever in last few months.

Very few girls from the first year are left now. Seems like they accept any standard of girl these days where originally there was a certain standard of good looks.

CH was scheduled to expand into Old Dutch Restaurant some time when lease expires, but I am not sure business is currently that good to warrant it.
More pretty girls are needed.

Similarly the number of girls I knew at Suzie Wong has dropped off also, although perhaps not quite as a big of a change. Doll House had radical change, after ex owner took the big plunge off the balcony, and only about 2 girls remained that I knew. Mercury in Nana has only 1 girl left that I know slightly. Only saw one waitress known at Twisters and did not see any known girls Billboard.

So I am feeling many bars have experienced significant turn over of girls. Not sure the exact reason, or if month of mourning made a difference, or Government crackdowns. Is it all part of a general decline in standards and fun. I probably had the most fun with a short visit to Toy Bar at midnight or so, with just two girls that appealed to me. The music in there was great and really good for girls to dance to. All natural girls, I think. LOL

Cart bars on Sukhumvit and Asoke disappeared. So that is massive change.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1974443]just as long as you stick to describing your successes instead of detailing why you reject 90% of the girls you see or meet.
[/QUOTE]I agree that positive experiences are far more useful than negative stuff. However If I did not like a place, I felt obliged to indicate my personal bias, so that others could make allowance for it. It is known that Baccara is the best bar in cowboy with gorgeous girls, right? However not my taste at all.

So I include caveats in my assessment. LOL.