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10,000 baht is nothing for a hot Thai girl. 2 nights for a Japanese bar gogo girl. Sex may or may not be required.
Even if you're average looking you can work at a LK Metro gogo bar and earn 10,000 baht in a 10 day shift. Only criteria is to sell 50 drinks depending on the bars quota and show up to work on time. No sex involved.
[QUOTE=Jerseyitalian;2103420]Hi Horse Trader,
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I just got in at 5 am this is my first morning here as well. What part of town are you in? I'm near Central Pattaya Rd.[/QUOTE]I'm gone. Wouldn't answer detailed location questions in forum anyway. Use PM for that type of question.
The beach side of the Beach Rd sidewalk is currently completely devoid of freelancers. However, several diehards have congregated in small groups on the land side of Beach Rd, but numbers are considerably down, maybe only 20% or less of the usual numbers. I spoke to one girl and she it was because of the Police, and that it would continue like this until the 23rd Nov. Sure fucks their business model. Other areas still going strong, including Soi 6 which I just walked through tonight.
[QUOTE=Franga;2103708]The beach side of the Beach Rd sidewalk is currently completely devoid of freelancers. However, several diehards have congregated in small groups on the land side of Beach Rd, but numbers are considerably down, maybe only 20% or less of the usual numbers. I spoke to one girl and she it was because of the Police, and that it would continue like this until the 23rd Nov. Sure fucks their business model. Other areas still going strong, including Soi 6 which I just walked through tonight.[/QUOTE]Seems like a pretty random date unless they are timing it for American Thanksgiving. Any other reason?
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103027]Just arrived in Pattaya and was disappointed in the selection on the beach side of Beach Road. Almost zero options, I had expected to find many. Meanwhile, I was expecting nothing on the land side of Beach Road, but there were quite a few choices, many hanging around the motor scooter parking areas. Perhaps the police closed the beach side to freelancers but opened the land side.[/QUOTE]
It's been that way for a year or two - after about 01:00 AM on normal days the police force them to leave the beach or be arrested. On some days it might be much earlier. Unsurprisingly, between this interference at their prime moneymaking time, and occasional shakedowns by the police for money (the "fine" is reputedly 1,000 baht now, instead of the 300-500 it used to be), this means there are fewer girls available, and particularly far fewer attractive ones.
Was in Pattaya from Monday noon until Wednesday noon. Was disappointed in Beach Road, per my prior report. Walking Street was OK, but not my style. Did a Tuesday afternoon viewing of 3 soapies, nothing great available so I settled on a 2500 baht girl at Rasputin. At that moment there were only 2000 and 2500 baht girls available. Services were decent but it didn't compare with the 6,000 to 11,000 baht services at Lords in Bangkok. Facilities also not as good. After my session there were about 15 new girls available, about 6 looked very good and were sitting far to the left, which may mean a high price. When exiting Rasputin papasan was chewing out a customer who apparently complained about services from one of the girls.
The highlight of my stay was an evening on Soi 6. Absolutely loved that area. It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103763]It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.[/QUOTE]LOL. You got too much Tijuana in your blood man!
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103763]Was in Pattaya from Monday noon until Wednesday noon. Was disappointed in Beach Road, per my prior report. Walking Street was OK, but not my style. Did a Tuesday afternoon viewing of 3 soapies, nothing great available so I settled on a 2500 baht girl at Rasputin. At that moment there were only 2000 and 2500 baht girls available. Services were decent but it didn't compare with the 6,000 to 11,000 baht services at Lords in Bangkok. Facilities also not as good. After my session there were about 15 new girls available, about 6 looked very good and were sitting far to the left, which may mean a high price. When exiting Rasputin papasan was chewing out a customer who apparently complained about services from one of the girls.
The highlight of my stay was an evening on Soi 6. Absolutely loved that area. It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.[/QUOTE]To Horse Trader.
If you want the Russian girl or model you need to go after 7 pm and on weekend, I saw some tall hot E European girl there a few month ago start at 4500 bht and up.
Fast Eddie 48.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103027]So far my biggest first impression of Pattaya is the huge number of single senior farang men visiting Pattaya. Without ED medications a very large portion of the P4 P industry customer base would be absent.[/QUOTE]
This is definitely the case in the outdoor beer bars. I assume they feel more comfortable with the older women who work in these beer bars. Maybe in 20 or 30 years I will join them.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103763]Was in Pattaya from Monday noon until Wednesday noon. Was disappointed in Beach Road, per my prior report. Walking Street was OK, but not my style. Did a Tuesday afternoon viewing of 3 soapies, nothing great available so I settled on a 2500 baht girl at Rasputin. At that moment there were only 2000 and 2500 baht girls available. Services were decent but it didn't compare with the 6,000 to 11,000 baht services at Lords in Bangkok. Facilities also not as good. After my session there were about 15 new girls available, about 6 looked very good and were sitting far to the left, which may mean a high price. When exiting Rasputin papasan was chewing out a customer who apparently complained about services from one of the girls.
The highlight of my stay was an evening on Soi 6. Absolutely loved that area. It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.[/QUOTE]Soapies' lineups aren't good in the afternoon. Girls start coming after 5 pm with prime time being 5 to 9 pm. Don't expect anything more than a mechanical session in a Pattaya soapie. You're better off going to one of the non-FS massage shops and getting FS from one of the cute girls. Soi 6 and the Gentleman clubs are where you should be spending time in the afternoons. As you likely saw for yourself if you walked into the gogo bars I have recommended on this thread, that is the best talent Pattaya has to offer other than some of the Thai bars guys on ISG do not visit. My understanding from another ISG member who walked along Beach Road the other night is that the freelancers numbers are very small compared to even before Loy Krathong. He asked me if there was another raid, which happens almost weekly here.
Bait and switch in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2103764]LOL. You got too much Tijuana in your blood man![/QUOTE]Yes. Although I like Thailand much better than Tijuana, I will continue to go to Tijuana. It is 6 hours flying to Tijuana and 24 hours to Thailand. The flight and post-flight recovery is rough on an old man like me.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2103796]Bait and switch in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]The only bait and switch I mean is the good looking girls on the street bringing you inside the bar. Then she goes back outside to bring in more customers while you are left inside with a bunch of less attractive girls. Same as at Soi Cowboy or Nana. In Bangkok I had some success with the outside eye candy, no such luck on Walking Street.
I haven't read any reviews on this so I will give one. On nakula road from the dolphin fountain roundabout for about 1 mile, there are several beer bars. The going rate for the girls is 300 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for short time. There are a mixture of women from young to middle age, or 20 to 40's. I suspect my ideas of attractive are different then many here. The 20 year old spinner is kind of young for me. So that being said, I find many of the women attractive enough. The bars all face the road, so there are girls to pull you into the bars. They are more willing to play games like connect four or the dice game if you want a little something to do while you drink. I guess you could grope a little bit, but not really as the bars face a major street and you are out in the open.
The women were not as pushy to be barfined as those at soi 6. Though, a few want to bet on the outcomes of a game, you lose you barfine them. I think these bars are suited for guys like me, mid 50's or older who want a slower pace and think attractive enough is attractive enough. An average looking 30 year old who isn't fat works for me if she has the right personality. Not that there aren't a few younger good lookers. It's just not the prime place to look for those in pattaya.
Tldr, nakula Road is a good place for guys who want a slower pace and aren't super picky on age or looks. The price is decent. The women are freindly.
All my opinion for what it's worth.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2104213]The only bait and switch I mean is the good looking girls on the street bringing you inside the bar. Then she goes back outside to bring in more customers while you are left inside with a bunch of less attractive girls. Same as at Soi Cowboy or Nana. In Bangkok I had some success with the outside eye candy, no such luck on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]You can barfine the girls outside. At most clubs they are only gogo girls hanging around outside since it's slow inside or they want to smoke. At Sapphire they go outside if they do not want to go on stage. Very few are straight coyote girls. The hottest coyote is one at Palace and she is a pure coyote by definition. The rest of the girls outside Palace are regular gogo girls. I hang out with one coyote at Tantra. She gets barfined almost nightly.
In most cases, the girls outside are not nearly as pretty as some of the girls inside. Which clubs were you unlucky with coyotes on Walking Street?
[QUOTE=Horatio;2104260]I haven't read any reviews on this so I will give one. On nakula road from the dolphin fountain roundabout for about 1 mile, there are several beer bars. The going rate for the girls is 300 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for short time. There are a mixture of women from young to middle age, or 20 to 40's. [/QUOTE]
I have hit the Naklua bars many times but not so much recently. My girl in a Naklua Thai bar no longer works there so I no longer venture to Naklua. I have found the odd young gem there but they are few and far between. They are friendly and drinks are cheap but outdoor beer bars are not my thing.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104295]You can barfine the girls outside. At most clubs they are only gogo girls hanging around outside since it's slow inside or they want to smoke. At Sapphire they go outside if they do not want to go on stage. Very few are straight coyote girls. The hottest coyote is one at Palace and she is a pure coyote by definition. The rest of the girls outside Palace are regular gogo girls. I hang out with one coyote at Tantra. She gets barfined almost nightly..[/QUOTE]My understanding after speaking with Jerry (co-owner of Sapphire) and one of the girls is that they have a very structured rotation. This is actually what makes Sapphire one of the great clubs- because it is so damn organized and professionally run.
1) You'll notice that all the Sapphire girls wear wristwatches. This is so they can keep track of their 20 minute shifts (3 rotations per hour).
2) They divide the girls between White Top / White Bottom, Black Top / Black Bottom, Black Top / Black Bottom but more lingerie style. These 'teams' are basically tallish thin girls, very petite girls, and curvier (but not fat) girls respectively.
3) At any given point in time, you have one of the teams either (A) on stage dancing, (B) outside marketing the club, or (C) resting in the back. Any others are sitting with customers.
4) In the middle back of the bar, there is a board with neon marker written numbers. It's this long list of numbers in several columns that you'll see the girls / mamasan constantly visiting. They write in their number whenever they check in on stage, denote their number when they are outside, or erase their name when they have been barfined.
I happened to be seated next to the board for two hours the first time I visited Sapphire and was absolutely amazed by the organization of it all compared to other Bangkok / Pattaya clubs where chaos reigns. If you guys have a minute, pry your eyes away from the beauties on stage and watch the magic behind how the sausage is made.
Infinity gogo opened a 2nd club between Infinity and Lucifer. It's called Bad Girls Club. I didn't go in tonight. Maybe tomorrow.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104390]Infinity gogo opened a 2nd club between Infinity and Lucifer. It's called Bad Girls Club. I didn't go in tonight. Maybe tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Panhead here.
Good to see you living it up in pattaya. I will be back in Pattaya for the end of Nov. Will PM you, I owe you a beer for your walking directions to Diezenbach.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104295]
In most cases, the girls outside are not nearly as pretty as some of the girls inside. Which clubs were you unlucky with coyotes on Walking Street?
[/QUOTE]I was in several Walking Street clubs. I don't remember which clubs had pretty girls escort me in and then left me with less attractive girls. All the clubs are new to me, this was my first 2 days in Pattaya and there are so many places on Walking street. I didn't notice the club names.
This was this past Monday night. I did some of my tour early and few options were available, about 8 and 9 PM. I did some of my tour very late, about 12:30 to 1:30 AM. I suspect that prime time was between my visits.
I'm actually not sure of the definition of a coyote girl. I'm assuming those are the girls who don't dance and supposedly won't bar fine. They just sit and chat over lady drinks, and collect tips. On multiple occasions in Bangkok I've bar fined door girls who do not dance, so I guess those girls would not be coyote girls.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2104260]Nakula Road is a good place for guys who want a slower pace and aren't super picky on age or looks. The price is decent. The women are friendly.[/QUOTE]Yes, had some memorable times at Pitbull and TJs. Many decent places to stay closeby. Live music can get noisy till late unless you take the back rooms, away from the street.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2104451]I was in several Walking Street clubs. I don't remember which clubs had pretty girls escort me in and then left me with less attractive girls. All the clubs are new to me, this was my first 2 days in Pattaya and there are so many places on Walking street. I didn't notice the club names.
This was this past Monday night. I did some of my tour early and few options were available, about 8 and 9 PM. I did some of my tour very late, about 12:30 to 1:30 AM. I suspect that prime time was between my visits.
I'm actually not sure of the definition of a coyote girl. I'm assuming those are the girls who don't dance and supposedly won't bar fine. They just sit and chat over lady drinks, and collect tips. On multiple occasions in Bangkok I've bar fined door girls who do not dance, so I guess those girls would not be coyote girls.[/QUOTE]From my own experience you need to make sure if the girl that is outside who attracts you and the one you want to buy a drink etc. That she is available and to insure it have a conversation before you go in. Personally I don't feel this is a intentional bait and switch. You have clubs like Skyfall, Taboo, Palace, the girls outside also dance inside one of their rotation position is outside attracting customers to go inside.
When it comes to Coyote or Agency girls even for me hard to tell, it is a crab shoot unless you ask. Just like outside and if you aren't into buying LD, before they sit down you got to ask.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2104451]I was in several Walking Street clubs. I don't remember which clubs had pretty girls escort me in and then left me with less attractive girls. [/QUOTE]If she's the girl you want you offer to buy her a drink and she will stay with you. There are some bad gogo bars on Walking Street, not unlike Cowboy and Nana. Next time hit Sensations first for eye candy and the most girls. If they aren't your style, go for the more natural Thai look at a club like Sapphire or What's Up. If you like the younger cute look, hit Nui 2 aka Runway, beside Sensations. Different clubs suit different taste in women.
I tend not to go often into all the gogo bars at the beginning of Walking Street like Bliss, Taboo, Mandarin, Lighthouse, etc. If any of these have hot girls, someone please let me know. I was in Skyfall last night. Lots of girls but nothing caught my eye.
I think I will make tonight a 'gogo bars I don't usually go to night'. Will go to some on the side sois like Angelwitch, Star, Center, etc.
[QUOTE=Panhead;2104398]I will be back in Pattaya for the end of Nov. Will PM you, I owe you a beer for your walking directions to Diezenbach.[/QUOTE]You sure you have the right person? I have only been to Dietzenbach twice and definitely don't know how to walk there from a bahn or hotel. I only know how to walk there from my car to the entrance.
Although I haven't made my round to Lighthouse for close to a year in the past, I've found it to be pretty good of course nothing stays the same can't remember now it they had skin? It is part of the Mandarin group. Give the D Club, which is at the foot of Soi Diamond and W. S. The entrance lead upstairs now if you see the girls outside waving you in and you like one of them and want to buy her a drink ask. A few months back I was walking to another club one caught my attention and ask me to check it out, have already twice but cross off my regular list due to no skin, I ask her she go too she said no so I just continue on.
The Star, is a very small place, they got a few girls that passes the test for me. The only reason I visited the place was because two girls I use to see left Spanky's when it close and started to work there. Then it was pure Agency girls on 10 day contract. You normally can see a few of their girls sitting outside on a table eating or on break that is a indication how small inside. Big negative is one of the mamasan very pushy when I wanted bill, after the change came back she push for a big tip and she wasn't kidding and hadn't done anything prior to it. Even the girl I went to visit and put out some baht for drinks for her and majority of the girls in the place since I was like one of three customer were upset. Thereafter, the girl would meet me as a freelancer. There is no skin, BF I believe is 1500 before midnight?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2104585] Big negative is one of the mamasan very pushy when I wanted bill, after the change came back she push for a big tip and she wasn't kidding and hadn't done anything prior to it.[/QUOTE]Oh I'm going for sure now! I like things like this so I can write about them. Wonder if it's worst than Crazy House in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2104585]You normally can see a few of their girls sitting outside on a table eating or on break that is a indication how small inside. [/QUOTE]Yes I saw one last night and she called me over to talk to her. She is why I will likely go there tonight.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2104585] Give the D Club, [/QUOTE]If I remember I will.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2104585]if you see the girls outside waving you in and you like one of them and want to buy her a drink ask. [/QUOTE]Not implying that you in particular do this but I want to point out again to guys not as experienced not to disregard a gogo bar if you don't see hot girls outside. This isn't Bangkok where they hire coyotes to pull guys in. The hot girls are inside the bar already getting drinks galore from the Japanese.
Also want to point out that going to a gogo bar after midnight on a Friday or Saturday night is usually not the best time. On many nights, most hot girls are already barfined well before that. With 2 tiered barfines, there is a mass exodus at some bars right after midnight.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104590]
Also want to point out that going to a gogo bar after midnight on a Friday or Saturday night is usually not the best time. On many nights, most hot girls are already barfined well before that. With 2 tiered barfines, there is a mass exodus at some bars right after midnight.[/QUOTE]Two-tiered BFs sounds just like "Coyotes" but calling it something different.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2104594]Two-tiered BFs sounds just like "Coyotes" but calling it something different.[/QUOTE]Tiers are time based, not girl based. Midnight is usually the witching hour.
Freelancers live update from beach road at 8 pm. Total count. ZERO.
Barfine at Sensations Go-Go is 1500 Baht. Ouch!
Before I went inside at 9 PM on Saturday night, I observed 2 sets of Indians get rejected. Doorman didn't even ask for a cover charge. It seems this place doesn't let in Indians. Or is it just due to Saturday in high season?
It was totally packed. Mostly East Asians. The bad thing is that a higher percentage of East Asians smoke. I was surrounded by cigarette smokers.
Average talent is above average. No nudity. Outfits aren't revealing. No drink specials. I don't like this place.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104511]You sure you have the right person? I have only been to Dietzenbach twice and definitely don't know how to walk there from a bahn or hotel. I only know how to walk there from my car to the entrance.[/QUOTE]I just scrolled back on the Germany FKK page to 2012 I owe TheAfricanBoy the beer for the direction to Diezenbach. I am sure I have used info you provided many time So the offer stands.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2104705]Barfine at Sensations Go-Go is 1500 Baht. Ouch![/QUOTE]1000 after midnight.
If you see a girl you want to barfine at 10 pm you're much better off paying the regular barfine rate than buying a Sensations girl drinks for 2 hours trying to save 500 on barfine.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104634]Freelancers live update from beach road at 8 pm. Total count. ZERO.[/QUOTE]Report on youtube saying that the police are shooing them off for the month of November maybe longer.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104765]1000 after midnight.
If you see a girl you want to barfine at 10 pm you're much better off paying the regular barfine rate than buying a Sensations girl drinks for 2 hours trying to save 500 on barfine.[/QUOTE]Or just go to Soi 6 where the price is 1300 Baht total (300 barfine plus 1000 tip).
Although many of the girls are marginal to ugly, there definitely were some cuties there. Those cuties would not have been out of place at Sensations.
At Sensations, in addition to the barfine, you need to pay the mandatory tip. Mamasan had a small notebook with the prices listed. I couldn't read it since it was kind of dark. I think it was 3000 or 3500. That's above my budget. Angeles, here I come.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2104794]At Sensations, in addition to the barfine, you need to pay the mandatory tip. [/QUOTE]Never paid a tip to a mamasan in any gogo bar in Pattaya. There is simply no need to do this.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2104770]Report on youtube saying that the police are shooing them off for the month of November maybe longer.[/QUOTE]
I'm predicting all of high season. 2 nights in a row now I have been on the baht bus coming home from Walking Street. 2 pairs of different girls hop on to a bus load of men. On both occasions, the girls flirted with the men and were picked up. I've had this happen to me on occasion in the past. Maybe this was just by coincidence I saw this on 2 consecutive baht bus rides home or maybe it's the new way freelancers are plying their trade.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104810]Never paid a tip to a mamasan in any gogo bar in Pattaya. There is simply no need to do this.[/QUOTE]He is talking about how in Pattaya one has to pay a barfine then give separate money to the girl, whereas in Angeles City everything is included in the barfine and there is no need to give anything to the girl. She receives her part of the money later from the bar. As he alluded to, AC is way cheaper than Pattaya if you are going to play the gogo bar side of the game. I think the most you will have to come off for a gogo chick in AC is 3500 pesos (2260 baht). And that is for LT. There really is no ST option in AC. It is just the one cost for how long you want to keep her up to the rest of the day/night.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2104816]There really is no ST option in AC. It is just the one cost for how long you want to keep her up to the rest of the day/night.[/QUOTE]True, except that in recent years a lot of the girls have decided that they'd rather duck out early, and have come up with dozens of ways to do it. You can insist that they stay the night but they'll make sure it's not going to be much fun for either of you.
My attitude at this point is that if they want to go, I just let them. But if you're both having a good time and they want to stay, that's just a nice bonus. The only problem then is getting rid of them the next day.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104810]2 nights in a row now I have been on the baht bus coming home from Walking Street. 2 pairs of different girls hop on to a bus load of men. On both occasions, the girls flirted with the men and were picked up. I've had this happen to me on occasion in the past. Maybe this was just by coincidence I saw this on 2 consecutive baht bus rides home or maybe it's the new way freelancers are plying their trade.[/QUOTE]LOL good this sounds better at least you can talk to them and size them up a bit more. I've never seen this. Keep us posted.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104634]Freelancers live update from beach road at 8 pm. Total count. ZERO.[/QUOTE]
That's disturbing. Does anybody know a reason for this? Is there a big police crackdown going on?
Some people say it's for "the month of November", but why, what sense does it make (it's not a holiday). Is it an attempt at a permanent crackdown? I wonder why there's no more info about this.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2104770]Report on youtube saying that the police are shooing them off for the month of November maybe longer.[/QUOTE]I just checked with another Beach Rd freelancer tonight (she was sitting outside Central Festival on the land side of Beach Rd) and she said exactly the same as what another girl said to me a week ago: that the beach Road freelancer scene would be back in operation on the 23rd Nov. She said something about boats around the Bali Hai pier near walking street on the 20th Nov: hard to understand her due to her poor English.
So I checked on the internet about this and there is some sort of Thai Navy hosted event (an International Fleet Review to mark Asean's 50th anniversary since its founding) in Pattaya from the 13 to 22nd Nov 2017, so the Beach Rd FL scene closure is probably related to that.
BTW, I took this FL chick ST. I offered 500 baht and she accepted immediately. Excellent fuck too, even if a bit older and a bit chunkier, but pretty face. As I was about to finish in flatdog I thought I would try my luck and asked her if I could bang her up the ass. To which she said I was "too big" and that I needed to "find a ladyboy"!
[QUOTE=Franga;2105072]I just checked with another Beach Rd freelancer tonight (she was sitting outside Central Festival on the land side of Beach Rd) and she said exactly the same as what another girl said to me a week ago: that the beach Road freelancer scene would be back in operation on the 23rd Nov. She said something about boats around the Bali Hai pier near walking street on the 20th Nov: hard to understand her due to her poor English.
So I checked on the internet about this and there is some sort of Thai Navy hosted event (an International Fleet Review to mark Asean's 50th anniversary since its founding) in Pattaya from the 13 to 22nd Nov 2017, so the Beach Rd FL scene closure is probably related to that.
BTW, I took this FL chick ST. I offered 500 baht and she accepted immediately. Excellent fuck too, even if a bit older and a bit chunkier, but pretty face. As I was about to finish in flatdog I thought I would try my luck and asked her if I could bang her up the ass. To which she said I was "too big" and that I needed to "find a ladyboy"![/QUOTE]Based on this information the place to go for freelancers is directly to the eye of the storm. Bali Hai Pier.
Just exchanged a few Line messages with a freelancer who wanted to set up a date tonight. She said they have been chased off the water side of Beach Road but she hasn't yet had problems on the land side. She said she will be between Central Festival and Soi 12.
I didn't tell her that I'm back in USA. Perhaps she will provide more information later.
Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105358]Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?[/QUOTE]0. IMHO it is already a ripoff, but is something that must be experienced at least once for the novelty of it. Whatever the price you paid, she gets at least half of it already. Now a normal massage chick that is getting 100 out of the 200 that you paid for the hour, of course she needs a tip, but the soapy girl that got 1250 out of the 2500 that you paid for the 90 minutes not so much.
But I understand that many westerners feel obliged to give extra money for everything. Why do most people tip the taxi driver, but not the bus driver? Why do most people tip the person that served them at the restaurant, but not the person that served them in the airplane? Why don't most people tip their doctor or dentist, when they are providing the most valuable services that you will ever need in life?
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105358]Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?[/QUOTE]I was cheaper. I only paid the 2400 demanded upfront.
Yes, they've chased them off beach road. They've moved across the street. Some are working the WS discos. It's because of ASEAN International Fleet Review. Nov 13-22.
[URL]http://aseanifr2017.com/[/URL]
I hit the Soi Love Inn G-Clubs yesterday at 5 p. I was a bit disappointed. There were better and more ladies back in April. Club 4 only had 4 present. Slightly better line up in 007, with 6 ladies present. However the best of the bunch was a 35 yr old, with a smokin figure. Pirates had about 8 present. One Hottie with boltons was the best one there but she was busy. I didn't see her initially, safe to assume she's in demand. Older lady kept me occupied, and tried very hard to convince me to take her. I held out because I wanted to see the Carre Blanc lineup: They were the oldest of the bunch. Hit it off with a 36 yr old, with a hot body, who turned out to be a nympho. Had a Great time with her. Carre Blanc and Pirates were the busiest with customers.
I didn't go into J Club nor Club Sin.
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105358]Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?[/QUOTE]Actually she was the Fast Buck Artist not you despite your handle. Those of us who do tip give B200-300 in a soapy with B500 being a max tip for a great experience. B1000 is way too much for sure. She was trying to take advantage of you. I never have exceptional soapy experiences now. I seldom read about exceptional soapy experiences here too. Can't recall the last great soapy report. Soapies used to be my favorite venue. I didn't go to a soapy (other than to look at the line-up) on my last two Thai trips. The Lord in BKK is now on my bucket list after reading reports of beautiful girls there.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105382]0. IMHO it is already a ripoff, but is something that must be experienced at least once for the novelty of it. Whatever the price you paid, she gets at least half of it already. Now a normal massage chick that is getting 100 out of the 200 that you paid for the hour, of course she needs a tip, but the soapy girl that got 1250 out of the 2500 that you paid for the 90 minutes not so much.
But I understand that many westerners feel obliged to give extra money for everything. Why do most people tip the taxi driver, but not the bus driver? Why do most people tip the person that served them at the restaurant, but not the person that served them in the airplane? Why don't most people tip their doctor or dentist, when they are providing the most valuable services that you will ever need in life?[/QUOTE]Haha, we think alike. Actually, seeing your questions here made me think of the Seinfeld show!! I think Pattaya needs a stand up comedian. Perhaps that's a business idea for you. I think talent will be happy to come there, don't ya think?
(and yeah, why don't we tip the auto mechanic, the guy or gal that helps us try on several pairs of shoes in a shoe store, etc). Well, maybe some of these guys will soon start tipping the ATM machine too haha. In the future when we are all serviced by robots? LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105382]0. IMHO it is already a ripoff, but is something that must be experienced at least once for the novelty of it. Whatever the price you paid, she gets at least half of it already. Now a normal massage chick that is getting 100 out of the 200 that you paid for the hour, of course she needs a tip, but the soapy girl that got 1250 out of the 2500 that you paid for the 90 minutes not so much.
But I understand that many westerners feel obliged to give extra money for everything. Why do most people tip the taxi driver, but not the bus driver? Why do most people tip the person that served them at the restaurant, but not the person that served them in the airplane? Why don't most people tip their doctor or dentist, when they are providing the most valuable services that you will ever need in life?[/QUOTE]OK thanks for the heads up. I didn't feel like the $90 paid in total was a ripoff, she did put in her best effort, but I'll tip less next time.
To answer your question why tip the waiter. They will spit in your food next time if you don't or serve you last, make you wait longer to take your order, etc. Why don't we do the same with the dentist? I know how much he's getting from the fee paid (most of it), with the waiter I don't know, he could be getting 20% or 0, some of them live entirely on tips.
And we don't tip for airplane food because it's always disgusting slop.
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105547], with the waiter I don't know, he could be getting 20% or 0, some of them live entirely on tips.[/QUOTE]LOL. But why would that be your concern? That should be the concern of the employer, not the customer. You do not walk into other businesses and tell the owner that you will pay his employees. You are only concerned with paying for what you are buying and the owner should be concerned about paying his employees.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2102307]Seeing you are a handy pool player we must catch up on a few frames too. And the second round of drinks will be on me.
My next visit will be in April 2018 during Songkran. I know for a fact that BB will be heading for the hills then. He hates that time of the year.[/QUOTE]I am tempted to join you for Songkran.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105554]LOL. But why would that be your concern?[/QUOTE]Do you like your soup with extra [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] or without? You decide haha.
OK not every waiter will spit in your food if you don't tip, but it does happen, what is more common is to serve non-tipping customer last, delay to take their order, be rude to them. So if I am planning to return to the establishment for another meal, I will tip. If you do not plan to return, you can tip zero with no bad consequence to you.
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105559]OK not every waiter will spit in your food if you don't tip, but it does happen, what is more common is to serve non-tipping customer last, delay to take their order, be rude to them. So if I am planning to return to the establishment for another meal, I will tip. If you do not plan to return, you can tip zero with no bad consequence to you.[/QUOTE]IMO, the above comment applies more to the US, not to Thailand.
Although these days in the tourist areas, many waitresses want / expect a tip. I see the waitresses frown when the customer doesn't leave a tip at the go-go bars.
Gents,
Will be flying into Bangkok next week for a few days. I've made a few trips before but was considering exploring Pattaya this time. Have heard that there's at least passable scuba diving and that the nightlife might be a nice change up from Bangkok.
1) Anyone here done any diving (in the water, not on the girls!) in Pattaya? Worth it?
2) Given the timing, any concerns for next week with respect to the ASEAN naval exercise or what have you? I don't usually go with FL, prefer higher-end options.
3) I realize this has been a topic of much discussion, but general thoughts on BKK vs. Pattaya?
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105559]Do you like your soup with extra or without? You decide haha. OK not every waiter will spit in your food if you don't tip, but it does happen, what is more common is to serve non-tipping customer last, delay to take their order, be rude to them. So if I am planning to return to the establishment for another meal, I will tip. If you do not plan to return, you can tip zero with no bad consequence to you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2105587]IMO, the above comment applies more to the US, not to Thailand. Although these days in the tourist areas, many waitresses want / expect a tip. I see the waitresses frown when the customer doesn't leave a tip at the go-go bars.[/QUOTE]I concur GreenBud. Best to do as the locals do: leave a 20 bht note and any spare change. Don't over tip, this is NOT the West. And look at your bill, some places include a 10% service charge.
Greetings to all the forum members, particularly the senior and more active forum members, who as always have been most insightful with their various posts.
Anyway, am all booked up for a week 1st week of December and have RTFF and continuing to do so.
Also am on TF and Tinder.
I have been to Pattaya before, but am still very much a newbie with limited Pattaya experience and will be travelling on my own for this trip.
Was just wondering if any of the forum members were around during this period and were happy to meet for a few drinks or a wonder, particularly those that are more experienced in Pattaya.
Me, British, early 40's and easy going.
Have PM in case you prefer to message there rather than cluttering the forum.
Jack.
Though there were warning regarding beach road free lancers. However I came to see a hot 21 year old beauty standing on beach road, I asked LT she quoted 1500 I said yes. Spent two days and two nights with her for 3000. She travel with me to Bangkok. She was great. Great service no limits. Spent the best two days. Hope to see her again when I came to Thailand. I have her contact.
[QUOTE=BennLee;2106682]Though there were warning regarding beach road free lancers. However I came to see a hot 21 year old beauty standing on beach road, I asked LT she quoted 1500 I said yes. Spent two days and two nights with her for 3000. She travel with me to Bangkok. She was great. Great service no limits. Spent the best two days. Hope to see her again when I came to Thailand. I have her contact.[/QUOTE]I am here in Pattaya. I wish to meet her.
[QUOTE=BennLee;2106682]Though there were warning regarding beach road free lancers. However I came to see a hot 21 year old beauty standing on beach road, I asked LT she quoted 1500 I said yes. Spent two days and two nights with her for 3000. She travel with me to Bangkok. She was great. Great service no limits. Spent the best two days. Hope to see her again when I came to Thailand. I have her contact.[/QUOTE]I will be in Pattaya for a week next month. Would love to take this beauty.
Can you please share her contact?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2105174]Based on this information the place to go for freelancers is directly to the eye of the storm. Bali Hai Pier.[/QUOTE]500 baht for a pretty faced lady sounds like a good deal.
Do you happen to have her number?
I would love to bang her too.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2105479]Yes, they've chased them off beach road. They've moved across the street. Some are working the WS discos. It's because of ASEAN International Fleet Review. Nov 13-22.
[URL]http://aseanifr2017.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Observations from last Wednesday.
During the night, didn't see SWs on the beach side of Beach Road. There were some on the city side of Beach Road. It seems there weren't as many as previous years. One good thing (IMO, LOL!) is that I didn't see any ladyboys on Beach Road. But they still are there on Walking Street.
During the daytime, observed a few SWs on Beach Road, but definitely not as many as previous years.
During the nighttime, there were several female SWs on Walking Street, next to the ladyboys.
A good bar for groping is Crazy House go-go on Walking Street. They also have one of the best happy hour specials for draft beer. 49 Baht for a small (maybe 8 ounces?) draft beer before 10 PM. Then it goes to 90 Baht.
They have 3 types of dancers: naked, topless, and bikinis. All the naked dancers will allow good, fun groping. Some of the topless and bikinis dancers will also allow groping. All for a 150 baht ladydrink, not that 2 ladydrink "tequila and coke" crap you get at the Crazy House go-go in Bangkok.
Girls are decent. IMO, the top girls weren't as cute as the top girls at the Crazy House in Bangkok. None of the girls seem to have breast enhancements.
Hint: buy the girls the ladydrink just after she finishes her dance set. Then you should get the entire 15 or 20 minutes of her off time for groping.
[QUOTE=BennLee;2106682]Though there were warning regarding beach road free lancers. However I came to see a hot 21 year old beauty standing on beach road, I asked LT she quoted 1500 I said yes. Spent two days and two nights with her for 3000. She travel with me to Bangkok. She was great. Great service no limits. Spent the best two days. Hope to see her again when I came to Thailand. I have her contact.[/QUOTE]Hello buddy,
Can you give us her contact?
I will be in Pattaya for a week next month and I would love to meet up with her.
I am here in Pattaya now! No good girl can see. Please help.
[QUOTE=Sreenatr;2107156]I am here in Pattaya now! No good girl can see. Please help.[/QUOTE]I sincerely hope you are joking.
What in the world are you smoking?
Unless you are looking for Hispanic chicks in the middle of Pattaya! Which again so sane man should do.
Jokes aside, please checkout the go go bars. I am sure you will find someone hot enough to bang all day.
[QUOTE=Sreenatr;2107156]I am here in Pattaya now! No good girl can see. Please help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2107299]What in the world are you smoking?
Unless you are looking for Hispanic chicks in the middle of Pattaya! Which again so sane man should do.[/QUOTE]Why not? There are Colombian chicks in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Sreenatr;2107156]I am here in Pattaya now! No good girl can see. Please help.[/QUOTE]Go down to soi Yomato. Enter from beach road and find the first ST hotel on your left. You'll see an old woman working there. Ask her for the key to room 311. Go to the room and open the door and there you will find the "Pattaya Time Machine". Deposit your baht and select any year prior to 2011, and select any destination in Pattaya Beach. Once you travel back in time you will see beautiful young cheap horny girls everywhere in the city.
If you fail to locate the "Pattaya Time Machine", then head down to walking street at night time and follow any docile looking japanese tourist carrying a man purse or fanny bag around his chest. Make sure the Japanese punter is carrying at least two smart phones. The ones with one smart phone are not in the know. Follow any one of these amenable lads into the gogo to which he is going to. There you will surely find beautiful women.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Sreenatr;2107156]I am here in Pattaya now! No good girl can see. Please help.[/QUOTE]No / small money = no honey dude.
[QUOTE=Sreenatr;2107156]I am here in Pattaya now! No good girl can see. Please help.[/QUOTE]Bamboo bar near entrance to walking street around midnight. Also, Tinder and Thaifriendly are good. Insominia late. Soi 6 is cheap too.
[QUOTE=Franga;2105072]
BTW, I took this FL chick ST. I offered 500 baht and she accepted immediately. Excellent fuck too, even if a bit older and a bit chunkier, but pretty face. As I was about to finish in flatdog I thought I would try my luck and asked her if I could bang her up the ass. To which she said I was "too big" and that I needed to "find a ladyboy"![/QUOTE]When I'm on Beach Rd and I see the woman I like, I ask them "Can you do everything? They'll get the message. There are quite a lot of them that can and do it willingly for 500BHT.
I just returned from a week in Pattaya after a 30-year absence. Man what a difference!
Compared to what it was like in the early 80's, the place now generally sucks. My friend and I stayed at the Queen Victoria hotel on Soi 6 (Nice budget hotel) and hit several bars on Soi 6, Walking Street, Soi 7, Soi 8, LK Metro, etc. It seems as if all the great looking girls have migrated to the gogo's, leaving the rest behind in the Beer Bars and BJ Bars.
I recall that back in the day the beer bars were overflowing with friendly smoking hot girls and it was difficult to choose. No so anymore. They are generally polite but not so hot as before. Perhaps the GoGo is to Thailand what the shopping mall is to small town retail in the USA.
I guess I may be spoiled from going to the Philippines every year. I split my time there between Angeles and Subic.
It's just more comfortable for me in PI as the girls speak English and were more fun to talk with. For me, Thai sounds like a scene from the movie "Mars Attacks". The extent of the dialogue was "Hellooooo", "Come in", "Sit down", "Boom Boom?
I would be interested in the perspective of others that were in Pattaya in the 80's and have recently returned.
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2107574]I just returned from a week in Pattaya after a 30-year absence. Man what a difference! ..........[/QUOTE]Yeh, I was there 30 and 40 yrs old, and am still "there" today.
Don't forget Thais are more 'age conscious' than the Flips. You have aged 30 yrs, don't look so sweet anymore. This matters in Thailand, does not matter so much in Philippines, and yes "more fun in Phils" , always has been, always will be. In Thailand your always conducting 'transactions' , buying buffet meals, buying pussy, buying this and that, whereas in Phils you do get to experience "relationships" limited as they are.
Prettier commercial girls in Thailand, but more "fun" in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2107574]I just returned from a week in Pattaya after a 30-year absence. Man what a difference! .....[/QUOTE]Typo, sentence should read: " Yeh, I was there 30 and 40 yrs ago, and am still "there" today".
I corrected post after submitting, maybe too late. I have no Edit button with which to edit my posts, once I have hit the submit button.
30 yrs older? But your money was just printed yesterday!
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2107574]I just returned from a week in Pattaya after a 30-year absence. Man what a difference!
Compared to what it was like in the early 80's, the place now generally sucks. My friend and I stayed at the Queen Victoria hotel on Soi 6 (Nice budget hotel) and hit several bars on Soi 6, Walking Street, Soi 7, Soi 8, LK Metro, etc. It seems as if all the great looking girls have migrated to the gogo's, leaving the rest behind in the Beer Bars and BJ Bars.
I recall that back in the day the beer bars were overflowing with friendly smoking hot girls and it was difficult to choose. No so anymore. They are generally polite but not so hot as before. Perhaps the GoGo is to Thailand what the shopping mall is to small town retail in the USA.
I guess I may be spoiled from going to the Philippines every year. I split my time there between Angeles and Subic.
It's just more comfortable for me in PI as the girls speak English and were more fun to talk with. For me, Thai sounds like a scene from the movie "Mars Attacks". The extent of the dialogue was "Hellooooo", "Come in", "Sit down", "Boom Boom?
I would be interested in the perspective of others that were in Pattaya in the 80's and have recently returned.[/QUOTE]So many hot girls ready and available in Pattaya. Being a PI and Thai regular, my honest opinion which is shared by many that I cohort with, PI is on the downturn. AC has fallen so far. Manila is a ripoff. Subic and Olongagpo are pretty much extinct. In Pattaya, there is more quantity, more quality, more variety and more affordability / value. Soi 6 makes Fields Avenue look like an NFL to Peewee comparison. Unlike AC and Fields, Pattaya has way more than just one street. Soi 6, Soi Bukhauw, Walking Street, LK Metro, Darkside, Beach Road, Chiapoon, Soi 13, Jomtien and many more. Bar Girls of Soi 6, Beer Bar girls, Soapy girls, TF / Badoo / Tinder girls online, agogo girls, BJ bar / Gentlemens club girls, street walker freelancers, mall freelancers, Insomnia / iBar / Lucifers freelancers.
My advice, know when to go where. You cannot hit Soi 6 any time of day and hit any bar and expect heaven. It just doesn't work that way. The variety of quality at Soi 6 bars. Varies by bar and by time of day. Do the research, gather intel and know which bars have the girls you are looking for. Hit Soi 6 at 8 pm and go to Ruby, then come back and tell me if they didn't have any talent you didn't dig.
I find some of the mannerisms of the various dialects of Filipino to be just as stereotypically annoying as the various dialects of Thai. But I don't really care how they sound when they cat call. They sound great when they are getting fucked.
Hi BennLee,
Going there in the end of January, so if you feel like sharing the contact info, I would love to have it.
Chico.
[QUOTE=BennLee;2106682]Though there were warning regarding beach road free lancers. However I came to see a hot 21 year old beauty standing on beach road, I asked LT she quoted 1500 I said yes. Spent two days and two nights with her for 3000. She travel with me to Bangkok. She was great. Great service no limits. Spent the best two days. Hope to see her again when I came to Thailand. I have her contact.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2107574]I just returned from a week in Pattaya after a 30-year absence. Man what a difference![/QUOTE]I were in Pattaya this year in January after an absence of about 16 years. I came first time to Pattaya in 1997.
I can confirm what you have seen. Now the good looking girls you find in GoGo bars or discos. The ones left in beer bars are just average in looks and their age is higher. Prices are about three times compared to 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=Pussycheck;2107707]I were in Pattaya this year in January after an absence of about 16 years. I came first time to Pattaya in 1997.
I can confirm what you have seen. Now the good looking girls you find in GoGo bars or discos. The ones left in beer bars are just average in looks and their age is higher. Prices are about three times compared to 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]Inflation causes prices to double about every 20 years. But a 3 x price increase is truly indicative of supply and demand. Too many punters and / or not enough girls.
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2107574]I just returned from a week in Pattaya after a 30-year absence. Man what a difference![/QUOTE]My perspective may be different, as I visit Pattaya briefly every few months, for the last 15 years or so. The decline was NOT linear.
Back in mid-2000's, there were still decent looking girls in beer bars, and Beach Road was often a (cheap) treasure trove.
The decline was fairly slow, but apparent around 2010. Until about 2012, I can't say I ever had a bad mongering trip to Pattaya. Until then, a doable girl every single day off Beach Road, Walking Street or beer bars was almost guaranteed. After that, it was hit and miss, with occasional decent finds, but by no means guaranteed. Since 2014, I can't say I met any truly memorable NEW girls. A few of the ones I met prior to 2014 keep working and remain good, and some of the new ones were passable (in terms of looks plus service combined), but not a single one would compare to a few dozen truly memorable ones prior to 2014.
Back in the heyday, I would often not even take a phone number from a good looking girl giving a great experience, since I assumed I could find her again anyway, and if I couldn't, there were simply too many to choose from.
Briefly, there was a slow decline up to 2012, followed by a fairly rapid one afterwards. This being Thailand, very few things change overnight, but it's obvious that Pattaya's days as the mongering paradise are numbered.
I stayed at a small hotel off 13/2 near the Post Office, and was able to pull nice freelances off Beach Road for 600-700 Baht. For pure mongering, I found Pattaya to be far, far superior to Bangkok. And if you like disgusting, then Walking Street in Pattaya rivals anything in Nana or Soi Cowboy. I had girls in some of the Walking Street bars sitting on my face for a reasonably priced Lady Drink.
[QUOTE=AsianStuffer;2107602]Soi 6 makes Fields Avenue look like an NFL to Peewee comparison.[/QUOTE]NFL means National Football League I suppose? But what is Peewee?
Please note we're not all Americans here.
It's just a bunch of little kids playing football.
I was thinking about AC but it seems pattaya is the place to go back to. Atleast for now.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2107979]NFL means National Football League I suppose? But what is Peewee?
Please note we're not all Americans here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2107768]My perspective may be different, as I visit Pattaya briefly every few months, for the last 15 years or so. The decline was NOT linear.[/QUOTE]The question is: Is there already any better place than Pattaya which also has a beach and a sea and good shopping possibilities?
I would just say: Pattaya is still the best place since you can still get very beautiful girls mostly in GoGo's and discos and they come with a higher price than they used to have in former times.
For example on my last stay in January this year I still saw very beautiful and memorable girls but in GoGo's and disco's only. The most memorable one was from Sensation's a GoGo and would have gone with me for a total of 8,000 THB.
[QUOTE=Pussycheck;2108007]The question is: Is there already any better place than Pattaya which also has a beach and a sea and good shopping possibilities?[/QUOTE]I can't think of any other place. A distant second would be Subic Bay, IMO. Bali has the better sea, but not the easy mongering.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2107987]I was thinking about AC but it seems pattaya is the place to go back to. Atleast for now.[/QUOTE]If I had to spend an eternity at one place, I would choose Pattaya. It has the beach, food, shopping, nude dancing, naughty shows, variety, and quantity.
But Angeles has 3 things I like better:
1) The girls speak English.
2) Go-go girls are less expensive.
3) Angeles has Texas hold-em poker.
Yes, I know some people are going to whine because the old Angeles vs Pattaya is being repeated, but "humans tend to repeat themselves".
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2108016]
If I had to spend an eternity at one place, I would choose Pattaya.
.[/QUOTE]You just spoke my mind, Green Bud. And it kinda forced me to prepone my general writeup of the weeklong trip to Thailand which ended last week, it was my first time of course.
Just a few general notes before detailed reports of the individual places and girls later.
First I want to say a big THANK YOU to all the good souls who share their wisdom on this forum. There are a lot of legends here, you know who you are. You guys are very lucky and I am jealous.
1. I am not new to mongering. But after a few years of dry spell, Pattaya simply blew me away. Nothing prepared me for the sheer number of women, the variety, the different venues. It was just too much. I can't get it out of my mind. The hotties that I liked but did not bang before I left Pattaya for short of time are giving me sleepless nights.
2. Thai girls are really really HOT. No offense but when I browsed through hundreds of photos in galleries associated with ISG Thailand forum, I actually asked myself if I made the right choice. Because some of the girls and their bodies in these pics were just butt ugly and I wouldn't fuck them with my enemy's dick. However once I landed, it was just amazing. Were all the girls hot? Hell no, but it is not as bad as this forum makes it to be. The constant comparison of today's Pattaya with the 70's and 80's is not really necessary. There are enough hotties for everyone. And even if a few are not interested in you because of your race or whatever, there are still an awful lot of HOT girls to be had. I like girls with white skin and the options are endless. I was spoiled by my 10+ year long stint in the US where I visited on average 2 strip clubs every weekend. The kind of girls to be had there, nothing can come close. You are not going to find those girls on craigs list, back page or escort agencies. I really was spoiled, it cost me a lot of money but I do not regret it one bit. Even for someone like me, Pattaya was a shocker. The openness and the quality of girls you can have here for just under $200 is just mind boggling.
3. Why on earth did I not know that some of the Thai girls have a good booty! OMG, did I hit a jackpot or what? I did not have a hint of what I was about to see in the beer bars and gogo bars. Some of the girls with small hips and tits had amazing booties. A 20 year old that I saw in Windmill, I still can't get that sight out of my mind. She could give the juicy latinas of Houston a run for their money. Perfect buns for the asslover.
4. Indians. This actually needs to be on top but whatever. Being an Indian is a disadvantage. That's an understatement. In fact if you are part of the 90% horde that smells like curry and walks around with a beer bottle yelling at each other and haggling endlessly with the girls, then please stay home. There are enough Indian restaurants on 2nd road and beach road to fill every hungry indian for eternity. We don't need to indianize a beautiful seashore any further. I have never been so harassed in my life for being an Indian. Guys constantly shoving needless shit in my face and yelling at me from the other side of the road to eat at his joint, asking me to share a ride with them. The list is just endless. I am embarrassed and just disgusted in general. 90% of these guys could not get a Visa if they have to submit their financial papers, a lot of them are traveling for the very first time on an airplane and their first time overseas. Plus they have never seen girls in such a setting before. I feel for them but to bring a million plus bottom feeders most of whom come straight to Pattaya is going to ruin the identity of this city. I have seen it in the US at multiple hotspots for Indians and how it turned from a quaint suburb in to a mini India in no time. Guess what? It drives everyone away and I hope the government does something sooner than later.
Sorry for the rant and probably many reading this might think I am an elitist but I am not a rich guy trying to stonewall a poor guy from having a good time. I am just saying people who do not have manners and money have no business to be here.
With that said, if you are easy on the eyes, wear clothes like you would wear to an informal party, are well mannered and can spend around 8-10 k Baht a day, there is still good time to be had in Pattaya, even if you are Indian. I just followed the routine I used to follow in the US strip clubs. An Indian guy enters for the first time, he will be the only person not to be disturbed by the white girls for lap dances. But you behave nicely and tip generously on and off stage, girls take notice. And when you visit the next day it is just another world. We had amazing times in couple of gogo bars in Pattaya just being nice and generous. Ofcourse we were denied entry to Peppermint and may be another club I do not remember but we just swallowed our pride and decided to check out other places. Was it embarrassing, yes. At the end of the night I still banged a beautiful 20 something old gogo dancer with a body to die for. That is what makes Pattaya memorable for me. Even an Indian can have a good time here, with a few strings attached).
5. Sex is cheap in Pattaya, don't give me flak for saying this. For 1000 B, there are still decent looking girls to be had. Ofcourse the hotties in gogo bars and soapies command 3-5 k or more but deservedly so. Not going in to the supply and demand curve and economics, it is what it is.
6. Baht bus is a lifesaver, never thought getting around would be so easy. The mild weather helped too.
7. Being in late 30's, all the travel and non stop action for a few days takes a toll on the body. I really wish I knew about this paradise of earth when I was in my 20's. Better late than never I suppose. The massage parlors in this case are a godsend, especially the 200 B feet massage and head massage that makes you sleep like a baby.
8. Will I be visting again? Hell yeah!!
Detailed reports to follow later.
Happy Hunting!
Cheers Pattaya.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2108052]You just spoke my mind, Green Bud. And it kinda forced me to prepone my general writeup of the weeklong trip to Thailand which ended last week, it was my first time of course.
Just a few general notes before detailed reports of the individual places and girls later.
First I want to say a big THANK YOU to all the good souls who share their wisdom on this forum. There are a lot of legends here, you know who you are. You guys are very lucky and I am jealous.
1. I am not new to mongering. But after a few years of dry spell, Pattaya simply blew me away. Nothing prepared me for the sheer number of women, the variety, the different venues. It was just too much. I can't get it out of my mind. The hotties that I liked but did not bang before I left Pattaya for short of time are giving me sleepless nights.
2. Thai girls are really really HOT. No offense but when I browsed through hundreds of photos in galleries associated with ISG Thailand forum, I actually asked myself if I made the right choice. Because some of the girls and their bodies in these pics were just butt ugly and I wouldn't fuck them with my enemy's dick. However once I landed, it was just amazing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pussycheck;2108007]The question is: Is there already any better place than Pattaya which also has a beach and a sea and good shopping possibilities?
I would just say: Pattaya is still the best place since you can still get very beautiful girls mostly in GoGo's and discos and they come with a higher price than they used to have in former times.
For example on my last stay in January this year I still saw very beautiful and memorable girls but in GoGo's and disco's only. The most memorable one was from Sensation's a GoGo and would have gone with me for a total of 8,000 THB.[/QUOTE]No, unfortunately, there's no better place, even if you ignore count shopping or the beach. Angeles City is a contender, but on close examination doesn't come anywhere near. The sad thing is, Pattaya in 2017 is so much worse for mongering than in 2007, in almost every way (price, selection, looks, friendliness, service), but I guess we have to accept that our options are narrowing, worldwide.
As for 8,000 THB, that's serious money, for a bit of a poke and squirt. In that price range, I'm fairly sure you can find better looking girls in many places elsewhere (say, Macau or Singapore). If you got good service, [I]maybe[/I] it's worth the cost, but there are no guarantees, and I wouldn't be too eager to drop that kind of money on a barely-average Issan farmer's daughter. Let's face it, that's the category even top A Go Go girls fall into, without the beers, bad lighting and makeup -- not even cream of the crop of deepest darkest Issan, let alone Thailand. Their advantages used to be being cheap and friendly, but being top-class pretty or even especially skilled in bed was not a strength even in the good old days.
Today is Wednesday 22nd November, and ASEAN Navy Review is finally over. According to reports, Beach Road has been cleared of freelancers for several weeks now.
What does it look like now that the review is done? Are the girls starting to go back? Is Beach Road back in business?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2108390]Today is Wednesday 22nd November, and ASEAN Navy Review is finally over. According to reports, Beach Road has been cleared of freelancers for several weeks now.
What does it look like now that the review is done? Are the girls starting to go back? Is Beach Road back in business?[/QUOTE]Relax Croc, beachroad is back to business as usual.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2107768]
Briefly, there was a slow decline up to 2012, followed by a fairly rapid one afterwards. This being Thailand, very few things change overnight, but it's obvious that Pattaya's days as the mongering paradise are numbered.[/QUOTE]I think the girls have mostly stayed the same, but the economics, technologies, and venues have changed.
Economics- Thailand has developed dynamically in terms of GDP per capita over this time period and price of all services, including P4 P, have gone up. If anything the price of p4 p has risen at a slower pace than the costs of other goods an services. Though Gogo prices do seem to be going through the roof.
Technology. A lot of girls have taken to Social Media and find it an easier way to find customers than sitting in a beer bar waiting for a customer or working a goo go. Social Media can be a pain in the ass and time consuming. But it can be damned rewarding.
Venues. There are more gogos and discos than before and the girls seem to prefer to work in these over the beer bars. So many of the beer bar complexes are just empty now- of both customers and girls. The larger ones like Drunken Street seem vacuous. I'm not sure how many days these places have left.
If one adjust to these new realities and accepts the higher price point than very pretty GFE girls can still be found in Pattaya. And discos, like Insomnia and Ibar (and now Lucifer!), where you can pick up a very hot girl for 2-3 K for LT GFE are still a a fantastic value.
Just my 2 baht's worth. Stay horny my friends. And enjoy Pattaya to its fullest.
Uncle-V.
I have been to many countries, from UK Dubai to Korea Japan, Malaysia etc. But never seen such a cheap and smiley humble girls. I was in Thailand for 10 days, and I was so angry on myself, why I used all my shots using my hand. Never the less it was great. The thing that separate hookers in Thailand from other countries is manners. I had sex with a big ass Iranian fro 700 baht until I ran out of condoms and had girl with me for three consecutive days unlimited sex and things. I just wish Korea to Bangkok ticket could became more cheaper so I can come to Thailand every month. Sex and Korea is so expensive and like fucking a dead fish.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2109056]If one adjust to these new realities and accepts the higher price point than very pretty GFE girls can still be found in Pattaya. And discos, like Insomnia and Ibar (and now Lucifer!), where you can pick up a very hot girl for 2-3 K for LT GFE are still a a fantastic value.
Just my 2 baht's worth. Stay horny my friends. And enjoy Pattaya to its fullest.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Or my friends you can use Tinder and Thaifriendly and save a ton of time and money. But I agree gogo prices getting way to high and hit and miss with the girls almost not worth the effort except maybe to watch. Beer bars are OK just way too many IMO but great for going and playing pool buying some drinks.
Are the girls that hustle drinks for Billabong available to barfine or as freelancers. The few I've sat with haven't been that interesting to me but there are some hot ones there.
Soi 6 / LK areas. Very good for wham bham thank you maam style of mongering, unless you are the type who wants to take the girl with you. About 90% of the girls I did not find very appealing but the rest 10% were very much doable. And since there are so many bars, you are always going to find something you like.
We walked around Soi 6 many many times, sometimes as early as 10 ish in the morning and still found someone good enough to fuck. First day, most of the bars were still empty since it was too early but I found Ying, a young and petite girl with a beautiful smile. Looks wise she could hang with the middle tier go go girls but when she got naked taking off the padded bra she had literally no tits and a large eraser sized nipples. The firm well shaped ass more than made up for it. So surely she has had one or more kids but the baby damage was not apparent anywhere else which is one thing I found hard to believe. Almost all the girls I banged in this trip had kids but unless you are very keen you couldn't tell because none of them had any visible post baby 'pooch', may be because they were all quite young. Anyways, session was very good and Ying was sweet as sugar. Unfortunately cannot recall the name of the bar, but typical 1000 B plus room cost.
LK / Time bar. Next evening barfined a young girl Fai, she was probably early 20's, had a little bit of meat on the bones which again means another Thai butt to die for. Not really a looker but at that time I couldn't pass a young thing with some junk in the trunk. I banged her mostly in Doggy and lazydog positions. Not a time watcher, spent a while at the hotel even though it was ST.
Second time in the same evening was at Jungle bar with a very fit girl, lot of tatoos. A very playful girl who was actually up for a threesome with my friends. She was but we were not ready, what can I say. The girl had a banging body and an amazing butt. She was probably the only girl with not a milky white skin type that I usually select but her hot bod was too much to resist. She had a little bit of ladyboy vibe because of her facial features and I inquired with the mamasan who confirmed she was totally a girl. May be I was paranoid but what the hell, better to be safe than sorry. It was another great session. Had couple of drinks with her post session sitting at the bar just people watching. It is times like this when the language barrier becomes way too much and I am not in to Google Translate either unfortunately.
It was after this session I had the massage of my life. I was so spent after 2 rounds in the evening and was craving for a good massage, not the one with happy ending. So just walked in to one of the many massage parlours on second road and was taken upstairs since I wanted a full body oil massage. It was good but what followed was simply amazing. The lady asked 500 B for a HJ, I told her I just came back from Soi 6 and she still insisted. I told her to go ahead but after a while it was painful and I told her to just let go. Instead she started massaging my balls, the dick which was limp by now, inner thighs and the area between balls and butthole whatever that is called. She used varying pressures at different spots. She was even pulling my balls a little bit when massaging the lower abdomen and used a lot of different techniques. I have had lot of good massages but never this type. An unforgettable experience. I wanted to go back to her next day but it just didn't happen. Just when you think you have figured out what Pattaya has to offer, it always brings up a surprise and gives a reason to smile!
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2108052]You just spoke my mind, Green Bud. And it kinda forced me to prepone my general writeup of the weeklong trip to Thailand which ended last week, it was my first time of course.
Just a few general notes before detailed reports of the individual places and girls later.
First I want to say a big THANK YOU to all the good souls who share their wisdom on this forum. There are a lot of legends here, you know who you are. You guys are very lucky and I am jealous.
1. I am not new to mongering. But after a few years of dry spell, Pattaya simply blew me away. Nothing prepared me for the sheer number of women, the variety, the different venues. It was just too much. I can't get it out of my mind. The hotties that I liked but did not bang before I left Pattaya for short of time are giving me sleepless nights.
2. Thai girls are really really HOT. No offense but when I browsed through hundreds of photos in galleries associated with ISG Thailand forum, I actually asked myself if I made the right choice. Because some of the girls and their bodies in these pics were just butt ugly and I wouldn't fuck them with my enemy's dick. However once I landed, it was just amazing. Were all the girls hot? Hell no, but it is not as bad as this forum makes it to be. The constant comparison of today's Pattaya with the 70's and 80's is not really necessary. There are enough hotties for everyone. And even if a few are not interested in you because of your race or whatever, there are still an awful lot of HOT girls to be had. I like girls with white skin and the options are endless. I was spoiled by my 10+ year long stint in the US where I visited on average 2 strip clubs every weekend. The kind of girls to be had there, nothing can come close. You are not going to find those girls on craigs list, back page or escort agencies. I really was spoiled, it cost me a lot of money but I do not regret it one bit. Even for someone like me, Pattaya was a shocker. The openness and the quality of girls you can have here for just under $200 is just mind boggling.
3. Why on earth did I not know that some of the Thai girls have a good booty! OMG, did I hit a jackpot or what? I did not have a hint of what I was about to see in the beer bars and gogo bars. Some of the girls with small hips and tits had amazing booties. A 20 year old that I saw in Windmill, I still can't get that sight out of my mind. She could give the juicy latinas of Houston a run for their money. Perfect buns for the asslover.
4. Indians. This actually needs to be on top but whatever. Being an Indian is a disadvantage. That's an understatement. In fact if you are part of the 90% horde that smells like curry and walks around with a beer bottle yelling at each other and haggling endlessly with the girls, then please stay home. There are enough Indian restaurants on 2nd road and beach road to fill every hungry indian for eternity. We don't need to indianize a beautiful seashore any further. I have never been so harassed in my life for being an Indian. Guys constantly shoving needless shit in my face and yelling at me from the other side of the road to eat at his joint, asking me to share a ride with them. The list is just endless. I am embarrassed and just disgusted in general. 90% of these guys could not get a Visa if they have to submit their financial papers, a lot of them are traveling for the very first time on an airplane and their first time overseas. Plus they have never seen girls in such a setting before. I feel for them but to bring a million plus bottom feeders most of whom come straight to Pattaya is going to ruin the identity of this city. I have seen it in the US at multiple hotspots for Indians and how it turned from a quaint suburb in to a mini India in no time. Guess what? It drives everyone away and I hope the government does something sooner than later.
Sorry for the rant and probably many reading this might think I am an elitist but I am not a rich guy trying to stonewall a poor guy from having a good time. I am just saying people who do not have manners and money have no business to be here.
With that said, if you are easy on the eyes, wear clothes like you would wear to an informal party, are well mannered and can spend around 8-10 k Baht a day, there is still good time to be had in Pattaya, even if you are Indian. I just followed the routine I used to follow in the US strip clubs. An Indian guy enters for the first time, he will be the only person not to be disturbed by the white girls for lap dances. But you behave nicely and tip generously on and off stage, girls take notice. And when you visit the next day it is just another world. We had amazing times in couple of gogo bars in Pattaya just being nice and generous. Ofcourse we were denied entry to Peppermint and may be another club I do not remember but we just swallowed our pride and decided to check out other places. Was it embarrassing, yes. At the end of the night I still banged a beautiful 20 something old gogo dancer with a body to die for. That is what makes Pattaya memorable for me. Even an Indian can have a good time here, with a few strings attached).
5. Sex is cheap in Pattaya, don't give me flak for saying this. For 1000 B, there are still decent looking girls to be had. Ofcourse the hotties in gogo bars and soapies command 3-5 k or more but deservedly so. Not going in to the supply and demand curve and economics, it is what it is.
6. Baht bus is a lifesaver, never thought getting around would be so easy. The mild weather helped too.
7. Being in late 30's, all the travel and non stop action for a few days takes a toll on the body. I really wish I knew about this paradise of earth when I was in my 20's. Better late than never I suppose. The massage parlors in this case are a godsend, especially the 200 B feet massage and head massage that makes you sleep like a baby.
8. Will I be visting again? Hell yeah!!
Detailed reports to follow later.
Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2109056]I think the girls have mostly stayed the same, but the economics, technologies, and venues have changed.
Economics- Thailand has developed dynamically in terms of GDP per capita over this time period and price of all services, including P4 P, have gone up. If anything the price of p4 p has risen at a slower pace than the costs of other goods an services. Though Gogo prices do seem to be going through the roof.
Technology. A lot of girls have taken to Social Media and find it an easier way to find customers than sitting in a beer bar waiting for a customer or working a goo go. Social Media can be a pain in the ass and time consuming. But it can be damned rewarding.
Venues. There are more gogos and discos than before and the girls seem to prefer to work in these over the beer bars. So many of the beer bar complexes are just empty now- of both customers and girls. The larger ones like Drunken Street seem vacuous. I'm not sure how many days these places have left.
If one adjust to these new realities and accepts the higher price point than very pretty GFE girls can still be found in Pattaya. And discos, like Insomnia and Ibar (and now Lucifer!), where you can pick up a very hot girl for 2-3 K for LT GFE are still a a fantastic value.
Just my 2 baht's worth. Stay horny my friends. And enjoy Pattaya to its fullest.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Agree Uncle. China used to be my go to place back in the 90's but it is all but dead now. Things change and we need to adjust our expectations. Pattaya is still great for the hobby and still good value for what you get IMHO. I travel to Phnom Penh a bit but the daytime action and sheer number of options are not there. Other Asian cities are expensive, e.g. Singapore, Tokyo, Jakarta for quality girls.
The world is changing so we should just accept it change with it.
Happy Hunting.
New agogo on walking street beside Simon complex. I didn't go in. The girls in the front look great but I never use that as an indicator on which clubs are good.
Simon complex was packed last night. Hung out with my gem for a bit before I got bored of the lack of DFK and hands on action. Still worth a look at Simon complex for those in town. Tons of girls so I'm sure most can find someone to barfine from there.
Hi guys,
A belated report on my 2 night visit a few weeks ago. Taxi from BKK quick and arrived early afternoon. This is my 5th visit but always 2 night short visits. I envy you guys who can spend a week or more here and take it easy at times. My visits are about maximizing the time with the beautiful girls of Thailand. On 2 previous visits I met up with members and we had same room sex with the girls. Not because we wanted to save on the hotel bill but to have fun together. On this trip no member responded so going solo. Staying at the Aya Boutique Hotel. Rooms a bit dim but OK 3 star standard and in a quiet location in a side street and equidistant from LK Metro and Walking Street. I have stayed at the Baraquada McGallery Sofitel 5 star not far away. Great hotel if you don't mind the expense and suites come with in room jacquizi. Both hotels very friendly staff. Will allow 2 girls if you wish and above 18 years. I mention this because I stayed at the Bayview once and got back to be told my girl was under 21 and could not enter. So check your hotel age rules. So when you arrive early in the day what to do. Shower first. Have a plan! And contacts! Always good from a previous visit if you like a girl to keep her contacts to arrange an early meet up. However the girls can be unreliable and might agree then postpone the time because they want to sleep and prefer to meet you in the bar later. Anyway I met a girl in Diablo Agogo in Phuket on a previous visit and kept in contact with her and she had transferred to Pattaya. She is a real GFE type but other guys have spotted that as I know she has been in a trip to Singapore with a guy and just got back from a similar trip to Chiang Mai. Anyway she is free but I postponed her to night 2 as I wanted to see what else was available night 1. So first stop was Hooters. Chatted to a friendly waitress and eventually asked her if they are allowed to meet guys they meet outside. In fact I saw from previous posts that they are not allowed. She confirmed this story but I am sure she was a bit interested but no point wasting a short trip arranging to meet her later when she might not want sex and just free diner and drinks. Anyway I like Hooters for a casual afternoon drink. I went to Hooters in New York in the summer and was laughing at the really woeful 1/10 girls there compared to Hooters bars in Thailand. So after Hooters back to hotel to shower and change. Just casual but It never fails to amaze me how some guys dress like shit and still expect the hot girls to look their way. At least colour match clothes and no open sandals or vests OK! My general observation about the girls in the gogo bars is how few try to establish eye contact and just stare at the mirror opposite. I am white European not overweight so think they not just avoiding me as I see they do it to everyone. My starter is always LK Metro when the bars open at 7 pm. Start at Touch. Always 2 fully naked girls then Paradise and work my way around the bars. I also have contact with a girl in Ninja Gogo but decided to just drop by to have drinks on this visit. She seemed happy anyway as I bought her her daily quota of drinks because she is a nice girl. Overall LK Metro OK but no real stunner so 10 pm on the back of a bike to Walking Street. I am just into the gogo bars but must try out the discos next time. So I went into many bars on Walking Street and again many nice girls but no absolute stunner. I like Baccara for the eye candy but never bar fined there. So 2 am I had to take action and happened to be in Bliss. Did the business and out I walked hand in hand with 2 pleasant girls and back to the hotel. So when they undressed first thing is fuzzy pussy hair which I never regard as a turn on. Anyway off we go. BBBJ and then it is clear these girls have low skill levels. They treated my dick like a piece of wood squeezing hard so I asked them to be gentle and they didn't really get it. So flipped them on their backs and mish with both. Then doggie then back to mish and I came. Overall 6/10 so not disappointed but not great. The type of girls you just want to say bye to and sleep which is what I did. Next day up after midday and down to Hooters to see the same girl. Then my meet up with the girl I met in the gogo bar in Phuket. She said she was 21 but later I found out she is 19. Very sweet and guaranteed GFE so looking forward to seeing her. She turned up on schedule at the hotel. Up to the room and both naked quickly and kissing. She is quiet and shy even though we met before. BJ but she put on condom. My rule is always follow what the girl is comfortable with and I never push them to do anything they don't like. Lots of mish. Then doggie and she has such a cute ass. Just pounding away thinking I am the luckiest guy in Pattaya. Then she on top till I came. We then spent the evening touring the gogo bars mainly Walking Street. She intended to try to look for work overseas but in the meantime will work in Baccara. Back to the hotel later and she was really so relaxed and chatty by now. BBBJ This time without hesitation. So sweet and a real GFE experience. Stayed with me and walked me to the taxi for BKK airport. Nice thing about this visit was low season and no tour groups on Walking Street but frankly they don't bother me as they don't go into the bars. Love Pattaya for the sheer choice of bars. I am a gogo bar type guy. Next visit end December in high high season so early scoping and bar fining the gem of a girl (s) that catch my eye. Have fun and stay safe. I don't really have favourite gogo bars as sometimes you can find gems in the smaller gogo clubs. However I always like seeing the eye candy in Baccara, Windmill, Saphire, Skyfall on Walking Street and Touch and Paradise on LK Metro. On this trip I actually was excited to see 2 girls in Paradise who I had bar fined before when they made a real effort in the room and gave me a great time but the girls move on and they were nowhere to be seen. Forgot their names so could not ask. Anyway there are many fish in the Pattaya pussy ocean of dreams.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2109670]New agogo on walking street beside Simon complex. I didn't go in. The girls in the front look great but I never use that as an indicator on which clubs are good.
Simon complex was packed last night. Hung out with my gem for a bit before I got bored of the lack of DFK and hands on action. Still worth a look at Simon complex for those in town. Tons of girls so I'm sure most can find someone to barfine from there.[/QUOTE]Thanks BB. Never quite remember which Simon is the better one. Is it the first one from the beach road entrance or the second one?
Plan to be there late Jan so will be interested to check it out then. Save some girls for me.
Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=Smily59;2108982]Relax Croc, beachroad is back to business as usual.[/QUOTE]Very few freelancers at 8 pm last night from soi post office to walking street.
[QUOTE=Axiata;2109758]Thanks BB. Never quite remember which Simon is the better one. Is it the first one from the beach road entrance or the second one?
[/QUOTE]The one across from Annabelle's. The one near ibar sucks.
On a related note does anyone know the pricing structure for the beer bar complex on beach road right at the entrance to walking street? I actually saw someone half decent as I walked by last night.
Curious if anyone here has grabbed a taxi at Bkk and had it take them to Pattaya. If so, what's the going rate?
[QUOTE=Breadman;2110760]Curious if anyone here has grabbed a taxi at Bkk and had it take them to Pattaya. If so, what's the going rate?[/QUOTE]1200-2000 depending on your negotiation skills. Also might be (much) better to pre-book if you want quality over some smelly airport taxi. 1500 should get you good quality. Several companies available with good references. I don't have PM option but I'm sure others can refer you to a good one.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2110760]Curious if anyone here has grabbed a taxi at Bkk and had it take them to Pattaya. If so, what's the going rate?[/QUOTE]Mr. T taxi service will do it fro 1200 from Swampy and 1300 from Don Mueang. Only one time was my driver less than satisfactory. Usually a very good, service oriented experience. Edit: He will pick you up anywhere in Bangkok, price might vary but probably no more than 1300. Often good for him so a driver does not return to Pattaya "empty" after making an airport drop off.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2110760]Curious if anyone here has grabbed a taxi at Bkk and had it take them to Pattaya. If so, what's the going rate?[/QUOTE]About 3 weeks ago I went from Sukhumvit Soi 4 to Beach Road on a Monday early afternoon. 1400 baht in a nice, clean taxi, including tolls. Nothing was prearranged.
When in Pattaya I noticed a storefront that arranged taxi, they had a posted rate to Bangkok of 1200 baht.
Just read that Pattaya has / will be installing 24 wifi hotspots along Beach Road from Dusit Thani to Bali Hai Pier. I'm assuming most of us get a cheap DTAC data plan once we arrive but just in case.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2110832]Mr. T taxi service will do it fro 1200 from Swampy and 1300 from Don Mueang. [/QUOTE]1300 is a good price out of DMK but 1200 is high from Suvarnabhumi. Breadman, PM if you want a better rate to / from suvarnabhumi.
OK I wanted to write a review of the reality of Pattaya right now. A lot has changed. I will just write bullet points and that will give the most honest point off what to expect if you come right now.
Good points.
1. The good news is the weather is perfect and no rain. The evening can even be little colder than I ever remember. But tee shirts are still fine.
2. You have more food options than ever before with so many new restaurants opened that were not there last year.
3. The motels seem to be cleaner with fresher sheets and less mosquitos.
Bad Points.
1. Pattaya looks like a shell of its former self compared to even last year. Many of the beer bars are empty with 4 girls and no customers. The woman there are older and not good looking.
2. Many many beer bars have closed.
3. Where are all the beautiful woman? Man, I have never ever seen it like this. You can still find a good looking woman. But, it takes a lot of walking and walking and work:
4. The beer bar alleys next to Big C. I want to say Soi 6 but don't quote me. I know places visually and forget the exact street names sometimes because of too much travel. It did have 6-10 girls in each beer bar. Very little customers. The girls at least 95% of them were not good looking and look workout and trashy. No newbies like before that I saw. Only hard core pro's covered in tattoos.
5. When less customers Thai logic is to raise prices. Which I always just say no thank you and walk.
6. I used to enjoy looking at the Thai paintings lined up to Mike Shopping center. That alley has been closed down. No more beautiful Thai painting for sale that I could find at least.
7. There are a lot of woman standing for customers next to the beach. But, again mostly hard core pros. Nothing caught me eye.
Is Pattaya a ghost town. No, there are people here. One thing that is different is I don't see as much of guys walking around with there Thai girlfriend or even eating with them. Most guys are eating alone. There are exceptions but not like was even last year or like it was for the past 15 years.
I see a lot of Chinese trying to spend as little money as possible just sight seeing. I see Indians harassing the girls. What I mean but that is 3- 4 guys surrounding one girl. Trying to get her to work for basically pennies. But, they like Chinese are also trying to spend as few cents as possible. Russian guys are here and they actually bring their girlfriends. WTF? The European guys are usually drinking all night in the beer bars. I don't even see that really. Its just different.
In conclusion if you never been to Thailand before or one of those guys that are just happy a girl will look at you. You might be happy and say your having the time you life. But, if you been coming here many years I think that you will be disappointed and in shock and say what happened.
I did not check out Bangkok yet this trip. Will I come to Pattaya again. Yes, a good time can still be had. You just have to do a lot more walking and searching if your standards are high. But, this place is not what it was. I might have to do Angeles City next year instead.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2110760]Curious if anyone here has grabbed a taxi at Bkk and had it take them to Pattaya. If so, what's the going rate?[/QUOTE]LOL. I have said it 1 million times. Go upstairs to the 4th floor. Walk across to where the taxis are. Ask them how much to Pattaya. They will say 1500. Say no way. 900. He will start putting your bags in the car.
Tolls are 60, so at the final toll booth when they have to pay just hand them 1000 baht and that is that. Sometimes they may take you to a car lot right outside the airport to dump you off to another driver (which takes all of 2 minutes) but the other day the same guy brought me straight here.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2110083]Very few freelancers at 8 pm last night from soi post office to walking street.[/QUOTE]Last night was better went out about 11 pm plenty from Central to WS.
Update, the following day many more tourists come. The bars that were dead now have people. Today is my 4th day here and it was not till today that it seems like more tourists come. By the way. It seems many of the most beautiful girls. Figured out they don't need to stand around for men I was told they are using line and we chat now. Maybe Pattaya has become more digital.
I just spoke with some tourists that just come from Bangkok. They told me after the kings death it very different there. Many beer bars closed. Plenty of freelancers though.
[QUOTE=TomSf;2110850] Russian guys are here and they actually bring their girlfriends. WTF? [/QUOTE]Well, from the description you have given of the Thai wgs I don't blame them. Russian babes are hot.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2111088]Well, from the description you have given of the Thai wgs I don't blame them. Russian babes are hot.[/QUOTE]The handful of times I've been there, those Russian babes with their BF's were the baddest women in Pattaya, IMHO.
Just a quick update. Yesterday there was one young sophisticated type with the face of an Asian angel. The type that wants a young handsome customer. Well there was none, so her and friend walked out empty handed after 2 hours. A full 9 and she had a full ass too.
And the other is a delicious brunette with a signed tattoo on the upper chest by the arm. This one has no issue with older men as I have seen her with one and she kept looking at me, I rate here a good 8 and I seen her more than once.
Not much else, sometime you can catch the idiotic girl from Chiang Mai, always alone before she moves to Ibar. Very pretty face. fairly skinned, enhanced rack, good legs. 2. 5 K damage, 7. 5 in looks but she quickly turns into a biatch, as in slapping me as she was cumming. Not again, thanks.
Note for the scale I rate most women there between 3 and 4, occasionally peaking to 6.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2111166]Just a quick update. Yesterday there was one young sophisticated type with the face of an Asian angel. The type that wants a young handsome customer. Well there was none, so her and friend walked out empty handed after 2 hours. A full 9 and she had a full ass too.
And the other is a delicious brunette with a signed tattoo on the upper chest by the arm. This one has no issue with older men as I have seen her with one and she kept looking at me, I rate here a good 8 and I seen her more than once.
Not much else, sometime you can catch the idiotic girl from Chiang Mai, always alone before she moves to Ibar. Very pretty face. fairly skinned, enhanced rack, good legs. 2. 5 K damage, 7. 5 in looks but she quickly turns into a biatch, as in slapping me as she was cumming. Not again, thanks.
Note for the scale I rate most women there between 3 and 4, occasionally peaking to 6.[/QUOTE]I like Red Car as I have had some good luck finding a few gems in the place.
Dudes, I have not written since leaving Pattaya the end of last month. I left Pattaya to go spend about 12 days with my virgin Thai GF in BK and Phuket before returning home and then getting busy with other stuff.
I do wish to report that, finally, after many, many attemps over 2-1/2 years and 5 trips to LOS, my virgin Thai GF is finally simply my Thai GF! She was a tough one to break in to, but mission accomplished!
That is the good news. Lots of awesome BB sex, right?!
The bad news is that I had problems coming with her. Sigh. Guys, with some embarrassment I will admit that I broke down and bought this male masturbater from Japan a while back to practice with to try to improve my endurance and supply, and the thing is amazing. I can come every day with that thing, day after day, even week after week. Even 2 to 3 days a day periodically, without problems. Feels great. But as you know, I have a very difficult time coming with a real, live, hot and beautiful girl if I have a condom on. Maybe I can come once every 3 to 4 days with a condom. But if I have been with a girl, trying hard for nearly 30 minutes and nearly to the point of exhaustion, if we go BB, I can literally come in 20 seconds. Bareback feels so, so, so much better. Night and day.
So now, having inserted myself inside my truly virgin GF, I had to work really, really hard to come! When I did, I proudly pulled out and came in her mouth, and she swallowed every last drop, but why the hell was it so difficult to come? The feelings of a bb pussy weren't there with her. She is indeed a real girl, so was it nerves on my part, was her pussy still to tight, a lube issue, or what? (She is early 40's and she had told me 2 years ago she as a problem getting wet, and she does, but we used lube.) When we tried again the next day, I couldn't come at all! She just didn't feel that good inside. And not only did it not feel that good, I just couldn't seem to find a good position with her, and we were experimenting. I know she stayed tense, but even that should not have kept me from coming I would think. I did manage to come 4 times in those 12 days, but it should have been 16 times based on my Japanese toy! She wanted sex, but it was all disappointing and I go to where I didn't even want to do it anymore! Talk abut pathtic!
She was totally into sex, thought. When I came the second time (inside here) and headed to the bathroom to get some tissues to clean her up, she chased after me to lick me dry before I went limp. So, this girl is sexually awesome. She will do anything for me. She wants me to come on her face. I wanted to, but the effort to come was so much I didn't want to risk pulling out and losing it.
Oh well.
So, I must have some mental issues going on. The plumbing works, my toy proved that to me. I am hoping that maybe she was just too tight, or maybe she was still tense. I will give it another try, so already looking forward to return to Pattaya in April, then to see her in May.
But happy I finally got me a virgin, but the effort was tremendous and, thus far, not worth the trouble actually. But we will see. She is a great girl and if the feelings get better, she will be quite the sexual catch.
After I got the place figured out, I can have success with picking up someone here most every time. Most are middle aged and medium appearance, but some can give a true GFE and a few are MILFs. Another good thing here is smoking is banned. Music can be loud, but at least you don't have to cough and leave smelling like an ash trey. I usually give 1. 5 to 2 K, so it isn't too much more expensive that Soi 6, depending on the drinks. Best luck is had after 1 AM. A lot of working girls go here so they can't stay out too late. Many will spend the night, while some offer to leave as they have to get up early and don't want to disturb you.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2111166]Just a quick update. Yesterday there was one young sophisticated type with the face of an Asian angel. The type that wants a young handsome customer. Well there was none, so her and friend walked out empty handed after 2 hours. A full 9 and she had a full ass too.
And the other is a delicious brunette with a signed tattoo on the upper chest by the arm. This one has no issue with older men as I have seen her with one and she kept looking at me, I rate here a good 8 and I seen her more than once.
Not much else, sometime you can catch the idiotic girl from Chiang Mai, always alone before she moves to Ibar. Very pretty face. fairly skinned, enhanced rack, good legs. 2. 5 K damage, 7. 5 in looks but she quickly turns into a biatch, as in slapping me as she was cumming. Not again, thanks.
Note for the scale I rate most women there between 3 and 4, occasionally peaking to 6.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2111200]Dudes, I have not written since leaving Pattaya the end of last month. I left Pattaya to go spend about 12 days with my virgin Thai GF in BK and Phuket before returning home and then getting busy with other stuff.
I do wish to report that, finally, after many, many attemps over 2-1/2 years and 5 trips to LOS, my virgin Thai GF is finally simply my Thai GF! She was a tough one to break in to, but mission accomplished!
That is the good news. Lots of awesome BB sex, right?!
The bad news is that I had problems coming with her. Sigh. Guys, with some embarrassment I will admit that I broke down and bought this male masturbater from Japan a while back to practice with to try to improve my endurance and supply, and the thing is amazing. I can come every day with that thing, day after day, even week after week. Even 2 to 3 days a day periodically, without problems. Feels great. But as you know, I have a very difficult time coming with a real, live, hot and beautiful girl if I have a condom on. Maybe I can come once every 3 to 4 days with a condom. But if I have been with a girl, trying hard for nearly 30 minutes and nearly to the point of exhaustion, if we go BB, I can literally come in 20 seconds. Bareback feels so, so, so much better. Night and day..[/QUOTE]Dude.
I understand completely how you feel. Many years ago when I met now wife in Bali same thing happened to me. She made me wait 4 months and 3 visits before we had sex and I cum the first 2 two times and then whammo over the next 10 days I probably cum 4 more times! She moved in with me some 6 weeks later here in Australia and everything was normal! Nerves? Maybe. Don't stress it. Condoms don't bother me but in the past if I'm with a girl more then 2 to 3 pops I just lose interest and can't cum anymore! Happy you finally got her and good luck.
Rob.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2111166]Just a quick update. Yesterday there was one young sophisticated type with the face of an Asian angel. The type that wants a young handsome customer. Well there was none, so her and friend walked out empty handed after 2 hours. A full 9 and she had a full ass too.
And the other is a delicious brunette with a signed tattoo on the upper chest by the arm. This one has no issue with older men as I have seen her with one and she kept looking at me, I rate here a good 8 and I seen her more than once.
Not much else, sometime you can catch the idiotic girl from Chiang Mai, always alone before she moves to Ibar. Very pretty face. fairly skinned, enhanced rack, good legs. 2. 5 K damage, 7. 5 in looks but she quickly turns into a biatch, as in slapping me as she was cumming. Not again, thanks.
Note for the scale I rate most women there between 3 and 4, occasionally peaking to 6.[/QUOTE]Could you kindly submit some recent profile pic, BMI, professional status and hint about annual income? Members of this noble board would certainly give you feedback about your own rating.
LP.
[QUOTE=TomSf;2110850]
3. Where are all the beautiful woman? Man, I have never ever seen it like this. You can still find a good looking woman. But, it takes a lot of walking and walking and work:[/QUOTE]Gogo bars. That's where the big money is for these girls so anyone decent will be in a gogo bar. If you need a list of the current hot gogo bars PM me. Let me know if you like Farang style natural Thai look (ie. IBar girls) or the Japanese style look (ie. Nose jobs).
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2110083]The one across from Annabelle's. The one near ibar sucks.
[/QUOTE]Confirmed last night. Simon bar area near iBar is a complete wasteland. Didn't see a single customer and very few girls. Hung out with my cute Simon Complex girl again last night. Simon Complex seemed busy with customers again. I still don't like the outdoor beer bar setup but my 19 year old makes it all worthwhile.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2111200]The feelings of a bb pussy weren't there with her. She is indeed a real girl, so was it nerves on my part, was her pussy still to tight, a lube issue, or what?
So, I must have some mental issues going on. The plumbing works, my toy proved that to me. [/QUOTE]It could be the the chemistry and anatomy that is not ideal. Male performance is strange sometime, and over the years I've experienced many apparently inexplicable "glitches and peaks" myself. Obviously there are things that don't help, like using of a condom, pulling it out, tiredness, excessive alcohol, etc. We have to deal with the fact that perfect sex partners are very rare in life, I have had 4 or 5, over many hundreds. Goes without saying that I've stuck to them for as much as possible, and was happy to be 100% faithful during those lucky times.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2110858]LOL. I have said it 1 million times. Go upstairs to the 4th floor. [/QUOTE]An even cheaper way. Often, buses are not frequent enough, or fill up quickly, so next departure is in 2 hrs or so. At that point just talk to any guy standing there with a puzzled face and share a taxi. Last time with a Norsk, he had bought a ticket already, but resold it easily!
[QUOTE=TomSf;2111074]I just spoke with some tourists that just come from Bangkok. They told me after the kings death it very different there. Many beer bars closed. Plenty of freelancers though.[/QUOTE]I have just returned from Bangkok. I didn't notice any closed beer bars, not in the Nana area anyway where most of them are.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2111340]
I think a lot of those Russian babes are just lovely.[/QUOTE]Baddest = coolest in US slang. Personally I find them always too tall, or too pale, or too drunk.
What is Pattaya like in early April. High or low season?
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2111339]I have just returned from Bangkok. I didn't notice any closed beer bars, not in the Nana area anyway where most of them are.[/QUOTE]Agree, yes the king died last year but no change with regards to this. He must have been in a different city.
While I don't find many of the girls in the beer bars to be attractive, I have had many great laughs hanging out with the girls.
At the beer bars. I have found more than a few gems to take home from the beer bars.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2111462]Well well, apparently it's not allowed for me to call the girls in the beer bars 'those animals that bark' even though quite a lot of people have done that.[/QUOTE]We've read enough of your reports to know you are not a racist.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2111200]Dudes, I have not written since leaving Pattaya the end of last month. I left Pattaya to go spend about 12 days with my virgin Thai GF in BK and Phuket before returning home and then getting busy with other stuff.
I do wish to report that, finally, after many, many attemps over 2-1/2 years and 5 trips to LOS, my virgin Thai GF is finally simply my Thai GF! She was a tough one to break in to, but mission accomplished!
That is the good news. Lots of awesome BB sex, right?!
The bad news is that I had problems coming with her. Sigh. Guys, with some embarrassment I will admit that I broke down and bought this male masturbater from Japan a while back to practice with to try to improve my endurance and supply, and the thing is amazing. I can come every day with that thing, day after day, even week after week. Even 2 to 3 days a day periodically, without problems. Feels great.[/QUOTE]Congrats on your conquest and sorry to hear about the issues you are having. I have never heard of a male masturbater or used any toys. You indicated the masterbater helps you with frequency and supply. Did you buy it online? I am curious enough to look into it. There was a discussion in the general discussion section a few weeks or a month ago about testosterone levels. I don't think that is your issue but you may want to check it out that discussion.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2111200]Dudes, I have not written since leaving Pattaya the end of last month. I left Pattaya to go spend about 12 days with my virgin Thai GF in BK and Phuket before returning home and then getting busy with other stuff.
I do wish to report that, finally, after many, many attemps over 2-1/2 years and 5 trips to LOS, my virgin Thai GF is finally simply my Thai GF! She was a tough one to break in to, but mission accomplished!
That is the good news. Lots of awesome BB sex, right?!
(She is early 40's .[/QUOTE]A 40 year old Thai girl who is a Virgin? Am I missing something?
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2111618]A 40 year old Thai girl who is a Virgin? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]That's what I was thinking.
[QUOTE=Allover;2111536]We've read enough of your reports to know you are not a racist.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the support!
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2111618]A 40 year old Thai girl who is a Virgin? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Old virgins might be rare but they are out there. I've had a Korean GF (not P4 P) who was 33 at the time and still a virgin. She was not that pretty and said Korean men were not interested in her. But THEY never saw her body. Her face was barely a 6 but her body was an 8 and she had one of the tightest pussies I have ever felt. Breaking in took quite some time but after that it was pure heaven. She absolutely LOVED sex and was insatiable.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2111618]A 40 year old Thai girl who is a Virgin? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]What looks strange to me is that she knows she has problems getting wet, she swallowed him and even want him to finish on her face. I don't want to offense FL Hawk, but she does not look like a typical Thai virgin girl, unless she had prior sexual experiences without being fucked but I doubt it can be possible.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2111202]Another good thing here is smoking is banned. Music can be loud, but at least you don't have to cough and leave smelling like an ash trey..[/QUOTE](subj is Red Car).
Great point, I hate smoking, compare to Lucifer where there is a smoker every other table, that's way too much already.
Yesterday I went a bit before 2 I spotted a gem from the old times, she made a surprised face in seeing me, but had a customer already with which she was kind of dancing. But that is wasted time, that woman is insatiable and must be danced long and hard in the bedroom! Will hit it again but earlier, as it happens the best ones are the first to be taken.
As usual, for no reason whatsoever, Glass House seems to be the gogo bar pushing the limits on pricing. They were the first AFAIK to introduce the 2000 barfine. Now they're the first AFAIK to have a 240 baht lady drink! Not all drinks are this price but if you want to buy a beer for a model it will be 240 baht. Has anyone seen a higher price for a lady drink in Pattaya?
Boggles my mind since Glass House is completely empty most of the time and the clubs on both sides of it, Sensations, Nui 2, Ginza, and Infiniity are packed. Poor management decisions by Glass House.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2111735]What looks strange to me is that she knows she has problems getting wet, she swallowed him and even want him to finish on her face. I don't want to offense FL Hawk, but she does not look like a typical Thai virgin girl, unless she had prior sexual experiences without being fucked but I doubt it can be possible.[/QUOTE]I'd advise him to check the ass for evidence of past tenants. When I was in my teens I used to session a teen non-pro who only wanted it in the back, she was a virgin in the front.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2111888]As usual, for no reason whatsoever, Glass House seems to be the gogo bar pushing the limits on pricing. They were the first AFAIK to introduce the 2000 barfine. Now they're the first AFAIK to have a 240 baht lady drink! Not all drinks are this price but if you want to buy a beer for a model it will be 240 baht. Has anyone seen a higher price for a lady drink in Pattaya?
[/QUOTE]I think the barfine for model at Sky Fall before midnight is 2.000b as well, and ladydrink for the model 250b. Or is it 200b? Can't remember exactly.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2111618]A 40 year old Thai girl who is a Virgin? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I totally understand skeptism. I didn't believe her at first. You can read some of my contemporaneous reports of April / May 2015 and later to find the impossibility of me breaking through. I have called her the girl with the kevlar hymen. I mean, I could rub her pussy with my finger and simply not find her hole! I knew there had to be one, but any attempt to insert a finger caused her great pain, even with lots of lube. It was like I was poking her with no place to poke. And, no, she was not faking pain to avoid or delay sex. I really could not find a hole! I mean, with most women, we can rub a finger or a Johnson up and down the slit and plop, it goes right in. With her, there was like nothing! I would take a peek and there was a tiny opening, but too small to penetrate. I would try to enter with a hard, lubed Johnson, and it just would not go in. I thought I would break trying! It would keep slipping away! We tried many, many times. I questioned my own knowledge of female anatomy. I paid for her to visit two OBGYNs. They apparently found her inner V, but had to use a baby speculum. They told her she was tight and "to keep trying" to have intercourse, that eventually things would work. We at least knew that sex was a possibility, but I would get so frustrated, and she would get frustrated.
If the meantime, we had non-insertive sex. And she did have a BF previously who I believe she had such sex with, but she broke up with him as he wanted intercourse (duh) and he hurt her trying. At least with me she tried, and it hurt, but she was willing.
She does have an open mind, she likes porn, she is definitely sexually deprived, she lives with her brother and sister-in-law, she is a college graduate, she is smart and very soft spoken, and I have never caught her in a lie or where she changed her stories. I can call her at any hour and she answers and she will video chat with me so there is simply no way she is seeing others. (She could not make the same claim about me!) I have heard of surgery to restore one's hymen, but I see no signs of that. Everything about her shows she is a nice, old fashioned, soft spoken, intelligent woman. And I have befriended other Thai women who claim to have not lost their virginities until their 30's, and given they were quite honest in other things, I have no reason to doubt them.
While I am happy to have been her first, there is really no male pride or ego with it. I befriended her online back in 2012, then did not see her until 2015. I spent that time ensuring she was honest and might possibly be suitable as a long-term mate. It took another 2-1/2 years after meeting her to break through. Getting her virginity was an ordeal. When I was finally inside her (there was no popping. T was just hard to get in and penetrate) it was with a feeling of relief rather than a sense of pride and pleasure. Rather, it was with some disappointment as well, and then me thinking about how awesome a couple of Pattaya hookers felt when I went BB with them. So, my girl is hurting, putting up with pain to please me, and I am thinking about hookers. Sigh.
[QUOTE=Allover;2111542]Congrats on your conquest and sorry to hear about the issues you are having. I have never heard of a male masturbater or used any toys. You indicated the masterbater helps you with frequency and supply. Did you buy it online? I am curious enough to look into it. There was a discussion in the general discussion section a few weeks or a month ago about testosterone levels. I don't think that is your issue but you may want to check it out that discussion.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
Yes, they are available online. You can do a general web search, and eBay and Amazon sell them. Feel free to PM me for more information. Don't scrimp on money here. Get a large, heavy one for endurance training. Unless you have a woman at home who is available at your beck and call, they will help for LOS mongering trips.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2108016]I can't think of any other place. A distant second would be Subic Bay, IMO. Bali has the better sea, but not the easy mongering.
If I had to spend an eternity at one place, I would choose Pattaya. It has the beach, food, shopping, nude dancing, naughty shows, variety, and quantity.
But Angeles has 3 things I like better:
1) The girls speak English.
2) Go-go girls are less expensive.
3) Angeles has Texas hold-em poker.
Yes, I know some people are going to whine because the old Angeles vs Pattaya is being repeated, but "humans tend to repeat themselves".[/QUOTE]I just came over from AC. Yes, the girls speak better english and it is a bit cheaper. But AC is just tiny compared to Pattaya! Much more 3rd world poor and dirty; nothing else to do; there was even an electric blackout when I was there. My opinion: Pattaya beats AC by far!
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2112040]I just came over from AC. Yes, the girls speak better english and it is a bit cheaper. But AC is just tiny compared to Pattaya! Much more 3rd world poor and dirty; nothing else to do; there was even an electric blackout when I was there. My opinion: Pattaya beats AC by far![/QUOTE]Exact same experience I had. I only visited AC once and likely won't be back. I lost an entire night due to a blackout at my hotel (Central Park) in AC and their generator wasn't working. In my opinion, Pattaya is way better than AC. More girls, more to do, better infrastructure.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2111735]What looks strange to me is that she knows she has problems getting wet, she swallowed him and even want him to finish on her face.[/QUOTE]I had a former friend that initiated his virgin Thai GF to the same plus anal, until eventually she realized what a dork he is and ended the relationship. Don't be mistaken by the fact that most Thai girls don't want to do these acts with customers, when they are with someone they really care for, they can be very submissive. I've also experienced the same.
I have just spent 30 days in Pattaya. I kept track of all my expenditures and here are the results. I don't do gogo bars or beer bars, and I rent an economical guesthouse room on a monthly basis. I mostly made my own breakfast and lunch but ate out every night. Flights in and out are not included.
I had 13 sexual encounters which included 2 HJ's. These were from Beach Rd FL's or the Chaiyapoon massage parlor area. I only fuck when horny and so this averaged out to 1 fuck / HJ every 2. 3 days.
While I find this can be annoyingly frustrating during the wait time to regain horniness, it also results in a great fuck when the time comes and is certainly cost-effective, as sex is the most expensive item on the menu in Pattaya.
Sex: 12530 baht in 13 encounters = 964 baht average / encounter. ($392 usd total).
Massage: 400 baht for 1 oilie. (included a 100 baht tip).
Room (w. Elec / water): 6760 baht for 30 days= 225 baht per day av. = $7 usd / day ($211 usd total).
Restaurants: 5060 baht for 35 meals = 145 baht per meal ($4. 5 usd each av.) (total $158 usd).
Groceries 5170 baht = $162 usd total.
Water for drinking: 35 baht for 30 liters at 5 baht per 6 liters= $1.10 usd total.
Songthaews: 320 baht at 10 baht / ride ($10 usd total).
Minivan in (Utapao): 250 baht ($8 usd).
Bus out (Morchit): 117 baht ($3.7 usd).
Taxi Morchit to DMueng: 150 baht ($4. 70 usd).
This all totals 30,792 baht spent in 30 days = 1026 baht per day on average. So in US dollars, at 32 baht exchange rate = $964 usd = $32.12 usd per day on average.
[QUOTE=Franga;2112481]I I rent an economical guesthouse room on a monthly basis. I mostly made my own breakfast and lunch but ate out every night. Flights in and out are not included.
Room (w. Elec / water): 6760 baht for 30 days= 225 baht per day av. = $7 usd / day ($211 usd total).
Re[/QUOTE]I'm curious what you can get for such an economical price. What part of town is it located? Do you have your own bathroom / shower or do you share? Can you brings girls back there? Does it have A / see?
Any link or pics to share of you $7 a night lodgings?
Thanks for the info!
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=Franga;2112481]
Restaurants: 5060 baht for 35 meals = 145 baht per meal ($4. 5 usd each av.) (total $158 usd).
Water for drinking: 35 baht for 30 liters at 5 baht per 6 liters= $1. 10 usd total.[/QUOTE]I'm also wondering in what part of town you were staying. Where can you buy 6 liters of water for only 5 baht? And I know 145 baht for a meal is possible but it's usually a small meal and not enough for me.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2112487]And I know 145 baht for a meal is possible but it's usually a small meal and not enough for me.[/QUOTE]You're eating at tourist places. For example, driving East on Pattaya Klang, right hand side shortly after Big C. there is a large restaurant. Dishes are excellent, large servings and the widest possible selection, average 50 -80 Baht unless "special". Menu is in English. So you can have 3 serving for Baht 150 or little more. And if you want to get stuffed for cheap, hit the buffet restaurants, of which there are so many, just a bit outside tourist areas.
Personally, I'm done living on a tight budget and never kept a detailed record, but it's absolutely possible to spend very little here if you have modest demands.
For the water, I fill up at the water stations located all around where you get 6 liters for 5 baht or one liter for one baht. You need your own 6 liter container though. Either buy an initial one for around 35 baht I think (in 7/11 etc), or where I stay departing residents leave their containers behind and future guests can grab one and fill it up. I have never had any problems with the quality of the water in these little water stations. It's a great bargain, and certainly beats buying water at the convenience stores every few days.
For the accommodation, I cannot reveal the exact place, but it is in the Soi Buakhao area. The room is quite good as it is old style and measures around 30 m square. There is a double bed, Cable TV (sophon), aircon, medium sized fridge, a small desk and reasonable wifi. The bathroom is largish with an electric hot water heater. There is no cleaning service though. Yes you can bring girls back there, though I prefer to use ST rooms with ST freelancers so that they can make a mess there rather than in my room. There are a lot of these deals around I think. I find that renting by the month halves your accommodation cost compared to renting on a daily basis. The downside of the Soi Buakhao area is the lack of sidewalks for pedestrians until you hit second Road.
For food, sometimes for lunch I would head to Big see on Klang and get a very filling Chicken Curry meal with small ice coffee for 80 baht. That has brought the meal average down. So usually the dinner meal would usually be around 220 baht, but sometimes it would be 150 baht if only spag bol plus iced coffee.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2112452]Don't be mistaken by the fact that most Thai girls don't want to do these acts with customers, when they are with someone they really care for, they can be very submissive. I've also experienced the same.[/QUOTE]Some of them being very submissive is possible (or at least acting as submissive girls), but running after him to get the last drop in her mouth seemed a bit excessive for a girl said to be virgin. But I've read his last post and I understand that it's more complicated than what I first thought and he might be in the truth in the end. Anyway I wish FL Hawk a good luck in his relationship with that girl.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2112487]I'm also wondering in what part of town you were staying. Where can you buy 6 liters of water for only 5 baht? And I know 145 baht for a meal is possible but it's usually a small meal and not enough for me.[/QUOTE]At the Thai place on Soi Buakhao my meal is from 50 to 80 baht depending on what I get. Great fish and chips at the cart on LK Metro for 130 baht. I think I paid 60 baht for half rack of small ribs at the market yesterday. Chicken is all over town for 10 baht each. Kebabs are 80-100 baht depending on the meat. The breakfast I eat on 3rd Rd and Pattaya Klang just went up to 90 baht. Robin's Nest breakfast is about 140 baht. Last night I ate chicken and rice and soup at the corner of Pattaya Tai and Soi Buakhao for 45 baht. Before I came to Phuket today I bought a Subway sandwich for 90 baht. Seaside restaurant off Soi 7 has porkchop dinner for 145 baht. Sailor Bar on Soi 8 has cheap ass food. Then there are the food counters at Foodland and Villa Market. Here in Phuket me and 2 friends just had plates of crispy pork, kale, and rice and 3 Fantas for 440 baht. Water machines are all over town. I keep 3 1.5 liter bottles in my fridge that cost 1 baht each to fill up.
Like Franga was saying, the place where I stay I think the rooms rent for 500 baht/day, but since I have a long term lease of 6 months or more I pay 4500/month. It was built in 2008 and about 3 years ago they added a new building where the rooms rent for like 6000/month. This is the website that I found my place on 8 years ago. [url]http://www.soidb.com/pattaya/apartment/index.html[/url]
That is why reports on people paying a chick 1 month's rent for one night blow me away. Imagine if your job back home paid you 1 month's rent for 1 day. Not about being a cheap charlie or the price police, but Pattaya is not an expensive place to live in. Now if you insist on a 30,000 baht/month condo that is possible too, but 99.9% of the Thai chicks are not living that way. (As I said before one chick that I have talked to in my building works at Sapphire Agogo.) And you can also rent a 3BR house in East Pattaya for 10,000 baht/month if that floats your boat..
[QUOTE=Franga;2112481]
I had 13 sexual encounters which included 2 HJ's. These were from Beach Rd FL's or the Chaiyapoon massage parlor area. I only fuck when horny and so this averaged out to 1 fuck / HJ every 2. 3 days.
[/QUOTE]What do you do all day if you not fuck nor drinking? Watch tv? Sitting on the beach?
[QUOTE=Franga;2112498]
For the accomodation, I cannot reveal the exact place, but it is in the Soi Buakhao area.[/QUOTE]Why not? It's a secret?
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2112492]You're eating at tourist places. For example, driving East on Pattaya Klang, right hand side shortly after Big C. there is a large restaurant. Dishes are excellent, large servings and the widest possible selection, average 50 -80 Baht unless "special". Menu is in English. So you can have 3 serving for Baht 150 or little more. And if you want to get stuffed for cheap, hit the buffet restaurants, of which there are so many, just a bit outside tourist areas.[/QUOTE]I admit I eat at tourist places quite a lot, because they are the closest to where I'm usually staying, although I'm also familiar with some of the cheaper options that Mr. E. mentions.
The restaurant that you (OldNewGuy) mention sounds interesting. I will go there for lunch next time I'm in town. Going there for dinner is a pain in the ass I think, with the traffic jams in the late afternoon / early evening.
Buffet restaurants are food courts? Are they serving good food? I'm not really impressed by the quality of the food in food courts most of the time.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2112530]What do you do all day if you not fuck nor drinking? Watch tv? Sitting on the beach?
Why not? It's a secret?[/QUOTE]No I never sit on the beach, nor swim in the sea there. I can do without the UV. I actually have some study of a private nature to do, so if not doing that I am searching for food, or hookers, watching my own videos on my tablet, and also some cable TV. It is probably much too boring for the typical punter, but I am living more like a long-term resident. I don't drink, so don't frequent the bars. I like to remain a lean mean fucking machine. Just for the ladies.
Yes, it is a secret. I don't like to popularise my favorite hotels. A few years ago I arrived in Pattaya three days before Christmas and this guesthouse that I normally stay in was full. They found me another place close by so I paid for three days up till Christmas Day. Then I went down on Christmas morning to extend my stay but they said sorry your room has been booked by someone else and you have to leave. Well, I spent hours trying to find another room, carrying all my gear on my back in the hot sun. All hotels said the same thing: sorry full. I was just about to give up in despair when I decided to try the Siam Sawasdee as it was big, and yes they had an available room. But I had to buy the silly New Years dinner which was compulsory. Decided to stump up the cash in case I ended up homeless again. So that is why I don't like to promote my favorite hotel: in case you get the last room.
But I think that the accomodation situation in the high season has lightened up somewhat over the last few years. Supply may be exceeding demand these days. I think it has to do with the collapse of the rouble and the diminishing number of Russian tourists mainly?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112528]At the Thai place on Soi Buakhao my meal is from 50 to 80 baht depending on what I get. Great fish and chips at the cart on LK Metro for 130 baht. I think I paid 60 baht for half rack of small ribs at the market yesterday. Chicken is all over town for 10 baht each. Kebabs are 80-100 baht depending on the meat. The breakfast I eat on 3rd Rd and Pattaya Klang just went up to 90 baht. Robin's Nest breakfast is about 140 baht. Last night I ate chicken and rice and soup at the corner of Pattaya Tai and Soi Buakhao for 45 baht. Before I came to Phuket today I bought a Subway sandwich for 90 baht. Seaside restaurant off Soi 7 has porkchop dinner for 145 baht. Sailor Bar on Soi 8 has cheap ass food. Then there are the food counters at Foodland and Villa Market. [/QUOTE]Soi Buakhao and what soi for the Thai restaurant? My favorite kebab place on Soi Diana just outside LK Metro is only 60 baht. A couple of the noodle places in the back part of Avenue Mall near Soi 15 are good for 40-60 baht. Second best breakfast place I know is Retox Soi Lengkee. They have what's called the baht buster for 99 baht. If it doesn't fill you up you're eating too much. It's served until 4 pm. Highly recommended.
As for food courts in malls, when Pier 21 opens up in Terminal 21 you can get noodle or rice dishes for 25-40 baht. Hopefully Pattaya will keep the same prices and have the same vendors as Bangkok. As for Central Festival food park. Don't eat there it's a rip off.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2112661]Soi Buakhao and what soi for the Thai restaurant? My favorite kebab place on Soi Diana just outside LK Metro is only 60 baht. A couple of the noodle places in the back part of Avenue Mall near Soi 15 are good for 40-60 baht. Second best breakfast place I know is Retox Soi Lengkee. They have what's called the baht buster for 99 baht. If it doesn't fill you up you're eating too much. It's served until 4 pm. Highly recommended.
As for food courts in malls, when Pier 21 opens up in Terminal 21 you can get noodle or rice dishes for 25-40 baht. Hopefully Pattaya will keep the same prices and have the same vendors as Bangkok. As for Central Festival food park. Don't eat there it's a rip off.[/QUOTE]I agree about the Kebab vendor (the one located in front of Familymart Soi Diana) good value and fresh vegs. And chicken.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/SailorBarPattaya/[/URL] in soi 8 has good food both Thai and farang dishes, only 30 Baht for a Coke Samsong.
The food court at Big see Marina has better value than Central festival food court.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2112578]Buffet restaurants are food courts? Are they serving good food? I'm not really impressed by the quality of the food in food courts most of the time.[/QUOTE]No, all-you-can-eat places from 120 -150 and up, in the past there were 99 Baht ones too. Normally pretty good depending on the time, some have a very large choice, with table BBQ, lots of meats and fish, french fries, ice creams, etc.
For some reason the taste in food courts is often bland, but at least there is variety, cleanliness and convenience, eg in Big C. Klang. You see that not many Thais eats there.
Another thing I do and the ladies love is the "bagarin" restaurants at early hours , there is a row of them opposite Hollywood disco. You can have menu dishes or pot BBQ at the table. Today we had crispy morning glory and two large seafood spicy salads, the one in sauce was superb we both agreed. With rice, water, a large Singha bill came to Baht 430. Prices haven't changed in years, laid back place, zero tourists, what can you ask for more?
This was with a Red Car lady that I didn't see before, Dao, pretty face on a solid (not fat) body. She have man made hard boobs which do nothing for me. But she's nice to be with, friendly without being stupid, zero bullshit (well, she left way earlier than noon as promised, but i don't care anyway). Sex drive and endurance are Thai average (lowish) but can suck pretty good. Damage 2 K LT.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2112661]
As for food courts in malls, when Pier 21 opens up in Terminal 21 you can get noodle or rice dishes for 25-40 baht. Hopefully Pattaya will keep the same prices and have the same vendors as Bangkok. As for Central Festival food park. Don't eat there it's a rip off.[/QUOTE]IMHO there are only a few stalls in the food courts in Terminal 21 in BKK and Central Festival in Pattaya that have good food. You get what you pay for I guess.
And the one in Central Festival is indeed a rip off and too expensive for what you get.
Mike's shopping mall has a slightly cheaper food court but the quality there is also below par.
And there's a rather expensive food court at the top floor of Royal Garden, but I never tried that one.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2112718]No, all-you-can-eat places from 120 -150 and up, in the past there were 99 Baht ones too. Normally pretty good depending on the time, some have a very large choice, with table BBQ, lots of meats and fish, french fries, ice creams, etc.[/QUOTE]Are these places better than the (more expensive) all-you-can-eat dinner buffets at the Lek Hotel and Apex Hotel for example? I've eaten there quite a lot in the past until I had enough of the lukewarm food that is often sitting in the bins for hours.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2112785]Are these places better than the (more expensive) all-you-can-eat dinner buffets at the Lek Hotel and Apex Hotel for example? I've eaten there quite a lot in the past until I had enough of the lukewarm food that is often sitting in the bins for hours.[/QUOTE]Again, can't compare with tourist places which cater to foreigners. Typically in a Thai buffet you cook fresh meats and fish (actually your girl should do for you) on the BBQ (brazier / boiler), together with vegetables. Add mild / spicy sauces at wish. There are also pre-cooked foods like noodles, fried rice, meatballs, etc which get replenished often. Check out the many videos on YT.
[QUOTE=Franga;2112616]Well, I spent hours trying to find another room, carrying all my gear on my back in the hot sun. All hotels said the same thing: sorry full. [/QUOTE]In the past I thought I was being very smart making no reservation and looking for places in person, mind you that was riding a bike, not by feet / mototaxi extortion. How wrong I was, after ending being miserable too many times now I only use Expedia for my bookings and I do reserve in advance. For one, you can't beat the rates. And the guest reviews are totally genuine, for example both the serviced apartments where I'm staying now, as well Nova Express on 3rd Rd / Klang have ratings well above 4 which are absolutely deserved. If an hotel charges for guests or any other BS be sure you will read that in the reviews. I have Gold level, customer service has been always been helpful in the past, and reward points accumulate quickly when paying with an Expedia card and booking from the app, on average I get a free night every 10 - 15.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2096005]Pattaya Trip Report Day 2.
But, of course, especially since I had come yesterday, I could not come with her. I pulled out and collapsed from trying. She offered another BJ, and she did a nice job and got me close. Very close, actually, but even with only one come in well over a week, it would not happen. Not only can I rarely come with a condom on, I can only rarely come with a wonderful BBBJ. What is wrong with me? And when I fail with a BJ, I will fail with a HJ. Sigh. I gave up and had her lay next to me. For an old man who is sexually frustrated, having a sweet young woman next to you, naked, at least helps with the inadequacy feelings. Many of these girls, though hardly all, really do take it personally when a man fails. I still remember a Soi 6 girl from last time, a student actually, who refused to have sex with me again when I failed with her. She did not dislike me and she enjoyed talking to me, but her personal sense of failure took precedence over her need for money. Anyway, even in the "afterglow", the boner stuck around to taunt me at my failure, and she continue to slowly rub and before it went too soft, she even tried another BJ. It still felt good, but no orgasm. Not many old guys get to screw these hot young women, so what can't I come?.[/QUOTE]Even when I was young I never had the problem of premature ejaculation; now with age I encounter the same symptoms as you. Sometimes in the middle of the act, I ask myself: what's wrong? Your dick is inside a sexy young girl, what more can you ask for? And sometimes even bare back does not do the trick, crazy and foolish as it is to do bare back. But the girls take their pride in being able to make a guy come and do almost everything to make it happen. I have come to the conclusion: the road is the destination! Coming is just a side effect of sex.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2112793]Again, can't compare with tourist places which cater to foreigners. Typically in a Thai buffet you cook fresh meats and fish (actually your girl should do for you) on the BBQ (brazier / boiler), together with vegetables. Add mild / spicy sauces at wish. There are also pre-cooked foods like noodles, fried rice, meatballs, etc which get replenished often. Check out the many videos on YT.[/QUOTE]How many you guys try room service? My hotel has the best food / prices I've seen anywhere at 115 baht for Thai dish with rice. Quality and quantity of the food is really good. A great surprise.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2096005]back to missionary and I tried but, as you know, failed. What is wrong with me? Not many old guys get to screw these hot young women, so what can't I come?[/QUOTE]Try getting a testosterone shot at one of the clinics. They are 400 baht. Did wonders for me they take a week or two to kick in so get it when you get here. I have same problem especially after being here a couple of weeks. Try putting some lube on your cock before putting the condom on and no it won't come off just don't do the base.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2096005]But, of course, especially since I had come yesterday, I could not come with her. I pulled out and collapsed from trying. She offered another BJ, and she did a nice job and got me close. Very close, actually, but even with only one come in well over a week, it would not happen. Not only can I rarely come with a condom on, I can only rarely come with a wonderful BBBJ. What is wrong with me? And when I fail with a BJ, I will fail with a HJ. Sigh. I gave up and had her lay next to me. For an old man who is sexually frustrated, having a sweet young woman next to you, naked, at least helps with the inadequacy feelings. Many of these girls, though hardly all, really do take it personally when a man fails. I still remember a Soi 6 girl from last time, a student actually, who refused to have sex with me again when I failed with her. She did not dislike me and she enjoyed talking to me, but her personal sense of failure took precedence over her need for money. Anyway, even in the "afterglow", the boner stuck around to taunt me at my failure, and she continue to slowly rub and before it went too soft, she even tried another BJ. It still felt good, but no orgasm.[/QUOTE]The same thing happened to me years ago with a non-pro in the Caribbean. Even though I was relaxed at her place I would enter her and then go soft inside. I put it to the fact that she was older and less attractive than the pros I was accustomed to. However, many years before that I had another non-pro who was young and hot with whom the same thing happened and at the same time I could easily session less attractive women. Sometimes there just isn't a certain chemistry between two people which causes non performance; it has happened to me with pros as well. Also sometimes I would have a great session with an older and less attractive pro. One should not be too hard on oneself when these things happen for they won't happen all the time.
Just back from a fantastic 5 day trip to LOS. Hope this helps someone!
Day 1.
Landed at Bangkok after a bumpy red-eye flight from Mumbai. Immigration lines weren't long, and I was fortunate to get the faster immigration officer. A few friends, in another queue, got the patient officer, who was rationing the passengers at snails pace. They only came through after I had collected the bags, and made my way back near immigration counters! 3 people in 20 minutes! Must be some record!
Ride to Pattaya (pre-booked cab) was also late. And, all 5 dudes were tired and hungry after waiting another 30 minutes. Would this be one of those forgettable trips? (Spoiler alert: it wasn't).
We were put up at the Camelot, being close to Walking Street was a good idea. Got the hotel cheap at around 2200 baht a night. However, the rooms are damp, musty and stinky. It's an older property, and needs an overhaul to keep with the times. It is frequently by the group tours, where an overnight stay does no harm to it's reputation. Would not recommend. Surprisingly, saw many Russian (or maybe, Uzbek) gals staying there. Course, Indian dudes would never get a second look from them, sigh!
Our first destination for the evening was the soapy massage places; one member of the group was a Thailand virgin, and we wanted him to have a guaranteed start! We dropped in at Honey 2 to start with. On my previous trip, this had been the best of the lot. Choices start at 2500, all the way upto 4000 baht. However, virgin dude was uncertain, and we decided to hop over to the other soapies, and check out the options. (Quick tip: Baht bus will drop you off free; they make 50/100 bucks for each customer they bring in. Your hand is marked when you enter). Anyway, off to Rasputin next, which usually has a bevy of beauties. Rasputin had a similar range - 2500,3000, 3500 and then a jump to 5000 - the models (who were really hot, BTW). Going with the flow we then went to PP Massage (nothing worth checking out here), and finally to Honey1.
I picked Tuktuk in Honey1 (# M106), and she was a good pick. Tall, shapely, big boobs (enhanced, but very well done). She was friendly, and chatted me up to the room. The soapy massage was phenomenal, Tuktuk took great care of every part of me. The usual - "you so big" comment was laughable though. Unfortunately, the sex was a bit of a let down though and got very mechanical. I take time cuming, and the mechanical nature was just a turn off. Tuktuk offered an extended HJ, but the damage was done.
We went over to Walking Street much later in the night; was probably 11 when we got there. Tried to get into some of the go-go clubs and were basically turned down (who needs a decent group of Indian dudes, yech! The worst reaction is when the folks at the door cross their arms as you get closer to the club; public announcement that you're not welcome. WTH!
Anyway, Insomnia was welcoming, and we dove in to get our drinks. Crowded as usual. Love the vibe and energy. Lots of great looking gals as well. We had to leave, as there was no place to stand, let alone sit. So, crossed the street to Hot Tuna Bar, which had a live band in action. The music was great (I forget the name of the band though), and we chorused our way through a few drinks.
Exhauted, and yet somehow not so, we headed back to the hotel.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2113285]Try getting a testosterone shot at one of the clinics. They are 400 baht. Did wonders for me they take a week or two to kick in so get it when you get here. I have same problem especially after being here a couple of weeks. Try putting some lube on your cock before putting the condom on and no it won't come off just don't do the base.[/QUOTE]Good suggestion. Not enough people understand this. It actually reduces the risk of a condom tearing because most of the friction is at the tip and thus the point most at risk. You can also squirt some lube inside the tip of the condom before you roll it on. It will lube the area around the end of your cock and give more sensation. But it won't cause the condom to get looser further down the shaft. I recall some brand of condom came packaged with some kind of light lube inside the tip, but don't recall the name and I doubt they are among the better quality Japanese condoms that I prefer.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2113285] Try putting some lube on your cock before putting the condom on and no it won't come off just don't do the base.[/QUOTE]With a qualification, my experience has been a different from yours. In October and November I visited Thailand with a pile of Trojan Bareskin condoms, both the standard size and the magnum size. I always use a bit of lube on the head, but not the base. The standard size came off three times out of about 8 uses. The first time I thought the girl took it off to make me finish quicker. The next time it came off inside her after I finished but hadn't withdrawn (the cum was inside the condom). The third time it came off during sex and fallen on the bed, I didn't realize what happened until everything was finished. When I switched to the magnum size, everything was fine. I still used the lube.
Even though the standard size condom was fully unrolled when applied, the act of sex tended to roll it back up. My guess is the lube near the tip caused it to slide off the last little bit. Having the right size helped keep it unrolled and the lube never became a factor.
[QUOTE=Franga;2112498]For the water, I fill up at the water stations located all around where you get 6 liters for 5 baht or one liter for one baht. You need your own 6 liter container though. Either buy an initial one for around 35 baht I think (in 7/11 etc), or where I stay departing residents leave their containers behind and future guests can grab one and fill it up. I have never had any problems with the quality of the water in these little water stations. It's a great bargain, and certainly beats buying water at the convenience stores every few days.
For the accomodation, I cannot reveal the exact place, but it is in the Soi Buakhao area. The room is quite good as it is old style and measures around 30 m square. There is a double bed, Cable TV (sophon), aircon, medium sized fridge, a small desk and reasonable wifi. The bathroom is largish with an electric hot water heater. There is no cleaning service though. Yes you can bring girls back there, though I prefer to use ST rooms with ST freelancers so that they can make a mess there rather than in my room. There are a lot of these deals around I think. I find that renting by the month halves your accomodation cost compared to renting on a daily basis. The downside of the Soi Buakhao area is the lack of sidewalks for pedestrians until you hit second Road.
For food, sometimes for lunch I would head to Big see on Klang and get a very filling Chicken Curry meal with small ice coffee for 80 baht. That has brought the meal average down. So usually the dinner meal would usually be around 220 baht, but sometimes it would be 150 baht if only spag bol plus iced coffee.[/QUOTE]Hats off to you for your discipline and working within your budget. I think Mr Ent's suggestions and input re not overpaying comes back to me. Since I usually do. LOL.
Having said that, IMO the allocation of budget in Franga's Case is more like 20-25 pc of his total budget for accommodations ( note he uses separate place when with a girl ) and 15-20 pc for food and beverage ( note he does not drink ) and the rest for girls and fun. Now, that's with a 30 k baht budget for a month.
Now, if you scale up the total budget per month to say 100 K baht per month, or even 200 K baht per month your accomdations and food will be a lower percentage of total, thus allowing more for girls and entertainment (eg go go bars, discos etc).
So, I think guys may want to focus more on the percentages and average per day that they spend for each category vs. A specific meal. At least that is my takeaway.
Also, as far as girls, YMMV may vary, but at least in my experience when they want more than say 3 K per LT (I don't do ST) , then I find their perception of their own value is so high, that it makes for a difficult interactive experience. Also why I stick to 6's ans 7's and maybe an occasional 8 , because they have less of an ego.
IMO, go go girls live within the echo chamber of the other girls they work with and are constantly exchanging information within that work cocoon. This echo chamber IMO is what makes them hard to work with (not all of them to be sure). Now add on the quota of drinks they have to push and it is a an aggressive sales driven culture and work environment for them. The only place I have found this to be an exception is in Latin America. FWIW. Which is why in Pattaya I stick to the discos, arrive after 1 pm and p / u after 2/3 am. And try to find good solid 6. 5 and 7's. I dont succeed all the time !!! However, since I stay for a only or longer I am quite patient. Of course, YMMV will surely vary if you are under 35 and have looks and game.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2113413]Having the right size helped keep it unrolled and the lube never became a factor.[/QUOTE]The right size is everything. From what I've read up on condoms from what appear to be more academic sources, the lack of lubricant (if required) and the incorrect size are the overwhelming causes of most condom failures. I never thought of myself as a "large" until I bought some large size condoms "on sale" just for a grin and discovered that they not only fit better, but the sensation was better.
A real beef I have with working girls and the brothels is that they stock cheap condoms they likely buy in volume. This is predictable in a 3rd world country. But, I was surprised that the freelancers I did in Berlin took the same route for cost cutting and stocked the same cheap condoms you'd find anywhere else. Its not like they were poor, didn't have easy access to a broad array of condoms (if there is one thing that Germany excels in, its the proliferation of "sex shops") or were uneducated. One was actually overeducated. I'd think those girls would make the investment in their health and customer satisfaction by paying a little more for a decent condom. I expect they have no concept of these things, because they don't have to wear condoms, though it does explain why they do carry their own preferred lube (in my observation).
Its why I always make sure I carry more than enough of my preferred condoms on a mongering trip, with some single-shot packets of lube. It makes for a better experience and more piece of mind.
[QUOTE=NickMehta;2113393]
We were put up at the Camelot, being close to Walking Street was a good idea. Got the hotel cheap at around 2200 baht a night. However, the rooms are damp, musty and stinky. It's an older property, and needs an overhaul to keep with the times. It is frequently by the group tours, where an overnight stay does no harm to it's reputation. Would not recommend. Surprisingly, saw many Russian (or maybe, Uzbek) gals staying there. Course, Indian dudes would never get a second look from them, sigh!
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We went over to Walking Street much later in the night; was probably 11 when we got there. Tried to get into some of the go-go clubs and were basically turned down (who needs a decent group of Indian dudes, yech! The worst reaction is when the folks at the door cross their arms as you get closer to the club; public announcement that you're not welcome. WTH![/QUOTE]Nick, thanks for the report, especially on PP Massage since I've been meaning to check it out again.
You can get plenty of nice hotels around Pattaya for under 2200 baht. Camelot rooms should run under 1200 baht taxes included.
How many guys were in your group that was rejected entry into the gogo bars? Surprised to hear this since some of the gogo bars are completely empty of customers this past week. Sorry to hear about your poor experience.
News mentions that the guy who mowed down a ton of people in front of Tukcom the other day was the owner of a Walking Street bar. Does anyone know which bar?
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113434]Which is why in Pattaya I stick to the discos, arrive after 1 pm and p / u after 2/3 am. And try to find good solid 6. 5 and 7's. I dont succeed all the time !!! However, since I stay for a only or longer I am quite patient. Of course, YMMV will surely vary if you are under 35 and have looks and game.[/QUOTE]I'm 45 and went to iBar and Insomnia a couple times last week with BM Amex. Most of the chicks that I talked to wanted 2K off the bat (like Haven I only do LT from the discos). So for a guy willing to pay that much that place should be a goldmine. Myself, if I can't get them down to at least 1,200 then I find one that I can. The only problem is that many times if a girl is with a group of friends then she tends to want to party a while. But if you see her alone or with only 1 other friend she will more than likely be ready to go right then if you tell her.
[QUOTE=NickMehta;2113393]Got the hotel cheap at around 2200 baht a night. However, the rooms are damp, musty and stinky.[/QUOTE]That's an awful lot for an hotel in Pattaya. There are discounted two-bedroom villa around the same price. Get an high-rated Hotel or serviced apart around Pattaya Klang, Pattaya Nua, or just across Sukhumvhit for about 700 Baht. Add 150 a day for a motorbike rental and you will be on WS in 3 minutes, and off the hands of motorbike Taxis.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113567]The only problem is that many times if a girl is with a group of friends then she tends to want to party a while. But if you see her alone or with only 1 other friend she will more than likely be ready to go right then if you tell her.[/QUOTE]This is another one of the many strange things that happen to us the disco punters. At the beginning it gave on my balls a lot, now I've learned to use it a my own advantage, meaning that it allows me to collect more signals. When a girl agrees on a price, and then drags her feet to leave, you're being manipulated. The most likely reason is that she's not drunk enough to be eager to jump in bed "early" with a guy twice her age. She may think that the earlier it starts, the longer the romp, now as we know is not like Thai women are champion of sex endurance. Another reason is to get you for drinks to her and all her friends (which you will be prohibited to fuck at any time in the future), which will thank you at most with a smile. But since you may like the girl or OK with partying on for a while, my suggestion is to take it easy, politely decline to pay for her friend's drinks, have a dance or two, feel her body, smell and attitude. If these don't seem right, and after a reasonable time she's still recalcitrant you better move on, a biatch in dance hall in the room doesn't treat you well (famous Thai proverb).
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113567]I'm 45 and went to iBar and Insomnia a couple times last week with BM Amex. Most of the chicks that I talked to wanted 2K off the bat (like Haven I only do LT from the discos). So for a guy willing to pay that much that place should be a goldmine. Myself, if I can't get them down to at least 1,200 then I find one that I can. The only problem is that many times if a girl is with a group of friends then she tends to want to party a while. But if you see her alone or with only 1 other friend she will more than likely be ready to go right then if you tell her.[/QUOTE]LOL, I am quite a bit older than you Mr. Ent. I roll quite differently, probably to the point of being weird (from fhe POV of most guys on this board) .
But, I am disciplined when at Insomnia. I avoid regulars, obvious go go girls who are there to unwind, or Soi 6 girls. I too avoid girls in groups. And I avoid 9's and 10's (although I think I've only seen 2 10's there over several months.). And, I usually never get there before 1230 and usually stay until at least 4/5 am.
Remember I usually stay for at least 1 month. So, I am never in a hurry and I am very patient. And, I am fairly good observer and analyzer of people (I think).
And since I am quite picky, when I find one I like I usually hang with them for 3-4 days. So, I am on the opposite end of the spectrum from someone who likes go go girls or Soi 6 girls. I am not interested in doing many, just a few that I like for several days each. So, my goals are quite different. I am looking for girls I would like to be with for several days. The key question being would I want to be with this chic for several days and nights. I would not recommend my approach to anyone else, cause it is quite off the Wall.
I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month. I doubt too many other guys would have any interest in such an approach in Pattaya of all places. And all focused on Insomnia pretty much all the time.
However, specialization has its advantages. Learning and iterative approaches for 1 whole month allows me to focus on one set-up / design and location.... and most importantly enjoy the music, dancing and the ambiance. Cest la vie. Sometimes I get lucky and many nights I leave alone! I never ever settle. LOL.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2112718]
This was with a Red Car lady that I didn't see before, Dao, pretty face on a solid (not fat) body. She have man made hard boobs which do nothing for me. [/QUOTE]That is what I meant. She sent these as good morning, without a comment.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2113283]How many you guys try room service? My hotel has the best food / prices I've seen anywhere at 115 baht for Thai dish with rice. Quality and quantity of the food is really good. A great surprise.[/QUOTE]I concur, hotel food can be surprisingly good at reasonable prices (compared to tourist places anyway). But not in every hotel and not all the time in my experience. Depends on the cook who is on duty I suppose.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2113285]Try getting a testosterone shot at one of the clinics. They are 400 baht. Did wonders for me they take a week or two to kick in so get it when you get here. I have same problem especially after being here a couple of weeks. Try putting some lube on your cock before putting the condom on and no it won't come off just don't do the base.[/QUOTE]Any clinic will do or any recommendation? Do they perform a blood test to specify the amount of testosterone or one size fits all? It is only one shot, nothing else? Do you need an appointment, or do you just come in: "I want testosterone" and 5 minutes later it is over?
Sitting at the pool now, recovering from one of the top 5 sessions of my life last night. Met a bar girl from soi 7, we had some drinks together, played a few games and then I barfined her. 2000 LT. She is not the youngest or most beautiful, more the girl next door type, but easy on the eyes.
Back in my room it turned out she is an addict to DFK, just what I like. BBBJ, open for all positions and she needed it herself, as far as I can tell. She was insatiable. The big advantage when youself need a very long time to come: you can make the girl come several times. A nice reward for the ego. Finally she made me come with a HJ. Exhausted we fell asleep.
The next morning we started where we had stopped last night. A very memorable session and once again proof to my theory that the best looking girls are not the best performers.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2113651]Any clinic will do or any recommendation? Do they perform a blood test to specify the amount of testosterone or one size fits all? It is only one shot, nothing else? Do you need an appointment, or do you just come in: "I want testosterone" and 5 minutes later it is over?[/QUOTE]Here a clinic in the corner with Pattaya Klang and 3rd Road [URL]http://maximumclinic-pattaya.business.site/[/URL].
Looking forward to read your rest of the trip reports as well.
Until Thais learn to differentiate the few good eggs vs the mostly bad eggs, it will be a tough time for Indians because of the stereotyping. Or maybe they don't want to see the difference. Hopefully the blanket ban from clubs like Baccarra, Peppermint and Sensations does not spread to other gogos and soapies but for how long I wonder having seen the hordes in person.
Funny thing, the bouncer at Peppermint said members only and I asked with a smile. Can I become one? And he pointed out at the Indian restaurant right across the street and said 'member there'. Oh well! He is well trained.
We had a good time at CH and Windmill but only got inside after we acknowledged the mandatory drink purchase which is not bad really since you need a beer anyways. Who goes to a strip club and does not buy beer? That says a lot about my compatriots.
That particular night CH had lot of average girls and 2 very hot girls. Windmill had a younger crop of which about half were better than average looking. Living dolls had about a dozen average looking ones with zero customers inside except us and after a drink we came back to CH and I barfined one of the hotties, the other was gone by then.
[QUOTE=NickMehta;2113393]Just back from a fantastic 5 day trip to LOS. Hope this helps someone!
Day 1.
Landed at Bangkok after a bumpy red-eye flight from Mumbai. Immigration lines weren't long, and I was fortunate to get the faster immigration officer. A few friends, in another queue, got the patient officer, who was rationing the passengers at snails pace. They only came through after I had collected the bags, and made my way back near immigration counters! 3 people in 20 minutes! Must be some record!
Ride to Pattaya (pre-booked cab) was also late. And, all 5 dudes were tired and hungry after waiting another 30 minutes. Would this be one of those forgettable trips? (Spoiler alert: it wasn't).
We were put up at the Camelot, being close to Walking Street was a good idea. Got the hotel cheap at around 2200 baht a night. However, the rooms are damp, musty and stinky. It's an older property, and needs an overhaul to keep with the times. It is frequently by the group tours, where an overnight stay does no harm to it's reputation. Would not recommend. Surprisingly, saw many Russian (or maybe, Uzbek) gals staying there. Course, Indian dudes would never get a second look from them, sigh!
Our first destination for the evening was the soapy massage places; one member of the group was a Thailand virgin, and we wanted him to have a guaranteed start! We dropped in at Honey 2 to start with. On my previous trip, this had been the best of the lot. Choices start at 2500, all the way upto 4000 baht. However, virgin dude was uncertain, and we decided to hop over to the other soapies, and check out the options. (Quick tip: Baht bus will drop you off free; they make 50/100 bucks for each customer they bring in. Your hand is marked when you enter). Anyway, off to Rasputin next, which usually has a bevy of beauties. Rasputin had a similar range - 2500,3000, 3500 and then a jump to 5000 - the models (who were really hot, BTW). Going with the flow we then went to PP Massage (nothing worth checking out here), and finally to Honey1.
I picked Tuktuk in Honey1 (# M106), and she was a good pick. Tall, shapely, big boobs (enhanced, but very well done). She was friendly, and chatted me up to the room. The soapy massage was phenomenal, Tuktuk took great care of every part of me. The usual - "you so big" comment was laughable though. Unfortunately, the sex was a bit of a let down though and got very mechanical. I take time cuming, and the mechanical nature was just a turn off. Tuktuk offered an extended HJ, but the damage was done.
We went over to Walking Street much later in the night; was probably 11 when we got there. Tried to get into some of the go-go clubs and were basically turned down (who needs a decent group of Indian dudes, yech! The worst reaction is when the folks at the door cross their arms as you get closer to the club; public announcement that you're not welcome. WTH!
Anyway, Insomnia was welcoming, and we dove in to get our drinks. Crowded as usual. Love the vibe and energy. Lots of great looking gals as well. We had to leave, as there was no place to stand, let alone sit. So, crossed the street to Hot Tuna Bar, which had a live band in action. The music was great (I forget the name of the band though), and we chorused our way through a few drinks.
Exhauted, and yet somehow not so, we headed back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]
"I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month".
I hope to do 6-8 girls per day! But thanks for the insight into Insomnia.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2113544]News mentions that the guy who mowed down a ton of people in front of Tukcom the other day was the owner of a Walking Street bar. Does anyone know which bar?[/QUOTE][URL]http://pattayaone.news/en/cost-drug-addiction-affected-pattaya-driver/[/URL]
JPs Bar is located on Soi Lucky.
[QUOTE=HectorG;2113724]"I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month".
I hope to do 6-8 girls per day! But thanks for the insight into Insomnia.[/QUOTE]Haha! You the man! I've never in my life (even as a teenager or when in my 20's) been able to come 6 tunes in a day! So.
Hats off to you! Very impressive!
At this point in my life I like to keep girls I like for 3-4 days or even 10 days. Last time in Pattaya, a girl in her mid 20's who I had originally met at Insomnia (an ex go go girl) and who had returned home to her family farm in Isaan took an overnight bus to come stay with me for 10 days, with no talk ever about money. Thai girls are very different if they are with you for days on end. And we'd still go party at Insomnia and do lots of other stuff together. And every time she went to the ladies room guys would hit on her because she was an 8.
The point being: not every single person on this board is looking ring up quantity / numbers and just sex. Although I'm not looking for a GF or any long term relationship. Just an extended GFE with girls who are pleasant to be with and have some degree of grace and class to be able to hang with them for several days. Most of them then want more. Like a real relationship and then I tell them no can do since I spend about 6 months a year traveling globally just for fun and pleasure (and the rest in the USA). And sometimes , like right now in the DR where I am , same thing . And I take one of my girls Id already met on a prior trip to an all inclusive resort for 3-5 days. Just like I am doing tomorrow when I will be checking in at a real nice all inclusive resort in Punta Cana. I might do the same on my upcoming Pattaya trip and hit an inclusive resort in Koh Chang for say 4 nights with one of the girls ...
There are many ways to have fun and enjoy life in its entirety or multi-dimensionally ( for those that like or want that ) ....
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]Looking forward to read your rest of the trip reports as well.[/QUOTE]I'll write up the best moments for sure; soon!
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]Until Thais learn to differentiate the few good eggs vs the mostly bad eggs, it will be a tough time for Indians because of the stereotyping. [/QUOTE]And, I don't blame them. We Indians have done ourselves no favors. Just expected that a few well dressed Indians may have been treated differently.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]We had a good time at CH and Windmill..[/QUOTE]Hmm. We were turned down at Windmill as well. Maybe the weekend rush.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2113575]That's an awful lot for an hotel in Pattaya. There are discounted two-bedroom villa around the same price. Get an high-rated Hotel or serviced apart around Pattaya Klang, Pattaya Nua, or just across Sukhumvhit for about 700 Baht. Add 150 a day for a motorbike rental and you will be on WS in 3 minutes, and off the hands of motorbike Taxis.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2113468]Nick, thanks for the report, especially on PP Massage since I've been meaning to check it out again.
You can get plenty of nice hotels around Pattaya for under 2200 baht. Camelot rooms should run under 1200 baht taxes included. [/QUOTE]That's what it's worth, around a 1000 baht. Unfortunately, we had booked online before we got here. Cancelling and re-booking would've been a pain.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2113468]How many guys were in your group that was rejected entry into the gogo bars? Surprised to hear this since some of the gogo bars are completely empty of customers this past week. Sorry to hear about your poor experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.
[QUOTE=NickMehta;2113831]I'll write up the best moments for sure; soon!
And, I don't blame them. We Indians have done ourselves no favors. Just expected that a few well dressed Indians may have been treated differently.
Hmm. We were turned down at Windmill as well. Maybe the weekend rush.
Thanks for the tip!
That's what it's worth, around a 1000 baht. Unfortunately, we had booked online before we got here. Cancelling and re-booking would've been a pain.
Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.[/QUOTE]I too feel for you guys. You seem like decent folks with good money to spend. Did you guys try the LK metro area bars?
Some of you may know folks who have the ability to just buy out some of the walking street bars? I think then the others will think twice.
I guess complaining to the Indian Embassy in BKK or writing to the Prime Ministers office. About the discrimination. Is out the question? 😈.
And I suppose you can't deny Thais access to the go go bars in India? 😂.
Sorry, seeing that you guys at least aren't up in arms about it, I thought I'the try to make light of the situation. Next time approach the bars with each of you waving 30 k baht, in each of your hands, as you are about to enter. Seriously. Heck it's just $600 .
If it's any consolation, I've been turned away from clubs in NYC (when I was in my 20's and worked in Wall St and went wearing a pin stripe suit (because I was not good looking enough and did not have a girl (they try to manage the guy- girl ratio) and last month in Madrid, Spain, because, I think, of my age (both places also had a significant cover charge to enter). But I found another that was no 2 in Madrid that let me in with a promo coupon! So, you are not alone! Go to Brazil man. Or Colombia.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]Hopefully the blanket ban from clubs like Baccarra, Peppermint and Sensations does not spread to other gogos and soapies but for how long I wonder having seen the hordes in person.[/QUOTE]Aren't these the same clubs that caters to Japanese (i don't know, i eschew them all). In that case it could be their customers indirectly causing the discrimination, not the whim of some Thai. Anyway, if you go back few pages there are the postings about white guys being ignored by stuck up biatches that prefer Japanese or Korean men because they pay more and fuck less. So better to have stayed out, spared the frustration and not have dropped a dime in these places.
To tell the opposite type of attitude, early hours today (it was really a slow night everywhere) I watched a cutie with great legs decline a couple of guys in Red Car. So I went to her and joked about that, she said it was because their opening line was "how much", which she dislikes and I agree that is so stupid and unnecessary. Some men can't tell the game difference between a disco and Soi 6, and much less between women in the same place. Another good thing about Red Car is drink prices, compare 110 baht to 160 in Lucifer, and no discount card BS. We then had dinner in a bagarid restaurant which I've mentioned before, then to my room. She was sweet and aroused, perhaps we had not the greatest of chemistry (but we both enjoyed a long pumping doggie style) or we were both tired, so we fell asleep and skipped the morning shag, that's OK even if not recommended, just like skipping breakfast. Around 10 am she left, I gave her 1 K and a ride to the nearest mototaxi stand. No money or time commitment had been mentioned before, all happened with the most friendliness, like it should be even when the experience is not stellar.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113609]LOL, I am quite a bit older than you Mr. Ent. I roll quite differently, probably to the point of being weird (from fhe POV of most guys on this board) .
But, I am disciplined when at Insomnia. I avoid regulars, obvious go go girls who are there to unwind, or Soi 6 girls. I too avoid girls in groups. And I avoid 9's and 10's (although I think I've only seen 2 10's there over several months.). And, I usually never get there before 1230 and usually stay until at least 4/5 am.
Remember I usually stay for at least 1 month. So, I am never in a hurry and I am very patient. And, I am fairly good observer and analyzer of people (I think).
And since I am quite picky, when I find one I like I usually hang with them for 3-4 days. So, I am on the opposite end of the spectrum from someone who likes go go girls or Soi 6 girls. I am not interested in doing many, just a few that I like for several days each. So, my goals are quite different. I am looking for girls I would like to be with for several days. The key question being would I want to be with this chic for several days and nights. I would not recommend my approach to anyone else, cause it is quite off the Wall.
I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month. I doubt too many other guys would have any interest in such an approach in Pattaya of all places. And all focused on Insomnia pretty much all the time.
However, specialization has its advantages. Learning and iterative approaches for 1 whole month allows me to focus on one set-up / design and location.... and most importantly enjoy the music, dancing and the ambiance. Cest la vie. Sometimes I get lucky and many nights I leave alone! I never ever settle. LOL.[/QUOTE]Enjoyed reading your post. We all look for different things when on tour. I try to do all that is on offer, clubs, bars, Soi 6, soaps, gogos. My last trip to Pattaya I mixed numbers with seeing one girl 4 times. However I also have done the 3 full days with a girl as well as taking girls to a resort at other times. All offer something different and that adds to the fun of the tour. I have been touring for many years in a lot of places and the girls faces and names have all faded over time. But the good thing about places like Pattaya is that there are options for everyone at different price points and quality. We are all different as are the girls so whatever works for us is our business. Some of us like the numbers game and some like a more relaxed pace. Vive LE difference!
Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2113943]Aren't these the same clubs that caters to Japanese (i don't know, i eschew them all). In that case it could be their customers indirectly causing the discrimination, not the whim of some Thai.[/QUOTE]IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.
A few weeks ago, I entered Baccarra twice on 2 different nights. There was absolutely no seats available on the first level. I left; didn't want to go upstairs.
I also went to Sensations once. It was packed. I was placed next to an existing customer at a table.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2114002]IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.
A few weeks ago, I entered Baccarra twice on 2 different nights. There was absolutely no seats available on the first level. I left; didn't want to go upstairs.
I also went to Sensations once. It was packed. I was placed next to an existing customer at a table.[/QUOTE]Discrimination against Indians and other dark-skinned South Asians is well covered as it relates to the clubs. Another layer is that many of the best girls don't want to go with Indian customers because of either bad prior experiences (probably just a few bad apples) or heard rumors from their friends. I found out most of this relates to the belief that they smell bad, no matter how many showers they take. Why take the risk and lose face with among their friends when there is always another Japanese customer waiting.
A new negative bias I uncovered is that many of the girls now absolutely hate Korean men from Korea. Apparently they have a reputation of (1) refusing to pay if they don't finish but go over an agreed ST limit, and (2) are very rough in bed with excessive hair-pulling, spanking, etc. This view was confirmed by several girls across GoGos, soapies, Thermae, and clubs.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113799]my upcoming Pattaya trip and hit an inclusive resort in Koh Chang for say 4 nights with one of the girls ...
There are many ways to have fun and enjoy life in its entirety or multi-dimensionally ( for those that like or want that )..[/QUOTE]Inclusive resort in Thailand? Do tell. I'm familiar with Black Beards. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2113651]Any clinic will do or any recommendation? Do they perform a blood test to specify the amount of testosterone or one size fits all? It is only one shot, nothing else? Do you need an appointment, or do you just come in: "I want testosterone" and 5 minutes later it is over?[/QUOTE]Yes you can just walk in and ask for shot then go lie down and get it. The shot is 250 MG and I'd think one shot would be 99.99% safe I'd get my blood checked after the fourth one or I started getting aggressive / angry / wound up which are all sign of too much testosterone. And for long term I'd definitely get a Dr involved. I do TRT its a life changer if you need it.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2114050]Inclusive resort in Thailand? Do tell. I'm familiar with Black Beards. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry! My bad! The inclusive resort I am going to today is in Punta Caña.
I am not aware of any similar resorts in Koh Chang or Thailand.
I'm starting to feel sorry for the chicks around here. Maybe they don't feel sorry for themselves or maybe they are just plain used to it. Perusing the dating sites and seeing how many chicks have to put something to the effect of 100% lady, not a ladyboy, etc must suck. Imagine if you had to go around all the time and try to convince people that you are actually a man. Why did the tricksters have to saddle them with that burden.
Last week I was having dinner with some friends and one mentioned a place on LK Metro that was not to his liking and that he would never go to again. I could not wait to check it out. As soon as we finished eating, I drove directly there. I sat down and ordered my usual Sangsom with ice. A chick came up and forced herself on me. She was the kind of chicks that many on this forum rave about. Light skin, tall, rail thin, A cups, 22 years old, no kid. She asked me to buy her a drink but I told her no. I told her that I wanted to see her dance (not really dance, but work out on the pole and rings that they have on the stage). She said her turn would be next. I told her that I would get her a drink after she got finished dancing. True to my word, I bought her a drink when her 3 songs or whatever was over. After I finished my drink, I told her that I was leaving but would like to see her one day, so she gave me her Line ID.
Yesterday I got back from Phuket and hit her up rather late. She lives kind of far from me but said she would be right over. Man that chick got here in 8 minutes flat. Right before she came my security guy had brought my laundry up from out the dryer and I told him that I had a lady on the way and to let her in downstairs. (I give him 500 baht everytime I leave the country so he is constantly breaking his neck trying to help me even when I do not want.) It was 3:45 am.
As soon as she came through the door she started putting away my laundry. (I once picked up a chick that had took the bus down from Bangkok to see me and asked her to help me put my laundry away and she cursed me the fuck out and left!) She was all so happy to do it. This chick has a great personality.
So fast forward to this afternoon about 12 something we get up and do our thing again and she takes a shower. While she is in the bathroom I went to my stash and saw that I had 2100 baht on hand. I separated 1100 out for her. When I came out of the shower she had made the bed and everything. We were getting ready to walk out when she asked for money saying that she needed to pay for her room. I handed her the 1100 and she looked at it and said this is not good, can you give me 2000? I said nope. Then she hugged me and was all lovey dovey as we walked out. She offered me a ride to where ever I was going not knowing I had my own bike. She told me that she hopes to see me soon.
I understand there are different strokes for different folks, but I am not understanding the "premium" title put on chicks with her description. To me it was just like fucking any other chick, but probably worse because of those hard bones that are banging against you in certain places.
Our trip was too short to try all the gogos, next time we will.
No need to show off with currency, that's why we have Lacoste and RL right? I mean cmon guys, if you can't differentiate someone wearing a $90 polo speaking fluent English with an American accent from a tobacco spitting guy wearing walmart crew necks and can't speak a word of English, I don't buy it. They must be both blind and deaf to not see the difference. This is plain old vanilla racism.
This is why I really feel the Thai govt needs to stop giving visa on arrival to every swinging dick from India. Do you want 10 guys each spending 10 k baht a day or 100 guys spending 1 k baht each? Looks like someone made a wise decision to go for the latter.
We never could spend the money even if we wanted. How can you if you can't even get inside the best gogo bars and bar fine top talent?
I am not the guy who gets turned on by hate fucking a disinterested soapies chick so I settled with someone who showed interest even though she was not the model type.
Not beating a dead horse anymore. Time to stop whining. It is what it is.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113900]I too feel for you guys. You seem like decent folks with good money to spend. Did you guys try the LK metro area bars?
Some of you may know folks who have the ability to just buy out some of the walking street bars? I think then the others will think twice.
I guess complaining to the Indian Embassy in BKK or writing to the Prime Ministers office. About the discrimination. Is out the question? 😈.
And I suppose you can't deny Thais access to the go go bars in India? 😂.
Sorry, seeing that you guys at least aren't up in arms about it, I thought I'the try to make light of the situation. Next time approach the bars with each of you waving 30 k baht, in each of your hands, as you are about to enter. Seriously. Heck it's just $600 .
If it's any consolation, I've been turned away from clubs in NYC (when I was in my 20's and worked in Wall St and went wearing a pin stripe suit (because I was not good looking enough and did not have a girl (they try to manage the guy- girl ratio) and last month in Madrid, Spain, because, I think, of my age (both places also had a significant cover charge to enter). But I found another that was no 2 in Madrid that let me in with a promo coupon! So, you are not alone! Go to Brazil man. Or Colombia.[/QUOTE]
How many here witnessed it? I am sure the regulars have seen it quite a few times. The bell ringing and all the girls are tapping on everything they could. It was really LOUD and the girls were dead serious going about it. What exactly are their trying to do? Later when I asked my barfine she said it was a lucky prayer being performed for a good nights business and they do it daily in the earlier part of the night.
I was flabbergasted and never in a million years I would have imagined prayers being offered inside a strip club.
Hi fellow ISG mongers,
I'll be in Pattaya from 3-6 February.
Can someone please suggest some good soapies out there?
I could gather from NickMehta's first report that:
Honey1.
Honey2.
Rasputin.
These were few good ones. Can I get some more options?
Also, where can I get some Russian / Uzbek action?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114093]
I understand there are different strokes for different folks, but I am not understanding the "premium" title put on chicks with her description. To me it was just like fucking any other chick, but probably worse because of those hard bones that are banging against you in certain places.[/QUOTE]Mr. E! Tell it man! This is the reality that I know too. Just maybe not as well as you do it.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2114261]Our trip was too short to try all the gogos, next time we will.
No need to show off with currency, that's why we have Lacoste and RL right? I mean cmon guys, if you can't differentiate someone wearing a $90 polo speaking fluent English with an American accent from a tobacco spitting guy wearing walmart crew necks and can't speak a word of English, I don't buy it. They must be both blind and deaf to not see the difference. This is plain old vanilla racism.
This is why I really feel the Thai govt needs to stop giving visa on arrival to every swinging dick from India. Do you want 10 guys each spending 10 k baht a day or 100 guys spending 1 k baht each? Looks like someone made a wise decision to go for the latter.
We never could spend the money even if we wanted. How can you if you can't even get inside the best gogo bars and bar fine top talent?
I am not the guy who gets turned on by hate fucking a disinterested soapies chick so I settled with someone who showed interest even though she was not the model type.
Not beating a dead horse anymore. Time to stop whining. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]Ok, I thought you were smart but now I think you are.
Naive!
1. No guy at a Go Go door can tell the difference between a real vs Fake RL or La Coste or any other brand.
2. They can't look at you and then reconcile a real American accent. Cognitive dissonance. Education and background of guys at a Go Go door. Not same as yours ! That's naive
3. Thai govt is not going to change visa on arrival decision based on how much a guy spends on a Pattaya trip vs businessmen or the lots of Indian weddings taking place in Thailand. The numbers man. ! You have got to know the numbers and stats and economy impact! I thought you were smart ? Money involved in Pattaya vs export / import and cross border flows and investment in all of Thailand is dollars vs nickels . You are stuck in the trees and can't see the forest. Don't take a job in macroeconomics! Or investment banking !
Racism yes! But only in Pattaya go go bars.
I still say if you have the moola flaunt it. Just like I tell girls if you have the looks and body flaunt it! It does not last long. Poof.
And it's gone!
Money always talks and BS walks. I think you talk a great game and then stay at BS places. Five of you in 2 rooms? Or.
Maybe 1 and hence the price? I dunno but if you have the moolah act like it and flaunt it!
[QUOTE=NickMehta;2113831]Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.[/QUOTE]Why not go in as a group of 2, then have another 2 come in after. In the meantime, they can scout another bar which may be better.
[QUOTE=NRock;2114040]Discrimination against Indians and other dark-skinned South Asians is well covered as it relates to the clubs. Another layer is that many of the best girls don't want to go with Indian customers because of either bad prior experiences (probably just a few bad apples) or heard rumors from their friends. I found out most of this relates to the belief that they smell bad, no matter how many showers they take. Why take the risk and lose face with among their friends when there is always another Japanese customer waiting.[/QUOTE]
Anyone who has been in Pattaya long enough has seen this. 2 Indian men riding home on the baht bus with one Indian man saying how he is going to fuck the Thai girl good after his buddy. The girls always look at me to save her.
Personally I've never had an issue getting an Indian man into any gogo bar when they are with me.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2114267] The bell ringing and all the girls are tapping on everything they could. It was really LOUD and the girls were dead serious going about it. What exactly are their trying to do? Later when I asked my barfine she said it was a lucky prayer being performed for a good nights business and they do it daily in the earlier part of the night.
[/QUOTE]
This happens every night at every gogo bar.
[QUOTE=NRock;2114040]A new negative bias I uncovered is that many of the girls now absolutely hate Korean men from Korea. Apparently they have a reputation of (1) refusing to pay if they don't finish but go over an agreed ST limit, and (2) are very rough in bed with excessive hair-pulling, spanking, etc. This view was confirmed by several girls across GoGos, soapies, Thermae, and clubs.[/QUOTE]
Fantastic news. Let's get those Koreans out of here!
Last night I went to an open air bar on Soi 7. It was on the left side and one of the last bars before Tequila Reef. There were some pretty nice chicks there and a couple of them did not even have tattoos. Out of curiosity I asked about the prices. Barfine 1000, LT 3000, ST 2000, but the girl said she would come ST with me for 1000. May the monger gods be with you barfine guys.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2114002]IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.[/QUOTE]Better to not get in rather than be shunned by a bunch of girls who don't want you there. I know a couple of my girls who's face cringe whenever they see a black man or Indian man walk into a gogo bar. Girls have chosen their location of employment based on the clientele. On Walking Street, farang are preferred at the Windmill group, Sapphire, Skyfall, Iron, Taboo, Bliss, Mandarin, Living Dolls, Angelwitch, Crazy House. Farang are also preferred at all LK Metro gogo bars except maybe Ninja.
[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2114280]
Can someone please suggest some good soapies out there?
Also, where can I get some Russian / Uzbek action?[/QUOTE]
Honey 2, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, and Rasputin are all about a 5 minute walk from one another. Rasputin has Russian girls but be ready to pay through the nose and get even more lame mechanical service than a Thai girl.
Honey 1 on Soi Honey is another one.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114701]Last night I went to an open air bar on Soi 7. It was on the left side and one of the last bars before Tequila Reef. There were some pretty nice chicks there and a couple of them did not even have tattoos. Out of curiosity I asked about the prices. Barfine 1000, LT 3000, ST 2000, but the girl said she would come ST with me for 1000. May the monger gods be with you barfine guys.[/QUOTE]Man these prices are high. Contrast this with my favourite bar. The Bamboo Bar. It's full of freelancers and cost is Barfine zero, ST 1000 and LT 2000. Never had problems with the girls and I see many on a regular basis.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2113615]That is what I meant. She sent these as good morning, without a comment.[/QUOTE]Nice bod on that one my friend.
I don't mind the Sillies at all. And the caboose is very appealing. Well done!
I hear you man, but if showing a wad of bills can magically open the doors to Peppermint, Bacarra and Sensations it seems a bit far fetched. If spending is an issue they should have simply asked us to buy the mandatory drinks at entrance like CH and peppered us for LDs which we also obliged. Same at Windmill. Win win scenario for both sides. No need for micro and macro economics to understand this, it's just common sense.
Instead an outright ban means exactly the opposite that regardless of your intention or means to spend you are not welcome.
May be I am naive, no loss in trying your suggestion anyways. Always looking for a different perspective. Will share the result.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2114359]Ok, I thought you were smart but now I think you are.
Naive!
1. No guy at a Go Go door can tell the difference between a real vs Fake RL or La Coste or any other brand.
2. They can't look at you and then reconcile a real American accent. Cognitive dissonance. Education and background of guys at a Go Go door. Not same as yours ! That's naive
3. Thai govt is not going to change visa on arrival decision based on how much a guy spends on a Pattaya trip vs businessmen or the lots of Indian weddings taking place in Thailand. The numbers man. ! You have got to know the numbers and stats and economy impact! I thought you were smart ? Money involved in Pattaya vs export / import and cross border flows and investment in all of Thailand is dollars vs nickels . You are stuck in the trees and can't see the forest. Don't take a job in macroeconomics! Or investment banking !
Racism yes! But only in Pattaya go go bars.
I still say if you have the moola flaunt it. Just like I tell girls if you have the looks and body flaunt it! It does not last long. Poof.
And it's gone!
Money always talks and BS walks. I think you talk a great game and then stay at BS places. Five of you in 2 rooms? Or.
Maybe 1 and hence the price? I dunno but if you have the moolah act like it and flaunt it![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TakeCareYou;2114768]Man these prices are high. Contrast this with my favourite bar. The Bamboo Bar. It's full of freelancers and cost is Barfine zero, ST 1000 and LT 2000. Never had problems with the girls and I see many on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]Sounded good, so I looked it up on Facebook.
1. In Naklua, right?
2. Saw the pics of girls working there and some of the free 😂 lancers? I can't see myself being interested in any of the ' lancers even if they were free! 🤔
Hopefully you had better ones?
[QUOTE=Haven123;2114838]Sounded good, so I looked it up on Facebook.
1. In Naklua, right?
2. Saw the pics of girls working there and some of the free 😂 lancers? I can't see myself being interested in any of the ' lancers even if they were free! 🤔
Hopefully you had better ones?[/QUOTE]Bamboo is on Pattaya Tai right before the entrance of Walking Street. It is pretty much older women. I would say 35 and up. The waiters literally chase you around and hound you to buy drinks. Once I bought a club soda and the ice in the glass finished while I still had half bottle of soda. I ask for more ice and lime and they refused. At first I thought they were joking. Turned out they were dead serious. I said I would never set foot in that place again.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114846]Bamboo is on Pattaya Tai right before the entrance of Walking Street. It is pretty much older women. I would say 35 and up. The waiters literally chase you around and hound you to buy drinks. Once I bought a club soda and the ice in the glass finished while I still had half bottle of soda. I ask for more ice and lime and they refused. At first I thought they were joking. Turned out they were dead serious. I said I would never set foot in that place again.[/QUOTE]Wow! How does a place like that survive?
My experience with beer bars is largely on 2nd Road near Central F and also across Mike s mall. And I tried several and they were all great from a customer service. Girls? Not so much. But, but got lucky once with 2 visitor girls, freelancers while trying my hand at pool (I suck) and one of them worked at a legit massage place. She was hot. And another time with a tiny weenie box bar with 2 girls and one good one a cousin of the owner lady and she was visiting from another town. Sum total of.
My luck with beer bars after total time I put in of about 15 hours over 3-4 different days. IMO, it's all pure luck, coincidence, timing etc. But best to go real early or after 12 when freelancers arrive to unwind after their regular jobs and you buy them drinks and play pool etc. But my experience inventory is small and not a valid statistical sample size.
Hi guys!
This year, I made my first trip to Thailand. I spent there 1 month. Unfortunately, I didn't know much about places worth to visit. Now, when I 'educate myself' about 'Thai market' I find out, I made many of amateur mistakes during my trip, for example:
1. I paid to much for the service:
- each time I went to massage salon (with happy end), I paid 1000 THB at start (for massage) and extra 1000 THB for blowjob and another extra 1000 THB for short time- 3000 THB in total.
- once I listened to taxi driver who offered me to drive to company with girls to bring girl to my hotel, it supposed to be 2500 BHT for all night. In the end I paid (good looking girl but not the top) 3000 BHT in the company and in my hotel girl said. Taxi driver lied to me. This 3000 BHT was for short time. Not for long time. So I paid her 2000 BHT extra to stay till the morning. In the end I paid 5000 BHT for long time with cute, good looking girl, but not a porn star.
2. I ' liked ' first girl that I met there and spent with her all of my travel (the girl from company that I paid 5000 THB) . Good thing is I had sex for free till the end of my travel. Bad thing is, I should enjoy my travel with many different girls, not stay with just one, girl put her charm on me and I forgot what was my goal to come there (have fun with many girls around) .
So, I made simple mistakes of 'newbie ' in Thailand. I ' lost my head ' to first good looking, charmy girl that I met there and I overpaid for a service anywhere I went to.
Now, I'm planning my second trip, I ' educate myself ' looking for places worth to visit.
I can spend there only 1 month in 1 year. So next time I don't want to lose my time there. Don't want to stay with just 1 girl and don't want to pick up just avarege girls.
And now, question to more experience guys on that forum:
Which places are worth to visit? I'm thinking about Bangkok and Pattaya. I know main areas (Bangkok. Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza. Pattaya. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro). I'm asking for recommendation of specific places.
Can you please writte names of good a go go clubs / bars / massage / soapy massage?
I'm looking for good looking girls with good service. My budget for a day is 5000 THB.
Thanks a lot!
[QUOTE=ThaiMat85;2114923]
Which places are worth to visit? I'm thinking about Bangkok and Pattaya. I know main areas (Bangkok. Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza. Pattaya. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro). I'm asking for recommendation of specific places.
Can you please writte names of good a go go clubs / bars / massage / soapy massage?
I'm looking for good looking girls with good service. My budget for a day is 5000 THB.
[/QUOTE]I'd hit Patpong over Nana or Cowboy. The girls are friendly like they are in Pattaya and the ladyboys are kept to their own bars.
I'll get flack from the penny pinchers on here but 5000 is definitely not enough of a budget for 1 day, especially if you want to pick up a top gogo girl in Pattaya. 3 or 4 ladydrinks at 200-240 baht each to make sure she's the one you want, most barfines now at 2000 (Thanks Mr. Korea and Mr. Japan), 3000 short time and 5000 long time. I've read on here some being quoted even higher prices.
5000 is doable if you stick to Soi 6. For 3 ladies, 3 ladydrinks at around 140 baht, 3 barfines at 350 baht, plus 1000 to each of 3 ladies. Total 4770.
Also consider the gentleman's clubs in Pattaya.
Soapies. If you've done one, End if there. The next one and the next one after that will be forgettable no matter how hot the girl is.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2114998]I'd hit Patpong over Nana or Cowboy. The girls are friendly like they are in Pattaya and the ladyboys are kept to their own bars.
I'll get flack from the penny pinchers on here but 5000 is definitely not enough of a budget for 1 day, especially if you want to pick up a top gogo girl in Pattaya. 3 or 4 ladydrinks at 200-240 baht each to make sure she's the one you want, most barfines now at 2000 (Thanks Mr. Korea and Mr. Japan), 3000 short time and 5000 long time. I've read on here some being quoted even higher prices.
5000 is doable if you stick to Soi 6. For 3 ladies, 3 ladydrinks at around 140 baht, 3 barfines at 350 baht, plus 1000 to each of 3 ladies. Total 4770.
Also consider the gentleman's clubs in Pattaya.
Soapies. If you've done one, End if there. The next one and the next one after that will be forgettable no matter how hot the girl is.[/QUOTE]Spot on BB. WS prices are high although I have taken some regulars from Sapphire and give them 4 K for the whole nigh until midday. Maybe because I am a regular customer with them. LK has cheaper options and again I take some regular girls all night from the gogos and it is about 3 k.
G clubs can be good also but the Soi 6 option is good value. Can pop three girls in a day and drink a little and get away with under 5 k. All of this depends on what your tastes and budget are.
I must say, the last time you showed me the ropes you took me to gogo with stunning girls but the prices were high. That said, the girls were something and when I am there next time I will pop in and see what is on offer. May well try one then.
Happy Hunting.
I think consensus for those visiting say TT exchange offers the best rates for exchange. Here's one of the TT stores with live updates on rates. As we all know, even with TT not all have the same exchange rates. Try staying away from tourist areas like Walking Street, LK Metro, Central Festival, etc.
[URL]https://get4x.com/en/thailand/pattaya/south-pattaya/tt-exchange-pattaya-sai-2-road[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114701]Last night I went to an open air bar on Soi 7. It was on the left side and one of the last bars before Tequila Reef. There were some pretty nice chicks there and a couple of them did not even have tattoos. Out of curiosity I asked about the prices. Barfine 1000, LT 3000, ST 2000, but the girl said she would come ST with me for 1000. May the monger gods be with you barfine guys.[/QUOTE]I think they were trying to take advantage of you. I frequent beer bars and usually it is 300 bar fine, 1000st, 2000 or 1,500 if you haggle a bit, LT. I had a spinner the other night and paid her 1,500 for 2 hours because she was a fantasy come true. She was ecstatic.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2115030]I think they were trying to take advantage of you. .....[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Sorry Mr.
ENT. I think you should have this post framed for your next birthday!
I burst out laughing! LOL. The funniest thing I've read on this board in a while.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2114861]Wow! How does a place like that survive?[/QUOTE]Indeed, it's an awful place. My theory (maybe I think too much) is that it survives by conformism. Most guys are over 65 yrs old, they want a strictly FL en-air place, with ample seating and a certain type of music. And all that by the women side too. They got it there and stick to it. Now for the nonsensical part (there is always one in Thailand), my precious blonde spinner semi-pro likes it! She started going there when 26 and very sexy looking (she still is). I could grill her for hours and she wouldn't tell why, but I believe it's because it places her miles ahead of all the other women there. I do not recommend the place, but as you said, gems can be fund anywhere.
Note: in fairness, on average, Red Car "population" is not that much younger or good looking.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2115016]I think consensus for those visiting say TT exchange offers the best rates for exchange. Here's one of the TT stores with live updates on rates. As we all know, even with TT not all have the same exchange rates. Try staying away from tourist areas like Walking Street, LK Metro, Central Festival, etc.
[URL]https://get4x.com/en/thailand/pattaya/south-pattaya/tt-exchange-pattaya-sai-2-road[/URL][/QUOTE]My first trip to LOS I brought a stack of crisp new $100 bills. That cash stayed in my safe and never got converted to baht.
Instead, I used my Fidelity ATM card. The exchange rate is the same as used by the New York Stock Exchange (posted at [URL]XE.com[/URL]) and the ATM fee is reimbursed by Fidelity. This gives you about 0. 5 baht per dollar better than the best exchange place. I checked the details of transactions when I got home, it worked perfectly.
I'm told that Schwabb has a similar deal with their ATM card.
My second trip to Thailand I brought very little USA cash, none of it got used.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2115030]I think they were trying to take advantage of you. I frequent beer bars and usually it is 300 bar fine, 1000st, 2000 or 1,500 if you haggle a bit, LT. I had a spinner the other night and paid her 1,500 for 2 hours because she was a fantasy come true. She was ecstatic.[/QUOTE]Like I said I am not a barfine guy anyway. The most I have ever paid anytime is 1500 LT, and I can count on one hand the times I have done that. Lately I have been giving chicks 1200. The other day I was telling my friends that I gave the chick 1100 and they said fuck that. 1000 only!
I will go in and get a chick's Line and have her come when she is not working. The chick that came over from LK Metro the other night; one of the first things she said when she walked in was you are smart; you do not pay barfine. (I went back to her gogo the other night. She was real happy to see me, but freaked out when I took a picture of her legs when she was sitting next to me. She told the mamasan lady and kept trying to make me erase it. She said if people know they worked in a gogo before they can not get a job outside of one, so no pictures inside.)
When I asked the Soi 7 chick, before she told me the prices she said it is the same as the gogos. Then I asked how much is that. I can't remember if she told me that before she worked at a gogo or another bar. When I told her that it was expensive she said I know but I don't make the prices. She pointed at the owner who was a white guy sitting down as the cashier and said he makes the prices. That is why she said she would come with me for 1000 instead of the 2000 set price for ST. And like I said, the girls looked pretty good. Maybe he got them from a gogo or agency or something. She stayed there talking to me until I left and did not ask for a drink or anything so I am sure she was not trying to take advantage of me.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2115118]My first trip to LOS I brought a stack of crisp new $100 bills. That cash stayed in my safe and never got converted to baht.
Instead, I used my Fidelity ATM card. The exchange rate is the same as used by the New York Stock Exchange (posted at [URL]XE.com[/URL]) and the ATM fee is reimbursed by Fidelity. This gives you about 0. 5 baht per dollar better than the best exchange place. I checked the details of transactions when I got home, it worked perfectly.
I'm told that Schwabb has a similar deal with their ATM card.
My second trip to Thailand I brought very little USA cash, none of it got used.[/QUOTE]Exactly. When I first got my place here I opened a bank account so I could bring the cash, exchange it, and put it into my account to pinch off. Since I got Charles Schwab with the ATM fee reimbursement, I think 3 years back, I never really bring cash or use my Thai bank account anymore.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2115126]Exactly. When I first got my place here I opened a bank account so I could bring the cash, exchange it, and put it into my account to pinch off. Since I got Charles Schwab with the ATM fee reimbursement, I think 3 years back, I never really bring cash or use my Thai bank account anymore.[/QUOTE]I have a Charles Schwab ATM-Debit Card and it is definitely the way to go. With their fee reimbursement you just can't beat it. But for those without the fee reimbursing cards I would find just look at a couple of exchanges near your hotel and select the best one. And keep using that exchange. The truth is that rates at most of these places are very similar. It doesn't make sense to waste a lot of time and energy checking out 10 different currency exchanges. Just avoid the airport exchanges and you can change money just about anywhere.
When I visit Thailand I take some traveler checks with me for emergencies. My bank issues them for free. Thailand is one of the few traveler check friendly countries now.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2114998]I'll get flack from the penny pinchers on here but 5000 is definitely not enough of a budget for 1 day, especially if you want to pick up a top gogo girl in Pattaya. 3 or 4 ladydrinks at 200-240 baht each to make sure she's the one you want, most barfines now at 2000 (Thanks Mr. Korea and Mr. Japan), 3000 short time and 5000 long time.[/QUOTE]You are talking as if all top girls are from go-go's. It is not so, and that before mentioning that often they behave the typical starfish. 2. 5 - 3 K LT for a FL stunner is about right. Old fat men wearing beer a-shirt and flip-flops excluded. If she doesn't perform, out of the door with 1 K. But if buying many drinks is your thing, be my guest.
Saying that 5 K a day is not enough is honestly laughable.
[QUOTE=ThaiMat85;2114923]And now, question to more experience guys on that forum:
Which places are worth to visit? I'm thinking about Bangkok and Pattaya. I know main areas (Bangkok. Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza. Pattaya. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro). I'm asking for recommendation of specific places.
Can you please writte names of good a go go clubs / bars / massage / soapy massage?
I'm looking for good looking girls with good service. My budget for a day is 5000 THB.
Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Mix it up try it all. In Bangkok. Do soapies,. Go to Crazy Horse in Soi Cowboy spend a little on drinks with the better looking girls maybe barfine, Soi 11 in Bangkok has best deal and looking massage girls got to look in side alleys before ambassador hotel. Freelancers at Soi 4, Soi 7 Beer bar Try out the various gogos. Go to club areas on soi 11 and pick up drunk party girl (warning this is addictive be careful).
In Pattaya checkout massage street, Windmill Agogo on WS and others try freelance bars / clubs. Lots of girls out looking around 3 am+. Other Soi's check out agogo's on Soi 7/8 (note girls can't go back to bar so barfining at 11 pm usually gets you LT. Check out Soi 13/1 and 13/2 Vegas club had some stunners check out the rest (FYI some of those are scary but you can turn and run worth a look). Beach Rd Freelancers. For both do Tinder, Thaifriendly freelancers some are really good.
I like to check out everything.
Stay horny my friend.
I haven't seen a Chinese flag in about a week anybody know what happened? The hotels seem to be scrambling a bit I noticed on agoda, which is good for me.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2115156]You are talking as if all top girls are from go-go's. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure where in my post I actually said that. I primarily referred to gogo bars since the original poster listed 5 areas, 4 of which are areas that are mainly gogo bars and listed gogo bars as the first on his list of types of establishments. I'm not sure where you can get LT with a top gogo girl for under 5 k unless (1) you are here for a long time and can coordinate meeting girls on their days off or (2) you live in Pattaya when getting a ton of free sex is a given, if you have any game.
My current favorite girls are 2 gogo dancers, one in LK Metro and one on Walking Street, 1 girl at a beer bar near Soi Lengkee, and 2 G club girls who work in separate G clubs never discussed on this board. This excludes a wrath of gogo girls who I have gotten to know over the past couple of years who don't charge me anything. They're always my favorites since they're free. I just have to feed them.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2115118]Cash Exchange Places. Why?
I used my Fidelity ATM card.
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I'm told that Schwabb has a similar deal with their ATM card. [/QUOTE]
I posted the information because most of us are not from the USA. I have Charles schwab in my country but still can't get that deal since I am not a resident of the USA.
Spot on! This comment needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially by short term tourists and in general by anyone who is not a resident or frequent visitor of Pattaya.
Anyone who believes otherwise will be in for a rude shock. The '5 k for LT is too much' statement gives a false impression that stunners can be had for 2. 5-3 k for LT. The caveat is only by regulars who can avoid bar fines.
1. Through contacts developed over a period of time.
2. Getting private contact details like line ID and using the info at a later time.
3. Willing to wait till that stunner does not find a better deal for the night and the gogo closes to avoid barfine.
4. Hit the discos late.
For a tourist who is in Pats for a few days, time is of the essence and the quickest way to find hot girls is a jaunt to the gogos and guess what? LT at a gogo bar incl barfine for a looker is atleast 6 k if not more. If you play the waiting game then you will be left holding the short end of the stick.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2115170]I'm not sure where in my post I actually said that. I primarily referred to gogo bars since the original poster listed 5 areas, 4 of which are areas that are mainly gogo bars and listed gogo bars as the first on his list of types of establishments. I'm not sure where you can get LT with a top gogo girl for under 5 k unless (1) you are here for a long time and can coordinate meeting girls on their days off or (2) you live in Pattaya when getting a ton of free sex is a given, if you have any game.
My current favorite girls are 2 gogo dancers, one in LK Metro and one on Walking Street, 1 girl at a beer bar near Soi Lengkee, and 2 G club girls who work in separate G clubs never discussed on this board. This excludes a wrath of gogo girls who I have gotten to know over the past couple of years who don't charge me anything. They're always my favorites since they're free. I just have to feed them.
I posted the information because most of us are not from the USA. I have Charles schwab in my country but still can't get that deal since I am not a resident of the USA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2115191]The caveat is only by regulars who can avoid bar fines.
1. Through contacts developed over a period of time.
2. Getting private contact details like line ID and using the info at a later time.[/QUOTE]"period of time" is about 1 minute as recent Mr. E posting tells.
[QUOTE]3. Willing to wait till that stunner does not find a better deal for the night and the gogo closes to avoid barfine.[/QUOTE]Unfavorable bet. Using your words, you'll have the wrong end of the stick more often than not. Hot pussy is a seller's market now, and it has been since the last 5 years.
[QUOTE]4. Hit the discos late.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Not necessarily. The hot ones can came at anytime, and are taken quickly. If you hit late, you'll never know what you've missed, or will see it rubbing on another guy.
All in all it seems to me you're still confused by the not so good experience you had. Wish you better luck for a next time.
Looks like we are comparing apples and oranges. I re read your previous post. I am talking about gogo girls and you are about Free Lancers.
Never tried the FL scene, so I will be the first to admit you have a valid argument.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2115218]"period of time" is about 1 minute as recent Mr. E posting tells.
Unfavorable bet. Using your words, you'll have the wrong end of the stick more often than not. Hot pussy is a seller's market now, and it has been since the last 5 years.
Hmm. Not necessarily. The hot ones can came at anytime, and are taken quickly. If you hit late, you'll never know what you've missed, or will see it rubbing on another guy.
All in all it seems to me you're still confused by the not so good experience you had. Wish you better luck for a next time.[/QUOTE]
I've been to LOS many times but always to Bangkok and always on my own. This time I'm going to Pattaya and I'm going with the missus (don't ask).
My question is this. Is there anything good mongering-wise near the Montrra Hotel,**398 Moo 12 Rajchawaroon Road? I will probably only have limited free time to plan a getaway so somewhere closer than Soi 6 would be great. Massage parlours / BJ bars etc preferable to go-go etc as my free time will probably be in the daytime.
Really appreciate any tips / advice. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113799]Haha! You the man! I've never in my life (even as a teenager or when in my 20's) been able to come 6 tunes in a day! So.
[/QUOTE]Who says you have to come each time? If I could only count a sexual act as being complete if I came I would be like you, equivalent to 6 times in a month, yet I will be with 2 to 3, occasionally 4 to 5, girls per day. I don't come often, but being with a variety of girls is interesting. But what you do is great! There is much to say for it, and a few times when I have returned to my hotel, alone, I sometimes I wish I had a girl that I could simply hang with, but finding girls an old dude like me would want to actually spend lots of time with are hard to find.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2115166]I haven't seen a Chinese flag in about a week anybody know what happened? The hotels seem to be scrambling a bit I noticed on agoda, which is good for me.[/QUOTE]Get your visual troubles corrected and you will see that at least in the evening the chinese are ALL in Walking Street!
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2115280]Looks like we are comparing apples and oranges. I re read your previous post. I am talking about gogo girls and you are about Free Lancers.
Never tried the FL scene, so I will be the first to admit you have a valid argument.[/QUOTE]Jump on a motorbike taxi some afternoon to Kinearee Gentleman's Club. You should be back before she misses you.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Restaurant_Review-g293919-d7683707-Reviews-Kinnaree-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html[/URL]
I just finished my 3 days in Pattaya and it was nice. While I liked the place for it's beautiful traffic, the beach was nice and the general feel good too. I travelled alone and it was boring to some extent since I didn't plan to travel much. Used TF site and kind of built my contacts before travelling and got two girls from it.
The first one stayed with me through the night and was quite GFE. Just one shot as it was the day I landed and I hadn't caught up on my lost sleep. Paid 2 K (baht). The next morning I got another one (chubby) for 2 shots at 1 K (baht). Both the girls were nice looking and gave a good company.
Being alone, I didn't get into any bars as I can't really drink alone. Roamed around the beach road and walking street and it was fun.
For the Indian travellers. I haven't read about these points anywhere.
1. The visa on arrival fees is 2000 baht. I was told 1000 and hence it was a straight 1000 off my cash balance. The queue can be crazy and I had to spend a full 2 hours to get this done. There is also an express queue which is an additional 400 baht or so. Since I landed too early, I was thinking of staying in the airport but this offset my waiting time, rather painfully.
A. You need to have a Thailand visa specific photograph, get that from India or be ready to shell out a fortune on that.
B. Carry a pen and also a gum stick. Even if you don't stick your photograph, they'll staple it.
C. Keep your documents (from Visa counter) safe. You'll need it when to fly out from there.
D. Book your hotel before you travel. You need to show them for getting the Visa. If you thought you'll land and find a place, it may not work.
E. Carry a printout of your air ticket & accommodation or have these downloaded into your phone as PDFs or so. Remember you don't get WiFi at airport and you won't be able to access internet to fetch the documents from your mail. Physical copies are the best bet in this case.
2. I traveled by Air Asia and they also give you a tourist sim (active for 7 days with 3. 5 GB 4 G data). Costs 300 baht if I recollect. They accept only Thai currency.
3. I'd say, get your currency converted even before you travel. Saves you money and hassle. There are some sites (bookmyforex etc) where the conversion rate is really good. You'll also find some good agents.
4. If you want to travel to Pattaya from Don Meung, it's either a taxi or you could use the bus service (no direct bus service though). You get a airport shuttle (A1 / A2) to Mo Chit 2 bus terminal which is a 30-40 minutes travel for 30 baht). There is a Mo Chit 1 bus terminal and also a Mo Chit metro station, but don't get down at any of these places. Once you reach Mo Chit 2, you have mini vans and air buses which takes you to Pattaya. The bus charges you 117 & mini vans 140 baht. Takes around 2 hours to reach Pattaya. Once you reach Pattaya, use tuk tuks for your short distance travel.
5. There are only few places which accept cards that too only VISA cards. So, either find out those places (some of the KFCs, Burger Kings etc) by asking upfront or carry enough and more cash.
6. Always wear a smile and that helps. People in general are quite friendly and help you with what you want. If you don't like something, smile at them and say a no or walk away.
7. I didn't visit any joints, but I heard good reviews about both Tony's & Nasha. One of the days it rained while I was walking and was stationed opposite Nasha. Saw a bunch of hot Russian / Uzbek babes getting in there. I am also told that if you are nice to them and work your charm, they can come cheaper than a Soapie (was surprised to hear from someone who was successful).
8. I had a Soapie as well at Sabai (one opp to Honey 2). While the experience was ok, the lady I chose wasn't full co-operative. Again I heard that Honey 2 would have been a better option or Rasputin even better though expensive.
For the soapie at Sabai, the rates were 2000,2500 & 3000 baht. Honestly, I couldn't find anything that triggered me instantly and hence opted for 2000 range. This was at 7 PM. Those who don't know, it's the girls giving you a good bath with body rub and finally a full service.
9. One should try the street food as well, I found it really nice when I had it couple of times.
10. On the return, the immigration doesn't allow even water, so please be prepared to throw any liquid you may have in your hand baggage.
11. The duty free in Don Meung has better offers for liquor (you get nice strolleys, bags etc) if you buy 2 or 3 bottles Vs couple of dollar savings in India duty free. So you know where to buy the stuff from.
12. Those who have been to Goa would get a similar feel at Pattaya.
13. I have made some good friends too, they are a very polite set of people If you treat them the way they treat you, you'll have good help. I have asked some of them to be with me, they politely declined and didn't feel offended. As I said, be nice to them and it works.
14. For buying anything, you have 7-11 stores with a trademark display board. Again, if you are short on cash, find one which accepts VISA cards. Some of the people at these stores get irritated if you ask for cards (they don't have it) so, shrug them off and get to next place. These stores also sell liquor / beer etc.
15. I am told the condoms are expensive there, so carry whatever you want from here. I also went to a medical store to get Viagra, that was 2500 baht (or so) and I asked for a local variant which is Sidegra which I got for 400 baht (for 4 tablets). The lady was nice and answered my questions.
16. I read the misbehavior or Indian groups in multiple posts and have had a bunch of jokers show it to me real time too. Please don't behave like you own the place. Be it in the airport or in the flight. You may have achieved a great trip, but so are other people. You have no rights to be noisy and disturb / irritate others. Be nice and enjoy the trip. I had a hard time in the flight with one such lousy group being noisy almost through out.
Unfortunately, I was down with fever on day 3 and continued this way to my BKK trip. I think it happened due to getting wet in the rain and also the soapie, was shivering during the time. During the 3rd week or so, Thailand has a annual fleet review where a bunch of countries come together for training etc and the event ends with some marches and fireworks. If you are there, don't miss it. Also, during this time, I read they kind of get the beach roads etc cleared and you can't find working girls after late into the night.
I'll definitely be going back once more, also to explore the sedate places in Thailand like Koh Samui, Kraby etc. Hope my tips will help some of the first time travelers.
[QUOTE=JamesRider;2115322] Is there anything good mongering-wise near the Montrra Hotel,**398 Moo 12 Rajchawaroon Road? I will probably only have limited free time to plan a getaway so somewhere closer than Soi 6 would be great. Massage parlours / BJ bars etc preferable to go-go etc as my free time will probably be in the daytime. [/QUOTE]In the day, you are maybe a 2 minute motorbike ride from Heaven G Club. Maybe 5 minutes from Kinnaree G Club.
At night, you're only about a 10 minute motorbike ride assuming the traffic isn't that bad.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2115373]Who says you have to come each time? If I could only count a sexual act as being complete if I came I would be like you, equivalent to 6 times in a month, yet I will be with 2 to 3, occasionally 4 to 5, girls per day. I don't come often, but being with a variety of girls is interesting. But what you do is great! There is much to say for it, and a few times when I have returned to my hotel, alone, I sometimes I wish I had a girl that I could simply hang with, but finding girls an old dude like me would want to actually spend lots of time with are hard to find.[/QUOTE]Haha. I said I hang with 6-8 girls in a month, usually from 3-4 days each. And last time one came in from Isaan (no longer works in Pattaya) and stayed with me for 10 days. She is definite 8 and sweet, so GFE.
The advantage is you can have action whenever you feel like it and there is no hurry or pressure during the 10 days. Same with having a girl for 3-4 days if you like hanging with the 'person ' in terms of looks, figure, attire and how she carries herself. The one for 10 days was an exception and.
Exceptional in all those aspects. So, I observe very carefully for many hours before I make a move. And then when I talk with her I can tell more to validate or invalidate my original feeling. Then I negotiate and can tell more during that process as well. Then it is LT and the next day if all
Was good and I like her enough then I extend for additional days at a higher rate per day.
So, yeah you give up on variety and numbers but you trade that for quality and.
GFE. It does not have to work for anybody else, it only has to work for you!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2115476]In the day, you are maybe a 2 minute motorbike ride from Heaven G Club. Maybe 5 minutes from Kinnaree G Club.
At night, you're only about a 10 minute motorbike ride assuming the traffic isn't that bad.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much! Legend!
The first thing someone should know when coming to Thailand is that in most cases [B]the first price is not the final price[/B]. So always negotiate when possible. Last week I went to Phuket with some guys we went to a booth to book a tour. The list price on the tour was 1300 baht. I negotiated the price down to 900 baht. So keep that in mind when going to get chicks from bars and gogos. The barfine is a stable price, but the price for the girl can be negotiated. And if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.
So today around 4:30pm I went to get a bite to eat with Pipelayer then right before 6pm headed off to pick up some things that my leatherworker lady was repairing for me. When I left there I decided to ride down Soi 6 since I was so close. A girl at a popular bar called me over so I parked my bike and went inside. I ordered my usual Sangsom with ice and went off to the toilet. When I came back I went straight to the bar to see if they had made my drink yet. They had not, so I changed it to a Blend 285 with ice because someone the other day was telling me they were surprised that I did not drink that instead. I have drank it before, but always when some chicks invite me to their table to drink from their bottle. I will stick to my Sangsom.
Anyway I sat down on the sofa with the girl and my drink. I asked her if she wanted anything and asked what it was because I know they will try to stick a double Jack Daniels on you. She only wanted a LEO so I told her to go ahead and get it. She came back and sat down. 80 for my drink and 120 for hers. She started playing with my dick through my pants and saying massage. I told her that I like massage better from her mouth. She said she could do it upstairs. I asked her how much and she said 1000 for her and 350 for the room. I told her no way. 700 for her. She said 800. Then I said 700 and she said okay. She went to total my bill out and came back with a bill of 550 for the room and the 2 drinks.
The room was very nice. We took a shower together because I always like them to wash me as part of the package. We went to the bed and got down to business. When we finished we showered again and I got dressed. I counted out 7 100 baht bills from my stash and started to put it in her wallet. She asked what I was doing and grabbed the wallet from me. I said I was just putting your money inside. She opened it up and I said wow you already have too much money. You have 10,000 baht. She took it out and said no this is only 250 baht. She put it back in with the 700 I gave her and I told her I would see her later and I went back downstairs and left.
P.S. As I rode down Soi Diana on the way home I remember the girl I met at the Soi 7 bar the other day said that she worked at Area 51 before.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2115476]
At night, you're only about a 10 minute motorbike ride assuming the traffic isn't that bad.[/QUOTE]I meant to say 10 minutes from Walking Street.
[QUOTE=IndianMale83;2115451]...[/QUOTE]Great post. Lots of info there. Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=IndianMale83;2115451]1. The visa on arrival fees is 2000 baht. I was told 1000 and hence it was a straight 1000 off my cash balance. [/QUOTE]Getting a visa in India is actually easier and cheaper. I paid 2600 INR, including agent fees (pickup and drop off). And, no queuing at the airport.
[QUOTE=IndianMale83;2115451]2. I traveled by Air Asia and they also give you a tourist sim (active for 7 days with 3. 5 GB 4 G data). Costs 300 baht if I recollect. They accept only Thai currency.[/QUOTE]BKK airport has several local mobile service provider stores, with identical deals.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2114998]Soapies. If you've done one, End if there. The next one and the next one after that will be forgettable no matter how hot the girl is.[/QUOTE]True that. It's very mechanical. Some MAY be better than others, but that's just not worth finding out.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2114699]Why not go in as a group of 2, then have another 2 come in after. In the meantime, they can scout another bar which may be better.[/QUOTE]Should try splitting up; maybe next time.
[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2114280]Can someone please suggest some good soapies out there?...Also, where can I get some Russian / Uzbek action?[/QUOTE]Russian / Uzbek in soapies? I think Rasputin had a few. But pricey, at 5 k for a session. On walking street there are a few Russian joints, but they're "all show-no action"; the gals aren't allowed to go out, I gather. Head to Raas club at the end of the WS. There were a handful of middle-eastern and Uzbek gals there. This caters to the Indian crowd, so music is Indian though. Not sure if that's a problem.
[QUOTE=IndianMale83;2115451]I just finished my 3 days in Pattaya and it was nice. While I liked the place for it's beautiful traffic, the beach was nice and the general feel good too. I travelled alone and it was boring to some extent since I didn't plan to travel much. Used TF site and kind of built my contacts before travelling and got two girls from it.
The first one stayed with me through the night and was quite GFE. Just one shot as it was the day I landed and I hadn't caught up on my lost sleep. Paid 2 K (baht). The next morning I got another one (chubby) for 2 shots at 1 K (baht). Both the girls were nice looking and gave a good company.
Being alone, I didn't get into any bars as I can't really drink alone. Roamed around the beach road and walking street and it was fun..[/QUOTE]Thank you very much! This helps. Just one question though. What is a Thailand Visa specific photograph?
I meant to post this info months ago but had not for whatever reason. The chick that usually takes me to the airport has taken on a 5th job as manager of a bar. She also owns a chicken restaurant (where rooms can be rented above) and a salon. So she is not able to take me to the airport at the time I need tomorrow.
A few months ago though I met a guy named King. He said he used to live in the USA. His mom owns a shop to rent motorbikes and you can order taxis at the same spot. He is there during the day. It is located on Soi Buakhow right before it meets Soi Diana. It is directly next door to the Subway sandwich shop. The price from Pattaya to the airport is 900 and the price from the airport to Pattaya is 1000.
I just took the ubiquitous Indian passport size photos (3 x3. 5 cms is what we get here in the south) and they did not say a word. My buddy carried a square photo and he got through as well. If you did not carry one then you have to get it at the airport which is an extra hassle. I really do not think they pay that much attention, as long as you carry a recent photo.
4 x 6 cms accoding to the official information posted here.
[URL]http://www.suvarnabhumiairport.com/en/907-suvarnabhumi-visa-on-arrival[/URL]
[QUOTE=VigKed;2116376]Thank you very much! This helps. Just one question though. What is a Thailand Visa specific photograph?[/QUOTE]
I think it is safe to say that massage places, atleast on second road and beach road outnumber the pickup bars and other open mongering places in the area.
Do all of these girls in massage places provide extras? Understand some limit themselves to HJ and such but in general is it okay to ask them if they are available for FS?
Can the girls be taken out? Sorry if this sounds stupid considering the gazillion options out there but there was this cute girl who gave me an amazing foot massage but I did not have the courage to ask her since the place was crowded.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2116820]Do all of these girls in massage places provide extras? Understand some limit themselves to HJ and such but in general is it okay to ask them if they are available for FS?
Can the girls be taken out? Sorry if this sounds stupid considering the gazillion options out there but there was this cute girl who gave me an amazing foot massage but I did not have the courage to ask her since the place was crowded.[/QUOTE]Well you better muster up the courage or you will never know. Just say you go with me. Then she will tell you yes or no. If she is leaving with you, just leaving not talking about any massage, then some places will make you pay massage fine. Or if you say you want a massage in your room it will run you like 500 then give another 500 for sex. In Pattaya a closed mouth doesn't get fed.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2116820]I think it is safe to say that massage places, atleast on second road and beach road outnumber the pickup bars and other open mongering places in the area.
Do all of these girls in massage places provide extras? Understand some limit themselves to HJ and such but in general is it okay to ask them if they are available for FS?
Can the girls be taken out? Sorry if this sounds stupid considering the gazillion options out there but there was this cute girl who gave me an amazing foot massage but I did not have the courage to ask her since the place was crowded.[/QUOTE]They are all different most have to go to hotel for extras and they will never tell you that unless you ask until they know you better. Funny story I was taking girls from bar next store to hotel and after a week of this the girls at the massage shop nearby made sure I knew they were the better option.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2116820]I think it is safe to say that massage places, atleast on second road and beach road outnumber the pickup bars and other open mongering places in the area.
Do all of these girls in massage places provide extras? Understand some limit themselves to HJ and such but in general is it okay to ask them if they are available for FS?
Can the girls be taken out? Sorry if this sounds stupid considering the gazillion options out there but there was this cute girl who gave me an amazing foot massage but I did not have the courage to ask her since the place was crowded.[/QUOTE]If the place also offers full body or oil massage, it will be in a private or semi private area. So, go back and ask that girl for one of those and then ask her then. Use Mr. Ent's line or just ask her to put in her number on your phone. I have tried many second road places and have yet to find one that will go out. I will be trying again this time around and will report back. I usually just ask if they do massage in my hotel and they usually say no. LOL.
I have had a few off second road that came with me for a full body massage in my room. One of them was super great. So, it's all in the stats for me. Try, try and try and once in a blue moon I get lucky and find a keeper.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2116490] The price from Pattaya to the airport is 900 and the price from the airport to Pattaya is 1000.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty happy with my taxi service Pattaya to / from suvarnabhumi for 1000 baht but I do need taxi service often Pattaya to / from BKK. Anyone with a good recommendation around 1200-1300 including tolls?
[QUOTE=Haven123;2115478]Haha. I said I hang with 6-8 girls in a month, usually from 3-4 days each. And last time one came in from Isaan (no longer works in Pattaya) and stayed with me for 10 days. She is definite 8 and sweet, so GFE.
The advantage is you can have action whenever you feel like it and there is no hurry or pressure during the 10 days. Same with having a girl for 3-4 days if you like hanging with the 'person ' in terms of looks, figure, attire and how she carries herself. The one for 10 days was an exception and.
Exceptional in all those aspects. So, I observe very carefully for many hours before I make a move. And then when I talk with her I can tell more to validate or invalidate my original feeling. Then I negotiate and can tell more during that process as well. Then it is LT and the next day if all
Was good and I like her enough then I extend for additional days at a higher rate per day.
So, yeah you give up on variety and numbers but you trade that for quality and.
GFE. It does not have to work for anybody else, it only has to work for you![/QUOTE]This is the way I operate as well. But my next trip, I am going try to take a new girl every day.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2117444]I'm pretty happy with my taxi service Pattaya to / from suvarnabhumi for 1000 baht but I do need taxi service often Pattaya to / from BKK. Anyone with a good recommendation around 1200-1300 including tolls?[/QUOTE]I always use Mr. T's taxi service. I went Soi 11 to Pattaya for 1,200 a few days ago. I was happy with that. I'm also thinking that traveling light and can get to suvarnabhumi by train could actually be quicker. Would not save much though. If you can't find him on google send me a PM.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2117557]I always use Mr. T's taxi service. I went Soi 11 to Pattaya for 1,200 a few days ago. I was happy with that. I'm also thinking that traveling light and can get to suvarnabhumi by train could actually be quicker. Would not save much though. If you can't find him on google send me a PM.[/QUOTE]Yes taking the Airport Rail Link to BKK from Suvarnabumi is definitely quicker than Driving into BKK if your going to Nana or Asoke area or something near Bts. If you get off at the Makkasan stop and switch to MRT is a bit quicker for Asoke.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2116820]I think it is safe to say that massage places, atleast on second road and beach road outnumber the pickup bars and other open mongering places in the area.
Do all of these girls in massage places provide extras? Understand some limit themselves to HJ and such but in general is it okay to ask them if they are available for FS?
Can the girls be taken out? Sorry if this sounds stupid considering the gazillion options out there but there was this cute girl who gave me an amazing foot massage but I did not have the courage to ask her since the place was crowded.[/QUOTE]Sexual services should be obvious. I wouldn't suggest most of the women who do "massages' would be prostitutes.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2113283]How many you guys try room service? My hotel has the best food / prices I've seen anywhere at 115 baht for Thai dish with rice. Quality and quantity of the food is really good. A great surprise.[/QUOTE]What was the hotel? Last time was there the food was less and costly in hotels across Thailand.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2118714]Sexual services should be obvious. I wouldn't suggest most of the women who do "massages' would be prostitutes.[/QUOTE]My take on this is that you never know unless you ask. Many times I have had extras in what appears to be a legitimate massage place. I had to ask or it was offered only in private and expected to remain a private topic. Getting turned down is no big deal and you still get a good massage at a great price. And true, some places look more like brothels than massage shops and usually they are offering extras as part of the enticement to enter the premises.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2118714]Sexual services should be obvious. I wouldn't suggest most of the women who do "massages' would be prostitutes.[/QUOTE]You need to be more specific about your answer. In Bangkok, all the girls in those oily massage parlors of Phrom Phong district are prostitutes while most of those young girls in those massage parlors along Soi 23 are not prostitutes.
There is a street stall on Beach Road at the end of Soi 13 that sells boxes of Kamagra jelly for 900 baht. 50 x 5 gm sachets per box. The stall has empty boxes on display but the Indian guy that runs the stall will take you to a nearby storeroom where the real stuff is. Some of the boxes had broken seals so I chose one that was still in it's cellophane wrapper. I gave the jelly a test-firing while I was still in Pattaya and it worked for me. My mate bought a packet of Levitra pills for 250 baht from the same guy. I don't have any feedback from him. The storeroom also has sex toys for sale if anybody is interested.
[QUOTE=Skippyjp;2119854]There is a street stall on Beach Road at the end of Soi 13 that sells boxes of Kamagra jelly for 900 baht. 50 x 5 gm sachets per box. The stall has empty boxes on display but the Indian guy that runs the stall will take you to a nearby storeroom where the real stuff is. Some of the boxes had broken seals so I chose one that was still in it's cellophane wrapper. I gave the jelly a test-firing while I was still in Pattaya and it worked for me. My mate bought a packet of Levitra pills for 250 baht from the same guy. I don't have any feedback from him. The storeroom also has sex toys for sale if anybody is interested.[/QUOTE]How was the quality of the toys? Did he have Hatachi like wands?
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2117557]I always use Mr. T's taxi service. I went Soi 11 to Pattaya for 1,200 a few days ago. I was happy with that. I'm also thinking that traveling light and can get to suvarnabhumi by train could actually be quicker. Would not save much though. If you can't find him on google send me a PM.[/QUOTE]Had a drop to pattaya from BKK, thought of staying over at pattaya 4 another day. Next morning took the public transport an eight wheeler for 120 baht. It was a quick drop with 1 stop over for snacks. This was around an year back though.
Other than the Hilton, what's a good hotel with beach views?
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2120498]Other than the Hilton, what's a good hotel with beach views?[/QUOTE]Check hotels from Soi 1 to Soi 5 And Soi 10. I like Best Beach Villas but there are other options.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2120498]Other than the Hilton, what's a good hotel with beach views?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.lkpattaya.com/empress[/URL]
Yes, girl-friendly.
[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;2120186]How was the quality of the toys? Did he have Hatachi like wands?[/QUOTE]Yes, he did have a wand vibrator that he showed me. I didn't pay much attention to it, but it had a cord so it wasn't battery powered. He also had mini-vibrators and inflatable dolls. Yes, I couldn't understand why you would buy an inflatable doll when the real thing is everywhere. Check it out if you are in town.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2120506]Check hotels from Soi 1 to Soi 5 And Soi 10. I like Best Beach Villas but there are other options.[/QUOTE]I have stayed and can recommend the Dusit Thani. It's at the end of beach road, before the turn to Naklua. They have a really nice spa and also good lunch buffets. 5 star prices but the hotel itself due to the location, I think, can be booked for about $100 plus taxes.Which is pretty good for ocean view location and 5/ star service.
Long haul to WS. , but many beer bars around. Unfortunately, unlike many moons ago, beer bars quality these days are quite poor. But if you already have girls or contacts then it's a nice place to hang out in luxury.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2120498]Other than the Hilton, what's a good hotel with beach views?[/QUOTE]Wave Hotel is on the beach. You can also airbnb at places like View Talay and The Base.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2120498]Other than the Hilton, what's a good hotel with beach views?[/QUOTE]Check out Wave Hotel, which is only two blocks away from the Hilton. Boutique style and very nice with extremely friendly service staff. I enjoyed my stay there last year and had a beach view (not sure if you have to request one).
[QUOTE=Haven123;2120648]I have stayed and can recommend the Dusit Thani. It's at the end of beach road, before the turn to Naklua. They have a really nice spa and also good lunch buffets. 5 star prices but the hotel itself due to the location, I think, can be booked for about $100 plus taxes.Which is pretty good for ocean view location and 5/ star service.
Long haul to WS. , but many beer bars around. Unfortunately, unlike many moons ago, beer bars quality these days are quite poor. But if you already have girls or contacts then it's a nice place to hang out in luxury.[/QUOTE]It's 4. 5 kms away. I don't see that as a problem as I will typically go for LT taxi shouldn't be too dear from WS.
Better check with the hotel. I don't think the Dusit Pattaya is Girl Friendly. I know the former Marriott was GF, but now as the Avani Hotel it is not GF. LK Empress is GF. The Hilton is most definitely GF. Apparently the Hard Rock is GF. The Holiday Inn is GF. And there are many more GF Beach Road Hotels.
[URL]http://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/guest-friendly-hotels-pattaya/[/URL]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2120784]Better check with the hotel. I don't think the Dusit Pattaya is Girl Friendly. I know the former Marriott was GF, but now as the Avani Hotel it is not GF. LK Empress is GF. The Hilton is most definitely GF. Apparently the Hard Rock is GF. The Holiday Inn is GF. And there are many more GF Beach Road Hotels.
[URL]http://guestfriendlyhotels.asia/guest-friendly-hotels-pattaya/[/URL][/QUOTE]Dusit Pattaya is not girl friendly.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2120847]Dusit Pattaya is not girl friendly.[/QUOTE]I am surprised. I had no issues. Neither with Dusit Thani in Pattaya or BKK. Just one at a time with ID and check in.
It's a old Thai hotel chain after all. If they were not. They would have a big problem with their no 1 customer base: Thai Businessmen.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels
Marilyn Monroe agogo and music Cafe raided last night. Only an identification check.
Been awhile, almost half a year since I have been to the beach, and yes, parts are still fun; in fact, way more fun that BKK. Even at this time of year (I was there last weekend), it is not heaving with punters. Yes, there are lots of Chinese tour groups and other unsavoury demographics about, but I am happy to report that Soi 6 is still about the most fun you can have in LOS. It's full of under 25 gals, many without babies, free of plastic surgery, scantily clad, with nasty sexy attitudes, fun loving, and for 1 k ST, yours for a time. Just great compared with any other scene in Thailand these days.
Online scene is also excellent, with Tinder being the app of choice for good looking gals for 1 k ST.
Had to laugh at many of the high end GoGos. Places like Sensations are filled with gruff ill-humored Koreans smoking copious amounts of cigarettes and getting milked to death for drinks by the most mercenary of gals, most of whom are at least 5 kilos or more overweight and appear to have had their plastic surgery done in a butcher shop. Jeez, it's a horror show. And there are dudes paying big money for this? What a laugh. Can still have fun in places like Dollhouse and Electric Blue, although one is still facing very high prices IMHO.
Discos like IBar were also pretty awful. Aside from the awful pop music, they are heaving with young dudes dressed in ridiculous faux hip hop garb and other dudes 'roided our to the max and prancing around like fools in their tank tops, looking for a freebie in order to prove their manhood. FFS, these are the folks we moved 10 k miles to get away from; now they are over here in droves. Certainly makes me yearn for the Pattaya of old when it was pretty much all like minded Western and Japanese mongers.
Of course hotels are still a great bargain, even at holiday time, and farang food is a steal in Patters. Highway is finished so the ride down took only 2 hrs. With Soi 6 still rocking and so many gals available on Tinder et al for 1 k ST, Patters wins over BKK when it comes to gals. Now if it could just shed the human detritus.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2121075]Marilyn Monroe agogo and music Cafe raided last night. Only an identification check.[/QUOTE]Of girls? Guys? I never carry passport just passport card.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2121153]Been awhile, almost half a year since I have been to the beach, and yes, parts are still fun; in fact, way more fun that BKK. Even at this time of year (I was there last weekend), it is not heaving with punters. Yes, there are lots of Chinese tour groups and other unsavoury demographics about, but I am happy to report that Soi 6 is still about the most fun you can have in LOS. It's full of under 25 gals, many without babies, free of plastic surgery, scantily clad, with nasty sexy attitudes, fun loving, and for 1 k ST, yours for a time. Just great compared with any other scene in Thailand these days.
Online scene is also excellent, with Tinder being the app of choice for good looking gals for 1 k ST.
Had to laugh at many of the high end GoGos. Places like Sensations are filled with gruff ill-humored Koreans smoking copious amounts of cigarettes and getting milked to death for drinks by the most mercenary of gals, most of whom are at least 5 kilos or more overweight and appear to have had their plastic surgery done in a butcher shop. Jeez, it's a horror show. And there are dudes paying big money for this? What a laugh. Can still have fun in places like Dollhouse and Electric Blue, although one is still facing very high prices IMHO..[/QUOTE]I found that I had search a bit harder, but Soi 6 still had some great girls.
Personally I like the Discos best, but they can be a bit of a sausage fest.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2121153]Been awhile, almost half a year since I have been to the beach, and yes, parts are still fun; in fact, way more fun that BKK. Even at this time of year (I was there last weekend), it is not heaving with punters. Yes, there are lots of Chinese tour groups and other unsavoury demographics about, but I am happy to report that Soi 6 is still about the most fun you can have in LOS. It's full of under 25 gals, many without babies, free of plastic surgery, scantily clad, with nasty sexy attitudes, fun loving, and for 1 k ST, yours for a time. Just great compared with any other scene in Thailand these days.
Online scene is also excellent, with Tinder being the app of choice for good looking gals for 1 k ST.
Had to laugh at many of the high end GoGos. Places like Sensations are filled with gruff ill-humored Koreans smoking copious amounts of cigarettes and getting milked to death for drinks by the most mercenary of gals, most of whom are at least 5 kilos or more overweight and appear to have had their plastic surgery done in a butcher shop. Jeez, it's a horror show. And there are dudes paying big money for this? What a laugh. Can still have fun in places like Dollhouse and Electric Blue, although one is still facing very high prices IMHO.
Discos like IBar were also pretty awful. Aside from the awful pop music, they are heaving with young dudes dressed in ridiculous faux hip hop garb and other dudes 'roided our to the max and prancing around like fools in their tank tops, looking for a freebie in order to prove their manhood. FFS, these are the folks we moved 10 k miles to get away from; now they are over here in droves. Certainly makes me yearn for the Pattaya of old when it was pretty much all like minded Western and Japanese mongers.
Of course hotels are still a great bargain, even at holiday time, and farang food is a steal in Patters. Highway is finished so the ride down took only 2 hrs. With Soi 6 still rocking and so many gals available on Tinder et al for 1 k ST, Patters wins over BKK when it comes to gals. Now if it could just shed the human detritus.[/QUOTE]Great report! And encouraging, since my 4-5 trips to Pattaya over the past 5 years or so have not been worth the 115 baht bus fare from Bangkok, much less a 1,200+ baht taxi ride. However, I notice among the many positive attributes you applied to the girls in Pattaya, the words "pretty, good-looking, attractive" were not among them except for pics on Tinder. And, although you didn't get into graphic details but only about a party/sexy vibe, the near impossibility for me to find an attractive girl capable of delivering a decent BBBJ+CIM and/or up for a round of BBFS in Pattaya is what had me high-tailing it back to my beloved Bangkok as quickly as possible for some Real GFE sex with good looking women every time.
Did you encounter anything noticeably positive on those, to me, very important fronts during this Pattaya visit? If so, where? Because I sure haven't lately.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121446]Great report! And encouraging, since my 4-5 trips to Pattaya over the past 5 years or so have not been worth the 115 baht bus fare from Bangkok, much less a 1,200+ baht taxi ride. However, I notice among the many positive attributes you applied to the girls in Pattaya, the words "pretty, good-looking, attractive" were not among them except for pics on Tinder. And, although you didn't get into graphic details but only about a party/sexy vibe, the near impossibility for me to find an attractive girl capable of delivering a decent BBBJ+CIM and/or up for a round of BBFS in Pattaya is what had me high-tailing it back to my beloved Bangkok as quickly as possible for some Real GFE sex with good looking women every time.
Did you encounter anything noticeably positive on those, to me, very important fronts during this Pattaya visit? If so, where? Because I sure haven't lately.[/QUOTE]Have a friend that has lived in Pattaya for years now. He is a BBFS aficionado. He has no problem negotiating that on Tinder and when he is at Soi 6. For him a condom is a deal killer. He pointed out quite a few when we were on 6 together. Might cost you an extra 200 Baht though. He always negotiates that up front. I would also imagine if you had the patience for the discos you might do well there. Just not my scene.
Another real bonus in Pattaya is the cheap good farang food. My diet is mainly Asian, but occasionally a good bangers and mash is nice.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2121471]Have a friend that has lived in Pattaya for years now. He is a BBFS aficionado. He has no problem negotiating that on Tinder[/QUOTE]It seems that ET was pretty much saying that everyone in Pattaya is ugly and that you did not speak on how the women looked; you only spoke on the services.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2121507]It seems that ET was pretty much saying that everyone in Pattaya is ugly and that you did not speak on how the women looked; you only spoke on the services.[/QUOTE]Well, not exactly that everyone there is ugly. I just have not seen an available, unattached girl anywhere in Pattaya, including regular girls working in Central Festival or other malls, that would rate above a Bkk 6 in the 4-5 trips I have made there over the past five years with the extremely rare exception of a handful of supposedly Pattaya "Super Stars" in a couple of WS go-go bars.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot]Have a friend that has lived in Pattaya for years now. He is a BBFS aficionado. He has no problem negotiating that on Tinder and when he is at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am sure I could negotiate a BBFS with many of the girls I have seen in Pattaya, the ones on Soi 6 and Walking Street included (not a Tinder user anymore). But the trick is to combine that with a girl of at least the level of attractiveness that I can so much more easily arrange in Bkk without the 2-3 hour travel time each way and renting a hotel room.
Perhaps even worse, though, has been the notable lack of even moderately attractive women in Pattaya capable of or willing to provide (for me, that is) a Bkk standard quality BBBJ+CIM. In my case, living in Bkk as I do, by the time I have paid for the travel to and from Pattaya and the hotel room for a couple of nights, those cheaper prices of 1K here or 1K there wind up costing me a lot more than what a much better experience with a much better looking girl would cost me right around the corner from my apartment in Bkk. And Tinder works here, too, for those who are into Tinder. I am not.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121519]Well, not exactly that everyone there is ugly. I just have not seen an available, unattached girl anywhere in Pattaya, including regular girls working in Central Festival or other malls, that would rate above a Bkk 6 in the 4-5 trips I have made there over the past five years with the extremely rare exception of a handful of supposedly Pattaya "Super Stars" in a couple of WS go-go bars.
Yes, I am sure I could negotiate a BBFS with many of the girls I have seen in Pattaya, the ones on Soi 6 and Walking Street included (not a Tinder user anymore). But the trick is to combine that with a girl of at least the level of attractiveness that I can so much more easily arrange in Bkk without the 2-3 hour travel time each way and renting a hotel room.
Perhaps even worse, though, has been the notable lack of even moderately attractive women in Pattaya capable of or willing to provide (for me, that is) a Bkk standard quality BBBJ+CIM. In my case, living in Bkk as I do, by the time I have paid for the travel to and from Pattaya and the hotel room for a couple of nights, those cheaper prices of 1K here or 1K there wind up costing me a lot more than what a much better experience with a much better looking girl would cost me right around the corner from my apartment in Bkk. And Tinder works here, too, for those who are into Tinder. I am not.[/QUOTE]I would say that overall the "regular" gals in BKK are far superior to those in Pattaya, very true. The other advantage that Soi 6 has in my opinion is that it is still "fun. " All aspects of the BKK P4 P scene are sorely lacking in the fun factor. BKK P4 P for me is pretty much the oilies. Since I have a 10 year plus live-in I don't get gals numbers and don't engage in any online in BKK. I certainly wish we had a Soi 6 style area in BKK. The GoGos and believe it or not, Thermae, used to be a hell of a lot of fun. Not anymore.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2121538]I would say that overall the "regular" gals in BKK are far superior to those in Pattaya, very true. The other advantage that Soi 6 has in my opinion is that it is still "fun. " All aspects of the BKK P4 P scene are sorely lacking in the fun factor. BKK P4 P for me is pretty much the oilies. Since I have a 10 year plus live-in I don't get gals numbers and don't engage in any online in BKK. I certainly wish we had a Soi 6 style area in BKK. The GoGos and believe it or not, Thermae, used to be a hell of a lot of fun. Not anymore.[/QUOTE]I am with you on the fun factor in Pattaya. I still enjoy going there because of its proximity to Bkk as a beach resort. And I have fun when meeting friends there who much prefer it to Bkk for a couple of days.
But when it comes to the P4P event, Pattaya has been pretty much a bust for me compared to Bkk. The only very good or better experiences in that regard I have had there were when I took a Bkk girl with me or went there to meet a Bkk girl who took a normal job in nearby Chon Buri.
20-25 years ago I much preferred Pattaya over Bkk for just about everything. But conditions are such today that it just wouldn't make sense that really good looking young girls who were truly good in bed and counting on that combo to snag a sponsor or make some serious money would set up camp in Pattaya or remain there rather than 2 hours further up the highway. And that apparently applies to regular girls as well as for P4P girls.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2121178]Of girls? Guys? I never carry passport just passport card.[/QUOTE]It's seems for both: "The raiding party led by Pichet Thammahone first went to Marilyn Monroe Agogo where both customers and staff were checked for identification to make sure no one present was under@ge, no one under@ge was present. ".
[URL]https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/local/police-pattaya-carry-raids-two-walking-street-bars/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2121471]Have a friend that has lived in Pattaya for years now. He is a BBFS aficionado. He has no problem negotiating that on Tinder and when he is at Soi 6. For him a condom is a deal killer. He pointed out quite a few when we were on 6 together. Might cost you an extra 200 Baht though. He always negotiates that up front. I would also imagine if you had the patience for the discos you might do well there. Just not my scene.
Another real bonus in Pattaya is the cheap good farang food. My diet is mainly Asian, but occasionally a good bangers and mash is nice.[/QUOTE]Soi 6 BBFS is mostly standard. I suggest getting a HEP be shot and PreP if you want to BBFS. Unless you want a kid, pull out and give it to her down the throat instead.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121562]I am with you on the fun factor in Pattaya. I still enjoy going there because of its proximity to Bkk as a beach resort. And I have fun when meeting friends there who much prefer it to Bkk for a couple of days.
But when it comes to the P4P event, Pattaya has been pretty much a bust for me compared to Bkk. The only very good or better experiences in that regard I have had there were when I took a Bkk girl with me or went there to meet a Bkk girl who took a normal job in nearby Chon Buri.
20-25 years ago I much preferred Pattaya over Bkk for just about everything. But conditions are such today that it just wouldn't make sense that really good looking young girls who were truly good in bed and counting on that combo to snag a sponsor or make some serious money would set up camp in Pattaya or remain there rather than 2 hours further up the highway. And that apparently applies to regular girls as well as for P4P girls.[/QUOTE]My experience = BKK better girls but more expensive and quality of service can vary.
Pattaya = soi 6 is best bang for buck but in the gogos you get better girls and you always get quality service.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2121588]Soi 6 BBFS is mostly standard. I suggest getting a HEP be shot and PreP if you want to BBFS. Unless you want a kid, pull out and give it to her down the throat instead.[/QUOTE]Wow. BBFS is mostly standard and CIM+Swallow is the normal alternative on offer if the customer is concerned about impregnating the girl! I will certainly have to re-visit Soi 6 to check that out for myself.
The last time I shopped on Soi 6 the only half dozen fairly attractive girls I could find ended our drink and chat interview moments by giving me a stern and no joke lecture on what a sick pervert I must be to even suggest that a Thai girl would ever allow a man to simply Cum In her Mouth, much less swallow the cum right down her throat. Not kidding; Soi 6 in Pattaya, at least a half dozen bargirls at a half dozen different bars. Within the past couple of years.
I didn't even maintain enough interest to then ask about the Standard BBFS routinely on offer. But I guess next time I will. Thanks.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2121575]It's seems for both: "The raiding party led by Pichet Thammahone first went to Marilyn Monroe Agogo where both customers and staff were checked for identification to make sure no one present was under@ge, no one under@ge was present. ".
[URL]https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/local/police-pattaya-carry-raids-two-walking-street-bars/[/URL][/QUOTE]As I remember it, the head hocho come like twice a year and the one time they do for sure seem during the Christmas holiday maybe to get the tea money issue straighten out?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121623]Wow. BBFS is mostly standard and CIM+Swallow is the normal alternative on offer if the customer is concerned about impregnating the girl! I will certainly have to re-visit Soi 6 to check that out for myself.
The last time I shopped on Soi 6 the only half dozen fairly attractive girls I could find ended our drink and chat interview moments by giving me a stern and no joke lecture on what a sick pervert I must be to even suggest that a Thai girl would ever allow a man to simply Cum In her Mouth, much less swallow the cum right down her throat. Not kidding; Soi 6 in Pattaya, at least a half dozen bargirls at a half dozen different bars. Within the past couple of years.
I didn't even maintain enough interest to then ask about the Standard BBFS routinely on offer. But I guess next time I will. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Another wow. BBFS, swallow standard from under 25's for a 1000 plus room. Could it be true?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121623]Wow. BBFS is mostly standard and CIM+Swallow is the normal alternative on offer if the customer is concerned about impregnating the girl! I will certainly have to re-visit Soi 6 to check that out for myself.
[/QUOTE]In my experience BBFS mostly standard in soi6 is not true at all, sure is more easy if the girl know you well. CIM is very easy to get in soi6, swallow is depends on the girl but not many will swallow.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2121715]CIM is very easy to get in soi6[/QUOTE]From my experiences, when asking the top 5 best looking girls (young, skinny and cute) on Soi 6, it was very difficult. Most said no. One girl wanted 1500 baht tip instead of 1000 baht to perform CIM.
Assuming it is easy when asking the "normal" girls on Soi 6.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2121733]From my experiences, when asking the top 5 best looking girls (young, skinny and cute) on Soi 6, it was very difficult. Most said no. One girl wanted 1500 baht tip instead of 1000 baht to perform CIM.
Assuming it is easy when asking the "normal" girls on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]It's a first time I heard that a soi6 girl asking a tip for CIM, few girls try to ask tip for anal, but regular 3 holers will make anal without a tip for a regular price.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2121715]CIM is very easy to get in soi6, swallow is depends on the girl but not many will swallow.[/QUOTE]They will if you tickle them after you skeet in their mouth.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2121643]Another wow. BBFS, swallow standard from under 25's for a 1000 plus room. Could it be true?[/QUOTE]From my and, apparently, other posters' experience, the short answer is "no".
Oh, from girls of a certain lower level of attractiveness, my guess is anything goes anytime. But when I targeted the only half dozen or so reasonably good looking girls I spied on Soi 6 that evening, the answer to even an ordinary CIM finish was not just "no", but "Hell no, and here is my standard buzzkill lecture for men who would even dare suggest such a thing to me or any other Thai woman on the planet. " Sure enough, my buzz was so thoroughly killed by their prepared and practiced speeches that I didn't even WANT to find out if BBFS would ever be available with any of them at any price in my lifetime.
By stark contrast, the Nana BKK bargirl I met for the first time last night (an outdoor bar, not a go-go bar) and took for LT about 10 PM was better in every way important to me than any of those half dozen Soi 6 princesses. And the overall cost was less than what I'd likely spend on a 1K deal when it is combined with the transportation to and from and the hotel room, even if 1K miraculously scored an all night LT with one of them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2121756]They will if you tickle them after you skeet in their mouth.[/QUOTE]Or if you super glue their mouth to your dick.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2121715]In my experience BBFS mostly standard in soi6 is not true at all, sure is more easy if the girl know you well. CIM is very easy to get in soi6, swallow is depends on the girl but not many will swallow.[/QUOTE]I don'to know if you guys noticed the "SPICE" condoms lately (what am I thinking LOL). They are from one of those groups promoting condom use etc that came thru last month. They were also in the Philippines too making my life harder. LOL.
Hit Walking Street 2 nights ago and again tonight. Talent has been very weak and definitely much fewer girls than normal in the gogo bars. I came home at 1 am due to frustration both nights so that should say it all. I know many of my girls left for home before Christmas and appears all others have followed suit. Walking Street is packed full of tourists but none actually go in to the bars.
It appears Mandarin agogo has shut down. I didn't read the sign on the door but it wasn't open the other night or tonight. My favorite Mandarin girl was at Infinity.
There was an Indian guy throwing out the 20's at one of the bars. Lots of them. Gogo bars need to learn not to judge a book by its cover.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2122525] I know many of my girls left for home before Christmas and appears all others have followed suit. [/QUOTE]Bangkok night scene can be at its very quietest in the last few days leading up to New Year. Can be very low traffic at 2 in the morning. Tourists may well be down as well, but many Thai people leave for the provinces at around New Year. Can be hard to get a ticket on the buses.
If you have collected enough girls, probably not all will have gone to the province.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2121964]From my and, apparently, other posters' experience, the short answer is "no".
Oh, from girls of a certain lower level of attractiveness, my guess is anything goes anytime. But when I targeted the only half dozen or so reasonably good looking girls I spied on Soi 6 that evening, the answer to even an ordinary CIM finish was not just "no", but "Hell no, and here is my standard buzzkill lecture for men who would even dare suggest such a thing to me or any other Thai woman on the planet. " Sure enough, my buzz was so thoroughly killed by their prepared and practiced speeches that I didn't even WANT to find out if BBFS would ever be available with any of them at any price in my lifetime.
By stark contrast, the Nana BKK bargirl I met for the first time last night (an outdoor bar, not a go-go bar) and took for LT about 10 PM was better in every way important to me than any of those half dozen Soi 6 princesses. And the overall cost was less than what I'd likely spend on a 1K deal when it is combined with the transportation to and from and the hotel room, even if 1K miraculously scored an all night LT with one of them.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm just a handsum man, but I doubt it. Sometimes luck comes into it.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2122764]Maybe I'm just a handsum man, but I doubt it. Sometimes luck comes into it.[/QUOTE]LOL. I guess this shit will never end. If it happened for you then it was because your girl was ugly; if it didn't happen for me it was because she was a beauty queen. YMMV regardless of how the girl looks.
Time really seems to be dragging. I was in LOS 2 months ago, but it seems like 4 months.
Just a few updates since then:
The Trophy Wife is still in contact with me. I guess she is having difficulty finding a rich guy, so she is keeping in touch. Not that I am all that rich (I retired with a nice nest egg, but I am not about to blow it on a woman when I have two kids I adore and who I WILL provide for before any woman), but she made clear she wants the good life and to be able to take care of her mother, aunt and younger sister. Unfortunately for her, her looks are starting to fade as she approaches 40 and her time in the sun is starting to show on her skin. But she is a basically a good girl and has her limits on what she will do. I get tempted, but I am not really inclined to take her on a trip nor support her family. To her credit, she seems content with the occasional text and she is acting simply as a friend.
The girl I met while running away from that strange women on Soi 8 saying she loved me is still texting me as well. Older, pretty for her age, and a GFE pretty much, stopped writing for a while, but recently started. I had almost forgot who she was. I will probably see her again when I return. Not a young hot spinner anymore, but she gave a good, relaxed performance you get from a more mature woman. She is not talking of sex or asking when I will return, so I think she actually likes me, though if I see her again I am sure I will have to pay! But I am sure I can get her off the clock and she will again spend the night. She has been the only provider that I actually enjoyed spending the night with.
The younger woman who showed me around town and had dinner with me and bought me a massage continued to exchange texts with me, but she rarely initiated anything and her responses were often just images. I was deciding she was simply too young for me and that she obviously was not really feeling it with me, but one day I discovered she had canceled her Line account with me. So, boom, it was over. There was no clue she was about to do that, but she is now out of my life, and that is probably for the best. She was not a hooker by any means, and me being so much older would obviously give such a young, professional woman problems, but I had thought she would have told me that while she liked me, I was simply too old for her and being with me would be bad for her career. Oh well. I was getting close to ending it, so her action saved me from having to do that. I was bummed for a about a day, but it was for the best.
The Thai GF continues to text everyday. She is such a sweetheart. This is a woman any normal, sane man would want to marry. She cooks, she cleans, she is smart, she is not after money, and she is becoming like a hooker in bed. (And I have no doubts I took her virginity. She simply wants to please me and we have talked about this for several years, and she was curious about doing these things and she was trying everything out, including swallowing my man gravy.) I am going to have to make a decision about her in 2018, though. I hope my sexual issues with her will be resolved by her V loosening up a bit. I have convincing myself that my problems coming with her were simply her V being so very tight. We guys like to talk about a tight V, but they can be toooo tight I think. Part of the tightness may be due to her being tense as there was still some pain, so I am hoping that the next time we are together things will be better.
Anyway, I can't wait to return to Thailand. It won't be until late April, though, but I am already making plans. Typically I take the GF to Phuket, but we have been there 3 times now so I am ready to go somewhere else. We did spend a few days in Chiang Mai once, but not sure I really want to go back there. Anyone have any suggestions where else to go out of the country? We did go to Singapore for a day, but not sure I want to go back there. Viet Nam perhaps? Cambodia? I would be looking for places to photograph that is not more than a few hours by air. Neither of us are into the nightlife.
Thanks, and I would like to wish all fellow mongerors a great New Year's! Special wishes to Mr T and BB. May the girls be beautiful and the fees be cheap.
FL, please clear your inbox. Tried PM'ing you some destinations to take a girl.
Happy Holidays to you and your virgin too.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2122773]LOL. I guess this shit will never end. If it happened for you then it was because your girl was ugly; if it didn't happen for me it was because she was a beauty queen. YMMV regardless of how the girl looks.[/QUOTE]LOL. Then there is my take on it; if it isn't happening for either one of us with very good looking girls, we are probably in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2122773]LOL. I guess this shit will never end. If it happened for you then it was because your girl was ugly; if it didn't happen for me it was because she was a beauty queen. YMMV regardless of how the girl looks.[/QUOTE]We have long established that you only fuck ugly chicks. Which is fine. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2122525]Hit Walking Street 2 nights ago and again tonight. Talent has been very weak and definitely much fewer girls than normal in the gogo bars. I came home at 1 am due to frustration both nights so that should say it all. I know many of my girls left for home before Christmas and appears all others have followed suit. Walking Street is packed full of tourists but none actually go in to the bars.
It appears Mandarin agogo has shut down. I didn't read the sign on the door but it wasn't open the other night or tonight. My favorite Mandarin girl was at Infinity.
There was an Indian guy throwing out the 20's at one of the bars. Lots of them. Gogo bars need to learn not to judge a book by its cover.[/QUOTE]Any chance many of the girls would have been taken ST or LT before you arrived by the excessive amount of guys aka competition? Just a thought.
I'm headed there on the 19th of Jan hoping the majority of male Christmas tourists will have left town by then.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2122999]We have long established that you only fuck ugly chicks. Which is fine. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]And you posted this about yourself:
" I'm ugly and stink like shit, but I wash up. ".
No wonder!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2117444]I'm pretty happy with my taxi service Pattaya to / from suvarnabhumi for 1000 baht but I do need taxi service often Pattaya to / from BKK. Anyone with a good recommendation around 1200-1300 including tolls?[/QUOTE]Nam's taxi is 1200. All lady drivers. She had things set up perfect. Even the Super Rich stop at no extra charge. Very responsive to contact.
I went on my first trip last Sept. I didn't have any issues with neither of these. Didn't have any luck on Soi 6 in regards to these services. For 1 k might be impossible. I experienced these services multiple times from gogos. No extra charge. Well the extra charge came when I had to visit Med Express on my return. Nothing permanent luckily. I'm a younger guy so went after younger ladies. This is where I had luck. Older ladies always requested cover. Had the most success from the mill and sister gogo Anna. Bit pricey though.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2123403]Nam's taxi is 1200. All lady drivers. She had things set up perfect. Even the Super Rich stop at no extra charge. Very responsive to contact.[/QUOTE]Their site says 1500 to Bangkok. My apologies is my post was not clear. I should have said Bangkok Sukhumvit and not BKK. I pay 1000 to Suvarnabhumi with excellent service.
48 hours a few days ago and with so many options you need a plan to maximize pleasure. But with this hobby you need a plan A and a plan be if you don't catch the right pussy at first. The fun is in the searching for those hidden gems that excite. Arrive BKK late morning and straight to Pattaya by taxi. From recent prior trips I kept in contact with a girl. Classy and different now at Ninja LK Metro. Arranged to meet upon check in at the hotel and she didn't disappoint as usual. As the girl knows me, she is very relaxed and all over me and a real GFE. Then having broken the score, took her out for a GFE afternoon. Walked down Soi 6 but nothing caught my eye; then Hooters for pre evening drink. Made my excuse about meeting a friend and said bye to my banker plan A. Then LK Metro and Walking Street on the hunt in various gogo bars. I intended to see another girl I kept in contact with but I was on the hunt and looking out for girls to book for mid afternoon fun next day. Entered Annabelles where the girl I keep contact with works and oops she seems bit drunk and then tells me she can only do short time! Ok better than nothing but I know this girl is super popular. On the taxi bike back to hotel for ST but she was too drunk so just in out shake it all about and finish quickly. Ok so that was Plan A gone a bit wrong as I intended to spend night with her. No problem as it is still only 1 am so back with her to WS and she went back to her bar and I go on the hunt again. About 2 am entered the Beach Club in WS and yes this place seems to have girls that are having fun and catching the customers eyes unlike many bars where the girls are staring in the distance. A real friendly girl approaches and yup this looks like fun. Off I go with her but instructed her I wanted another for a threesome. Wow she took her job seriously and went with me from bar to bar really searching for another girl to join us and kept making suggestions and laughing. Eventually picked no 2 from Bliss. LT for both. So by his time after hours of drinking decided to eat food with them chat and then best to crash and have a few hours sleep. Banging two girls when so tired and half drunk not great. Best to rest and fire up for the morning. And that's what happened. Woke up and my cock is rock hard and ready to go. Some girls can be in a rush to get away in the morning but these two took their job seriously and let me fuck them both non stop until I couldn't fuck any more. Ok so 24 hours down. Score 4 girls. 24 hours left. English pub in Soi 6 for all day breakfast. Rested and fed. Ready for action. Few drinks in Soi 6 until 4 pm then headed to the Den a Gentlemens club; same owners as Touch gogo in LK. 5-6 girls all average. Ok so a fellow member recommended Kinaree but is 15 minutes away but what the hell lets try and I was not disappointed. Really busy with great atmosphere. Plenty of customers and girls. Spotted my target and bought her a drink. Short time in the back room ok. Back to LK for 7 pm bar opening. Plan A was to meet the regular contact girl from Ninja later to end the trip. But time for one more. Decided to go for a young girl from Paradise gogo. Back to hotel and down to short term business. Back on the taxi bike with her to LK then relaxed a bit then into Ninja. My girl was there waiting for me. Pale blue tiny bikini. DFK and even had my seat reserved. I didn't mind buying her and a few friends drinks and just chilling till 1. 30 pm. Then bar hopped with her a bit in LK. Went to the Office gogo and fuck me there was a real turn on stunner on stage. A smiler with great dance moves. My girl doesn't like threesomes so just watching. Saw her go out and catch a guy outside. Young athletic guy. She had the looks and ability to catch her target guy and sure enough he bar fined her. Then with my girl we went to Crystal gogo. Told my girl hey that girl there dancing is very sexy and she said yes she's my cousin LOL!! So just chilling having drinks with her and her cousin. My girl laughing as she knew I fancied her cousin also. Back on taxi bike at closing time with my girl. This girl really turned me on with her attitude and GFE. Fucked her until fell asleep. Woke up mid morning and fucked her again. Then she saw me to the taxi to BKK. So 48 hours. 6 girls and great fun. Pity I didn't see the gems in the Office and Crystal in LK on the first night LOL. But backs up my theory arrive early in the bars and always keep hunting for those gems. I love the fun of hunting in the gogo bars. I don't know why they don't tell the girls to try and get eye contact with the guys when they come into the bars. For most of us that's a real turn on. Until next time.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2123201]And you posted this about yourself:
" I'm ugly and stink like shit, but I wash up. ".
No wonder![/QUOTE]There are few things more sad and pathetic than a monger who thinks prostitutes in Pattaya respond to him because of his good looks and charms.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2123410]I went on my first trip last Sept. I didn't have any issues with neither of these. Didn't have any luck on Soi 6 in regards to these services. For 1 k might be impossible. I experienced these services multiple times from gogos. No extra charge. Well the extra charge came when I had to visit Med Express on my return. Nothing permanent luckily. I'm a younger guy so went after younger ladies. This is where I had luck. Older ladies always requested cover. Had the most success from the mill and sister gogo Anna. Bit pricey though.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I'll have a look at that. All I can say is Soi6 has treated me well. I much prefer the GoGo bars myself, much better quality ladies.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2123495]There are few things more sad and pathetic than a monger who thinks prostitutes in Pattaya respond to him because of his good looks and charms.[/QUOTE]You can extend that sentiment to mongers worldwide.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2123467]Their site says 1500 to Bangkok. My apologies is my post was not clear. I should have said Bangkok Sukhumvit and not BKK. I pay 1000 to Suvarnabhumi with excellent service.[/QUOTE]Bangkok city. Pattaya 1200 baht [URL]http://www.pttaxiservice.com/[/URL] they are a bit slow to answer, so better to booking your taxi a few days in advance.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2123410]I went on my first trip last Sept. I didn't have any issues with neither of these. Didn't have any luck on Soi 6 in regards to these services. For 1 k might be impossible. I experienced these services multiple times from gogos. No extra charge. Well the extra charge came when I had to visit Med Express on my return. Nothing permanent luckily. I'm a younger guy so went after younger ladies. This is where I had luck. Older ladies always requested cover. Had the most success from the mill and sister gogo Anna. Bit pricey though.[/QUOTE]BBFS is certainly possible on Soi 6. It helps if the girl knows you. Just please, don't spread any diseases, guys.
I have no experience with CIM in Pattaya. I have enough issues with CIV! But an encounter or two on Soi 6 makes me think it is possible, but the girl has to be comfortable with you I suppose.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2122939]FL, please clear your inbox. Tried PM'ing you some destinations to take a girl.
Happy Holidays to you and your virgin too.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that! The box is cleared. Thanks, and thanks in advance for the listing.
And, you mean me and my ex-virgin! She is sending me sexy photos of other girls. Wow, how many western girls would do that? Not many. She knows I have a weakness for cute Japanese girls in school girl outfits, and she has been feeding that fantasy with pictures. Thank God for cosplay conventions!
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2123532]Bangkok city. Pattaya 1200 baht [URL]http://www.pttaxiservice.com/[/URL] they are a bit slow to answer, so better to booking your taxi a few days in advance.[/QUOTE]Has anyone tried the Devil'Den VIP Bus service?
Could be fun.
I'm visiting Thailand beginning of Feb. For about a week for the first time ever. I'm debating if I should spend majority of that time in Bangkok and some in Pattaya, or all in Bangkok and none in Pattaya. I hear Pattaya is the sex capital in terms of industry and also where there are fun beaches but everything I'm reading here on this forum and elsewhere implies it's not as good a scene anymore. Granted I've read a few good reports that indicate otherwise but I'm unsure if I'm better off in Bangkok or if it's still worth coming for a day or two.
I only have six days total and I love bars drinking and the scene. I'm interested in attractive girls with decent service over not so attractive with great service (hence I'm into escort scene which seems stronger in Bangkok). It sounds like threesome and other debauchery is easier in Pattaya.
Thoughts? Is it still great and the forums are just downtrodden or hiding the gems?
Also if I go is it better to spend weekend in Bangkok or Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Sedition;2123639]Also if I go is it better to spend weekend in Bangkok or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Go and find out for yourself. Not like you need to book a hotel before you go. Or book a hotel for 1 day to see how you like the place. If you don't like it leave. I don't know about all the fun beaches that you heard about, but going back and forth on the internet will not lead you to a eureka moment. If I say how great Pattaya is and the next poster comes along and says how much Pattaya sux, you still do not know shit because you have never been.
[QUOTE=Sedition;2123639]I'm visiting Thailand beginning of Feb. For about a week for the first time ever. I'm debating if I should spend majority of that time in Bangkok and some in Pattaya, or all in Bangkok and none in Pattaya. I hear Pattaya is the sex capital in terms of industry and also where there are fun beaches but everything I'm reading here on this forum and elsewhere implies it's not as good a scene anymore. Granted I've read a few good reports that indicate otherwise but I'm unsure if I'm better off in Bangkok or if it's still worth coming for a day or two.
I only have six days total and I love bars drinking and the scene. I'm interested in attractive girls with decent service over not so attractive with great service (hence I'm into escort scene which seems stronger in Bangkok). It sounds like threesome and other debauchery is easier in Pattaya.
Thoughts? Is it still great and the forums are just downtrodden or hiding the gems?
Also if I go is it better to spend weekend in Bangkok or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]If you under 32 and are a good looking guy, and also have at least baht 6 K / day for drinks and girls, then BKK may be better for you.
If you are a lot older, have limited game, and less than 4 K / day for drinks and girls, but still want attractive girls, then Pattaya is a better bet. Just my 2 cents.
If you are there for just 6 days, a lot is luck and also your experience and knack with these kinds of girls in Thailand. Focus on one location, and gaining experience in that location. It wiill pay off after day 3-4, if you are a quick learner. Pattaya has more options. For those with less experience in Thailand and lack of prior contacts with the local girls.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2123671]If you under 32 and are a good looking guy, and also have at least baht 6 K / day for drinks and girls, then BKK may be better for you.
If you are a lot older, have limited game, and less than 4 K / day for drinks and girls, but still want attractive girls, then Pattaya is a better bet. Just my 2 cents.
If you are there for just 6 days, a lot is luck and also your experience and knack with these kinds of girls in Thailand. Focus on one location, and gaining experience in that location. It wiill pay off after day 3-4, if you are a quick learner. Pattaya has more options. For those with less experience in Thailand and lack of prior contacts with the local girls.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Bangkok is a better bet. Really good point about hit or miss with each place but worth learning the location.
I'm under 32 with some game and don't mind spending money to have a good time. Sounds like Bangkok also since escort scene there exists vs Pattaya.
At Mrenternational good point. I'll consider doing a day trip for one day to Pattaya once I enjoy Bangkok a few days.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2123671]If you under 32 and are a good looking guy, and also have at least baht 6 K / day for drinks and girls, then BKK may be better for you.[/QUOTE]If you are under 32 and a good looking guy, probably the best thing for you is nowhere near Bangkok or Patts. It would be away from the farang tourist destinations. As a young man, you would have the allure of the farang working to the maximum with the young local women. Its said been said that Thailand is not the best place for a Westerner to date because it is inundated with foreigners and girls are used to them. But, up north in Phitsanulok, I saw maybe one farang, a tall, blonde, backpacker who was probably good fodder for some other young backpacker male. Never made it to Isaan, but I understand that in some cities the women are much more approachable and friendly than in BKK. They don't get many farang there. I remember riding a rental bike around the Old Sukhothai National Park and encountering a pack of early teen (school girls who were on some school field trip (in matching workout suits in the humid heat!) They made a point of smiling and waving and saying "Hello!" to this old farang.
Those girls were the same age as my handsome son, and it occurred to me that if he'd been there, they would have be all over him. He doesn't know it yet, but I plan to buy him a ticket to somewhere SE Asia when he graduates from high school. What he does is up to him. He has a lot more options than I would and at a much lower cost, that's for sure. He could subsist on backpacker sluts from Europe and Australia easily if he took the hostel route. I traveled Europe when I was young on a shoestring budget. I met cute Euro girls and had a lot of opportunities that I lost as I matured. I don't think that game has changed much. Its only gotten bigger for the young male.
[QUOTE=Sedition;2123639]I'm visiting Thailand beginning of Feb. For about a week for the first time ever. I'm debating if I should spend majority of that time in Bangkok and some in Pattaya, or all in Bangkok and none in Pattaya.
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Also if I go is it better to spend weekend in Bangkok or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I was actually faced with this question / situation last year and ended up doing both. My recommendation would be to do weekdays / weeknights in Pattaya and weekends in BKK as I find the scene (particularly freelancers at Thermae or clubs) much less interesting in BKK during the week. I would also hesitate to tell someone to do only Pattaya if they have never been to BKK before because:
1) BKK is a legitimate international city with other things to do / see.
2) I did not find Pattaya to be that interesting outside of the bar and nightlife scene with much less non-mongering activities. The food is also not even close to the same level as BKK has tons of top tier restaurants also down to one of the best street food scenes.
I have since done all-BKK weeks and all-Pattaya weeks, but for a first timer would recommend splitting it so you can get a sense for both places and make a more informed decision next time.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2123688]If you are under 32 and a good looking guy, probably the best thing for you is nowhere near Bangkok or Patts. It would be away from the farang tourist destinations. As a young man, you would have the allure of the farang working to the maximum with the young local women. Its said been said that Thailand is not the best place for a Westerner to date because it is inundated with foreigners and girls are used to them. But, up north in Phitsanulok, I saw maybe one farang, a tall, blonde, backpacker who was probably good fodder for some other young backpacker male. Never made it to Isaan, but I understand that in some cities the women are much more approachable and friendly than in BKK. They don't get many farang there. I remember riding a rental bike around the Old Sukhothai National Park and encountering a pack of early teen (school girls who were on some school field trip (in matching workout suits in the humid heat!) They made a point of smiling and waving and saying "Hello!" to this old farang.
Those girls were the same age as my handsome son, and it occurred to me that if he'd been there, they would have be all over him. He doesn't know it yet, but I plan to buy him a ticket to somewhere SE Asia when he graduates from high school. What he does is up to him. He has a lot more options than I would and at a much lower cost, that's for sure. He could subsist on backpacker sluts from Europe and Australia easily if he took the hostel route. I traveled Europe when I was young on a shoestring budget. I met cute Euro girls and had a lot of opportunities that I lost as I matured. I don't think that game has changed much. Its only gotten bigger for the young male.[/QUOTE]Great advice though I'm brown (Indian born in France and raised in US, living in Cali) so I don't think I have the farang appeal and the Indian reputation would hurt me. I'll probably be trying to avoid acknowledging I'm Indian and just point at being French and living in us for punting with people who get worried about it.
[QUOTE=Sedition;2123639]I'm visiting Thailand beginning of Feb. For about a week for the first time ever. I'm debating if I should spend majority of that time in Bangkok and some in Pattaya, or all in Bangkok and none in Pattaya. I hear Pattaya is the sex capital in terms of industry and also where there are fun beaches but everything I'm reading here on this forum and elsewhere implies it's not as good a scene anymore. Granted I've read a few good reports that indicate otherwise but I'm unsure if I'm better off in Bangkok or if it's still worth coming for a day or two.
I only have six days total and I love bars drinking and the scene. I'm interested in attractive girls with decent service over not so attractive with great service (hence I'm into escort scene which seems stronger in Bangkok). It sounds like threesome and other debauchery is easier in Pattaya.
Thoughts? Is it still great and the forums are just downtrodden or hiding the gems?
Also if I go is it better to spend weekend in Bangkok or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Hi.
Like yourself I am making my first trip to Thailand early Feb and again only for 1 week. After a few months of RTFF and talking to other guys I worked out that Pattaya would be best for me as everything is closer and the place is geared for full on mongering. What my plan is to go direct to Pattaya from the airport on the Saturday and stay in Pattaya until the Thursday afternoon and then spend until Saturday evening in Bangkok until my flight leaves.
In regards to the scene I personally don't have any references to Pattaya in the 1990's or any other era and I think paying 800 TBH to 3000 TBH is ok with me as my only other Asian comparison is Bali where the cost is about 2500 TBH.
I'm sure there will be naked girls dancing around some of the joints and that blow jobs in the bar will also happen so I'm not fazed.
Your choice of girl may be the deciding factor as in the high class escort scene and I'm not sure what it has to offer as I'm ok with average looking girls who like to have fun so looks aren't that important to me as the experience9 I have a wife so I'm not in the market for a stunner but a **** who will fuck me stupid).
My opinion and reasoning for my decision on locations. If you want to catch up for a beer I will be in Pattaya from 3rd February until the 8th and Bangkok from the 8th until the 10th.
All the best.
Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2123815]Hi.
Like yourself I am making my first trip to Thailand early Feb and again only for 1 week. After a few months of RTFF and talking to other guys I worked out that Pattaya would be best for me as everything is closer and the place is geared for full on mongering. What my plan is to go direct to Pattaya from the airport on the Saturday and stay in Pattaya until the Thursday afternoon and then spend until Saturday evening in Bangkok until my flight leaves.
In regards to the scene I personally don't have any references to Pattaya in the 1990's or any other era and I think paying 800 TBH to 3000 TBH is ok with me as my only other Asian comparison is Bali where the cost is about 2500 TBH.
I'm sure there will be naked girls dancing around some of the joints and that blow jobs in the bar will also happen so I'm not fazed.
Your choice of girl may be the deciding factor as in the high class escort scene and I'm not sure what it has to offer as I'm ok with average looking girls who like to have fun so looks aren't that important to me as the experience9 I have a wife so I'm not in the market for a stunner but a **** who will fuck me stupid)..[/QUOTE]Interesting. The dates you'll be in Bangkok are when I get into Bangkok so no chance of Pattaya overlap. I'll PM you when I get closer to coordinate meeting up, would totally be down to grab a drink.
NRock, good points, I already booked a week at dream hotel in Bangkok but I can always slip away to Pattaya and find some cheap hotels for the sake of checking out the Pattaya scene for a day or so.
[QUOTE=NRock;2123699]I was actually faced with this question / situation last year and ended up doing both. My recommendation would be to do weekdays / weeknights in Pattaya and weekends in BKK as I find the scene (particularly freelancers at Thermae or clubs) much less interesting in BKK during the week. I would also hesitate to tell someone to do only Pattaya if they have never been to BKK before because:
1) BKK is a legitimate international city with other things to do / see.
2) I did not find Pattaya to be that interesting outside of the bar and nightlife scene with much less non-mongering activities. The food is also not even close to the same level as BKK has tons of top tier restaurants also down to one of the best street food scenes.
I have since done all-BKK weeks and all-Pattaya weeks, but for a first timer would recommend splitting it so you can get a sense for both places and make a more informed decision next time.[/QUOTE]I found BKK too much to deal with my first trip. Didn't enjoy it. Now, I kinda like BKK, but its much nicer in Pattaya.
Sorry for adding to the non-review topic on this thread but the answer is quite simple IMHO. BKK for 2 days, then to Pattaya for 2 days. Decide then which you prefer to stay for the balance of your 1 week. You will usually need to spend your final night in BKK anyways to fly out of Suvarnabhumi or DMK.
Imo the best gogo bar area in BKK is Patpong by a mile. Girls aren't robotic like Nana and Cowboy. DFK is a given. In Pattaya it's Walking Street with a few exceptions in LK Metro.
If food, shopping, doing non mongering things are part of your plan, it's BKK hands down. Pattaya has nothing to do other than monger. I live here for the gogo bars and travel to nicer places like Singapore and Vietnam to wind down.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2123851]I found BKK too much to deal with my first trip. Didn't enjoy it. Now, I kinda like BKK, but its much nicer in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
I think I kind of feel the same way. Done about 20 trips to BKK in the past 2.5 years and I don't hate it like I used to.
[QUOTE=Sedition;2123639]I'm visiting Thailand beginning of Feb. For about a week for the first time ever. I'm debating if I should spend majority of that time in Bangkok and some in Pattaya, or all in Bangkok and none in Pattaya. I hear Pattaya is the sex capital in terms of industry and also where there are fun beaches but everything I'm reading here on this forum and elsewhere implies it's not as good a scene anymore. Granted I've read a few good reports that indicate otherwise but I'm unsure if I'm better off in Bangkok or if it's still worth coming for a day or two..[/QUOTE]Both places are within a few hours on the bus (which is cheap), so it is more than feasible to do both. In fact, you could easily bounce back and forth between the two on a daily basis. One could check out of your hotel at noon, catch one of those hourly buses and be at your new hotel at check in time. I'm not suggesting you do that, but I wanted to emphasize how easy it is. Keep your schedule open and be ready to bounce when you feel the urge. Nobody will be standing over you, minding the time.
Bangkok has other things to see and do beside mongering. In the evenings, check out Nana and Soi Cowboy. If you find it not your style (as I did), then troll Sukhumvit for some cheap street meat (its more fun than you think).
I was only in Patts for two full days and two nights. I wished I had another day to spend in Patts, but I think after four nights I would have gotten tired of the place. Many others have similar sentiments. Pattaya can get tiring and you might need a break. Still others can spend three weeks there and still not want to leave. BTW, the beach in Pattaya is not where you want to swim. Its just part of the scenery, not something you want to wade in. You will want to drift further down the coast for that. Much further.
I don't think you need to resort to escorts to find the most attractive girls. Nobody has ever accused them of having the hottest girls in Thailand. I'm sure you will find those in certain gogos. Escorts are not big in BKK and for a good reason. There are too many flesh buffets to chose what you want to take home, so why do you want to go to a website and order take in?
Don't be afraid to take in some culture and do some touristy stuff. Head up to Ayatthaya for a night and see the ruins of an ancient civilization or head to some place where the beaches are actually nice. It doesn't hurt to give your testicles and prostate a chance to recharge. I guess that depends on your age. But most people will either need or benefit from a break from drinking and f*cking all day, and maybe get some fresh air while your body gets rested for another vice binge.
So, due to work in Bangkok and Pattaya, my assistant is traveling with me. She's a young, very attractive lesbian and will be traveling with her tom-style girlfriend. Both are Chinese and fluent in English.
My assistant and I are also pretty close with each other that we know one another playtime indiscretions, as it were. She and her GF frequent the les bars here in Shanghai.
So, although I am committing the cardinal sin of bringing not one but two girls with me to Pattaya, they want to go out and play. Both alone and with me (not in the bedroom though, haha, which is not what I want anyway. A good loyal assistant is not worth risking).
My research indicates there's not les-specific bars per se like the gay areas like boystown, and that most les tourists are best served by the gogo bars and just asking what's up. I'm inquiring here today to see if any of our more experienced brethren know of anyplace specific I can take my pals. Or send them off to when I want my alone time.
They are equally excited about Cartoon Network Amazone Waterpark. They are after all mid-20's Chinese girls.
Uncle Ira.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2124155]Both places are within a few hours on the bus (which is cheap), so it is more than feasible to do b
Bangkok has other things to see and do beside mongering. In the evenings, check out Nana and Soi Cowboy. If you find it not your style (as I did), then troll Sukhumvit for some cheap street meat (its more fun than you think).
will either need or benefit from a break from drinking and f*cking all day, and maybe get some fresh air while your body gets rested for another vice binge.[/QUOTE]Good points. I'll give it a try and take some time off to enjoy the area too. Thanks!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124014]Snip. Imo the best gogo bar area in BKK is Patpong by a mile. Girls aren't robotic like Nana and Cowboy. DFK is a given. In Pattaya it's Walking Street with a few exceptions in LK Metro. Snip.[/QUOTE]Based on positive reports about Patpong (mostly by you, if I recall correctly) I went there on a Wednesday between 8:30 and 9:30 PM when I was there last November/December. I peeked into all the first floor bars in Patpong 1 and 2. There were never more than 8-10 girls on stage and 3-4 customers in any of them. The girls all wore bikinis whose tops looked like sports bras, covering everything up to their navel practically, and bottoms which fully covered their butt cheeks. The scene was unbelievably bad and I did not stop in to any of them except Safari because there were two white girls dancing on stage (obviously strippers from the way they pole danced) for some reason. Watching them dance while the Thai girls stood there on stage looking at them dance was like observing two different species, the difference in face and body was so great. After the white girls got off the stage they sat down and a few minutes later were invited by some guy on the other side of the bar to sit and drink with him, which they did. I don't know if they left with him because I left soon after.
Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy bars at 9 PM on a Wednesday night would be full of girls and customers. When are you going that Patpong bars beat them by a mile?
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2124268]Based on positive reports about Patpong (mostly by you, if I recall correctly) I went there on a Wednesday between 8:30 and 9:30 PM when I was there last November/December. I peeked into all the first floor bars in Patpong 1 and 2. There were never more than 8-10 girls on stage and 3-4 customers in any of them. The girls all wore bikinis whose tops looked like sports bras, covering everything up to their navel practically, and bottoms which fully covered their butt cheeks. The scene was unbelievably bad and I did not stop in to any of them except Safari because there were two white girls dancing on stage (obviously strippers from the way they pole danced) for some reason. Watching them dance while the Thai girls stood there on stage looking at them dance was like observing two different species, the difference in face and body was so great. After the white girls got off the stage they sat down and a few minutes later were invited by some guy on the other side of the bar to sit and drink with him, which they did. I don't know if they left with him because I left soon after.
Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy bars at 9 PM on a Wednesday night would be full of girls and customers. When are you going that Patpong bars beat them by a mile?[/QUOTE]I have never provided an actual report on my Patpong outings before that I recall.
King's Castle (not sure if it's 1 or 2 but it's the larger one) had over 50 girls every time I popped in. Pink Panther has a lot of girls. As for customers you can't find a seat in ether of those 2 bars, especially KC. My other favorite on the first trip was Black Pagoda and that's on the 3rd floor. BP has not been good since that trip.
How does it blow away nana and Cowboy? How many girls at Nana and Cowboy have you received DFK and lots of hands on action by both you and the girl sometimes even BEFORE you buy them a drink? My favorite 2 girls at KC1 are as pretty as anyone at Baccara, Rainbow, Twisters, Billboard. My favorite girl at Black Pagoda who seems to be missing now was better. I usually go at 10 pm after I make a round at Thermae first. As for nudity on stage, not important for me. I'll get to the good stuff while I'm drinking with them.
Yes, most of the bars are small and have few girls. Bada Bing is one of those but there are a couple of decent girls there for my taste.
I will chime in too.
I live in Patts now. I recommend you have a fairly open plan, first stay in BKK 1-2 nights, then come to Pattaya for at least one night. See if you like it, if you do, stay. If you get bored, go back to Bangkok early and spend the remaining time there.
I had one bro do this, he came to Pattaya and then wished he hadn't even stayed in BKK a few nights. But each to his own.
All said it true, obv. Bangkok is a big city and lots to do. But lots of traffic too. Pattaya has girls, go the beach in Jomtien if you need to, and yes there are some nice gems to eat at. Hit me up for drinks if you like, I'm American BTW.
[QUOTE=Sedition;2123639]I'm visiting Thailand beginning of Feb. For about a week for the first time ever. I'm debating if I should spend majority of that time in Bangkok and some in Pattaya, or all in Bangkok and none in Pattaya. I hear Pattaya is the sex capital in terms of industry and also where there are fun beaches but everything I'm reading here on this forum and elsewhere implies it's not as good a scene anymore. Granted I've read a few good reports that indicate otherwise but I'm unsure if I'm better off in Bangkok or if it's still worth coming for a day or two.
I only have six days total and I love bars drinking and the scene. I'm interested in attractive girls with decent service over not so attractive with great service (hence I'm into escort scene which seems stronger in Bangkok). It sounds like threesome and other debauchery is easier in Pattaya.
Thoughts? Is it still great and the forums are just downtrodden or hiding the gems?
Also if I go is it better to spend weekend in Bangkok or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
For once I decided to try LT with a Soi 6. She was from Ruby Club which I have always found has enthusiastic girls. At least for the first 60 minutes!
We hit a few bars, went clubbing and finally returned to the Areca. She had a shower first and when I had showered was collapsed on the bed asleep. I managed to manhandle into bed.
To her credit she awoke six hours later and was a very enthusiastic performer.
Total damage was 3000 baht plus drinks. Not cheap for Soi 6 but worth the effort.
[QUOTE=IraJohnson;2124233]So, due to work in Bangkok and Pattaya, my assistant is traveling with me. She's a young, very attractive lesbian and will be traveling with her tom-style girlfriend. Both are Chinese and fluent in English.
My assistant and I are also pretty close with each other that we know one another playtime indiscretions, as it were. She and her GF frequent the les bars here in Shanghai.
So, although I am committing the cardinal sin of bringing not one but two girls with me to Pattaya, they want to go out and play. Both alone and with me (not in the bedroom though, haha, which is not what I want anyway. A good loyal assistant is not worth risking).
My research indicates there's not les-specific bars per se like the gay areas like boystown, and that most les tourists are best served by the gogo bars and just asking what's up. I'm inquiring here today to see if any of our more experienced brethren know of anyplace specific I can take my pals. Or send them off to when I want my alone time.
They are equally excited about Cartoon Network Amazone Waterpark. They are after all mid-20's Chinese girls.
Uncle Ira.[/QUOTE]From what I've seen, some of the Thai working girls are willing to go both ways (I've seen them accept offers from couples so I assume they are willing to please the girl). You'll (or they) will of course need to ask the girl, or even better, ask Mamasan as she will likely know what her girls are into. Note that they might have problems or have to pay extra when bringing a third person into their hotel room. In Bangkok there are lesbian oriented bars and clubs.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124281]I have never provided an actual report on my Patpong outings before that I recall.
King's Castle (not sure if it's 1 or 2 but it's the larger one) had over 50 girls every time I popped in. Pink Panther has a lot of girls. As for customers you can't find a seat in ether of those 2 bars, especially KC. My other favorite on the first trip was Black Pagoda and that's on the 3rd floor. BP has not been good since that trip.
How does it blow away nana and Cowboy? How many girls at Nana and Cowboy have you received DFK and lots of hands on action by both you and the girl sometimes even BEFORE you buy them a drink? My favorite 2 girls at KC1 are as pretty as anyone at Baccara, Rainbow, Twisters, Billboard. My favorite girl at Black Pagoda who seems to be missing now was better. I usually go at 10 pm after I make a round at Thermae first. As for nudity on stage, not important for me. I'll get to the good stuff while I'm drinking with them.
Yes, most of the bars are small and have few girls. Bada Bing is one of those but there are a couple of decent girls there for my taste.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I should have written positive posts rather than positive reports. From my experience and your experiences we can conclude that Patpong is a wasteland before 10 PM and booming after 10 PM, so one should only visit there after 10 PM or later. Perhaps all the Patpong gogo girls are in Thaniya Street till 10 PM and then go to the gogos, as there seemed to be hundreds of girls sitting outside the bars on that street around 9 PM.
[QUOTE=IraJohnson;2124233]My research indicates there's not les-specific bars per se like the gay areas like boystown, and that most les tourists are best served by the gogo bars and just asking what's up. I'm inquiring here today to see if any of our more experienced brethren know of anyplace specific I can take my pals. Or send them off to when I want my alone time.[/QUOTE]The go-go bars are the best places to get quality girls for lesbian stuff. You just have to keep asking since not all girls will do it. You can also ask the mammasan or waitress which girls are willing or if there are bi-sexual girls around. I have seen lesbian tourist pick up girls at go-go bars.
IMO, the easiest place for raunchy lesbian stuff (including lesbian rimming), will be My Friends bar on Soi 6. Most / all girls at that bar should accept. But note that most girls are on the ugly side. IMO, 2 or 3 are not ugly.
You also have Devil's Den in Pattaya. Similar to Bankgkok's Eden Club. You go there and choose 2 girls to do all that stuff. But, IMO, most girls are on the ugly side.
[QUOTE=IraJohnson;2124233]
My research indicates there's not les-specific bars per se like the gay areas like boystown, and that most les tourists are best served by the gogo bars and just asking what's up. I'm inquiring here today to see if any of our more experienced brethren know of anyplace specific I can take my pals. Or send them off to when I want my alone time.
[/QUOTE]You could check this website [URL]http://www.thailandredcat.com/top-3-best-lesbian-tom-clubs-in-bangkok-pattaya-thailand/[/URL].
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2124539]Sorry, I should have written positive posts rather than positive reports. From my experience and your experiences we can conclude that Patpong is a wasteland before 10 PM and booming after 10 PM, so one should only visit there after 10 PM or later. Perhaps all the Patpong gogo girls are in Thaniya Street till 10 PM and then go to the gogos, as there seemed to be hundreds of girls sitting outside the bars on that street around 9 PM.[/QUOTE]I have yet to see much talent on Thaniya Road or the couple of bars I managed to get in to. I do find Patpong to have a short window of opportunity as clubs start dying out after the market closes. However, my favorite Patpong bar keeps rocking until closing time.
Some Pattaya news. Seems like Bad Girls, Infinity's sister club, is now closed. Pretty sure the Bad Girls girls will just move back to Infinity. Issue with the bar is it was just too small.
Happy to report that it appears the gogo bars seem to be getting back to normal now. It's been tough going with very few girls at many bars since Christmas when some bars have been running at about 30% of the number of girls.
[QUOTE=CleanShave;2124493]For once I decided to try LT with a Soi 6. She was from Ruby Club which I have always found has enthusiastic girls. At least for the first 60 minutes!
We hit a few bars, went clubbing and finally returned to the Areca. She had a shower first and when I had showered was collapsed on the bed asleep. I managed to manhandle into bed.
To her credit she awoke six hours later and was a very enthusiastic performer.
Total damage was 3000 baht plus drinks. Not cheap for Soi 6 but worth the effort.[/QUOTE]For me, I'd pay extra to not have to sex foot in a GoGo bar. I don't know who considers those things fun. They are exciting for about 5 minutes, but beyond that they're awful. You can't sit and enjoy a beer because the waitress will be all " YOU BUY MORE BEER NOW YOU BUY BEER BUY BEER BUY BEER". Like they want to get you drunk. On soi 6 I can have a beer, relax, pick a girl. No rush.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2124539]Sorry, I should have written positive posts rather than positive reports. [/QUOTE]The reason I didn't write a review was it was at the time Monkeypaw and a few others were arguing on the Bangkok thread. I figured why waste time writing a full review only to have it buried the same day. Now that my experience is more than a week old I figure it's outdated. Which clubs are good and bad change daily / weekly in Pattaya and Bangkok.
I just noticed your visit was around Christmas / New years. Imo the absolute slowest time of the year to be in Thailand.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124633]
I just noticed your visit was around Christmas / New years. Imo the absolute slowest time of the year to be in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I'm confused by your starment that says "Christmas / New Years is the absolute slowest time of the year to be in Thailand".
Because I've always thought just the opposite. And it's the highest season according to the hotel rates and tourist counts.
Do you mean something completely different that I'm not getting?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124619]I have yet to see much talent on Thaniya Road or the couple of bars I managed to get in to. I do find Patpong to have a short window of opportunity as clubs start dying out after the market closes. However, my favorite Patpong bar keeps rocking until closing time.
Some Pattaya news. Seems like Bad Girls, Infinity's sister club, is now closed. Pretty sure the Bad Girls girls will just move back to Infinity. Issue with the bar is it was just too small.
Happy to report that it appears the gogo bars seem to be getting back to normal now. It's been tough going with very few girls at many bars since Christmas when some bars have been running at about 30% of the number of girls.[/QUOTE]This is the price the clubs pay when they use many or exclusive Agency girls on 10-14 day contract. When the holiday period comes they have the freedom to take off and go home and return when it is all over. Not sure if Bad Girls is closed due to size, there are clubs just as small, in my opinion the layout was bad, rotating girls back and forth, in the end it is the girls and not sure BF was on the high size especially if it doesn't warrant it vs the girls. Might have mixed up the BF, since it was around the same time I hit Yes and Center?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2124642]This is the price the clubs pay when they use many or exclusive Agency girls on 10-14 day contract. When the holiday period comes they have the freedom to take off and go home and return when it is all over. Not sure if Bad Girls is closed due to size, there are clubs just as small, in my opinion the layout was bad, rotating girls back and forth, in the end it is the girls and not sure BF was on the high size especially if it doesn't warrant it vs the girls. Might have mixed up the BF, since it was around the same time I hit Yes and Center?[/QUOTE]I'm sure barfine was 1500 for gogo girls and 2000 for "models", the same as it is at Infinity. There were 2 really nice girls at Bad Girls. Hopefully they just hop over to Infinity.
Can someone please explain to me what the definition of an "Agency girl" is?
[QUOTE=David2;2124638]Because I've always thought just the opposite. And it's the highest season according to the hotel rates and tourist counts.
[/QUOTE]High season for tourists. I was referring to the number of girls who take approximately Dec. 24 to Jan. 3 or longer off. A couple of my gogo girls aren't returning for a month.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124633]The reason I didn't write a review was it was at the time Monkeypaw and a few others were arguing on the Bangkok thread. I figured why waste time writing a full review only to have it buried the same day. Now that my experience is more than a week old I figure it's outdated. Which clubs are good and bad change daily / weekly in Pattaya and Bangkok.
I just noticed your visit was around Christmas / New years. Imo the absolute slowest time of the year to be in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Actually I was there from 11/27 to 12/10, so my experience was not affected by the Christmas / New year's slowdown.
I was at a bar on soi 6 with a pretty 24 year old. I bought her a drink, she was standing leaning into my lap. I was a little handy, took a peak at her nipples. She was rubbing on my pecker. I asked about taking her to my motel. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, so said, let's boom boom here. She said to come back tommorrow, no boom boom today. I asked why, but didn't really get an answer.
What might be the reasons? Does it sound odd or just one of those things?
Thanks for any insight.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2124681]I was at a bar on soi 6 with a pretty 24 year old. I bought her a drink, she was standing leaning into my lap. I was a little handy, took a peak at her nipples. She was rubbing on my pecker. I asked about taking her to my motel. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, so said, let's boom boom here. She said to come back tommorrow, no boom boom today. I asked why, but didn't really get an answer.
What might be the reasons? Does it sound odd or just one of those things?
Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]On her period perhaps?
[QUOTE=RobJones;2124697]On her period perhaps?[/QUOTE]Unlikely, since she was willing to fuck him in his hotel, which he declined because of the price.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2124681]I was at a bar on soi 6 with a pretty 24 year old. I bought her a drink, she was standing leaning into my lap. I was a little handy, took a peak at her nipples. She was rubbing on my pecker. I asked about taking her to my motel. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, so said, let's boom boom here. She said to come back tommorrow, no boom boom today. I asked why, but didn't really get an answer.
What might be the reasons? Does it sound odd or just one of those things?
Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]Many reasons. Period is first though.
If it was early in the night, she might have been looking for a long term. Some girls don't like rejection, and might have been annoyed.
I had one 19 year old at Night Wish quote me $2000 for long term, then change her mind 30 minutes later and wanted to do short term. I was annoyed and left.
I'm in Pattaya now and the current situation is about 50% of the girls are working at the Go Go bars. Hopefully the weekend shapes up better as more return back to work. Last night when I was in Palace, I caught a mamasan trying to overcharge for bar fine. I've barfined over.
I'm in Pattaya now and the current situation is about 50% of the girls are working at the Go Go bars. Hopefully the weekend shapes up better as more return back to work. Last night when I was in Palace, I caught a mamasan trying to overcharge for bar fine. I've barfined over 150 girls on Walking Street, so I want to let those who care, what are the actual prices by bars. Girls rates will vary but expect 3,000-5000 short time and 5000-10,000 long time depending if they are coyotes, models etc. Also YMMV for girls' rates. But bar fines should be constant. These are most popular bars I've got them from.
Baccara- 800 all night.
Sensations, Sapphire, Nui Runway - 1500 until midnight, then 1000.
Palace- 1000 all night or 1500 if the girl doesn't want to return or long time all night, 2000 for models all night. This confusing pricing opens this place to scam new customers (bet you can figure out how).
Farenheit- 1000 and models 1500 all night.
Tantra, What's Up, Imagine- 1500 and 2000 for models, price drops by -500 after midnight.
I'm in Pattaya now and the current situation is about 50% of the girls are working at the Go Go bars. Hopefully the weekend shapes up better as more return back to work. Last night when I was in Palace, I caught a mamasan trying to overcharge my buddy for bar fine. I've barfined over 150 girls from Walking Street and about 22 girls from Palace, so I kind of know the prices. Palace is only 1000 for coyotes and 2000 for models, all night. Beware of the mamasans asking for 1500 for customers taking the girls back to their own hotels. It's still only 1000.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124651]
High season for tourists. I was referring to the number of girls who take approximately Dec. 24 to Jan. 3 or longer off. A couple of my gogo girls aren't returning for a month.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying. I was afraid that all the girls might be gone when I arrive next Wednesday. Cheers.
Hit a few LK Metro bars tonight and pretty quiet except for Ninja. Ninja hasn't produced any new talent for some time and my main girl was busy so decided to go to Sugar Sugar where I haven't been for some time. It will be even a longer period of time until I return. Still good to pop into bars every couple / few months to see if any of my missing girls move to that bar.
Soi Honey and Honey 1 around 10 pm. Not much talent. Lots of girls at Honey 1 but never been my taste of girls. Many Indians just sitting around so no seats to sit and look at the girls.
Soi 7 and Soi 8. Didn't see much. It's mainly ladyboys on these 2 streets now. Not worth my effort to walk up and down but, again, nice to check it out every couple of months.
Lots of girls on Beach Road while taking the baht bus, especially around Soi 12. Hopped off to take a walk. I understand why guys can get them for 700 to 1000 baht.
I was tired so I decided to Line a regular gogo girl who had a day off to go eat. Maybe hit Differ or a Thai disco later.
[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2124855]I had one 19 year old at Night Wish quote me $2000 for long term, then change her mind 30 minutes later and wanted to do short term. I was annoyed and left.[/QUOTE]My friends are always saying the same thing, but it is supposed to be Short Time and Long Time!
10 K for an all-night model girl from a gogo is crazy so I'll stick with the beer bar girls. I've heard that Soi 6 prices are starting to climb but there are still other places to go. And I've also started a shortlist of girls from ThaiFriendly to contact closer to my next trip.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2125066] I've heard that Soi 6 prices are starting to climb but there are still other places to go.[/QUOTE]For what I know and heard the only prices that go up in the six are the room price and drinks price for the Nightwish Group Bars. Now they charge 400 baht for the same rooms, at least years ago Red Point Bar raised the price for the rooms with excellent renovation.
Barfine for take out always increases during the peak season. Also many soi 6 girls are back home for happy new year with their families, so it's not the best time to visit.
Reached from Bangkok to Pattaya at around 4 pm all inclusive taxi fare 1000 bht very easily got from Sukhumvit main road.
Took standard room in P72 hotel as no deluxe room available direct at counter price 750 bht only. Ordered snacks from the in house restaurant and food was excellent.
Out of my room at around 11 pm. Just opposite the hotel saw this club Muzik. Not a gogo bar simple dance club. Reached inside and saw excellent vibes and crowd a mix of westerners and locals. Jam packed floor on Thursday night may be because some international DJ was playing tonight. This kind of crowd I could not see in top clubs of Bangkok since I arrived in Bangkok almost a week ago. Lots of girls available with good eye contacts and smiles. Than saw this girl with a really nice pair of butts. Age around 22 . Height around 5. 5 or 5. 6. In heels she was looking quite tall. Impressed in first look it self. Talked with her. Asked 1300 for one hour. I straight away asked for full night. Settled at 2500 bht till 5 in the morning. Rest of the night was drinking and dancing till around 2 am. Left club and reached hotel room. An awesome GF session followed and the gal is DFK expert. That made my day. Milky white colour and baby soft skin. BBBJ was average but did for atleast 20 min. She left in tje morning with a hug. Other quality being very polite and soft spoken. Could not have asked for more. Name fruity. Trying to attach side pics.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2125025]My friends are always saying the same thing, but it is supposed to be Short Time and Long Time![/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124978]Hit a few LK Metro bars tonight and pretty quiet except for Ninja......
Lots of girls on Beach Road while taking the baht bus, especially around Soi 12. Hopped off to take a walk. I understand why guys can get them for 700 to 1000 baht.
I was tired so I decided to Line a regular gogo girl who had a day off to go eat. Maybe hit Differ or a Thai disco later.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Just got in Thursday PM and after getting new SIM card at AIS Central Festival (took me over an hour WTF) , and getting grocery shopping for toilet paper, tissue, soap etc (as I am in a condo at VT) water, fruits, bakery items, youghurt etc. Stocked up. Waited for delivery, as it is free if you buy a min of 1500 baht.
Was tired after very long flights from NYC and slept in after organising all my stuff. Did not wake up for almost 6 hours at about 12 midnight LOL. Left for walking st at about 130 am (but was surprised to see so many girls on beach Road at that hour (so got off near Pizza Hut and gave some of them a look. Maybe a few were 6. 5 but on closer inspection teeth or some other stuff was off kilter. So, walked the remainder of the way to Walking St. Got there at about 215 am.
The Stones House was rocking but I ventured further down and popped into Lucifer, good crowd but I saw 4-6 lady boys and split.
Went in to Ibar, NY Diner area to renew my VIP card and went up to Insomnia.
It was PACKED! Quality (and competition) one of the best I have seen. Interestingly except for maybe 1-2 and the employee Dancers, all girls who were there for fun or pick ups were new from last year (I have a very good memory for faces and had spent almost a whole month there same time last year.). I am very surprised at the level of turnover. But pleasantly so....
Being my first day and long flight, I just wanted to relax and just drink, dance and watch. But stayed there until 6 am (and then ate at NY Diner below) and got back to my place on the baht bus (met 2 girls on the bus back who said they had been at Pier all night and might meet them sometime in the next couple of nights at Insomnia (but cute, not slim, not fat, early 20's, one may have been 19). Since I am here for almost 6 weeks, I am paitient and in no hurry. I could have easily pulled a 6.5 tonight because so many girls had no takers even at 5am. When there is so much choice, you just enjoy the atmosphere and see more and more come in and never pull the trigger. Will not do that tonight Friday LOL !
Going for massage tomorrow, will check out Beach Road around 6 (never found a single one there yet that meets my taste) and will head back into Insomnia again tonight, but will spend some time at the Stones House Before.
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2125085]Reached from Bangkok to Pattaya at around 4 pm all inclusive taxi fare 1000 bht very easily got from Sukhumvit main road.
Took standard room in P72 hotel as no deluxe room available direct at counter price 750 bht only. Ordered snacks from the in house restaurant and food was excellent.
Out of my room at around 11 pm. Just opposite the hotel saw this club Muzik. Not a gogo bar simple dance club. Reached inside and saw excellent vibes and crowd a mix of westerners and locals. Jam packed floor on Thursday night may be because some international DJ was playing tonight. This kind of crowd I could not see in top clubs of Bangkok since I arrived in Bangkok almost a week ago. Lots of girls available with good eye contacts and smiles. Than saw this girl with a really nice pair of butts. Age around 22 . Height around 5. 5 or 5. 6. In heels she was looking quite tall. Impressed in first look it self. Talked with her. Asked 1300 for one hour. I straight away asked for full night. Settled at 2500 bht till 5 in the morning. Rest of the night was drinking and dancing till around 2 am. Left club and reached hotel room. An awesome GF session followed and the gal is DFK expert. That made my day. Milky white colour and baby soft skin. BBBJ was average but did for atleast 20 min. She left in tje morning with a hug. Other quality being very polite and soft spoken. Could not have asked for more. Name fruity. Trying to attach side pics.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Nice! Congrats!
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2125085] Snip. Out of my room at around 11 pm. Just opposite the hotel saw this club Muzik. Not a gogo bar simple dance club. Reached inside and saw excellent vibes and crowd a mix of westerners and locals. Jam packed floor on Thursday night may be because some international DJ was playing tonight. This kind of crowd I could not see in top clubs of Bangkok since I arrived in Bangkok almost a week ago. Lots of girls available with good eye contacts and smiles. Snip. [/QUOTE]Since I had never heard of P72 Hotel I checked google maps to see where it was. There was no Muzik club across the street from the hotel on the map, only Lucifer and XO club. Googled Muzik club Pattaya and nothing came up. Are you sure it was called Muzik? Perhaps it is so new that Google doesn't know about it yet?
Also, since I may want to stay there in the future, one of the reviews of the hotel said there is a 500 bhat joiner fee. Is that correct? Thanks.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2125173]Since I had never heard of P72 Hotel I checked google maps to see where it was. There was no Muzik club across the street from the hotel on the map, only Lucifer and XO club. Googled Muzik club Pattaya and nothing came up. Are you sure it was called Muzik? Perhaps it is so new that Google doesn't know about it yet?[/QUOTE]Muzzik Cafe is directly across from P72 Hotel and beside Lucifer. Muzzik was raided about a week ago checking both men and women for ID looking for people under the legal age limit.
Attaching pic of Muzik cafe taken directly from my room window.
P72 standard room 750 all including.
Quite big room for the price no complaint. Very nice breakfast in the room including bread, jam, butter, fried eggs, sausage, juice, baked potatoes, fresh fruit, coffee. Only for 130 bht. Could not finish. Only prob with standard room is that its just above and opposite the bars so loud music all night. You can watch walking street all night from windows. Deluxe rooms are inside so less noisy. 950 bht for deluxe if available. No online booking direct on counter they say.
Cheers
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2125173]Since I had never heard of P72 Hotel I checked google maps to see where it was. There was no Muzik club across the street from the hotel on the map, only Lucifer and XO club. Googled Muzik club Pattaya and nothing came up. Are you sure it was called Muzik? Perhaps it is so new that Google doesn't know about it yet?
Also, since I may want to stay there in the future, one of the reviews of the hotel said there is a 500 bhat joiner fee. Is that correct? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Visited soi 6 around 9. It was too early I guess but they say closing time here is 1 am so coming here at 11 should be late I think. Reached from walking street to soi 6 on foot around 1.6 km street walking along beach road. Nothing fancied. May be 2 or 3 average looking girls rest all crap around beach road. Soi 6 also one side of the road mostly lady boy bars. Other side girl gogo bars. Particularly tried to have special. Look at Ruby bar and few others but very slim average look girls of around 5 ft height is not I came for here.
Some one mentioned shoters gogo at soi 7. Went their also. Very crowded but girls nowhere of my liking. May be one visit is not enough to judge anything, I admit this but this visit returned after just having a beer at 180 bht. Back to my room at 10 pm.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2124651]I'm sure barfine was 1500 for gogo girls and 2000 for "models", the same as it is at Infinity. There were 2 really nice girls at Bad Girls. Hopefully they just hop over to Infinity.
Can someone please explain to me what the definition of an "Agency girl" is?
High season for tourists. I was referring to the number of girls who take approximately Dec. 24 to Jan. 3 or longer off. A couple of my gogo girls aren't returning for a month.[/QUOTE]Agency girls?
Personally, I first heard this phrase around 5 years ago, when a Go Go called Rehab opened on Soi Buakhao pass Soi 15, junction up from the LK metro. I went with a number of players from softball for the soft / grand opening since many of them were connected with owner or partners. As most grand opening the place is usually packed since there is food and with food comes the balloon chaser? I like many noticed the number of girls and although beauty is in the eye of the beholder the place seem to have stunners top to bottom and was told the BF was set at 1500 baht, if they would go with you not all, at the time that was out of the world since places like Bacarra was only 600, so were the drinks etc. The reason I heard was the " owner had " to offset his expenses in hiring agency girls " these were girls that normally did those car shows and are placed by some agency in Bangkok. The concept was to pay these girls something like 30-40,000 baht a for their time and service to show case the new place. Today, I believe agency has revolved to Coyotes, Models etc. And the various BF associated with the label.
Rehab, owner or owners had their own discussion on another forum as time went on after the opening came mostly negative reviews especially as the contracts with the Agency girls start to expire. I myself venture a number of time to verified the negatives whenever I went I was pretty much the only one there. Many like myself question the " I have to hire " whenever I hear this phrase it leads me to believe you are being forced, I ask if this was the case and the mafia? Was forcing Rehab to operate in this manner the answer was always evasive never answer. So pretty much the bet was on and I agree with many give it 6-9 month and it would close which is what happen!
You can't really miss this Soi or the Hotel.
It is right across from Lucifers, the give away opposite is the portable table where two or three Thai police sit. Right behind them is a portable metal guard that closes the Soi to motorbikes you will also see a number of Freelancer standing there. Never have been sure of the open bar / restaurant whether itself is called P72 Bar? There is a 7/11 just off that with two guys selling music phone aftermarket and copies of DVD music. It is usually really loud because of it? You walk further down W. S. Heading to I-Bar, you will see on the left, Sweethearts, Palace, Go Go. P72, one can walk through to 2nd Road, this is also the main walkway use by girls going to work and going to 2nd Road with their Barfines to catch a Songthaw.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2125173]
Also, since I may want to stay there in the future, one of the reviews of the hotel said there is a 500 bhat joiner fee. Is that correct? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It seems very strange to me. Friend of mine stay there few times and he never had to pay for joiner fee, but last time he was there was 3 years ago. Probably the 500 baht joiner fee is for the second girl if you bring back 2 girls at the same time for a 3some.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2125066]10 K for an all-night model girl from a gogo is crazy so I'll stick with the beer bar girls. I've heard that Soi 6 prices are starting to climb but there are still other places to go. And I've also started a shortlist of girls from ThaiFriendly to contact closer to my next trip.[/QUOTE]Was there last night 300 baht +1000 baht as always.
As promised Monkeypraw another bro from ISG forum visited me in the evening. We had few drinks in the room. Than he took me to a few gogo bars. He looks to have quite knowledge of the gogo bars here and I admit that the bar girls and staff also knows him. Quite a regular I guess. He picked a gogo gal from one club and went with her. After that I planned a pub crawl on walking street as I wasn't in the mood to pick a girl tonight but just bird watching. Visited many dance clubs like iball / isomania, pier, marine disco, and few others and must say most attractive crowd was in Lucifer just opposite P72. Of course many lady gals were also present but they are almost everywhere in Thailand. Will be in Lucifer tomorrow night for sure and any bro here want to join may inbox me.
Cheers.
My experience with Thai girls is don't apply your standard of logic and attempt to understand why they do what they do. True in your home country and 1000% more true in a foreign culture.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2124681]I was at a bar on soi 6 with a pretty 24 year old. I bought her a drink, she was standing leaning into my lap. I was a little handy, took a peak at her nipples. She was rubbing on my pecker. I asked about taking her to my motel. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, so said, let's boom boom here. She said to come back tommorrow, no boom boom today. I asked why, but didn't really get an answer.
What might be the reasons? Does it sound odd or just one of those things?
Thanks for any insight.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zman429;2125307]Was there last night 300 baht +1000 baht as always.[/QUOTE]In an effort to generate some business for a bar that didn't increase their barfine, which bar was this?
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2125508]My experience with Thai girls is don't apply your standard of logic and attempt to understand why they do what they do. True in your home country and 1000% more true in a foreign culture.[/QUOTE]Most likely she is logical and the westerner is not.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2124942]I'm in Pattaya now and the current situation is about 50% of the girls are working at the Go Go bars. Hopefully the weekend shapes up better as more return back to work. Last night when I was in Palace, I caught a mamasan trying to overcharge for bar fine. I've barfined over 150 girls on Walking Street, so I want to let those who care, what are the actual prices by bars. Girls rates will vary but expect 3,000-5000 short time and 5000-10,000 long time depending if they are coyotes, models etc. Also YMMV for girls' rates. But bar fines should be constant. These are most popular bars I've got them from.
Baccara- 800 all night.
Sensations, Sapphire, Nui Runway - 1500 until midnight, then 1000.
Palace- 1000 all night or 1500 if the girl doesn't want to return or long time all night, 2000 for models all night. This confusing pricing opens this place to scam new customers (bet you can figure out how).
Farenheit- 1000 and models 1500 all night.
Tantra, What's Up, Imagine- 1500 and 2000 for models, price drops by -500 after midnight.[/QUOTE]
Who was quoting you 10,000 ? I don't think I'd be willing to pay that much. 5,000 is no problem but I wouldn't pay much more than that. 7000 maybe if she is a real stunner. I'm all for paying the girls, but once it gets over 7000 that is a bit much for sex. There is no guarantee she will do what you want either in terms of sex in the morning and then if she won't have sex in the morning then LT is kind wasted. At over 7000 you're really getting into the territory of premium services and would expect premium treatment. Most Thai girls just aren't that pretty. At 10,000, that's a bit over $300 USD, for that amount of money, you can buy a lot, you can easily get a leggy blonde who will do BBBJ CIM or get yourself a really nice Japanese or Korean girl. You can get really good western hookers for that price too, unless you're really into blowjobs and CIM but honestly if I'm paying that much and not getting BBBJ and CIM I'm going to be more concerned about pounding the absolute fuck out of someone with a great body, not merely getting a CBJ, which to me is a waste of time. I have had some really good looking women and I haven't wasted my "duration" with a blowjob and just moved straight to fucking. So I'd really question the value of a 10,000 baht long time when service levels are not guaranteed and if can live without a BJ (like I can).
At 5000 baht there is not really anything of equal value to compare it too so I'm fine with 5k
There really isn't all that much point in LT at that price point either because you can only do it so many times in one night and with higher class hookers you usually get 2 shots anyway.
Last time I was in Pattaya I got some decent bar fines for 3,000 LT.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2125588]Who was quoting you 10,000 ? I don't think I'd be willing to pay that much. 5,000 is no problem but I wouldn't pay much more than that. 7000 maybe if she is a real stunner. I'm all for paying the girls, but once it gets over 7000 that is a bit much for sex. There is no guarantee she will do what you want either in terms of sex in the morning and then if she won't have sex in the morning then LT is kind wasted. At over 7000 you're really getting into the territory of premium services and would expect premium treatment. Most Thai girls just aren't that pretty. At 10,000, that's a bit over $300 USD, for that amount of money, you can buy a lot, you can easily get a leggy blonde who will do BBBJ CIM or get yourself a really nice Japanese or Korean girl. You can get really good western hookers for that price too, unless you're really into blowjobs and CIM but honestly if I'm paying that much and not getting BBBJ and CIM I'm going to be more concerned about pounding the absolute fuck out of someone with a great body, not merely getting a CBJ, which to me is a waste of time. .[/QUOTE]10,000 is upper end. I've been with 151 Go Go bars girls in Walking Street in the past year alone. Try your hand at a show dancer model from Imagine. See what they will go with you for in price. 95% of customers they will reject. But if you are well known to the club and are a big spender or make it rain yee sip baht mak mak. They will go. Same with any top model in each club. She can easily do 3 short times for 3,000 each making 9,000 a night plus her 16,000 baht salary every 10 days. She won't do long time with a customer for 5,000. Makes no sense for her. So it's all about your choices in girls. Of course I've also been with the average looking girls as well. But don't let price stop you from that impulse. If Candice Swanepoel didn't have a kid and looked like she did 5 years ago and offered her services, I would pay top cash for that too. But just her, not the others Victoria Secrets models.
Also keep in mind Walking Street prices compared to LK Metro is always more expensive. I've had girls 1500-15,000 baht. The higher number is few and usually involved trips out of the country. Heck I've had Russian girls imported to Thailand for 3,000 USD a weekend from a legit escort site that the girls are 95% accurate in their photos. Minimal photoshopped and many stunners. In case you are curious [URL]escortofbelgium.com[/URL] and [URL]escortofitaly.com[/URL].
Made a Pattaya trip on Christmas weekend. I am from Bangalore India and I was coming here third time. I used TF app and met few ladies for ST and LT. It went well until I decided to explore go gos. Really got disappointed about blanket ban on Indian in some GO GO bar. There was a report earlier about few GO GO bars so I avoided them and went to Happy GO GO and surprise! Before I cloud approach the gate the girls at the gate were showing me cross sign and latter told me Members only. Went to couple of more GO go's but on both of them security person at the gate asking me "Will you buy drink", "Promise me you will buy drink". Went any way and bar fined girl at both the places but it felt discriminated. I know, its not only bar problem at times Indian crowd issue as well. Same case at Disco Mixx. Really felt sad at the state of affairs there.
Next time I am not going to Pattaya. Phuket was better, I did not feel any discrimination there.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2125540]In an effort to generate some business for a bar that didn't increase their barfine, which bar was this?[/QUOTE]Lick Bar and Passion Dance Club. Sounds like I might need to try some more see what's up haven't been going lately.
I personally never like the idea of picking girls from gogo bars giving barfines and all if I can easily pick sexy girls from clubs in 1000 to 3000 bhts all including. Lots of options right now in Pattaya clubs.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2125588]Who was quoting you 10,000 ? I don't think I'd be willing to pay that much. 5,000 is no problem but I wouldn't pay much more than that. 7000 maybe if she is a real stunner. I'm all for paying the girls, but once it gets over 7000 that is a bit much for sex. There is no guarantee she will do what you want either in terms of sex in the morning and then if she won't have sex in the morning then LT is kind wasted. At over 7000 you're really getting into the territory of premium services and would expect premium treatment. Most Thai girls just aren't that pretty. At 10,000, that's a bit over $300 USD, for that amount of money, you can buy a lot, you can easily get a leggy blonde who will do BBBJ CIM or get yourself a really nice Japanese or Korean girl. You can get really good western hookers for that price too, unless you're really into blowjobs and CIM but honestly if I'm paying that much and not getting BBBJ and CIM I'm going to be more concerned about pounding the absolute fuck out of someone with a great body, not merely getting a CBJ, which to me is a waste of time. I have had some really good looking women and I haven't wasted my "duration" with a blowjob and just moved straight to fucking. So I'd really question the value of a 10,000 baht long time when service levels are not guaranteed and if can live without a BJ (like I can).
At 5000 baht there is not really anything of equal value to compare it too so I'm fine with 5k
There really isn't all that much point in LT at that price point either because you can only do it so many times in one night and with higher class hookers you usually get 2 shots anyway.
Last time I was in Pattaya I got some decent bar fines for 3,000 LT.[/QUOTE]
I made an advance booking of Cory considering her reviews and availability. I had an overnight booking for which I paid 3900 bahts. The reason I didn't opt for going to a Go Go for this price is, I was reaching hotel at around 9 pm and wanted to take rest after journey instead of going to bars to look for a girl. The booking process was, 1000 bahts in advance (pay by PayPal) and the rest when the lady leaves. Here is the review.
As mentioned in some earlier reports Cory is very mechanical, in fact many long time working girls at DD are mechanical. The booking was for 10 pm-6 am, she came to room at around 9:50 pm. She cleaned me very well during shower and took shower after I finished mine. Soon the BBBJ started, but like I mentioned it felt mechanical right from the starting. She won't do deep throat or rimming unless I ask, the BJ she was doing too fast and at a point it kind of started hurting me. I asked her to slow down and stop making this moaning sounds during BJ, for fuck's sake I even haven't touched you. Soon the cover was slipped in and I started in doggy and then miss. I wanted to do anal but since I hadn't an ejaculation in past 2 weeks, came quickly.
Went outside at around 11 pm for a quick bite and grabbed a water bottle from 7-11. She stayed in the room while I was out, of-course I locked all my valuables and money.
Second round started once I was back in room, similar kind of BJ and this time she asked me whether I want to CIM. Politely denied and started in miss position, quickly started fucking her ass. It was tight and nice. Came in her ass after 5-10 minutes of anal of-course inside the cover.
After getting cleaned up she asked whether I want her to stay overnight, said the booking is for the night so yes. I wanted another fuck in the morning, so asked her to wake me up before 30 minutes she leaves, off we slept. Before we sleep we had a conversation when I asked her age to which she answered 32 and no babies. I doubt she would be older than that.
She woke me up at 5:30 am for another round, I was too tired of the journey and was too sleepy so asked her to leave and gave the money. My overall experience was not so great and I wouldn't repeat, however YMMV.
Ratings:
Body- 9/10 Nice and curvy with handful boobs.
Face- 6/10 She is an old lady, don't believe the photos you see on website. They are taken with high make up.
BJ- 7/10 Too rush, as a man I want slow and slurpy.
Anal- 9/10.
GFE- 1/10 Although she behaved nice with me, the overall experience was too mechanical.
Repeat?- Don't think so.
I know there are many nice reviews of Cory in forum, but to me she was just trying to finish everything as quick as possible with no feelings. Too much fake moaning during the fuck. She might be a PSE material but I'm young and expect GFE up to an extent.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2125540]In an effort to generate some business for a bar that didn't increase their barfine, which bar was this?[/QUOTE]A part Red Point Bar that have room price at 350 for a few years now, and Nightwish Group that raised their price to 400 since 1st January, almost all other bars are still 300 baht for the room.
Last November I went to Smoke & Kisses, Chili, Route69, Candy, Goodfellas, Wicked, Spider, 3 Angels and paid the rooms 300. Also went to Horny and Toy Box (NWG bars) and Red Point where I paid 350. Price for the girls 1000 bath.
I think also Miss B-Heaven cost 350 for the room, but i dont know if they are in the Nightwish group or not.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2125597]10,000 is upper end. I've been with 151 Go Go bars girls in Walking Street in the past year alone. Try your hand at a show dancer model from Imagine. See what they will go with you for in price. [/QUOTE]I was at Imagine tonight. Only saw 2 girls I liked. 1 was busy with a Japanese guy and the other was with my buddy. When you refer to show dancers do you mean the ones who wear the shiny outfits and do the special shows like the Indian dance? None of those girls were special at all IMHO. Definitely not better than a top Baccara girl with 800 barfine and normal pricing for ST / LT.
[QUOTE=MusicalToM;2125675]
As mentioned in some earlier reports Cory is very mechanical, in fact many long time working girls at DD are mechanical.
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I know there are many nice reviews of Cory in forum, but to me she was just trying to finish everything as quick as possible with no feelings. Too much fake moaning during the fuck. She might be a PSE material but I'm young and expect GFE up to an extent.[/QUOTE]I had Cory once and never again, she provided me the worst service I've ever had from DD girls. Wan is another bad perfomer IME. Around 2009/10/11 DD had a great line up, full of horny girls who provided a great service. But in the last few years is so difficult do find a real good perfomer at DD. Gem deserve a good review IME.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2125597]10,000 is upper end. I've been with 151 Go Go bars girls in Walking Street in the past year alone. Try your hand at a show dancer model from Imagine. See what they will go with you for in price. 95% of customers they will reject. But if you are well known to the club and are a big spender or make it rain yee sip baht mak mak. They will go. Same with any top model in each club. She can easily do 3 short times for 3,000 each making 9,000 a night plus her 16,000 baht salary every 10 days. She won't do long time with a customer for 5,000. Makes no sense for her. So it's all about your choices in girls. Of course I've also been with the average looking girls as well. But don't let price stop you from that impulse. If Candice Swanepoel didn't have a kid and looked like she did 5 years ago and offered her services, I would pay top cash for that too. But just her, not the others Victoria Secrets models.
Also keep in mind Walking Street prices compared to LK Metro is always more expensive. I've had girls 1500-15,000 baht. The higher number is few and usually involved trips out of the country. Heck I've had Russian girls imported to Thailand for 3,000 USD a weekend from a legit escort site that the girls are 95% accurate in their photos. Minimal photoshopped and many stunners. In case you are curious [URL]escortofbelgium.com[/URL] and [URL]escortofitaly.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]For 10,000 she better be all that. Do they still reject mostly for ST? For ST you'd be looking at 1 k-2 k barfine + 3 k to the girl = 4-5 k. That is what a lot of girls charge for ST. I don't mind paying as long as she is 19-22 and good looking and will be agreeable in the room. To be fair I have never had a Thai girl who was not at least mostly agreeable and that was only once in BKK otherwise they've all been amazingly good with zero attitude.
I'm all for paying the Thai girls what they ask but I have my limits, just like they have their demands. With 10 k I can do better elsewhere.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2125881]Definitely not better than a top Baccara girl with 800 barfine and normal pricing for ST / LT.[/QUOTE]I've never been able to even get the attention of a girl at Baccara. When you say normal pricing what do you mean? 5 k LT 3 k ST?
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2125644]I personally never like the idea of picking girls from gogo bars giving barfines and all if I can easily pick sexy girls from clubs in 1000 to 3000 bhts all including. Lots of options right now in Pattaya clubs.[/QUOTE]The better girls are at the Gogo bars. , Thai like loud noises apparently.
As planned reached Lucifer at around 11 . Not much crowd that time but that was the time to start the game. Took VIP membership for just 300 bht. Bought a bottle of 100 pipers and took one of the most centre placed table. I don't think anywhere in the world I can get a bottle and table for 990 bht price after VIP discount. Cokes and ice they charged separately and total bill was 1250 bht. In my country I can get hardly two drinks in this price.
Crowd started building and it was jam packed very soon. Lots of options around everywhere. Was looking for someone who look stand apart from all and it took almost an hour more. As soon as saw this passing girl, around 22/23 really innocent face, tall and excellent figure, was sure that got to call this one. She was passing almost touching me in pack crowd and within second I offered her to join me for drink. She also thought may be for a second and here she came to my table. She had one mote friend with her but she was average looker. Now rest of the night was just memorable. She was so naughty. Removed my coat and wore it. Laughing, joking, hugging, kissing (even tongue licking) and dancing all night. May be after days I laughed so much. She was really sexy and sweat too. Took my number, added me on fb, line and watsapp. Kept drinking and dancing non stop. She speak very fluent English as she said she is student and lives in a city about 40 km from Bangkok. We left at last and took her to nearby restaurant that is beside ibar ground floor. Had a nice food and to my room. She kept dancing even on road. She was looking so good that each and everyone was looking at her. Anyway in the room everything went smooth and as expected. Total GF experience. She went around 6. 30. Gave her 2000 bht. Total expenses 1250 +2000+ 600 for dinner = 3850 and I got a night that created awesome memories. Still feeling her kisses everywhere. Am too happy doing things my way. No gogo or soapies for me until I can pic girls that easily and that too the best ones. Will be leaving Pattaya on happy note tomorrow. But will be back soon.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2125881]I was at Imagine tonight. Only saw 2 girls I liked. 1 was busy with a Japanese guy and the other was with my buddy. When you refer to show dancers do you mean the ones who wear the shiny outfits and do the special shows like the Indian dance? None of those girls were special at all IMHO. Definitely not better than a top Baccara girl with 800 barfine and normal pricing for ST / LT.[/QUOTE]Imagine and What's Up have gone downhill. Most of the original girls are gone. You can look at their Facebook page and not even recognize one girl from there. Some have moved to Iron and other places. When I grabbed a girl 10,000 there, she was a model doing a dance show. It was a beauty pageant show and this was about 1 year ago. That place is struggling and you can tell by the raised drink prices and girls drinks costs. They don't even do shows anymore downstairs at What's Up. Before both stages were.
Full of dancers and they also had girls dancing on the ledges with a soapy bath stage. They also had models rotate both stages with sexy shows as well. Now downstairs looks dead girl wise. Upstairs still has shows but coyotes and models have all been reduced. Nothing special now but back a year ago, it was bad ass. You should look at their Facebook to reminisce.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2125881]I was at Imagine tonight. Only saw 2 girls I liked. 1 was busy with a Japanese guy and the other was with my buddy. When you refer to show dancers do you mean the ones who wear the shiny outfits and do the special shows like the Indian dance? None of those girls were special at all IMHO. Definitely not better than a top Baccara girl with 800 barfine and normal pricing for ST / LT.[/QUOTE]I'm kind of played out in Baccara. I've been with about 32 girls there. 31 downstairs and 1 upstairs. It's a love hate situation with me. They top ones don't like it that I swap them out. But it's there ego, that they can be the "one" amongst all the girls to keep me "her" regular that keeps them playing this game with me. Now I just go and look, sit with a few that I've been with before. Sometimes grab a previous good performance girl. And look for new girls. I've had girls pussy block each other if I bar fined a new girl. They would tell the new girl "Hey, I've been what that guy before. He is real nice and tips well, but he is a playboy. " The new girl would come out of the dressing room and tell me as we leave. "Why? Would they tell me that?" It's because they want to make her feel unspectacular. She is new and I'm not a normal customer, but very well known amongst girls and staff. I choose her because she is new and somewhat pretty. But mainly new and I've been with the hotter ones already. So it's a way, that these girls keep the new girls in check. I think it's hilarious.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2125887]I had Cory once and never again, she provided me the worst service I've ever had from DD girls. Wan is another bad perfomer IME. Around 2009/10/11 DD had a great line up, full of horny girls who provided a great service. But in the last few years is so difficult do find a real good perfomer at DD. Gem deserve a good review IME.[/QUOTE]So true.
Few months back I tried a lady from Cherry Massage, Bangkok. Her body was not so great, but attitude towards providing service in top notch. I wish DD would put up some girls up for nice service.
The more sad thing is that, there is no other establishment in Pattaya providing on demand service like DD, may be that's the reason they don't want to improvise.
Story is a Soi 6 bar girl left her bar with a Farang the other night and was found dead naked outside her apartment. Anyone know which bar she worked at?
MMG, by normal pricing I meant 3 k ST, 5 k LT which is what is the common numbers posted on ISG.
The story depending on the source it wasn't at her apartment but at a condo in Jomtien top of the hill called (Cosy), another said it was at her place which the % chances of a Thai owning/renting and working Soi 6? the report was she fell off the balcony the guard who heard the sound found the body she was still alive but by the time emergency came she died. The entry into the Condo found no other occupant thereafter but know it was a foreigner who brought her to the location. There were condoms etc found which indicate there was sex rumor to have worked at Sky Bar?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2126007]Story is a Soi 6 bar girl left her bar with a Farang the other night and was found dead naked outside her apartment. Anyone know which bar she worked at?.[/QUOTE]Here you go.
Thanks LBM and Mr. E. Very sad no matter what happened.
[QUOTE=MusicalToM;2125675]I made an advance booking of Cory considering her reviews and availability.[/QUOTE]That's a good review, I'd just read some good reviews of her and considered choosing her when I visited DD. Although an all-nighter with one of those girls was not on the cards.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2124625]For me, I'd pay extra to not have to sex foot in a GoGo bar. I don't know who considers those things fun. They are exciting for about 5 minutes, but beyond that they're awful. You can't sit and enjoy a beer because the waitress will be all " YOU BUY MORE BEER NOW YOU BUY BEER BUY BEER BUY BEER". Like they want to get you drunk. On soi 6 I can have a beer, relax, pick a girl. No rush.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrManGuy;2125899]The better girls are at the Gogo bars. , Thai like loud noises apparently.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2125898]I've never been able to even get the attention of a girl at Baccara. When you say normal pricing what do you mean? 5 k LT 3 k ST?[/QUOTE]Now you've lost me. Do you like gogo bars or not?
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2126138]Now you've lost me. Do you like gogo bars or not?[/QUOTE]He does not like gogo bars, but he likes the girls from gogo bars.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2125899]The better girls are at the Gogo bars. , Thai like loud noises apparently.[/QUOTE]And you don't have to be a night owl or try to be one.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2125899]The better girls are at the Gogo bars. , Thai like loud noises apparently.[/QUOTE]Thai 'who'? Find a Thai customer in a Gogo bar and I'll pay you 3 barfines. Unlike any other country 'glamorous' prostitution in Thailand is made 100% for foreigners.
Forgot to say. Gogo bars aren't even that much noisy. Try a disco some night.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2126278]Thai 'who'? Find a Thai customer in a Gogo bar and I'll pay you 3 barfines. Unlike any other country 'glamorous' prostitution in Thailand is made 100% for foreigners.
Forgot to say. Gogo bars aren't even that much noisy. Try a disco some night.[/QUOTE]They are too noisy. Thai design the GoGo bars. They think loud noise = good so they make the bars noisy.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2126278]Thai 'who'? Find a Thai customer in a Gogo bar and I'll pay you 3 barfines. Unlike any other country 'glamorous' prostitution in Thailand is made 100% for foreigners.
Forgot to say. Gogo bars aren't even that much noisy. Try a disco some night.[/QUOTE]People are going to generalize some vastly more than others. It does happen but not often when it does normally it is due to the ownership or manager who runs the operation. From my experience it usually happens in Asian dominate places where it is hard to identify them from the other Asian unless you are introduce to or sitting right next to them and hear them talk. In the past few years I've ended up sitting next to them, ask to give up a space particular area since I'm usually alone and the manager know me and ask, or I've introduced by girls working there since the Thai guy is their sugar daddy. Normally in this case the guys are older but I've been around young group of Thais that visit from Bangkok. These Thais are general better off dress like the young Korean in hip hop clothing?
Barraca, Happy, Peppermint, Beach, Sweethearts, Lighthouse, Skyfall, Sugarbaby, Annabelles, Dollhouse, Babydolls, Electric blue, Windmill, Wildcat, Tantra, Touch, Paradise, Kaos I can go on are all foreign owned not Thai. That being said I'm sure the foreign owners are the one approving the designs. Not the best I can do is say the DJ are all Thai maybe that is what he meant but the foreign ownership has a say in how loud it gets in their clubs.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2126278]Thai 'who'? Find a Thai customer in a Gogo bar and I'll pay you 3 barfines. [/QUOTE]Was sitting beside a Thai guy at Beach Club tonight. He was buying drinks for 3 girls.
There is also the old Thai man who hangs out upstairs at Windmill. I'm sure Windmill guys have seen him. He brings out a magnifying glass to inspect the girls' pussies!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2126570]Was sitting beside a Thai guy at Beach Club tonight. He was buying drinks for 3 girls.
There is also the old Thai man who hangs out upstairs at Windmill. I'm sure Windmill guys have seen him. He brings out a magnifying glass to inspect the girls' pussies![/QUOTE]Looks like MMG is lucky with 3 bar fines to be paid by ONG!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2126007]Story is a Soi 6 bar girl left her bar with a Farang the other night and was found dead naked outside her apartment. Anyone know which bar she worked at?[/QUOTE]There are now plenty of news articles about now, it's believed that Vella had sex with a bar worker from Sky Bar on Soi 6, at some time she fell from the 5th floor balcony. She was found injured by a security guard who called for an ambulance. The girl died where she fell while she was being attended to. In the meantime, Vella did a runner as was arrested Sunday afternoon at a nearby bar.
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5245699/Briton-arrested-Thai-prostitute-falls-death.html[/URL]
I feel real sorry for the girl. I have heard that she was a very nice and friendly person. We don't know all the facts surrounding this tragedy, but it sure looks like the perp is in one hell of a lot of trouble as in 1st degree manslaughter or 2nd degree murder. Running after the incident occured does not look good. What a fucked up asshole in more ways than one!
Now I have read this guy has done prison time previously for the violent raape of a teenage girl in England. You can't make this stuff up even if you tried. But unless an eye witness comes forth to shed more light on what happened on that balcony, it won't matter if he is guilty of 1st degree murder, partially responsible for the poor girl's death (it was an accident while engaging in stupid/dangerous sex on the balcony railing), or completely innocent (he was taking a shower when she fell - highly unlikely, but not totally inconceivable); the result will be the same. He will be found guilty of negligent homicide i.e. 1st degree manslaughter and receive 10 years in a Thai prison.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2126662]Now I have read this guy has done prison time previously for the violent raape of a teenage girl in England. You can't make this stuff up even if you tried. But unless an eye witness comes forth to shed more light on what happened on that balcony, it won't matter if he is guilty of 1st degree murder, partially responsible for the poor girl's death (it was an accident while engaging in stupid/dangerous sex on the balcony railing), or completely innocent (he was taking a shower when she fell - highly unlikely, but not totally inconceivable); the result will be the same. He will be found guilty of negligent homicide i.e. 1st degree manslaughter and receive 10 years in a Thai prison.[/QUOTE]I wonder how long will a farang sexpat last in Thai jail?
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2126681]I wonder how long will a farang sexpat last in Thai jail?[/QUOTE]Personally, I'm curious what is considered "strange and extravagant sex" per the news article.
Getting the right story here is near impossible due to many reason, talk about fake news?
The update depends on who and when it was reported, the guy is 25 years old Brit, was in the military, has a prison record, raped and beat up a teenage girl, current a warrant on him from the you. K. Has a drug problem, has over stayed in Thailand 59 days.
Was basically arrested because his story change a number of times first he didn't know anything was in the bathroom, now his story was they were having sex on the balcony and when he climax bang she went over. He got scared so he took her phone, stole a motorbike to get out of area which later said it was not stolen but rented. Found his ass hiding on the Darkside, Soi 7 at the Eastini Resort.
He seem to be a big tough looking guy but regardless tough if you are sick due to shit being put into your food, and next up a pack of Thai wolves are all over you. Sure innocent until proven guilty good luck with that line?
I have a screen shot from the manager of the bar where Joy worked. It is the bank details of Joy's family. If anyone else would like to donate, please PM me for the details. No donation is too small. I've donated just 1,000 Baht but every little bit helps. Another option would be to pass by the bar yourself and leave your donation and they will forward it to her family.
I could care less about what is the right story, I feel sorry for Joy's family. What a terrible way to die. I hope she didn't suffer too much. I saw the raw video of her receiving CPR and it was heart breaking. Our little hobby has a dark side and this is just one example of many ways things can go bad for us and or the ladies. Play safe everyone and use common sense. Please don't forget that both parties are human beings and not just pieces of meat and walking ATMs. Treat the ladies with respect and it will come back ten fold but play smart. That does not mean we should let them take advantage of us either.
Last night another well known girl in Pattaya passed away with other 2 tourists due to motorbike incident.
She was called Nessy, former Toy Box bar soi6 and she worked at Addiction Club.
[URL]https://pattayaone.news/en/auto-draft-13/[/URL]
RIP.
[QUOTE=RockettMan;2126724]Personally, I'm curious what is considered "strange and extravagant sex" per the news article.[/QUOTE]It may be something like sex on the balcony.
Happy to report that the gogo bars seem to be picking up again. Went to one of my favorite gogo bars on Monday and there were easily 50 girls whereas a week ago Friday or Saturday there were less than 20.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2126995]Last night another well known girl in Pattaya passed away with other 2 tourists due to motorbike incident.
She was called Nessy, former Toy Box bar soi6 and she worked at Addiction Club.
[URL]https://pattayaone.news/en/auto-draft-13/[/URL]
RIP.[/QUOTE]She has come a long ways working at the Addiction Club. When did the accident actually happen? I walk down Soi Diamond Monday night and the place was closed! I thought it was closed due to lack of business, I use this walkway a lot each time regardless of the time around 5 girls no real customer usually two big talk farang inside I just assume they were the owners. Maybe the place was owned by the Russian guy who was on the bike?
Yeah, I guess many of the ladies came back from the new year's out of town. A few of my gogo friends are still overseas visiting their sponsors though.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2127103]It may be something like sex on the balcony.
Happy to report that the gogo bars seem to be picking up again. Went to one of my favorite gogo bars on Monday and there were easily 50 girls whereas a week ago Friday or Saturday there were less than 20.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2127134]When did the accident actually happen?[/QUOTE]Last Tuesday Jan 9th, as you can read in the news article.
Is high season over or ladies back?
Either way good to see.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2127194]Last Tuesday Jan 9th, as you can read in the news article.[/QUOTE]Since the accident happen on Tuesday and I walked by on Monday night (Addicts) guess it is close due to lack of business not surprise?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2126570]Was sitting beside a Thai guy at Beach Club tonight. He was buying drinks for 3 girls.
There is also the old Thai man who hangs out upstairs at Windmill. I'm sure Windmill guys have seen him. He brings out a magnifying glass to inspect the girls' pussies![/QUOTE]Yes! Naksub Du he.
He's looking for clues.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2126681]I wonder how long will a farang sexpat last in Thai jail?[/QUOTE]Until he coughs up 300,000 THB.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2127134]She has come a long ways working at the Addiction Club.[/QUOTE]I have always talked about the natural progression, while some swear that when the "best" girls hit town they are funneled to gogo bars. All my friends know her from Soi 6, and not Addiction Club. The fact is that you can actually have the same chicks at different venues (Beach Road, Soi 6, gogo bar, disco, etc) or moving from venue to venue. So while some guys are paying 1000 in one place, other guys are paying 5000 at another place, for the same damn chick! So now there should be no question as to whether some guys really are getting "those girls" for 1000 or if she was only 1000 then she was fat, old, and ugly.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2127268]I have always talked about the natural progression, while some swear that when the "best" girls hit town they are funneled to gogo bars. All my friends know her from Soi 6, and not Addiction Club. The fact is that you can actually have the same chicks at different venues (Beach Road, Soi 6, gogo bar, disco, etc) or moving from venue to venue. So while some guys are paying 1000 in one place, other guys are paying 5000 at another place, for the same damn chick! So now there should be no question as to whether some guys really are getting "those girls" for 1000 or if she was only 1000 then she was fat, old, and ugly.[/QUOTE]Can't explain it to these knuckleheads. They think we can only get good looking girls at a gogo. AND at a premium cost. LMAO. I tried to tell them the same thing a few months ago. They don't get it!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2126745]Getting the right story here is near impossible due to many reason, talk about fake news?
The update depends on who and when it was reported, the guy is 25 years old Brit, was in the military, has a prison record, raped and beat up a teenage girl, current a warrant on him from the you. K. Has a drug problem, has over stayed in Thailand 59 days.
Was basically arrested because his story change a number of times first he didn't know anything was in the bathroom, now his story was they were having sex on the balcony and when he climax bang she went over. He got scared so he took her phone, stole a motorbike to get out of area which later said it was not stolen but rented. Found his ass hiding on the Darkside, Soi 7 at the Eastini Resort.
He seem to be a big tough looking guy but regardless tough if you are sick due to shit being put into your food, and next up a pack of Thai wolves are all over you. Sure innocent until proven guilty good luck with that line?[/QUOTE]I think this dude had a Tiberius fantasy. Remember Tiberius was the tyrannical Roman emperor who lived a life of extraordinary debauchery. For more than a decade in the early part of the first century AD he lived on the picturesque Italian island of Capri. Here he practiced lechery and bloodlust in equal measure. He hosted endless summer orgies where after performing unmentionable sex acts with prostitutes (female and male] he would throw them 300 feet off the cliffs into the sea below.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2127268]I have always talked about the natural progression, while some swear that when the "best" girls hit town they are funneled to gogo bars. All my friends know her from Soi 6, and not Addiction Club. The fact is that you can actually have the same chicks at different venues (Beach Road, Soi 6, gogo bar, disco, etc) or moving from venue to venue. So while some guys are paying 1000 in one place, other guys are paying 5000 at another place, for the same damn chick! So now there should be no question as to whether some guys really are getting "those girls" for 1000 or if she was only 1000 then she was fat, old, and ugly.[/QUOTE]Mr. E.
You been around long enough that when people don't like what they hear they will find a way to justify their point of view no matter how funny it sounds to others of course they never see it that way? Not sure it was with you but had this conversation a long time ago. There use to be a few Russian girls or UBez? That use to walk Beach road and Walking St. When on Beach they ask for 1000 baht, as soon as they enter Walking St. They now ask 1500.
A girl I use to see on Soi 6, at that time 700/1000, she freelanced at I-bar heard her quote a price to a guy 1500. Girls also know if they speak more English, tell the customer fresh off the boat the customer might pay more too? These days I just go with the flow whatever makes you happy to pay or do.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2127496]Mr. E.
You been around long enough that when people don't like what they hear they will find a way to justify their point of view no matter how funny it sounds to others of course they never see it that way? Not sure it was with you but had this conversation a long time ago. There use to be a few Russian girls or UBez? That use to walk Beach road and Walking St. When on Beach they ask for 1000 baht, as soon as they enter Walking St. They now ask 1500.
A girl I use to see on Soi 6, at that time 700/1000, she freelanced at I-bar heard her quote a price to a guy 1500. Girls also know if they speak more English, tell the customer fresh off the boat the customer might pay more too? These days I just go with the flow whatever makes you happy to pay or do.[/QUOTE]I think people get caught up too much on whether they pay 700 or 1500. If you have the cash and can see the value pay what you think is fair. Would I prefer to pay 700 yes but 1500 is a realistic price, it equates to $60 AUD and for 2 hours and 2 shots that's ok with me. I am 3 weeks away from Pattaya but I have some on line girls chatting now and about 1000 to 2000 is the rate for short time 2 hours 2 shots. Some, judging by their photos I would pay more and others 1000 seems fair but in truth if the sex is good I don't care that much for their looks as it is their pussy I am buying and not their face and I am definitely not wife hunting LOL. I am sure if the girls are not getting the money they think they are worth hunger pains will get them to set realistic prices.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2127387]Can't explain it to these knuckleheads. They think we can only get good looking girls at a gogo. AND at a premium cost. LMAO. I tried to tell them the same thing a few months ago. They don't get it![/QUOTE]Any chance you can name some of the Soi 6 or other bars that currently have top girls?
In 4 visits to Soi 6 last week I saw 1 girl at Red Point, 1 at another bar near Kawaii bar, and 1 passable girl at Nature Bar. I heard from another ISG member that one of the girls I like has reappeared at Ruby Bar so I'll see her this weekend. Maybe you noticed some special girls I missed last week.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2127546]Any chance you can name some of the Soi 6 or other bars that currently have top girls?
In 4 visits to Soi 6 last week I saw 1 girl at Red Point, 1 at another bar near Kawaii bar, and 1 passable girl at Nature Bar. I heard from another ISG member that one of the girls I like has reappeared at Ruby Bar so I'll see her this weekend. Maybe you noticed some special girls I missed last week.[/QUOTE]Your visit to Soi 6 a few weeks ago sounds about as good as Soi 6 gets, at least from my experiences. At its best I've only seen about 3-4 girls that I find to be doable on the entire Soi at any one time.
Soi 6 was just terrible the 2 times I visited this December-January. In two trips I only found one hot girl at RP (who I ended up taking) and a passable one at Ruby.
That said, I've taken some great girls from the 6 and have had some good times there. I'll continue to visit. But it really is finding a needle in a haystack most of the time.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2127579]At its best I've only seen about 3-4 girls that I find to be doable on the entire Soi at any one time.
Soi 6 was just terrible the 2 times I visited this December-January. In two trips I only found one hot girl at RP (who I ended up taking) and a passable one at Ruby.
That said, I've taken some great girls from the 6 and have had some good times there. I'll continue to visit. But it really is finding a needle in a haystack most of the time.[/QUOTE]Sounds about right. Some of us are choosy, me included. Only a couple of really nice ones can be found on the 6 at any given time. Sometimes a guy can get lucky. The thing is girls change from location to location. You can see a girl on soi 6 one month, then at a gogo next month or on your next trip. Same girl now wants a premium rate?
That's what the original conversation was about. The fact that a really pretty girl 'can' be had at a place like soi 6 for 1000 (+300 room fee) one month. Then later, they move to freelance at the clubs or go to a gogo and charge 3 - 4000. It's the same pretty girl that only cost 1000 before.
Yes, this is very true, yet another good reason to get the LINE ID, establish a connection, so if the girl moves, you keep in touch, and most likely can continue with her for the same original rate.
It's always fun to do this, sometimes I get a message she's with friends at a disco and then just drop by for dancing and fun there too.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2128679]Sounds about right. Some of us are choosy, me included. Only a couple of really nice ones can be found on the 6 at any given time. Sometimes a guy can get lucky. The thing is girls change from location to location. You can see a girl on soi 6 one month, then at a gogo next month or on your next trip. Same girl now wants a premium rate?
That's what the original conversation was about. The fact that a really pretty girl 'can' be had at a place like soi 6 for 1000 (+300 room fee) one month. Then later, they move to freelance at the clubs or go to a gogo and charge 3 - 4000. It's the same pretty girl that only cost 1000 before.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2128679]Sounds about right. Some of us are choosy, me included. Only a couple of really nice ones can be found on the 6 at any given time. Sometimes a guy can get lucky. The thing is girls change from location to location. You can see a girl on soi 6 one month, then at a gogo next month or on your next trip. Same girl now wants a premium rate?
That's what the original conversation was about. The fact that a really pretty girl 'can' be had at a place like soi 6 for 1000 (+300 room fee) one month. Then later, they move to freelance at the clubs or go to a gogo and charge 3 - 4000. It's the same pretty girl that only cost 1000 before.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2127387]Can't explain it to these knuckleheads. They think we can only get good looking girls at a gogo. AND at a premium cost. LMAO. I tried to tell them the same thing a few months ago. They don't get it![/QUOTE]If I remember correctly the original conversation started when you claimed you could get pretty gogo girls for only 1000-1500 for LT. Later on it turned out this was not entirely true. You were getting equally good looking girls from the clubs and just said no to the gogo girls when they quoted you 3-4000.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2128679]Sounds about right. Some of us are choosy, me included. Only a couple of really nice ones can be found on the 6 at any given time. Sometimes a guy can get lucky. The thing is girls change from location to location. You can see a girl on soi 6 one month, then at a gogo next month or on your next trip. Same girl now wants a premium rate?
That's what the original conversation was about. The fact that a really pretty girl 'can' be had at a place like soi 6 for 1000 (+300 room fee) one month. Then later, they move to freelance at the clubs or go to a gogo and charge 3 - 4000. It's the same pretty girl that only cost 1000 before.[/QUOTE]The fact still remains that it is easier to find prettier girls at the gogos. Admittedly, "gogo quality" doesn't mean all that much as even in gogos I don't find the vast majority of the girls attractive. Many are really no better than SOi 6 girls these days. But in visiting 3-4 average gogos I can usually find something I like and at the top ones (Sensations, Baccara) there will always be a few that are very doable and even some stunners. Much easier than the needle in the haystack search on Soi 6.
Also, once the prettiest girls move up to working in the gogos I think they rarely go back to Soi 6. It's only the less attractive ones, that can't get customers at the gogos that go back.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2127484]I think this dude had a Tiberius fantasy. Remember Tiberius was the tyrannical Roman emperor who lived a life of extraordinary debauchery. For more than a decade in the early part of the first century AD he lived on the picturesque Italian island of Capri. Here he practiced lechery and bloodlust in equal measure. He hosted endless summer orgies where after performing unmentionable sex acts with prostitutes (female and male] he would throw them 300 feet off the cliffs into the sea below.[/QUOTE]Tiberius (Octavius?) is a bit over the top even for most of us.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2126745] He seem to be a big tough looking guy but regardless tough if you are sick due to shit being put into your food, and next up a pack of Thai wolves are all over you. Sure innocent until proven guilty good luck with that line?[/QUOTE]It is usually farangs who get bunged over balconies. What do you mean about drugged food? The bit about going to Thailand to start a new life is iffy. Lots of British crims in and around Pattaya.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2128808]The fact still remains that it is easier to find prettier girls at the gogos. Admittedly, "gogo quality" doesn't mean all that much as even in gogos I don't find the vast majority of the girls attractive. Many are really no better than SOi 6 girls these days. But in visiting 3-4 average gogos I can usually find something I like and at the top ones (Sensations, Baccara) there will always be a few that are very doable and even some stunners. Much easier than the needle in the haystack search on Soi 6.
Also, once the prettiest girls move up to working in the gogos I think they rarely go back to Soi 6. It's only the less attractive ones, that can't get customers at the gogos that go back.[/QUOTE]Good points Uncle V.
We all have to remember that we have different needs / wants. Some guys want eyecandy. They don't care if the girl gives good service or not, they only care that the girl is hot (at least in their eyes).
Some of these guys can afford eye candy so they pay top rate. Some guys are all about value or cost. They are not so concerned about looks. Some guys want chemistry. They prefer to meet the girl and get to know them.
For me, I find Soi 6 to be great value and can offer most of what guys need (except for the ones who just want eye candy).
I found a few really good gems on Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2128727]If I remember correctly the original conversation started when you claimed you could get pretty gogo girls for only 1000-1500 for LT. Later on it turned out this was not entirely true. You were getting equally good looking girls from the clubs and just said no to the gogo girls when they quoted you 3-4000.[/QUOTE]Wrong again! This week, Little Big man and Mr E were talking about the cost of Soi 6 girls and then the same girl moving on to another venue and guys paying a premium. Same girl different price and location.
About 6 months ago, I said basically the same thing. Good looking, 'so-called quality', girls CAN and are had for less. A lot less. Both in clubs and in the gogo. They, the girls, move around.
Case and point. A few weeks ago Mr E just had one of the coveted gogo girls for 1100 baht. Some guys think it doesn't happen.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2128808]Admittedly, "gogo quality" doesn't mean all that much as even in gogos I don't find the vast majority of the girls attractive. Many are really no better than SOi 6 girls these days.[/QUOTE]Exactly. They are the same as the girls in other places (soi 6, massage place, bar, club, supermaket etc.) All for way less.
Does Pattaya has any orgy clubs? What is the scenario?
[QUOTE=FckDick;2128955]Does Pattaya has any orgy clubs? What is the scenario?[/QUOTE]You already made the same question 10 months ago and already got an answer! No orgy clubs in Pattaya. Devil's Den in soi LK Metro is specialized in MFF threesome (or more girls if you wish).
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2128808]
Also, once the prettiest girls move up to working in the gogos I think they rarely go back to Soi 6. It's only the less attractive ones, that can't get customers at the gogos that go back.[/QUOTE]One girl I know since 2012 worked in soi6, she offered full 3 holes service for the usual soi6 price. Then she made a silicone boobs and move to work in agogo asking for 3000 baht ST (sometimes 2000 if she like you) plus drinks and barfine, but she still fuck for 1000 baht outside the gogo with her old customers who know her from soi6.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2128808]Also, once the prettiest girls move up to working in the gogos I think they rarely go back to Soi 6. It's only the less attractive ones, that can't get customers at the gogos that go back.[/QUOTE]This is not true. I have bare backed personally sodomised go go girls I picked up on the Beach Road / Central Road intersection and buggered them from other locations too. The go go scene is not for all of them and tastes in beauty do vary. I have bonked the prettiest but most stressed out go go girls in Thailand. Sure go go girls are paid better but they are paid to make profits for their bosses. Wise go go girls jump ship and pound the malls before descending to Beach Road where a good buck can be made if they keep their shtt together.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2128951]
Case and point. A few weeks ago Mr E just had one of the coveted gogo girls for 1100 baht. Some guys think it doesn't happen.[/QUOTE]Mr E is obviously a very good negotiator. This game is not much different from buying a used car. 1200-1500 LT is very doable in the discos. If you look horny and have poor negotiation skills you will pay the price, and that's OK with me. Overpayers draw talent.
There are some venues where the girls cost 1 baht? What's 1 baht for? If we can't use it individually.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2128978]Mr E is obviously a very good negotiator. This game is not much different from buying a used car. 1200-1500 LT is very doable in the discos. If you look horny and have poor negotiation skills you will pay the price, and that's OK with me. Overpayers draw talent.[/QUOTE]Very good point about overpayers drawing talent and I agree. Whether it is Pattaya or Bangkok, there is a lot of comment about the decline in looks and quality of service, especially with regard to freelancers on the sois and away from the barfine/lady drink system, while at the same time there is crowing about talking them down to 1,000-1,500 baht. Considering the higher standard of living in many areas of Thailand now, I think the two are related.
When a girl travels to work those Pattaya/Bangkok sois and then reports back home how things are going, do we think her even hotter younger sisters are inspired to come down to join her if big sis says she can only squeak out 1,000-1,500 baht on a good night or if she can honestly report that often she pulls 2,000-2,500 baht for just an hour's work?
With the kind of money most guys claim to get away with paying the girls and suggest anyone paying more risks "ruining the market" along with the overall demographic of the likely customers on the scene today, I am surprised ANY really hot and very good in bed Thai girls bother to show up these days.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2128978]Mr E is obviously a very good negotiator. This game is not much different from buying a used car. 1200-1500 LT is very doable in the discos. If you look horny and have poor negotiation skills you will pay the price, and that's OK with me. Overpayers draw talent.[/QUOTE]I did not negotiate. I got her Line when I went to the gogo. She came over one night after work. The next day when she left I gave her what I was going to give her. What I liked about her is that when she walked through the door at 3 am she saw me putting away my laundry and she told me to relax and let her do it.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2128988]When a girl travels to work those Pattaya/Bangkok sois and then reports back home how things are going, do we think her even hotter younger sisters are inspired to come down to join her if big sis says she can only squeak out 1,000-1,500 baht on a good night or if she can honestly report that often she pulls 2,000-2,500 baht for just an hour's work?[/QUOTE]If I was making 150 baht in the hot sun all day on a rice or rubber farm then "I'll take Change Career to Party Girl for 1,000 Alex". It sounds like nothing to you, but it ain't nothing to them. You mean if you had an opportunity to make 8 times the money the easy way you would stay making 150 the hard way? I doubt it.
Another thing you are missing is that the chicks do not think they are an "even hotter" younger sister. If they thought that, they would be somewhere trying to model instead of sell pussy. It is guys that fill their heads with that after they arrive and start offering them 2,500. Stop putting hoes on a pedastal.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129011]If I was making 150 baht in the hot sun all day on a rice or rubber farm then "I'll take Change Career to Party Girl for 1,000 Alex". It sounds like nothing to you, but it ain't nothing to them. You mean if you had an opportunity to make 8 times the money the easy way you would stay making 150 the hard way? I doubt it.
Another thing you are missing is that the chicks do not think they are an "even hotter" younger sister. If they thought that, they would be somewhere trying to model instead of sell pussy. It is guys that fill their heads with that after they arrive and start offering them 2,500. Stop putting hoes on a pedastal.[/QUOTE]No problem finding large numbers of girls with a low self-image (all too often justifiably so) choosing P4P for virtually any amount of money over working all day in the hot sun on a rice or rubber farm for 150 baht. Nobody has said the sois and beer bars are empty of girls like that.
But, in today's economic environment, better looking ones with some concept of what a man might actually trade good money for have many other possible stops on the way they can try before they wind up on Beach Road and Soi 6 in Pattaya or Sukhumvit and Soi 4 in Bangkok. And I'm not saying it wouldn't involve putting out for it in some way like almost every other woman on the Planet. Just that the level of payment she is looking for no longer only exists in the pockets of the tourists she is currently likely to encounter in the bar districts.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129009]I did not negotiate. I got her Line when I went to the gogo. She came over one night after work. The next day when she left I gave her what I was going to give her. What I liked about her is that when she walked through the door at 3 am she saw me putting away my laundry and she told me to relax and let her do it.[/QUOTE]OK, so noted, but I know from previous posts that you are.
My last romp from Insomnia I paid 1200 for, and I also did not negotiate. I was actually not very interested in her but she attached herself to me and after closing she stalked me all the way back to the hotel. LOL.
Turned out to be a really good lay. We had lunch together the next day and when we parted ways, I simply gave her 1200, after which she wai-ed and expressed a wish to see me soon again. Smiles all around.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2129017]OK, so noted, but I know from previous posts that you are.
My last romp from Insomnia I paid 1200 for, and I also did not negotiate. I was actually not very interested in her but she attached herself to me and after closing she stalked me all the way back to the hotel. LOL.
Turned out to be a really good lay. We had lunch together the next day and when we parted ways, I simply gave her 1200, after which she wai-ed and expressed a wish to see me soon again. Smiles all around.[/QUOTE]What time of night or early morning was that? I think that can often have a lot to do with whether a P4P girl even mentions how much or bothers to engage in negotiation above 1,000-1,500 baht.
For example, IMO, it shouldn't require much money negotiation at all to get a typical Pattaya go-go girl to come over after putting in her regular hours and she's looking for a place to crash and sleep off the booze and partying. However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational]I did not negotiate. I got her Line when I went to the gogo. She came over one night after work. The next day when she left I gave her what I was going to give her. What I liked about her is that when she walked through the door at 3 am she saw me putting away my laundry and she told me to relax and let her do it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028] However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]Doesn't this depend on what time they leave? Many don't leave until they have to go to work the following day at 7 pm. Having a nice place really helps girls selecting you over someone else for a 'freebie' night.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2129033]Doesn't this depend on what time they leave? Many don't leave until they have to go to work the following day at 7 pm. Having a nice place really helps girls selecting you over someone else for a 'freebie' night.[/QUOTE]Partially, yes. If your schedule is also to sleep from 8 AM to 2 PM every day and have sex before and after. Mine isn't. Not anymore. I used to think I was getting a great deal when the girl came to my room after her regular work shift and, gee, I can dodge the barfine and lady drink bit. What a deal for me, right? But over time I realized I wasn't getting any kind of great deal at all. I'm getting her when she is dog tired, drunk, cranky, no longer thinking in "provide value for money" mode and primarily seeing my place to crash as a means to essentially add an additional 800 baht or so to what I'm going to pay her in place of her paying for a room on her own, taxi back and forth, whatever.
The guy who bought her a couple of Lady Drinks, paid the 700 baht barfine and took her out for ST at 9:30 PM got a much better deal than most "After Hours" lucky lottery winners get, imo. LOL.
I no longer agree to that deal even when it is offered for "free", which it is offered when you are an expat more often than most think.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028]What time of night or early morning was that? [/QUOTE]As stated "after closing". This must have been the new earlier closing time (whatever that was back in November last year).
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028]
For example, IMO, it shouldn't require much money negotiation at all to get a typical Pattaya go-go girl to come over after putting in her regular hours and she's looking for a place to crash and sleep off the booze and partying. However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]That's true. I once "pulled" a bar beer girl from Soi 7 or 8 (yes a verified lady) for 1000 LT. She later confessed that she hated the stay-in conditions. Very good lay too. I find that that quality of sex often correlates inversely with price paid.
My 1200 LT must have stayed about 8 hrs and qualifies as LT in my book. I can usually use that time quite productively, and I don't care much for the diminishing returns of longer time, plus the added feeding costs, shopping / tipping suggestions etc.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2129047]My 1200 LT must have stayed about 8 hrs and qualifies as LT in my book. I can usually use that time quite productively, and I don't care much for the diminishing returns of longer time, plus the added feeding costs, shopping / tipping suggestions etc.[/QUOTE]As an aside on a related issue, the girls are on a time schedule, too, of course. I have found when taking a girl for ST from a barfine/Lady Drink type venue like a go-go bar or a beer bar at a given time of the evening, it is worth taking into account her bar's closing time and factor that into how it can influence the value and quality of my experience with her:
Assuming her bar closes at 2 AM in these examples, but if it closes at a different time, adjust up or down accordingly:
1) Taking the girl for ST in the 9 PM hour offers the best actual sex, not "best" based on you or her being shitfaced drunk and not knowing the difference between good, bad or no sex at all. She is also in no hurry since there will be plenty of time for her to return to the bar and have a shot at a second barfine.
2) Taking the girl for ST in the 10 PM hour raises the chance of her rushing you through the process. Look for how often the girls you take in that hour have no interest in stopping for a drink in another bar where her "cousin" works, having a bit of food first, languishing about your room to enjoy the ambiance before getting into action and so on. That is because if she can get this ST over within 2 hours max she'll have a full two hours left, the final two hours, back in her bar to score another customer. Not a good time for her to stop looking at her watch and just go with the flow.
3) The 11 PM hour is anybody's guess. She might think she can rush you through the ST at lightning speed and be back to her bar before Midnight for that shot at her second customer. Then again, she might decide this is a dull night in the bar so why not do her thing with you for however long it takes and go home instead of back to the bar. Worst case scenario if she takes the second option is that she wants you to be her last "bar" customer tonight so she can rush to meet her Thai boyfriend at an earlier hour than usual without her having to explain why she didn't go back to the bar to make more money. So she'll be in a rush for a different reason.
4) Taking the girl for ST at or after Midnight raises the possibility that she will consider you her final "bar" customer of the night since she likely would not have time to return to the bar for much of anything before closing. Therefore, you're the guy she pleads with to stop in at this or that bar to buy her and her "cousins" a few drinks, maybe barfine them out for the night, too. Party time? Maybe. But bear in mind her "cousins" will all be girls who probably have not had a Lady Drink bought for them all night or a barfine paid for them all week. Connect the dots on that one.
5) Taking the girl during the last hour before the bar closes, in this example the 1 AM hour, is a bit foolish if you're going to be buying Lady Drinks and paying barfines, imo. Why not get her Line number and just meet her outside in 20 minutes, right? Yes, and that is where you will be getting her at her drunkest, probably your drunkest, she's tired, cranky, might only want to sleep as soon as possible and, at the very least, is no longer in a "provide value for money" mode since she quite rightly could very well assume you aren't going to pay her very much anyway, you Lady Drink-dodging, barfine-avoiding Cheap Charlie, you. LOL.
On my last night in Pattaya, I was headed to WS at around 8 pm when I ran into this 24 year old girl across the street from Mikes Shopping Mall. She was working the beach side of the strip. We had a brief introduction convo and she asked for 2000 for long time until 3pm the next day. So we ended going back to her condo, where she changed and grabbed some clothes, so we could go out to dinner. After dinner, we went back to my room and banged all night. She was about 5'4 and 105 lbs with natural C size cups. Face was only average to below average in looks for being a street freelancer. She was also too slim and firm for my liking, but I still managed to finish because of her BBBJ skills with CIM x 3. She had a distracting tattoo on her back but her ass made up for it. She is a 3 holer and even brought along her sex toy for double penetration. At times she told me she wished I had a friend for kinkier stuff. I'm guessing double dragon action is what she wanted, but her English is only so so, and wasn't sure what she was hinting. Anyways the next day, we exchanged WeChat in case I couldn't find her at her usual spot. So for 2,000. This wasn't bad. I'm sure you can find better looking talent on Soi 6 or LK Metro for cheaper and more value.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2128967]This is not true. I have bare backed personally sodomised go go girls I picked up on the Beach Road / Central Road intersection and buggered them from other locations too. The go go scene is not for all of them and tastes in beauty do vary. I have bonked the prettiest but most stressed out go go girls in Thailand. Sure go go girls are paid better but they are paid to make profits for their bosses. Wise go go girls jump ship and pound the malls before descending to Beach Road where a good buck can be made if they keep their shtt together.[/QUOTE]I was talking about Soi 6 and you bring up evidence from BR. And I wasn't saying that gogo girls don't give up the gogos (yes its stressful and more work there), buy that the prettier ones tend to stay in the gogos while the less attractive ones (who have trouble getting drinks and BFs) are the ones that usually move on to different venues.
In any case, at least in my experience, finding "gogo quality" girls (I. E. Girls that are attractive enough to work in a gogo) on BR is even more difficult than it is on Soi 6. In all my wanderings along BR I can count on one hand girls that I would go home with.
I've made a concerted effort walking Beach Road this week. 4 times from central festival to walking street between 7:30 and 10 pm. Some posters here believe there are top quality gogo girls on Beach road. Either we have totally different taste in girls or I need glasses because I certainly didn't see any. There was 1 who I would buy a drink for at a gogo bar or soi 6.
Am I walking along Beach road at the wrong time? If so what time should I be be walking and I'll check it out at that time.
ET, I agree not worth waiting if barfine only 800 baht but, unlike BKK, greedy gogo bars are charging 2000 barfines here. My favorite thing is when girls get barfined by a Korean or Japanese guy, Lines me before she leaves the bar to tell me she will be over to hang out in about an hour. No barfine, no 5000 baht bill. Just feed her and make her happy.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2129111]ET, I agree not worth waiting if barfine only 800 baht but, unlike BKK, greedy gogo bars are charging 2000 barfines here. My favorite thing is when girls get barfined by a Korean or Japanese guy, Lines me before she leaves the bar to tell me she will be over to hang out in about an hour. No barfine, no 5000 baht bill. Just feed her and make her happy.[/QUOTE]Ouch. Yeah, in the case of a mid-evening meet up, your scenario is a clear winner. Of course, there are go-go bars in Bangkok where the barfine for many (Coyote type) girls is 2,000-3,000 baht. But to be honest with you, unless the girl was gorgeous and as fully accommodating as one of my real GFs, I probably still wouldn't wait until after 3 AM to shag her on those terms in order to save the 2,000 baht and the cost of a couple of Lady Drinks. LOL. As an expat living here, that is.
Intro: OK- stoked for my triumphant return to Patts. My first time, I got a serious case of oneitis, and although the girl was great, I seriously limited myself. Not this time! We will be here for 3 nights.
Checked into The Stay a little past 10 and headed straight to Soi 6. Oh how I've missed you 10 baht buses. Walked down to Beach Road and back, a couple at Red Point stood out from the pack so in we went for drinks. My buddy and I bought the 2 drinks; the one with him was much more playful and outgoing, I would've taken her in a heartbeat. Mine seemed disinterested and did not speak much English so I moved on after the drink. Bought a drink for another cutie that seemed ok, but she was not ok with CIM or rimming, I said no thanks. At this point my buddies girl and the mamasan were playfully calling me a butterfly, and I chuckled (I am what I am! Ha!) Scanned the room and found one that had a tall slender body and passable face, bought her a drink, negotiated terms and off we went. Aside from the picture I have of us in the room, nothing else really comes to mind. I needed a release and she served the purpose.
As I never got to hit LK Metro my first time here I figured we could ease ourselves into the agogos and go here our first night since it was close to our hotel anyway. We had beers and watched the rotations at Ninja, Paradise, Touch, and a few others. I honestly did not see anything that truly excited me, but bought a drink for a girl with large natural hooters at some agogo around closing time. She said she would come to my hotel after she got off. Yeah right haha. Not the opening night I was hoping for, I will have to hit the ground running tomorrow!
Woke up and grabbed lunch at Hooters, man there were some serious stunners there! You guys think they are ex bar girls with sponsors now?
I did not get a chance to hit Kinnaree during my first visit here, so that was high on my list as well. We headed down via Baht Bus, got off at Phra Tamnak, and walked the rest of the way. Ok it was a little farther of a walk than I thought haha. Got in and was surprised how dark it was inside. We got a spot on the couch (best seat in the house IMO) and had some beers while our eyes adjusted. I made a classic rookie mistake and let the first girl who asked to sit sit down next to me. Nice body, ok face, was into me exciting my Johnson pretty quickly. Continued to survey the room and all that caught my eye was a girl with blonde hair in a tight red dress that was with a customer. Well back to my girl, started making out and gave the body a feel. Ok ass, minimal stomach fat (my pet. peeve) and the assurance that she will make me happy. OK we will see about that. Booked the room and 10 minutes later off we went. In the light her face showed some acne but outside of that my assessment was not far off. Showered together and then got busy. I cannot recall much about this encounter, but I do remember she put in a lot of effort, particularly in the blowjob and riding me. This however was all overshadowed by the fact that when I was finishing doggie I noticed she was super wet and then looked down to see a bloody condom. Goddamn, put it out of my mind so I could finish and then showered. Paid up, thanked her, and didn't wait up. Went back to my place on the couch and who is standing alone behind me but the girl in the red dress. Drink? Ok. Her name was Nan, and I got hard the moment she sat down. Did some light kissing, and she reached down to my crotch and seemed to be turned on that I was that erect for her. "room?" she asks. Yes go book it. My buddy told me he was going to get a threesome so I knew I had some time. As she got up and walked away, I saw the first girl I went with give me a sad puppy face. I bought her a drink as a peace offering and told her I'm a butterfly. She gave a smile and seemed to understand. Off to the bedroom with Nan, and she was the full package, showered up and onto the bed for a great blowjob. She asked if I wanted the rubber, and I said no I was enjoying this too much. 5 minutes more and I couldn't wait to enter! On the okamoto. 02 went and she went at it with some memorable reverse cowgirl. Loving the view and impressed by her sexual stamina, I enjoyed the show. Turned her around so I could suck on those titties and she rode away. Sensing she was starting to tire, I pushed her back for some missionary. Then had her get on her knees and pounded away doggie, Tugged her arm to get into position and erupted on her tits and her face as she stared me down. Loved it. Asked what she was doing later and she said she'the be at I-Bar. Got her Line and said I'd see her later. No man, do not do this to yourself, there are a plethora of options in Patts!
My buddy seemed happy with his 3 some and said that it was well worth it for the BJ portion, and to be able to pound one doggy while the other sucked on his balls. He said the cumshot was also amazing to. Hmm maybe I'll have to partake.
We moved on to Heaven around 5, and what a waste of time that was. There were 2 girls there and we walked out. Took a Motor taxi (so much quicker! Well worth the extra 2-3 bucks haha) back to the hotel and showered up. Headed north thinking I might partake in a soapy. Stopped into both Sabai Dee and Honey Body 2 and man were there some stunners in there. Keeping in mind the mechanical session (s) I had during my last visit, and the fact that you can't really establish any rapport with these girls beforehand, we opted to take off to Soi 6. We walked down just to before Red Point and turned around (not trying to get roped in by the girls from yesterday). My buddy said he wasn't ready for another round so would just follow my lead. I had my eye on one of the stewardesses dressed in blue, but then saw a nice spinner at the bar next door called Ruby Bar. Bought her a drink, and ended up liking her a lot. Got a room and pounded her out. Got her line and asked what she was doing later, she said long time 2000 because she likes me. I did make her cum, so maybe that's partly true haha. We took off for Walking Street.
The moment we got there around midnight, we were both thinking why the f did we waste our time at LK Metro? Went into Skyfall and each spotted some hotties. I liked my buddies girl I am sure you have all seen her. She looks like a pornstar and will give one hell of a lap dance, but will not leave with customers. I met a fellow from Canada my last night there that said he was taken for 5 drinks from her as well. Such a shame. Or maybe she is just super selective? Either way, one hell of a body! Still had Nan in my head so I sent her a message on Line but no reply, probably for the better. We took off and I had to stop in to see my favorite Mamasan at one of those beer bars in Simon. Yes part of me wanted to see the girl I fell for last time, but she was on holiday. Probably a blessing as I probably would've barfined her. Did some shots of tequila and said we be back later / tomorrow. On to Baccara for some beers, but nothing really stood out. My buddy said he was tired so I said ok, we can go hard tomorrow. Back to the hotel and I hit up my Soi 6 girl. She came by at 3 am and we proceeded to bang all night bareback. Oh why do you do this? So reckless, but damn did it feel good. Woke up just before checkout and got another session in. Gave her 3000 and headed for a cooking class at 1 (got to look busy so I have something to tell the girlfriend / fam back home that I did haha).
Checked out of the Stay and into Grand for our last planned night in Pattaya. I highly recommend this hotel for its proximity to Walking Street, it cannot be beat!
We checked in around 3:30 then took a motor taxi to Kinnaree. Nan came over and asked for a drink, but I called her out for not replying to my message on Line. She gave me some nonsense about how she didn't have wifi, ok. Well your loss. Had 2 drinks before we would call anyone over to make sure our eyes were 100% adjusted, then started making moves. My buddies girls from yesterday came by and talked with him for a little while. The first girl I had also came by and said Hello, and playfully joked if I was going to have 2 girls today, I said we will see what happens, maybe 3 haha. 2 stood out that happened to both be with customers: Lisa and Thai?. We decided to wait for them as they had amazing bodies. When the girls were finished with their customers they came over. We were both satisfied with our choices and had them book rooms. Man did Lisa have a great ass (pictured). When those clothes came off I could not believe the body! I knew this was going to be fun. As I was admiring her body, she playfully asked if I was going to fuc* her or just stare. So we got busy. The sight of that ass in doggie will forever be in my spank bank. Great session! I got her line and we went out to wait for my buddy. I asked what she was doing and she said probably working out at the gym. I said we should all grab some dinner, and she said ok but we just couldn't leave together so she'the pick me up on the corner down the street. My buddy came out and I told him the plan, and he ran it by his lady, but she said she had plans. Darn that would've been money. Oh well off to dinner we went. Lisa drove like a maniac and my adrenaline junkie self was loving it. IT was pretty hilarious- the taxi driver my buddy was with could not keep up and they ended up losing us half way haha.
After dinner we parted ways and walked to the hotel. Showered and headed out. My buddy was obsessed with that Skyfall girl so we went there first. The one entertaining me from yesterday was not there and nothing else really caught my eye so I told my buddy that I was going to go see what else was out there as he said he was going to barfine this one (again we did not realize she was a coyote). I headed for Whatsupp and locked eyes on one. Her name was Nam and what a beauty (2nd picture below). She said 3000 short time plus 1000 barfine and was standing pat with the blowjob with condom only. She said she would not be hurt if I chose someone else. I did a quick survey of the room and decided that she was Mel Kiper's best available. My buddy hit me up with the news that his goddess could not be barfined and met me at Whatsupp. I could tell he was jealous I had Nam haha. I told him to his some other agogos and I'the meet him when I was finished. Back to the room, I had instant rapport with Nam, she was a real sweetheart, and kept calling bullshit on all of my lines I was feeding her. The truth is that just looking at her made me hard, so I figured I wouldn't even need a blowjob. Clothes came off and what a body! I cannot even describe in words as at this point I was in a state of euphoria. Damn condoms taking away the feeling. Is it ridiculous that as I was nailing her doggie I was imagining barebacking my soi 6 girl later on? LOL. Standard procedure I got her Line ID and asked what she was doing later. She sounded like she had plans but said she could see me tomorrow. We walked outside and there was my buddy smoking a cigarette. I told her I loved her and she gave me another one of her cute "bullshit"s and we headed to some other agogos. Not much happening at Dollhouse and Windmill, we stopped back into Simon (I forget the bar but it is the first to last in the back right corner) to see my favorite mamasan. Bought her a tequila and told her I was leaving tomorrow so she in turn returned the tequila. 3 shots later, I could tell my buddy was still bummed by the Skyfall girl. I don't blame him, she was a true stunner, what a tease! He said nothing could compare and said he had a girl he met in Ruby Bar when I was upstairs is coming within the half hour. I decided to hit up my soi 6 girl for another fun night of banging. She said she would be there in an hour. OK I decided to stop back by Simon to see if anything caught my eye nope, but did rip a couple more shots of tequila with mamasan. She offered up a young thing that looked fresh, but I passed. I decided to close down whatsup and bought a drink for one of the other girls that caught my eye earlier. She is a pretty little thing with glasses, you can't miss her. She said I was too big though. Yeah right, I am below average in the US! Haha. Closed down the bar and as I was walking to Grand my soi 6 girl was pulling up on her motorbike taxi. Talk about impeccable timing! Thinking that was my last night with her, my body was ready for one of those sex marathons 7 fucks later and it was time to check out. Off to Bangkok we go. I got to say I feel I could've done better during my stay here.
Last week I went to check out some of the gogos since it had been awhile. I usually only go to a few gogos when a friend is in town. We go to see something new, drink a few beers, fondle the girls, buy them some drinks, and then move it over to the clubs. I liked one of the girls and had good vibes from her. I already knew the barfine was high and I'm not a barfine guy anyway. I told here where we were going and suggested that we can meet up later (if she didn't have a man). She gave me her number / line ID and off we go. A few hours later after 2 am, I sent her a text to see if she was still ok with coming to my room. She texted me back and was getting off soon. Then she hit me up for 3,000 her st price. I countered with 1,000 for ST. She said ok. I told my friend I was leaving and jumped on my bike to go back to my condo to meet her. She showed right after me, still in a great mood, and everything was fine. Had a sweet session and then she hit the showers. I put a 1,000 baht bill next to her purse and I went to shower. I came out and she was in bed waiting. I turned on the tv thinking she was leaving soon anyway. She snuggled up and we both fell asleep. I woke up a few hours later and started round 2. Same great attitude. We got done and she went to shower and got dressed to leave. I gave her an extra 200 baht for taxi. I figure she had to take a taxi to come to me and go home. Plus she was great, so why not. I know, I don't want to start a trend or anything with paying her taxi but at the same time, I'm thinking of a repeat visit. Had she stayed a little later, I would have given her a ride home but I wanted to sleep more.
I need to get out more often and rebuild my numbers.
Man it sure feels good to be back! Checked into Grand Hotel and took a motorbike taxi to Kinnaree. Half the girls were ones that I had not seen before. I was actually interested in the one my buddy had last time (Thai?) as her body and face were ridiculous. My buddy found another one that was pretty solid, and ended up giving him the blowjob of his life! I was impressed with the patience and control that I was exercising at this point, when I saw a girl walk up to the bar that caught my eye. She smiled when walking by and I looked over in her direction. There is a friendly older provider here- Veeva? That is very nice and asked if I liked anyone. I motioned towards her, and Koy was her name. She said she would come over after she was done with her customer. 10 minutes later she came and I got her a drink. IT was now about 5 and she broke the news that she could not go with me as there is a 30 min wait on the rooms and she has to be at work in LK Metro at 6. Dangit! I asked my buddy if I could just take his room, and he said no problem, but the girls said we cannot as it was already charged to him. Then Koy said why don't I pay the barfine and she can come to my hotel. She said she has a motorbike, so she can just give me a ride back. Money! Paid the tab and off we went. I must say it is fun riding on the back of a scooter with a pretty thai lady. Back to the room and I was just going through the motions at this point, her tits weren't as big as I thought (pictured) I think my problem is that I just enjoy the chase. You know JFK said the chase is always better than the kill? I tend to agree. Pounded away doggie style and shot it all over her at $$.
Now check this out. I walk out to smoke a cigarette and see this incredibly attractive girl pull up on her motorbike and park it outside the hotel. I'm thinking she must work at one of these gogos and I am going to find out which one. She turns the corner towards walking street, looks over her shoulder and sees me, DOH I've been made already, well there goes my career as a spy, haha. I just walk straight and grab some San Mig Lights from 711, when my buddy shows up out of no where. I tell him I found my stunner, and he seems interested in trying to find her. We walk towards that direction and at this point, I am thinking she is lost. All of a sudden I see her walk out of the 7/11 further down the walking street and into Bliss. OK I will see you latah!
Taking the lessons learned from before we decide to hit the gogos around 930 this go round. We are ready around 9 so we go pay a surprise visit to mamasan in that simon beer bar. Only this time I notice a girl who I've seen in pictures with the girl I fell for last year. We introduce ourselves and her name was Joy, nice body and quite a beauty. We rip some shots of tequila and I ask her if shed be interested in long time wit my friend. She says yes. We head to Baccara, nothing doing, and move onto Happy agogo. My buddy spots a hot chick with some old Chinese man. I make eye contact with her and give her the drink motion and she nods. Not sure if she is coming over or not, she does leave them after 10 minutes or so. The dirty looks we got from the Chinese were priceless! She is a true beauty and my buddy said he will barfine her. I told him I'm going to Bliss and I'll meet him at the hotel after these short time sessions. I be-line it to Bliss, and see her on stage right when I walk in. She smiles and I ask her if I can buy her a drink, she says when she is finished dancing, her name is Dao (pictured). Another cutie in the place was smiling at me, and I honestly would have taken her if my heart wasn't already set on Dao. Well I did buy her a drink while waiting but told her I was going with Dao. I said maybe ill come back for her later and she perked up. Dao came over and man what a beauty. She had the makeup caked on, and I think I liked her more when I saw her earlier without it. 3000ST + 1000 Barfine, done, we go back for one of the more memorable sessions. Just when we got into the room, my buddy was coming back and I tell him he has to come see this girl, he is amazed. His girl was pretty sexy to, as she closes the door I say "I know you'll be thinking about that old Chinese guy" and she laughs. Now Dao and I get busy. Passionate kisses followed by a sensual blowjob, I am digging her vibe. Unrushed, just the way I like it. I am really feeling this girl. Rather than just straight bone, I can say we did a little love making. The rest is a blur, and I think my only regret from this night was not taking her long time!
From here, I have missed calls from Nam, Oh yeah I told her that I would come see her at Whats Up at open,. Whoops! We head there and man she is looking as stunning as ever. I tell her that my buddy wants to do some more partying, but I will pay her barfine and come back for her. Was this not a good move? She said it was ok and I figured I was just reserving her for myself, no? We head to Skyfall, and my buddy still tries for that pornstar looking one, offering 12,000 short time. She says she will go but just to hang out, get the f out of here! I do see the girl that was dancing on me from day 2 though. She sits with me and asks why I never came back for her.
We head back to Simon and rip more tequila. My buddy said he is just going to barfine Joy LT, I said you can't go wrong. I leave and say I'm going to get Nam and bring her here. Back at Whats Up she sees me and changes. I see the one with the glasses who told me I am too big and just offer outlandish numbers at her to see if she'the budge but there is nothing shed take to go with me LOL. I see Nam poke her head out an motion for me to come back. I do, and she gives me money back. WTF? She says she is on her period and that she's sorry. Damnit! Well there was no reasoning with her, I took that 4000 and walked to Skyfall and gave it to the girl from before. She seemed surprised, but happy and off we went. I think she was put off when we got back to the room as she saw the used shower cap and started calling me a butterfly. Oh well. She had great tits, meh behind. Probably the most painful BJ I've ever had. Like over the top sucking. Bruises on the shaft the next day fellas, not good. Anyway, this was the only girl that I could not finish with. She seemed distraught about it and said she would give me my money back. I said its not necessary, I've just had a lot to drink and also hate condoms. We went at it again, but it was obvious I was not blowing. She acted like she wanted to stay, but I had already made arrangements for my soi 6 girl to come by, so I had to shoe her out. She gave me my money back and walked out. I caught up to her, gave her half and said good night.
At this point it is 4 am and I told soi 6 girl 3 am. Whoops. I call her and she said she will come. In the meantime my buddy pulls up on a motorbike taxi with Joy and says they had to go get her Dog. LOL! I am like, man it looks like you've been on some boondoggles. No worries though as she took good care of him thereafter! My girl finally pulled up and we got a quick bb session in and passed out. I woke up around 10 am and banged her out 4 or 5 times until late checkout at 1 pm.
OK, now I feel that I've achieved my full potential. Until next time Patts. I'm out fellow mongerers!
-HBK.
Hardknock, thank you so much for all your Bangkok and Pattaya reviews. Nice to read things that aren't about the 'good old days' 20 years ago.
Hardknock, I finished reading your trip reports a few minutes ago. They indicate a certain style and oeuvre while doing BKK & Pat with your buddy. I also like your taste in girls. Glad you had a good time. I know your reports are just the tip of the iceberg, but they are definitely ROD material. Welcome to the ISG. So, where else have you knocked about?
As someone who is in Pattaya now, I've got to tell you that you guys have done super great! Hats off to you guys.
I think the girls seem to truly like you! You've obviously got some game! Cheers and all the best!
Hey guys. I'm here alone,3rd time in Pattaya. Having a great time so far. Any want to share some stories over some drinks. I'm 40 Hispanic form USA. Super chillin. Gets along with everyone. Just want to talk a break from all these LT sessions. LOL. Maybe check out other bars. Hit me up on line.
Cms77.
Or PM me.
Hardknock.
You are the man. I love your reports and you have me hanging for my 5 days in Patts and 2 in BKK in just over 2 weeks. I hope I have half as much fun as you guys.
Thanks again man and its a shame I wasn't on the ground with you.
Rob.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028]However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]The girl that I had stayed from 3 am to 1 pm. If 10 hours is not a real Long Time, then how many hours would you say is?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2129066] I'm sure you can find better looking talent on Soi 6 or LK Metro for cheaper and more value.[/QUOTE]That girl is much better than anything I saw on soi 6 in October.
All, thanks for the kind words! I wasn't sure how much substance my reports really offered as I didn't get into prices that much and wasn't sure what value all my "rambling" would truly offer. Reading back over them, I did leave some minor things out like I went back into Bliss after the shocker from Nam to see Dao, but she had a customer. She still came over for a drink and I could sense her customer staring so I went in for one last obnoxious make out session, haha. The cutie from earlier was also no where to be found, but I am not sure I would've taken her there as I wouldn't want to make Dao look bad. The soi 6 girl charged 2000 the first two nights and the last night didn't ask for anything. Just one of those "up to you" I hate when they say that LOL. I gave her 1000.
I really should be saying thank you to all of you who consistently contribute throughout the year; reading your posts helped keep me focused on doing better this go round! During my first visit in March, I had 2 girls in Phuket over 3 days, 3 in Pattaya, and 0 in Bangkok as I fell in love with the beer bar girl Patty and brought her with me to BKK. Fun, but limited the trip. In one of my reports I actually said "I think I'm falling for this girl" LOL! A couple members straight up called me out (thank you BkkDog, MR E and BB) for not thinking rationally.
The only rule I broke this go round was that I said I wouldn't repeat with any girls, and I did twice; Once in Bangkok due to there literally being nothing NYE and the soi 6 girl who loved sex and would do anything over the course of the night a steal when most providers consider long time 2 pops. Nam would've been 3, but I guess that one wasn't meant to be. Well ok I lied, I did break another cardinal rule and will be on edge for the next few weeks- I went bareback with a Bangkok bargirl, the soi 6 girl all 3 LTs, and a LT session with a girl in HCMC. God it felt so good. Please please let me come out of this unscathed and I will wear condoms! . until it just inadvertently happens during that next GFE. Fml.
Man, I activated my tinder and thai friendly account a month before arriving, and had all these freelancer contacts set up. Guess how many I saw guys? F'in 0! The concept was there, but shit there were just too many options. Something for everyone in the land of smiles! My buddy loved Kinnaree, I am a fan of Soi 6, we BOTH loved Walking Street haha. I talked with a couple veterans who had been there more than a dozen times and one loved the beer bars (the fact that they are behind the bar just seems limiting, there can be a gem every now and then like Joy and Patty inside Simon), and others were all about the freelancers. We did do one lap through Lucifer one night but it was so damn loud in there, I questioned my ability to build any rapport or even negotiate prices. Myself being a binge drinking idiot, I also do not need to be buying full bottles of liquor as it never ends well! In the end, we decided that buying a 5 dollar lady drink in exchange for a lapdance, inspection of the goods, and establishing rapport is the best policy. I mean shit! In north America a lapdance is $20 and you MIGHT be able to touch. But even then you are stuck with blue balls as it's incredibly hard to pull them.
Oh the Pattaya / Thailand withdrawals are real! Fortunately, I took some good videos to perk me up, but they only go so far. Got a handful of line ids but you guys know how those conversations go- there's only so many "I miss you!" and "How are you" before you're over it. I didn't really talk money but I just looked at my spends. To be expected, fun had a direct relationship with spending. My budgeted spend per day was $200, it worked the first 2 days, but then doubled on my last planned day there as I wanted to do as much as possible. The impulse "hot route" return came in $700. Veterans can shake their heads here, I know it was reckless buying all the drinks and whatnot, but I guess we just like to have fun. Wherever you are in the world when you are having fun the girls can sense it and will want in. IMHO. Honestly, I am a pretty frugal person at home, but my buddy and I were talking and shit who knows the next time we will be here, healthy, and ready to go! It really is only money and you can't take it with you. Thinking of that 15 HR flight makes me want to throw up! I used to fancy providers in the US but we are talking 3-500 dollars per hour! Now I just fight the urge, think about how far that 9-16,000 baht can go in Pattaya, and jerk off / bone my girlfriend (I have issues I know LOL). I don't know how it was in Patts 10-20 years ago, but I've mongered in Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Amsterdam, USA, Canada, Spain, Mexico, and Vietnam, and all I know is that Pattaya is my best available option NOW!
TL; DR.
My buddy and I are talking about coming back in September. I said it is one of the rainier months, and he said "what do we do in Pattaya when its sunny out?" I said "bone bargirls ", he said "what do we do in Pattaya when it's raining?" . Ahh the student has become the teacher. The quote of the trip was when we were sitting in Skyfall with topless girls grinding on us after we bought them a lady drink and he said "mutherf'er why didn't you prep me for this? I guess I just didn't want to tell him too much as it's best to experience everything yourself without anyone's preconceived notions. He did thank me for pushing the individual rooms. LOL. I met a cool at $$ canadian fellow in Skyfall while I was waiting for the girl to get ready my last night and we ripped some shots. He spoke very highly of Phnom Penh and said he was doing 10 days there after 6 in Pattaya. I may try and add this to the itinerary this fall.
I think my game plan would be as follows:
-Kinnaree at 2 pm to get a place on the couch and pounce on a worthy candidate.
-Soi 6 from 5-7 to find another worthy candidate, Simon Beer complex to search out hidden gem at 8:30/ tequillas with mamasan.
-Walking street at 9, NLT 10 (we were heading out at midnight and that was an oversight on our part, we could've already had a short time with a stunner by then!
-Get a short time in, then back out to walking street to search out another ST / LT candidate while having Soi 6 / Kinnaree girls as backup options (key word backup haha).
That's all I got fellas, hopefully next time I can meet up with some of the "brotherhood"! More the merrier imo! . My buddy and I were just talking about how hard it would be to describe Pattaya to people back in America. My buddy said "it is the end of the world", I call it "heaven".
I have over the last couple of days enjoyed reading Hardknocks reports and, for a first time visitor to Thailand soon found them educational.
"Man, I activated my tinder and thai friendly account a month before arriving, and had all these freelancer contacts set up. Guess how many I saw guys? F'in 0! The concept was there, but shit there were just too many options. ".
This being the most relevant to me. My trip is in 2 weeks and like the quote above I have started to make some freelance contacts. I'm thinking of changing tact and to enjoy the hunt and save my contacts when things look a bit desperate. I do have a bi-sexual couple organised for a threesome and that will be possibly the only contact I will keep.
Thanks again Hardknocks.
Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2130057]
I'm thinking of changing tact and to enjoy the hunt and save my contacts when things look a bit desperate.
[/QUOTE]Rob, I think the pivot is a solid move. I get a bit ocd at times and overplan, but no day ever followed suit, if anything it was the complete opposite. Time flies when you're on the ground there so just manage it as effectively as possible. I love the 10 baht buses for example, but sitting in traffic repeatedly is killer. Motorbike taxis all day every day. With the online contacts there is also the risk that they aren't as good looking or have old pictures. My 'plan' was to innocently invite a bunch out to a bar for drinks and pick / choose from there. Just never got a chance to put it into motion. Why gamble when there are sure things right under your nose you know? Just my 2 cents.
Cheers, you will have a blast.
[QUOTE=HardKnock734;2130069]Rob, I think the pivot is a solid move. I get a bit ocd at times and overplan, but no day ever followed suit, if anything it was the complete opposite. Time flies when you're on the ground there so just manage it as effectively as possible. I love the 10 baht buses for example, but sitting in traffic repeatedly is killer. Motorbike taxis all day every day. With the online contacts there is also the risk that they aren't as good looking or have old pictures. My 'plan' was to innocently invite a bunch out to a bar for drinks and pick / choose from there. Just never got a chance to put it into motion. Why gamble when there are sure things right under your nose you know? Just my 2 cents.
Cheers, you will have a blast.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mate.
Like you I overplan and usually it doesn't work as well as I think it should so I will save my online contacts for when I am stuck but it will be like taking ice to the Arctic.
Thanks Rob.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129979]The girl that I had stayed from 3 am to 1 pm. If 10 hours is not a real Long Time, then how many hours would you say is?[/QUOTE]I already wrote a bit more detail previously why that doesn't work for me as a "LT" from a P4P perspective even though she is in my room for a "long time".
If I have to elaborate further I guess I would say it is because it runs so contrary to my own sleep and waking up schedule; if I am finishing the first round that time of the morning (say about 5 am if not later) and then finishing the second round by 12:30 pm that afternoon (likely having begun that same morning) with a few hours sleep in between, I feel like I am just packing it in twice on the same day, in fact the same morning by virtually any usual definition, in order to accommodate HER After Hours schedule instead of my normal night time interest and normal morning interest in having sex, such that it is for me these days.
And I said that is from someone who lives here, not an overseas tourist whose sleep and waking up schedule is likely mixed up for a while anyway.
[QUOTE=HardKnock734;2130008] Got a handful of line ids but you guys know how those conversations go- there's only so many "I miss you!" and "How are you" before you're over it. [/QUOTE]Yes, that is the majority of Line IDs that I collected too. Too many simple text messages. Same situation with girls from ThaiFriendly/ThaiFlirting, beer bars, and go go bars.
But there can be a few good ones too. I've had interesting text messages and video chats with a go-go girl ever since I met her in November. Been doing the same with a Thai girl I met in a restaurant in January. I'll spend a week with one or both on my next visit. To make this work you need a girl with a decent brain and the ability to speak English, there are a few.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2130057]I have over the last couple of days
"Man, I activated my tinder and thai friendly account a month before arriving, and had all these freelancer contacts set up. Guess how many I saw guys? F'in 0! The concept was there, but shit there were just too many options. ".
Rob.[/QUOTE]That's reality bro, thumbs up. Been there done that, prior Patts visit I have always sort of collected online contacts but man o man the live opportunities are endless.
[QUOTE=HardKnock734;2129728] My girl finally pulled up and we got a quick bb session in and passed out. I woke up around 10 am and banged her out 4 or 5 times until late checkout at 1 pm.
-HBK.[/QUOTE]Wow you are racking up some impressive stats. You don't mention your age, but you appear to be able to climax 6 or 7 times a day for 3 days straight!
You might want to consider a new career as a porn star. (LOL).
I am thinking about planning my next vacations in Pattaya because I am quite attracted to that place. I love the culture, cuisine and nature of this country, and since whenever I visit a place, I also want to know how local women are, do you have any comments about their personality?
[QUOTE=TunningRob;2130574]I am thinking about planning my next vacations in Pattaya because I am quite attracted to that place. I love the culture, cuisine and nature of this country, and since whenever I visit a place, I also want to know how local women are, do you have any comments about their personality?[/QUOTE]Everything they say is fake.
They are jealous as hell.
There love is as deep as your wallet.
Watch out for sick buffalo / family stories.
Respect the 3 day rule (never spend more than 3 days with the same).
Besides that? Very nice people.
[QUOTE=TunningRob;2130574]I am thinking about planning my next vacations in Pattaya because I am quite attracted to that place. I love the culture, cuisine and nature of this country, and since whenever I visit a place, I also want to know how local women are, do you have any comments about their personality?[/QUOTE]You mean the partying, mongering, hookering culture? As JoeFox said, don't believe anything that those women tell you. And I would not advise to stay with one chick 3 days. 1 is enough. Catch and release is the name of the game in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=JoeFox;2130712]Everything they say is fake.
They are jealous as hell.[/QUOTE]Let me add that the jealousy is also fake. It's a game to make you feel guilty so you can't let them go. I'll also add that crying is fake too.
I agree. Never stay with the same girl more than 1 consecutive day. Maybe 2 days max per week. They will look as you as an easy mark if you do. You'll think she loves you but she's actually laughing at you behind your back.
[QUOTE=JoeFox;2130712]
Watch out for sick buffalo / family stories..[/QUOTE]
I'm still waiting for my first sick buffalo story. Does this really still happen?
There are about 5 - 6 soapy massage parlors in Pattaya. Does anybody have any body to body massage experiences in those soapy massage parlors in the past 30 days? Please share your experiences. Thanks.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2130813]There are about 5 - 6 soapy massage parlors in Pattaya. Does anybody have any body to body massage experiences in those soapy massage parlors in the past 30 days? Please share your experiences. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Doesn't really matter if it's 1 month or more than 6 months. It will be the same. The experience depends on if you and the girl hit it off. IMO, it's fine for a first time visit. After that, the originality / novelty is gone. Better options out there.
Hi all,
Looking for some newbie advice in Pattaya. Me and for of my friends are staying in a private pool villa and wanted to get 5-6 girls over for a party (and then maybe an orgy. Earlier we had thought of getting the girls from DD but the girls are not good looking. Any recommendations of places where we can get 5-6 girls who get along together and also are hot.
Finally made it back! Place is paradise! On my first night I went easy due to being tired from long flight. I visited Annabelle to look for lady from last trip. Sure enough she was there. We went and checked out Insomnia and Ibar. Then we ended up at the Indian club on walking street. Close to Insomnia and got to walk up stairs to get to it. They dance so sexy. Didn't seem like you were able to barfine lady from here. Does anyone know for sure? Few were sexy as hell!
Day 2. I visited 3 gogos. Windmill, Annabelle and Bliss.
Started out at windmill around 8 pm. Not as many lookers as last trip in Sept but the place was really lively. Mamasan remember be from last time. Had customers move to make room. Bought Mamasan a drink and it paid off as usual. She send two of the best ladies my direction. I wanted to barfine both of them but I resisted and moved on.
Next I checked in at Annabelle to see if line up changed from night before. Nope! Really heavy younger ladies. I stayed for a hour and met up with a fellow ISG member. Nothing caught his eye either so we moved on to check out bliss.
Bliss. I'd guess and say it was around midnight. It seems they either had a shortage of ladies or we showed up late. Seemed like maybe 8 ladies and 30 customers. We did a you-turn at the door. I will say the ladies were better lookers vs Annabelle. Dressed in sexy red lingerie. I will try to visit again a little earlier.
Fellow ISG hadn't been to windmill so we doubled back. Upon arriving same two ladies came back to me. Both kept talking about teamwork. One was sexy young petite and the other was same same but little more meat and really really naughty. The word didn't do her justice. After contemplating one or both I splurged and went for both. Wow! Glad I did. After a great night at Insomnia we returned to hotel. I started out preheating the ovens and they both assisted each other. Next one lady started with a BBBJ and the other with some anal action. Had the king treatment. I started out with the sexier lady and man was she nice and tight. I was barely hanging on after what they did for FS started. So I turned to other lady pretty quick. Not as tight but nice and juicy. I finished shooting load down naughty lady mouth. This was my 3rd 3 some in Thailand and no others compared. Some lady act naughty and different in room. This was NOT the case. Teamwork was exactly what occurred. I'm sorry I have no names or numbers. Not even sure I got the names to be honest.
Seems windmill is so far my go to place. Is there anything better? Tonight I meet up with 2 fellow ISG members. Hoping to his the two different dolls. Dollhouse and living dolls? Still never been by skyfall yet either. Will try to swing by it also.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2131015]Then we ended up at the Indian club on walking street. Close to Insomnia and got to walk up stairs to get to it. They dance so sexy. Didn't seem like you were able to barfine lady from here. Does anyone know for sure? Few were sexy as hell![/QUOTE]Which club are you referring to? Was it 'Nashaa' by any chance? Let me know or send a PM and I can help you with the standard operating procedure there. In the meanwhile, enjoy!
[QUOTE=TunningRob;2130574]I am thinking about planning my next vacations in Pattaya because I am quite attracted to that place. I love the culture, cuisine and nature of this country, and since whenever I visit a place, I also want to know how local women are, do you have any comments about their personality?[/QUOTE]Be careful what you wish for? You got the negatives and it is for a good reason. You can take those warning and play a game and go as far as you can and bail, consider yourself lucky if you can some can't. Visiting is one thing can be intoxicating but I was told once by a very experience and wise person " the more entrenched you become with the culture the more you will start to hate the place. It take a special person to visit and live here and there are many on this board without being entrenched.
What you see isn't what you will get now if you are a chance taker and like punishment I say go for it, you only live once!
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2131015]Finally made it back! Place is paradise! On my first night I went easy due to being tired from long case. Teamwork was exactly what occurred...
Seems windmill is so far my go to place. Is there anything better? Tonight I meet up with 2 fellow ISG members. Hoping to his the two different dolls. Dollhouse and living dolls? Still never been by skyfall yet either. Will try to swing by it also.[/QUOTE]I've been to Pattaya and Walking Street over 100 times or more and spend about 10 months out of the year in Thailand. The bars you named are viewed by most accounts as low end. The girls there are average to below average. The best bars are usually the nicest with furniture and fixtures, and of course better looking girls. So in no particular order Baccara, Palace, Sapphire, Sensations.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2130794]I'm still waiting for my first sick buffalo story. Does this really still happen?[/QUOTE]555 The only sick Buffalo are those with two legs.
Hi,
What is the average price in Pattaya for FS?
Is there anyone longer staying expat who would know some good spots in the center and north of the island? Living in Thalang and looking for some action.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=PhuketNew;2131060]
What is the average price in Pattaya for FS?[/QUOTE]For short time.
500-1000 Beach Road and Walking Street freelancers.
1000 at G clubs, Soi 6, beer bars, random 'legit' massage places around town.
2000 soapies and iBar.
2000-3000 gogo bars.
For Long Time add 50-100% to the above.
All of the above except iBar and Beach Road will have barfines varying from 200 to 2000 baht.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2131015]
Day 2. I visited 3 gogos. Windmill, Annabelle and Bliss.
Seems windmill is so far my go to place. Is there anything better? Tonight I meet up with 2 fellow ISG members. Hoping to his the two different dolls. Dollhouse and living dolls? Still never been by skyfall yet either. Will try to swing by it also.[/QUOTE]Except for Skyfall, none of the bars you have listed are known to have lookers. For looks, Infinity, Baccara, Sensations, Happy, Beach Club, Nui 2, Ginza, Peppermint, Fahrenheit, Sapphire, Imagine, What's up, etc. Etc. I think you get the picture.
Tonight was one of the worst Walking Street gogo bar hopping nights I have had in 2. 5 years. Not sure if it's a Japanese or Korean holiday but tons of girls were barfined and barfined early at that. By 10:30 pm I was going in and out of numerous bars (excluding my usual Baccara and Sensations) with very few girls. Saturdays are usually bad anyways but tonight was horrible. I did manage to meet a nice new girl at What's Up. 215 baht lady drinks for those counting their bahts.
I can't wait til low season.
some other notes from this week's visits:
Mandarin is scheduled to reopen January 29.
Marilyn Monroe agogo. I'll write a bit since I don't believe anyone else has written about it. This is a VERY large, long club. Awkward seating and stages. Need to have the girls rotate around the stages since it's difficult for customers to see all 3 stages. The sound system is likely the best I have heard in a Pattaya gogo bar. Music is great. Typical gogo music. Most girls weren't great but there are definitely 2 or 3 petite ones who were drink worthy. Anyone hot was busy. More of the traditional Thai look girls with no nose jobs. Customers appeared to be around 30 years younger on average than at Windmill. I will return. Lineup comparable to a bar like D Club. D Club seems a bit wilder though.
Best looking girl I saw tonight was at Lighthouse. Yes, I couldn't believe it either. She was busy so I couldn't talk to her. I think she may have worked at Bad Girls before.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131172]For short time.
500-1000 Beach Road and Walking Street freelancers.
1000 at G clubs, Soi 6, beer bars, random 'legit' massage places around town.
2000 soapies and iBar.
2000-3000 gogo bars.
For Long Time add 50-100% to the above.
All of the above except iBar and Beach Road will have barfines varying from 200 to 2000 baht.[/QUOTE]Banana boy, you dreaming? 500 bath for short haaahahaaa maybe 10 years ago. All price start from 1000 Bath, if you still yang and handsome.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131177]some other notes from this week's visits:
Mandarin is scheduled to reopen January 29.
Marilyn Monroe agogo. I'll write a bit since I don't believe anyone else has written about it. This is a VERY large, long club. Awkward s was at Lighthouse. Yes, I couldn't believe it either. She was busy so I couldn't talk to her. I think she may have worked at Bad Girls before.[/QUOTE]Mandarin is already open. I was there last night Saturday the 20th. Models are meh. Too many have stretch marks. Coyotes are average with a couple of retreads from Sapphire. I didn't see a lot Saturday either, so I ended grabbing a girl that approached I had some history with. She not that pretty or sexy, but it was getting late. Barfine 1000, 3000ST plus 200 tip. She let me go S&M on her in the room.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2131041]I've been to Pattaya and Walking Street over 100 times or more and spend about 10 months out of the year in Thailand. The bars you named are viewed by most accounts as low end. The girls there are average to below average. The best bars are usually the nicest with furniture and fixtures, and of course better looking girls. So in no particular order Baccara, Palace, Sapphire, Sensations.[/QUOTE]Low end? The end is in the rear of the beholder.
[QUOTE=JohnyJo;2131206]Banana boy, you dreaming? 500 bath for short haaahahaaa maybe 10 years ago. All price start from 1000 Bath, if you still yang and handsome.[/QUOTE]Not according to some posters here on ISG who can negotiate 500-700 baht. I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board. BTW, what is 'yang'?
JohnyJo, thanks for all your contributions to the Pattaya forum.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2131232]Mandarin is already open. I was there last night Saturday the 20th. [/QUOTE]I guess I read 29th on the flyer when it said 19th. I wasn't paying too much attention since it was about Mandarin. Surprised you checked it out.
Where does the girl in the photo work?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131176]Except for Skyfall, none of the bars you have listed are known to have lookers. For looks, Infinity, Baccara, Sensations, Happy, Beach Club, Nui 2, Ginza, Peppermint, Fahrenheit, Sapphire, Imagine, What's up, etc. Etc. I think you get the picture.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the guidance and tips. This being my 2nd trip I'm still learning. I ended up checking out 4 gogos in LK metro instead. I will report on them very soon.
[QUOTE=JohnyJo;2131206]Banana boy, you dreaming? 500 bath for short haaahahaaa maybe 10 years ago. All price start from 1000 Bath, if you still yang and handsome.[/QUOTE]I had 700 baht sessions off Beach Road just couple of months ago, and 500 baht earlier in 2017. Going rate there seems to be 700-1000 baht, unless it went up within the last 2-3 months (high season).
If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.
[QUOTE=LaoMan;2131241]Low end? The end is in the rear of the beholder.[/QUOTE]Statistically speaking, you are incorrect. When I hear crap like beauty is in the eye of the beholder and such, it's only true when applied to a single opinion or view point. The clubs I mention, generate the most money of all the Go Go bars on Walking Street. So common sense says most money usually means most customers, means better girls, less turnover, and nicer set up and fixtures. Of course there is always an exception here and there. If you don't think so, ask the girls themselves. Go ask a girl at Windmill, why isn't she working at Baccara? Ask a Baccara girl about Windmill and she will tell you "never heard of the place." And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture. It's the same like everywhere in the world. I've seen so many Westerners on there first trip to an Asian country and pay for sex with the most below average looking Asian hooker. I ask if they would have pay for sex with street crack working girls in the USA? They say "no way. " I say back. "Why are you doing that here in Thailand?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131301]Not according to some posters here on ISG who can negotiate 500-700 baht. I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board. BTW, what is 'yang'?
JohnyJo, thanks for all your contributions to the Pattaya forum.
I guess I read 29th on the flyer when it said 19th. I wasn't paying too much attention since it was about Mandarin. Surprised you checked it out.
Where does the girl in the photo work?[/QUOTE]Sometimes when a club reopens, they will grab some of the better girls from their sister clubs to attract customers in the beginning. So that's why I checked it out. It only took me 1 drink to figure out there was only 2-3 I would consider doing. As for the girl in the pic. I'm sure you can figure out where she works by me adding a couple of more pics of my other 2 favorite regulars from the same bar. You have been to this bar already and you are seasoned enough to pick up on the clues and the layout. This way it keeps me from revealing too much. She is the first girl in maid outfit.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2131329]If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.[/QUOTE]Had to reply. This is too good! Cracked me up.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2131329]I had 700 baht sessions off Beach Road just couple of months ago, and 500 baht earlier in 2017. Going rate there seems to be 700-1000 baht, unless it went up within the last 2-3 months (high season).
If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.[/QUOTE]Yes but I'm talking about normal girls, and good looking, not homeless from 'coconut bar' - beach road, there is 80% sick HIV: So good for you mr. 500' enjoy! .
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2131329]I had 700 baht sessions off Beach Road just couple of months ago, and 500 baht earlier in 2017. Going rate there seems to be 700-1000 baht, unless it went up within the last 2-3 months (high season).
If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.[/QUOTE]Right, ST for less than 1000 baht is still available in beach road and as usual beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Johny with his 7 post is the kind of guy who needs to use a thai sexy holiday agency for find a girl in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131301]Not according to some posters here on ISG who can negotiate 500-700 baht. I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board. BTW, what is 'yang'?
JohnyJo, thanks for all your contributions to the Pattaya forum.
I guess I read 29th on the flyer when it said 19th. I wasn't paying too much attention since it was about Mandarin. Surprised you checked it out.
Where does the girl in the photo work?[/QUOTE]3746-7= 3739, Yang = Young?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2131354]Sometimes when a club reopens, they will grab some of the better girls from their sister clubs to attract customers in the beginning. So that's why I checked it out. It only took me 1 drink to figure out there was only 2-3 I would consider doing. As for the girl in the pic. I'm sure you can figure out where she works by me adding a couple of more pics of my other 2 favorite regulars from the same bar. You have been to this bar already and you are seasoned enough to pick up on the clues and the layout. This way it keeps me from revealing too much. She is the first girl in maid outfit.[/QUOTE]Great pics. We have similar tastes.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2131354]Sometimes when a club reopens, they will grab some of the better girls from their sister clubs to attract customers in the beginning. So that's why I checked it out. It only took me 1 drink to figure out there was only 2-3 I would consider doing. [/QUOTE]Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2131354]As for the girl in the pic. I'm sure you can figure out where she works by me adding a couple of more pics of my other 2 favorite regulars from the same bar. You have been to this bar already and you are seasoned enough to pick up on the clues and the layout. This way it keeps me from revealing too much. She is the first girl in maid outfit.[/QUOTE]I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.
Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes. Lots of girls at 8 pm though. I chose the best one I could find and goofed around with her for an hour before rushing over to Walking Street.
Walked into Honey 2 for fun. Certainly better than Soi 6 level but nothing worth 2400(?) baht. Walked into Sabai Room. One pretty girl with short hair stood out #43. if she were a gogo girl or worked in any bar I would be buying her lady drinks. However, she's in a soapie! I contemplated getting a mechanical soapie and my smarter head decided not to.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131301] I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board. [/QUOTE]From what I've seen recently uploaded on YouTube the beach road talent looks about the same as what I've seen it before, a sampling of all walks of life including some decent lookers. The good lookers don't last very long, sometimes minutes of taking up their position on the street. I've seen some cute girls get dropped off by motobike 100 feet from me and before I could get over to talk to them they were picked up. I have found a few good ones off beach road but the majority were disappointing. I only do the beach road tour when I'm either coming or going from WS. Link to a beach road video below where the guy really focuses on only getting the working girls in his video, he must edit out tons of footage to get so many good up close shots of the girls. Girl at 29 seconds into the video in the grey top looks pretty good, same with the girl at 5:44 in the black shorts. 5:54 in the background on the left should have been zoomed in on over the chubby one. Same guy has also shot some footage of the freelancers in Bangkok.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzdZ0L2YD9c[/URL]
I have been doing some research on which Russian Clubs to avoid on WS.
XO Club, Galaxy, Moulin Rouge.
Am I missing more?
Adding to that, are there any on LK Metro and Soi 6 which I need to avoid as well?
Appreciate the help.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131585]Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.
I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.
Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes..[/QUOTE]Last night, I was at the? Bar downstairs also. It's been awhile since I've gone. I have some history with a few of the models there, so I avoid that place because they will leech on me and scare off new girls. The club looked lacking in girls. Back in the days, both stages were full of coyote dancers with many more on the ledges. Now it's only 1 stage with a couple of models on the on the other stage. Drink prices are 185 minimum for anything. No happy hour pricing or anything. Lady drinks are expensive as well. Around 9:30 I ended up pulling a girl off stage. Don't really remember her number, she was thin, had braces, 28 years old but looked 21, nice small but round ass, and had a Thai writing tattoo on right shoulder. She dances with energy. Definitely the best body IMHO in the bar. She didn't want to barfine but I just told her ST only, and mamasan and wait staff told her I was a very very good customer for the bar. She told me to only tell them that we were going to another GoGo bar to drink. Guess she didn't want people knowing. Anyways I bought her 5 drinks at one time and paid the 1000 barfine. This was about 10:40 ish? So at least management reduced barfine prices. Used to be 1500 until after midnight for coyotes. In bed she was lame. Very tight, but quite a screamer and complainer. She kept trying to crawl off the bed and contorted her body so that she didn't receive full penetration. I had to beg for a blow job that she did for 30 seconds. After about 30 minutes, I asked her to finish me with a handjob. She laid there for 5 minutes complaining to be in pain before she started. Only decent thing was that she was new talent, hot, and I was able to pay with a credit card. Going to try again tonight with another one from same bar. I like bars that you can pay with cards.
As for the short hair girl at Sabai Room. She has braces right? If so. I think her actual number is 48. Sits towards right side? Once I saw her stand up and go to the make up room. Her ass left me questioning about her body. Face is nice though. Maybe I'll dive in anyways and report back. It's my last day / night here before I go play in Vietnam. I'll be back in Thailand in a week.
I am heading to Pattaya for 5 days in a little over a month from now. I'll be there the first week of March. This will be my 4th trip to Thailand and 2nd trip to Pattaya but sadly my last visit to Pattaya was back in 2006. I guess better late getting back than never. My last visit was alright but I know it could have been a lot better so my intentions this time is to make it better than the last by tenfold. I've been RTFF for ages it seems like; I had been RTFF even before my 2006 trip (first year visiting Thailand) to Bangkok and Pattaya by at least several years. Being a low-key, flying under the radar kind of guy I have been just a lurker on these boards but I have to say I have enjoyed the banter and varying points of view expressed by the members on here. I figured I would make my intro and get in on some of the banter and points of view that go on so I can quit lurking and be a contributor.
I am scheduled to arrive at BKK around noon on Friday so my plans are to hop the bus from the airport to Pattaya, kick back and enjoy the ride into town. I could have scheduled a car or take a taxi but there's something about just taking buses, trains, etc. When in foreign countries that I just like doing. I have 5 nights booked at LK Metro Hotel. I found a good deal for about $50 bucks a night with breakfast (important to me) and jumped on it since it's close to Areca Lodge, where I stayed before, and thus gives me a good point of reference from my visit eons ago. In doing my research, I also see that it's close to LK Metro and I really want to check this area out as I remember walking through that L-shaped stretch back in 2006 when the area was in pre-infancy. I remember there was a handful of what looked like massage joints and absolutely no gogos. There was nobody walking through there either, it looked pretty drab. I am really excited to see what it is like now, up close and personal, and not what I see when I stroll through there on Google Earth.
As for my 5 nights in Pattaya, I plan on also hitting up the infamous Soi 6, Walking Street, BR, and the Soi's in between. It was Halloween night 2006 when I was there and I made one pass straight down Walking Street, not going into any bars and ended up at some pier, or something like that, down at the very end. I had planned on going back up and checking out some gogos but ended up chatting up this freelancer at the pier and next thing I know we are on a baht bus and heading back to Areca Lodge. We ended up staying the remainder of the night at my room doing the deed. So, that was the extent of my Walking Street experience. This time my game plan is to take in Walking Street in all its glory. I hope the plans don't get changed this time but I have allotted myself more time in Pattaya this time.
I definitely plan on checking out 808 club, Flexx club, and Insomnia. I am a Hip-Hop head so 808 and Flexx sound like some clubs I will like and put me in the mood of being in the Hip Hop clubs I like and have frequented here in the States. I don't know the format of Insomnia but as long as it's Hip-Hop, EDM, or an EDM / Hip Hop mix as they like to do these days, then I am in my element. I know I will like that aspect of going on the hunt in those clubs as, in my mind, it still will be easier sealing the deal with the freelancers there than it is working the clubs here in the States. Cheaper too.
I don't know how I will feel about Agogos but I am going to give them a try. I have spent a lot of time over the years going to the hardcore, raunchy Strip clubs that you find in the Southern parts of the USA so I don't know how much the Agogo girls here will impress me but you never know until you give them a try. In RTFF and doing research, it looks like Windmill is a place I will definitely stop into. I also see the same owners have Sugarbaby and Anabelle's (I think that's the name) so they may be worth a visit too. Sapphire sounds like another place worth at least taking a peek into. Any other suggestions will be appreciated. I like the kind of places where the girls are friendly and will let your hands roam all over (think Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico for those that have been). I have set aside $1000 USD as my straight ST / LT, barfine, LD, tip budget so I am hoping that will allow me to enjoy myself thoroughly. If needed, I have another $500 reserve to that budget but I am hoping I don't get that carried away. A man has to have control, ya know. Then again, I would not have that reserve if I didn't think there was a possibility of dipping into it. We shall see.
I definitely respect and believe in not upsetting the pricing structure of any Mongering destination I visit but I don't like being a Cheap Charlie either. It's a delicate balance in my opinion. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you have to blow money on it and do it. I'm not going to pay Lexus prices for a Toyota even if they are owned by the same manufacturer and I have the money. In RTFF I think I have a good grasp of the standard pricing at the various venues where action is to be had.
I've been RTFF for the last few weeks to give myself some remedial education on the Ins and Outs of visiting Pattaya but I am sure I will still have questions. I started RTFF at December 2016 and figured I would work my way up to present day so that should give me a good solid knowledge base.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2131585]Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.
I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.
Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes. Lots of girls at 8 pm though. I chose the best one I could find and goofed around with her for an hour before rushing over to Walking Street.
Walked into Honey 2 for fun. Certainly better than Soi 6 level but nothing worth 2400(?) baht. Walked into Sabai Room. One pretty girl with short hair stood out #43. if she were a gogo girl or worked in any bar I would be buying her lady drinks. However, she's in a soapie! I contemplated getting a mechanical soapie and my smarter head decided not to.[/QUOTE]I value your reports Banana Boi. Look like the talent after the holidays is very limited. I was planning my trip next month and worried now that it will be hunt for good girls!
[QUOTE=Breadman;2131593]From what I've seen recently uploaded on YouTube the beach road talent looks about the same as what I've seen it before, a sampling of all walks of life including some decent lookers. The good lookers don't last very long, sometimes minutes of taking up their position on the street. I've seen some cute girls get dropped off by motobike 100 feet from me and before I could get over to talk to them they were picked up. I have found a few good ones off beach road but the majority were disappointing. I only do the beach road tour when I'm either coming or going from WS. Link to a beach road video below where the guy really focuses on only getting the working girls in his video, he must edit out tons of footage to get so many good up close shots of the girls. Girl at 29 seconds into the video in the grey top looks pretty good, same with the girl at 5:44 in the black shorts. 5:54 in the background on the left should have been zoomed in on over the chubby one. Same guy has also shot some footage of the freelancers in Bangkok.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzdZ0L2YD9c[/URL][/QUOTE]I am an experienced monger who has been with many, many hookers and I would not touch a single hooker from beach road no matter if she looked like some really attractive celebrity that you like. There are ample ladies around Pattaya who do not carry the same risks. If any decent young or old chaps are reading this. Save yourself the potential disaster and get girls from reputable venues. It is only a few bucks, which is nothing in the scheme of things.
[QUOTE=JohnyJo;2131419]Yes but I'm talking about normal girls, and good looking, not homeless from 'coconut bar' - beach road, there is 80% sick HIV: So good for you mr. 500' enjoy! .[/QUOTE]Pattaya attracts some real delusional weirdos. I consider myself a semi-professional degenerate but some of the people around Pattaya really take the first place for lack of personal awareness. I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere. I mean really, sending punters to beach road on a forum which is supposed to give mongering advice is just plain wrong.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2131330]Statistically speaking, you are incorrect. When I hear crap like beauty is in the eye of the beholder and such, it's only true when applied to a single opinion or view point. The clubs I mention, generate the most money of all the Go Go bars on Walking Street. So common sense says most money usually means most customers, means better girls, less turnover, and nicer set up and fixtures. Of course there is always an exception here and there. If you don't think so, ask the girls themselves. Go ask a girl at Windmill, why isn't she working at Baccara? Ask a Baccara girl about Windmill and she will tell you "never heard of the place." And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture. It's the same like everywhere in the world. I've seen so many Westerners on there first trip to an Asian country and pay for sex with the most below average looking Asian hooker. I ask if they would have pay for sex with street crack working girls in the USA? They say "no way. " I say back. "Why are you doing that here in Thailand?[/QUOTE]When in a relationship you can consider your partner to be the most attractive person in the world and you can get to the point where you won't be interested in women who are objectively more attractive.
With hookers, its objective. To a degree also subjective around your preference for what kind of attractive lady. When I first went to Oase, I found nearly all the girls attractive but I picked ladies with darker features and olive skin, while others would prefer blondes. That it is more around windmill vs baccara or red head vs blonde. I think most of the girls on WS are fairly consistent. Some are just preferred by Asian customers because they're marginally more attractive. I like the little brown skinned ladies. Others don't. Would I go to Baccara if I was Asian enough? Probably, their girls are a little bit better. Us white people are definitely tier 2 in pattaya. Koreans and Japanese are much more sex crazy and willing to spend big.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2131820]I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I think you just lost all credibility with the board with that statement. You and JohnyJo are obviously not aware of the dynamics of the chicks on Beach Road.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw]And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture.[/QUOTE]Perhaps. But I can't say I have observed Asian men escorting the best looking Thai bargirls or Freelancers by any world standard around either Pattaya or Bangkok. Not even on par with the pics of girls self-identified Asians here have posted as prime examples of their gamesmanship. So I would say judging who would take the most impressive photo is a very different challenge than judging who would be the best partner in bed tonight. Just like it is for Westerners.
And the fact that I see more Asian men choosing blatantly obvious Ladyboys to take to their room than any other ethnic group draws into serious question their standards for assessing female beauty of any race anyway.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2131898]Perhaps. But I can't say I have observed Asian men escorting the best looking Thai bargirls or Freelancers by any world standard around either Pattaya or Bangkok. Not even on par with the pics of girls self-identified Asians here have posted as prime examples of their gamesmanship. So I would say judging who would take the most impressive photo is a very different challenge than judging who would be the best partner in bed tonight. Just like it is for Westerners.
And the fact that I see more Asian men choosing blatantly obvious Ladyboys to take to their room than any other ethnic group draws into serious question their standards for assessing female beauty of any race anyway.[/QUOTE]Must agree with you here Mr Tooms. Recently, in Bangkok, I have seen non-Thai Asian dudes, mainly Japanese and Koreans, with gals I would not give a second look. Who do I see the best looking Thai gals with? That's easy, Thai men who obviously have money. And as far as the Pattaya GoGos are concerned, I had the occasion to be in Sensations a few weeks ago. Jeez, never seen such bad surgery and the number of gals who were overweight was shocking. Some of the dancers were wearing panty hose FFS!
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2131820]Pattaya attracts some real delusional weirdos. I consider myself a semi-professional degenerate but some of the people around Pattaya really take the first place for lack of personal awareness. I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere. I mean really, sending punters to beach road on a forum which is supposed to give mongering advice is just plain wrong.[/QUOTE]Nobody will pay you anything. It will be the other way around. You'll do the paying, if you even had 10 Grand to pay, they might not accept it from a self described degenerate. Besides, we're not interested in your negative rants.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2131820] If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV.[/QUOTE]This is the biggest BS I read on this forum, admin should delete your post.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2131819]I am an experienced monger who has been with many, many hookers [/QUOTE]Experienced monger? You? LOL your posts say the opposite.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2131886]I think you just lost all credibility with the board with that statement. [/QUOTE] He has already lost its credibility a long time ago with his plaintive posts
[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2131714]I have been doing some research on which Russian Clubs to avoid on WS.
XO Club, Galaxy, Moulin Rouge.
Am I missing more?
Adding to that, are there any on LK Metro and Soi 6 which I need to avoid as well?
Appreciate the help.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Read my FR in the thread Foreign Sex Workers in Thailand and do yourself a huge favor. Avoid them like the plague.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2131928]This is the biggest BS I read on this forum, admin should delete your post.
Experienced monger? You? LOL your posts say the opposite.
He has already lost its credibility a long time ago with his plaintive posts[/QUOTE]All credible reviews give the same advice; it's not worth the risk. Giving people advice to go there is wrong. Just wrong.
Thailand is not as cheap as it once was but it is still cheap. Time people accepted 500 to 700ST doesn't exist in the way it may have in the past. But you can get 1000ST on Soi 6 where at least the girls are employed by the bar.
This just in new information: Top Pattaya girls do not want to do 3-4 ST and between 3-5k and between 5 and 7 k for LT rates with a handsome, young Korean (who have likely recently done military service and are fit as) or Japanese man and make potentially 20k in one night. They'd rather 500-700 baht (or 1/10) of the price to sleep with old American men by standing around on beach road.
Face it, in the modern world, the money is in Japan and Korea. That's where the girls go.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132051]This just in new information: Top Pattaya girls do not want to do 3-4 ST and between 3-5k and between 5 and 7 k for LT rates with a handsome, young Korean (who have likely recently done military service and are fit as) or Japanese man and make potentially 20k in one night. They'd rather 500-700 baht (or 1/10) of the price to sleep with old American men by standing around on beach road.
Face it, in the modern world, the money is in Japan and Korea. That's where the girls go.[/QUOTE]So humor me.
Why do the high end soapies have a different (cheaper) rate card for japs / Koreans?
If they are happy to willingly pay higher rates for the same girl and Service, wouldn't the establishments charge them more without worrying about antagonizing them?
The money is in the Far East?
To say that all japs / Koreans are rich and splurge is similar to saying all Americans are rich or all Indians are poor. It's just a stupid statement.
In my previous life I sold homes to all races which included a whole bunch of Koreans and guess what, they are as demanding if not more than a typical westerner when it comes to money and goods.
The only observation I made is. Tourists who come for a week or less tend to spend a bit more and enjoy the time rather than nickel and dime at every place. To say that a certain race pays more for less is not a compliment but an insult IMHO.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2132133]So humor me.
Why do the high end soapies have a different (cheaper) rate card for japs / Koreans?[/QUOTE]I was about to ask the same question. How is everyone so privy to what the Japanese and Korean mongers pay chicks? For all we know they could be paying half as much as you.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2132133]So humor me.
Why do the high end soapies have a different (cheaper) rate card for japs / Koreans?
If they are happy to willingly pay higher rates for the same girl and Service, wouldn't the establishments charge them more without worrying about antagonizing them?
The money is in the Far East?
To say that all japs / Koreans are rich and splurge is similar to saying all Americans are rich or all Indians are poor. It's just a stupid statement.
In my previous life I sold homes to all races which included a whole bunch of Koreans and guess what, they are as demanding if not more than a typical westerner when it comes to money and goods.
The only observation I made is. Tourists who come for a week or less tend to spend a bit more and enjoy the time rather than nickel and dime at every place. To say that a certain race pays more for less is not a compliment but an insult IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Because of racism against us in Japan and Korea.
Asians are superior as customers in Thailand. They have more money than the average westerner and they stay at the best hotels and can afford the best hookers. Girls don't want to argue with some idiot American who thinks 1997 prices should still apply. They are there to make a profit and make the most profit with Asian customers. It pisses me off; as this low balling is making girls think twice about westerners.
How far this goes is anyone's guess. I won't pay much more than 7000 for LT and of it goes to 10 I won't go around saying the best girls are on beach road I'll say they are still in the GoGos but I won't pay what's being asked because its too much for me personally for what's on offer.
I am against members of this forum making out that the Koreans and Japanese are stupid and over paying for girls. They are just paying the market rate for quality. There is a lot of hidden racism against the Thai on here; implying that because a girl is thai then she can't be worth more than 1 k which is BS.
It's almost 2020. The world changed. Prices went up. Enjoy it or move; but don't make out like the best girls are 700 baht on beach road. What is on beach road are girls who can't work in establishments; ask yourself why? She is either a thief, has HIV or is too ugly for a bar. If she was a good looking part time freelancer she would be at ibar, with all the other lookers, but I don't recommend that either and those girls usually charge more than 1 k.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2132133]The only observation I made is. Tourists who come for a week or less tend to spend a bit more and enjoy the time rather than nickel and dime at every place. To say that a certain race pays more for less is not a compliment but an insult IMHO.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100%. These are who I call the Weekend Millionaires. When I was just a tourist I had no problem spending 10,000+ baht per day since I knew it was only going to be for a week or 2. Now that I live here I work hard to keep my daily expenses a fraction of that amount. It can easily get out of hand. Only a handful of Japanese / Korean spend a ton of money throwing ping pong balls and 20 baht bills while sitting with 4 girls and buying all wait staff drinks. These are the guys who are noticeable. Many just sit there and do not buy lady drinks or sit with 1 girl like everyone else. OTH, I know Indian guys who would put us all to shame with the amount of lady drinks they buy girls.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2131898]Perhaps. But I can't say I have observed Asian men escorting the best looking Thai bargirls or Freelancers by any world standard around either Pattaya or Bangkok. [/QUOTE]I'm sure you have observed enough over the years to realize that the majority of Asian men and Farang are opposite ends of the spectrum as to what a good looking Thai girl looks like. Asian men want girls who look like Kpop, Jpop, or JAV models ie. Those with nose jobs and cutesy like at Baccara. They aren't easy to find outside a gogo bar or a Thai bar off the beaten track imo. Farang prefer the traditional Thai look like at Windmill, Sapphire, iBar, and the LK Metro bars. Unfortunately, I have the tastes of Japanese / Korean. Wish it were different.
[QUOTE=Nite Owl;2131752]As for my 5 nights in Pattaya, I plan on also hitting up the infamous Soi 6, Walking Street, BR, and the Soi's in between. It was Halloween night 2006 when I was there and I made one pass straight down Walking Street, not going into any bars and ended up at some pier, or something like that, down at the very end. I had planned on going back up and checking out some gogos but ended up chatting up this freelancer at the pier and next thing I know we are on a baht bus and heading back to Areca Lodge. We ended up staying the remainder of the night at my room doing the deed. So, that was the extent of my Walking Street experience. This time my game plan is to take in Walking Street in all its glory. I hope the plans don't get changed this time but I have allotted myself more time in Pattaya this time.
I definitely plan on checking out 808 club, Flexx club, and Insomnia. I am a Hip-Hop head so 808 and Flexx sound like some clubs I will like and put me in the mood of being in the Hip Hop clubs I like and have frequented here in the States. I don't know the format of Insomnia but as long as it's Hip-Hop, EDM, or an EDM / Hip Hop mix as they like to do these days, then I am in my element. I know I will like that aspect of going on the hunt in those clubs as, in my mind, it still will be easier sealing the deal with the freelancers there than it is working the clubs here in the States. Cheaper too.
I don't know how I will feel about Agogos but I am going to give them a try. I have spent a lot of time over the years going to the hardcore, raunchy Strip clubs that you find in the Southern parts of the USA so I don't know how much the Agogo girls here will impress me but you never know until you give them a try. In RTFF and doing research, it looks like Windmill is a place I will definitely stop into. I also see the same owners have Sugarbaby and Anabelle's (I think that's the name) so they may be worth a visit too. Sapphire sounds like another place worth at least taking a peek into. Any other suggestions will be appreciated. I like the kind of places where the girls are friendly and will let your hands roam all over (think Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico for those that have been). I have set aside $1000 USD as my straight ST / LT, barfine, LD, tip budget so I am hoping that will allow me to enjoy myself thoroughly. If needed, I have another $500 reserve to that budget but I am hoping I don't get that carried away. A man has to have control, ya know. Then again, I would not have that reserve if I didn't think there was a possibility of dipping into it. We shall see.[/QUOTE]
Glad to see you spent time RTFF. It will make your trip much more enjoyable but, as you already figured out on your first trip to Pattaya, things never go according to plan in Thailand!
LK Metropole is literally steps to LK Metro. There is a short cut from the hotel lot into LK Metro. you don't have to walk out to Soi Diana.
Your budget of $200 USD per night for hobbying only is a generous one and should be sufficient unless you plan on doing 3 or 4 girls per day. Even so, you are still well within budget for 3 or 4 Soi 6 girls per day.
According to some (many) on here the quality has gone to the sh1tter since 2006. Glad you're coming here with a positive attitude instead of some on this board living in the past.
As for gogo bars, you don't need to restrict your bars to the likes of Windmill, Sugar Babies, etc. for hands on action. They are not known to have very good looking girls. It's standard for hands on action in any bar except for maybe Sensations and to some extent Happy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2132166]I was about to ask the same question. How is everyone so privy to what the Japanese and Korean mongers pay chicks? For all we know they could be paying half as much as you.[/QUOTE]Good point Mr. ENT. As a matter of fact I know for sure that they only pay half as much. As you!
Hahaha. LOL. Hey, don't kill the messenger bro! Take it easy. Take it easy now.
I think I'm the only guy with the courage (I didn't say balls) to bust your chops. Happy travels.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2132188]I agree with this 100%. These are who I call the Weekend Millionaires. When I was just a tourist I had no problem spending 10,000+ baht per day since I knew it was only going to be for a week or 2. Now that I live here I work hard to keep my daily expenses a fraction of that amount. It can easily get out of hand. Only a handful of Japanese / Korean spend a ton of money throwing ping pong balls and 20 baht bills while sitting with 4 girls and buying all wait staff drinks. These are the guys who are noticeable. Many just sit there and do not buy lady drinks or sit with 1 girl like everyone else. OTH, I know Indian guys who would put us all to shame with the amount of lady drinks they buy girls.[/QUOTE]I have seen in Indian clubs, guys throwing bundles of THB on dancing girls on the stage in a matter of seconds and this is some moolah TBH and for what? Girls who, to my knowledge, are off the table anyways. I think it all comes down to how well heeled you are along with the duration of your stay and the type of experience / memories you are trying to make. A guy with a budget of 100K THB spread over a period of a week would have spending pattern that would appear extravagant, to the point of being vulgar, to a guy with the same budget to last him for a couple of months. Also, it is about priorities. There are many guys out there who are quite well off but would not throw away serious scratch just to prove a point or merely to be a cynosure of all watching. I have seen people in clubs paying 1 k THB to have their picture flashed on the screen for just a couple of minutes, which to a hobbyist, would be quite ridiculous as it is not for services rendered. This is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. Enjoy!
Every year, particularly in recent years, more guys are flocking to Pattaya thinking this is where there is mongering arbitrage. Ready to be picked or found. Unfortunately, nowadays many of the newcomers come here and discover that - No - things are not so easy in this marketplace.
The global economy, cheaper air fares, and supply of Hotel rooms, apartments etc brings more guys here for 5 days or less for a cost of maybe $700 for air fare and hotel / incidentals. Maybe these guys budget say another $500 for drinks and girls.
This very same global economy and the internet options have reduced the supply of quality girls in Pattaya.
Unfortunately for them girls under 25 who are 6. 5 and above at a go go means drinks, bar fine and a ST go go girl 6. 5-7. 5 is 1,000 (drinks), 1000-1500 bar fine and 4,000 for the girl. LT total cost is 8-9 K.
After 3 days, these guys have only their day 4 and 5 left and a total sunk cost of close to $800-$1000 for their entire trip. So, on day 4 and 5 most of these guys have their backs against the wall. Pay up or go home with a 5 or under or over 35 yo from a beer bar for a total cost of 3. 5 k.
What does this MEAN IN TERMS OF NUMBERS?
If the 5 day average trip for guys coming here is correct then on any given day about 40 PERCENT of ALL the guys visiting here are on their day 4 or 5 with 48 hours or less behore they have to leave.
So, with 40 pc of visiting guys with their backs against the wall on a given day and the total sunk cost of their trip (due to demand being much greater than supply) go go prices are increasing rapidly.
Guys are flocking to the discos but many of these guys who seem confident in a go go bar don't seem to have the courage to propose to a girl. Or they don’t have any game . They just clam up. And both the quantity and quality of girls at the discos are also way down. So, lots of frustrated guys in general and on this board. Things are definitely a lot more challenging folks.
The prices are still a pittance. Europeans and Americans have experienced savage wage depression and economic inequality so are now not so rich as they once were. While many outside of the USA and Europe have seen fabulous increases in disposable income and they want to shove it in some pussy.
The one thing I agree on is competition for girls can get tough. That rightly leads to price increases.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2132166]I was about to ask the same question. How is everyone so privy to what the Japanese and Korean mongers pay chicks? For all we know they could be paying half as much as you.[/QUOTE]Mr. E.
I'll humor him? For those guys who always think they are part of the big dick department with the 3-3-3 thinking? Is that a good enough reason they should get the pay less menu?
How's it coming along? Was trying to find an opening date, did find an article about the concern of the mall owners of the increase in online buying in Thailand. Guess amazon is cutting into everybody's profit.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132271]The prices are still a pittance. Europeans and Americans have experienced savage wage depression and economic inequality so are now not so rich as they once were. While many outside of the USA and Europe have seen fabulous increases in disposable income and they want to shove it in some pussy.
The one thing I agree on is competition for girls can get tough. That rightly leads to price increases.[/QUOTE]You have got to be one of the most uninformed people wrt to American's net worth.
1. Most Americans have had huge gains on their primary home since real estate prices have gone up quite a bit since 2009. People on the east coast and west coast have seen their home prices double or triple. Heck even in many Texas cities they have doubled during that time.
2. During the same period, stock prices have also more than doubled even considering or after returning to prior highs from before the financial crisis of 2008. The vast majority of Americans have significant assets in their 401 K.
Those making minimum wage or say even $50 k per year are NOT the type of Americans who even have a passport, let alone come to Thailand.
Asians tend to spend more when they drink and smoke, IMO, because it's also a socially liberating venue for them.
Asians do not have Mexico, Central America or South America close to them. So, they mostly prefer to stay in Asia whereas Americans are coming here and also in the other geographic regions.
Finally, there are some people who have $ but keep it quiet and are happy to see others part with their money and quietly smile on the inside knowing they could easily spend two or three times more than many of the Asians in Pattaya, and not care,! But are simply not going to do that here.
So, I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Just like the Russians who come to Pattaya are not the rich Russians, or even upper middle class Russians. I see very very few upper middle class Americans here. Mostly young guys with limited $ and net worth. A very large number of the Americans I know can drop $25 K in a month but simply are not going to. Why? Because over 95 pc of the girls in Pattaya simply are not in that class.
Even today there are more millionaires in the US than in Japan, Korea , China, India or Europe. That’s a fact.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132187]It's almost 2020. The world changed. Prices went up. Enjoy it or move; but don't make out like the best girls are 700 baht on beach road. What is on beach road are girls who can't work in establishments; ask yourself why? She is either a thief, has HIV or is too ugly for a bar. If she was a good looking part time freelancer she would be at ibar, with all the other lookers, but I don't recommend that either and those girls usually charge more than 1 k.[/QUOTE]Prices of what have gone up? My rent is still the same 4500 baht that it was 8 years ago. Baht bus still 10 baht. Fruit on the street still 10 baht.
As for FL on Beach Rd, a lot of them have normal jobs in the day and kids at home so they are not trying to work in a gogo bar or be in a party scene. Hell, most of the guys in this forum don't even like going to iBar, but you expect her to have a physical or medical defect if a BR FL doesn't want to go? Not every woman in Pattaya was sent there from across the country by their families. Some actually do live in Pattaya with their families and can not be out partying at all hours. So they go out to get the quick money and take their asses back home.
And as on FL that I used to deal with told me, if someone would give me 10K baht/month I could keep my ass home and not have to do this anymore. That is why giving chicks 5000 baht and shit like that seems ridiculous to me.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132271]
The one thing I agree on is competition for girls can get tough. That rightly leads to price increases.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132187]Because of racism against us in Japan and Korea.
Asians are superior as customers in Thailand. They have more money than the average westerner and they stay at the best hotels and can afford the best hookers. Girls don't want to argue with some idiot American who thinks 1997 prices should still apply. They are there to make a profit and make the most profit with Asian customers. It pisses me off; as this low balling is making girls think twice about westerners.
How far this goes is anyone's guess. I won't pay much more than 7000 for LT and of it goes to 10 I won't go around saying the best girls are on beach road I'll say they are still in the GoGos but I won't pay what's being asked because its too much for me personally for what's on offer.
I am against members of this forum making out that the Koreans and Japanese are stupid and over paying for girls. They are just paying the market rate for quality. There is a lot of hidden racism against the Thai on here; implying that because a girl is thai then she can't be worth more than 1 k which is BS.
It's almost 2020. The world changed. Prices went up. Enjoy it or move; but don't make out like the best girls are 700 baht on beach road. What is on beach road are girls who can't work in establishments; ask yourself why? She is either a thief, has HIV or is too ugly for a bar. If she was a good looking part time freelancer she would be at ibar, with all the other lookers, but I don't recommend that either and those girls usually charge more than 1 k.[/QUOTE]
I actually lost a billion brain cells reading this.....
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132187]Enjoy it or move; but don't make out like the best girls are 700 baht on beach road. [/QUOTE]I really don't know if you are just a troll or you don't understand the concept, but is not so difficult to understand. Nobody wrote that the best girls are on BR.
The points are:
- is this possible to have ST in Pattaya for less than 1000 baht? Yes.
- is safe to pick up girls on BR? Yes.
- All girls in BR are sick? No.
- All girls in BR are thief? No.
Are you sure that all gogo girls or bar girls or freelancers in Ibar don't have any STD or HIV? You can't be sure!
Are you sure that a girl who stay on BR at 10pm not go to WS disco after midnight? No, you can't be sure.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2132187]
What is on beach road are girls who can't work in establishments; ask yourself why? She is either a thief, has HIV [/QUOTE]Again, stop to write these fucking BS! Maybe they dont want work in establishments. Your accusations are simply false you can't generalize, you do not know what you're talking about.
I'm a bit vary on breaking into the heated discussion here, but I just wanted to share an experience with couple of establishments in Pattaya. .
The first one is (in-) famous Devils Den. I actually had quite low expectations as a lot of reviews I've read were not that great, but I had time to kill before my flight, I already checked out of the hotel and I didn't want to bother with bars and ST rooms, so went to DD.
It actually exceeded my (low) expectations! I've found the papasan guy to be really helpful and courteous, he explained everything well and he was also clear there is no pressure to select the girls if I don't like any. I ended up picking Vicky and Bee who seemed to be the best options in the lineup. The looks are probably on the level of BKK PSE oilies.
The room was a bit of let down, just a cramped room with a double bed, even the swing thing wasn't there. But its ok, doesn't really matter but I think the place would really benefit from redecorating the room in more of the sexy devil style, doesn't cost much and would make a difference to the mood.
The process I found overall to be really nice. Surprisingly nice actually. Vicky spoke pretty decent English (Bee didn't), and overall Vicky was a good choice with good BJ skills and better looks once the clothes were off (Bee wasn't). I wouldn't hesitate to do an outcall with Vicky. The girls would do pretty much whatever you want, they can fuck each other, they can fuck you, you can do a trio, whatever. You need to guide them though. With Vicky speaking decent English it was easy to tell the girls what I wanted. They also were restless, in just over an hour they made me cum 3 times and were eager to go for round 4. The only downside was them chatting to each other in Thai all the time which I don't understand. Not that I care much, but its somehow a bit uncomfortable. Overall, its not cheap, but I felt I got value for my money but I also think I was lucky with the choice of girls, as I've also heard some really mediocre experiences.
Now, another quick review is of the Kittens BJ bar in Soi Post Office. That was probably the worst BJ I have ever had, and overall the worst value of P4 P experience I've had (only the K-Pressure in HK could compete with that). BJ costs 850 thb and it was just mediocre. And the whole place is bad.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2132441]Prices of what have gone up? My rent is still the same 4500 baht that it was 8 years ago. Baht bus still 10 baht. Fruit on the street still 10 baht.
As for FL on Beach Rd, a lot of them have normal jobs in the day and kids at home so they are not trying to work in a gogo bar or be in a party scene. Hell, most of the guys in this forum don't even like going to iBar, but you expect her to have a physical or medical defect if a BR FL doesn't want to go? Not every woman in Pattaya was sent there from across the country by their families. Some actually do live in Pattaya with their families and can not be out partying at all hours. So they go out to get the quick money and take their asses back home.
And as on FL that I used to deal with told me, if someone would give me 10K baht/month I could keep my ass home and not have to do this anymore. That is why giving chicks 5000 baht and shit like that seems ridiculous to me.[/QUOTE]Mr. E.
A few months back I responded to some of the general nonsense that is being preached. Now as you know I'm no brain surgeon and we all post here based on our experience and generalized but reading his post it is just over the top. Thereafter he went away most likely feeling red face even on the Internet now he is back and that is his right.
As noted, we all generalize but his experiences seem to go down as pure " fact " there is no left or right, stubborn and no compromise. Just because it happen to him or he heard it therefore it is now fact. Now you know I'm Asian, got no game never had, not a handsome man and rather pay since I can't stay up late and like the Go Go so paying is my preferred method but never had any Go Go kick out the numbers as being fact. I sense from his writing the reason he is getting those numbers is a way so they don't have to go?
[QUOTE=Dart13;2132552]I'm a bit vary on breaking into the heated discussion here, but I just wanted to share an experience with couple of establishments in Pattaya. .
The first one is (in-) famous Devils Den. I actually had quite low expectations as a lot of reviews I've read were not that great, but I had time to kill before my flight, I already checked out of the hotel and I didn't want to bother with bars and ST rooms, so went to DD.
It actually exceeded my (low) expectations! I've found the papasan guy to be really helpful and courteous, he explained everything well and he was also clear there is no pressure to select the girls if I don't like any. I ended up picking Vicky and Bee who seemed to be the best options in the lineup. The looks are probably on the level of BKK PSE oilies.
The room was a bit of let down, just a cramped room with a double bed, even the swing thing wasn't there. But its ok, doesn't really matter but I think the place would really benefit from redecorating the room in more of the sexy devil style, doesn't cost much and would make a difference to the mood.
The process I found overall to be really nice. Surprisingly nice actually. Vicky spoke pretty decent English (Bee didn't), and overall Vicky was a good choice with good BJ skills and better looks once the clothes were off (Bee wasn't). I wouldn't hesitate to do an outcall with Vicky. The girls would do pretty much whatever you want, they can fuck each other, they can fuck you, you can do a trio, whatever. You need to guide them though. With Vicky speaking decent English it was easy to tell the girls what I wanted. They also were restless, in just over an hour they made me cum 3 times and were eager to go for round 4. The only downside was them chatting to each other in Thai all the time which I don't understand. Not that I care much, but its somehow a bit uncomfortable. Overall, its not cheap, but I felt I got value for my money but I also think I was lucky with the choice of girls, as I've also heard some really mediocre experiences.
Now, another quick review is of the Kittens BJ bar in Soi Post Office. That was probably the worst BJ I have ever had, and overall the worst value of P4 P experience I've had (only the K-Pressure in HK could compete with that). BJ costs 850 thb and it was just mediocre. And the whole place is bad.[/QUOTE]I am happy you posted this. I am going to be in Pattaya in 10 days time and devils Den is on my to do list. I am planning on a 2 hour session the cost from their website being 4800. I think Vicky was on my preferred list due to the fact that she does anal. Did you pick both girls or pick one and allow her to choose the other? It's not cheap but to experience a threesome with PSE it is ok but to justify the cost I know that for the same amount of money I can't get a decent P4 P where I live for 1 hour so 2 girls for 2 hours seems like a bargain. Can you recommend a good blow job bar near kittens because that will be my first stop when I land to clear the pipes.
Thanks Rob.
Thanks for your review, Dart.
[QUOTE=Dart13;2132552]Now, another quick review is of the Kittens BJ bar in Soi Post Office. That was probably the worst BJ I have ever had, and overall the worst value of P4 P experience I've had (only the K-Pressure in HK could compete with that). BJ costs 850 thb and it was just mediocre. And the whole place is bad.[/QUOTE]We don't read much about Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2) and Soi Yamato (Soi 13/1) on here. I've seen the odd cute girl on both streets over the years but have never tried any out. I asked pricing from one once at Home Massage and was quoted a ridiculous amount (no, it wasn't because she wasn't interested in me since she ran to the other side of the soi to get me). After that, I never bothered asking. Anyone else have good or bad experiences on the many shops on both sois?
[QUOTE=Rob Jones;2132588] Can you recommend a good blow job bar near kittens because that will be my first stop when I land to clear the pipes.[/QUOTE]
you're likely better off to go to Soi 6 or one of the many G clubs like Kinnaree or on Soi Full Love inn.
[QUOTE=Dart13;2132552]Now, another quick review is of the Kittens BJ bar in Soi Post Office. That was probably the worst BJ I have ever had, and overall the worst value of P4 P experience I've had (only the K-Pressure in HK could compete with that). BJ costs 850 thb and it was just mediocre. And the whole place is bad.[/QUOTE]Um. Had some great sessions in K-Pressure.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2132441]Prices of what have gone up? My rent is still the same 4500 baht that it was 8 years ago. Baht bus still 10 baht. Fruit on the street still 10 baht.
[/QUOTE]Wow that sounds like a good deal. Where are you staying? How big is the place? What kind of condition is it in?
I usually get a 1 BR condo close to 2nd road around Avenue Mall. But I wouldn't mind trying other options.
Thanks in advance!
Started my evening out at LK metro to give it another try. First stop was sugar sugar agogo at about 8 pm. The atmosphere was pretty boring. I was one of two customers. I made it through until second round of damcers which seemed to be the higher prices models. But only two would have been a choice for me. I like the younger petite ladies normally. I bought the best one a drink and she had to dance soon there after. I made my exit as it was nothing I could live without.
Next stop was paradise agogo. At first glance I almost did a you-turn. But then I seen one lady that wasn't dancing at the time that really caught my eye. So I went for a beer. Her name was soi. Was only in Paradise for 4 days. 20 years old and petite. Best dancer in the place. The good dancers always get me. She was too sexy to pass up so I talked to mamasan. This was a first for me but she talked me into holding her for 1000 baht. Then come back after midnight for her and be cheaper. Maybe buying mamasan a drink paid off yet again?
I moved on to koas gogo. Had some really old ladies in there. Only lookers were taken by this time. One beer and I exited.
Stuck my head in ninja agogo but decided to check out papagayo due to advice from a fellow mongerer. It was 11 pm or so and nothing caught my eye. I believe it was said to go early. So I will try on another night. I ended up going to windmill for a hour and half of fun before returning for my lady at paradise.
My lady from paradise was great. We went out and partied. She drank too much. But the deeds were still done. BBBJ to BBFS. After problems with BBFS last trip I said I wouldn't do this but I was drunk also and it was done before it even registered what occurred. Had a little bit of symptom this morning (4 days later). Bit worried. Think I visit clinic. Seems same problem as last time that's just beginning. Probably a reason most here talk to bad about BBFS. Dur dur.
Took off for 3 days to go to Hua Hin with a lady I met last trip. Very very boring even with lady. I'd never go without lady. Nothing I saw of interest.
Tonight I check out the list Banana boi mentioned for lookers. I will report back. Hopefully my reports are helpful. Still learning a little bit.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2132605]
We don't read much about Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2) and Soi Yamato (Soi 13/1) on here. I've seen the odd cute girl on both streets over the years but have never tried any out. I asked pricing from one once at Home Massage and was quoted a ridiculous amount (no, it wasn't because she wasn't interested in me since she ran to the other side of the soi to get me). After that, I never bothered asking. Anyone else have good or bad experiences on the many shops on both sois?
[/QUOTE]I was quoted with a ridiculous amount too at massage shops in soi 13/2 a couple of times, this has happened some times ago. In soi 13/2 have Little Hole Bar, is a short time bar with crappy rooms and the prices are equal to soi6.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2132667]Tonight I check out the list Banana boi mentioned for lookers. I will report back. Hopefully my reports are helpful. Still learning a little bit.[/QUOTE]The order you go to these clubs is VERY important. I did not list the clubs in chronological order. I'm finding many clubs are opening later and later with some not opening now until 8:30 pm and girls still drifting in after 9 pm. Also, the new disturbing trend I have been noticing is anyone decent has been barfined by around 10:30 or 11 pm. I hate high season!
Someone else can correct me but the only half decent options before 8 pm now are Windmill at 7 pm (all girls there but not the best lookers), Happy and Baccara have about half their girls there before 8 pm, and Sensations is ok at 8 pm. Are there other good options before 8 pm?
[QUOTE=RobJones;2132588]I am happy you posted this. I am going to be in Pattaya in 10 days time and devils Den is on my to do list. I am planning on a 2 hour session the cost from their website being 4800. I think Vicky was on my preferred list due to the fact that she does anal. Did you pick both girls or pick one and allow her to choose the other? It's not cheap but to experience a threesome with PSE it is ok but to justify the cost I know that for the same amount of money I can't get a decent P4 P where I live for 1 hour so 2 girls for 2 hours seems like a bargain. Can you recommend a good blow job bar near kittens because that will be my first stop when I land to clear the pipes.
Thanks Rob.[/QUOTE]Hmm, are you sure she does anal? She was definitely to the left of the yellow line when I was there, both of them were in fact, which means no anal. I didn't remember their names at the time, but after reviewing the photos on the website I'm quite sure it was Vicky. Maybe she wasn't up to anal on that day! I picked both girls myself (again the papasan guy told its perfectly fine to do it that way). There were some really not that pretty women in the lineup, so I didn't want to end up with some of them. I'd certainly advise to have a look at the lineup in person, rather than booking someone ahead of time. Good luck and enjoy your trip!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2132626]Um. Had some great sessions in K-Pressure.[/QUOTE]I think I was really unlucky with the choice of the girl there.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2132588]I am happy you posted this. I am going to be in Pattaya in 10 days time and devils Den is on my to do list. I am planning on a 2 hour session the cost from their website being 4800. I think Vicky was on my preferred list due to the fact that she does anal. Did you pick both girls or pick one and allow her to choose the other? It's not cheap but to experience a threesome with PSE it is ok but to justify the cost I know that for the same amount of money I can't get a decent P4 P where I live for 1 hour so 2 girls for 2 hours seems like a bargain. Can you recommend a good blow job bar near kittens because that will be my first stop when I land to clear the pipes.
Thanks Rob.[/QUOTE]Vicky not do anal sex. If you want a good 3 holers choose Gem.
ThatGuy68, Pawar1234 and WankerBoy, sent some info. To you guys via PM a couple of days back. So, check your inbox. New at this PM thing and wasn't sure whether it got delivered. So, let me know.
Thanks.
I will be visiting Pattaya in next month. This will be my first visit.
What is the safest place to monger.
My budget is 2000 Bhat.
Please help.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2132704]Vicky not do anal sex. If you want a good 3 holers choose Gem.[/QUOTE]Exactly the type of stats we need to see on gals from all shops.
My last night in Pattaya was spent bouncing from bar to bar on Walking Street. It was a Monday, so talent level was lower than usual. I also wanted to avoid bars where I've barfined tons of girls because I then become a drink magnet for the entire bar. Walking Street can be very aggressive for ladies drinks. And if you have a history with these girls, it can spell trouble in the wallet. For those who don't know, many bars offer girls a 10 day contract salary. If a coyote gets 45,50, 60, or 65 drinks, depending on the bar, in just 10 days, she will get a 10,000-12,000 baht salary. Models generally get 12-16,000 baht per 10 days depending on which bar. So basically 4.5 - 6.5 drinks a night depending on which bar. Baccara is the only bar that I know of that doesn't do this. The girls get barfined plenty, so they are happy with 50 baht per drink and whatever salary they get additional for showing up. This will explain why some girls rarely work and don't go with customers. It's because they hit their quota in 2-3 days and then take off the rest of the time. Also this information is useful in barfining a girl that is hesitant to go. For example, if it's the girl's 10th day and she need 5 drinks to make her 10,000. Good luck on getting her to go with you. She's better off staying to make her quota. This is why I often ask girls how many drinks they have tonight? If they say 1. I say I will buy you 4 drinks and then can I barfine you? That way your quota is met for tonight.
Anyways I found myself at Fahrenheit. It was a poor line up. There were two girls that I previously had been with and a newer model that I hadn't, as the only thing I would have grabbed. The newer model #622 was cute in the face and had a slim natural body with firm tits. I've seen her before somewhere but wasn't sure. I asked mamasan if I had barfined her before and her response was she couldn't remember because I had taken so many girls there. So we decided just to ask her. #622 told mamasan "no," so I called her over. I made a mistake awhile back of barfining the same girl because of my poor memory. The girl had cut her hair short and I didn't recognize her. She was so so in bed and the whole time we sat and chatted the second time at the bar, she pretended not to know me. It was only until we were in the room and she was riding on top of me, she said "Why you not remember me?" I said we went before? She said yes about a year ago. I said "why you not tell me?" She said because I know you not take me again. Horrible.
Anyways back to #622. She was happy I chose her and told me she was scared to talk to me. I asked why? And she said because from my looks that I probably had a girl or two at this bar already (haha more like 14 that she doesn't know) and she didn't want trouble because she was new. I told her "no lady has me. " Long story short 1500 barfine and 3000 plus 200 tip for the girl. Bought her 5 consecutive drinks for her to meet her quota and tipped mamasan 100. In the room she was champ, and ended with BBBJ CIM. Her English is good for a Thai go go bar dancer. She says she doesn't go with all customers so YMMV. Don't get mad at me if results are not the same. Now I'm off to Vietnam.
[QUOTE=ThereForYou;2132722]I will be visiting Pattaya in next month. This will be my first visit.
What is the safest place to monger.
My budget is 2000 Bhat.
Please help.[/QUOTE]Your budget is 2000 baht for what? A day? For ST? LT? For sex and meals?
Forget the gogos and forget the body massage too (I think all body massage in Pattaya cost more than 2000 baht, correct me if I'm wrong).
You can hit soi6, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, WS disco (but not drink too much or you will exceed the budget) and all small G clubs around town for one ST. Beach road is the best bet for you if you want more than one girl a day.
To answer those looking for where are the best ladies before 8 pm, I think it would be Baccara. Baccara opens at 7:30, but only 5-6 decent lookers at the time, maybe a few more. If you are able to find a girl by the name of Piano there #110, she is the probably the hottest girl in the club. Taller for a Thai girl, has long blonde hair (now), slim with nice ass, 400 CC silicone boobs (DD) and tattoos on her body. Her body and face combine are about a 9/10 for a Thai Go Go bar girl. But be careful, she has type and doesn't go with all customers. I've taken her about 5 times and have stretched all limits with her, and all being LT experiences. But that's because her and I have an understanding on what our relationship is. For me she is great in bed and does everything I want. She works off and on, so if she is there, she will be gone before 10:00 I think. Another girl that is nice as well is Ana #108. She is also picky with her customers. Ana will flat out reject a drink if she doesn't like the way you look. But sometimes to avoid dancing and wait for their appointments (bookings made ahead of time), these girls will sit with you for drinks. Those who have had sex with #108 and #110 should consider themselves lucky when it comes to Walking Street girls. Those who have access to their LINE and Facebook, are legends in my book.
Girls flock in at 8:00,9:00, and 10:00. By 10:30 all the girls will be at full force, but you probably will not find a seat. Come early, and watch them trickle in to work. Palace is okay by 8:30 and so is Sapphire, Sensations, Happy, and Fahrenheit.
[QUOTE=ThereForYou;2132722]I will be visiting Pattaya in next month. This will be my first visit.
What is the safest place to monger.
My budget is 2000 Bhat.
Please help.[/QUOTE]Go find the darkest and filthiest alley near Third Road after midnight. Your 2000 baht budget will get you plenty of action. They might not have teeth, hair, or even be human. But at least it's something to poke on at night.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2132709]ThatGuy68, Pawar1234 and WankerBoy, sent some info. To you guys via PM a couple of days back. So, check your inbox. New at this PM thing and wasn't sure whether it got delivered. So, let me know.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks buddy. Got it.
Looks like the Bangkok BIB are in town. They shut down Walking street at 3 a the last few days.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2132810]Your budget is 2000 baht for what? A day? For ST? LT? For sex and meals?
Forget the gogos and forget the body massage too (I think all body massage in Pattaya cost more than 2000 baht, correct me if I'm wrong).
You can hit soi6, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, WS disco (but not drink too much or you will exceed the budget) and all small G clubs around town for one ST. Beach road is the best bet for you if you want more than one girl a day.[/QUOTE]You're wrong. I got a 3 hour massage + rimming and BJ for 1500. Very nice it was too. I had softened her up on TF first though.
Forgive me due to this being way off topic but couldn't really find a good answer elsewhere on internet. Needing some FAST relief from a cold that's kicking my arse and slowly getting worse. What would be the best plan? Just go straight to pharmacy or would going to a clinic be the better route? I realize some pharmacies no good and know of the good ones with good meds. Just don't know if going to clinic would be a waste of valuable time if they just going to send you to pharmacy.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2132709]ThatGuy68, Pawar1234 and WankerBoy, sent some info. To you guys via PM a couple of days back. So, check your inbox. New at this PM thing and wasn't sure whether it got delivered. So, let me know.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the information! I got it and thought I replied but maybe not. Went and checked out many of banana boi's list last night. Didn't make it to the Indian place. Must say what's up stood out. Seen the sexiest lady I've seen in Thailand. Only to miss her by minutes due to long time barfine. Too slow. Going back early tonight. I will be putting together a report soon.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133030]Forgive me due to this being way off topic but couldn't really find a good answer elsewhere on internet. Needing some FAST relief from a cold that's kicking my arse and slowly getting worse. What would be the best plan? Just go straight to pharmacy or would going to a clinic be the better route? I realize some pharmacies no good and know of the good ones with good meds. Just don't know if going to clinic would be a waste of valuable time if they just going to send you to pharmacy.[/QUOTE]That's a bummer, to get sick during holidays in Pattaya. I feel for you and I have also catched a cold and has come into the fourth day now being sick. Voice got affected from yesterday and I can barely speak. I am curious to hear what answers you will get to your question whether going to a good pharmacy or a clinic is the best thing to do.
If you are here for a short time I really understand that you want to find something that is working and is a relief to your cold. There are some things that you can do but I have found out that the best medicine is to relax and not be too active and to do things that is strengthening. It is boring of course but at least it is working. To have sex takes some power and for me I don't feel like that when being sick. Really boring when being here in Pattaya but what can one do.
It would be helpful if you at least indicate what problems associate with your cold? Do you have a fever, runny nose etc etc.
The best pharmacy I've used on a regular bases is Facino, they have many drugs that you need a prescription in the USA If you not want to spend the bucks they can look up the generic for you.
Whenever I get sick here normally it is the same same. What I carry with me is a generic of Zitromaxs called Augclav 1000, I use it for last resort if I know I have a infection, otherwise if it is minor I usually let nature takes it course lots of water and rest. But of course tough if you are on vacation and here to get pussy? Like most clinics they will load you up with not just medication but a number but the problem there is no power to them that is why I use Facino.
If you have a runny nose they will also give you basically antihisthme? Basically allergy medication and something for your throat if necessary nevertheless, whatever Facino gives is usually stronger than what you might get at a Thai clinic.
Here I have a kit, when all fails Thai medication as listed I always have a box of 24 hours NightQ, (sorry for the spelling errors) that will knock you butt out but usually ready to go the next day. bring with me and store basic allergy medication usually much stronger than what they have here.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2133054]It would be helpful if you at least indicate what problems associate with your cold? Do you have a fever, runny nose etc etc.
The best pharmacy I've used on a regular bases is Facino, they have many drugs that you need a prescription in the USA If you not want to spend the bucks they can look up the generic for you.
Whenever I get sick here normally it is the same same. What I carry with me is a generic of Zitromaxs called Augclav 1000, I use it for last resort if I know I have a infection, otherwise if it is minor I usually let nature takes it course lots of water and rest. But of course tough if you are on vacation and here to get pussy? Like most clinics they will load you up with not just medication but a number but the problem there is no power to them that is why I use Facino.
If you have a runny nose they will also give you basically antihisthme? Basically allergy medication and something for your throat if necessary nevertheless, whatever Facino gives is usually stronger than what you might get at a Thai clinic.
Here I have a kit, when all fails Thai medication as listed I always have a box of 24 hours NightQ, (sorry for the spelling errors) that will knock you butt out but usually ready to go the next day. bring with me and store basic allergy medication usually much stronger than what they have here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies. You too bdonkadonk. Got a few pms. Was worried I would of got heckled for post. But at this point I'd like to save my last few days from being thrown away.
Symptoms are runny nose that's starting to tighten up. Really unusual green color. Drainage down back of throat. I've been coughing stuff up but it too is starting to get tight. Sore throat and glands.
I feel like I could fight through it for 4 more days until I leave. Rather not lose a day or have to not drink. One monger sent me message saying high doses of vit see. This seems like the best route without losing a day of the trip?
Go to the hospital and get an injection if you want the fastest way to get better. Might cost you $100 USD if you have no travel insurance. Just a guess. As LBM says, providing us with your symptoms would be helpful. I've been knocked out twice for over a week since I have lived here.
edit - given your symptoms try an amoxicillin like Amoksiklav. For coughing, Terbrosin can suppress that. Talk to the pharmacist. I trust the one at LK Residence on Soi Diana. Also, the big green signed pharmacies, one on Soi Diana beside LK Metro and one on 2nd Road near Soi Honey / Pattaya Night Market.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133060]Thanks for the replies. You too bdonkadonk. Got a few pms. Was worried I would of got heckled for post. But at this point I'd like to save my last few days from being thrown away.[/QUOTE]No, of course you shouldn't be heckled because you're asking for advise of how to get well from being sick. And it is not so much off topic either, since being well is fundamental for a happy mongering. You got a few answers with advice and I hope that something will work out for you, to get well soon!
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133032]Appreciate the information! I got it and thought I replied but maybe not. Went and checked out many of banana boi's list last night. Didn't make it to the Indian place. Must say what's up stood out. Seen the sexiest lady I've seen in Thailand. Only to miss her by minutes due to long time barfine. Too slow. Going back early tonight. I will be putting together a report soon.[/QUOTE]FYI What's Up doesn't open until 9 pm I believe so don't get there too early! I think Imagine upstairs opens at 9:30 pm. Closing times are 4:30 am and 5 am, respectively, but I'd hate to see what's remaining that late. I was at What's Up again last night. It was a bit quiet IMHO.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133060]Thanks for the replies. You too bdonkadonk. Got a few pms. Was worried I would of got heckled for post. But at this point I'd like to save my last few days from being thrown away.
Symptoms are runny nose that's starting to tighten up. Really unusual green color. Drainage down back of throat. I've been coughing stuff up but it too is starting to get tight. Sore throat and glands.
I feel like I could fight through it for 4 more days until I leave. Rather not lose a day or have to not drink. One monger sent me message saying high doses of vit see. This seems like the best route without losing a day of the trip?[/QUOTE]IMO you have a sinus infection. Sinusitis. It is bacterial. Amoxicillin or Cipro (broad spectrum antibiotic) for 10 days, twice a day. Have you been much at Insomnia? I got this last time for one of the discos. Poor ventilation, very crowded, too many smokers, many people from many countries who have been on flights with many people from many countries. Cauldron of swarming bacteria looking for a good host! LOL You might be like me, susceptible to sinus infections in last 10 years due to narrow sinuses above the forehead limiting normal drainage. Bacteria seem to have a wonderful field day and hitch up residence with such human hosts and quickly multiply into the millions. You need antibiotics. Vitamin C won't cut it once the mucus is as you describe.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133060]Thanks for the replies. You too bdonkadonk. Got a few pms. Was worried I would of got heckled for post. But at this point I'd like to save my last few days from being thrown away.
Symptoms are runny nose that's starting to tighten up. Really unusual green color. Drainage down back of throat. I've been coughing stuff up but it too is starting to get tight. Sore throat and glands.
I feel like I could fight through it for 4 more days until I leave. Rather not lose a day or have to not drink. One monger sent me message saying high doses of vit see. This seems like the best route without losing a day of the trip?[/QUOTE]Those are some of the symptoms I get, you got a infection the green stuff tightens up as you noted, is when I start taking the Augclavs 1000, a antibotics take until finished Facino, it is 300 baht for 10-12 tablets, that will help with the glands after a day or so, to help with the throat I usually put a piece of chocolate also as noted you get some antihistamine which will help with the runny nose. The runny nose is a killer when you are doing mish and all of a sudden you got a big drip that is not the way you want to cum on her? As you know it isn't rocket science once you got it not a lot you can do to get rid of it right away it takes time.
I don't use the doctors or hospital here just tired of all the bullshit they feed you unless I have to and so far so good except for a few accidents. I'm lucky since I have medical people in my family who I can call or email as to what to do? Today, when I travel to the States I keep specific medication as I noted above to the States in case and also have on hand here in Thailand for me and the family. We go from simple aspirin, acetaminophen, day or night cold or flu medication, not use often try the natural route but when one of these pills takes care of aches, fever, sore throat, nasal congestion and cough sneezing and runny nose. They have nothing like this as I know in Thailand, it is like gold here, one tablets knocks you out for a good night sleep next morning usual like new. I got a few girls I've felt sorry for and given them a tablet, after they love you long time gets them to think you care?
Good luck.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2132817]Go find the darkest and filthiest alley near Third Road after midnight. Your 2000 baht budget will get you plenty of action. They might not have teeth, hair, or even be human. But at least it's something to poke on at night.[/QUOTE]I can easily find really nice girls in Pattaya for about 1000-1500 baht a day on average. I guess you live in your own (rich) world and don't know anything about normal life.
You just made a few normal posts but with this one you've messed up again.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2132800]in just 10 days, she will get a 10,000-12,000 baht salary. Models generally get 12-16,000 baht per 10 days depending on which bar. [/QUOTE]Ah yes, the old agency gal game. 10 day contracts, many for 11 k with 1 k going to the agent. Agents are making out like bandits. If you are running 100 gals, that's 300 k a month. Was the undoing of the gogo scene if you ask me. 30 - 48 k per dancer. Amazing when you consider what degreed experienced professionals make here. Exactly why BFs have skyrocketed in price in BKK and Pattaya. And I would add why attitudes have gotten worse. When the gals were making 10-15 per month they actually had to make more than their salary. Now, 30 k and some drinks and she can make a living. No real need to go with customers. Don't blame them. But sorry, it's not good for the punter; be he Western or Asian. All it's done is raise prices, decrease service level and fun. Fun; remember that? It was lots of fun before the "Arab" bought Midnight and the other bars and implemented "Coyotes" which led in turn to agencies.
[QUOTE=JamesRider;2132963]You're wrong. I got a 3 hour massage + rimming and BJ for 1500. Very nice it was too. I had softened her up on TF first though.[/QUOTE]Where I'm wrong? You talking about paying 1500 baht for only BJ with a TF girl, not a great deal IMO.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2133062]Go to the hospital and get an injection if you want the fastest way to get better. Might cost you $100 USD if you have no travel insurance.[/QUOTE]You can go to a clinic, see the doctor, get the same injection and 5 days of medicine for 400 baht.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2133113]Where I'm wrong? You talking about paying 1500 baht for only BJ with a TF girl, not a great deal IMO.[/QUOTE]LOL. He could have gone to Lo or Bliss for 700, got 3 hours massage from a 100 baht place, and had 500 baht left over without having to soften anybody up.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2131898]Perhaps. But I can't say I have observed Asian men escorting the best looking Thai bargirls or Freelancers by any world standard around either Pattaya or Bangkok. Not even on par with the pics of girls self-identified Asians here have posted as prime examples of their gamesmanship. So I would say judging who would take the most impressive photo is a very different challenge than judging who would be the best partner in bed tonight. Just like it is for Westerners.
And the fact that I see more Asian men choosing blatantly obvious Ladyboys to take to their room than any other ethnic group draws into serious question their standards for assessing female beauty of any race anyway.[/QUOTE]When I make a statement like that it's more of a generalization. Western Caucasians are better judges of what counts as beauty for Western Caucasians. Asians are the same. Beauty is the best judge for beauty. There are always exceptions. I've seen Asian guys holding hands with the funkiest looking girls and so have White, Indian, Blacks as well. Because IMHO, they think that's the best they can get. They can only get the girl they feel "likes" them. But never confuse your own "preferences" with what is generally consider "better traits" by the majority of the world.
You see these traits in beauty pageants like Miss Universe. Google Miss Japan, Miss China, or Miss Vietnam. These Asian girls are the standard for those countries, not the GoGo bar girls you see. I try to find girls closest with as many the desirable assets in pageants. Here are the list of traits that most consider a must for beauty. If you don't agree with them, you are just stating your preference and opinion. This list was complied by buddy who is a plastic surgeon and come from the opinions of women themselves. It's what is used to judge pageants. So next time you look at a girl, look closely to see what she has done to her body to resemble these traits. And besides my taste in girls have been complemented by both Whites and Asians. I think I would know. Beauty can judge Beauty easily.
One more for you. If you have gone with May from Sapphire. Consider yourself lucky because she's probably one of the hottest girls in Pattaya. Sapphire is mainly a Farang bar. She rarely works because she makes her quota of 45 drinks in 2 days. I was lucky to have banged her. She was an excellent lay in bed. Some Japanese and Korean guys don't find her attractive. I do and I think most guys as well.
I've also included a pic of my friend. I call him Satan's Little Helper. We went out to eat and he thinks these Asian waitresses were the hottest girls alive in the world. To me, they are average to below average. Many of the items on my list are missing when looking at his girls. Feel free to disagree, but once again we are talking about majority opinion here. If you disagree with anything on this list, as least make a good argument to why the rest of the world is wrong.
Long natural hair.
High cheek bones.
Slim and healthy.
Boobs that are firm, natural looking, bigger than average.
Colored eyes.
Round ass with and undercut.
Lighter skin.
Straight teeth.
Legs longer than torso of body.
Feet average to small size.
Nose, eyes, ears proportional to face and head.
Head proportional to body.
Long natural eyelashes.
Eyebrows non bushy.
No facial hair.
Nose not wide with a visible bridge.
Lips with double arch at the top and not to thick or thin.
Height average or above.
Flat stomach.
No scars on the body.
Minimal tattoos (classy if there are).
No underarm hair.
No leg hair.
Minimal body hair or not visible.
Trimmed pussy, can be bare around lips.
Youthful appearance.
Soft voice.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133030]Forgive me due to this being way off topic but couldn't really find a good answer elsewhere on internet. Needing some FAST relief from a cold that's kicking my arse and slowly getting worse. What would be the best plan? Just go straight to pharmacy or would going to a clinic be the better route? I realize some pharmacies no good and know of the good ones with good meds. Just don't know if going to clinic would be a waste of valuable time if they just going to send you to pharmacy.[/QUOTE]The cigarette smoke is what kills me. I usually carry Tylenol Cold and Flu (night and day pack) and sucrets extra strength for the cough and sore throat.
That usually keeps me going.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2133152]If you have gone with May from Sapphire. Consider yourself lucky because she's probably one of the hottest girls in Pattaya. Sapphire is mainly a Farang bar. She rarely works because she makes her quota of 45 drinks in 2 days. [/QUOTE]Tells you how little alcohol sapphire puts into their drinks if a girl can drink 22.5 drinks per day.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2131819]I am an experienced monger who has been with many, many hookers and I would not touch a single hooker from beach road no matter if she looked like some really attractive celebrity that you like. There are ample ladies around Pattaya who do not carry the same risks. If any decent young or old chaps are reading this. Save yourself the potential disaster and get girls from reputable venues. It is only a few bucks, which is nothing in the scheme of things.[/QUOTE]Don't automatically eliminate all BR girls. I met one back in 2016 who was quite sophisticated and well into middle class. She had great English, was very clean, well dressed and well mannered. I took her to lunch and had a delightful time with her. She claimed that she needed fast cash to fund a medical procedure for her son, and was in town for the weekend to get that cash. She was very pretty and appreciative of my donation. Did she really have a sick kid? Beats me, but she was not what we would consider a typical BR girl. But, yeah, on average, BR girls should probably be avoided, but every once in a while you find a girl who is there needing emergency cash and they will give a near GFE, as that is all they know how to give.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2132193] Asian men want girls who look like Kpop, Jpop, or JAV models ie. Those with nose jobs and cutesy like at Baccara. They aren't easy to find outside a gogo bar or a Thai bar off the beaten track imo. Farang prefer the traditional Thai look like at Windmill, Sapphire, iBar, and the LK Metro bars. Unfortunately, I have the tastes of Japanese / Korean. Wish it were different.
[/QUOTE]We are brothers. I would pay a few 10 Kbaht to have a Rin Momaka. OMG.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2133312]Tells you how little alcohol sapphire puts into their drinks if a girl can drink 22.5 drinks per day.[/QUOTE]And can we conclude that she wouldn't have been much of a ST worth a damn during either one of those days unless you caught her during the first hour on duty on the first of those two days?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2133426]And can we conclude that she wouldn't have been much of a ST worth a damn during either one of those days unless you caught her during the first hour on duty on the first of those two days?[/QUOTE]As I mentioned. Good luck finding her and barfining her. She makes her 10,000 baht salary in just 2 days. That means she probably has a sponsor or two. Doesn't go with customers often. And is picky on who she goes with. She comes and goes to work as she pleases. So really don't knock on her just because inability to get her. Just say the girl is out of your league.
Come on, Sapphire is a Farang Bar. It should be easy for Westerners to get May to go if you are a Westerner, right? I said she is one of the hottest girls on Walking Street, period. Those who have been lucky enough to experience her in bed can count your blessings. I know and hang. Out with about 20 regular punters from the USA. They all have her at the top of their list at Sapphire and top 3 for Walking Street. I'm happy to have banged her while others are playing catch up just to find her. Took a few months and some serious game playing, but I won and didn't overpay (except 8 drinks, 1500 barfine, and 3000 for the girl). She was excellent in bed!
Well I got some amoxicillin and a cough suppressant. I also took the advice of Dr sxxxx from pm. Grabbed some vit see. I was feeling good enough yesterday I headed to honey 2 and immediately after the pop I get a crazy bad headache. I ended up coming to hotel and calling it a night. Headache would be classed as a migraine. I managed to get through the night and woke up feeling great. Headed out to golf club and got some breakfast with Oj. Stopped by lady on road and got some more OJ. Ah. It's finally over I thought. Stopped by a oily massage and again right after the pop a intense headache immediately after. Also very sweaty hot. Oily had no air so idk. So upon research I seen too much vit see can cause headaches. I was doing 2 k MG as recommended by Dr sxxx. I have quit it and went to nothing but the amox. Luckily lady at pharmacy gave me some fast acting meds that knocked it out quick. But it had me thinking. Too much vit see. Or is this something along the lines of Dengue or Malaria? I do have travel insurance. Maybe a hospital trip is in order. I did just get back from hua hin which had lots of mosquitoes and I have some bites. Anyone have experience with these two diseases? The two headaches right after pops seems it should be telling. Maybe not. I feel great while in room. Kind of want to go after lady I missed at what's up few nights ago. Not sure how long a visit to hospital would even last. This is my last night unless I skip BKK fun. Recommendations?
Edit: Vitamin C... Phone keeps changing it to vitamin see. But when I say immediate headaches... It's instantaneous after pop... Anyone have dengue or Malaria?
ThatGuy68,
It won't be malaria (which I have had). The strain that I had had a 48 hour lifecycle in the blood, so every 2 days in the evening I would have a severe fever for a few hrs. Then the next day no fever. I don't recall any cough, phlegm, runny nose etc. Just fever, and headache.
You probably have some sort of viral strain of the common cold or of the flu in which case your body will be the only thing that will cure it. If it persists for several weeks then it is probably bacterial rather than viral, and so you may need antibiotics.
BTW it is my opinion that if you are virally sick then you should avoid contact with people as it is likely that you will pass it on to them as you will be contagious for one week approximately.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133515]Well I got some amoxicillin and a cough suppressant. I also took the advice of Dr sxxxx from pm. Grabbed some vit see. I was feeling good enough yesterday I headed to honey 2 and immediately after the pop I get a crazy bad headache. I ended up coming to hotel and calling it a night. Headache would be classed as a migraine. I managed to get through the night and woke up feeling great. Headed out to golf club and got some breakfast with Oj. Stopped by lady on road and got some more OJ. Ah. It's finally over I thought. Stopped by a oily massage and again right after the pop a intense headache immediately after. Also very sweaty hot. Oily had no air so idk. So upon research I seen too much vit see can cause headaches. I was doing 2 k MG as recommended by Dr sxxx. I have quit it and went to nothing but the amox. Luckily lady at pharmacy gave me some fast acting meds that knocked it out quick. But it had me thinking. Too much vit see. Or is this something along the lines of Dengue or Malaria? I do have travel insurance. Maybe a hospital trip is in order. I did just get back from hua hin which had lots of mosquitoes and I have some bites. Anyone have experience with these two diseases? The two headaches right after pops seems it should be telling. Maybe not. I feel great while in room. Kind of want to go after lady I missed at what's up few nights ago. Not sure how long a visit to hospital would even last. This is my last night unless I skip BKK fun. Recommendations?
Edit: Vitamin C... Phone keeps changing it to vitamin see. But when I say immediate headaches... It's instantaneous after pop... Anyone have dengue or Malaria?[/QUOTE]Headaches and fever along with body aches could be a sign of dengue. Might want to pop by the hospital for a check.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2133535]Headaches and fever along with body aches could be a sign of dengue. Might want to pop by the hospital for a check.[/QUOTE]Yeah I don't have body aches or joint pain. Or nausea or vomiting or diahrea. But the internet states any 2 off the list can mean dengue fever. But really only symptoms I have is cold symptoms. Except for the new headache twist that started yesterday evening. Which could be from too much vit see. Thanks for the help.
I just thought the instant headache after both sessions might of been something someone else experienced. It was very unusual! Nothing like I ever experienced. The first headache lasted through the night without meds and wasn't gone for 3 hours before I pushed the limits the 2nd time. So maybe I didn't give it time to go away. The internet shows it's a long process for dengue fever. Nothing a quick visit in hospital is going to fix. Got to constantly monitor blood and something else. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=ThereForYou;2132722]
What is the safest place to monger.[/QUOTE]Safety should not be much of a concern in Pattaya if you stick to all the tourist hot spots that are reported on ISG.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2132692]I was quoted with a ridiculous amount too at massage shops in soi 13/2 a couple of times, this has happened some times ago. In soi 13/2 have Little Hole Bar, is a short time bar with crappy rooms and the prices are equal to soi6.[/QUOTE]Just to update the board I took a walk through Soi Post Office (13/2) around 5 pm. I actually saw 2 decent younger girls there. Both were calling for me but I didn't talk to either one.
Soi 6 this afternoon around 3:30 pm. Saw a girl I liked at Wicked but she was busy being molested by a Farang. One other possible girl but she was too busy playing Line Farm on her phone. Didn't want to interrupt her game. Bombed out so went shopping. Will save my cash for the gogo bars.
Thatguy, if you really have Dengue Fever you should be seeking help from a medical professional and not listening to a bunch of perverts on a Sex board. 2 pages of medical discussion, let's get back to reviews guys or at least move the discussion to General Reports or The Thailand Chat thread no one uses for non hobby reports.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133541]Yeah I don't have body aches or joint pain. Or nausea or vomiting or diahrea. But the internet states any 2 off the list can mean dengue fever. But really only symptoms I have is cold symptoms. Except for the new headache twist that started yesterday evening. Which could be from too much vit see. Thanks for the help.
I just thought the instant headache after both sessions might of been something someone else experienced. It was very unusual! Nothing like I ever experienced. The first headache lasted through the night without meds and wasn't gone for 3 hours before I pushed the limits the 2nd time. So maybe I didn't give it time to go away. The internet shows it's a long process for dengue fever. Nothing a quick visit in hospital is going to fix. Got to constantly monitor blood and something else. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]What you seem to have is something I just had last year. I normally don't get headache at all and even when I do I try not to take any and just bare it out but if I do I take acetaminophen which I bring from the States. The one thing that goes with Dengue is you will have lots of pressure on your eyeballs, just blinking it hurts. I went to International hospital Soi 4, you can find out in 20 minutes if you think you have it, cost, total was 1900 baht. Even though I have the eye pressure it came up negative.
Last year, and I rarely get really sick here but both times I realized I got sick right after going to my regular Thai massage place, which many of the ladies were wearing mask including the one who gave me the massage, it also didn't help I was located in front of the A / see.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2133535]Headaches and fever along with body aches could be a sign of dengue. [/QUOTE]Yes, I had these symptoms when I took dengue fever in Patong back in December 2010. I spent 5/6 days in the hospital.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2133546]
Just to update the board I took a walk through Soi Post Office (13/2) around 5 pm. I actually saw 2 decent younger girls there. Both were calling for me but I didn't talk to either one.[/QUOTE]Why not? Maybe those girls would have quoted you a good price.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2133546] Saw a girl I liked at Wicked but she was busy being molested by a Farang. [/QUOTE]It's seems many farangs have fun to molested the girls in the bars, drinks and play game, rather than go upstair with her and have ST.
Hello everyone,
Just wish to share my first time experience in Pattaya.
I RTFF quite a bit to have a general idea about Pattaya and it's nightlife. I was also helped by reading a few beautiful blogs by some knowledgeable men.
So I landed in BKK airport in the early morning. After clearing immigration, which took a lot of time, I went a bought a DTAC sim card (299 plan). It served me well for my whole trip. 100 call credits and 2.5 GB 4 g data.
Next I went to basement to the Superrich money exchange. They really gave a good deal.
I had already booked my Bus (Bell Bus Service). It is a bit difficult to find as the lady had a tiny signboard. Anyways, at 8 AM the bus started and off we went to Pattaya. It's better to take a seat on rifht side as the sun bears down on you on the left side.
The ride was smooth and we reached Pattaya in 1.5 hours. From their office, they took us in a minivan and dropped one by one at our respective hotels.
As it was too early, my room wasn't ready. So I freshed up and wondered out after depositing the luggage.
5 minutes walk took me to the beach. Just to pass some time, I took a Jet ski ride and Parasailing. It was a nice adventure.
After that, I went to Sabai Dee Soapy massage. 15 minutes walk.
Around 10 girls were there. Discussing with the Mamasan, took one girl. 2500 all inclusive.
She took me to a room upstairs. Bed, sofa, air mattress and bathtub. She was 25 yr old. Cute. Good assets.
First the cleaning up in bathtub. Then a nice soapy in Mattress. Post that a shower together and then sex in the bed.
A nice experience. But the whole thing looked a bit rehearsed. Still I would recommend this a one time unique experience.
Next had some food in a nearby restaurant. Came back to hotel. And took some rest in my hotel to recharge my batteries for the evening.
Will continue to share my experience.
[QUOTE=JohnyJo;2131206]Banana boy, you dreaming? 500 bath for short haaahahaaa maybe 10 years ago. All price start from 1000 Bath, if you still yang and handsome.[/QUOTE]I just paid 500 baht for ST to a freelancer 2 days ago and I was not even looking to pay less. I was on Soi 7, at a massage place and negotiated total 1000 baht (200 for massage and 800 for the girl) for Full Service but found that they had no back room at all and sex was going to be the front room facing the street and only a curtain separating me and others. Just did not seem appealing at all. I expect some privacy. So, I just walked down to the Beach road to enjoy some fresh air. There were these 2 younger thai girls making eye contact and smiling. I went over and starting talking to them. Before I could even state a price, one girl said that she's take 500 baht from me as she liked me. LOL. I am no Thai veteran monger but I am in good shape and dress better. I was taken aback a little, as I was about to drop 1000 baht a short while ago. She was 24 years old, much better looking the old dogs that work on bars around Soi 7. Took her back to the hotel. It was a very enjoyable session with her. I asked about her friend and she said that she asked 700 baht.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2133775]I just paid 500 baht for ST to a freelancer 2 days ago and I was not even looking to pay less. I was on Soi 7, at a massage place and negotiated total 1000 baht (200 for massage and 800 for the girl) for Full Service[/QUOTE]I have been saying BR 500 and massage place 1000 all-in for years. At least one guy finally experienced that what I speak is gospel. Next time you are on Soi 6 negotiate 1000 all-in for the trifecta.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2133541]Yeah I don't have body aches or joint pain. Or nausea or vomiting or diahrea. But the internet states any 2 off the list can mean dengue fever. But really only symptoms I have is cold symptoms. Except for the new headache twist that started yesterday evening. Which could be from too much vit see. Thanks for the help.
I just thought the instant headache after both sessions might of been something someone else experienced. It was very unusual! Nothing like I ever experienced. The first headache lasted through the night without meds and wasn't gone for 3 hours before I pushed the limits the 2nd time. So maybe I didn't give it time to go away. The internet shows it's a long process for dengue fever. Nothing a quick visit in hospital is going to fix. Got to constantly monitor blood and something else. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I had the instant sharp headaches a few years ago and it turned out to be blood-pressure related. Lots more drinks than my usual pattern at home (as is easy to do in Pattaya) and it shot that up to dangerous levels. Found out a few days later with a scheduled exam program at Bumrungrad in Bangkok where they took the readings and started acting like I might be an emergency patient (they did 4 of 'them, IIRC).
That was a kind of turning point and I've had to dial way back, what with age + the threat of metabolic syndrome.
Am in Pattaya now and am getting the aches, sore throat and low-grade fever. I *think* it's the mattress + a rough B150 massage, along with "air-con throat. " Sure hope it's not dengue.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2133312]Tells you how little alcohol sapphire puts into their drinks if a girl can drink 22.5 drinks per day.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of Hooty's from Walking Street (near the tree) some 15 or so years ago. For a time during a summer they had a B10 drink special but it was so watered that me and a friend downed 40 of 'them. Maybe a bit TOO gimmicky.
Guys need help.
3th time Pattaya (Nov. 2017) and I don't get it. What am I doing wrong?
So far I have few freelancers who want to meet me but told me they won't let me pay. (so I keep them at a distance.).
One gogogirl I went out with 2 nights still didn't have sex with but keeps asking me to go out again. She even said she pays the barfine herself next time (WTF).
Only boom boom in a week I had was from loud music in bars. Hahaha.
Hey Banana Boi! I thought of you when I saw this article ( it was just written/posted today ... Google news feed ) !
Is this guy one of your friends from this board?
Or, maybe it's one of Mr. ENT's friends? LOL. ROFLMAO!!
[URL]http://www.pattayamail.com/heart2heart/blushing-bride-300000-cash-200195[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2133795]I have been saying BR 500 and massage place 1000 all-in for years. At least one guy finally experienced that what I speak is gospel. Next time you are on Soi 6 negotiate 1000 all-in for the trifecta.[/QUOTE]Just to let others know, I paid even less at massage place in Hui Hin for wonderful sex, full service, BBBJ and covered sex. 200 for massage + 600 for the girl = 800 Baht. She wanted 1000 for herself but I talked it down to 800 Baht total.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2133775]I just paid 500 baht for ST to a freelancer 2 days ago and I was not even looking to pay less. ...There were these 2 younger thai girls making eye contact and smiling. I went over and starting talking to them. Before I could even state a price, one girl said that she's take 500 baht from me as she liked me. LOL. I am no Thai veteran monger but I am in good shape and dress better. I was taken aback a little, as I was about to drop 1000 baht a short while ago. She was 24 years old, much better looking the old dogs that work on bars around Soi 7. Took her back to the hotel. It was a very enjoyable session with her. I asked about her friend and she said that she asked 700 baht.[/QUOTE]I also got a beach road free lancer for 500 bahts recently, but the girl was not young and not better looking. Mine had a nice body though. I think your case is not the norm these days. Some of you young studs can pull this off, but not everybody can.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2133397]Don't automatically eliminate all BR girls. I met one back in 2016 who was quite sophisticated and well into middle class. She had great English...[/QUOTE]I did too. I met one who was pursuing a BS degree in French and who appeared quite sophisticated. Both her English and her French were pretty decent. When asked, she said she was helping her fiance with the cost of getting their first lodging place. I met others who also had interesting and believable stories.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2132817]Go find the darkest and filthiest alley near Third Road after midnight. Your 2000 baht budget will get you plenty of action. They might not have teeth, hair, or even be human. But at least it's something to poke on at night.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my friend but that's a bunch of baloney! 2 k bahts can get you plenty of action. Not the best but decent nonetheless. For starter, BR girls rarely ask more than 1 K. I was in Pattaya last week and I met a lovely girl at Honey2 massage on Soy Diana. This girl was from the 2 K group. Granted, I offered her drinks plus a nice tip at the end, but that was optional.
[QUOTE=NeoGuy11;2133755]Hello everyone,
Just wish to share my first time experience in Pattaya.
I RTFF quite a bit to have a general idea about Pattaya and it's nightlife. I was also helped by reading a few beautiful blogs by some knowledgeable men.
So I landed in BKK airport in the early morning. After clearing immigration, which took a lot of time, I went a bought a DTAC sim card (299 plan). It served me well for my whole trip. 100 call credits and 2.5 GB 4 g data.
Next I went to basement to the Superrich money exchange. They really gave a good deal.
I had already booked my Bus (Bell Bus Service). It is a bit difficult to find as the lady had a tiny signboard. Anyways, at 8 AM the bus started and off we went to Pattaya. It's better to take a seat on rifht side as the sun bears down on you on the left side.
The ride was smooth and we reached Pattaya in 1.5 hours. From their office, they took us in a minivan and dropped one by one at our respective hotels.
As it was too early, my room wasn't ready. So I freshed up and wondered out after depositing the luggage.
5 minutes walk took me to the beach. Just to pass some time, I took a Jet ski ride and Parasailing. It was a nice adventure.
After that, I went to Sabai Dee Soapy massage. 15 minutes walk.
Around 10 girls were there. Discussing with the Mamasan, took one girl. 2500 all inclusive.
She took me to a room upstairs. Bed, sofa, air mattress and bathtub. She was 25 yr old. Cute. Good assets.
First the cleaning up in bathtub. Then a nice soapy in Mattress. Post that a shower together and then sex in the bed.
A nice experience. But the whole thing looked a bit rehearsed. Still I would recommend this a one time unique experience.
Next had some food in a nearby restaurant. Came back to hotel. And took some rest in my hotel to recharge my batteries for the evening.
Will continue to share my experience.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report. I have two questions for you. (1) Did you get body to body massage when you did soapy massage? (2) Did the girl give you BBBJ or CBJ or no BJ at all?
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2133397]Don't automatically eliminate all BR girls. I met one back in 2016 who was quite sophisticated and well into middle class. She had great English, was very clean, well dressed and well mannered. I took her to lunch and had a delightful time with her. She claimed that she needed fast cash to fund a medical procedure for her son, and was in town for the weekend to get that cash. She was very pretty and appreciative of my donation. Did she really have a sick kid? Beats me, but she was not what we would consider a typical BR girl. But, yeah, on average, BR girls should probably be avoided, but every once in a while you find a girl who is there needing emergency cash and they will give a near GFE, as that is all they know how to give.[/QUOTE]I only say this out of public service for any new mongers reading this board that might be sucked in to going on BR. Girls get paid a lot more outside of BR, they are protected and they have a salary and employment conditions. On beach road they have nothing. At a GoGo bar they can charge 5 k-10 k to sleep with just one customer, once or twice, on Soi 6 they might be able to get 10 customers a night at 1 k each because the room is just upstairs. On beach road, getting paid 500 for ST and going all the way to some strange man's hotel is an awful deal. It is vastly inferior working conditions. There might be 1 or 2 girls out of 1000 who are stupid enough to think BR is a good deal, but for the rest, they're either ugly or they have something wrong with them. Very likely HIV. I went for numerous walks down BR and I did not see a single woman I would ever consider.
If she was pretty and had a "sick kid" then Soi 6 would be a definite for her, she will get a salary and a support network of other women and the capacity to make a lot out of lady drinks and ST in the room upstairs. There is no reason for beach road. Especially not when you have ibar down the road; which is a different story all together. Still dangerous but much better than BR.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110]I only say this out of public service for any new mongers reading this board that might be sucked in to going on BR. Girls get paid a lot more outside of BR, they are protected and they have a salary and employment conditions. On beach road they have nothing. At a GoGo bar they can charge 5 k-10 k to sleep with just one customer, once or twice, on Soi 6 they might be able to get 10 customers a night at 1 k each because the room is just upstairs. On beach road, getting paid 500 for ST and going all the way to some strange man's hotel is an awful deal. It is vastly inferior working conditions. There might be 1 or 2 girls out of 1000 who are stupid enough to think BR is a good deal, but for the rest, they're either ugly or they have something wrong with them. Very likely HIV. I went for numerous walks down BR and I did not see a single woman I would ever consider.If she was pretty and had a "sick kid" then Soi 6 would be a definite for her, she will get a salary and a support network of other women and the capacity to make a lot out of lady drinks and ST in the room upstairs. There is no reason for beach road. Especially not when you have ibar down the road; which is a different story all together. Still dangerous but much better than BR.[/QUOTE]You assume that girls who work at bars are better girls. They have no better health checks, may be alcoholic and a hardcore pro. Ever thought that many girls may NOT want to work in bars and become alcoholics with the lady drinks every night?
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110]Girls get paid a lot more outside of BR, they are protected and they have a salary and employment conditions. On beach road they have nothing. At a GoGo bar they can charge 5 k-10 k to sleep with just one customer, once or twice, on Soi 6 they might be able to get 10 customers a night at 1 k each because the room is just upstairs. On beach road, getting paid 500 for ST and going all the way to some strange man's hotel is an awful deal.[/QUOTE]You just refuse to understand that chicks go down to Beach Road as a means to get quick money and not to be employed full time. I know chicks that have normal jobs in Bangkok but come to Pattaya some weekends just to go to Beach Road. Should I let them know they should go work at the gogo bar or on Soi 6 because if not then it means they have HIV?
Not everyone wants to have to show up in a gogo for 8 hours a night 29 nights a month and be under pressure to hawk drinks and keep the party going. Some people prefer to go get some quick money and take their ass back home. The same way some mongers prefer Beach Road, beer bar, soapie, a gogo, gentlemen's club, bj bar, massage jack shack, disco, or chat app, why can't you face that there are hookers that have their preference on which part of the circuit to work as well?
Beach road girls are not dangerous. I have been with hundreds and the only problem I had was one that stole a pen from my hotel room. But now I take precautions like only using ST rooms, and locking my small backpack with a combination lock for when I am in the shower. That way there is nothing to steal.
To avoid HIV, wear a condom. To avoid Gonnorhea and Chlamydia do not do BBBJ. To avoid herpes, wash off your tackle with soap and water, and preferably your whole body.
Agree a price for their service in advance and do not become angry with them when in the room. Just pay them and move on if there is a problem, but this is highly unlikely.
When selecting a chick I try to avoid any overly aggressive girls. One that smiles during the interview process is best.
Last night I was walking on Beach Road and this punter was talking to a fairly nice young hooker when she started to yell out:" this guy want to boom boom no condom". She kept shouting it out and he pretty rapidly moved on.
As I progressed further up the road there was a group of european looking guys who were with a few thai girls. They were sitting on some steps by the beach and about 5 meters away there was an irate fairly ugly and fattish thai chick who started screaming at them. Then she picked up a small sized beer bottle which was full of beer and opened, and pelted it at them. It hit one of the guys on the arm, luckily not on the head. To their credit they remained calm and slowly started to move away without approaching the nutcase thai chick.
Yeah, good times on Beach Road.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134128]Not everyone wants to have to show up in a gogo for 8 hours a night 29 nights a month [/QUOTE]Which gogo bars force the girls to work 29 nights per month? As far as I know it's usually 7 or 10 days working if they want their base salary, then off until they want to begin their next pay schedule.
I'm no expert at this since it's unimportant to me but my understanding of some gogo bars is that girls are not paid if they do not work 7 or 10 day shifts. Missing a day, coming in late, forgetting your badge number result in heavy fines. Sure some bars offer 10 k plus drinks per 7 days but most of these girls are so forgetful, flaky, and disorganized that they only get half of that by the end of the week. For this reason, many girls are not cut out for working in a gogo bar, especially as Mr. E points out regarding girls visiting from other cities for only a few days. Not sure on Soi 6 girl payment structure for salary and drinks.
[QUOTE=JoeFox;2133813]So far I have few freelancers who want to meet me but told me they won't let me pay. (so I keep them at a distance.).
One gogogirl I went out with 2 nights still didn't have sex with but keeps asking me to go out again. She even said she pays the barfine herself next time (WTF).
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Why stay away from FL's who won't let you pay?
Of course the gogo girl is willing to pay her own barfine if you pay her the going rates for a ST/LT. You're an easy date since she doesn't have to fuck you.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2134036](1) Did you get body to body massage when you did soapy massage? [/QUOTE]
Getting a bodyslide / body to body massage is a given in any soapie.
The other day I went to an afternoon massage on Soi 3 (the soi where Honey 1 is). I always thought these girls provided extras as I have had sex in a place on Soi 3 in the past. The girl I chose was around 20 and she looked very cute imo. I did get a decent massage from her but when I asked for a handjob with tip she looked absolutely disgusted. Just wondering if she just hated me or she really didn't provide even a HJ. I'm sure it didn't help that I interrupted her while she was eating her somtam.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110]I only say this out of public service for any new mongers reading this board that might be sucked in to going on BR.
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There might be 1 or 2 girls out of 1000 who are stupid enough to think BR is a good deal, but for the rest, they're either ugly or they have something wrong with them. Very likely HIV. I went for numerous walks down BR and I did not see a single woman I would ever consider.
[/QUOTE]As a public service to anyone reading this thread I would like to point out how utterly illogical your thinking is, particularly with regard to the subject of HIV and other STDs.
Has your circular illogic brought you to the conclusion that only ugly women are susceptible to contracing HIV or other STDs? Because, if the girls reduced (in your way of thinking) to working Beach Road are there because they didn't pass a medical check to either get a job or keep a job in a venue that requires a clean one, then there ought to be at least a notable percentage of younger, hotter girls kicked out of the go-go bars and beer bars for this same reason standing right along side of the ugly ones, wouldn't you say?
I mean, some that even you might be attracted to enough to consider taking for 1,000 baht or less, no?
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110]On beach road, getting paid 500 for ST and going all the way to some strange man's hotel is an awful deal. [/QUOTE]Oh yes because gogo girls, bar girls and freelancers from disco don't going to some strange man's hotel.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110]or they have something wrong with them. Very likely HIV. [/QUOTE]LOL again with this BS? Do you kidding us? The only one who has something wrong is you. Probably you are mentally ill.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110]If she was pretty and had a "sick kid" then Soi 6 would be a definite for her[/QUOTE]Maybe she don't have time to spend all day sit on a stool in soi 6, but she want some quick money.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134110] Especially not when you have ibar down the road; which is a different story all together. Still dangerous but much better than BR.[/QUOTE]WOW customer from disco, because girls working in disco can't find a problematic customer, right? Many farangs in disco are drunk or worse high with some drugs.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2134148]The other day I went to an afternoon massage on Soi 3 (the soi where Honey 1 is). I always thought these girls provided extras as I have had sex in a place on Soi 3 in the past. The girl I chose was around 20 and she looked very cute imo. I did get a decent massage from her but when I asked for a handjob with tip she looked absolutely disgusted. Just wondering if she just hated me or she really didn't provide even a HJ. I'm sure it didn't help that I interrupted her while she was eating her somtam.[/QUOTE]LOL. I swear, BananaBoi, that is the exact same reaction I have gotten from virtually every P4 P girl on Walking Street and Soi 6 I asked about giving me a BBBJ+CIM in the past 4-5 trips I've wasted, I mean taken, to Pattaya. Talking about a couple of dozen girls I have approached, bought drinks for and chatted up about it by now. I had no idea some or all of those girls might have reacted just as dramatically negative if I had only been asking for a HJ, but I would not be surprised if they did.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2134148]The other day I went to an afternoon massage on Soi 3 (the soi where Honey 1 is). I always thought these girls provided extras as I have had sex in a place on Soi 3 in the past. The girl I chose was around 20 and she looked very cute imo. I did get a decent massage from her but when I asked for a handjob with tip she looked absolutely disgusted. Just wondering if she just hated me or she really didn't provide even a HJ. I'm sure it didn't help that I interrupted her while she was eating her somtam.[/QUOTE]Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but she hated you. I've never NOT been offered at least a handjob in the dozens of times I've indulged in that Soi. 🤓.
Maybe it was the size or shape of the banana?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134128]You just refuse to understand that chicks go down to Beach Road as a means to get quick money and not to be employed full time. I know chicks that have normal jobs in Bangkok but come to Pattaya some weekends just to go to Beach Road. Should I let them know they should go work at the gogo bar or on Soi 6 because if not then it means they have HIV?
Not everyone wants to have to show up in a gogo for 8 hours a night 29 nights a month and be under pressure to hawk drinks and keep the party going. Some people prefer to go get some quick money and take their ass back home. The same way some mongers prefer Beach Road, beer bar, soapie, a gogo, gentlemen's club, bj bar, massage jack shack, disco, or chat app, why can't you face that there are hookers that have their preference on which part of the circuit to work as well?[/QUOTE]If that is the case, they go ibar, if they are old and crusty and basically unfuckable, they go beach road. Young attractive freelancers absolutely can be found in ibar. Though, they don't strike me to be as clean or as fresh as those in the gogo bars. Possibly they are mid to late 20's wash outs who for whatever reason don't want to work in a gogo bar any longer.
[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2134208]If that is the case, they go ibar, if they are old and crusty and basically unfuckable, they go beach road. Young attractive freelancers absolutely can be found in ibar. Though, they don't strike me to be as clean or as fresh as those in the gogo bars. Possibly they are mid to late 20's wash outs who for whatever reason don't want to work in a gogo bar any longer.[/QUOTE]We have all faced that you do not know what the hell you are talking about. I know chicks that go to 808 and iBar after they leave Beach Road.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134224]We have all faced that you do not know what the hell you are talking about.[/QUOTE]This is obvious, he just have fun to trolling around. Is useless to waste our time to answer him.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134224] I know chicks that go to 808 and iBar after they leave Beach Road.[/QUOTE]Yes, me too. This is normal, only he can't understand this.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2134138]Why stay away from FL's who won't let you pay?
Of course the gogo girl is willing to pay her own barfine if you pay her the going rates for a ST/LT. You're an easy date since she doesn't have to fuck you.[/QUOTE]Uhm. She also do not want me to pay ST / LT. Didn't pay at all #freebies #everywhere.
And you are right. No reason not the meet the FL's who say they won't charge.
Thanks.
I was strolling along soi 6 when a group of girls caught my attention. When I approached them, one of them was pushed in my direction by the others. Until then I had only seen her from behind: perfect legs, slim but not skinny, about 165 cm tall, beautiful face with long black hair. It was obvious, that the others wanted her to go with me, even though I didn't understand a word of their conversation. And why not, I didn't see a reason to decline. She was a bit hesitant and I had the impression, that her friends assured her, that she would be in good hands with me.
We took a seat in the bar and had a drink together. Obviously she was inexperienced; it turned out she is 22, no baby and on her second week away from Isaan. But she was willing and ready to go for it.
In the room when her upholstered bra came off, it revealed almost nonexistant tits, but nice long nipples. After the shower she gave a long BBBJ while I had a finger on her pussy, which became wet pretty soon. She seemed surprised, when I did DATY on her young pussy; her moaning confirmed that she liked it.
There was no doubt that she was new to the business and not a hardened trooper, so I wanted to make it as enjoyable as possible for her. We kissed a lot and I caressed her nipples with fingers and lips, they responded by becoming hard and erect. Now it was time to enter her pussy. She in a sitting position, and I was kneeling in front of her. One of my hands supported her butt while I gently and very slowly guided her pussy onto my dick. She clasped one hand around my wrist and breathed harder the deeper I came. It was very tight, almost like defloration. Maybe the first time for her with a goodsized western male organ; and I have to admit I'm proud of my little friend: he really rose to the occasion.
When I was all in, I gave her time to relax, kissing and caressing her wonderful mouth and nipples. Slowly I began to move in and out, giving her time to be comfortable. Soon we found a rhythm, but the sounds she made, made me think she was in pain. I was worried and asked her about it, but she assured me everything was fine! She sucked my lips in passionte DFK; her tightness and beauty didn't allow me to last very long. She made me feel decades younger.
Afterwards I proposed marriage and having babies together; to my surprise she declined. I can't imagine why.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2134250]I was strolling along soi 6 when a group of girls caught my attention. When I approached them, one of them was pushed in my direction by the others. Until then I had only seen her from behind: perfect legs, slim but not skinny, about 165 cm tall, beautiful face with long black hair. She made me feel decades younger.
Afterwards I proposed marriage and having babies together; to my surprise she declined. I can't imagine why.[/QUOTE]Very simple, you did not offer the right amount of baht to become your future ex wife.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2134148]I'm sure it didn't help that I interrupted her while she was eating her somtam.[/QUOTE]Never ask a girl to give you a HJ while she's eating somtam.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2134344]Never ask a girl to give you a HJ while she's eating somtam.[/QUOTE]Or a blow job!!
Hotman.
I can't find many reviews about gentleman clubs, here or elsewhere; especially what costs are to be expected. Is it worth the effort?
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2134377]I can't find many reviews about gentleman clubs, here or elsewhere; especially what costs are to be expected. Is it worth the effort?[/QUOTE]Cost are usually 500/700 baht for BJ, 700/1000 baht for ST, 300/400 baht for the room. Ladydrinks around 120/160 baht. Some clubs have buffet days.
You don't need too much effort to visit these clubs with your motorbike or motorbike taxi, just go in take a drink and check the girls.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2134377]I can't find many reviews about gentleman clubs, here or elsewhere; especially what costs are to be expected. Is it worth the effort?[/QUOTE]There is one section here by guests: Pattaya Gentlemensclubs with a list of clubs. One popular club is [URL]Kinnareeplace.com[/URL]. 1000ST 350 room 160 ladydrinks. Best time 15-18. Another one is Telephonebar. BBBJ 500 in the bar! ST 1000 + variable prices rooms.
Kinnaree has a good choice of girls. Earlier it was easy to agree to LT in hotel after 19.00 Now the best girls go to Japaneese and Korean clubs after 19.00 There the earn so much more!
Telephonebar is perhaps the only club where you are sure to get CIM as a standard.
[QUOTE=LovePalace;2134458]There is one section here by guests: Pattaya Gentlemensclubs with a list of clubs. One popular club is [URL]Kinnareeplace.com[/URL]. 1000ST 350 room 160 ladydrinks. Best time 15-18. Another one is Telephonebar. BBBJ 500 in the bar! ST 1000 + variable prices rooms.
Telephonebar is perhaps the only club where you are sure to get CIM as a standard.[/QUOTE]Telephone Bar is not a G Club. It is a blow job bar. CIM is standard at other BJ bars such as Bliss Lounge and Lolis.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2134250]
There was no doubt that she was new to the business and not a hardened trooper, so I wanted to make it as enjoyable as possible for her.[/QUOTE]I have conjectured that the new girls are the most likely to provide a real GFE experience, as they haven't yet learned of any other way to have sex. Some of these girls may indeed have only been with one guy and maybe with him only a few times. You did very well by showing her a good time, so she might stay sweet a nice a little while longer. Having said that, I had one girl who was maybe 19, no kid, and came to Pattaya with her mother. I was one of her first, so she said, and she was very tight but she did NOT provide a GFE by any means. I did see her again to see if maybe she had been a little uncomfortable with me as a stranger, but the second experience was as bad as the first. So you never know.
Hi folks,
After my adventures to start the day, took some rest at the hotel.
In the afternoon went out and wandered over the whole place, right into the walking street.
The whole sois are full of beer bars and massage parlours. All kinds of ladies, young and old, beautiful and not so beautiful, smile at you, shout at you and try to get your attention. Truly a surreal experience. Saw a few bars with Ladyboys too. Finally reached walking street but it was still late afternoon so looked like a normal street. Most bars were closed. Only some tourists going around.
All in all I think I covered around 3-4 km on foot. Must say it was an experience worth having.
While coming back to hotel, just on a whim entered a beer bar. Ordered a cola as I don't drink. Everyone was surprised LOL.
There were a few bars girls. Liked one of them. Cute face. 25 years. Offered her a lady drink. Chatted a bit. Her English was patchy but workable.
Asked her about the rates and finalized 1000 Baht for ST including barfine. Dunno if I overpaid?
Anyways, back to hotel. No issues whatsoever with reception. Just gave her ID.
In the room, she showered first. Then asked me to do it.
She was good in bed. Specially BBBJ. She went on and on. All positions. Liked her very much. No attitude. Full GFE.
By the time we finished, it was almost 8. So came out together and sending her on her way with a kiss, I started out towards Walking street.
Thus time took a bike ride. Haha.
Adventures in GoGo land in my next post.
[QUOTE=LovePalace;2134458]There is one section here by guests: Pattaya Gentlemensclubs with a list of clubs. One popular club is [URL]Kinnareeplace.com[/URL]. 1000ST 350 room 160 ladydrinks. Best time 15-18. Another one is Telephonebar. BBBJ 500 in the bar! ST 1000 + variable prices rooms.
Kinnaree has a good choice of girls. Earlier it was easy to agree to LT in hotel after 19.00 Now the best girls go to Japaneese and Korean clubs after 19.00 There the earn so much more!
Telephonebar is perhaps the only club where you are sure to get CIM as a standard.[/QUOTE]Is the Telephone Bar near South Pattaya Road and Sukhumvit Road or near that area? I want a bar room BBBJ so that will be on my agenda.
Thanks Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2134575]Is the Telephone Bar near South Pattaya Road and Sukhumvit Road or near that area? I want a bar room BBBJ so that will be on my agenda.
Thanks Rob.[/QUOTE]You can take the bathbus South Pattaya Road almost to Sukhumvit Road. When you see a big sign Green Grass on your left, signal stop. You see a corner with cafeteria Ice Frost Dessert. Turn left down that road. Turn right at / eleven, pass LK Grand and then next to the left, then you see the english phone box which is the entrance. 6 min from bahtbus. Club is open from 10 or earlier. Close 21.00 Ask for Jane.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2134575]Is the Telephone Bar near South Pattaya Road and Sukhumvit Road or near that area? I want a bar room BBBJ so that will be on my agenda.
[/QUOTE]Yes, you can reach Le Telephone from Pattaya Tai soi 2 or from Sukhumvit Road soi 46/3, check google maps, it is marked. You could check also the sister bar Le Poste in soi Lengkee.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134465]Telephone Bar is not a G Club. It is a blow job bar. CIM is standard at other BJ bars such as Bliss Lounge and Lolis.[/QUOTE]What is the difference between a G Club and a BJ bar? From my experience, girls in BJ bars (Bar la Poste, Telephone) will do FS and G club girls with do BJ only.
Rob, if you want good looking girls Telephone and La Poste aren't the places to seek this out. The G clubs have a lot of uglies but definitely can find some gems too. If your trip is short, just stick to Soi 6 like everyone else on here. If more than a week, try at last Kinnaree. Many G clubs walking distance from Soi Buakhao and Soi Lengkee. The Den, Xzyte, Bar de la Poste, L0l1tas, Bliss, Pin Up, Geisha, M Club, Pirates, Club Sin, J club, Club 4, 007, Carre Blanc, etc. Another group in Jomtien. Kit Cat, Jade House. Camel Toe, Passion. In Pratumnak Hill, Kinnaree and Heaven. A bunch more on the Dark Side. Apologies if I missed a club. I have some gems in these places but let's make no mistake about this, they are not top tier gogo girls and you're lucky to find 1 or 2 decent girls in each place. Kinnaree and Kit Cat may be the 2 exceptions. Having said that, they are fun places to spend an afternoon when most places other than Soi 6 are still closed.
To get to Telephone bar, South Pattaya Road baht bus towards Sukhumvit. It's about a 3 minute walk from South Pattaya Road.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2134627]What is the difference between a G Club and a BJ bar? [/QUOTE]The accomodations and the ammenities. Some G Clubs will have swimming pools, food, couches in the main area, and better rooms. A BJ bar will have bar stools, a pool table, and you can get your dick sucked at some in public or go to a crude room in the back or upstairs. I would say with most G Clubs the owner has put more money into it than a BJ bar.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2134627]If more than a week, try at last Kinnaree. Many G clubs walking distance from Soi Buakhao and Soi Lengkee. The Den, Xzyte, Bar de la Poste, L0l1tas, Bliss, Pin Up, Geisha, M Club, Pirates, Club Sin, J club, Club 4, 007, Carre Blanc, etc. Another group in Jomtien. Kit Cat, Jade House. Camel Toe, Passion. In Pratumnak Hill, Kinnaree and Heaven.
[/QUOTE]Camel Toe is in soi Kophai 10, not in Jomtien. Pin Up? I never heard about this club so I searched on google and seems that Pin Up is the former Fairy Club (in a small alley of soi buakhao). It's right?
Winchester and Rioja are still close?
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2134682]Camel Toe is in soi Kophai 10, not in Jomtien. Pin Up? I never heard about this club so I searched on google and seems that Pin Up is the former Fairy Club (in a small alley of soi buakhao). It's right?
Winchester and Rioja are still close?[/QUOTE]Yes it's Fairy Club just off Soi Buakhao.
I walked to Punch and Judy fairly quickly from Camel Toe so I assumed it was Jomtien as I believe Punch and Judy is considered to be in Jomtien.
I assumed Winchester and Rioja are still closed.
I also forgot Velvet Club on my list which is near Soi Full Love Inn.
Also, a club not sure if is is still open if is just off Soi Buakhao heading south just off Soi 15, the Soi that leads to the back portion of the Avenue, as soon as you approach Soi 15 to make a right there is a restaurant on the corner, just before that is a small entrance it is a small courtyard? The place is called 555.
Just finished a short time trip to Pattaya. Crammed a lot in 4 nights but my observations were that since my last visit in November that January was way too busy. Soi 6 was quiet during the days but the hunting was ok. Best bar was Pussy Club although the talent was still thin. Lisa Bar was a disappointment this trip. Did try Smokes and Kisses and found only one to my liking. The girls from Pussy Club were at least fun and could perform. Managed to alsp take one out for 2 hours back to my hotel were she really performed like a GF. Really the talent in Soi 6 was low. My wingman did take one from the Pussy Club that was a real PSE.
The gogos were largely hit and miss. Tried Ginza, Peppermint, Sensations, Sapphire and What's Up. By far the best was What's Up. Sapphire was a sausage fest and the ratio was all wrong. The other clubs had better ratio but the girls were average. What's Up and it had the best lookers and I did bar fine one who had a super body and pretty face. Performance did not match the looks. That said, still enjoyed being with her and performing a very long and wet DATY.
Visited Heaven G club and wow such a change from November. Only one girl there and the place was dead. Apparently all the girls have left and that spells doom I think.
Tried a few bars in LK Metro but did not see talent worth bar fine. Also went to iBar and Insomnia but way too busy and ratio wrong.
So all in all, the trip was fun but will stay away from Pattaya in January next time. Just too busy and way too many guys. Also noticed low number of good talent girls worth bar fine.
Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=Axiata;2134906]By far the best was What's Up. Sapphire was a sausage fest and the ratio was all wrong. The other clubs had better ratio but the girls were average. What's Up and it had the best lookers and I did bar fine one who had a super body and pretty face. Performance did not match the looks.[/QUOTE]Proven yet again? Spending more does not get you better. How can you tell how the chicks in What's Up look anyway with that damn blue light?
[QUOTE=Axiata;2134906]Also went to iBar and Insomnia but way too busy and ratio wrong.[/QUOTE]What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134637]The accomodations and the ammenities. Some G Clubs will have swimming pools, food, couches in the main area, and better rooms. A BJ bar will have bar stools, a pool table, and you can get your dick sucked at some in public or go to a crude room in the back or upstairs. I would say with most G Clubs the owner has put more money into it than a BJ bar.[/QUOTE]Given this criteria I would say the only G clubs in pattaya would be the den, kit cat, heavens, and Kinnaree.
I'll still wrongfully call them all G clubs.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134913]
What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.[/QUOTE]Exactly my thoughts.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2134913]Proven yet again? Spending more does not get you better. How can you tell how the chicks in What's Up look anyway with that damn blue light?
What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr E.
You are right. Looks are very subjective regardless of the light. My eye sight is not great at night but I did not really notice the blue lights in Whats Up. The girls looked good even with dodgy eyes.
What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.
Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=Axiata;2135367]What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.[/QUOTE]IMHO too many guys give too many women too much credit. They are not as clever as you make them out to be. Women are not sitting around thinking they are in high demand and that they can have any man that comes along and that any man will go to the ends of the earth for her. Women, and people in general, are very insecure. You can get any woman by not groveling over her and by playing on her insecurities. Act like she should be trying to get with you instead of you would do anything to get with her; especially when it comes to a hooker! One of my favorite lines to tell a chick is, "Don't miss your blessing." You can change her life, but what can she really do for you besides open her legs the same as any other woman can?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2135392] One of my favorite lines to tell a chick is, "Don't miss your blessing."[/QUOTE]What exactly do you mean with this?
I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.
IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.
I don't think you can simply state that one place or any type of girl is this or that (meaning a sure thing for a target objective, whatever that might be for a specific guy) . Some examples from my own observation over many months in Pattaya (but I am far from being any kind of expert so please take it FWIW):
1. There are beach road girls that do come to Insomnia or Ibar (but a lot more to say Lucifer or Red Car). Anyone who thinks that this is not the case is simply misinformed. Girls from massage places, beer bars, go gos, and regular girls (example , working at a hotel or even 7 Eleven) go to the discos (" to enjoy" their terminology) and are open to " going with man" , as they often refer to it.
Now, I don't know what the distribution looks like, but I would guess less than 10 pc (but that's still a lot of girls) are from beach Road. Girls have specifically said they have in the past been at beach Road when they need some money ASAP.
2. Not all girls at even the best go gos are what one would call go go material. As a matter of fact, based on my recent experience (which is very limited to say about 8 diff go gos in WS and LK Metro ), I would say a full 50 pc are VERY average, meaning a 6/6. 5 or below. Some are pretty poor lookers IMO. And yeah, this even applies to Imagine (what's up upper level). Maybe 20pc of a typical top quality go go , IMO, is worth bar fining.
So, yes there is a distribution of 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, a few 9's in all go gos.
Most places have a fixed bar fine, some have multiple levels, but still, even in each level not all girls are equivalent.
So, I would suggest not paying a steep bar fine for a 6 in a go go. And certainly don't pay 4 k.
There are 6. 5 's and the occasional 7 even avail at Insomnia for 2 K LT, and, if you are very lucky even a 7 at a beer bar. I was lucky enough in the last 8 days to bar fine four 7's from a beer bar for anywhere from 350-700 and 2 K LT. After a lot of time and work searching. I would suggest smaller beer bars in Jomtien and even Simon complex and others nearby on 2nd RD.
3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but age is not. IMO! The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine. Again, age distribution is all over the place at beer bars (so many 40 plus yo) and many go gos with 30 plus (do they need a boob job due to age and gravity). But one thing about the G clubs, like Kinnaree, they seem to have a better personality than the average girl at a top go go.
4. Young 8. 5 's and 9's are very few and are mostly at the go gos and a sprinkling at Insomnia, IMO. However, IMO, there is no denying that in those venues they do prefer Korea's and Japanese by a long shot. Money will not make a diffrence and chances are not under 8 K. At Insomnia many will simply do the hand together gesture and just turn away or say they are busy or thank you. So, yes, again there is a clear distribution in this sense that has become more pronounced in the last couple of years.
5. Yes, there is more demand than the supply of girls, at all venues. But as I (and Mr ENT) would note, you only need one (unless you are Sexmachine's wingman (who I now refer to as "2 IstheMinimum". So, the distribution is what it is. If when you are there, that one - that will fit your bill - is not there or unavailable to you, keep moving and keep looking. Somewhere along the line, the distribution curve, particularly at the right time of day, will make you lucky. But if you are here for 4-5 days then Soi 6, G clubs or go gos are your best options for point and click...but they are by and large, ST in premises options only (something I simply do not do ).
So, always be mindful of the distribution curve. Also, WS is now closing at 3-330 am, so one has to start early say by 1030 ( or in the case of some go gos by 830-9 as the older Korean and Japanese like to retire early with their barfine of the day.
But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2135450]What exactly do you mean with this?
I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.[/QUOTE]Why do you think they would not understand? A very common name for a Thai woman is Porn, which means blessing.
I mean do not let something that may be good for you slide by for whatever reason. But nobody is going to try to break down what you mean. Most of running game is talking slick and showing confidence.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2135452] Beauty is in the eye of the beholder[/QUOTE]I'll say this much though, the less the girl has on and is showing me what she has to offer, the higher my payout might be. The more clothing, the more I question the body, the lower I offer.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2135452]But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.[/QUOTE]We've been saying for several years that getting laid in BKK is work. A far cry from the days when it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I think long time residents like myself became quite spoiled in the late 90's early 00's.
Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.
Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.
Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.
Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.
Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.
Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.
Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.
Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.
Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.
On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2135763]Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.
Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.
Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.
Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.
Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.
Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.
Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.
Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.
Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.
On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?[/QUOTE]So, in summary: You hit 7 G Clubs this week and you were hard pressed to find a single G club with more than 1 young, under 25, cute girl (actual, not just looks under 25) ?
In other words, if a particular G club has more than 3 guys there already, the 4th person coming in is left with the rest? BTW, the lighting in Kinnaree is very good at hiding the age and true looks of the girls there.
Find me a girl who is even a 6 or 6. 5 , under 23 year old, in a beer bar, and I can transform that girl in under 1000 baht (new haircut / style, manicure, pedicure, new dress for 400 baht) into something pretty darn good that you will NOT find in a Kinnaree.
The point being, for those who have time, and are here for more than 4-5 days and are not under time pressure, you can find some that are like finding a house with ' good bones ' that you can spruce up with some paint and minor inexpensive improvements, IF you like them and are good for you, and keep them for several days so that you have a good return. Unless of course, you are the catch and release ST seeking guy.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2135586]We've been saying for several years that getting laid in BKK is work. A far cry from the days when it was like shooting fish in a barrel.[/QUOTE]Well I guess so when you got shit like this happening. Chick in Bangkok comes to stay with me for 1000 baht when she is in Pattaya. She said that in Bangkok guys are paying from 3000 - 5000 baht just for a chick to go to dinner with them.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2135763]Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.
Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.
Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.
Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.
Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.
Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.
Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.
Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.
Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.
On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?[/QUOTE]Awesome run down my friend!
Any news on the two new clubs that have opened up in Avenue mall (on the top level)?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2135814]Well I guess so when you got shit like this happening. Chick in Bangkok comes to stay with me for 1000 baht when she is in Pattaya. She said that in Bangkok guys are paying from 3000 - 5000 baht just for a chick to go to dinner with them.[/QUOTE]LOL. She didn't get the memo. She says, "Dubai, American" customers give her and other girls 3000-5000 baht and sometimes for doing nothing but have dinner. Apparently, even if they are lying (who knows in this case), many Thai P4P girls are unfamiliar with this popularly held notion that it is supposed to be the "Japanese" who are the low-demand over-payers in this grand show.
Just my two cents.
Just my opinion but regardless it won't change any of us. When it comes to pussy there is really no real logic to what people say or do? I've seen people of all professionals and I. Q. Try to justify why they do the things they do but in any normal situation wouldn't use the reasoning as they would for pussy. The reasoning is as old as the profession itself that is why I jokingly use and call Thailand, not the Land of Smile, but Land of Stupidity even the best smartest succumb.
All interesting and valid but reading present and in the past since this site and others started it is the same argument like a cheap suit it goes out of style then comes back never fails. Here is a simple example people talk about " beauty is in the eye of the beholder, another mans trash is another man treasure " etc etc then thereafter say and start up again and again about looks and price. It is as everyone have dementia or Alzheimer's the conversation is the same over and over again why? Why because we are talking about pussy!
As far as I'm concern once you put a number or label something you are stuck. She is a stunner? She is a 6. 5 7. 0? They got to be 19-23 years old? The ratio of men is greater than the women? Japanese / Koreans like a certain look Whites another or I can't compete? Too old too young? 500 or 1000 baht for Beach Road girls or ladies? They have HIV? 2000 baht you can only get trash? Pattaya isn't what it use to be not the same as my last trip?
Once you set a goal, have a list or criteria you are lost, it becomes harder to find! you are never satisfied.
Pussy, will drive you crazy and for some not too far off? Yes, it is becoming work because people have made it work as I cited above. Nothing personal but I visited a number of G-clubs and came away with a blank, but good report.
The reason guys in general don't like going shopping with girlfriend or wife is because it is too much damn WORK! They got to go into every store, touch everything on every single rack, reasoning for everything just like above, in the end hours wasted get back into the car out of the lot and bang bumper to bumper traffic now will miss the game I've been waiting all week to watch. Just makes you want to just stay home and be alone.
Personally, I glad I'm getting old and right now a bit tired as noted just too much work. Glad I'm not on vacation since time seem to just stand still, if I don't have it today I can have it tomorrow majority of the time I pass it is just too much work at times and I don't have any or all of the so call criteria's. These days go out and just keep it simple and if I draw a blank it is just a blank there is always tomorrow?
Just my 2 cents, nothing I have said is going to change anything it goes on just like the oldest profession. Enjoy and good luck fellas.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2135841]Just my two cents.
Just my 2 cents, nothing I have said is going to change anything it goes on just like the oldest profession. Enjoy and good luck fellas.[/QUOTE]Great read. For guys like me who have just discovered LOS, I understand why we go stupid. But we will eventually see through the BS.
I treat these things like the weather. I don't care what the weather forecast is (unless its a tornado, hurricane or some other disaster), I still get out of bed and try to have a bit of fun.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2135841]Just my two cents.
Just my opinion but regardless it won't change any of us. When it comes to pussy there is really no real logic to what people say or do? I've seen people of all professionals and I. Q. Try to justify why they do the things they do but in any normal situation wouldn't use the reasoning as they would for pussy. The reasoning is as old as the profession itself that is why I jokingly use and call Thailand, not the Land of Smile, but Land of Stupidity even the best smartest succumb.
Enjoy and good luck fellas.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you sir. Mongering is not work but a hobby we all share. It is not necessary that every time you will get to bang a chica of the specifications you like or the for the price you think is correct. Better to go with the flow and in the end enjoying this hobby is more important than all the looks and prices and services discussed over and over again. Afterall even the hookers are human. You win some, you lose some.
Hello guys,
I am from India (Delhi), visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for the first time (was really trying to visit it for a very long time). I have RTFF from December. I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]Hello guys,
I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).[/QUOTE]Rocky, what is holding you back from getting 2 individual rooms? Unless you guys are looking for orgies or an "Eiffel tower", I don't see the point. If a girl really liked you, it may be doable if you assure her it is just you doing the action and not a 2 for 1 special. But even then, wouldn't you want some privacy? I will say that my buddy and I joked with numerous girls that we brought back that we were sharing a room and they were cool with it, but they did let out a sigh of relief when we said we were just joking. If you want a memorable time, why limit your LT potential over a room that will likely cost pennies vs what you'll be spending?
-Lew.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
[/QUOTE]I suggest that you get separate rooms, trying to save money like that will ruin your holiday. Otherwise you will have to stick to ST and find a room nearby.
You will need to budget for hotel, transport to Pattaya but in addition to that plan on spending 6 K per day minimum and carry around about 10 K. 6 K - 10 K is a fair amount to spend each day on girls, drinks, food and transport, many days will be less but others may be more.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2135823]Any news on the two new clubs that have opened up in Avenue mall (on the top level)?[/QUOTE]No progress at all. Remember, this is Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mumbai Guy;2136246] Better to go with the flow and in the end enjoying this hobby is more important than all the looks and prices and services discussed over and over again. [/QUOTE]
Great advice. Pattaya is better appreciated if you just go with the flow. On many nights I may be thinking I'm heading somewhere only to end up at another place because I see a nice girl. I don't care if a girl is 500 baht on Beach Road, 1000 baht on Soi 6, or 3000 baht at a gogo, if she appeals to me I'll go for it.
[QUOTE=LewAshby;2136391]Rocky, what is holding you back from getting 2 individual rooms? Unless you guys are looking for orgies or an "Eiffel tower", I don't see the point. If a girl really liked you, it may be doable if you assure her it is just you doing the action and not a 2 for 1 special. But even then, wouldn't you want some privacy? I will say that my buddy and I joked with numerous girls that we brought back that we were sharing a room and they were cool with it, but they did let out a sigh of relief when we said we were just joking. If you want a memorable time, why limit your LT potential over a room that will likely cost pennies vs what you'll be spending?
-Lew.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Downandup;2136435]I suggest that you get separate rooms, trying to save money like that will ruin your holiday. Otherwise you will have to stick to ST and find a room nearby.
You will need to budget for hotel, transport to Pattaya but in addition to that plan on spending 6 K per day minimum and carry around about 10 K. 6 K - 10 K is a fair amount to spend each day on girls, drinks, food and transport, many days will be less but others may be more.[/QUOTE]Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks. I knew that we might not be able to bring a girl for LT before the booking (which I did day before yesterday) but I will be there in 4 days and prices of hotels were skyrocketing due to high season. My friend is not a monger like me and he wanted a good hotel to stay and so I had to book a good one (which raised my budget, I could have stayed in a hotel half that price if I were alone). I think I will have to do with the ST only with one of us being outside the hotel when the other one is in room with a girl. And also I think that we will take a cheap room for one night near our hotel for LT once. I am all ears for your suggestions.
And guys could you also suggest me some good areas or clubs to explore that are Indian friendly.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]... I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).[/QUOTE]Since you have been RTFF since December I think that you should have a pretty good idea of where to go etc for having fun during your one week in Pattaya. But nevertheless will I recommend Soi 6 as the number one place to go for having fun with the ladies. I think that you will love Soi 6 — I do myself every time that I go there. And you can also take girls LT but some bars will be more expensive than the others. Ask for prices and also of different prices; like some bars drop the bar fine during some time in the evenings.
And I agree with the others suggesting to take one more room, to stay in. I don't know why you are taking only a single room for you and your buddy, to save a few Baht I suppose. But if you really want to have fun in Pattaya and be able to go with some girls LT you will need a room for each of you. You ask if there is another way to take a girl LT but I don't know what that would be. You need another room, it is as simple as that. My suggestion is that you either ask the hotel that you are staying for one more room, or to simply walk around and find out about other hotels with vacancies close by. You will easily find something that will fit your needs.
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2136503]Since you have been RTFF since December I think that you should have a pretty good idea of where to go etc for having fun during your one week in Pattaya. But nevertheless will I recommend Soi 6 as the number one place to go for having fun with the ladies. I think that you will love Soi 6 I do myself every time that I go there. And you can also take girls LT but some bars will be more expensive than the others. Ask for prices and also of different prices; like some bars drop the bar fine during some time in the evenings.
And I agree with the others suggesting to take one more room, to stay in. I don't know why you are taking only a single room for you and your buddy, to save a few Baht I suppose. But if you really want to have fun in Pattaya and be able to go with some girls LT you will need a room for each of you. You ask if there is another way to take a girl LT but I don't know what that would be. You need another room, it is as simple as that. My suggestion is that you either ask the hotel that you are staying for one more room, or to simply walk around and find out about other hotels with vacancies close by. You will easily find something that will fit your needs.[/QUOTE]Bdonkadonk is absolutely right. Soi6 is a good place to pick up but you have to spend time and also have a bit of luck to find the good ones. Don't be shy. Walking back and forth along the short distance with girls on either sides can be unnerving for a newbie. And if you find someone you like just go start a conversation. You snooze, you lose.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]Hello guys,
I am from India (Delhi), visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for the first time (was really trying to visit it for a very long time). I have RTFF from December. I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).[/QUOTE]Listen to what others are saying and get another room. Mongering in Pattaya without a room for yourself spoils the whole purpose.
My only suggestion is not to be that guy who goes to a bar or club and not buy drinks.
If someone is insisting on a cover charge at the club's door with 1 free drink for indians it is for a reason as many enter and just sit there without buying anything.
Some clubs don't want us, but many still do. Don't make it harder for us by adding more clubs to the list that have a blanket ban. If you like what you see just get couple of drinks, relax and sooner or later you will find girls coming to you. Usually you will find the more attractive ones not showing much interest until you start buying lady drinks.
Don't waste your time going early to clubs like Raaz, they have agents all over WS to round up Indians like herds and get them inside as early as 8 pm or so in to an empty floor with pressure to buy a liter of beer for 1300 B or something like that.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]Hello guys,
I am from India (Delhi), visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for the first time (was really trying to visit it for a very long time). I have RTFF from December. I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).[/QUOTE]There is a separate thread that discusses in detail about the do's and don't's for Indian mongers. Suggest you read that as well.
Happy hunting and do share your experiences.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]Hello guys,
I am from India (Delhi), visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for the first time (was really trying to visit it for a very long time). I have RTFF from December. I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).[/QUOTE]You did not specify what sort of action you are looking for as your experience, when it comes to LOS, can vary significantly depending upon what you are after. Also, forget about two guys in one room. It is surely going to ruin it for you IMHO. You said the two of you would not be comfortable being in the same room with a girl. Dude! For a moment, spare a thought for that poor girl. If you have any specific query, use the PM facility so that others can answer. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2135865]Great read. For guys like me who have just discovered LOS, I understand why we go stupid. But we will eventually see through the BS.
I treat these things like the weather. I don't care what the weather forecast is (unless its a tornado, hurricane or some other disaster), I still get out of bed and try to have a bit of fun.[/QUOTE]" But we will eventually see through the BS " Although we are all different in many ways you be surprised that many don't see through the BS, or they ever will? Due to our differences it is always talk is cheap but the follow through isn't as easy for many of us for the fact we are just different. Many can see through the be. S. But there are enough guys that make it tough on all of us and those guys I called " charlie tuna " they are supposed to be street smart, read all the books of Thailand but I wonder if they comprehend the content and I'll be the first to tell you I'm not rocket scientist. Charlie Tuna comes in all shape and size but most of all they have all the best excuses or lines when you hear them I look around hoping no one heard it so they think I'm stupid too.
They fall for the same be. S. Every time the difference different day but same shit! In the end, they say they learn their lesson throw them back into the sea and when the line and sinker comes they are the first to bite! Sadly I have a few friends like this some are rick so they can take the hit, some are getting by nicely but their limited income is what prevents them from taking a gun and shooting themselves in the head.
Some get it some don't.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2136534]My only suggestion is not to be that guy who goes to a bar or club and not buy drinks.[/QUOTE]This applies not only to Indians but to Farang and Asians as well. It's irrelevant if you only plan on going to a specific bar once but believe me girls notice if you bought lady drinks for anyone from a previous visit.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2136595]It's irrelevant if you only plan on going to a specific bar once but believe me girls notice if you bought lady drinks for anyone from a previous visit.[/QUOTE]And then what? They won't let you bar fine them if you didn't buy any lady drinks on a previous visit? I thought one of the main reasons for mongering was that you didn't have to court chicks with meals/gifts/drinks/time, etc. You can just cut to the chase and get to fucking.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136369]Hello guys,
I am from India (Delhi), visiting Pattaya and Bangkok for the first time (was really trying to visit it for a very long time). I have RTFF from December. I get that the Indians do not have a good reputation there. Could you please suggest some of the best places to visit in pattaya for me as an Indian. I am young and want to explore as much as possible. Could you guys please suggest some places and the right time to visit them. I would be really thankful to you guys. I have contributed to the Delhi forum earlier many times. I hope to have a very memorable week there (Bangkok and Pattaya), starting in four days, that I would remember for a very long time.
P. S I am visiting with a male friend. We have taken a single room, so I think we wouldn't be able to bring a girl for LT. Our hotel is on soi 14, walking street. If there is a way to bring a girl for LT your suggestions are more than welcome (I think we wouldn't be comfortable if both of us are there in the same room with a girl).[/QUOTE]Booking a single room is a bad idea. Separate room for you and your buddy is absolutely necessary. If you tell a girl that you share a room with your buddy there is no way she is going with you to your room. You end up spending money on ST rooms which in the end will turn out to be more costly than booking separate rooms. Follow the advise of many here and don't act like a cheap charlie. Spend 8-10 K per day on food, drinks and girls and you will surely have a memorable trip. Dress in a decent manner. Shower as many times as you come back to your room or before going out. Use a good deodorant and treat the girls nicely. Be polite and always wear a smile on your face. Afterall you will be in the Land of Smiles. Enjoy and have a great time.
I was on Soi 6 again, when my animal instincts surprised me by choosing a 150 cm small and curvy girl; big butt, strong thighs and full tits. Soon we were in the room naked on the bed, where I received a good BBBJ. She was easy to arouse and we started in missionary. Maybe my animal instincts knew that before, but now I noticed her incredible control about her vagina muscles. In Haiti and the DomRep they call it Cocomordan: biting pussy in english. It feels like a strong grip or massage on your dick. I never had a woman before, who could do it with such perfection as this curvy girl. All I can say is that if you never had it, you definately missed something.
She could do it in missionary as well as in doggy and the view of her big butt in combination with Cocomordan gave me an explosive climax. One should trust the animal instincts once in a while.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2136608]I was on Soi 6 again, when my animal instincts surprised me by choosing a 150 cm small and curvy girl; big butt, strong thighs and full tits. Soon we were in the room naked on the bed, where I received a good BBBJ. She was easy to arouse and we started in missionary. Maybe my animal instincts knew that before, but now I noticed her incredible control about her vagina muscles. In Haiti and the DomRep they call it Cocomordan: biting pussy in english. It feels like a strong grip or massage on your dick. I never had a woman before, who could do it with such perfection as this curvy girl. All I can say is that if you never had it, you definately missed something.
She could do it in missionary as well as in doggy and the view of her big butt in combination with Cocomordan gave me an explosive climax. One should trust the animal instincts once in a while.[/QUOTE]I relate to you being surprised by your animal instincts. It happens to me quite often, and I learned to just trust it and go with the flow, very pleased so far.
In the US, we refer to what you describe above as "kegel control". The Korean chicks are notorious for their ability to control their kegel muscles and exert a tight grip on junior. I personally don't care much for it, as it does not enhance my enjoyment of the session, but many other folks swear by it.
Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.
Honey 2 massage at 5 pm. All girls showing tits and not much else. I'm just not into tits, silicon or otherwise. A girl can have wooden tits for all I care. 3000 bat, so-called VIP girls even more expensive at 3800 bat. Beds with mirrors stupidly positioned so that they reflect nothing of the action. CBJ only. Overpriced.
On to soi 6, where I took 2 girls at once. I resented their charging me double (600) just for the one room. Still, good session. One of the girls had an ugly face, with teeth braces like WWII tanks. She was a good responder, tight clenching pussy. I collected her Line ID for repeats.
Had a drink at Paradise a go go at 11 pm. Didn't have the impression that the girls there were a notch above what you can intercept in the streets at this time of night.
Stumbled upon a short African girl with a good ass on 2nd road opposite View Talay 6. Agreed on a ST tomorrow 11 am. I said let's agree on a rate. She replied 1000 bat for 1 hour. I had been prepared to accept, indeed to suggest 2000. Good thing I provoked her into talking 1st.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136699]Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.[/QUOTE]Good decision to get another room, so that you will have a room for the each of you. On my last trip I got to know three Indian guys that actually were staying altogether in one room and I remember what kind of problems they were facing when they wanted to take back girls to their room. It was impossible because their buddies were there in the room and how fun could that have been?
I can't answer all of your questions but at least can say something and others can fill in the remaining answers. I don't know about hotels close by to where you already booked but it shouldn't be a problem to just walk around in the area and step in to whatever hotels that will show up, and ask of prices and availability. I think that you should be able to find something by doing that.
Personally I don't go to the Go Go clubs (those in Walking Street) because I am too happy to get girls from Soi 6 or some other (beer) bars. And actually I never pay exact attention of how much a lady drink is in Soi 6 for example, because I know that it will be reasonable anyway. If I find a girl attractive I always pay for a LD to get some time to sit with her for a while and it is a good idea that you are prepared to do the same. I think lady drinks in Soi 6 bars are something like 130 - 180 Baht, more or less. But you can ask first of course so you know how much it will be.
There are a few bars in Soi 6 that have higher prices and I don't know the names of all those bars buy I know that Scooters and Wet Six Club are more expensive than the others. But in general, and I would say for 95% of the Soi 6 bars, prices are more or less the same and very affordable. About 95% of Soi 6 bars have short time rooms upstairs too (Scooters and Wet Six Club don't have rooms on the premises).
And about not drinking alcohol in bars: I can tell you that it won't be a problem at all. Personally I like to be sober when being with the girls so I most of the time drink water and it is always fine of course. Do your thing and drink whatever you want and it will be just fine!
[QUOTE=XXL;2136753]
On to soi 6, where I took 2 girls at once. I resented their charging me double (600) just for the one room.[/QUOTE]This is normal in every short time bars around the town. I had plenty of threesome in soi6 (different bars), club4, kinnaree, 007, and some bars in the Darkside and always charged a double room. If you take 3 girls you will be pay the room x3. Once in the darkside I took 5 girls and I had to pay room x5.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136484]Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks. I knew that we might not be able to bring a girl for LT before the booking (which I did day before yesterday) but I will be there in 4 days and prices of hotels were skyrocketing due to high season. My friend is not a monger like me and he wanted a good hotel to stay and so I had to book a good one (which raised my budget, I could have stayed in a hotel half that price if I were alone). I think I will have to do with the ST only with one of us being outside the hotel when the other one is in room with a girl. And also I think that we will take a cheap room for one night near our hotel for LT once. I am all ears for your suggestions.
And guys could you also suggest me some good areas or clubs to explore that are Indian friendly.[/QUOTE]This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.
How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?
My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.
[QUOTE=NRock;2136831]This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.
How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?
My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.[/QUOTE]Hey bro,
I said that I won't drink alcohol because I haven't drank alcohol earlier in my entire life. And I never said that I won't buy ladies drink in fact I made it clear in my earlier posts that I will buy ladies drink.
And I should also clear that I an not going there just to monger but also to visit different tourist attractions.
I know that my budget is a lot less than it should be but I think that it will motivate me to explore more of the city and I find more interest in exploring rather than just banging the chicks. As said earlier, chase is better than the catch, at least in my opinion. And thanks for the insightful information.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136699]Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.[/QUOTE]I can't help you with hotels near walking street.
So far the advice you have received is excellent.
As far as drinks are concerned, I understand that you don't drink alcohol, but you have to understand that the bars / gogos / discos make money from selling drinks. It is good that you are willing to buy the girls drinks. If you are good with buying drinks, then you should be able to get away with buying a water or two. Again, the bars make money by selling drinks, so if you are in a place for 3 hours and buy 1 drink, that is not good for the bar.
You are going to face racism because you are Indian, so be prepared. I have seen girls in gogos refuse to even accept a drink from an Indian guy.
Good luck.
Hi guys,
This is my first FR and after RTFF for quite some time, it was a big help to understand how things work in Pattaya.
Coming to the scouting report.
Reached LOS in the morning and straight bus to Pattaya. Checked in at hotel. Needed a sure shot session so headed to Sabai Dee at 1530 hrs and the talent was pretty much there since I went in early.
Chose girl #159 and she didn't disappoint. 3 k+tip for the soapie. She was really pretty and the figure top notch!
Moving on, scouted through Soi 6 after that but jonny was a bit tired after that amazing session so didn't enter any.
Realized that Soi 6 is full of talent only till 8 pm because then you will see all the talent with some other guy.
Scouted through WS agogos next:
BananaBoi's scouting list helped me through:
Baccara: They kept telling me its for members. Probably no entry for me since I'm Indian.
Palace: Same as above. They kept saying it's full.
Sensations: A lot of girls but hardly any stunners. They were all in their early 20's and demanded 3 k for FS ST but only HJ. Declined on the spot.
Sapphire: There were quite a few stunners. I bought drinks for many but they told me that they are not free tonight since its a Saturday. Rate was 3 k for ST FS+BBBJ.
Barfine was 1.5 k for the above agogos.
I decided to go off Agogos after that.
Went to Soi 6 again but the bars were closing and the girls had found their LT. I took a Baht bus again and reached WS. BR FLs were pretty much there and some looked good. Maybe hit up few in the next few days.
Tried few Indian clubs. If you are an Indian, the club punters swarm you a lot but make sure you go only to Nasha because that has a lot of girls. I entered there and boy, there was a lot of talent but mostly taken.
The night went more on scouting so didn't try barfining. Maybe will do today at Sapphire.
In the end, since this is my first time in Patts. Watched that sex show in Playgirl, had dinner and then back to room.
I feel that starting late on a Saturday night was the biggest mistake. I'll start early from today.
More for tomorrow cya!
[QUOTE=NRock;2136831]10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there.[/QUOTE]Maybe Mr. E will volunteer his services to take a couple of Indian guys around?
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136699]Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. [/QUOTE]
No problem not drinking alcohol in gogo bars. Your drink will cost around 90 to 185 baht for a non-alcoholic drink and a lady drink will range from 150 to 215 baht, depending on the bar. with a 1600 baht budget per day you can see your money will not last long at all in gogo bars. Gogo bars are not cheap which is why most ISG members do not go to them often, if at all.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2136595]This applies not only to Indians but to Farang and Asians as well. It's irrelevant if you only plan on going to a specific bar once but believe me girls notice if you bought lady drinks for anyone from a previous visit.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, I would submit that if you are a guy (like many older golfer type Koreans or just any fun guy) who buys multiple girls drinks and has done that on prior occasion (s) at the same go go bar, the positive attention that behavior gets is likely to be stored in a specific section of the brain's cortex vs. A poor single lonely guy who walks in, has one drink and leaves after 30 minutes. This other guy is not memorable and boring and that memory is stored in different sections of the brain because that memory has no specific associative power, since it has no 'value' . Additionally, if there are 20-30 girls in a go go bar on any specific night and say 100-150 guys are coming and going, not ALL the 20-30 girls will too remember or even try to remember EVERY single guy (50-150 of them) in that one single day who DID NOT buy a drink. It's just much associative memory overload, particularly when a girl has worked in that go go for weeks or months. BUT it is easier to recall positive memories when it is reinforced (memory overlays) multiple times by the same person or a specific ethnic group. That is how the brain receives, stores and organizes information in various DIFFERENT memory centers of the brain. Positive experiences, negative experiences, neutral experiences etc are all stored in different sections of the brain and with different " associations ". And this results in different measures of aided and unaided recall and no two girls memories will be just as good.
Finally, if you are a guy who has been to a specific go go, say 3 times in a week, and not bought a girl a drink those times but enter a fourth time AND buy a girl a drink within say the first 5-10 minutes, all those prior memories (if any and I submit very weak recall) will be overridden by the brand new here and now memory. And, to top it all, if on the 4th visit, you also barfine a girl (vs that another guy who bought 12 drinks for 4 different girls but never bar fined a single one of them, you on the 4th visit after you barfined a girl are likely to be remembered by the girls (not all of them to be sure) and the memories of the 3 earlier visits whisked away into the far reaches of the memory as unimportant vs the newer memory. That is just how the neuroscience of the brain works. Positive experiences are stored in better / different memory areas and unimportant stuff that happens all the time is dismissed into the far reaches or sections of the.
Brain where the organization, associative linkages and neuronal recall iis poor and inefficient.
I know this is more than you bargained for BB, but this stuff is true and valid empirical based scientific fact.
Neither the go go girls nor any other average human is gonna remember everything UNLESS it is memorable and has “ associative value “. They are not gonna remember ALL the guys who did NOT buy drinks. But they are much more likely to remember the guys who bought LOTS of drinks or bar fined ANY girl there in the recent past. All a guy has to do on the 3rd or 4 th time, is buy a girl a drink within the first 5-10minutes and / or bar fine a girl from there and you are much more likely to be remembered by the girls there. These other guys who did NOT buy drinks is unimportant stuff and has very low associative value for the brain. It does its thing without any of us having any clue at all and we have very little control over how memories are stored, organized and recalled based on a number of factors that our non-conscious brain ( not the same thing as unconscious or conscious) takes into consideration.
Yes, my man, I like to study stuff and a very huge part of my travels is to observe and analyze and learn about all kinds of stuff about the brain, consciousness and neuroscience ... and more crap than 99.999999 % of the humans ever do. Lol
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2136910]Maybe Mr. E will volunteer his services to take a couple of Indian guys around?
No problem not drinking alcohol in gogo bars. Your drink will cost around 90 to 185 baht for a non-alcoholic drink and a lady drink will range from 150 to 215 baht, depending on the bar. with a 1600 baht budget per day you can see your money will not last long at all in gogo bars. Gogo bars are not cheap which is why most ISG members do not go to them often, if at all.[/QUOTE]For ST there are girls at beer bars you can find for say 500 bar fine, plus 1000ST, plus another min 500 baht for drinks and to have time to chat and build some kind of rapport. So, a min of 2000ST at a beer bar and about 3000 LT. But quality is all over the map at the beer bars and good looking young ones are slim pickings requiring a heck of a lot of time and work.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136484]Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks. I knew that we might not be able to bring a girl for LT before the booking (which I did day before yesterday) but I will be there in 4 days and prices of hotels were skyrocketing due to high season ...[/QUOTE]I missed this post in the past. I see that you are on a very limited budget for the girls and I doubt that you will be able to take a girl every day in Thailand with that budget and you can definitely forget about Go Go bars. My recommendation for Soi 6 still stands but you won't be able to take any girls long time from Soi 6 but you can afford a few short times there.
You say that you don't drink but you are at least expected to get something, like a water, in a bar. That will be around 60 Baht and say that a lady drink is 160 so it comes to 220 Baht. 300 - 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. Around 1600 Baht for taking a girl there short time.
I am not very aware of hotel prices and it is true that now is high season but there will always be cheaper places to be found. Actually a friend of mine was thinking of coming here too, and soon, and he said that he wanted to pay 500 Baht and not more for a hotel (coincidentally he is also Indian). He asked me if I could check for some place for him and I did and I found a small guesthouse here in Jomtien where I live and it is 500 Baht a night. It's a separate room and it has shower, air con, TV and that is about what you need for a few days. Location is excellent in Jomtien just where the road turns to the beach and on the Baht bus route where you will reach Pattaya and Walking street in 10 minutes. I am just mentioning this as an example that it definitely is possible to find a cheap room if you just look around a little.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2136779]This is normal in every short time bars around the town. I had plenty of threesome in soi6 (different bars), club4, kinnaree, 007, and some bars in the Darkside and always charged a double room. If you take 3 girls you will be pay the room x3. Once in the darkside I took 5 girls and I had to pay room x5.[/QUOTE]5 girls?
Outstanding work!
Do you have a detailed report of this romp?
I'm extremely keen for a 15 digit (what I refer to as) typewriter experience. IE: Five girls in the doggy position lined up side by side. I then move from hole to hole up and down the line until and then repeat until I cum.
I have done the typewriter several times but only with three girls.
For the record (no pun intended) Don Henley according to rumor is also an aficionado of this maneuver and helped himself to a 15 working girl typewriter at Heidi Fliess's establishment.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136699]Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rocky2300]hey bro, read all your reports from a month back and really liked your style of writing reports. I believe from your reports that you have quite a lot of knowledge about Bangkok and Pattaya and a very good repo too. I am visiting Pattaya and bangkok on 7th february . Could you please help me out in bangkok ( i will be in bangkok from ( 10-12 ) or if you want we could monger together for a day or two either in bangkok or pattaya.
My budget is a little on the low side , about 10000 baht for my whole stay for mongering . And i want to explore as much as possible. Would love to monger with you for a day or two.
I am visiting with a male friend and we are from India .
I hope you will help us by at least sharing your knowledge . And i would also love to know more about your expedition to Thermae,devils den and Angel witch all rolled into one place.
Rocky2300[/QUOTE]I guess if a lost soul reaches out for a little help, Monkeypaw can assist a bit. Can't promise I can hang with you because I have a reputation to keep. Go Go bars both BKK and Pattaya, I am so well known, that if another ISG member embarrasses themselves or me, I usually have them kicked out. One time, out of being nice, an Indian member on this board PMed me about helping him get access into Palace and other bars on Walking Street. I met up with him and when they stopped him at the door, I gave the security nod, so they let him inside. When we took our seats, he didn't want to order a drink, but wanted to look for a few minutes. Not even a soda or water was ordered, then the waitress looked at me in confusion. I looked at the both of them and said, "I don't know this guy!" She said we thought he was with you? I said, "Nope, throw his ass out. I was saying Hello, to security with my nod. " So if your habits aren't like mine. We won't be able to hang. I don't drink much alcohol but do buy drinks and shots for the girls. I tip my waitresses well. I don't grope on girls or try to kiss them in bars. And I pay at least the standard going rate for the girl, no haggling down. Sometimes I pay more if it's a premium girl that just doesn't go with anyone. And always tip mamasan if she helps you select a girl. This is the Monkeypaw code for mongering in Go Go bars. This what makes me loved by these girls and #1. Don't forget to tip them when they perform and pay their taxi back always, when they travel to your hotel.
You won't be able to catch in BKK anymore, because on the 6th, I'll be in Pattaya. As for your 10 days, 10,000 baht. That's not really my type of budget for fun. You are talking to somebody who spent 70,000 on just one night in Walking Street just at the Go Go bars, ended up not even getting a girl because I was so drunk, and had to walk back to my room in the rain because I had no taxi money. But it was a very memorable night, indeed.
But you seem really lost, so I'll help you out a bit with some sound Monkeypaw advice. It's okay, I'm the expert at crap like this. I think you know already.
1. No need to book another room, just yet. When you check into your hotel, ONLY you check in. Have your friend go wait some where else. And chill. You booked a room for 2, and only 1 person checks in. Tell reception, your buddy didn't make the trip and it's just you. Request two key cards still. If they only give you one, that's fine too. Officially, your room will booked for 2, but only 1 guest arrived, no joiner fee when a girl is brought back. These hotels don't know all their guests faces and remember there are usually 2 shifts (day / night) working. You take your buddy's luggage along with yours and bring it in to the room. Later, you go meet him to give him his key card and room number. Never walk in the lobby together with your buddy. They will not know who stays in that room anyways. The MOST important thing is only you check in for this to work, not two people.
2. With the girls, it's easy now. But you can only have one girl in the room, and only he or you can be in the room as well. No Indian orgy, foursome crap can be going on in that room or you will get caught. You have to share the room. If you find a girl, you can take her to your room no problem. Take her to reception, they will ask room number and ID. Your buddy can wait outside somewhere. There are plenty on Indian food in the area. He can get some samosa or masala and enjoy the view. When he finds a girl, he goes to your room alone with your key. He will tell her the hotel name and room number and your name. He will go wait in your room. 5 minutes later, she will go to your hotel, tell reception YOUR name, and the room number. They will call in your room, and your buddy will "OK' her to come up. Reception doesn't know who they are talking to when they call into the room. Got it?
3. You can possibly have a threesome if you and your buddy don't mind sharing a girl. I see why'all holding hands all the time on Walking Street, so I'm sure two guys rubbing naked up against a single Thai girl with some incidental touching shouldn't be an issue. Both of you find a girl outside, your friend goes wait in the room. No need to stop at reception. He leaves door unlock. 5 minutes later, you come with the girl. Leave her ID with reception. And walk with her to your room with the door unlocked and your buddy already naked. Then the both you can roll her around a flatten. If you get the itch late at night, you guys can find girls or maybe something else on WeChat. Just have them come up to your room. They only need your name and room number. But do tell the girl that there is another guy there. Some girls will bang two guys, no issue. Can't reiterate enough, that this only works with 1 person checking in, so make sure that's done.
Your best bet is Beach Road freelancers that have all their teeth that run 1000-1500. Go go bars are at least 300 for drinks (even with just water or soda), 1000-2000 for barfine, and 2500-3000 minimum for the girl for short. They are still the highest quality in looks besides LK Metro. You get to see the merchandise before you order. Everywhere else, you are gambling. Soi 6 is so so in talent. Most are overweight, look like hoodrats that once belong to some Esaan Thai street gang or something. Girls are 1000, room and drinks add another 500. It comes down to what you really want to remember about your trip. I can come to Thailand and fuck 10 below average, ugly street girls and pay my hard earned money doing so. To me that is pretty stupid. I can do that in my own country for free. I'm not a unattractive guy. Can't speak for everyone on here and I don't know their story. But I rather go try to find that 1, 2, or 3 girl that I really really want. Quality over quantity. I want to remember the faces and bodies of these girls. I would pay more for that. Remember, the hunt in itself is the best part. Reward yourself with the girl you want, not the budget you set for just any girl. If you want to meet up still in Pattaya, I can get you into any and all the Go Go bars. You have to buy at least 1 drink (non-alcohol is okay), looking at the girls is just as fun. If you are okay with the drink, send me your email or contact via private message. - MP.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136484]Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks.[/QUOTE]No brainer. Hit the disco and get a club soda. Get a chick for 1000 LT. Easy peasy. This chick got here at 11 pm last night and now it is after 2 pm and she is still here. 1000 baht. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. Fuck with me and you will have money left over to take back home.
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2136932]My recommendation for Soi 6 still stands but you won't be able to take any girls long time from Soi 6 but you can afford a few short times there.
You say that you don't drink but you are at least expected to get something, like a water, in a bar. That will be around 60 Baht and say that a lady drink is 160 so it comes to 220 Baht. 300 - 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. Around 1600 Baht for taking a girl there short time.
[/QUOTE]Why do you have to buy drinks? When you go to a restaurant do you have to buy appetizers? You can go to any place on Soi 6 and point at any chick and say let's go upstairs. The room is 350. Tell the girl 700 for her. 1050 all in. He could get 4 girls and a meal to eat after each one for every 3 girls that you get.
Or you can go around closing time and find a chick. Pay the barfine (if the chick is cool she will just come to you after work without a barfine) and tell her 1000 LT for her.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2136955]Why do you have to buy drinks? When you go to a restaurant do you have to buy appetizers? You can go to any place on Soi 6 and point at any chick and say let's go upstairs. The room is 350. Tell the girl 700 for her. 1050 all in. He could get 4 girls and a meal to eat after each one for every 3 girls that you get.
Or you can go around closing time and find a chick. Pay the barfine (if the chick is cool she will just come to you after work without a barfine) and tell her 1000 LT for her.[/QUOTE]Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is. It will make it more easy to decide if I want to go with her upstairs or not. And sometimes I will find out that I don't want to go upstairs with the girl, for various reasons, and I just move on.
Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.
Haven, my comment was based on my own experiences in gogo bars, FKK clubs, and many strip clubs around the world so my sample size is likely fairly large. I know what I see on how girls at specific bars perceive me. It's most obviously noticed in FKK clubs. In Pattaya, there are still many gogo bars where I have never bought a lady drink for anyone. In those bars, I do not get tons of smiles from girls who recognize me like I would in a gogo bar where they know I may buy a random girl an occasional lady drink.
Maybe I will perform my own scientific studies when some of my friends come to town. Will hit the same gogo bars on consecutive multiple nights and see if the person buying a lady drink for a different girl each night gets more attention than the guy who never buys drinks.
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2136963]Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is. It will make it more easy to decide if I want to go with her upstairs or not. And sometimes I will find out that I don't want to go upstairs with the girl, for various reasons, and I just move on.
Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.[/QUOTE]I agree. I would rather dish out a bit of cash and get a lady drink to "interview" the girl first. Last week, I rejected a decent looking girl who grabbed me to sit with her at Ruby Bar. She was such a dud and failed her interview so bad that I left her before 1/3 of her drink was even finished. Imagine if I went to a room with her? I likely wouldn't have made it through our shower together. Walked by her again yesterday afternoon and she gave me a dirty look!
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2136963]Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is.
Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.[/QUOTE]Usually you can sit there and dick around with them all day without buying them a drink. They really don't have shit else to do (if it is not a really busy place - and if it is, then she is going to be gone right after the drink is finished anyway).
The times that I do buy a chick a drink, I do it after she has been sitting with me screwing around for a while. That way I know whether she is there because "she wants to" and not because I used a "carrot on a stick" by buying the drink for her. In other words, I use drinks as a reward instead of a preward. I don't want to waste my money (as little as it may be) on someone I might be rejecting.
[QUOTE=NRock;2136831]This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.
How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?
My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.[/QUOTE]8-10 K per day is a good enough budget for food+drinks and mongering in Pattaya. Maybe not enough in Bangkok. You can definitely have 2 STs + 1 LT in that budget in Pattaya. Banging 3 girls a day is a decent average for a mongering trip of a few days.
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2137009]8-10 K per day is a good enough budget for food+drinks and mongering in Pattaya. Maybe not enough in Bangkok. You can definitely have 2 STs + 1 LT in that budget in Pattaya. Banging 3 girls a day is a decent average for a mongering trip of a few days.[/QUOTE]I think that Rocky has $8 - 10 K for 4 days. Not $8-10 K / day.
Devils Den was still on my to-do list, so I went over to try it out. About 7 girls to choose from on the early evening. As always: pictures on their website [URL]www.devilsdenthailand.com[/URL] look better than the original. I selected Som and let her choose the third person.
The whole procedure started with the ritual showercleaning and then on the bed with mirrors on the walls and ceiling, so you can watch yourself from multiple perspectives. The girls were friendly and pleasing, but somewhat mechanical like in the soapies. BBBJ from both and intercourse with both of them, changing condoms in between. I finished with BBBJ.
My weapon was still aimed at the target after the first pop; but at my age, reloading for the second shot is out of the given time frame. So when you are a fast reloader go ahead and make the most out of it. If not, maybe find a more costfriendly way for a threesome.
[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2137018]I think that Rocky has $8 - 10 K for 4 days. Not $8-10 K / day.[/QUOTE]If that is so then I would suggest he stays where he is and forget about his trip to Pattaya. A total of 8-10 K for 4 days is just enough for his food and drinks + hotel stay.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136484] I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2137018]I think that Rocky has $8 - 10 K for 4 days. Not $8-10 K / day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2137066]If that is so then I would suggest he stays where he is and forget about his trip to Pattaya. A total of 8-10 K for 4 days is just enough for his food and drinks + hotel stay.[/QUOTE]Guys, please read carefully before give a wrong suggestion, he has max 10 k for 5 days for GIRLS. So this is 2 k a day to spend on monger activity and he know this is a low budget. Anyway he will be fine with soi 6, beach road, Thaifriendly, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, etc. He could also shag 2 girls a day.
[QUOTE=Rocky2300;2136699] Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. .[/QUOTE]No problem at all, feel free to order whatever you like: coke, sprite, orange juice, lemon tea, etc. Up to you.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2137082]Guys, please read carefully before give a wrong suggestion, he has max 10 k for 5 days for GIRLS. So this is 2 k a day to spend on monger activity and he know this is a low budget. Anyway he will be fine with soi 6, beach road, Thaifriendly, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, etc. He could also shag 2 girls a day.
No problem at all, feel free to order whatever you like: coke, sprite, orange juice, lemon tea, etc. Up to you.[/QUOTE]Good point. But you have to be clear. In every town, in every city in every country I have been to, some people think that bars / clubs / gogo bars / strip clubs (that don't have a cover charge) are happy with customers who come in and sit down for 2 - 6 hours and just order one drink.
A regular customer is in a different category. Random guys (no matter their race, religion or color) who wander into a bar and don't' buy a drink an hour or barfine a girl are a waste of time and resources for the bar. Unfortunately, Indians have the stereo type of being cheap, so Rocky is going to have to deal with that issue. We all know that there are many girls who have tiered pricing structure, and many of us know that the girls will typically quote Indian guys higher prices. Girls also quote older guys, fat guys, ugly guys higher prices. It is what it is.
You are 100% correct that Rocky can easily have a great time on a $2 k budget for girls. But again, you have to be clear. If Rocky wants 20 year old who are 8/10+, that budget is not going to work. If Rocky goes to Gogo clubs and wants to barfine a girl, that budget is not going to work (if he wants to.
Have a different girl each night). Etc. Etc.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2137082]Guys, please read carefully before give a wrong suggestion, he has max 10 k for 5 days for GIRLS. So this is 2 k a day to spend on monger activity and he know this is a low budget. Anyway he will be fine with soi 6, beach road, Thaifriendly, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, etc. He could also shag 2 girls a day.
No problem at all, feel free to order whatever you like: coke, sprite, orange juice, lemon tea, etc. Up to you.[/QUOTE]Given the ST rates at 1000 plus a BF and a few drinks, it is just about for one girl a day. Even in a MP in soi chaiyapoon.
That would be bearable for most, tho'.
It's ok, still it is tight and doesn't leave much space to fantasies.
Due to the woeful level of talent on Beach Rd I have started to progress to Soi 6. However I am somewhat confused about the room pricing which seems to vary from place to place even though the price for a chick seems to be constant at 1000 baht.
For the rooms I have been quoted 350 baht twice, 400 baht once, and 300 baht twice. I am very wary about being ripped-off for anything in Thailand, so I am wondering if the quotes above 300 baht are designed to rip-off unsuspecting punters? Or are there in fact different price levels for rooms between the separate bars?
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2137107]Given the ST rates at 1000 plus a BF and a few drinks, it is just about for one girl a day. Even in a MP in soi chaiyapoon.[/QUOTE]Who seeks finds, he can have ST with less than 1000 in beach road. In soi chaiyapoon is normal to pay 1000 all in for ST.
[QUOTE=Franga;2137114]
For the rooms I have been quoted 350 baht twice, 400 baht once, and 300 baht twice. I am very wary about being ripped-off for anything in Thailand, so I am wondering if the quotes above 300 baht are designed to rip-off unsuspecting punters? Or are there in fact different price levels for rooms between the separate bars?[/QUOTE]It's already some years that some bars raise their room price to 350 and with the new year all Nightwish Group Bars raise their room price to 400 baht.
Thank you all for helping me by sharing your knowledge. I will definitely keep in mind all your tips while exploring Thailand and I will try to make most of with what I can afford to loose there. And it will be a great pleasure for me if some fellow monger would like to join me for a day or two for exploring. I will be in Pattaya from 7-9 February and in Bangkok from 10-12 . If someone wants to monger together with me he can contact me via PM or we can chat via e-mail and decide the venue.
Thank you everyone once again.
Rocky2300.
[QUOTE=Franga;2137114]Due to the woeful level of talent on Beach Rd I have started to progress to Soi 6. However I am somewhat confused about the room pricing which seems to vary from place to place even though the price for a chick seems to be constant at 1000 baht.
For the rooms I have been quoted 350 baht twice, 400 baht once, and 300 baht twice. I am very wary about being ripped-off for anything in Thailand, so I am wondering if the quotes above 300 baht are designed to rip-off unsuspecting punters? Or are there in fact different price levels for rooms between the separate bars?[/QUOTE]The standard price is 300 to 350. You would not be getting ripped off with either price. The price for the room on Soi 6 is not necessarily related to the quality of the room. A few bars have some really nice ST rooms, thought most have pathetic rooms with a bed covered with a sheet that hasn't been washed since who knows when, and with a communal shower where people across the street can see you naked. If one has a germ phobia, either avoid Soi 6 or BF the girl back to your hotel!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2136993]In other words, I use drinks as a reward instead of a preward. I don't want to waste my money (as little as it may be) on someone I might be rejecting.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with the master. I DO buy myself a cold beverage at most every club I enter (unless I immediately see the club is a dude and I immediately walk out), but I will not buy a lady drink until the girl has set with me and talked for a bit and, only then if I find her interesting. Yeah, many of us are nice guys and we give in, but this is our vacation and we don't want to spend time with selfish girls who impose on us, right? So, just say "not right now". They will soon move on.
I am the same with tips. If the girl provides a basic service, I only pay the fee. The girls are all independent contractors so I pay the fee we agree on, but will only tip if they went above and beyond. So, if on Soi 6, she commits to providing me with BBBJ and CFS for 1000, and if she does that, I give her the 1000. If she is a starfish, I will pay that, as there was no agreement that she do anymore than provides the means for me to get off via said BJ or FS. Now, if she provides a GFE or PSE, then I will tip her accordingly. One girl was so awesome I tipped her 50%, and she thereafter gave incredible service worth every penny.
The point is to pay a girl what you both agree to. Only pay more if she deserves more. And to buy a drink for a girl who has done nothing to earn it is not right. Girls that expect you to buy them things they haven't earned probably won't provide a good experience in bed. Make them earn it and appreciate it.
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2137066]If that is so then I would suggest he stays where he is and forget about his trip to Pattaya. A total of 8-10 K for 4 days is just enough for his food and drinks + hotel stay.[/QUOTE]Ever hear the term 'going native'? I speak Thai and 4 months ago I had a simple room for 35 days for B12000 including power and water. You just need to tolerate other than 5* quality. Usually just the two * - you could also get a cheap apartment for about B4500/ month. Spartan and not close to the beach.
Food was about 300/ day.
Since Day 1 was all about Sabai Dee and WS, moved on to Soi 6 in the afternoon.
Day 2:
Hopped around and settled at Horny Bar. Picked up a girl for 1000ST + 400 for the room.
Decent experience. DFK+BBBJ but the GFE was missing somewhere.
Explored BR. Some good ones near Mike Shopping Mall. Didn't approach any because had some plans of my own.
Reached LK at around 10 pm.
Touch didn't allow me becuase I'm Indian.
Entered Paradise and damn!
Felt like I hit jackpot. Picked up a girl after barfine for LT.
The girl was awesome. 4 shots till 5 am. DFK+BBBJ+GFE. I don't remember the tag # but she was not Thai. This might help for the fellow ISG members.
Barfine 1500+ 3000 LT.
Day 3:
Went to Devil's Den. Booked 2 girls for the usual 4000.
I just wanted a threesome experience. It was okayish.
I chose Cory and I told her to choose the other one. She chose Wan.
Wan was very good in BBBJ while Cory had nice lemons.
2 shots. It is very mechanical like soapie so WIR? Nope.
I was exploring this crazy city for the first time at night so no further encounters. Just beer bar hopping and talking to different people.
I head to Bangkok today for more action. Thanks a lot guys for all the help. I had a memorable trip.
I was told by Father, I needed to be kind, share, and spread our wealth to all the needy. So my first night in Pattaya, I decided to do some charity work on Soi 6. Personally I don't find 98% of the girls on Soi 6 attractive. In 6 years and the hundreds of Thai girls I've been with. Only maybe 6 came from Soi 6 bars. Half of them from Dolls A Go Go. By the way, they have a Facebook page you can look at to check out the talent before wasting time or money on drinks. So anyways, I picked a random bar last night. Not even sure what the name was. I tolerated the "cat calling" by the girls and took a seat with a view of the dirty street.
It was around 7 pm and the bar had about 15 girls working. I sat alone, rang the bell 3 rounds, bought all the girls a drink. When the dress vendors came by, I bought dresses for all the girls in that bar and for the bars to the right and left of the bar I was sitting in. Fat girls where out of luck. The vendors didn't have any their size. The whole time I didn't want any particular girl to sit by me. None were worthy looks wise. Most resemble what I would consider hood rats formerly belonging to an Esaan street gang. I then bought them all ice cream as their reward for knowing better than trying to touch or sit with me. I love it when I walk into a bar or club and they ugly girls are scared to even approach me. They know I'm out of their league. The hotter ones, then try to send one of their ugly friends to suggest I talk their the hot one. But mamasan always knows which ones I can play with. They bring the best to me all the time. Then the game begins.
Anyways total damage at Soi 6 was about a little over 10,000 baht. I only had a Diet Coke and no girl for me. Dad wants charity, I do charity. Faces blurred so you won't get frightened.
I saw where some of the locals live and in some cases, it is not too bad. Most important is clean. The smell of sewer is something that I cannot put up with. Out of curiosity, how much were the girls or were you getting freebies?
[QUOTE=Dinghy;2137452]Ever hear the term 'going native'? I speak Thai and 4 months ago I had a simple room for 35 days for B12000 including power and water. You just need to tolerate other than 5* quality. Usually just the two * - you could also get a cheap apartment for about B4500/ month. Spartan and not close to the beach.
Food was about 300/ day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2137673]I only had a Diet Coke and no girl for me. Dad wants charity, I do charity. Faces blurred so you won't get frightened.[/QUOTE]Actually the bodies in the pics didn't look so bad. Wish you would not have blurred the faces but I don't know whether or not that is against forum rules. Thank you for your charitable contribution. Your daddy raised you right.
Monkey, I know the girl with the sunglasses on her head. She is a friend of mine. Former nightwish girl. Name starts with M. She's a nice girl.
OK. My buddy and I are heading back to Pattaya and I am interested in opinions from member. He and I are going to fork over some extra cash for a model.
What clubs do you associate in your mind to have the most girls that you consider model or close to model quality looks?
Thanks.
The Rock.
[QUOTE=RockHound74;2138020]OK. My buddy and I are heading back to Pattaya and I am interested in opinions from member. He and I are going to fork over some extra cash for a model.
What clubs do you associate in your mind to have the most girls that you consider model or close to model quality looks?
[/QUOTE]LOL. If these biches looked like models then don't you think they would be models? Might as well splurge even more on one that's like a virgin while you are at it.
Models are made, not born. Just go pick any chick and take her to get her hair and makeup done and buy her a fancy dress and shoes. It ain't hard at all. Don't waste your money being fooled by glitz.
See attached photo. I have done the heavy lifting for you.
My buddy has been here 1 million times. For some reason, this time he got the bright idea to buy a bunch of dresses off amazon and bring them to sell to bar girls. Dude, if they had money then they wouldn't be bar girls! And besides that, haven't you noticed all of these carts riding aound here selling 100 baht dresses? He realizes his error now. For some reason guys can't just come and have fun. They always gotta get bright ideas.
Last night at Sapphire, I grabbed Beem. She's working there about 8 months and previously at What's Up. Beem is about 5'2 and very shapely with a nice set of silicone. I put her at about 110 lbs. Her English is good, but her conversation is a bit ditsy at times. I took her on advice from a fellow monger, who said she was very naughty in bed. But keep in mind YMMV, as with all girls. Beem said she remembered me from What's Up and always thought I had a girlfriend. I was like "but I've barfined like 15 girls from your club!" She was just happy that she got on the "Monkeypaw List of Done Girls. " She is apparently popular amongst the girls and say that on Walking Street all the bar girls think that if I haven't barfined them by now. Then they are ugly or something is wrong with them. Haha.
After about 4 drinks for her and 2 for her friend, who I previously had gone with before. We headed to my condo. She's not shy at all. Got undressed as soon as we walked in. We showered together and did some playing around in there. Long story short. Lots of BBBJ porn style with spitting, multiple cummer, and allowed me to CIM. The positions and angles she got in when we were doing the deed made me think she's very professional and sexy at the same time. She literally kept asking to eat my cum while we were having sex. So finally after 30 minutes, I told her to finish me with a blow job. And she did as promised and even licked off the extra on my shaft. Very fun and naughty girl indeed. Total damage 1500 barfine, 1200 for drinks, 3000 plus 300 tip for the girl. Beem gets a Monkeypaw two paws up!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2137887]Monkey, I know the girl with the sunglasses on her head. She is a friend of mine. Former nightwish girl. Name starts with M. She's a nice girl.[/QUOTE]She would have been the only one I maybe have considered. But I get scared what's underneath. Rather just pay extra at the GoGos to see their bodies. At least we had fun eating ice cream.
[QUOTE=RockHound74;2138020]OK. My buddy and I are heading back to Pattaya and I am interested in opinions from member. He and I are going to fork over some extra cash for a model.
What clubs do you associate in your mind to have the most girls that you consider model or close to model quality looks?
Thanks.
The Rock.[/QUOTE]Palace is the best club because they have the most models in number by far. Their drinks are more expensive, barfine is 2000 all night, however they can be the pickiest when it comes to getting barfined. They make 16,000 every 10 days off drinking alone. I've seen them hustle guys for tons of drinks only to reject them. If they sit with you and their model friends come around with the tequila shot trays and you don't buy any for them or their friends. Then "Good Luck" at getting them to go with you and having a memorable experience. Best time to catch them is after midnight -2 am. Let the models make their drink quotas first. Take it from me, I've barfined about 9 models from there, they are good at hustling!
[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2137096]Good point. But you have to be clear. In every town, in every city in every country I have been to, some people think that bars / clubs / gogo bars / strip clubs (that don't have a cover charge) are happy with customers who come in and sit down for 2 - 6 hours and just order one drink.
A regular customer is in a different category. Random guys (no matter their race, religion or color) who wander into a bar and don't' buy a drink an hour or barfine a girl are a waste of time and resources for the bar. Unfortunately, Indians have the stereo type of being cheap, so Rocky is going to have to deal with that issue. We all know that there are many girls who have tiered pricing structure, and many of us know that the girls will typically quote Indian guys higher prices. Girls also quote older guys, fat guys, ugly guys higher prices. It is what it is..[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. I am an Indian guy in his late 20's, decent looking, wears mid ranged branded cloths and in shape (mind you l am not athletic but don't have a big belly either). Last time I was in Pattaya I had a budget of 10,000 baht per day only for mongering. I am not like MonkeyPow who can spend millions of dollars in charity but I never faced any discrimination. I never negotiated with the girls in fact I stuck with 10% tip policy to the girls and Mamsan and 100 baht tip to the doorman if I pick a girl from go-go or club. I tipped 1000 baht to the guy managing the VIP section of Ibar and he always hooked me up with the best looking girls in the club at a very decent rate. I personally found it VFM cause the girls I ended up with would have costed at least twice back in India. Once couple of British men walked up to to me in Ibar and confessed they didn't know an Indian could spend so much. I simply smiled and offered them couple of pegs from the bottle and had a good time sharing our experiences.
The end of the story is if you aren't good looking, white skinned or have a Greek God body you can always impress everyone with your heavy wallet. After all you live once.
[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2137647]
Went to Devil's Den. Booked 2 girls for the usual 4000.
I just wanted a threesome experience. It was okayish.
I chose Cory and I told her to choose the other one. She chose Wan.
Wan was very good in BBBJ while Cory had nice lemons.
2 shots. It is very mechanical like soapie so WIR? Nope.
[/QUOTE]Same experience, same conclusion. WIR: Nope.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2138044]LOL. If these biches looked like models then don't you think they would be models? Might as well splurge even more on one that's like a virgin while you are at it.
Models are made, not born. Just go pick any chick and take her to get her hair and makeup done and buy her a fancy dress and shoes. It ain't hard at all. Don't waste your money being fooled by glitz.
See attached photo. I have done the heavy lifting for you.
My buddy has been here 1 million times. For some reason, this time he got the bright idea to buy a bunch of dresses off amazon and bring them to sell to bar girls. Dude, if they had money then they wouldn't be bar girls! And besides that, haven't you noticed all of these carts riding aound here selling 100 baht dresses? He realizes his error now. For some reason guys can't just come and have fun. They always gotta get bright ideas.[/QUOTE]Mr. E.
Thanks for making the example and making my point at the same time Land of Smile = Once you set exit Immigration it is Land of Stupidity, nothing personal to your friend but it happens to the best of us.
[QUOTE=WankerBoy;2137647]moved on to Soi 6 in the Hopped around and settled at Horny Bar. Picked up a girl for 1000ST + 400 for the room.
Went to Devil's Den. Booked 2 girls for the usual 4000. I just wanted a threesome experience.[/QUOTE]So why not just choose 2 chicks from the first place? Or 3 for that matter?
[QUOTE=Axiata;2135367]What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour. Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]Why are you concerned what the girl thinks? Talk to her and see if she is giving you a good vibe. If not, it's her loss. Plenty more to choose from. One more thing, the odds are always in your favor. You have the money. They are there looking for work. Think about it.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2135452]IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.
I don't think you can simply state that one place or any type of girl is this or that (meaning a sure thing for a target objective, whatever that might be for a specific guy) . Some examples from my own observation over many months in Pattaya (but I am far from being any kind of expert so please take it FWIW):
1. There are beach road girls that do come to Insomnia or Ibar (but a lot more to say Lucifer or Red Car). Anyone who thinks that this is not the case is simply misinformed. Girls from massage places, beer bars, go gos, and regular girls (example , working at a hotel or even 7 Eleven) go to the discos (" to enjoy" their terminology) and are open to " going with man" , as they often refer to it.
Now, I don't know what the distribution looks like, but I would guess less than 10 pc (but that's still a lot of girls) are from beach Road. Girls have specifically said they have in the past been at beach Road when they need some money ASAP.
2. Not all girls at even the best go gos are what one would call go go material. As a matter of fact, based on my recent experience (which is very limited to say about 8 diff go gos in WS and LK Metro ), I would say a full 50 pc are VERY average, meaning a 6/6. 5 or below. Some are pretty poor lookers IMO. And yeah, this even applies to Imagine (what's up upper level). Maybe 20pc of a typical top quality go go , IMO, is worth bar fining.
So, yes there is a distribution of 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, a few 9's in all go gos.
Most places have a fixed bar fine, some have multiple levels, but still, even in each level not all girls are equivalent.
So, I would suggest not paying a steep bar fine for a 6 in a go go. And certainly don't pay 4 k.
There are 6. 5 's and the occasional 7 even avail at Insomnia for 2 K LT, and, if you are very lucky even a 7 at a beer bar. I was lucky enough in the last 8 days to bar fine four 7's from a beer bar for anywhere from 350-700 and 2 K LT. After a lot of time and work searching. I would suggest smaller beer bars in Jomtien and even Simon complex and others nearby on 2nd RD.
3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but age is not. IMO! The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine. Again, age distribution is all over the place at beer bars (so many 40 plus yo) and many go gos with 30 plus (do they need a boob job due to age and gravity).[/QUOTE]Been saying the same for awhile. Got tired of trying to tell some folks on here. Plenty of girls spread out everywhere and easy to find. No need to drop 4 k and there is no 'must have' girl. Just go to another place.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2135763]Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.
Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.[/QUOTE]Did he come out zipping his pants? If not, he probably declined her service.
The girl, from Club 4 or 007, you been here too long, so you should know better. Why buy her a drink with no vibe? I really don't need an answer, it was a rhetorical question. I never buy a girl a drink unless I have some sort of vibe.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2135763]Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.
Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.[/QUOTE]I took out another ISG member Dcfan about 2 weeks ago. He wanted to see some new places. Took him to 3 off the path gentlemen's clubs. We only found 2 that were to our liking. His girl wanted 2 k for ST right there, my girl was in a hurry to go to the room. Both girls were turned away.
Next we rolled though soi 7 and 8. Nothing special for frequent visitors. So the heck with it, we went to soi 6. Made 2 and a half walks up and down the street. Some girls were pulling us in, and at least 2 girls turned their noses up as we looked inside. LOL. We were going to go back and get his girl from soi 8. But on the way back towards beach road I spotted a nice curvy butt at Soho. Stopped there and talked to the girl. She seemed nice, so I asked DCfan if he wanted to keep cruising or grab another beer. We went in and sat down. He soon grabbed a girl with a round butt and it's on now. I was telling my girl that we can go boom boom at my place because it's cleaner. She agreed. Then she 300 baht for the bar and I can go with you (as if I didn't know already). So yes, 300 for take out. Then she wanted to know long time or short time, I said we can talk about that later. Try ST first and if I'm happy, you can stay long time. No money was discussed other than the barfine. I tell Dc I'm taking my girl to MY room. Soon after, DC tells me his girl wants 400 barfine for ST. I said, no it's 300 here or at your place for ST and I'm taking my girl out for just 300 baht. They talk more and she agreed to 300! So you see, his girl was tying to get an extra 100 baht from him! He decided to do her right there for the correct amount of 300, but came back down after seeing the room. I was like, what happened? He said his room was better. That shit was funny. So we all left. It was around 10.30 pm. At the bar our two girls did not ask for a drink either. So it's always better to interview first. Had they asked for a drink after the screening, they would have gotten a drink. But it's not necessary. He ended up taking his girl for 1. 5 hours ST. He had a flight to catch very early so LT was not an option. He reported back that his honey performed very good!
My girl stayed all night. We had a drink at my place and round one. Great session in a nice clean condo. After the shower we just chilled. She obviously wasn't interested in going back to the bar. Another hour or two and we had round number 2. One more round the next day before noon. She asked for 400 baht extra since she didn't go back to the bar last night. No problem. AND I gave her a little extra for LT vs ST (my choice. She didn't ask). Everyone was happy.
She came over again on the 30th for another round. Claims she missed me. LOL. I guess she needed some baht. I was in the mood so why not. Come on over honey.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2138241]I took out another ISG member Dcfan about 2 weeks ago. He decided to do her right there for the correct amount of 300, but came back down after seeing the room. I was like, what happened? He said his room was better. That shit was funny.[/QUOTE]LOL. That must have been 1 fucked up room. I know that he is not that picky when it comes to that.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2136925]For ST there are girls at beer bars you can find for say 500 bar fine, plus 1000ST, plus another min 500 baht for drinks and to have time to chat and build some kind of rapport. So, a min of 2000ST at a beer bar and about 3000 LT. But quality is all over the map at the beer bars and good looking young ones are slim pickings requiring a heck of a lot of time and work.[/QUOTE]2 things. Some of the bars are charging 4 and 500 baht to take a girl out. This was news to me 2 weeks ago on soi 7 and 8. I know some bars are asking that much on Soi Buakhao too.
The other thing, I wouldn't put a price for a minimum of drinks for the girls. Just keep it simple. Feel them out first and see what's up before buying a drink. Don't waste money on a dud who only wants drinks. I have taken girls without buying a drink. On the other hand, if I have a nice girl giving strong signals, of course she can have a drink or 2 or 3. Even then it's less than than 500 baht.
Same thing with the ST / LT. Even with a 500 baht barfine you can get a girl for 2000-2300 (depending on how many drinks you buy her). Just keep it smooth and keep moving.
I have bought girls drinks before even though I knew I wasn't going to take them. If I'm having fun and enjoy their company, sure they can have a few drinks. You might change your mind.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2138123]Palace is the best club because they have the most models in number by far. Their drinks are more expensive, barfine is 2000 all night, however they can be the pickiest when it comes to getting barfined.[/QUOTE]Palace barfine is 1500 long time, dropping to 1000 after midnight. I asked the other night for a friend.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2138309]Palace barfine is 1500 long time, dropping to 1000 after midnight. I asked the other night for a friend.[/QUOTE]I've always paid 2000 baht for models. Regular coyote dancers 1000ST, 1500 LT, and 1000 after midnight. I didn't know they changed the barfine for models. I've only been back 3 days in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2138241]I took out another ISG member Dcfan about 2 weeks ago. He wanted to see some new places.
But on the way back towards beach road I spotted a nice curvy butt at Soho. Stopped there and talked to the girl. She seemed nice, so I asked DCfan if he wanted to keep cruising or grab another beer. We went in and sat down. He soon grabbed a girl with a round butt and it's on now.
[/QUOTE]Funny how that works isn't it?! It truly is a crazy crapshoot sometimes, but you just never know what you're going to get! So many options everywhere! Haha.
Glad you guys had a good time.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2138310]I've always paid 2000 baht for models. Regular coyote dancers 1000ST, 1500 LT, and 1000 after midnight. I didn't know they changed the barfine for models. I've only been back 3 days in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]OK. I misunderstood. I quoted for a regular gogo girl.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2138181]So why not just choose 2 chicks from the first place? Or 3 for that matter?[/QUOTE]The way I see it two soi 6 ladies would be: 2 x 1000 for the ladies, 2 x 300 BF, 400ST room, and maybe a couple of rounds of drinks. That is rapidly approaching 90 minutes 4000 DD pricing without the guaranteed kink (sex swing, strapon, lesbian, unlimited pops) so not that much out of line. YMMV.
If you can find two BR ladies that would play nice with each other for <= 1000 each, and take them back to your room, yeah that would be some cost savings.
SL.
Leaving Pattaya today for Bangkok. For my first time to Thailand I loved every second of Pattaya. Our first night we went straight to Walking Street and had a beer at the Simons at the very end of the Street. Then we started the shift beer crawl. We to a few before we settled on one, forgive me in advance for not remembering names of either bars or girls. We barfined a girl each and returned to our hotel the penthouse, very happy with the location as in less then 5 minutes we are the clock. After the deed we a drink and then carried on. I think we ended up at Wildcats and I barfined agained LT. We had a bite to eat and she asked if she could her friend for a threesome and of course I said yes. The next day we got a driver for the day and checked out some sights and then had rest for the nights activities. We went to Taboo looking for one of my line contacts but she wasn't working so we barfined 2 of her friends and then proceeded to bar hop again. Our strategy being make the girls work for there drinks. What s pay off. We had, in the bars that we liked, at least 3 to 5 naked girls with there hands on our cocked and us rubbing pussy and licking nipples every which way. We barfined agained maybe from Windmill. On Monday I had a bi sexual couple of girls around for a threesome and it was a fantastic couple of hours. There names are May and Aon and I contacted them thru Thai Friendly. They will eat be everyone's cup of tea but they are part timers in a relationship and enjoy a cock. By this stage I'm fucked so I have the rest of the day off and re charge for Tuesday. My mate goes out and does a repeat on one of his earlier girls. Tuesday was the highlight of the trip. I started with a 10 am visit from Thai Friendly and she bought her flat mate for my mate. A good start to the day so after we go to the pistol range we have lunch and beers. After that we hit the bars on beach road at the bottom of Soi 8 and barfine some girls we were playing pool with. 2 great girls and we had a great time. After that we head of for dinner and we both know we are too drunk to cum again so if to walking street just to party. At a few bars we only stayed if the girls got naked and no lady drinks until they did. Being drunk we went wild licking nipples and pussies and getting our cocks out for hjs. We finished at Crazy House and what a blast there. We had about 6 girls all naked and going hard. We got blow jibs at the table and pretty much everything was on. We didn't barfine but we spent about 5000 there on our drinks and lady drinks. Yesterday my wingman was down due to a bad burger so I contacted a Thai Friendly girl for a BBBJ with CIM to start the day and then had lunch and walked around Beach road and Soi13/3. There a got a 2 girl massage but wasn't going to pay 3000 extra for a be. J. So after the massage went to Pump Station 2 and BBBJ and CIM. We are off to Bangkok today so a report when I have time. All in all in Pattaya 5 5 nights and 11 girls so I'm happy with the result.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2135452]IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.[/QUOTE]I walked from Walking street to Soi 6 last night around 10:00 and I must have seen easily 1500 hookers just on BR. Fat, skinny, short, tall, I think most had vajayjay's. Some of them who I'm pretty sure were actual women were very pretty. I'm an old fuck and had been to an MP yesterday so I wasn't in the market but the window shopping was amazing.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2138495]Leaving Pattaya today for Bangkok. For my first time to Thailand I loved every second of Pattaya. [/QUOTE]Rob, sounds like a great time! A threesome is at the top of my to do list for nest visit.
I'm glad your TF contacts came through as well! Look forward to your Bangkok report.
Cheers,
HBK Lew.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2138501]I walked from Walking street to Soi 6 last night around 10:00 and I must have seen easily 1500 hookers just on BR...[/QUOTE]That's a good walk, to walk all the way from Walking Street to Soi 6. Sometimes when I come from Soi 6 I take the Baht bus and get off around Central or Mike Shopping, to walk from there to Walking Street and to check out the girls in Beach Road. It might be even a better Idea to walk from Soi 6 because you are right that the girls are spread out all along Beach Road. It will be good exercise and fun to see so many freelancers. I'll do the entire walk next time coming from Soi 6!
Yesterday I went and met with Rocky 2300 and his friend. Rocky 2300 had previously reached out to ISG members looking for advice being that it's his first trip ever to Thailand and Pattaya. He had private messaged me earlier for some guidance and perhaps show him the spots in Pattaya. Both he and his friend are from India, so his best bet for a good time was me I guess. We met for lunch, where he and his friend generously paid for my first Indian vegetarian Thali meal. We had a conversation of places where I would take him, what was expected of their behavior, and pricing. We also had a discussion about what type of "game" it would take for him to have a better experience. So Rocky 2300, here for only 3 days, from New Delhi India, who is in the jewellery business was transformed into Rocky 2300, here for one month, from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, whose father owns several KTVs and clubs that often employed Thai girls visiting Malaysia. I told him to rehearse that well and be prepared for questions. 😓.
After a nap, we met around 6 pm and headed to Soi 6 area, but first stopping by Rasputin, Sabai Room, Honey 2, and Sabai Dee. Rocky 2300 and his buddy gathered a collection of numbers of probable girls that they wanted to take. Neither of them have ever experienced a soapy massage before. Being that the price ranged from 2000-4000, and the quality of the girls, I think they will take the leap within there 3 days. It was awesome these soapies accept credit cards with only 3% addition. I'm going to use my dad's business credit card and let the government pay for my soapies and sex through tax deductions. We then headed to Soi 6 for a quick tour. We walked up and down Soi 6 twice. All 3 of us were in agreement, the girls from the soapie massage were higher quality than Soi 6, in general. This coming from two first time visiting Indians to Thailand. Still we decided to hangout at Lucky Love Bar first. Rocky 2300 was quickly interested in one of the girls and inquired about pricing for her. The mamasan asked him where was he from. He let slipped "India. " The mamasan told him don't tell any of the girls that. I looked at him and told him, remember the conversation we had at lunch. The mamasan called the girl to come sit with him. The girl shook her head "no" and blatantly told mamasan that she wanted me instead. I looked back and said,"nope you aren't my style. " She was definitely the best one there, but not up to Monkeypaw standards, even for 1000 baht. Just in case, she's the one with a lot of tattoos on her arms and lighter skin, slim.
After leaving Lucky Love, we hung out a bit at Toy Box. Rocky 2300 game was improving and he almost scored. If he reports, I'll let him tell the story at Toy Box. About 9:30, Baccara was full. After a quick conversation with the waiter. They moved out 3 Korean guys from the lower cushion seats next to the stage and sat us down. Those Koreans didn't even know what was happening. "Like God" is my nickname. We were at Baccara with lower front view seats next to the stage because I wanted Rocky 2300 to get full view up the girls with no panties, while enjoying the show downstairs. It was a very strange sight seeing 2 first time to Thailand Indian guys sitting in those VIP seats at 9:30 pm. I can tell they enjoyed it very much as the girls trickled by one by one and pay their patronage to the Monkeypaw. This is where the story gets weird for me. So I see this new dancer, #81, with the hottest body on Walking Street. Her face is also very nice as well. I can see her look at me from the corner of my eye. Other dancers that I have been were smiling at me so my eyes kept shifting. But they kept returning to #81. I kept thinking, I've been here over 200 times in one year, how did I miss this one. She's clearly the hottest one at Baccara. So I thought, "what the fuck, let me call her down. " I pulled the waiter to the side and told him to bring #81 to me. FYI for those who don't know, girls can reject drinks at Baccara. There is no 10 days drink quota and salary. Those girls at Baccara make their money off getting barfined. Some tend to very picky. Even I got rejected once because a girl thought I was Korean because I have sleeved tattoos. I'm not Korean, don't tend to like "most" of them because they still eat dogs.
Anyways after the waiter got her attention to who wanted to buy her a drink, she looked at me, and gave him a "nod" okay. Monkeypaw was flattered that he got accepted 😬. When she came down, she introduced herself as Fine, and we had this conversation of how long she worked at Baccara. She said she's been here awhile but hasn't been to work in 3 months. I said have you seen me before, she says yes. I'm like why haven't I seen you, but your face looks familiar. She said before she had shorter hair. It's a longer blonde now, but I'm sure it hair extensions. The whole time we were taking she had this evil grin on face. Even though it was before 10 pm, she was so sexy and her body was so hot, I couldn't resist any longer. Anyways, after a couple of drinks, I asked to barfine her. She said "okay!" I turned to Rocky 2300 and told him I was taking this girl back to my condo and will be back in an hour or so. If he was interested in any girl, let me know which and I can make introductions. He is sitting at the center of the bottom stage in the VIP seats and he is Indian. Even the Asians standing around were staring at them, thinking what happened here? Why are we standing or having to sit by the mirror wall. I liked that. Flipping the table every once in awhile. Spoiled Asians at Baccara envying Indians. Hilarious. Anyways, he responded that he liked #81. I was like "my girl?" he said is that her sitting next to you? I said "yes, all I can do is ask her after I'm done. " Quick ending on that one was. She said because he's my friend, she would do a 1 hour ST at the Oasis for 10,000 and chuckled.
Back at my condo, she kept having this grin. I thought I was about to get molested or something. We showered separately and started with some kissing and a lubed HJ. She did some ball sucking and licking. When she did, she smiled at said "you don't remember me do you?" Man! I had one of those "what the fuck" what did I do wrong moments. I said "not really. " She said I went with you about 6 months ago. I just shrugged it off and told her "I can't remember. " She said it's okay and started with a blow job. Then it all came back to me. I told her "yes, and I remembered telling you that you had the best body on Walking Street ever. " This was when she first started working and she thought I was just trying to flatter her. She just smiled. She then said after our session, the girls in the locker room would talk about me. She said she told them what I said about her having the best body. They told her that "if he said you did, then he meant it because he has a reputation on Walking Street as having been with over a few hundred girls and that he is picky. " She said that has stuck in her head. She proceeded to give me a very memorable experience, unexpected from most Baccara girls. No use in saying too much about it, but you can tell when a girl has feelings during sex, even though money is involved. Anyways later we head back to Baccara and Rocky 2300, his buddy and I finished the night with girls on our laps at Sapphire. His buddy was drunk and acting funny crazy. I'll let him do his own report. Cheers to banging so many girls that you can't remember them even if they stared at you in the face. - MP.
P.S. Paid the standard 3700 for everything including tip, taxi, and barfine.
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2138602]That's a good walk, to walk all the way from Walking Street to Soi 6. Sometimes when I come from Soi 6 I take the Baht bus and get off around Central or Mike Shopping, to walk from there to Walking Street and to check out the girls in Beach Road. It might be even a better Idea to walk from Soi 6 because you are right that the girls are spread out all along Beach Road. It will be good exercise and fun to see so many freelancers. I'll do the entire walk next time coming from Soi 6![/QUOTE]Kinda weird, every time I say to a moto taxi "no thanks I like walking" they look at me like I'm an alien. I guess living in BsAs for so long changed me when it comes to walking. Walking is how I prefer to introduce myself to a city. When I got here I walked from the bus station to soi 10. It's not the money, the truck / bus guy said 50 baht. I enjoy walking in new places. I walked from the Tweet tweet today to Devils Den, then walked back a different route. Along the way I found this little fruit market and had an impromptu lesson on all these new kinds of fruit I've never seen before from one of the ladies that was selling the fruit.
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2138602]That's a good walk, to walk all the way from Walking Street to Soi 6...[/QUOTE]I enjoy walking too. Often, when I visited a soapy on Soi 2 (Sabai Dee, Honey 2), typically around 4-6 pm, I ended up taking a leisurely walk on beach road all the way to Walking street. I used to stay at P72 inside WS, and loved it. These days I like Soy 10 better, as I don't stay late much. I am an older fart now who still enjoys Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2135452]...The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine...[/QUOTE]That was a good post, and I agree with you for the most part. But, I disagree with your opinion about Kinnaree. I like that place and I often visit that club when I am in Pattaya.
The central theme of your post was not to get hung up on any particular place, but to look around everywhere, I. E. You can find gems at much less expensive places. Then, you go on to disparage a particular club, Kinnaree. I see a contradiction here, to say the least. Did you have a bad experience at that club by any chance?
Also, I am not sure where in the US one can find something better. How about giving us some more details.
In Europe and Latin America, we are talking about a whole different theme. Don't confuse sushi with French food, they are different and some folks may like both. I am surprised you did not add Japan to that list, while you're at it.
At 22:20 between Central Festival and LK Empress, 124 girls.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2138682]Kinda weird, every time I say to a moto taxi "no thanks I like walking" they look at me like I'm an alien. I guess living in BsAs for so long changed me when it comes to walking. Walking is how I prefer to introduce myself to a city. When I got here I walked from the bus station to soi 10. It's not the money, the truck / bus guy said 50 baht. I enjoy walking in new places. I walked from the Tweet tweet today to Devils Den, then walked back a different route. Along the way I found this little fruit market and had an impromptu lesson on all these new kinds of fruit I've never seen before from one of the ladies that was selling the fruit.[/QUOTE]Agree. I enjoy walking and checking out the action. It has led me to finding a few gems, but really just exploring on foot is a lot of fun. I rented a motorbike last time I was there and whole it was fun, I missed just walking around. I had a girl who lived by the big see. I was staying close to Soi 13. We would walk up to her place. Then I would walk back to my place along beach road. I love to sit and watch the water, have a bite to eat (usually Bronx pizza), and observe the action on Beach Road. Once saw bunch of girls rip into a guy who was taking photos of them.
After I had the session at Devils Den I was hungry and went in search of food. I ended up eating at the little food court a block over at a place called Kasalong Restaurant which does northern Thai food. I saw the northern thing and Chain Mai is next on the list so I thought I would check it out. Fuck that was some good food. Among other things I had the Khao Soi Kai (like a spicy coconut curry sort of Thailands answer to Pho) nice people, great service and seriously incredible fucking food.
Google maps shows it in the middle of an empty field but there's a food court bar court there now.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/u6smfG4BhaD2[/URL]
My reasons for plugging them are entirely selfish, if I ever come back to Pattaya I would like to eat here again.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2138634]We also had a discussion about what type of "game" it would take for him to have a better experience. So Rocky 2300, here for only 3 days, from New Delhi India, who is in the jewellery business was transformed into Rocky 2300, here for one month, from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, whose father owns several KTVs and clubs that often employed Thai girls visiting Malaysia. I told him to rehearse that well and be prepared for questions.[/QUOTE]Why does anyone need to lie about being rich to a Thai girl?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2138791]Why does anyone need to lie about being rich to a Thai girl?[/QUOTE]So they will expect more money from you maybe?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2138794]So they will expect more money from you maybe?[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly. It's why I'm asking the question.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2138682]Kinda weird, every time I say to a moto taxi "no thanks I like walking" they look at me like I'm an alien. I guess living in BsAs for so long changed me when it comes to walking. Walking is how I prefer to introduce myself to a city. When I got here I walked from the bus station to soi 10. It's not the money, the truck / bus guy said 50 baht. I enjoy walking in new places. I walked from the Tweet tweet today to Devils Den, then walked back a different route. Along the way I found this little fruit market and had an impromptu lesson on all these new kinds of fruit I've never seen before from one of the ladies that was selling the fruit.[/QUOTE]You are right, walking is underestimated and a great way to get around and you have time to take in the surroundings. But I understand that Thai people are lazy people and they would rather get on a motorbike taxi or a Songthaew, than walk for a while.
Today I did the whole walk, from Walking Street to Soi 6 and I was surprised that it wasn't longer than it was. I expected it to be longer and I guess one gets another perspective when the reference is going with the Songthaew, the same stretch. It definitely seems like it is a longer distance when judging the distance from riding the Songthaew along Beach Road.
I noticed that from around Central Pattaya Road up to Soi 6, there were definitely less ladies but there were still some scattered along the Beach Road. All in all they were quite impressive in numbers and if I had seen a stunner I would have taken her, but I didn't see any girl exactly to my liking.
When you think about it carefully. Almost everything you say can increase the chance of getting a better experience from a girl. Many guys will then respond back to me "But I've gotten good experiences and did not have to say I was rich. " True, but it's still a numbers game and we don't know the other factors that played out in your case.
All I know is all Thai girls working in sex have one thing I'm common, money on their mind. Many who have the ability, want to travel and work outside of Thailand. Take a look at the higher end girls at Baccara or Palace. When I sit with them, they are always talking about wanting to or taking working trips to Macau, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai, where they will often go and freelance in 5 star hotels or work in bars in that country and make crazy money. And the girls on the lower end always look up to what the higher end girls are doing. Prettier girls want to glamorizetheir profession. It's only human nature to do so. This is my true of the average Beach Road girl, but who knows. Thailand is still economically behind all those countries. So by him saying he has connections in Malaysia, girls who have an interest in travel, will probably give him a better experience because they have a hidden agenda.
Customers are perceived by girls according to these factors age, race, body type, weight, attractiveness, money length of stay, kindness to waitstaff, kindness to the girls friends in same bar (drinks), language skills, country of passport, and so and so on. More brownie points collected, the better the odds. When you have obvious factors that perhaps gets you rejected such as skin color or race, then you better make some of those other factors grand in order to "wow" them. Most guys quit and just move on girl options, When girl A rejects them. And when that fails, they move on to other clubs. They then go brag to others that the best clubs with best girls are Windmill and Annabelle 😓. I don't, I try to play better and stronger. This is what is meant by being "a player. " You get them to perform, then go after their sisters, best friends, and even their mom of use is hot.
These girls tell guys all sorts of lies and games. It's okay to play back to the girl you want. I don't whine to mamasan or stop coming to bar, I play back harder. I've had girls who can make 8-10,000 a night, go with me for 5,000 LT. Take #62 from Baccara. When she first started work she was cuter with just a rounder ass and nice breast implants. Now she looks weird with her new nose job, cut lips, cut eyes, Botox ass injections, and Farah Fawcett 1979 hair duo. She went with me after we chatted for just the 5,000 LT rate. This was about over a year ago when she looked more sexy. When we talked, I can tell she's more interested in guys who can do more for her that just barfine. She wanted to travel and get better connections.
All it took was for me to say. I used to have a relation with a girl who worked at Baccara Bangkok. I used to fly her to Hong Kong all the time for fun. And even though we are just friends, she can list me as her BF for vetting purposes to get by immigration when she comes to Hong Kong. That's game and then I had her hooked. She agreed to go for 5,000 and at dinner, all she talked about was traveling and Hong Kong. She went on to give me an awesome experience that night. Next day, I traded her out for the next girl at Baccara. Now when #62 sees me, she rolls her eyes. So basically, it doesn't hurt to tell them you have connections or wealth. But it can always help your odds. That's why it's just a numbers game. I'll wait and see if Rocky 2300 writes up on his experiences before I tell you guys the end result.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2138108]Last night at Sapphire, I grabbed Beem. She's working there about 8 months and previously at What's Up. Beem is about 5'2 and very shapely with a nice set of silicone. I put her at about 110 lbs. Her English is good, but her conversation is a bit ditsy at times. I took her on advice from a fellow monger, who said she was very naughty in bed. But keep in mind YMMV, as with all girls. Beem said she remembered me from What's Up and always thought I had a girlfriend. I was like "but I've barfined like 15 girls from your club!" She was just happy that she got on the "Monkeypaw List of Done Girls. " She is apparently popular amongst the girls and say that on Walking Street all the bar girls think that if I haven't barfined them by now. Then they are ugly or something is wrong with them. Haha.
After about 4 drinks for her and 2 for her friend, who I previously had gone with before. We headed to my condo. She's not shy at all. Got undressed as soon as we walked in. We showered together and did some playing around in there. Long story short. Lots of BBBJ porn style with spitting, multiple cummer, and allowed me to CIM. The positions and angles she got in when we were doing the deed made me think she's very professional and sexy at the same time. She literally kept asking to eat my cum while we were having sex. So finally after 30 minutes, I told her to finish me with a blow job. And she did as promised and even licked off the extra on my shaft. Very fun and naughty girl indeed. Total damage 1500 barfine, 1200 for drinks, 3000 plus 300 tip for the girl. Beem gets a Monkeypaw two paws up![/QUOTE]Hello,
Is it allowed to take picture inside the club Sapphire?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2139114]When you think about it carefully. Almost everything you say can increase the chance of getting a better experience from a girl. Many guys will then respond back to me "But I've gotten good experiences and did not have to say I was rich. " True, but it's still a numbers game and we don't know the other factors that played out in your case.
All I know is all Thai girls working in sex have one thing I'm common, money on their mind. Many who have the ability, want to travel and work outside of Thailand. Take a look at the higher end girls at Baccara or Palace. When I sit with them, they are always talking about wanting to or taking working trips to Macau, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai, where they will often go and freelance in 5 star hotels or work in bars in that country and make crazy money. And the girls on the lower end always look up to what the higher end girls are doing. Prettier girls want to glamorizetheir profession. It's only human nature to do so. This is my true of the average Beach Road girl, but who knows. Thailand is still economically behind all those countries. So by him saying he has connections in Malaysia, girls who have an interest in travel, will probably give him a better experience because they have a hidden agenda.
Customers are perceived by girls according to these factors age, race, body type, weight, attractiveness, money length of stay, kindness to waitstaff, kindness to the girls friends in same bar (drinks), language skills, country of passport, and so and so on. More brownie points collected, the better the odds. When you have obvious factors that perhaps gets you rejected such as skin color or race, then you better make some of those other factors grand in order to "wow" them. Most guys quit and just move on girl options, When girl A rejects them. And when that fails, they move on to other clubs. They then go brag to others that the best clubs with best girls are Windmill and Annabelle 😓. I don't, I try to play better and stronger. This is what is meant by being "a player. " You get them to perform, then go after their sisters, best friends, and even their mom of use is hot.
These girls tell guys all sorts of lies and games. It's okay to play back to the girl you want. I don't whine to mamasan or stop coming to bar, I play back harder. I've had girls who can make 8-10,000 a night, go with me for 5,000 LT. Take #62 from Baccara. When she first started work she was cuter with just a rounder ass and nice breast implants. Now she looks weird with her new nose job, cut lips, cut eyes, Botox ass injections, and Farah Fawcett 1979 hair duo. She went with me after we chatted for just the 5,000 LT rate. This was about over a year ago when she looked more sexy. When we talked, I can tell she's more interested in guys who can do more for her that just barfine. She wanted to travel and get better connections.
All it took was for me to say. I used to have a relation with a girl who worked at Baccara Bangkok. I used to fly her to Hong Kong all the time for fun. And even though we are just friends, she can list me as her BF for vetting purposes to get by immigration when she comes to Hong Kong. That's game and then I had her hooked. She agreed to go for 5,000 and at dinner, all she talked about was traveling and Hong Kong. She went on to give me an awesome experience that night. Next day, I traded her out for the next girl at Baccara. Now when #62 sees me, she rolls her eyes. So basically, it doesn't hurt to tell them you have connections or wealth. But it can always help your odds. That's why it's just a numbers game. I'll wait and see if Rocky 2300 writes up on his experiences before I tell you guys the end result.[/QUOTE]Who is paying for your expenses? Enlighten us.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2139114]... I'll wait and see if Rocky 2300 writes up on his experiences before I tell you guys the end result.[/QUOTE]Now I get curious to hear what Rocky2300 has to say of what happened. He was asking of advice, coming to Pattaya for the very first time, on a limited budget, and that also being Indian doesn't help much in being truly successful in every place that he wants to visit. It seems like he got useful help from you and and guidance to some successful mongering in Pattaya. I'm all ears to hear about it!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2138791]Why does anyone need to lie about being rich to a Thai girl?[/QUOTE]Few years ago I met a guy in Changping Dongguan in China who used to take people from other countries to KTVs and saunas and other places. Organized group parties. He never charged. He used to say he is super rich guy. His father owns aeroplane and things like that. So many times I thought if he is so rich why he wants to kinda work as a guide. Taking other people to saunas / flower streets / KTVs and all kind of fuck places. What's his benefit? Why he spares so much time for others without any gain? And he wanted everyone to spend a lot. Take girls of his choice or from the places of his choice. Booking rooms for them. Reason was obvious that he was getting commissions from the establishment's for every penny spent. So I found that when I go to a particular place directly I was charged less. I would have liked if he straight forward told everyone that's he is a guide and want to earn from his work. So basically I wanted to say each one has his own game and lies are useful in some cases. Am used to play my game independently but few people need to take help and impress the call girls. Let everyone be happy and enjoy life.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2139242]Hello,
Is it allowed to take picture inside the club Sapphire?[/QUOTE]AFAIK, you can not take any photo pictures in any clubs of Pattaya. The only club in Bangkok where I can take photo picture is Bangkok Bunny of NaNa plaza. When I took the gogo girls' photo pictures, I was actually outside this club and standed at least 20 feet away from this club.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2139114]I'll wait and see if Rocky 2300 writes up on his experiences before I tell you guys the end result.[/QUOTE]Are you kidding me? I took that mf out and he stole MY girl! We have been out since 1am. Him and the girl just left 30 minutes ago. It is 5:30am. All he spent all night was 100 baht for 1 orange juice. She has been buying her own wine all night. And he is going to give her 1000 baht tomorrow when she leaves. Like I said, fuck with me and he will be taking money home. Y'all are overthinking this shit.
LOL. And now I an talking to a chick that says she is a hostess at a gogo on LK Metro. I told her I would come there tomorrow and buy her a drink. I only started talking to her because. shit i gotta go. she keeps fucking with my phone
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2138044]LOL. If these biches looked like models then don't you think they would be models? Might as well splurge even more on one that's like a virgin while you are at it.
Models are made, not born. Just go pick any chick and take her to get her hair and makeup done and buy her a fancy dress and shoes. It ain't hard at all.[/QUOTE]I agree with Mr. E on this. My Dad says it's all about how much time and money a girl has to invest to make herself look good. Most Thai girls just don't have much of either and natural beauty is rare amongst humans. To be honest, most girls without makeup are rather ugly unattractive anyways.
A few years ago, my Dad to prove this point to me gave me around 100,000 HKD or around $13,000 (400,000 baht) to do an experiment. I was to go find the most unattractive girl possible, but she also had to have potential, so perhaps I can get something out her as my reward. I was to take the 100,000 HKD and invest in making her beautiful, like a model. So talking to some girls at Happy A Go Go about my offer, one suggest that I can invest in her sister who is in Chaiyaphum. Her name is Nongfar. She had pics of her, and this girl was very ugly indeed. Her sister was 25 years old and a virgin. I was able to meet her in person and at least she had a slim body and a decent ass. Her eyes were messed up, skin dark, just plain yuck 🤢 all over. Anyways Dad and I decided this was definitely a charity worth the cause. We slowly trickled the money to her and her family over a few of months. She sent pics of her progression to her eyes and face and her new boobs. The end result was astonishing. Afterwards, as my reward. I got Nongfar's virginity and was able to break her in some more sexually, when I brought her to Hong Kong for a couple of weeks for fun. Then we said our "good byes. " I just doing charity Monkeypaw style.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2139430]Most Thai girls just don't have much of either and natural beauty is rare amongst humans. To be honest, most girls without makeup are rather ugly unattractive anyways.[/QUOTE]I am the exact opposite. I love chicks with natural beauty and can't stand to see them with all that shit on their face. As soon as they come to my room I make them wash that makeup off. One chick that I met in the disco last night I went to see at her job at Royal Garden today. I walked past her twice before she told me where her place was. She looked like a totally different person. I told her that the makeup she had on made her look 10 years older. Today she was a natural beauty.
Date: 2/10.
Provider- Lita #90.
Description- 5'5, 110, slim, nice silicone, large tattoo on stomach (covering see-section), brownish red hair past shoulder, white skin, Chiangmai features.
Place- Sabai Room.
Paid- 2800 total: 2400 plus 200 tip for girl, 100 tip manager, and 100 tip house keeping.
Session time: 70 of 90 minutes.
ROS- About 7:30 pm arrived at Sabai Room. Maybe about 60 girls available. Settled on Lita. She was sitting near the front and center. I get really scared of getting a fat girl at soapies, so I look for signs like big arms and such. Her English is good through out or session. Quick shower, followed by body to body soapy massage on the float, followed by a bath, followed by sex. Sex was of course orchestrated. Lubed my dick first and blow job with condom on. Her skills are good. Felt like it was a BBBJ. Went through 4 positions cowgirl, miss, doggy, sideways. She gets extremely wet. Felt at times she was gushing. Finished with a tit fuck and came on her neck. Soapies I change girls anyways, so no need to ask if I would repeat. Just too many options and variable underneath the clothes. Most girls are very similar in looks and style. But it's the Monkeypaw way to help out as many single moms as I can. If I stuck to Go Go bars all the time, these soapies girls wouldn't have a chance. Dad says spread around the money and monkey love!
Met Rocky in front of 808 last night at 1am. It seemed like security did not want to let him in because the guy that was checking him asked if he was with me. I said yep. We went upstairs and I asked what he wanted to drink. I went to the first bar in front and got an orange juice for him and a water for me. 240 baht. We walked into the back and I showed him where I usually sit next to the door. The spot was occupied. We did a lap around the club and I would stop every now and then to talk some shit to a chick. When we got to the other side I saw a couple of chicks with a bucket of beer on their table. I went to the first one and talked a little shit then I went over to her friend and said my friend like you. She was receptive but Rocky was not giving her any play. I actually would have taken this chick for myself. The chick that I was talking to got up and I sat on her stool. She went to make a lap around. I said what's up man. Why aren't you talking to her? By this time my girl was back. He said that she was not his type. I said cool and told the ladies we would see them later.
We walked a little farther to the entrance on the right and lo and behold the table at the door was open with two stools. We sat down. I told him that when a chick comes by that he likes just grab her by the hand. Every chick that passed that he liked though he would try to put his arm around their back as they passed. But of course they were walking forward, so he was just grabbing air. I said no man grab them by the hand.
What I do is more fishing than hunting. Guys go from gogo to gogo or bar to bar looking at 40 chicks to find one that they like. I like to drop anchor and let the current carry all the fish past me. Then when I see one that I like I throw a line out.
On a side note, my frat brother (guy that brought the dresses) was in the VIP next to where we were sitting. He said that he was waiting on a couple of chicks. They kept trying to kick him out of the VIP because someone was having a party and had reserved the space. I said man don't you see this sign that says reserved? He said the sign was not there when he got there. That dude was standing his ground. When his two chicks showed up I was like got damn. They looked so good that I had to ask Rocky if he was sure those were not ladyboys.
I don't know how it happened but 3 chicks came over to our table hanging out. But there was a lot of movement between them. They kept going back and forth and around and around like they had ants in their pants. Somehow Rocky ended up being with the chick I was talking to and her friend was over between my legs. She looked down at my shirt (Brazil football Jersey) and said oh Brazil and cold started speaking Portuguese. I was stunned. These Thai chicks are always full of surprises. She said that she used to live in Sao Paulo and I told her that I lived and studied in Rio. Then she told the chick that Rocky was with and that bich started speaking Portuguese too! The 3 of them were off that Red Wine and me and Rocky still had our original drinks.
At 3am the chicks were telling us to come to Flexx with them. I told them that it was too early for Flexx. You don't want to get there before 4am. My chick said that she needed to go there soon so she could go home and sleep because she had to work at 10am. I asked where she worked and she said Royal Garden. I told her that I would come see her the next day. 3:30 came and they were adamant about leaving to go to the other club so I said okay, let me go to the toilet first.
I didn't come straight back from the toilet. I went the other way to do one last lap around the club. As I was passing 2 chicks, one started pointing to her friend. But the friend was moving away from me like ewww get away from me. I said your friend does not like me. So then she started being more receptive. I told her that I had to go but I would take her number and get with her another day. She put her number in my phone and it was already in there. It was a Badoo chick that I had never met, but had told me 3000 before. I laughed in my head. Later I sent my main wingman a message about her and he said there was a Badoo chick that told him 3000 in October, but in November she came over for 1200.
When I got back to the table, Rocky and the chicks were gone. I sent him a message but he didn't answer. I decided to head over to Flexx. When I went outside the police were making their rounds. The music in every club and bar went off and lights that were on went off, and lights that were off went on. I sent my chick that was with Rocky a message and she said she would be at Flexx soon. I hopped on my bike and headed over.
Wanted to find a Thai Massage that was not on Beach road or 2nd Road. I stop by Good Massage and Spa on Soi 13/2. The lady said she would give me a nice Thai massage and she had strong hands. So I said OK. Before I got in door, the lady switch with another younger Thai girl. At the beginning of massage I could tell she was not experience. I had to prompt her on what to do. She rush through the massage and it was the worst massage I had in my six year in Thailand. She finish before one hour, I asked her how long she been doing massage, she said one year and she was from Bangkok. I told her that this was my worst massage I ever had. She just look at me. I also told cashier and same response.
I wrote a review in Trip Advisors and rated POOR and got rejected. If you go to Good Massage and Spa, be aware!
[QUOTE=Coconut8888;2139621]Wanted to find a Thai Massage that was not on Beach road or 2nd Road. I stop by Good Massage and Spa on Soi 13/2. The lady said she would give me a nice Thai massage and she had strong hands. So I said OK. Before I got in door, the lady switch with another younger Thai girl. At the beginning of massage I could tell she was not experience. I had to prompt her on what to do. She rush through the massage and it was the worst massage I had in my six year in Thailand. She finish before one hour, I asked her how long she been doing massage, she said one year and she was from Bangkok. I told her that this was my worst massage I ever had. She just look at me. I also told cashier and same response.
I wrote a review in Trip Advisors and rated POOR and got rejected. If you go to Good Massage and Spa, be aware![/QUOTE]This is not the soi to go to when looking for a Thai massage. It's one of the raunchiest sois around, and is known for offering everything BUT good massages. Suggest you go to Eden or Nemo's on Soi Diana if you're looking for a good massage without any extras.
Many years ago, I wrote a negative review of a deluxe spa in Phuket. It was a real rip off and catered to mostly Europeans who are not aware of the outside price for services nor the better quality of services one can expect at similarly priced resorts. But they got great reviews, probably written by the owners themselves under different accounts. But my review did not appear.
Trip Advisors was outed in the news last year because they hide or banned reviews and warnings from travellers who were attacked or got sick from consuming fake drinks in the Caribbeans and Latin and South America. Nothing really happened to Trip Advisor but the newspaper did report on several of the stories.
[QUOTE=Coconut8888;2139621]I wrote a review in Trip Advisors and rated POOR and got rejected. If you go to Good Massage and Spa, be aware![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coconut8888;2139621]Wanted to find a Thai Massage that was not on Beach road or 2nd Road. I stop by Good Massage and Spa on Soi 13/2. The lady said she would give me a nice Thai massage and she had strong hands. So I said OK. Before I got in door, the lady switch with another younger Thai girl. At the beginning of massage I could tell she was not experience.[/QUOTE]They switched because they are in a queue, same as the motorbike taxis. If you wanted the first lady that you talked to, then when they tried to switch you should have made it known. I walked by that place the other day and they tried to get me to come in. I said Good Massage? I want better than just good. I kept walking and there at the top of the soi on the opposite side was Best Massage.
After my my session at Sabai Room with Lita, Monkeypaw headed to Walking Street for round 2. It only took one bar, my first bar, to find my next girl. Around 9:00 pm I walked into Yes Club, which is off to the side of WS behind the Club. Yes! Has been opened maybe around a few months. You can tell by new furniture and furnishings. The chairs, in my opinion, are silly. They sit too low and are far from the drink tray. You have to over reach. Previously, I've barfined a model from there. For the model, I paid 2000 barfine and 3000 for ST rate, not including drinks, tip, and taxi. She was on a 10 day contract as with most models and didn't work there anymore.
I stayed there about 15 minutes and was about to leave until I saw #61. She's tall and cute, but typically not my style. Her hair was short barely pass her shoulders and she lacked boobs. Her best asset was probably her long legs. She was a taller, slim, decent ass, and did have a cute face, so Monkeypaw decided to take the plunge. Care was her name. She previously worked Crystal at LK, but told me she switched because of too many farangs who like to grab and touch for 1 drink. I told her that YES! Also had farangs. She said but at least the club wasn't the type where they were cheap and touchy. I sat with her and a new mamasan. I bought her a couple of rounds of drinks and the mamasan 1 as well. The Monkeypaw total drink bill was 820. Only 120 of that was my own drink and it was buy 1 get 1 free. So 3 drinks for staff was 700 baht. That's pretty expensive even for a Go Go Bar.
I ended up taking Care back to my condo for ST. Barfine was 1500 and 3000 and 200 tip for her. Her performance was good with lots BBBJ. I had already had the session at Sabai Room, so it took me very long time to finish plus I was rock hard on that gel still. After she came, she was very sensitive. I was banging her for about 45 minutes straight, so I had to end up asking for a CIM blow job, which she did. Care was a good performer and very sweet. When I went to the shower, she made up my bed. Strange but very nice of her. She gets a Monkeypaw 2 🐾 up.
Care is the one dancing sexy and smiling in the video. In the photo, she's the one glowing white with the sexy long legs. Enjoy.
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Hi there,
First I would thank all of the fellow ISG members for helping me feel like one of the own by giving advices and info about Pattaya. So here I am contributing my share.
I am an Indian, so I expected some discrimination from Pattaya, but to my surprise I didn't get any. Maybe because I was alone, and I didn't behave shit like some other Indians do. Yes even I felt Indians worsening our race their. Back to share.
Picked up a girl from beach, took 2000 baht for 2 shots, but was in rather hurry, my mood got off, no kiss no DATY, I let go as it was waste to spend time.
I roamed roads then entered wind-mill gogo bar.
This was my first time to any gogo bar and boy I was impressed.
I was on 2nd floor and ordered a beer, 1 girl asked me about ladydrink, and out of gentleman I should be ordered 1 for her. She sat with me chatted a bit and then lap dance started, I had seen movies where lap dances are given but if you touch it ends. So I stayed still, fellow aside me cheered me up, and poured knowledge of what is actually done. And voila sweetest night it was. Barfine 1000 and ST 2000 and she was in my room, she was maybe on her periods, so we could do only once, other was BJ, but as I was OK with just spending time, she was so happy, she made me her friend.
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So sad that a guy has to die in Soi 6, which is the happiest place (street) on earth. It happened Friday afternoon and may the poor chap rest in peace.
[QUOTE=LoveGuy01;2138156]in fact I stuck with 10% tip policy to the girls and Mamsan and 100 baht tip to the doorman if I pick a girl from go-go or club.
The end of the story is if you aren't good looking, white skinned or have a Greek God body you can always impress everyone with your heavy wallet. After all you live once.[/QUOTE]I commend you for your generosity. Everyone knows the local Mamasans and doormen could use some extra baht.
For me, I never tip the mamasans or doormen. As for the doormen, I didn't ask them to open the door for me. I can open the door myself. I hold doors open for people all day long who are following me and I don't expect any tip from these people just because I didn't let the door slam behind me.
As for the mamasan, I frankly don't understand why I would give her a tip. She isn't the one who is going to be sucking my dick. Unless she's rendering some special service for me, I just don't see the point. I can see the girls, talk to them, and evaluate them all on my own. Sure, Mamasan knows stuff I don't know. Ok, so the day when I ask her for her advice, then I'll tip her. Until then, all the hasslings for tips are just frankly annoying. Yes, I know she supposedly does tons of shit for the girls. Ok, so the girls can tip her then.
My policy is to not tip anyone except my waitress and even then, the tip remains fairly small. You can call me a cheap Charlie if you want, and you would be right except as to the girls I take out who are good to me. Then, I am not a cheap Charlie.
Just my personal style.
Hi Guys.
Home now and sober LOL. I just read my report that I posted while in Thailand and it made no sense.
We hit Pattaya on the Saturday and after checking in to our hotel, the Penthouse we had a walk down Walking Street had some food and had a quite beer at one of the Simons and tried to work out a game plan. The plan was to hit as many bars as we could and see what was really going on. As time goes by my memory is poor so names and venues will be vague at best. I am not sure how many bars we went to before we had our first bar fine for the night but probably not many.
We got 2 22 year yo and proceeded back to the hotel for the deed. My wingman got the better of the 2 and it was good to notch the belt for the first one. After the deed we had drinks and then dropped them back at the Ago go. We had a few more beers at a few more bars with different levels of participation from the girls. Finally we hit Wildcats? And an older lady caught my eye so after a bit of fondling I hit her up for a LT. On the way home she contacted a friend for us to have a threesome so the deal was done.
So night one I had 1St and a LT 3 some so I so pretty happy.
Sunday Day 2 we decided after breakfast to see some sights so checked out a few sights and then after lunch I staered looking at my girls who line contacts I had. One said she was working at Taboo that night so I thought why noy at least check her out. We got there and after a drink we asked the girls we were molesting if they know her and they said yes after seeing her profile but said she wasn't working that night, her friends were cute so we barfined them instead. A good session. After that we went back to Walking Street we checked out a few more bars, one with a bathtub at the back. At that ago go I was almost fucking this girl with these 2 dudes watching, mas I was loving it. We then went to a bar with nurses out the front so in we went and had some good groping with lots of girls and took 2 home for a long time. When we got back to the hotel mine said she only wanted ST and I couldn't be bothered to argue so I pounded her hard for a couple hours and sent her home.
Monday Day 3 I had organised for my Thai Friendly 3 some and definitely one of the highlights. These girls are in a relationship but are both bi-sexual so they like to get cock when they can. Man everything was on offer and all holes explored! I was exhausted after that session. Since Friday night I think I had amassed about 9 hours sleep so an easy day was on the cards. After checking out the beach and doing 3 laps on the Baht bus I called it a night but my wing man went back for one his first night hook ups.
Tuesday Day 4. Amazing what a nights sleep can do for you. I called a Thai Friendly contact for a morning meeting and she said sure be there in 1 hour. She has a friend so both of us are set for a morning session, and it set the mood for the day. We went to the shooting range at Tiffanys and then proceeded to Beach Road for some lunch and drinks. We found ourselves at a bar on the corner of Beach Road and Soi 8? And had more beers and starting pool with some girls. WTF we bar fines and that got us thru to dinner time. Food at the Restaurant at the start of WS that overlooks the water and back to the ago gos. We revisted some that we visited thru the week and had some good sessions with the girls and we both knew that due to drunkness and 2 fucks already the day that there will be no barfining so we decide just to party at the bars. We thought all the bars we went to were bars we hadn't hit before and after having a good feel up of this girl my wingman pointed out a bathtub at the back at and all of a sudden there is girl being fingered by these 2 guys and she starts yelling at me about where did I go and I have a look at the bathtub again and the same 2 two guys are still there waiting for I don't know what. We ended up at Crazy House and fuck me it was on. After about ½ hour we had 5 girls, most naked, around us playing with pussy getting stroked and eventually all 5 girls giving us blowjobs. Just when we thought it couldn't get better this 8 comes into the bar and sees us near fucking her friends gets interested. I tell her to show us her boobs and in a flash her street clothes are off and she is sitting on my face. Tuesday was definitely the best night of the trip.
Wednesday day 5. My wing man is down! He is shitting thru a needle and can't keep any food down. WTF I'm ok and we have been eating the same food. I call a Thai Friendly contact and she is there in an hour giving me a BBBJ with CIM. My mate is still down so I go out for lunch and just checking thinks out. I go to Post Office Soi and get a 4 hand massage but I'm not going to pay 4000 baht for a blow job so I'm all primed so I go to Pump Station and get blown for 900 baht LOL. I go back to the wingman is no better so I have a quite dinner and have an early night myself.
I can't wait to get back to Pattaya in 12 months for another holiday. I will do my Bangkok report in the Bangkok forum. In total in Pattaya 11 girls with 4 from Thai Friendly and I could have easily had a couple more from there but I saw no need to use them.
Recommendations are Windmill, Annabelles, Marilyn Monroes and Wildcats. Probably more but I can't remember. Ago gos I wouldn't go to is definatley Bacarras. If you are not Asian forget it, it is almost like you are invisible.
Thanks Rob.
If you are looking for real massage no place beats Savannah massage places, around 5 of them scattered along 2nd road so easy to find on songtheaw route. Signs are purplish and don't expect any dirty business.
[QUOTE=Coconut8888;2139621]Wanted to find a Thai Massage that was not on Beach road or 2nd Road. I stop by Good Massage and Spa on Soi 13/2. The lady said she would give me a nice Thai massage and she had strong hands. So I said OK. Before I got in door, the lady switch with another younger Thai girl. At the beginning of massage I could tell she was not experience. I had to prompt her on what to do. She rush through the massage and it was the worst massage I had in my six year in Thailand. She finish before one hour, I asked her how long she been doing massage, she said one year and she was from Bangkok. I told her that this was my worst massage I ever had. She just look at me. I also told cashier and same response.
I wrote a review in Trip Advisors and rated POOR and got rejected. If you go to Good Massage and Spa, be aware![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deshpander;2140065]
Picked up a girl from beach, took 2000 baht [/QUOTE]Mr. E is going to have a heart attack!
[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2140130]
So sad that a guy has to die in Soi 6, which is the happiest place (street) on earth. It happened Friday afternoon and may the poor chap rest in peace.[/QUOTE]
I've seen 2 male vs. male fights in my entire time in Thailand, both were at Ruby Bar. Way too many wanna-be's in that place.
Only other fights I've seen were between ladyboys and a fist fight between a cute young Thai girl and her boyfriend.
Rob can you give us an idea of the prices you were quoted and paid?
[QUOTE=RobJones;2140191]Hi Guys.
Home now and sober LOL. I just read my report that I posted while in Thailand and it made no sense.
We hit Pattaya on the Saturday and after checking in to our hotel, the Penthouse we had a walk down Walking Street had some food and had a quite beer at one of the Simons and tried to work out a game plan. The plan was to hit as many bars as we could and see what was really going on. As time goes by my memory is poor so names and venues will be vague at best. I am not sure how many bars we went to before we had our first bar fine for the night but probably not many.
We got 2 22 year yo and proceeded back to the hotel for the deed. My wingman got the better of the 2 and it was good to notch the belt for the first one. After the deed we had drinks and then dropped them back at the Ago go. We had a few more beers at a few more bars with different levels of participation from the girls. Finally we hit Wildcats? And an older lady caught my eye so after a bit of fondling I hit her up for a LT. On the way home she contacted a friend for us to have a threesome so the deal was done.
So night one I had 1St and a LT 3 some so I so pretty happy.
Sunday Day 2 we decided after breakfast to see some sights so checked out a few sights and then after lunch I staered looking at my girls who line contacts I had. One said she was working at Taboo that night so I thought why noy at least check her out. We got there and after a drink we asked the girls we were molesting if they know her and they said yes after seeing her profile but said she wasn't working that night, her friends were cute so we barfined them instead. A good session. After that we went back to Walking Street we checked out a few more bars, one with a bathtub at the back. At that ago go I was almost fucking this girl with these 2 dudes watching, mas I was loving it. We then went to a bar with nurses out the front so in we went and had some good groping with lots of girls and took 2 home for a long time. When we got back to the hotel mine said she only wanted ST and I couldn't be bothered to argue so I pounded her hard for a couple hours and sent her home.
Monday Day 3 I had organised for my Thai Friendly 3 some and definitely one of the highlights. These girls are in a relationship but are both bi-sexual so they like to get cock when they can. Man everything was on offer and all holes explored! I was exhausted after that session. Since Friday night I think I had amassed about 9 hours sleep so an easy day was on the cards. After checking out the beach and doing 3 laps on the Baht bus I called it a night but my wing man went back for one his first night hook ups.
Tuesday Day 4. Amazing what a nights sleep can do for you. I called a Thai Friendly contact for a morning meeting and she said sure be there in 1 hour. She has a friend so both of us are set for a morning session, and it set the mood for the day. We went to the shooting range at Tiffanys and then proceeded to Beach Road for some lunch and drinks. We found ourselves at a bar on the corner of Beach Road and Soi 8? And had more beers and starting pool with some girls. WTF we bar fines and that got us thru to dinner time. Food at the Restaurant at the start of WS that overlooks the water and back to the ago gos. We revisted some that we visited thru the week and had some good sessions with the girls and we both knew that due to drunkness and 2 fucks already the day that there will be no barfining so we decide just to party at the bars. We thought all the bars we went to were bars we hadn't hit before and after having a good feel up of this girl my wingman pointed out a bathtub at the back at and all of a sudden there is girl being fingered by these 2 guys and she starts yelling at me about where did I go and I have a look at the bathtub again and the same 2 two guys are still there waiting for I don't know what. We ended up at Crazy House and fuck me it was on. After about hour we had 5 girls, most naked, around us playing with pussy getting stroked and eventually all 5 girls giving us blowjobs. Just when we thought it couldn't get better this 8 comes into the bar and sees us near fucking her friends gets interested. I tell her to show us her boobs and in a flash her street clothes are off and she is sitting on my face. Tuesday was definitely the best night of the trip.
Wednesday day 5. My wing man is down! He is shitting thru a needle and can't keep any food down. WTF I'm ok and we have been eating the same food. I call a Thai Friendly contact and she is there in an hour giving me a BBBJ with CIM. My mate is still down so I go out for lunch and just checking thinks out. I go to Post Office Soi and get a 4 hand massage but I'm not going to pay 4000 baht for a blow job so I'm all primed so I go to Pump Station and get blown for 900 baht LOL. I go back to the wingman is no better so I have a quite dinner and have an early night myself.
I can't wait to get back to Pattaya in 12 months for another holiday. I will do my Bangkok report in the Bangkok forum. In total in Pattaya 11 girls with 4 from Thai Friendly and I could have easily had a couple more from there but I saw no need to use them.
Recommendations are Windmill, Annabelles, Marilyn Monroes and Wildcats. Probably more but I can't remember. Ago gos I wouldn't go to is definatley Bacarras. If you are not Asian forget it, it is almost like you are invisible.
Thanks Rob.[/QUOTE]
I've grabbed her other night. FYI Mo is all about money. She likes girls, it's pretty obvious by her demeanor. This was verified as we talked over drinks. She's 22 with a very athletic type body and shapely ass. She is pictured in red. Her boobs are small and look sexier in her dance outfit than naked. Face wise, she is very cute in looks. Probably she would be number 2 in overall looks at Sapphire, behind May. There are actually 4 Mays that work at Sapphire and the one I'm talking about, I will repost a pic. May is in black. What I mean about liking money is that if you aren't there to buy her many drinks to go towards her quota or ready to barfine her, be prepared for her to bounce to another customer. This was our second session, so I knew what's up with her. The hotter girls are there to make money, not chit chat with customers who stall. Back in the room, she provided BBBJ with CIM, multiple pops, and DFK but YMMV depending on your looks, attitude, reputation, and tipping. She always treats Monkeypaw right and her best position is doggy. Paid was 3000 plus 300 tip, 1500 barfine and about 1000 in drinks. Mo gets a Monkeypaw 2 paws up!
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2140150]
For me, I never tip the mamasans or doormen. As for the doormen, I didn't ask them to open the door for me. I can open the door myself. I hold doors open for people all day long who are following me and I don't expect any tip from these people just because I didn't let the door slam behind me.[/QUOTE]I think the doormen are there for security and not just for opening the door. Nevertheless I never tip them either. And anyway, they don't seem to expect it.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2140229]Rob can you give us an idea of the prices you were quoted and paid?[/QUOTE]Please don't quote the entire lengthy report. Just one or two lines would have been enough in this case.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2140226]I've seen 2 male vs. male fights in my entire time in Thailand, both were at Ruby Bar. Way too many wanna-be's in that place.
Only other fights I've seen were between ladyboys and a fist fight between a cute young Thai girl and her boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Fights in Pattaya are not uncommon, especially on WS in the late hours. The most disturbing I saw was when a freelancer from discos (she was so small, no more than 40 kilos) assaulted a big guy (looked like an Aussie, he was muscular, maybe 90 kilos but very drunk) . The guy was in blood in less than a minute. She was so savage, nobody helped her and she did the damage only with her hands. But the guy was so drunk that he didn't try to fight back. I'm pretty sure she would have killed him if she could. When Thai passerby asked her what happened, that be*tch said he talked bad to her. Nobody got involved, motorbike taxis were watching quietly, and the Thai guys seeing that the foreigner wasn't fighting back didn't participate, in the end it was a girl nearby that put the guy on a motorbike taxi and told him to go away quickly.
Please DO NOT tip the doormen. What benefit is there for a person to do so? This isn't Spearmint Rhino or Sapphire in Las Vegas where the doormen block off good seats and expect a tip if you sit in them. As for the mamasan, if and ONLY IF she helped you get the girl, then MAYBE she deserves a tip. Even then why tip unless you plan on being a regular at that bar? As for waitresses, they get 20 to 40 baht tip at the end of the night whether I bought 1 or 25 drinks. If the waitress is super cute (a rarity these days) and DFK's you and lets you grope her then tip her 100 baht.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2140191]Recommendations are Windmill, Annabelles, Marilyn Monroes and Wildcats. Probably more but I can't remember. Ago gos I wouldn't go to is definatley Bacarras. If you are not Asian forget it, it is almost like you are invisible.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you prefer service over looks. Dirtiest clubs on WS are Windmill, Wildcats, Annabelle's, Crazy House, Taboo, and Sugar Babies. I've bombed out at MM every time I've gone. None of these would rank in the top 10 for overall looks imo.
Don't feel left out at Baccara. The girls pretty much ignore all the Japanese and Koreans there too but they don't seem to mind being ignored. They just want to grab a girl and bang her as quickly as possible, then rush to another gogo bar to grab another girl.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2140226]Mr. E is going to have a heart attack!
I've seen 2 male vs. male fights in my entire time in Thailand, both were at Ruby Bar. Way too many wanna-be's in that place.
Only other fights I've seen were between ladyboys and a fist fight between a cute young Thai girl and her boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Last time I poked my head in at Ruby Bar it was early and the patrons appeared to be roided up. Not a good combo being juiced up whilst on the juice. Angry vibes that evening so I kept walking and some how ended up at Red Point bar. A very busty Issan provider followed me in. We sat on the lounge inside (the place was empty besides two Thai guys who appeared to work there). After the basic chat and the provider giving my cock a good massage and me sucking her magnificent tits we went upstairs. The rooms were clean and tidy. The girl had a terrific body, I think she would have been about 24, long hair, dark skin. You know the type. No baby damage. Tight waist. And oh those titties! Yes they were false but fuck the surgeon did an excellent job. I got her on all fours, made her keep her extremely tall heels on and ate her asshole and pussy like a man possessed. 69, doggie, and fucked her hard and deep mish. Pussy was tight and those fun bags heaved and tossed as I fucked her good. I came so hard I thought I was going to blast off.
2000 THB including room.
WIR?
Absolutely fuck yes.
The only downer was I developed a slight rash around my nose and on my face from maybe sticking my entire face in that ass and pussy. Or maybe it was from something else. Anyway it was worth it and the rash cleared up after some hydro-cortisone cream.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2140252]Please don't quote the entire lengthy report. Just one or two lines would have been enough in this case.[/QUOTE]Mea culpa. Thanks for saying please!
Sounds like you prefer service over looks. Dirtiest clubs on WS are Windmill, Wildcats, Annabelle's, Crazy House, Taboo, and Sugar Babies. I've bombed out at MM every time I've gone. None of these would rank in the top 10 for overall looks imo.
You got it in one. I noticed the lack of interest on the faces on the hotter looking girls and couldn't be bothered to waste my time with them. If by dirty you mean crazy, slutty behaviour yes I love them LOL. The girls we bar fined were not Miss World but by no means did we have to turn the lights off either when doing the deed. Everyone is different and has different taste and I enjoyed my week so much I can't wait to get back next year with the knowledge I gained from this experience.
Sorry if I'm vague but overall 500 to 2000 bar fines and the most for a girl was 3000 LT. Mostly 1000 to 2000ST. I didn't bother trying to beat down the prices that much because I understand $80 AU $ 2000 baht is ok for a 48 kilo 22 yo girl to be pounded by a 56 100+ kg guy is reasonable. I believe my best value was the 2 girls from Thai Friendly who I paid 2000 each for a threesome and it was PSE + GFE and both girls were likeable.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2140233]Paid was 3000 plus 300 tip, 1500 barfine and about 1000 in drinks. [/QUOTE]So, it would take 8,600 THB for a threesome with these fine creatures?
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2140150]I commend you for your generosity. Everyone knows the local Mamasans and doormen could use some extra baht.
For me, I never tip the mamasans or doormen. As for the doormen, I didn't ask them to open the door for me. I can open the door myself. I hold doors open for people all day long who are following me and I don't expect any tip from these people just because I didn't let the door slam behind me.
As for the mamasan, I frankly don't understand why I would give her a tip. She isn't the one who is going to be sucking my dick. Unless she's rendering some special service for me, I just don't see the point. I can see the girls, talk to them, and evaluate them all on my own. Sure, Mamasan knows stuff I don't know. Ok, so the day when I ask her for her advice, then I'll tip her. Until then, all the hasslings for tips are just frankly annoying. Yes, I know she supposedly does tons of shit for the girls. Ok, so the girls can tip her then.
My policy is to not tip anyone except my waitress and even then, the tip remains fairly small. You can call me a cheap Charlie if you want, and you would be right except as to the girls I take out who are good to me. Then, I am not a cheap Charlie.
Just my personal style.[/QUOTE]I totally agree for what you said for tipping Mamasan and Doorman, that these people are simply doing their job. I personally confess even l am a Cheap Charlie and think twice before spending my hard earned money. I never pick model type girls just cause they beautiful. I always tipped girls that were totally involved in the act and were GFE. I personally felt the clubs in Thailand VFM compared to clubs back in my city. Back in my city I generally pay approx 10 USD for 30 ML including taxes while it cost 1/3 in ibar with VIP membership. Moreover I pay approx 3000 baht in spa for an ugly mid aged Thai girl here and I could get stunners, model for that price in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;2140497]So, it would take 8,600 THB for a threesome with these fine creatures?[/QUOTE]More like over 10,000 baht for 1 hour. 3000, 3000, 1500, 1500 plus drinks. And that's if they agree to go. Also by threesome, these girls will only take turns with you and not be into each other because one is lesbian and already has a GF. More than likely everything is covered. It's a horrible idea to take the top 2 prettiest girls from the same club. Awhile back I grabbed 2 girls that gave me great individual performances, but when in a threesome, they acted differently. They don't want the other girl to know if they are doing anything 'bare," because it's still considered unsafe. You really think a top end stunner wants the reputation that she offers "bare" services? Think about their reputation in the club amongst other girls when there is gossip. The stunners won't allow that to happen. , unless you grab girls from possibly different clubs in different areas. The stunners can get away with less performance, so you better have something they desire other than the standard 10,000 for 2 girls. Makes sense? Now if you grab a bunch of ugly ones from a crappy bar like Windmill, Anabelle's, Crazy House, or LK Metro bars, that's a different story. They possibly will perform better in a threesome because most know they are already dirty.
The most I've paid was 30,000 for 2 girls for 3 hours. One worked at Baccara Pattaya and the other at Rainbow 2 Nana. One was a lipstick lesbian, the other was bi-curious but like men. Had a three way in a jacuzzi, bed, pussy eating, vibrator play, double BBBJ, massages, three way sex, CIM only by one. Best experience ever. But they both had to get drunk to enjoy the experience. They both were stunners. Expensive, but worth the price.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;2140330]Angry vibes that evening so I kept walking and some how ended up at Red Point bar. A very busty Issan provider followed me in.
2000 THB including room.
WIR?
Absolutely fuck yes.[/QUOTE]Huh? I made a report last time I was in Red Point in December. I paid 350 for the room and negotiated 700 for the girl. How did you end up paying 2000, unless you are including buying everyone in the place a drink?
[QUOTE=RobJones;2140191]
Recommendations are Windmill, Annabelles, Marilyn Monroes and Wildcats. [/QUOTE]Marilyn Monroe agogo was closed last night. Possibly another gogo bar suffering from their own greed of charging too much for lady drinks. If I owned a gogo bar in this city I would have pretty girls and charge less for lady drinks. Girls would get the same 50 baht per drink and would be happier since customers would buy them more drinks if cheaper.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2140577]Marilyn Monroe agogo was closed last night. Possibly another gogo bar suffering from their own greed of charging too much for lady drinks. If I owned a gogo bar in this city I would have pretty girls and charge less for lady drinks. Girls would get the same 50 baht per drink and would be happier since customers would buy them more drinks if cheaper.[/QUOTE]Actually you would have a hard time doing that. Why? Because if you started undercutting prices you would get some "pressure" from the other bar owners. Also, in order to get "pretty" gals you have to play the horrid "agency" game and that cost. Agencies are exactly why we have high bar fines in BKK and Patters. Before these middle men BFs were 500 Baht and in some cases less.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2140602]Actually you would have a hard time doing that. Why? Because if you started undercutting prices you would get some "pressure" from the other bar owners. Also, in order to get "pretty" gals you have to play the horrid "agency" game and that cost. Agencies are exactly why we have high bar fines in BKK and Patters. Before these middle men BFs were 500 Baht and in some cases less.[/QUOTE]Not to mention he would run out of money to pay the police. Then too, have you checked the price of imported spirits lately? The govt is taxing the shit out of that stuff.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2140577]Marilyn Monroe agogo was closed last night. Possibly another gogo bar suffering from their own greed of charging too much for lady drinks. If I owned a gogo bar in this city I would have pretty girls and charge less for lady drinks. Girls would get the same 50 baht per drink and would be happier since customers would buy them more drinks if cheaper.[/QUOTE]We were in there last Tuesday at the latest! What a difference a week makes. We did buy some lady drinks there but unsure of the prices now but I think on the high end of the scale. I think customer wise it was pretty empty.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2140577] If I owned a gogo bar in this city I would have pretty girls and charge less for lady drinks. Girls would get the same 50 baht per drink and would be happier since customers would buy them more drinks if cheaper.[/QUOTE]I am with you there BB! I didn't like much about HCM City, but the one nice thing was lady drinks being as cheap as my beer!
What do you think? We can pool all of our money and begin recruiting the best of the best to work for us. Ahhh I could daydream about this for hours!
[QUOTE=LewAshby;2140616]I am with you there BB! I didn't like much about HCM City, but the one nice thing was lady drinks being as cheap as my beer!
What do you think? We can pool all of our money and begin recruiting the best of the best to work for us. Ahhh I could daydream about this for hours![/QUOTE]Do you need a hand with the casting couch LOL.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2140617]Do you need a hand with the casting couch LOL.[/QUOTE]Ooooh you may be onto something there RJ. It could be our modern spin on tuktukpatrol / creampiethais!
I guess I have more than daydreams to work with now! Hahaha.
[QUOTE=LewAshby;2140620]Ooooh you may be onto something there RJ. It could be our modern spin on tuktukpatrol / creampiethais!
I guess I have more than daydreams to work with now! Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Could do Lew! First day back at work and planning next trip already. What I thought was bruises on my belly turned out to be bite marks from my encounters at Crazy House on Tuesday night and didn't that take some explaining to the wife about how a bruise could be that shape LOL. Thank God they are so faded that they could be almost anything.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2140623]Could do Lew! First day back at work and planning next trip already. What I thought was bruises on my belly turned out to be bite marks from my encounters at Crazy House on Tuesday night and didn't that take some explaining to the wife about how a bruise could be that shape LOL. Thank God they are so faded that they could be almost anything.[/QUOTE]Haha no matter how great a time, it'll always leave you wanting more! I was planning September for a few days after Japan, but am now considering a week in May, f It!
Glad you didn't get caught by the wife, I had some bruises on my shaft from some overly aggressive / teethy bjs, but I guess having a GF that doesn't like sucking dik paid off for once!
Cheers mate, maybe we'll cross paths yet!
-Lew.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140608]Not to mention he would run out of money to pay the police. [/QUOTE]Exactly why I will never open any business in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140608]Not to mention he would run out of money to pay the police. Then too, have you checked the price of imported spirits lately? The govt is taxing the shit out of that stuff.[/QUOTE]That being said, there are successful farang bar owners in BKK and Pattaya, but they all play by the rules. One of the lessons you learn is that you are not going to change the way things are done here. You either adapt, or whatever you are trying to do will fail. It may not be the way we do it in the West and it may not be the "best" way, but it is the way it is done here, and you're not going to effect that.
I was on LK Metro last night and a place called Gold was closed up. I asked the girl at the bar in front of it why it was closed and she said they didn't have money to pay the police.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140655]I asked the girl at the bar in front of it why it was closed and she said they didn't have money to pay the police.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the police are killing the golden goose. Asking for too much from the bars that have not as many customers and those they do have are not buying as many overpriced ladies drinks or spending as much on bar fines.
I was in Bangkok about 10 days ago and the bar I was in at Soi Cowboy closed down early because the police told all bars to close. It was Baccara but I can't remember the time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140655]I was on LK Metro last night and a place called Gold was closed up. I asked the girl at the bar in front of it why it was closed and she said they didn't have money to pay the police.[/QUOTE]Gold closed long ago. I believe it only stayed open for a week or two.
Soapy Massage.
Found a 22 yo slim beautiful girl in Honey 2 body massage (soapy). Very nice experience. Would repeat.
Checked line up in Honey 1 body massage. Didn't find what I look for. There were too many Indian groups hanging around in there.
Beach Road:
Very large nuber of girls after 10 pm. Makes Choice really difficult:
- one 100% perfect (25 yo, slim, "model" style body, nice ass etc.). Would so much like to repeat!
- one quoted 2500 for LT. Was good but wanted to leave after 1 h because she was too tired. She actually gave me back 1000 after long negotiations. But she was far too tired to sleep elsewhere than in her room. Found her 1 hour later back on beach road. She was just negotiating with a few Indians without success. Then she told me that she is just waiting for her lady friend and found lots of interesting stories to explain why she was waiting there.
- one said 2500 for LT. Was not good, she didn't like me (how can that be? And wanted to leave after 20 or 30 minutes. Paid 1000. She is probably smart and makes a lot of business that way.
Walking Street.
Wildcat gogo: Didn't plan to do anything but No. 22 gave me so bautiful smiles that I didn't resist. She does ST only, 2000 plus 1000 bar fine plus 250 for lady drink and my beer. She made me so happy!
Happy gogo: Nice girls, but rather boring atmosphere.
Baccara: same as happy.
Massage in soi honey (end of soi towards soi buakhao).
- oil massage for 200/ h. But still on the street after 3 seconds they make it clear that its a boom boom massage for 1200. Nice hot girls are available here and there.
- took one of them to my hotel room for 1500 for 90 minutes. Perfect body, couldn't imagine anything better. And she was sweet and nice, good DFK etc.
(there are many massage places in that area. Not all have doable girls available but a few have. And you need only one.).
Soi 6.
(checked line up only).
- one day I thought that there are a few really nice attractive interesting girls.
- the other day I would not have found a companion for me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140655]I was on LK Metro last night and a place called Gold was closed up. I asked the girl at the bar in front of it why it was closed and she said they didn't have money to pay the police.[/QUOTE]It has been closed for sometime, as noted It closed for a while and then re-opened and then close for good. Your not missing a thing, even the short time it was open it was junk the Expat who opened it had no idea what he was doing so no surprise. How I know he had a website on another forum and got ripped apart.
First time visitor to Pattaya and I would say I really like this place. I decided to go the club route so started at Miami on walking street did not like the talent there so hit another club before my last stop which was Insomnia. The club was really packed so I found me a spot to stand near the bathroom just waiting for the right one to come by. I met a very cute women 25 and petite that I drink and dance with before we made a agreement of $2000 for long time. She was there with her friend which I felt up and down in the club which was gorgeous. She say her friend only go with Koreans because they pay 4000. BBBJ which was so so and sex was also just ok.
Day 2: Since I was staying at View Talay 6 I decided to hit the beer complex across the street. Met a nice Thai women 29 spinner which is what I normally go for. She didn't want to do BJ but I talk her into it but it was awful. Sex was good and I still enjoyed her company. Damage 2000 and 300 barfine.
Day 3 : Went back to same bar complex were I saw one I like so I ask her would she give BJ and she say no. But point at another girl who would but was not attracted to her. I decided to walk to Soi 7 where I met a 25 yr slim spinner which I did not negotiate requirements because it was already 4:30 and I had consumed a lot of beverages so I offered 2000 and 300 barfine which she agreed saying she would leave at 7. No BJ from her but I did not push the issue but still had a great time with her and she didn't leave until after 1 pm.
I always laugh when I read some of these posts complaining about how things work in "other" countries. Have spent a fair amount of time in Boston, NYC, down south, and Europe. You find that every place has their MO and rules. If you don't follow the rules, you can be in big trouble. Hell's Kitchen did not earn its name from the diner ovens. South Boston did not get its reputation from friendly bars. Look at the cities down south. And talk about government taxes, look at the US and Europe.
The difference is that most people on this forum grew up with and are familiar with the rules in the West. Many forget what caused the Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution.
For most of us visitors to LOS, the rules we focus on is BF, LD, and LT ST rates. Whether it be MP's game rules or Mr. E's LP guide.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2140648]That being said, there are successful farang bar owners in BKK and Pattaya, but they all play by the rules. One of the lessons you learn is that you are not going to change the way things are done here. You either adapt, or whatever you are trying to do will fail. It may not be the way we do it in the West and it may not be the "best" way, but it is the way it is done here, and you're not going to effect that.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BananaBoi;2140638]Exactly why I will never open any business in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140608]Not to mention he would run out of money to pay the police. Then too, have you checked the price of imported spirits lately? The govt is taxing the shit out of that stuff.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JWCool;2140746]She didn't want to do BJ but I talk her into it but it was awful. Sex was good and I still enjoyed her company. Damage 2000 and 300 barfine.
No BJ from her but I did not push the issue but still had a great time with her and she didn't leave until after 1 pm.[/QUOTE]Who are these working girls who don't want to give blowjobs?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2140233] Paid was 3000 plus 300 tip, 1500 barfine and about 1000 in drinks. Mo gets a Monkeypaw 2 paws up![/QUOTE]You paid more than 8000 THB to get threesome. I don't think you get your money's worth. You can pay 4000 THB to get the threesome in Devil's Den in a mirror room. Why did you want to pay more?
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2140898]You paid more than 8000 THB to get threesome. I don't think you get your money's worth. You can get the threesome in Devil's Den in a mirror room. Why did you want to pay more?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. But look at it this way, when you are hungry, you can get full eating at home, at a Thai street food stall on Beach Road, McDonald's near Beach Road 13/1 or the Hooters Pattaya, next to it. Hopefully you understand that analogy. It's what separates those with higher rationale from others. Unfortunately, we are not all blessed by God with the same abilities and powers to get what we want out of life.
Reasons I pay more.
1. To get the exact experience that I want.
2. To get the exact girls I want.
3. To get it at the exact time I want.
4. To get it done at the exact place I want.
5. And money to me ain't shit.
And "no" I'm not rich. Hell, I don't even work or have a job. And technically, I'm homeless. Think of it like I have "unexplainable powers" that can get me what I need or want day by day. This includes this lame ass evil thing called "money" that people worship like their god.
P.S: girls at Devi's Den versus the stunner girls in in their lower 20's at the Go Go Bars? And besides my place is more cleaner and nicer. One bed for sleep, one bed for raunchiness.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2140898]You paid more than 8000 THB to get threesome. I don't think you get your money's worth. You can pay 4000 THB to get the threesome in Devil's Den in a mirror room. Why did you want to pay more?[/QUOTE]Those chicks must be related to this WeChat chick. It is a wonder she gets any customers, but I guess there is a pot for every lid.
This FR has been a long time coming. My wingman and I were in Pattaya for 3 nights and his reason for visiting was mostly CIS girls and his Thai regular from his previous visits. So, spent most of our time on WS in an Indian club Nashaa, which have to admit is not half bad. Ended up with a couple of nice Uzbeks on two separate occasions. One named Marina asked 7 k THB for LT. Sits at one of the tables close to the entrance of the club. Although, in her clothes she looked nice but back at my place, could clearly see the magic of push-up padded bras. Seems there is no way one can actually be sure of the quality of the goods in these clubs owing to dimly lit interiors and the methods used by these WGs to hide their flaws. Anyhow, she asks for money upfront. At this point, I am thinking that this thing may go south pretty fast. But, I show her that I have the money and agree to put it aside to put her mind at ease. She agrees to this. After a few minutes of useless talk, she puts on some Arabic music and starts gyrating to it. And she has some moves. So, if you are looking for some entertainment I. E. Belly dance style at no extra cost, I can recommend her. DFK is essential for me and she gladly offered it and quite passionately so. So can't complain there. Also, she's got some mouth on her and all the naughty talk was a bit of a turn on as well. So, apart from the initial scare of her asking money upfront, things went nicely. Stayed for around 5-6 hours. All the usual services were on the table so won't elaborate here. Didn't tip her for the obvious downers mentioned above. WIR - No.
On the second night had an experience with another Uzbek - Camila, which was significantly better. Will write a detailed FR soon. Ciao.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140997]Those chicks must be related to this WeChat chick. It is a wonder she gets any customers, but I guess there is a pot for every lid.[/QUOTE]OMG look at them prices, is she working out in Australia 555.
Have a question about the song Karan festival 2018 in Pattaya from April 11th till April 19th. Is it advicable to visit Pattaya during this time? Are the bars and clubs and gogos open during these days? Availability of girls? Will appreciate an early reply from the experienced souls in mongering point of view.
Cheers.
This experience was clearly better than the one I had the day before. At Nashaa, my buddy and I were having a good time, listening to music and just relaxing with no intention of takeaway that evening. I take a round of the club and lay my eyes on this sexy number in a figure hugging black dress and immediately I knew that I may not end up alone that night. As she was already engaged with a couple of guys, I take a position close by and go into observe mode. After a while, I could make out from their body language that, although they were seated together, no deal had been struck. A couple of other guys approaching her were quoted 7 k THB and moved swiftly on. I am in no particular hurry and am patiently watching the proceedings. In another couple of hours, the guy at her table has had too much to drink and makes a few attempts, albeit unsuccessful, to grope her, leaving her clearly annoyed. Every now and then she would look in my direction, hoping to be rescued from the loutish behaviour or atleast that is what I'd like to think. LOL. So, I take this opportunity and approach her and to my surprise I get quoted only 5 k THB when, in fact, I had clearly heard her quoting 7 k THB to atleast 2-3 guys. So, I whisk her away. To be continued.
I started my afternoon off deciding I would go to the movies but first I would get a massage so walked passed Central Festival toward the intersection and then I took a right at the light. Passed maybe five massage parlors before I decided to stop, there is a pharmacy with a white and green sign across the street. She was mid thirties nice figure face was just ok but she had good energy. When I got undress and laid down when she came in she started massage without putting a towel over me so I knew it was more than a massage going on. After she finished massage she asked what did I want and I told her blowjob CIM. She agreed 500 for BJ and 250 for oily massage. Service was good may see if the other two girls out front provide the same service they were more attractive.
That evening took a nap did not wake up until 2 am so I walked down Soi 7 did not see anything catch my eye so decided to the walk beach road but did not see anything interest me. It's about 3 am now was thinking about calling it a night but decided to go to the beer complex and have a few drink and met three Australian guys who were getting hammered which livened up my night. After about a hour of drinking with these guys I went toward the back bar to see if the girl I got the awful blow job was there and she was. I told her blowjob no good I will take you long time 1500 plus 300 barfine and she agreed. She is really great GFE just lack the desire to go all in on a BJ.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141106]This experience was clearly better than the one I had the day before. At Nashaa, my buddy and I were having a good time, listening to music and just relaxing with no intention of takeaway that evening. I take a round of the club and lay my eyes on this sexy number in a figure hugging black dress and immediately I knew that I may not end up alone that night. As she was already engaged with a couple of guys, I take a position close by and go into observe mode. After a while, I could make out from their body language that, although they were seated together, no deal had been struck. A couple of other guys approaching her were quoted 7 k THB and moved swiftly on. I am in no particular hurry and am patiently watching the proceedings. In another couple of hours, the guy at her table has had too much to drink and makes a few attempts, albeit unsuccessful, to grope her, leaving her clearly annoyed. Every now and then she would look in my direction, hoping to be rescued from the loutish behaviour or atleast that is what I'd like to think. LOL. So, I take this opportunity and approach her and to my surprise I get quoted only 5 k THB when, in fact, I had clearly heard her quoting 7 k THB to atleast 2-3 guys. So, I whisk her away. To be continued.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear a report on something a little different instead of the tired old 1 K vs 3 k at Ibar, how to save 300 on the room on Soi 6, etc discourse.
5-7 K sounds a bit steep but these CIS girls do ask for a premium. I may have a peek as I've never been with an Uzbek. Would a white dude be welcome in this joint?
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2140882]Who are these working girls who don't want to give blowjobs?[/QUOTE]Don't want to -80%. Will for cash -99%.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2140898]You paid more than 8000 THB to get threesome. I don't think you get your money's worth. You can pay 4000 THB to get the threesome in Devil's Den in a mirror room. Why did you want to pay more?[/QUOTE]I keep hearing about the devils den, could someone tell me where it's located. I will be in Pattaya tomorrow?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2141152]Would a white dude be welcome in this joint?[/QUOTE]It's not a problem so long as you adhere to the dress code. Unlike many gogo bars, Indian nightclubs don't have a racist door policy. Explore for yourself and you will come out having a different view about Indian guys after seeing wads of THBs being showered on the belly dancers and dance girls on the stage in a matter of seconds. It's unlike anything you would have witnessed in any gogo bar and I speak from experience having been to the best of gogo bars and also Indian nightclubs. One night after being in Nashaa for a while, we went to Mixx and the atmosphere sucked big time. It was 'buy one drink and get another drink of the same kind free' night and we ordered a couple of Red Bulls. However, the club was so dead that we didn't even finish our first drink and left after 15 minutes or so. The waiter was also a little surprised when he saw us leaving so soon with unopened bottles of Red Bulls still at our table. So, the fact that many gogo bars/clubs have this racist door policy is totally not justified. I mean, I have seen Indian guys blowing thousands of THBs on dancing girls without batting an eyelid. So, just imagine what it would do for the business of any gogo bar if such big spenders were allowed in and treated with respect. Also, when it comes to LT for CIS in Pattaya, the least I have been quoted is 5 K, which is more in comparison to Thai girls in gogo bars. So, the fact that the Uzbek contingent is present in full force in Pattaya to cater to their main clientele I. E. Indians is a clear testimony to the fact that the select Indian crowd is capable of putting anyone to shame when it comes to spending big. This is just my opinion and I don't want to stir the pot and start another discussion on Indian dudes in LOS etc. Feel free to disagree. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141214] Indian nightclubs. One night after being in Nashaa [/QUOTE]What is the cover charge? I have tried to go to other Indian nightclubs before and I think it was a 300 baht cover.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2141224]What is the cover charge? I have tried to go to other Indian nightclubs before and I think it was a 300 baht cover.[/QUOTE]At Nashaa, there is no cover charge. However, just as you are seated, the waiter will put a drinks menu in front of you and you are expected to order atleast a beer or a cola. But once you do that, they leave you alone and you can enjoy for quite some time without being bothered again.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141106]This experience was clearly better than the one I had the day before. At Nashaa, my buddy and I were having a good time, listening to music and just relaxing with no intention of takeaway that evening. I take a round of the club and lay my eyes on this sexy number in a figure hugging black dress and immediately I knew that I may not end up alone that night. As she was already engaged with a couple of guys, I take a position close by and go into observe mode. After a while, I could make out from their body language that, although they were seated together, no deal had been struck. A couple of other guys approaching her were quoted 7 k THB and moved swiftly on. I am in no particular hurry and am patiently watching the proceedings. In another couple of hours, the guy at her table has had too much to drink and makes a few attempts, albeit unsuccessful, to grope her, leaving her clearly annoyed. Every now and then she would look in my direction, hoping to be rescued from the loutish behaviour or atleast that is what I'd like to think. LOL. So, I take this opportunity and approach her and to my surprise I get quoted only 5 k THB when, in fact, I had clearly heard her quoting 7 k THB to atleast 2-3 guys. So, I whisk her away. To be continued.[/QUOTE]Back at my place, the experience is all good and the girl is very compliant with no attitude problems. She wishes to smoke but I ask her not to since the room is non-smoking. She politely agrees. Had a problem with other girls regarding this on a few prior occasions. Initially, she was a little reluctant when it came to DFK. When I asked her what the problem was, she said her breath was off-putting because of all the drinking and smoking. When I told her it was not an issue, she agreed almost immediately. Service was pretty good and what I remember particularly was the way she buried her face in the pillow to suppress her loud moans as I did her in mish. Props to her as this was quite a turn on. She seemed to genuinely enjoy the whole thing and it was a true GFE. After sleeping on and off for a couple of hours, finish the experience with a CBJ (my choice), which she performed very dedicatedly. Afterwards, spent some time lazying around and playing some fun games and stuff, which was nice too. She stayed till about 8.30 in the morning and was quite reluctant to leave. Left only after her lady 'boss' called thrice in a matter of 5 minutes or so. Hell, I even talked to the boss and she told me that all her other girls had come back by 6-6.30 and that if she did not leave soon, she (the boss) would make problem for money. I didn't want to push my luck as I have heard about the 'Thai-Uzbek Ring'. So, let her go with a handsome tip. Not going to mention how much, as I don't want to invite the ire of the fellow hobbysists here, but it was significant. Overall experience was very good with a girl who was fit, with a nice tight body, polite and ZERO attitude. WIR - Yes. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=OnePic;2141188]I keep hearing about the devils den, could someone tell me where it's located. I will be in Pattaya tomorrow?[/QUOTE]Soi LK Metro.
[QUOTE=OnePic;2141188]I keep hearing about the devils den, could someone tell me where it's located. I will be in Pattaya tomorrow?[/QUOTE]Its next to the retirement home, easier for the girls to walk to work.
[QUOTE=OnePic;2141188]I keep hearing about the devils den, could someone tell me where it's located. I will be in Pattaya tomorrow?[/QUOTE]
Are you for some reason unable to type "Devil's Den Pattaya" into Google? It shows a map right up on top.
[QUOTE=OnePic;2141188]I keep hearing about the devils den, could someone tell me where it's located. I will be in Pattaya tomorrow?[/QUOTE]It is just off Soi Buakhao and Soi Diana which starts on 2nd Road, across from Mike Shopping, start of the corner is Kiss Restaurant. The. The. Is located in a L shape courtyard name L. K Metro. It is across from Billlibong Beer Bar, next to Golf Club Cafe!
Another note, although I don't get there often due to distant Kinnaree GClub is nice. I was the driver only and didn't really have the desired this afternoon. While I was sitting just watching and waiting a girl came out she didn't recognize me but I her. Six month or so I was at a Go Go called G-spots now Annabelles. G-spot, really had at best a hand full of girls worth looking. Once this girl was sitting next to me and another customer and I overheard her rate 3000ST / 4-5000 for LT. This was one that I might have taken after it change name I never saw her again. Well, she didn't remember me but I her ended up taking her to the room 1000 Baht ST.
Now I got no game like Mr. E. Rather just pay and be done with it. I was thinking during the act. I'm saving 2000 baht for the same girl and I got no game whatsoever on top of that I hit the 1100 mark so I got a rack of ribs with it. The best part when you are done girls don't give a shit about you they move on like a meat market and so can you without getting any heat.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2141397]It is just off Soi Buakhao and Soi Diana which starts on 2nd Road, across from Mike Shopping, start of the corner is Kiss Restaurant. The. The. Is located in a L shape courtyard name L. K Metro. It is across from Billlibong Beer Bar, next to Golf Club Cafe!
Another note, although I don't get there often due to distant Kinnaree GClub is nice. I was the driver only and didn't really have the desired this afternoon. While I was sitting just watching and waiting a girl came out she didn't recognize me but I her. Six month or so I was at a Go Go called G-spots now Annabelles. G-spot, really had at best a hand full of girls worth looking. Once this girl was sitting next to me and another customer and I overheard her rate 3000ST / 4-5000 for LT. This was one that I might have taken after it change name I never saw her again. Well, she didn't remember me but I her ended up taking her to the room 1000 Baht ST.
Now I got no game like Mr. E. Rather just pay and be done with it. I was thinking during the act. I'm saving 2000 baht for the same girl and I got no game whatsoever on top of that I hit the 1100 mark so I got a rack of ribs with it. The best part when you are done girls don't give a shit about you they move on like a meat market and so can you without getting any heat.[/QUOTE]Brilliant report and exactly what P4 P is all about to me as well.
Hi guys,
After my experience at Soapy and then a Bar girl ST, started off towards Walking street. Took a bike taxi. These things are awesome. Need some of these back home too.
Anyways, Walking street was a revelation. Compared to the deserted look in the afternoon, it was now teeming with people. One GoGo after another. Beautiful babes in skimpy clothes holding signs trying to attract customers inside. Some guys trying to lure with ping pong scheme.
For a first time visitor like me, it was quite a scene. I am sure that feeling will always stay no matter how many times I come here.
Zeroed in on Peppermint. Club was half full. Lots of girls though. 2 stages. Quite a few beauties. Nice energy. Took up a seat, ordered a cola. After a while asked one of the dancers to sit with me. Offered her a lady drink.
Stayed around 2 hrs there. I drink only cola. Haha. Anyway she let me fondle her and kiss her.
Came out of the club as I wanted to explore Baccara.
More crowded. Girls seem younger and more beautiful. But mostly Japanese or Korean customers I think.
Chatted with a girl. Offered lady drinks to a couple of her friends as well.
Was interested in LT. But the girl won't stay beyond 4 am. So I refused. She quoted 3000ST for 3 hrs including Barfine. Agreed. Maybe I overpaid. Don't know.
Came back in a bike taxi. (great transport haha).
No issues at the hotel.
Had a great session. She was GFE except a bit reluctant in DFK. Went out to have dinner nearby. Let her choose a Thai dish. She herself offered to come back up again. I told her I can't do second time so soon. But don't know why but she insisted on coming back. Gave a nice BBBJ although I couldn't come. Left around 2 am.
Had a nice sound sleep. My first night a Pattaya.
Quite an eventful day.
Reposting my previous question again as could not find it in the forum yet.
How will be nightlife in Pattaya during Songkran festival in April between 11th till 20th. Is it advisable to visit in these days? Or should I skip it and go to some where else. Am not sure the massage / clubs / go go's / will be working during Songkran.
For Valentines, Monkeypaw wanted it to a bit special for the ladies. So I decided to treat Go Go bar on Walking Street that I create the most drama for these girls. At Palace, they love me and hate me and same time. The hotter girls typically don't like it when they work so hard to get a regular customer, then that customer swaps them out for another girl in the the club. They aren't all friends just because they work together. Girls will still be girls, and the hotter ones or stunners still get jealous. I still find it amazing that I've gotten away with swapping out 24 times at Palace. So anyways I got all the dancers and staff at Palace dinner on Valentines Day by having 10 "heart" shaped pizzas delivered to the club, while I was chilling at Baccara. Later I stopped by to hang out with a few dancers. If you were there and a saw a all the girls come bow and had their hands in prayer to a younger Asian guy full of tattoos, then you were lucky to have a glimpse on the Monkeypaw.
Afterwards, I rewarded my myself with a long, blurred night with some of my favorite girls from different clubs from Walking Street, Nana, and Soi Cowboy, plenty of booze, porn, and sex. You know, typically fucking, sucking, licking, moans and groans etc etc. You don't want to know the total damage in costs. It's all about the memories made, not the money. And besides, it's not like I paid for it. Not even sure whose money it is. Thank you Life for footing the bill.
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2141097]Have a question about the song Karan festival 2018 in Pattaya from April 11th till April 19th. Is it advicable to visit Pattaya during this time? Are the bars and clubs and gogos open during these days? Availability of girls? Will appreciate an early reply from the experienced souls in mongering point of view.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Do you think you will like having ice cold buckets of water dumped on your head 24/7 for a week? Do you think you will like being bombarded and and 'attacked' with water from all sides by 5 or 10 people at once 24/7 for a week, even when you're sick after the first day due to the disgusting water?
Do you think you will like sitting in freezing cold air conditioned gogos whilst you are dripping water head to toes including of course in your shoes and soggy balls?
My view is: It's hard to concentrate on getting a fuck when this is occurring. It distracts one from the main purpose.
One or two days is OK. But you're better off avoiding those dates or spending most of them in BKK in my opinion.
But yes, you can still get girls no problem.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2138714]I enjoy walking too. Often, when I visited a soapy on Soi 2 (Sabai Dee, Honey 2), typically around 4-6 pm, I ended up taking a leisurely walk on beach road all the way to Walking street. I used to stay at P72 inside WS, and loved it. These days I like Soy 10 better, as I don't stay late much. I am an older fart now who still enjoys Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I enjoy the walks as well!. Walked at times to Soi Buakhao, Chaiyaphoon and Soi Diana late nights and never left with a "full sack" if you know what I mean. Asides from that, Soi 10 has always been great for me. I mainly stay at Sawasdee Sea View when in Pattaya. Its just a walk down to BR and you'll be swamped with Thai women. Fat, old, young, haggardly, beautiful, etc. Some are just DYING to get laid and willing to do it on the cheap. A little while ago when I was strolling BR, one woman who was pretty short and old, balding on the top and, missing a couple of teeth approached me was willing to have "some fun" for 300 BHT. I declined her offer and told her "Maybe another time"
I've done some uglies before but that one was a oh-hell-no!. LOL!.
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2141432]Reposting my previous question again as could not find it in the forum yet.
How will be nightlife in Pattaya during Songkran festival in April between 11th till 20th. Is it advisable to visit in these days? Or should I skip it and go to some where else. Am not sure the massage / clubs / go go's / will be working during Songkran.[/QUOTE]In my experience is the worst week for monger in Pattaya, I tried once in 2011 and never again in my life, I really hated Songkran. I know many expat who leave Thailand for one week during Songkran. But some guys love it. Check some youtube videos to get you an idea. Everythings are open (some places will be close in the final days 18th - 19th) but girls are more focused on party, drinks and shoot water around. Also many girls will go home for spend the holiday with their family, but anyway there is no lack of girls.
My advice is to avoid it, then up to you.
[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2141567]Do you think you will like having ice cold buckets of water dumped on your head 24/7 for a week? Do you think you will like being bombarded and and 'attacked' with water from all sides by 5 or 10 people at once 24/7 for a week, even when you're sick after the first day due to the disgusting water?[/QUOTE]Sometimes it is not only water. Just sayin' 555.
SL.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2141715]In my experience is the worst week for monger in Pattaya, I tried once in 2011 and never again in my life, I really hated Songkran. I know many expat who leave Thailand for one week during Songkran. But some guys love it. Check some youtube videos to get you an idea. Everythings are open (some places will be close in the final days 18th - 19th) but girls are more focused on party, drinks and shoot water around. Also many girls will go home for spend the holiday with their family, but anyway there is no lack of girls.
My advice is to avoid it, then up to you.[/QUOTE]I went a few years ago during this time, thinking it wouldn't be that bad, but it turned out to be just that. Never again for me. The only way to avoid getting drenched is to either go out early before noon or late evening, when the shenanigans subside. I also noticed that as the week went on all the money exchange booths were closing up, limiting your money exchange options.
Anyways, YMMV. Heed the warnings and check out some Youtube videos and then decide if it's for you. You (the OP) might love it. Either way, LOS is still good.
Hey friends,
Wanted to ask.
Heard a lot about Naru massage is it different from soapy?
Best place to have it (have seen in Devils Den website).
Want to try something really different. Something memorable. Any suggestions.
Any place to get a good sex toy.
Thanks,
Vinay.
[QUOTE=Vinay1972;2142111]Hey friends,
Wanted to ask.
Heard a lot about Naru massage is it different from soapy?
Best place to have it (have seen in Devils Den website).
Want to try something really different. Something memorable. Any suggestions.
Any place to get a good sex toy.
Thanks,
Vinay.[/QUOTE]First of all, it's Nuru and not Naru. Yes, it's different from soapy massage as it's done with Nuru gel that has stress relieving properties and is well worth trying. Idk whether the MPs offering this style of massage in Pattaya use the real stuff or is it just hyped up to trap unsuspecting customers. About trying something different, let me tell you that if this is your first visit, everything is going to be memorable and different. LOL. However, if you have any specific query, which you would like answered, let me know via PM and I may be able to help. Good luck out there.
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2141432]Reposting my previous question again as could not find it in the forum yet.
How will be nightlife in Pattaya during Songkran festival in April between 11th till 20th. Is it advisable to visit in these days? Or should I skip it and go to some where else. Am not sure the massage / clubs / go go's / will be working during Songkran.[/QUOTE]Avoid Songran at all costs. It is the worst time to visit the LOS. I have made the mistake of being there in Thailand and indeed other SEA countries like Cambodia and found it to be most unpleasant. Alter your travel plans. Yours in mongering.
Johnie.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2141717]Sometimes it is not only water. Just sayin' 555.
SL.[/QUOTE]Yes sometimes some very exotic concoctions have been known to fill a water gun and bucket during Songkran.
Protect your eyes, ears, nose and mouth at all costs if you get involved and take some of those ziplock sandwich bags for your phone, wedge etc.
[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2141567]Do you think you will like having ice cold buckets of water dumped on your head 24/7 for a week? Do you think you will like being bombarded and and 'attacked' with water from all sides by 5 or 10 people at once 24/7 for a week, even when you're sick after the first day due to the disgusting water?
Do you think you will like sitting in freezing cold air conditioned gogos whilst you are dripping water head to toes including of course in your shoes and soggy balls?
My view is: It's hard to concentrate on getting a fuck when this is occurring. It distracts one from the main purpose.
One or two days is OK. But you're better off avoiding those dates or spending most of them in BKK in my opinion.
But yes, you can still get girls no problem.[/QUOTE]Bangkok won't be any better, trust me. You vs get soaked wet even in a BTS station waiting for your train.
Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Or just stay there 1 day.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2142507]First of all, it's Nuru and not Naru. Yes, it's different from soapy massage as it's done with Nuru gel that has stress relieving properties and is well worth trying. Idk whether the MPs offering this style of massage in Pattaya use the real stuff or is it just hyped up to trap unsuspecting customers. About trying something different, let me tell you that if this is your first visit, everything is going to be memorable and different. LOL. However, if you have any specific query, which you would like answered, let me know via PM and I may be able to help. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]I enjoy visiting Thailand as much for the massages as for the sex. After my last visit there in 2015 all my muscular aches and pains were gone, only to return a few weeks afterwards back home.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2142911]Bangkok won't be any better, trust me. You vs get soaked wet even in a BTS station waiting for your train.
[/QUOTE]Yes, but at least in BKK 15th will be the last day, in Pattaya Songkran lasts until 19th. Anyway always avoid Songkran for me.
I've had 3 BJs so far in the soi 6 BJ shops and I couldn't finish once. Same happened with oil massage with "happy end". However hard I've tried to concentrate the happy end has remained elusive. The shabby surroundings are not to blame. I had been accustomed of getting such services from girls with looks or skills and the providers here tend to lack both.
I'd had an eye on a good-looking masseuse here near 2nd Road for some days but she again turned out to be part of the management. Better-looking girls managing run-down ones seems a hall-mark of the oil massage business in Pattaya.
I read good reviews on here so decided to give the club a try. I arrived around 1:30 that night and right away I like the vibe of the place. As soon as you sit someone will ask you what you would like to drink. As long as there is a drink in front you they want ask you but if the glass get empty they will ask right away. When I sat down there was no one around me but after I took a sip of my drink I had 6 ladies sitting behind me. I struck up a conversation with a blonde Ukraine who ask me to buy her a drink. It was very difficult to understand anything she said so I ask her how much for long time. She said she was there in school studying Thai and was not working.
After sitting there for a moment I could not understand her and did not trust she was not working so I got up to scope out the club. This waitress there kept grabbing my ass saying I want you but that night I was not looking for Thai women. As I went around the club I ended back at the Ukrainian table so I say to her let's go and she followed me. She wanted me to go to her room on walking street but I told her to come to mine. We stopped at 7'11 where she wanted some type of bottle of white liquor which I paid for. When we got back in the room and sat on the balcony drinking as I was trying to get her to come to bed but she had her mind made up she was going to drink the entire bottle.
By the time she finished it was after 8 the next morning before we got down to business. Face 6/10 body 7/10 look really good when she remove her close, BBBJ 6/10, sex 8/10. When she got dress late that afternoon she said give me money for moto taxi so I gave her 1000 baht then walk her out and gave her a hug and kiss and said goodbye. She had a Green Cobra tattooed at her waist line. I would not repeat with her because I don't like to work that hard or stay up all night.
This is my last morning in Pattaya and my favorite bar girl did not deliver in our final session. Two hours before I leave decided to go get some breakfast and came across the only attractive African I have seen on my trip. I ask her how much she say 2000 short time I say let's go. I did not have time to negotiate. When she took off her dress I can't remember the last time I saw a body that look that good. Her performance was the best on my two week trip just wished I would have met her early. BBBJ 7/10 sex 10/10 body 10/10 face 6/10 DFK.
During my visit, last December, I sampled a BR FL. Normally, I'd never go for BR WGs but wanted to try once so that I could cross it off my list. As you guys know, the breeze at night time is quite chilly and these girls, unlike gogo promo girls, tend to be more covered up, which makes selection process a little tricky. So, I made it a point to focus my attention on the ones that were wearing somewhat revealing outfits so that I could, atleast, gauge their figure. This chick, I think her name was Maki or something, don't remember exactly, was wearing ultra short shorts and a crop top and I could, more or less, make out her figure and she had nice, long legs. She quoted me 2k THB LT, which I deemed to be reasonable. I remember there was a discussion on this thread regarding what sort of action is available for a hobbyist on a budget. Although, I didn't have any budgetary issues, but can confirm from experience that decent looking BR FLs can be found for 2k THB LT or, maybe, even less. Remember, I didn't negotiate. We walked back to my place and after the initial chit-chat, we hopped into the shower, where she let me explore every inch of her tight body without any fuss and I remember spending a good deal of time enjoying her firm and shapely butt. In my experience, the girls that have sexy legs tend to have buttocks to complement them and vice-versa. On the bed, she starts with a BBBJ, which I normally tend to avoid for health reasons, even at high end places, and to have accepted it from a BR WG is something which surprises me even now. But then again, in such situations, you tend to get careless sometimes. FS was ok in mostly mish and a little doggy and as I was feeling a little tired, having walked around quite a bit earlier during the day, didn't make any effort to prolong the session and finished in about 10-15 minutes. By this time it was almost 3.30-4 in the morning and as I was totally spent, decided to forego the second round, tipped her 200 THB, and asked her to leave. On the flipside, the girl had average looks and had slightly hairy forearms. Rest of her body was clean, so, I don't know why she couldn't take care of her arms. During my visits, I spend a good deal of time exploring the BR scene and have found that persistence pays here more than anywhere else. If you spend long periods of time on BR and take a walk up and down the stretch a good 3-4 times, you will significantly improve your chances of finding that hottie. This can be simply because of varying schedule of coming and going of different WGs. They might be gone for ST when you are exploring or may come before or after you are there etc. So, if you stick around long enough, there are gems to be found. Another day, I found atleast 7-8 chicks on BR, who, IMO, were quite stunning and worthy of any good soapy or gogo. Just my thoughts. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=JWCool;2143218]I read good reviews on here so decided to give the club a try. I arrived around 1:30 that night and right away I like the vibe of the place.[/QUOTE]I have been to this place several times and have written detailed FRs. If you plan to go to this joint again, I'd strongly recommend going a little early, maybe around 11, because if you go late, as you did, quite a few hotter girls have already been selected and have left by then. Enjoy!
You stayed up all night so you could bang a 6/10 face? To each his own but man, you have a LOT of patience!
[QUOTE=JWCool;2143218]
By the time she finished it was after 8 the next morning before we got down to business. Face 6/10 body 7/10 look really good when she remove her close, BBBJ 6/10, sex 8/10. When she got dress late that afternoon she said give me money for moto taxi so I gave her 1000 baht then walk her out and gave her a hug and kiss and said goodbye. She had a Green Cobra tattooed at her waist line. I would not repeat with her because I don't like to work that hard or stay up all night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2143294]Another day, I found atleast 7-8 chicks on BR, who, IMO, were quite stunning and worthy of any good soapy or gogo. Just my thoughts. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Looks like we have found a convert, but 2000 baht on Beach Rd? Oh my Buddha! I came back from Phnom Penh yesterday and was eating dinner at the Thai place on Soi Buakhao when a buddy walked in. He vacations here frequently. He asked me if I ever go down to Beach Road to get chicks. I told him every blue moon and that one of the best chicks I have ever had I got there. He said that is the only place he ever goes and most of the time he gets them for 300. I felt like a jackazz. All these years I have been paying them 400. Things are about to change around here!
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2143294]On the flipside, the girl had average looks and had slightly hairy forearms. Rest of her body was clean, so, I don't know why she couldn't take care of her arms. Enjoy![/QUOTE]And she was very hesitant to remove her socks. She wouldn't let me take a picture of her hairy arms, but I did manage to sneak a pic of her feet.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143510]Looks like we have found a convert, but 2000 baht on Beach Rd? Oh my Buddha! I came back from Phnom Penh yesterday and was eating dinner at the Thai place on Soi Buakhao when a buddy walked in. He vacations here frequently. He asked me if I ever go down to Beach Road to get chicks. I told him every blue moon and that one of the best chicks I have ever had I got there. He said that is the only place he ever goes and most of the time he gets them for 300. I felt like a jackazz. All these years I have been paying them 400. Things are about to change around here![/QUOTE]You sure your friend isn't confusing Beach Rd. With Bush Mtn. LOL!
Haha I felt I had went to far to not complete what I started and because she never gave me a price I guess I put up with more than I would otherwise. It was also the first Ukrainian girl I had been with. I took a selfie with her if someone let me know how to block my face out I will post.
It really looked like the African girl who was to come over at 3 pm had stood me up so with the sildenafil kicking in I hurried to the nearest soapie, which was Honey 1.
The tiers were two-thirds full but what a collection of unerotic wax figures! Stocky rectangular-shaped bodies, tits squelched in solid frame bras, bland lunar faces set in conventional smiles. I picked a 2500 baht girl only to regret my choice the moment she stood up. Figures like hers were a dime a dozen on Beach Road.
Shortly before 4 pm my African quarry messaged me to say she'd overslept. I told her to get her ass over double quick, which she did.
Honey1, 2500 bahts, wasted.
ST with afro girl 1500 bahts, good.
2 reports on African FLs in the last day or so. Nice to se some new info on the board. I like black ladies and spent some wonderfull times with some lovely ones in Havana recently. But I can't say I've ever seen one in Pattaya that floats my boat. I've mostly run into them at the open air bar on WS (where the LBs hang out and which many African ladies now frequent) and in Insomnia / Ibar. Maybe I've just been to the wrong spots. I'll kesp an eye out next time I'm in town.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2144050]2 reports on African FLs in the last day or so. Nice to se some new info on the board. I like black ladies and spent some wonderfull times with some lovely ones in Havana recently. But I can't say I've ever seen one in Pattaya that floats my boat. I've mostly run into them at the open air bar on WS (where the LBs hang out and which many African ladies now frequent) and in Insomnia / Ibar. Maybe I've just been to the wrong spots. I'll kesp an eye out next time I'm in town.[/QUOTE]You don't look for them. You run into them. The best ones that I have seen are usually out walking down a random soi. Just stop and talk to them. The best I have seen: 1. A couple of years ago sitting at one of my usual haunts, Starbucks at Tukcom, chick walks by on the opposite side of the road and I wave her over. She was from Madagascar. 2. A couple of weeks ago I was driving down Soi Honey Inn to pick up Brother Haven and I passed 2 chicks. I turned around and asked them where they were going. They said they were looking for work. Again, the one that I was attracted to appeared to be from Madagascar. I assume they both were since we were speaking in French.
Speak of the devil. To add to my previous post:
3. A few minutes ago I was out in front at The Avenue looking for incense and on the way back to my bike. I passed a nice African chick that was with a gay African dude. We locked eyes as we passed and we both turned around. I asked her where she was going. She said looking for work. I asked how much she wanted (then thought to myself, why am I talking so loud out here in public). She said 1000 for short time. I told her I lived here and was not paying more than 800. She asked where my hotel was and repeated 1000. We walked away from each other because I was in a hurry and I don't think she wanted to come for 800.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2144116]Speak of the devil. To add to my previous post:
3. A few minutes ago I was out in front at The Avenue looking for incense and on the way back to my bike. I passed a nice African chick that was with a gay African dude. We locked eyes as we passed and we both turned around. I asked her where she was going. She said looking for work. I asked how much she wanted (then thought to myself, why am I talking so loud out here in public). She said 1000 for short time. I told her I lived here and was not paying more than 800. She asked where my hotel was and repeated 1000. We walked away from each other because I was in a hurry and I don't think she wanted to come for 800.[/QUOTE]1000 for a walker of the street is way too much fella. I get them all the time for 500 + 100 tips. Please don't ruin the market.
Hey fellas,
New to the site, but I'd like to thank everyone for the great info I've come across so far!
Planning my 1st trip to Pattaya and wondering what your opinions are about Areca Lodge Vs. Siam at Siam Hotel?
Areca seems like a safe choice because of the location, but Siam at Siam is nice as hell and so damn close to Soi 6 LOL.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
J. Smooth.
[QUOTE=JaySmooth;2144895]Hey fellas, New to the site, but I'd like to thank everyone for the great info I've come across so far!
Planning my 1st trip to Pattaya and wondering what your opinions are about Areca Lodge Vs. Siam at Siam Hotel?[/QUOTE]Well, welcome to the forum, but please use the search function first and post your question in the right thread [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels[/URL].
[QUOTE=AliciaKeys;2144754]1000 for a walker of the street is way too much fella. I get them all the time for 500 + 100 tips. Please don't ruin the market.[/QUOTE]I pay the street walkers based on what they agree to do. I will pay 1000 baht if they agree to do CIM and will pay 1200 if they swallow. It's very hard to find a girl to do CIM in Pattaya let alone swallow.
[QUOTE=JaySmooth;2144895]Hey fellas,
New to the site, but I'd like to thank everyone for the great info I've come across so far!
Planning my 1st trip to Pattaya and wondering what your opinions are about Areca Lodge Vs. Siam at Siam Hotel?
Areca seems like a safe choice because of the location, but Siam at Siam is nice as hell and so damn close to Soi 6 LOL.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
J. Smooth.[/QUOTE]Hi J.
I have just returned from my first trip to Pattaya, Thailand actually, and we stayed at the Penthouse Hotel. This hotel is not everyone's cup of tea but you can't beat the location. We didn't feel unsafe in Pattaya at all so personally I wouldn't let feeling unsafe play a major role in your decision to what hotel you choose to stay at. There was 2 of us and I don't know if you will going solo or not. I went thru Soi 6 once and I wasn't that impressed with what I saw and had more fun around Soi 8. The Walking Street Ago gos where we had most fun and we will stay at the Penthouse again because of the proximity to walking street and the 10 baht buses are good to get around. Feel free to contact me by PM if you want more information.
Rob.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145035]I pay the street walkers based on what they agree to do. I will pay 1000 baht if they agree to do CIM and will pay 1200 if they swallow. It's very hard to find a girl to do CIM in Pattaya let alone swallow.[/QUOTE]To UShobbylist.
So you will paid 200 bht more if the girl Swallow so what do you get out of it if she swallow or not I like to know.
Fast Eddie 48.
[QUOTE=AliciaKeys;2144754]1000 for a walker of the street is way too much fella. I get them all the time for 500 + 100 tips. Please don't ruin the market.[/QUOTE]I think you're the first one who's accusing Mr. E of paying too much, LOL.
Maybe you're the one who's ruining the market by giving them a 20% tip.
My "Kenyan" girl has turned out to be anything but Kenyan. I believed her when she declared being a Tutsi. Leggy and elongate upwards is just how Tutsis are (and how I like my girls to be). She holds a passport from another country than her native country.
We agreed to go to the Pattaya waterpark on Monday. Since she gets quite drunk most nights to sleep it off until late afternoon I booked her LT for 4000 bahts Sunday night. Let's see how that works out. She's such a chicken head. Yesterday, probably the worst for drink, she tore the corner of the 1st page in her passport. Being a black woman and on the game she must carry the original of her passport at all times. She could be in for some trouble when she has to cross borders again.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145035]It's very hard to find a girl to do CIM in Pattaya [/QUOTE]Huh? Very Hard? I never had a problem to find CIM in soi6 or thaifriendly freelancers, many girls provide this service. Also in Pattaya many G. Clubs, massage shops (soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon) and BJ Bars where the girls provide CIM.
Can anybody recommend freelance bars, it my first time here and would appreciate all the help I can get.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2145257]Huh? Very Hard? I never had a problem to find CIM in soi6 or thaifriendly freelancers, many girls provide this service. Also in Pattaya many G. Clubs, massage shops (soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon) and BJ Bars where the girls provide CIM.[/QUOTE]I gave up expecting to get a CIM from a (good looking) Soi 6 Pattaya girl, too. One night a couple of years ago I spent too much time approaching, buying LDs for and chatting up the half dozen or so good looking girls I could find on the whole soi from as many different bars and not one of them agreed to do it for me. In fact, I got lectured from some of them about how I would never find a Thai girl who would give a CIM finish to a BJ because it was such a sick and unreasonable request. LOL. Same with a few girls in the beer bars on Walking Street. However, I have not gone to a Pattaya BJ Bar in at least 20 years so have no experience with the current scene there.
I rarely have a problem getting a CIM in Bangkok from good looking go-go dancers, beer bar girls, freelancers and of course BJ bar girls. But my quest to get one from a decent looking Pattaya girl has been pretty much a bust in the last 7-8 trips I have taken there in the past 5 years. I assume there are plenty of girls on Soi 6 who do it all the time. But I am only talking about the very, very few good looking ones I saw and bothered to approach.
[QUOTE=IrishA;2145265]Can anybody recommend freelance bars, it my first time here and would appreciate all the help I can get.[/QUOTE]The Pattaya Beer Garden is a good place to grab a drink. Nice atmosphere over the water and close to Walking Street. There is usually a decent selection of freelancers at the bar: mostly average looks, but some hidden gems can be found:
[URL]http://pattayasanook.com/pattaya-beer-garden/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tCPIV6f7z4[/URL]
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2145382]The Pattaya Beer Garden is a good place to grab a drink. Nice atmosphere over the water and close to Walking Street. There is usually a decent selection of freelancers at the bar: mostly average looks, but some hidden gems can be found:
[URL]http://pattayasanook.com/pattaya-beer-garden/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tCPIV6f7z4[/URL]
SL.[/QUOTE]I hear that the food is not very good these days, quality is way down and it's left some with food poisoning.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2145569]I hear that the food is not very good these days, quality is way down and it's left some with food poisoning.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the mosquitos!
[QUOTE=Downandup;2145569]I hear that the food is not very good these days, quality is way down and it's left some with food poisoning.[/QUOTE]It's quiet and not too loud. And the view is nice.
But food is just OK. Nothing special. And kind of expensive for what you get. Not sure FLs are available there anymore. Dom't remember seeing any my last time in there a couple months ago. If they are they are too old and round for my taste for me to remember them.
A good spot to grab some food with your WS BF because of the ambiance. But that's about it. If you really want to wow her with good and cheap seafood there is a little hole in the wall restaurant called Nana on Soi 15 (same Soi as Wattsap and Saphire). The Mint clams there are amazing.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141230]At Nashaa, there is no cover charge. However, just as you are seated, the waiter will put a drinks menu in front of you and you are expected to order atleast a beer or a cola. But once you do that, they leave you alone and you can enjoy for quite some time without being bothered again.[/QUOTE]Looks like Walking Street is finally gearing venues towards Indian brothers the way AC has started gearing itself towards Korean brothers. I hope this does not anger another demographic the way it has in Angeles. There are now more brand new Indian discos than one can shake a stick at. I started off at Nashaa. It was a nice place, but when I saw the price of drinks I decided to head out. 180 baht for water. On the way out I saw a chick that I had fucked before. I knew her, but I couldn't place her. She remembered me as well.
I went next door to Mauja. This place was nice too. I stood for a minute checking the place out then a chick at the table closest to where I was invited me to sit down. Her and her friend had 2 bottles of Blend 285 at the table. The people working in the club kept coming over and she would give them shots. I guess this chick must be a somebody. I ordered a soda water. The waiter was a very nice Indian guy. He asked if I wanted lime with it. I said yes. He said well I will make you a special drink for the same price. 130 baht. I don't know what it was, but it was great!
The goings on in the club were a sight to see. A white chick with some kind of belly dancing uniform went to the dance floor to do a routine. The security guys that were guarding the dance floor had fake paper money. A couple of guys went up to the stage and I don't know if they had to purchase the fake money or not, but they would dance close to the girl and throw the fake money on her. Whenever one tried to get close and touch her she would run away from them. There were some Thai chicks in shorts and bikini tops that went up as well and they had no problem with the guys touching them.
I finished my drink and before I left I traded information with the chick that I was sitting with. We are supposed to be getting together tonight. From what I could see, the myth that chicks do not like the Indian guys has pretty much been dispelled. There were plenty of Thai and Eastern European chicks to go around in each place. Also it looked like the beer tower was a popular thing in each disco. No idea why they stamp your hand to go in to each place since they are free to get in.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2144116]Speak of the devil. To add to my previous post:
3. A few minutes ago I was out in front at The Avenue looking for incense and on the way back to my bike. I passed a nice African chick that was with a gay African dude.[/QUOTE]I saw the same chick again last night on LK Metro. She said her name is Vanessa and she is from Madagascar. I would have taken her, but I looked at her hands and feet and her nails were not done. I don't have many turnoffs, but that is one of them. I have to have a chick that is groomed.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145035]I pay the street walkers based on what they agree to do. I will pay 1000 baht if they agree to do CIM and will pay 1200 if they swallow. It's very hard to find a girl to do CIM in Pattaya let alone swallow.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are looking too hard. I usually deal with freelancers and I am a go with the flow kind of guy. When I am fucking a chick I might ask her where she wants me to finish. Example: They say finish on my stomach. I say but I want to finish in your mouth. Can I finish in your mouth? And they are like up to you.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2145569]I hear that the food is not very good these days, quality is way down and it's left some with food poisoning.[/QUOTE]Funny you should say that. My brother went down after eating there the other week and he was out of action for the last 4 days of our stay. Strangely enough we ate there 2 times and usually had our meals with some share options like the chicken wings and I was ok.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2145073]To UShobbylist.
So you will paid 200 bht more if the girl Swallow so what do you get out of it if she swallow or not I like to know.
Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Yes. It's very exiting during BBBJ if the girl tells you that she will swallow BEFORE sex. I got kicks out of swallowing when I did P4 P in Montreal more than a decade ago.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2145257]Huh? Very Hard? I never had a problem to find CIM in soi6 or thaifriendly freelancers, many girls provide this service. Also in Pattaya many G. Clubs, massage shops (soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon) and BJ Bars where the girls provide CIM.[/QUOTE]Thank you for info. Before I read your post, I only know that I can get CIM in those BJ bars of Soi6. Can you give me the names of other joints where I can get CIM? Do the girls of Soi Honey and Soi Chaiyapoon charge extra for CIM?
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145760]Thank you for info. Before I read your post, I only know that I can get CIM in those BJ bars of Soi6. Can you give me the names of other joints where I can get CIM? Do the girls of Soi Honey and Soi Chaiyapoon charge extra for CIM?[/QUOTE]There are about 6 Gentlemen's clubs on Bong Koch 8 where you can get BBBJCIM, Pirates, 007 Carre Blanc, j Club & Club 4 GPS: 12.928302, 100.892318.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145760]Thank you for info. Before I read your post, I only know that I can get CIM in those BJ bars of Soi6. Can you give me the names of other joints where I can get CIM? Do the girls of Soi Honey and Soi Chaiyapoon charge extra for CIM?[/QUOTE]You can get this in any jack shack that you can fuck in. There has to literally be at least 100 places. Like I said, just say I finish in your mouth. Don't bring that a la carte paying extra for shit over here please. Unlike Tijuana and Colombia this is an all inclusive monger destination and most of us would like it to stay that way.
Only had one gogo girl say don't CIM. Like Mr E I don't ask how I will finish I just finish how I want. More say no COF only because they don't want to redo their makeup.
No one in pattaya charges extra for cim, bbbj, or anal.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2145808]Only had one gogo girl say don't CIM. Like Mr E I don't ask how I will finish I just finish how I want. [/QUOTE]Hmm. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it seems to me Mr. E said he does sometimes ask, even asking twice during the same pre-orgasm conversation.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2145599]When I am fucking a chick I might ask her where she wants me to finish. Example: They say finish on my stomach. I say but I want to finish in your mouth. Can I finish in your mouth?[/QUOTE]I never was much of a pre-orgasm conversationalist about these things. However, considering my abysmal results in actually getting a real CIM finish with a decent looking girl in Pattaya, perhaps it would be improved if I had that pre-orgasm conversation about it, too. However, my CIM finishes are usually what I want at the end of a blowjob, not at the end of a fuck. And it is at the end of a blowjob where that CIM is so elusive for me in Pattaya (with a good looking girl, that is) even though that is the act where it ought to require the very least amount of conversation about it. But that is definitely not the case for me in Pattaya.
At the end of a fuck, I am usually all about finishing inside their pussy (not inside a condom), without asking at that point. lol. And that has been another major hurdle for me in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145760]Thank you for info. Before I read your post, I only know that I can get CIM in those BJ bars of Soi6. Can you give me the names of other joints where I can get CIM?[/QUOTE]
Lo.Li.Tas, Soi Chaiyapoon.
Bliss Lounge, third road.
Exicite Club, soi Xzyte.
Club4, 007, Pirates, Club Sin, J Club, LE Carre Blanc soi Bong Koch 8 (or known as soi Full Love Inn).
Le Poste office soi Lengkee.
Le Telephone, soi 2 Pattaya Tai (soi Batman?)
Geisha Bar, soi LK Pavilion
...and more.
In soi6 you can get CIM everywhere, not only in BJ Bars.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2145760] Do the girls of Soi Honey and Soi Chaiyapoon charge extra for CIM?[/QUOTE]I never pay extra for CIM and girls never asked me for this. Few girls tried to ask extra for anal.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2145823]Hmm. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it seems to me Mr. E said he does sometimes ask, even asking twice during the same pre-orgasm conversation..[/QUOTE]I know that you have a very precise definition of CIM so it might be difficult to get exactly what you want on the first meeting but I don't understand why so many guys are asking to get a CIM. I've never asked for it, I just do it when I cannot hold it anymore. Some girls will run in the bathroom but most of them will take it without any problem even though they might say they never done it before blablabla. It's only with the very inexperienced ones that I would eventually discuss it with them. It's maybe time to change your strategy in Pattaya, don't ask them anything specific, just try your luck and you might get better results.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2145808]
No one in pattaya charges extra for .... or anal.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this is not true for anal in the last year or two I found many girls on Thaifriendly try to ask extra for anal, in Kinnaree almost all girls ask extra for anal, in soi Chaiypoon also. In Club4, 007, Pirates girls tried to ask a big tip for anal. Only in soi6 girls didn't ask me for tip. I'm anal-lover and I ask for ass to all the girls I pick up.
She works during the day around 3 pm and up. Has silicone tits and round ass. Here is a hint: Once I'm the room, tell the girl to skip the soapy massage part that takes place on the mat. Just take bath with them in the tub to get clean. Min does lots of BBBJ, DT, gagging, ass licking, and allows CIM. She's quite a performer.
Monkey 2 paws up!
Just curious, but when you guys are talking about Indian clubs on WS, are you saying they are Indian friendly? Or there are Indian women working there available for barfine or are freelancer? I'm interested in the latter after watching a few episodes of Quantico on my plane ride.
This should help:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1TBW8OkCo4Acz1ug7ssSBBNTxJ5U&ll=12.91826291319148%2C100.88850189999994&z=14[/URL]
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2145891]Lo.Li.Tas, Soi Chaiyapoon.
Bliss Lounge, third road.
Exicite Club, soi Xzyte.
Club4, 007, Pirates, Club Sin, J Club, LE Carre Blanc soi Bong Koch 8 (or known as soi Full Love Inn).
Le Poste office soi Lengkee.
Le Telephone, soi 2 Pattaya Tai (soi Batman?)
Geisha Bar, soi LK Pavilion
...and more.
In soi6 you can get CIM everywhere, not only in BJ Bars.
I never pay extra for CIM and girls never asked me for this. Few girls tried to ask extra for anal.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2145930]Here is a hint: Once I'm the room, tell the girl to skip the soapy massage part that takes place on the mat. Just take bath with them in the tub to get clean.[/QUOTE]But that is the whole draw of the place! It bills itself as body to body massage. That is like going to Beefeaters Steak House and ordering a vegetable plate. You can fuck anywhere; but you can't get the soapy part anywhere.
[QUOTE=Hack351;2146040]Just curious, but when you guys are talking about Indian clubs on WS, are you saying they are Indian friendly? Or there are Indian women working there available for barfine or are freelancer? I'm interested in the latter after watching a few episodes of Quantico on my plane ride.[/QUOTE]There are discos designed to be a draw to Indian male clientele. There is no barfining nor female Indian hookers. There are Thai and Eastern European hookers.
[QUOTE=Hack351;2146040]Just curious, but when you guys are talking about Indian clubs on WS, are you saying they are Indian friendly? Or there are Indian women working there available for barfine or are freelancer? I'm interested in the latter after watching a few episodes of Quantico on my plane ride.[/QUOTE]Very funny, we all want that chick from Quantico. You need to be a proper billionaire to have any chance of dating that honey.
I live here. I'm sorry but it's not a myth. Thai girls do not like Indians. You met some that will go with you for the money, so that' s good for you- but make no mistake. They do not like you and they are very racist.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2145589]Looks like Walking Street is finally gearing venues towards Indian brothers the way AC has started gearing itself towards Korean brothers. I hope this does not anger another demographic the way it has in Angeles. There are now more brand new Indian discos than one can shake a stick at. I started off at Nashaa. It was a nice place, but when I saw the price of drinks I decided to head out. 180 baht for water. On the way out I saw a chick that I had fucked before. I knew her, but I couldn't place her. She remembered me as well.
I went next door to Mauja. This place was nice too. I stood for a minute checking the place out then a chick at the table closest to where I was invited me to sit down. Her and her friend had 2 bottles of Blend 285 at the table. The people working in the club kept coming over and she would give them shots. I guess this chick must be a somebody. I ordered a soda water. The waiter was a very nice Indian guy. He asked if I wanted lime with it. I said yes. He said well I will make you a special drink for the same price. 130 baht. I don't know what it was, but it was great!.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2146200]But that is the whole draw of the place! It bills itself as body to body massage. That is like going to Beefeaters Steak House and ordering a vegetable plate. You can fuck anywhere; but you can't get the soapy part anywhere.[/QUOTE]Well said Mr E. I can't imagine stepping into a soapie and skipping the slip'and'slide part. That's the main attraction there. You might as well go to a massage place in soi 24.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2146200]But that is the whole draw of the place! It bills itself as body to body massage. That is like going to Beefeaters Steak House and ordering a vegetable plate. You can fuck anywhere; but you can't get the soapy part anywhere.[/QUOTE]Incorrect. Newbies or those inexperienced are lured and drawn to the "soapy" massage and body to body on the floor mat experience. But guys like me know that soapies have their advantages over other establishments. If you know how to play your cards right. It's just a higher end brothel for business men. Most will agree that the the soapy girls make up, dress themselves, and look better than girls found at other venues. And we aren't talking about the exceptions, but "generally" speaking. Girls are not allowed to reject any customer or they have to pay a fine. Now pricing may be varied by customers but NO rejection is allowed. The rooms are nicer than most short time rooms. The jacuzzi bath beats the shower before short time experience. At soapies use your FSA or MSA account cards. It will show up as "personal or health related care. " That's tax free savings. If you are a business traveler, deduct the whole experience by using your credit card. If you know how to manipulate your taxes, soapies become free and you can even get Uncle Sam to pay for them with healthcare credits. Also feel free to charge 3500 for a 2400 baht massage at a soapy in Pattaya. Tell them that you want over the amount to tip the manager 100 baht and perhaps tip extra for the girl if she is awesome. They will charge 3% which is cheaper or the same as ATM fees and exchange rates, except they just allowed you to cash out your credit card. Which then you will deduct off your taxes. As for the girls, use the managers to get exactly what you want. They will know which girl does what. Which has babies and such. This is why I tip the managers.
Good advice is to settle on 3 or 4 and have the manager call them all over for a closer look. That way when they walk to you, you can see their bodies from the front. And when they walk back, you can see their asses. This is better than picking a girl and taking your chances. Also it's stupid to have girls stand up one by one. Skip the soapy massage massage of the floor. The girls get annoyed by that because it's not good for their skin 6-8 times a day. They will know that you are here to fuck and will that you are not a newbie. They also heard from the cashier and manager that you pulled out an extra 1000 "perhaps" for a tip. Then they will.
Ahhh. Shit I'm telling you guys too many of my secrets to successful mongering. But I think you can figure out the whole cash out your credit cards and tax thing. I once made out with a free 5000 baht of a company credit card there when I used to work. I supposedly had back issues, therapy can be expensive. Ended up using the 5,000 for a girl at Baccara.
FWIW, either some people have a stronger constitution or they didn't eat the one bad piece. I have gotten sick at deluxe resorts off room service. Things just spoil faster in the warm weather.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2145747]Strangely enough we ate there 2 times and usually had our meals with some share options like the chicken wings and I was ok.[/QUOTE]I agree. Some girls will give a preference. Otherwise, as advised by other girls, just do what you want and the girl will tell you when you are about to cross a line. However, stealthing and such are not good ideas.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2145599]Example: They say finish on my stomach. I say but I want to finish in your mouth. Can I finish in your mouth? And they are like up to you.[/QUOTE]Good to hear. Will have to take a look next time. Looks like free advertising to me. Should have tied a string around your wrist too.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2145589]Looks like Walking Street is finally gearing venues towards Indian brothers the way AC has started gearing itself towards Korean brothers. No idea why they stamp your hand to go in to each place since they are free to get in.[/QUOTE]Yep, many are banned from the bars / discos. She needs to watch out, assuming it is a real passport. I have seen tall white Eastern European girls get breaks at customs and immigration so she might get a break too. I don't know why I follow those types to the immigration lines.
[QUOTE=XXL;2145232]My "Kenyan" girl has turned out to be anything but Kenyan. I believed her when she declared being a Tutsi.
Yesterday, probably the worst for drink, she tore the corner of the 1st page in her passport. Being a black woman and on the game she must carry the original of her passport at all times. She could be in for some trouble when she has to cross borders again.[/QUOTE]Think Rocky holds the standard now.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2145173]I think you're the first one who's accusing Mr. E of paying too much, LOL.
Maybe you're the one who's ruining the market by giving them a 20% tip.[/QUOTE]
So I've spent over 3 weeks in Pattaya and before I sneak back to Vietnam wanted to write one last review. Honestly, I got tired from writing reviews and then looking at the quality of most of the "reports" or "reviews" on here. Make note. If there are no identifiers for others to make out who the girl is like name, work place, looks, dance number, contact info or photos. Then the girl you report on might as well be a ghost and doesn't really help me worth shit. How are other members supposed to find the girls reported on to fuck them?
So Palace IMHO has taken over for the #1 Go Go Bar on Walking Street. Quality of girls from 11 pm and on is the best. Music is awesome with a mix of EDM, hip hop, rock, and western music hits. Lighting is bright enough to see the girls. None of that annoying Thai disco music is played. Barfine at 1000ST, 1500 LT and models are 2000. Be careful girls are on 10 days contracts for drinks and salary, so they will play certain customers with no intention of being barfined. But if your are stupid, you deserved to get hustled. Also, if you aren't there to barfine a girl or buy many drinks, don't expect to stay in your seat for too long. That's how they work. My last night in Pattaya, I went in around 11 and the place was packed. A older Western white guy was sitting with 2 girls, the security told the girls to stand up and I took the seat. The guy looked annoyed because he had bought them drinks. They stood up and and then took their shots and then walked away. Technically, he didn't realize I saved his ass from those girls who had no interest in him. So hopefully he forgave me. Hahaha. I saw a new girl and inquired about her with a waitress. She told me that she worked there before briefly awhile back, but comes and goes as she pleases. I told her to call her down for a drink. The girl, a model, looked at me and nodded "okay. " She sexy, slim, with nice tits. She was topless and had very white skin. Within minutes she brought over a tequila shot. For a first drink, tequila shots are NOT a good sign. It usually mean they will do a quick chat and run off. Anyways, after her set was finished, the girl came down and we did some small talk. Her Thai name was Wanissa, not sure of her dance name. This was her "interview" of me. She was impressed by my English and how it sounds. After her tequila shot, she asked me for another drink but that she had another customer before I came that she was sitting with. I said back to her, did she want to go back to him? She said "not really, he was from China and she couldn't understand him. " And she rather sit with me. I told her directly that I was here at Palace to fuck her and that if she wanted me take her, I don't mind her sitting and drinking. If she is here to play and hustle for drinks and go back and forth between customers, she can go back dancing or sit somewhere else. She smiled and said, "You want take me, okay, long or short?" Got her.
Her second drink was a in a rocks glass, so now she was willing to sit and chat. Pay attention to the drink they get, it will let you know their intentions sometimes. Anyways, she went back to Chinese guy and hustled a couple of shots in 5 minutes before returning back to me. Should of saw the look on he and his friends faces when she told him "bye" and came back to me. Just in case, I pulled the short and fat mamasan over and paid the 2000 barfine. When she came back, we sat a drank a bit even after I barfined her. Total was about 5 drinks for her and my bill was about 1500 for drinks. To me she was a stunner and a model type, so I had low expectations. She looked as if she knew how to play guys for a living. But of course, I am Monkeypaw, and I know how to play girls as well. So the game began between us. It's just a game of conversation about who I am, and what she can get from me beyond my looks and 3000 baht for short time. So we talked, and we scrolled through my photos on my phone. This is part of my game. I think I won. Back in the room, this is what I got sex, BBBJ, 69, DFK, TUMA, and CIM. We spent at least 30 minutes with her doing some intense ball and ass licking, sucking, and in 69. She likes tongue deep inside of her as opposed to her clit. She is multiple cummer and very loud once she she gets into it. After sex in multiple positions, I asked her to finish me with another BJ but let me CIM. She obliged. Total damage was 3000 plus 200 tip. Wanissa is the second on the right with black hair tied in a pony tail. She's gets a Monkeypaw 2 paws up!
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2146255]Which then you will deduct off your taxes. [/QUOTE]Tax? You pay taxes? I try to avoid doing this, rather a waste of money.
[QUOTE=Hack351;2146040]Just curious, but when you guys are talking about Indian clubs on WS, are you saying they are Indian friendly? Or there are Indian women working there available for barfine or are freelancer? I'm interested in the latter after watching a few episodes of Quantico on my plane ride.[/QUOTE]There are atleast a couple of dance bars on WS where Indian WGs are available. Indian promo guys have tried to steer me inside on a few occasions. Although, I haven't sampled these joints myself, from what I have heard from those who have, don't expect any stunners here. Also, on BR, close to the entrance of WS, there are a couple of Indian food joints that provide dance entertainment by Indian girls, but not sure whether they are also available for outcall etc.
[QUOTE=RockettMan;2146230]I live here. I'm sorry but it's not a myth. Thai girls do not like Indians. You met some that will go with you for the money, so that' s good for you- but make no mistake. They do not like you and they are very racist.[/QUOTE]Huh? I am Black American and I have been living here 8 years. Thai women go with all foreigners for money. Maybe they like none of us. And of all the places they could be going to get customers, they were in the Indian discos. So while maybe not all Thai women like Indian guys (hell, who in every race likes people from every other race), there were plenty to go around in the Indian discos that I went into.
How's the talent on soi 6 and LK metro been these last few weeks?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2145898]I know that you have a very precise definition of CIM so it might be difficult to get exactly what you want on the first meeting but I don't understand why so many guys are asking to get a CIM. I've never asked for it, I just do it when I cannot hold it anymore. Some girls will run in the bathroom but most of them will take it without any problem even though they might say they never done it before blablabla. It's only with the very inexperienced ones that I would eventually discuss it with them. It's maybe time to change your strategy in Pattaya, don't ask them anything specific, just try your luck and you might get better results.[/QUOTE]I've done the "try your luck" and "go with the flow" bit plenty of times. I get too many cum-dodgers that way. Not worth my time, money or ejaculate.
I don't see what is wrong about being very precise about defining a CIM to mean Cum In Mouth/finishing orally, in the mouth and not finishing outside of the mouth, not by hand, not out in the open air, not pointing toward an open window and so on. Seems the vast majority of girls working in BJ Bars understand what a CIM finish means. How is it that this same meaning eludes other Thai girls or, worse, is allowed by low demand customers to elude other Thai girls?
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2141214]It's not a problem so long as you adhere to the dress code. Unlike many gogo bars, Indian nightclubs don't have a racist door policy. Explore for yourself and you will come out having a different view about Indian guys after seeing wads of THBs being showered on the belly dancers and dance girls on the stage in a matter of seconds. It's unlike anything you would have witnessed in any gogo bar and I speak from experience having been to the best of gogo bars and also Indian nightclubs. One night after being in Nashaa for a while, we went to Mixx and the atmosphere sucked big time. It was 'buy one drink and get another drink of the same kind free' night and we ordered a couple of Red Bulls. However, the club was so dead that we didn't even finish our first drink and left after 15 minutes or so. The waiter was also a little surprised when he saw us leaving so soon with unopened bottles of Red Bulls still at our table. So, the fact that many gogo bars/clubs have this racist door policy is totally not justified. I mean, I have seen Indian guys blowing thousands of THBs on dancing girls without batting an eyelid. So, just imagine what it would do for the business of any gogo bar if such big spenders were allowed in and treated with respect. Also, when it comes to LT for CIS in Pattaya, the least I have been quoted is 5 K, which is more in comparison to Thai girls in gogo bars. So, the fact that the Uzbek contingent is present in full force in Pattaya to cater to their main clientele I. E. Indians is a clear testimony to the fact that the select Indian crowd is capable of putting anyone to shame when it comes to spending big. This is just my opinion and I don't want to stir the pot and start another discussion on Indian dudes in LOS etc. Feel free to disagree. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Mr Mous, your comments make a lot of sense. The Thais are not renowned for their intellectual horsepower nor business acumen. In fact, they are on par with the Cambodians for being dumb, who at least have an excuse in that their brainiest were wiped out by Pol Pot.
So a few, poorly educated, labouring class guys on their first trip outside of India visit Pattaya and behave badly. The Thais react by putting a blanket ban on all Indians from certain gogos, to protect the honour and dignity of a bunch of illiterate hookers from the rice paddies of Isaan. Who's the loser? The Thai idiots of course.
This reminds of the time during the 60's and 70's when rich Jews (think millionaire bankers and property developers) were banned from joining WASP golf clubs in the North East of USA. Now did the Jews care? They went and built their own friggin' golf clubs for the benefit of other rich Jews. These golf clubs were the biggest and best and shat all over the WASP clubs. If you want verification, check out the courses in Westchester County NY.
I can see where this is headed in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=RockettMan;2146230]I live here. I'm sorry but it's not a myth. Thai girls do not like Indians. You met some that will go with you for the money, so that' s good for you- but make no mistake. They do not like you and they are very racist.[/QUOTE]Mate, why do you care whether a bunch of illiterate prostitutes from the farming villages like you or not? Their job is to suck your dick for money, not like you. It's not as if you're going to hit them with a marriage proposal. You should stop being so sensitive and treat them like the hookers they are. You should only worry if your mom, sister or wife don't like you anymore.
FWIW, those same Thai hookers don't like Western men either. They are only acting and it's their job to look happy while they are swallowing your cum. All men are just walking ATMs, so get over it.
Seems an acceptable LT rate for these girls is 2000 bahts.
The visa stories these girls have to tell are interesting. Many get 6-month visas (compare this to the white man's privilege visa of 1 month's tourist permission to stay).
Got out last night and shot some pool on Soi 7. The girl that I was playing with was on her period so she did not want to come. I asked her how much the bar fine was anyway and she said 300 plus 1200 short time or 1500 long time. I told her I would come get her next week. Of course I will talk her down to 1200 long time when the time comes.
After 6 games of pool, I went down to Soi 6 and had a drink at one of my usual places. Then I walked up the street. When I walked past Scooter's I saw a chick that I had met in an agogo that I reported on in June. She was masquerading as a regular chick then so we started hanging out. One day my brother was in town and she called me to meet her and her friend at iBar. That night she asked me for 3000 baht and I laughed at her and never spoke to her again. Now she says that she has been working at Scooter's for 20 days because she is broke. She said she lost her phone and gave me her new Line. I continued up the street.
I saw a chick that I liked and when I walked back down she was still out. She said where you going. I said looking for you. I went inside and bought a drink. I asked her if she wanted anything and she said no. Turns out she is the cashier. I asked her what time she finished and she said 1. I said okay what time should I come back and get you? She said she should be finished locking up at 1:20. Got to my house and who knows when the last time this chick had sex. Her pussy was so tight on my finger that I didn't think my dick would fit in. We made good love and I dropped her back off at 1pm today and gave her 1000 baht.
[QUOTE=XXL;2146732]Seems an acceptable LT rate for these girls is 2000 bahts.
The visa stories these girls have to tell are interesting. Many get 6-month visas (compare this to the white man's privilege visa of 1 month's tourist permission to stay).[/QUOTE]A quick google search will show you that that is a lie.
[URL]http://uganda.siam-legal.com[/URL]
[URL]http://kenya.siam-legal.com[/URL]
[URL]https://thailand.visahq.de/en/requirements/madagascar/resident-germany/[/URL]
[URL]http://nigeria.siam-legal.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2146745]A quick google search will show you that that is a lie.
[URL]http://uganda.siam-legal.com[/URL]
[URL]http://kenya.siam-legal.com[/URL]
[URL]https://thailand.visahq.de/en/requirements/madagascar/resident-germany/[/URL]
[URL]http://nigeria.siam-legal.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Would a double entry with extensions not get them to 6 months? It's worked for me that way.
Just want to put down the fact that all bars and gogo clubs are closed from yesterday midnight due to the Buddha holiday. My first day in Pattaya is so silent till now, walking street is like a peaceful temple! I was going through the last year Maha Puja day report to know whether the bars actually closes down and was not able to find a report. So next year, if you are around this time plan for non alcoholic and non gogo fun activities.
The black girl I had in mind for this outing waisted my time again so I sent her packing for good and fell back on my regular Ugandan. I can recommend going as a couple to this waterpark. It's a nice and healthy change from eating, drinking, dodging traffic and breathing in stewage stench.
This Ugandan girl is a bit of a problem for me however because she wants sex or what she calls "touching" for 2 or 3 hours a day while I only want 20 minutes' straight fucking every other day. She "tought" me to pleasure her the way she does it on her own ie by pulling on her labia and rubbing them between thumb and finger. What a lame thing to do to a woman's body. Nymphomaniacs are above everything else maniacs. All the same she's fun to be with and I've booked her for my upcoming 4-day trip to kho samet. She'll be flying home on the 19th of March and who knows if I'll see her ever again.
When we were waiting for the Grab car to the waterpark this morning a person of African / Indian looks emerged from the elevator of View Talay 6. Owing to her exuberant body I thought she could be a ladyboy but my Ugandan told me she was female and Ethiopian. I ran up to the Ethiopian exhibiting my smartphone to make it clear I was after her online ID. She turned me down, noticeably drunk or coming down from something. Plenty of fish in the sea of course but that one looked like an interesting rarity.
Walked past soi 6 several times last month and to my disappointment quality was so low even compared to BR ladies. I only came across a very few fuckable girls from dozens around even though they show off their assets more than the BR or normal bar girls.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2146599]How's the talent on soi 6 and LK metro been these last few weeks?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2147355]Walked past soi 6 several times last month and to my disappointment quality was so low even compared to BR ladies. I only came across a very few fuckable girls from dozens around even though they show off their assets more than the BR or normal bar girls.[/QUOTE]Same here. I was there in first week of February and the talent was low end. Better quality at the complex corner of Soi 8 and BR. I was very disappointed. Lucky I had my Thai Friendly contacts for daytime sessions.
Rob.
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Hello fellow Pattaya lovers.
I was planning to visit Pattaya during March but work leads to change of plans. So now I'll have a chance for a 2 week vacation during May. I was wondering what is the scene during that period? I mean its low season, I read that a lot of girls go home and will come back during the high season. Is this true?
I was in Pattaya in October and had great fun on Soi 6 and the MP around the other Sois. I checked few GoGos but its not my thing. I prefer freelancers or MPs. So my question is if I came May or end of April, will I have much less choice of girls when we speak about Soi 6, other Soi MPs or regular freelancers (on Beach road or dating apps where I found some girls last time)?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2147485]Hello fellow Pattaya lovers.
I was planning to visit Pattaya during March but work leads to change of plans. So now I'll have a chance for a 2 week vacation during May. I was wondering what is the scene during that period? I mean its low season, I read that a lot of girls go home and will come back during the high season. Is this true?
Thanks![/QUOTE]If it's going to be quieter then don't forget that it's still Pattaya. Sure some girls will be heading home as it's low season but you will also find far less competition too. Check out ThaiFriendly to find freelancers.
Went to sapphire yesterday and picked up a cute (name: beer, don't remember the number). She only wanted ST, 1 k BF and 3 k for her. During the usual chit chat, she said that she open to everything other then a+ and as promised gave a good experience back in the room.
In sapphire, there were three kind of uniforms, white top and white shorts, black top and black shorts and a black sexy dress. I know that the last category can be bar fined, what's the deal with the other two?? I tried asking the waitress, the lady I had yesterday, no body was able to guide me. There were quite a few stunner in the first two categories, can we bar fine them?
Thanks to all guys who took interest in relying for the suggestion about Pattaya during Songkran. Changed my plan according to suggestions and will be coming around 23rd March. Any bro there at that time can inbox for a beer together.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=PicDoody387;2147832]Went to sapphire yesterday and picked up a cute (name: beer, don't remember the number). She only wanted ST, 1 k BF and 3 k for her. During the usual chit chat, she said that she open to everything other then a+ and as promised gave a good experience back in the room.
In sapphire, there were three kind of uniforms, white top and white shorts, black top and black shorts and a black sexy dress. I know that the last category can be bar fined, what's the deal with the other two?? I tried asking the waitress, the lady I had yesterday, no body was able to guide me. There were quite a few stunner in the first two categories, can we bar fine them?[/QUOTE]All girls can be barfined at Sapphire. However they may or may not want to go with you. The girls are divided into dancing groups according to height. The all white being the most petite. Stunners always get at least 1 or maybe 2 customers a night, so they can pick and choose who they want to go with. Be careful as they will work you for drinks. My advice is that if you want a stunner is to barfine her early before 9:00 for short time. That will allow her to come back and grab a second customer. I've barfined over 20 girls at Sapphire, so I would know. Next time, ask the mamasan if you have questions.
At 7:30pm my friends and I had finished eating on Made in Thailand and were walking back to our bikes at the Buakhao market when two chicks on a bike pulled up about to make a left. I asked the chick on the back where they were going. She said to the store. I said no. You are coming with me and grabbed her hand. She said are you serious? I said yes. So she got off the bike and gave her friend the money that was in her hand. Come to find out she is 19 with no kids and works in a bar. Before she worked at Family Mart (8,000 baht/month) and sold shoes and bags but it didn't pay enough. Her and her friend were headed to buy whiskey for the bar.
We get to my place and fuck then take a shower together. I am thinking that she will get dressed and head back to the bar, but she gets in bed. Oh fucking well. I get in bed too. It is 1:30am and she is still here. Guess I will give her 1000 baht when she leaves tomorrow. Spur of the moment shit like that is what I like about Pattaya. You don't need to buy any lady drinks or throw any ping pong balls. Just walk down the street and tell a random chick to come with you.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2148076]At 7:30pm my friends and I had finished eating on Made in Thailand and were walking back to our bikes at the Buakhao market when two chicks on a bike pulled up about to make a left. I asked the chick on the back where they were going. She said to the store. I said no. You are coming with me and grabbed her hand. She said are you serious? I said yes. So she got off the bike and gave her friend the money that was in her hand. Come to find out she is 19 with no kids and works in a bar. Before she worked at Family Mart (8,000 baht/month) and sold shoes and bags but it didn't pay enough. Her and her friend were headed to buy whiskey for the bar.
We get to my place and fuck then take a shower together. I am thinking that she will get dressed and head back to the bar, but she gets in bed. Oh fucking well. I get in bed too. It is 1:30am and she is still here. Guess I will give her 1000 baht when she leaves tomorrow. Spur of the moment shit like that is what I like about Pattaya. You don't need to buy any lady drinks or throw any ping pong balls. Just walk down the street and tell a random chick to come with you.[/QUOTE]99% of the Thai girls I don't know can't say the word "serious". Much less even know what it means. Entertaining story though.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2148038]All girls can be barfined at Sapphire. However they may or may not want to go with you. The girls are divided into dancing groups according to height. The all white being the most petite. Stunners always get at least 1 or maybe 2 customers a night, so they can pick and choose who they want to go with. Be careful as they will work you for drinks. My advice is that if you want a stunner is to barfine her early before 9:00 for short time. That will allow her to come back and grab a second customer. I've barfined over 20 girls at Sapphire, so I would know. Next time, ask the mamasan if you have questions.[/QUOTE]Thank you MonkeyPaw for the reply. I went to Sapphire yesterday and bar fined one of the white top girls (#441). Her name is ice and she told me that her age is 33 even though she doesn't look a day older than 25. She was an amazing choice as she came with me to insomnia and then later spend 90 minutes in the room all for a ST price. Even after the 90 minutes, she was ready to take me to a nice thai place if I wanted. Overall a very good experience and I would highly recommend.
One interesting thing is that I usually don't barfine from the same gogo consecutively, this time as wanted to test the bar fine structure in sapphire I went again. The girl I bar fined grabbed me within 10 minutes and was ready to go. It was really hard to choose the other girl. How do people who do this regularly manage this, I can't go back to sapphire today as 3-4 girls will expect lady drinks!
Hi fellow ISG members,
I've been sleeping my way through Asia for the last five years and have had many memorable experiences in Bali and Phuket but the opportunity to try Pattaya has always escaped me until now. I'll be travelling to Pattaya this November for my 40th birthday and I will be with Family staying in a resort about a 15 minute walk to all the action. I've read the forum and have a good idea of what to expect but is Pattaya as raunchy as its made out to be? That's kinda what I want with my trip there, I want to try all that is on offer, BJ bars, freelancers in short time hotels, threesomes and massage girls, the raunchier the better. So do any Pattaya vets have any advice for a Pattaya newbie looking to try it all?
[QUOTE=PicDoody387;2148369]Thank you MonkeyPaw for the reply. I went to Sapphire yesterday and bar fined one of the white top girls (#441). Her name is ice and she told me that her age is 33 even though she doesn't look a day older than 25. She was an amazing choice as she came with me to insomnia and then later spend 90 minutes in the room all for a ST price. Even after the 90 minutes, she was ready to take me to a nice thai place if I wanted. Overall a very good experience and I would highly recommend.
One interesting thing is that I usually don't barfine from the same gogo consecutively, this time as wanted to test the bar fine structure in sapphire I went again. The girl I bar fined grabbed me within 10 minutes and was ready to go. It was really hard to choose the other girl. How do people who do this regularly manage this, I can't go back to sapphire today as 3-4 girls will expect lady drinks![/QUOTE]Sapphire has a Facebook page. Search under Sapphire Pattaya. There you will find girls photos with their numbers. Make a list of those girls you are interested in before you step in the club. Once you get inside, just ask for them by number. It's like catalog shopping before you arrive at the store. Each time I go to Sapphire, I spend about 1500 in drinks. Girls there make 10,000 for every 45 drinks in 10 days. That's the contract with the bar. I don't mind helping them if I've already been with them. Often the friendlier ones will help me connect with one of their friends. And when their friend arrives, they will leave. Once I got stuck with 4 girls sitting with me, but it was fine. The pic below I posted has 4 girls that I previously have had sex with. It's funny that they were chosen to take a group picture for the club. I limit their drinks to 1 or 2 as a courtesy that we've had good sex before. If the experience was not good, they know better than come even try for a drink. Keep in mind, I've barfined over 200 Go Go Bar girls on Walking Street, so it gets very interesting every time I go out and take another girl. The drama and jealousy I see in their eyes at each other is almost worth the price of admission.
P.S: Thanks for sharing the girl's dance number and her club.
[QUOTE=PicDoody387;2148369] The girl I bar fined grabbed me within 10 minutes and was ready to go. It was really hard to choose the other girl. How do people who do this regularly manage this, [/QUOTE]It's your money it's up to you on who you spend it on.
[QUOTE=PicDoody387;2148369] How do people who do this regularly manage this, I can't go back to sapphire today as 3-4 girls will expect lady drinks![/QUOTE]It's your money it's up to you on who you spend it on.
There is no obligation to buy drinks for anyone except maybe the girl you want to barfine for the night. Don't worry about not getting a girl a drink who you previously bought a drink for. If they are upset they're only acting. They will be your 'best friend' again the next time you visit seeking out their next lady drink.
Another drink saving tip. Just because a girl asks for another drink or the waitress motions that you buy another drink, you definitely DO NOT have to buy another drink at that moment. The girl WILL NOT leave you if she thinks you are her John for the night or more drinks will eventually come her way. If she does leave, she wasn't the right girl you want to be with in the first place.
Sapphire girls are some of the best in the city to hustle naive tourists for drinks. Been there done that. Average drink time is under 15 minutes.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2148340]99% of the Thai girls I don't know can't say the word "serious". Much less even know what it means. Entertaining story though.[/QUOTE]Interesting conclusion. IME Thai girls use the word serious frequently. As in "too serious; think too mutt".
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2148340]99% of the Thai girls I don't know can't say the word "serious". Much less even know what it means. Entertaining story though.[/QUOTE]LOL. We were speaking in Thai and I was paraphrasing for the story. Sillius!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2148663]Another drink saving tip. Just because a girl asks for another drink or the waitress motions that you buy another drink, you definitely DO NOT have to buy another drink at that moment. The girl WILL NOT leave you if she thinks you are her John for the night or more drinks will eventually come her way. If she does leave, she wasn't the right girl you want to be with in the first place.[/QUOTE]That depends on the gogo. My girl just got fired from a gogo (will tell the story later.) Sometimes I would go up there just to buy her and her best friend a drink. If their drink finished and I was not buying another and that mamasan was around then she would make them get up and leave.
She got fired two nights ago. Some customer was buying her and her best friend a lot of drinks. They get 50 baht from each drink. The mamasan got mad that they didn't get the guy to buy her any drinks and fired them both. We went up there last night at 1 am to get the money they were owed but the mamasan was not there. They will go back again tonight to try to get their money.
[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;2148634]Hi fellow ISG members,
I've been sleeping my way through Asia for the last five years and have had many memorable experiences in Bali and Phuket but the opportunity to try Pattaya has always escaped me until now. I'll be travelling to Pattaya this November for my 40th birthday and I will be with Family staying in a resort about a 15 minute walk to all the action. I've read the forum and have a good idea of what to expect but is Pattaya as raunchy as its made out to be? That's kinda what I want with my trip there, I want to try all that is on offer, BJ bars, freelancers in short time hotels, threesomes and massage girls, the raunchier the better. So do any Pattaya vets have any advice for a Pattaya newbie looking to try it all?[/QUOTE]Hi Paul.
I have just returned from my first visit to Pattaya and after going thru Bali and Java you will find Pattaya raunchy! My overall experience was fantastic and I can't wait to return. I had all the plans you have and ticked most of the boxes but threw the plan out and went with the flow. I went to a BJ bar but chose the wrong one, I wanted a BJ in the bar but I was taken upstairs, I should have left but I didn't so my bad. Earlier that day I had a girl I met on Thai Friendly come to my hotel and she gave me a great BJ. I didn't do any freelancers in ST hotels as my hotel was very central and the FLs came to me anyhow as I met them on Thai Friendly. I had 2 threesomes, one with a girl from a gogo who said her friend would be interested and another that I organised with a couple I met on, you guessed it, Thai Friendly. I was thinking of going to the Devils Den but the 2 girls from TF were great and I don't think the girls from DD would have been any better. I didn't do any massage girls.
In regards to the raunchiness I found that the Agogos on Walking Street provided that for us but it may depend on the mood of the place when you enter and your willingness to get down and dirty. We had some great times in some of them like Windmill I think and definitely Crazy House. In Crazy house me and my wingman had about 5 to 6 girls naked and us half naked getting BJs and all but having sex in the place. You will never see anything like it in Bali! As you may of guessed getting line IDs from Thai Friendly works, of the 11 girls I did in Pattaya I barfined 4 from agogos, 1 from a beer bar on Soi 8, 1 from a BJ bar, a threesome from TF, 1 half of threesome from the gogo girl and 2 from TF and one of them bought a friend for my wingman LOL.
For my next visit I will stick with the TF contacts but I won't be planning too much as going with the flow I found lot's of opportunities. We only spent 5 nights in Pattaya and next visit I want to stay at least 7 to 9 nights to really get into the action. I think just being there will offer you the action that you desire. In regards to location of your hotel is it in the Beach Road Second Road area? If so catch the 10 Baht bus, I they do continuous circuits of Beach road and Second Road so that will be better value then taxis.
Good luck and happy travels.
Rob.
God that sounds like an amazing time. Just what I am looking for, I've done the Bali / Java thing a few times and Phuket / Patong once, but I'm hoping Pattaya takes it to a whole different level. I'm on TF also just to get an idea of the fish I hook and its good so far, lots of hot things. I'll be staying with the family but will have a lot of time for adventures during the day and night when away from the resort.
Thanks for the detailed report.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2148692]Hi Paul.
I have just returned from my first visit to Pattaya and after going thru Bali and Java you will find Pattaya raunchy! My overall experience was fantastic and I can't wait to return. I had all the plans you have and ticked most of the boxes but threw the plan out and went with the flow. I went to a BJ bar but chose the wrong one, I wanted a BJ in the bar but I was taken upstairs, I should have left but I didn't so my bad. Earlier that day I had a girl I met on Thai Friendly come to my hotel and she gave me a great BJ. I didn't do any freelancers in ST hotels as my hotel was very central and the FLs came to me anyhow as I met them on Thai Friendly. I had 2 threesomes, one with a girl from a gogo who said her friend would be interested and another that I organised with a couple I met on, you guessed it, Thai Friendly. I was thinking of going to the Devils Den but the 2 girls from TF were great and I don't think the girls from DD would have been any better. I didn't do any massage girls..[/QUOTE]
I tried Nok from devil's den for 1 hour. I was satisfied by her services. The agency was very cooperative and with professional behaviour.
Paul.
You will have a ball. Compared to Bali where thru the day things can be a little slow if you don't have things organised in Pattaya there is always somewhere you can score. I took the attitude with me that I use in Bali by having contacts from online for any day adventures so planning is imperative but going with the flow is the way to go and you will have a blast. Will you have a wingman? I think with at least 2 of you the experience will be better. Good to see you have TF already but don't act to fast as they may not take you seriously if you make contact to far in advance.
All the Best.
Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2148692]Hi Paul.
In Crazy house me and my wingman had about 5 to 6 girls naked and us half naked getting BJs and all but having sex in the place.
Rob.[/QUOTE]Aren't you talking about Dollhouse? Crazy house is everything but crazy?
[QUOTE=JoeFox;2149178]Aren't you talking about Dollhouse? Crazy house is everything but crazy?[/QUOTE]Crazy house on walking street can get as wild as Windmill for a few of the nude models. Problem is they are miles away from what I would describe as a top gogo girl lookswise imo.
[QUOTE=JoeFox;2149178]Aren't you talking about Dollhouse? Crazy house is everything but crazy?[/QUOTE]The night we were there it was crazy. Tuesday the 6 February. We only went once and pretty much after we let them know we were there for a good time and started buying drinks it was on. I go for attitude and sluttiness over the rating system but all but one of the girls would have been early to mid 20's and good bodies. We were fingering and licking pussy at will and by the end of the night our johnsons were out and getting blow jobs from 2 girls each. To top the night off a girl returned from an outcall who was a little cracker and with not much encouragement had her street clothes off and getting into the action. We spent 5000 baht there and regrettably didn't barfine due knowing we were both too drunk to finish!
Maybe we were lucky or sometimes you make your own luck! My wingman and me are both outgoing and easygoing so maybe that contributed to our experience.
Rob.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2149312]Crazy house on walking street can get as wild as Windmill for a few of the nude models. Problem is they are miles away from what I would describe as a top gogo girl lookswise imo.[/QUOTE]Agreed BB, but the place was packed when we visited for 2 nights in a row. We found only 2-3 girls out of maybe 20 or so who were doable. And they were very pushy with the LDs. We went to another gogo that was closeby and they had similar looking girls but the place was dead! I still wonder why CH is pulling in the crowd.
I've always had a good time at CH in Pattaya. They're not all stunners, but there's always a few hotties ready to make the night memorable. I've had plenty of fun in the club as well as barfining a handful of girls from there over the trips.
Checked out the DD website today. Redone in some areas. Quick takes:
1) Prices have gone up.
2) More incall / outcall time options (including 60 minutes incall).
3) Coming soon: Devils Den [I]Bangkok Escorts[/I].
4) Same current group of providers pictured.
[URL]http://devilsdenthailand.com/[/URL]
SL.
Went to the "medical clinic" on soi Bukao for STD tests, a stone's throw from the hospital, at the crossing from the road leading to Centara Hotel. They're open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Blood test for HIV, oral for chlamydia and ghonorrhea. Immediate results. They ask for your passport upfront though.
My girl is happy with 2000 a day. Hotel (Gandview Hideaway Resort) 60 euros a day non refundable but good value. Clean beach, the closest to a dream holiday so far for me in Thailand. One hour bus ride + one hour on the ferry 500 bahts per person. If you want sex you have to bring your own but it is worth it. Pattaya pales in comparison.
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2147485]Hello fellow Pattaya lovers.
I was planning to visit Pattaya during March but work leads to change of plans. So now I'll have a chance for a 2 week vacation during May. I was wondering what is the scene during that period? I mean its low season, I read that a lot of girls go home and will come back during the high season. Is this true?
I was in Pattaya in October and had great fun on Soi 6 and the MP around the other Sois. I checked few GoGos but its not my thing. I prefer freelancers or MPs. So my question is if I came May or end of April, will I have much less choice of girls when we speak about Soi 6, other Soi MPs or regular freelancers (on Beach road or dating apps where I found some girls last time)?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Even in the low of the low season, there are still more girls to choose from than you can ever hope to take with you. In high season there may be more girls (although nobody ever did a count), but there are certainly much more punters, so in the low season the girl-to-punter ration may actually be better.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2150111]In high season there may be more girls (although nobody ever did a count), but there are certainly much more punters, so in the low season the girl-to-punter ration may actually be better.[/QUOTE]I have never heard a Thai chick say she was going back home because it was low season. The same chicks I saw last night, I saw last December and last June.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2150138]I have never heard a Thai chick say she was going back home because it was low season. The same chicks I saw last night, I saw last December and last June.[/QUOTE]That actually makes sense. How many of them can afford a 3 month long vacation?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2150138]I have never heard a Thai chick say she was going back home because it was low season. [/QUOTE]I agree with this. Thai girls have no high season and low season.
Personally I can't wait until June being one of the only customers in a gogo bar with 60+ girls.
No one should ever be concerned about being able to find a girl in Pattaya at any time of the year. There are always fresh faces coming to the scene. Girls turn 18 daily!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2150146]There are always fresh faces coming to the scene. Girls turn 18 daily![/QUOTE]Amen to that BB!
We get older, they stay the same age!!
Just a question out of curiosity which Pattaya regulars or Mr E would be able to answer. Reading this forum I get the impression that certain ethnic groups are banned from entering some gogos and bars for a myriad of reasons. Does that mean those disappointed punters who can't get to bang a Thai hooker effectively return home with blue balls? And if so, why do they keep coming to Pattaya? Surely word would have got around by now that they are not welcome.
The attached article indicates that tourist numbers are increasing from that particular ethnic group each year (although not all are sex tourists). If there was such overt racism in Thailand, why are there a million of them arriving each year?
[URL]https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/thailand-celebrates-one-million-tourist-arrivals-from-india/article8285300.ece[/URL]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2150158]Reading this forum I get the impression that certain ethnic groups are banned from entering some gogos and bars for a myriad of reasons. Does that mean those disappointed punters who can't get to bang a Thai hooker effectively return home with blue balls?[/QUOTE]Neither I nor most of my friends hardly ever step foot into a gogo. There are 1 million ways to get laid in Pattaya, and a gogo only ranks as the most expensive way.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2150158]Just a question out of curiosity which Pattaya regulars or Mr E would be able to answer. Reading this forum I get the impression that certain ethnic groups are banned from entering some gogos and bars for a myriad of reasons. Does that mean those disappointed punters who can't get to bang a Thai hooker effectively return home with blue balls? And if so, why do they keep coming to Pattaya? Surely word would have got around by now that they are not welcome.
The attached article indicates that tourist numbers are increasing from that particular ethnic group each year (although not all are sex tourists). If there was such overt racism in Thailand, why are there a million of them arriving each year?
[URL]https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/thailand-celebrates-one-million-tourist-arrivals-from-india/article8285300.ece[/URL][/QUOTE]First and foremost, Pattaya enjoys a certain 'reputation' when it comes to its attractiveness as a destination for hobbyists, from the part of the world you're talking about, in that any fella, who has been to Pattaya, on going back to his country would go gaga over LOS and the treats it has to offer, which would make his hobbyist friends want to explore what the brouhaha is all about. These chaps would then make it a point to get to LOS one way or another. And when this chain of events is set off in perpetuity, keeping in mind the humongous population, the outcome is easily conceivable. A visitor count of 1 million is a drop in the proverbial bucket. Here, I must punctuate my comments by adding that instances of racial abuse that these fellows have been met with, during their visit to LOS, tend to get brushed under the carpet to a large extent while they are narrating their tales of conquests to their captive audience, who have never been. Also, I'd tend to think that if you are rejected at any joint, you'd not go around glorifying it. Who ever said that they got their ass handed to them? Having said so, make no mistake that LOS does offer quite a few other non-Thai options to these weary souls and even Thai ones for that matter, think - oilies, soapies, BR etc. and that too at low prices in comparison to certain western and middle eastern countries. This remains a big attraction. Despite the rising costs, LOS remains one of the best destinations for hobbying for a bargain punter. Also, truth be told, things have been made VERY easy by VoA offered by Thailand. Believe you me, the donkey work involved for most of these frequent travellers to LOS, were they to even try getting to western shores, would render them both ineligible and ill-equipped to do so as they would neither have the financial means nor the background paperwork etc. to accomplish this 'gargantuan' task. If we have to be brutally honest, many such guys would not be in a position to fill out the visa form required for many developed countries and would have to seek professional help. Hence, the west remains utopia for many such travellers, who, under such circumstances, choose the path of least resistance. This brings me to my third point that, from a budgetary perspective, cheap flights and hotels only add fuel to the fire. There are not many capital cities in the world where you can find a decent 4-5 star hotel in the ballpark of 100 USD and if a flight to Bkk, from some parts of the country, costs almost the same as certain long distance domestic ones, it becomes a very tempting proposition. Now, it would be remiss of me not to mention, as you already have, that many such travellers are routine tourists and honeymooners as LOS has emerged as a big tourist attraction. You'd find many newlyweds on WS, which, quite frankly, I find distasteful. Talk about carrying coals to Newcastle! However, the attraction for any regular tourist or a hobbyist is going to be alike when it comes to the economics of travelling and staying in Thailand. Also, not to discount the fact that having travelled internationally and that stamp, albeit of Thailand VoA, on his, otherwise, virgin passport would give such an individual one more thing to boast about and would, thus, be an added incentive. Lemme also add that the kind of freedom and open opportunity to hobby that LOS offers is most certainly not available to these guys back home. To complement my point, lemme cite an example of a popular Bollywood movie in which a cop catches a couple of horny seniors and mistakenly thinks that they are soliciting a girl on the street. After accepting bribe to let them loose, he offers them free advice that if they were so desperate to get laid, they should go to Bkk as they would have difficulty scoring back home. Further, in the movie, one of the protagonists makes a remarks along the lines of that their home city was no longer safe for hobbying and they should instead go to the capital of debauchery - Bkk, where 50 chicks can be found at every 500 meters. So, this is the image of Bkk, as portrayed in mainstream films. Make what you will of it. All this is my personal opinion based on what I have witnessed during my visits as also discussions with several other people on the subject and is not meant as a statement of fact. Feel free to disagree. Cheers!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2150146]I agree with this. Thai girls have no high season and low season.
Personally I can't wait until June being one of the only customers in a gogo bar with 60+ girls.
No one should ever be concerned about being able to find a girl in Pattaya at any time of the year. There are always fresh faces coming to the scene. Girls turn 18 daily![/QUOTE]And living in Northern Isan I can happily inform you that many, many 18 year olds are on the way to Pattaya and Bangkok.
These girls are coming to work not under duress but for adventure and good money.
From my experience in living amongst these up and cummers is that they are more than happy to work as a provider.
No sick Buffaloes or ill grandmothers where I am.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2150158]
The attached article indicates that tourist numbers are increasing from that particular ethnic group each year (although not all are sex tourists). If there was such overt racism in Thailand, why are there a million of them arriving each year?
[URL]https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/thailand-celebrates-one-million-tourist-arrivals-from-india/article8285300.ece[/URL][/QUOTE]1. Indian males are cursed. Cursed because we can't have girl fiends, not allowed to have sex even if you find one. Prostitution is illegal and mongering is extremely risky business.
2. For the fortunate few that can indulge, the prices are so steep for good looking women that 99.9% of the guys can not afford what they want. If you want to fuck an ugly old hag for $100 or more would you do it?
3. The cost of just 2ST experiences with hot hookers will cost me the same as a 2 day trip to pattaya incl of airfare, hotel and food. Hard to believe that a poor country of a billion plus has such expensive hookers but trust me, $300 is what you must fork for a good shag.
4. All of this leads us to the land of milk and honey. Where I can spend 25 k baht for my trip expenses and 25 k baht for mongering and voila I can have the time of my life for 5 days easy spending the same $300 per day all inclusive which would get me an hour of hot Indian pussy. The choice is quite easy now, isn't it?
5. Let's not kids ourselves. The only reason why most of us come to the LOS is for cheap pussy. If you get the same service from a hot white / Latino / Indian / whatever land you are from / chick for $30 I am sure 90% of us won't be here. I certainly have no reason if I can get a good looking young Indian girls's pussy for anything close to that price without the fear of getting prosecuted.
6. And the fact that Indians are denied pussy is a bit exaggerated. The affluent never have a problem. Even the ones on budget have something that exceeds their expectations. Many are happy enough to get a HJ in a massage parlor for the first time in their lives from a 40 year old Thai lady over and over again. And if they get FS in such locations they are living in their dreams. They just fucked a white girl (relatively speaking) for a week's wage. No one goes back home with blue balls. What else do you want? I thought getting an hour long massage with happy ending at the AMPS found in every corner of a US city my life saver until I got hooked to the 20 year olds in strip clubs.
Anon Mous was 100% right on everything except the fact that Indian guys don't share their bad experiences with their friends back home.
We do hear about it all the time. One of my friends could not stand the humiliation so much that he swore never to come back to Thailand and he stands by it. We tried and tried but he could never accept the fact that Thais would not let him inside a place of entertainment. Oh well. His loss.
The rest of us guys like me are rational. We understand life is not fair and it is too short to whine and complain.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2150751]Anon Mous was 100% right on everything except the fact that Indian guys don't share their bad experiences with their friends back home.
We do hear about it all the time. One of my friends could not stand the humiliation so much that he swore never to come back to Thailand and he stands by it. We tried and tried but he could never accept the fact that Thais would not let him inside a place of entertainment.[/QUOTE]Let me clarify lest my remarks be misinterpreted. Of course, I am sensitive to the fact that any guy, who is a victim of racial abuse, would tend to narrate such instances to his friends etc. All I meant was that such episodes, rather than being dwelled upon at length or being the primary subject matter of discussion, tend to be mentioned in a more 'by the way' sorta manner and the narrative tends to be somewhat colored. Atleast, this is what I have been able to gather. Having said so, there is no denying that such stories of racial mistreatment abound.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2150751]1. Indian males are cursed. Cursed because we can't have girl fiends, not allowed to have sex even if you find one. Prostitution is illegal and mongering is extremely risky business.
2. For the fortunate few that can indulge, the prices are so steep for good looking women that 99.9% of the guys can not afford what they want. If you want to fuck an ugly old hag for $100 or more would you do it?
3. The cost of just 2ST experiences with hot hookers will cost me the same as a 2 day trip to pattaya incl of airfare, hotel and food. Hard to believe that a poor country of a billion plus has such expensive hookers but trust me, $300 is what you must fork for a good shag.
[/QUOTE]Damn man. Where are you mongering? Whenever I am in Mumbai I head straight to Congress House and get chicks there for like $20ST. I was sure a local guy knew better places and could work out better deals, but I guess not. I never realized you guys couldn't have girlfriends. I would always see gangs of guys roving the streets at like 3 am and wonder why there were never any chicks with them.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;2150596]And living in Northern Isan I can happily inform you that many, many 18 year olds are on the way to Pattaya and Bangkok.
These girls are coming to work not under duress but for adventure and good money.
From my experience in living amongst these up and cummers is that they are more than happy to work as a provider.
No sick Buffaloes or ill grandmothers where I am.[/QUOTE]A buddy of mine has been living here 40 years and I was just arguing with him about this the other day. He claims none of the girls like it. But I told him that I am in the thick of things and see everyday how these chicks operate. I have known plenty of chicks to win the lotto in the form of a guy taking them away from it all and in the end those chicks are itchng to come right back to square one.
A friend in the States knows several chicks living in his city that are products of the Walking Street discos and they are over there doing the same shit they did over here. Sure a lot of women are not made to be hookers, but there are others that take to it like a fish to water; until Father Time creeps up on them and you spot them on the working side of a food cart.
Walking Street last night. Overall very weak talent wise. Luckily I have regulars to save my day. I really need to stop going to Walking Street on Friday and Saturday nights.
Palace. Weak for Palace standards but still better than most gogo bars.
Beach Club. I'm giving up on this place.
Infinity. Looked good but no seats so didn't stay.
Marilyn Monroe. Big for sale sign. Anyone want to buy a huge, empty gogo bar?
What's Up. Likely the best lineup last night but still many top girls missing.
Mandarin. Surprisingly ok.
Windmill. Did a fly by. No seats. Nothing worth waiting for.
Fahrenheit. Ok but many missing girls.
Ginza. A lot of hot girls missing.
Baccara. Packed and since it was around 11 pm on a Saturday night most girls already barfined. Cheapest barfine on Walking Street generates a lot of business. Other clubs need to learn from Baccara.
Thanks for the info. I was a little worried that I will find Pattaya with much less girls ready to party but all the things that you said sounds logical.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2150859]A buddy of mine has been living here 40 years and I was just arguing with him about this the other day. He claims none of the girls like it. But I told him that I am in the thick of things and see everyday how these chicks operate. I have known plenty of chicks to win the lotto in the form of a guy taking them away from it all and in the end those chicks are itchng to come right back to square one.
A friend in the States knows several chicks living in his city that are products of the Walking Street discos and they are over there doing the same shit they did over here. Sure a lot of women are not made to be hookers, but there are others that take to it like a fish to water; until Father Time creeps up on them and you spot them on the working side of a food cart.[/QUOTE]You are spot on here Mr. E.
Yes, I'm sure forty even twenty years ago things were vastly different in regards to becoming a provider. The girls nowadays in the villages see sisters, aunts, cousins, friends come back at Songkran and other holidays with bundles of Baht (and the occasional farang). Buying new motorbikes and iPhones and designer sunglasses.
This is the world of the Isan "I want" female. Trust me, they are happy to do the job. Sure we all want to do nothing and get paid (in particular lazy Isan girls 555) but in the meantime as they tell me "Sabai Sabai".
Again, I can only report on what I see and hear. Before living in an Isan village I thought otherwise.
I was thinking about opening some businesses in Thailand since days. One of my friend already has two clubs / Russian show in Pattaya. I never consulted him about it for various reasons.
Can some local players guide / suggest me about opening a gogo / club / BJ bar in Pattaya on either purchase or rent basis. Monkey paw suggested me against it reasons being its too difficult and even very risky for a foreigner as many foreign people found dead in apartments.
What other seniors think about it. Covering all the main aspects like rentals or sale prices, bribes, competition, business and other things.
Thanks.
A first for me last night. Spotted a black dancer in the topless group at Fahrenheit. Very busty and big boned. Not my style but for those looking for a black girl you can see her topless before you partake.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151039]A first for me last night. Spotted a black dancer in the topless group at Fahrenheit. Very busty and big boned. Not my style but for those looking for a black girl you can see her topless before you partake.[/QUOTE]Great Intel.
Can you please confirm if the dancer was / is African or dark skin Isan.
Maybe mixed breed from your "big boned" description?
Thanks again.
Good latest info Banana Boi. I am here for 3 days and wonder which gogos now have talent. This gives a direction. I will try Baccara tonight. Being Indian origin it's hard to get in. But every time I come. They let me in with some convincing.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2150971]Walking Street last night. Overall very weak talent wise. Luckily I have regulars to save my day. I really need to stop going to Walking Street on Friday and Saturday nights.
Palace. Weak for Palace standards but still better than most gogo bars.
Beach Club. I'm giving up on this place.
Infinity. Looked good but no seats so didn't stay.
Marilyn Monroe. Big for sale sign. Anyone want to buy a huge, empty gogo bar?
What's Up. Likely the best lineup last night but still many top girls missing.
Mandarin. Surprisingly ok.
Windmill. Did a fly by. No seats. Nothing worth waiting for..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2151019]Can some local players guide / suggest me about opening a gogo / club / BJ bar in Pattaya on either purchase or rent basis. [/QUOTE]Marilyn Monroe agogo is for sale on Walking Street. Huge sign with contact info. You can't miss it. A few closed up gogo bars for sale in LK Metro. There are some Pattaya sites that list bars for sale. There are always many! Unless you're going to make it unique or have super hot girls it's tough to make a buck owning a bar. Don't forget their are certain people in Pattaya you will need to grease if they see you making any sort of money.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;2151049]Can you please confirm if the dancer was / is African or dark skin Isan.[/QUOTE]
I didn't look closely but if I saw her in a Walmart in the USA I would describe her as Afro-Americian. Not difficult to spot. Larger than any Thai girl.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151039]A first for me last night. Spotted a black dancer in the topless group at Fahrenheit. Very busty and big boned. Not my style but for those looking for a black girl you can see her topless before you partake.[/QUOTE]I was with my man BB and can confirm. Though I think she is half-Thai. BB disagrees.
I think I read about her in on the Pattaya Addicts board. I know there were reports of a half-Thai half black chick in Faranheit. Be warned: she is supposed to have major attitude.
She's got way too much junk in the trunk for me. She does have some nice shapely tits, though.
After a fun gogo crawl with BB I headed to 808. I was in the mood for a thicker chick as my regular girl this trip is more the slim type.
I've been in 808 the last two nights and I have to say it has improved noticeably. I normally don't like the girls there but I spotted 3 or 4 very doable ones this trip. Maybe the quality of the girls has improved. Or maybe my horizons have broadened a bit since I've started going to Cuba? Who knows?
My first trip to 808 two nights afo I was occupied with my regular girl so I didn't hook up with anyone. Last night I hooked up with a very curvaceous girl that grabbed me as I went through the bar. Great dancer and twerked very sexily at the bar for me. Got the nod of approval from several admiring onlookers.
Took her home for some very nice boom boom. Great big juicy ass for pounding and nice firm natural see cups to hang on to for dear life. 555 A surprise rim job finale that had me filling her mouth with baby batter.
Repeated in the morning before I sent her away and my regular girl came over to hang out and swim in the pool before she had to go to work.
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2151019]I was thinking about opening some businesses in Thailand since days. One of my friend already has two clubs / Russian show in Pattaya. I never consulted him about it for various reasons.
Can some local players guide / suggest me about opening a gogo / club / BJ bar in Pattaya on either purchase or rent basis. Monkey paw suggested me against it reasons being its too difficult and even very risky for a foreigner as many foreign people found dead in apartments.
What other seniors think about it. Covering all the main aspects like rentals or sale prices, bribes, competition, business and other things.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The only way to make $1 million from a bar is to start with $2 million. The biggest problem is finding hot girls, and then managing them. Your only forms of revenue are bar fines and drink sales. Hot girls bring the guys in who drink, buy lady drinks and then bar fine. Have you thought that perhaps many bars are just there for laundering drug money? You've got to ask yourself if the legitimate bars were so profitable, then why are so many closing down or are for sale.
Why there is so much traffic on beach and 1st road? I was here last March and baht buses used to breeze through on these roads. Not sure what changed in one year? Getting from Soi 13 to Soi 6 took 20 min at 6 pm.
Yesterday at the usual place in Walking Street I collected the WhatsApp ID of yet another African. Exuberant, skinny, close-cropped dyed hair, conspicuous lip piercing. She was to visit me the next day at 4 pm. My proposal had been "short time one hour 1000 baht". She'd upsold me to 1500, fair enough. However when the time came she said she needed another 200 for transport. She wouldn't budge from that. I ended up blocking her and hurrying to soi 6 to put the swallowed Viagra to some use.
I can't stand last-minute upselling. The reason I persist in seeking contact with the black girls in spite of their being an unpredictable lot is now not so much their asses as the fact that we have some language in common. I'm on the look-out for regulars to escort me on trips to the islands and having no verbal means of communication is a recipe for mutual boredom and irritation in such arrangements.
[QUOTE=XXL;2151211]I persist in seeking contact with the black girls in spite of their being an unpredictable lot is now not so much their asses as the fact that we have some language in common. I'm on the look-out for regulars to escort me on trips to the islands and having no verbal means of communication is a recipe for mutual boredom and irritation in such arrangements.[/QUOTE]If you are speaking of English, where are you meeting Thai women that do not speak English? The ones that I have met that speak no English are few and far between.
One night last week about 1 am I was out on Soi Diana with my girl and that chick Vanessa from Madagascar walked by. I had to whip out my phone and take a picture of her. I told my girl that my friend always talks about this chick and I wanted to get a picture of her.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2151234]If you are speaking of English, where are you meeting Thai women that do not speak English? The ones that I have met that speak no English are few and far between.
One night last week about 1 am I was out on Soi Diana with my girl and that chick Vanessa from Madagascar walked by. I had to whip out my phone and take a picture of her. I told my girl that my friend always talks about this chick and I wanted to get a picture of her.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen this one. Judging from your picture her figure (broad-shouldered and narrow-hipped) is not my cup of tea at all. The one I'm referring to below was Ugandan and her head was nearly shaven (she only had a thin sheep-wool covering of a hair and with the dye it gave her a punkish look).
I find the English of many Thai girls very primitive but I confess I haven't given Thai girls enough attention so far. My experience of Thai girls doesn't reach much further than soi 6 and girls in soi 6 are certainly not the ones with the largest student loans debts.
Fire on Walking Street tonight. I'm not there. Anyone know where? I see a video but it's way too dark to make out where the fire is.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_FfzNoz70[/URL]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151256]Fire on Walking Street tonight. I'm not there. Anyone know where? I see a video but it's way too dark to make out where the fire is.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_FfzNoz70[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks really, really bad. I hope all are safe.
It would be nice if Sapphire burnt to the ground but unfortunately it will likely be businesses that don't deserve such a fate.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151256]Fire on Walking Street tonight. I'm not there. Anyone know where? I see a video but it's way too dark to make out where the fire is.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_FfzNoz70[/URL][/QUOTE]Another video on Pattaya One FB page, posted 10 min ago [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pattayaone1/[/URL].
[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;2151019]I was thinking about opening some businesses in Thailand since days. One of my friend already has two clubs / Russian show in Pattaya. I never consulted him about it for various reasons.
Can some local players guide / suggest me about opening a gogo / club / BJ bar in Pattaya on either purchase or rent basis. Monkey paw suggested me against it reasons being its too difficult and even very risky for a foreigner as many foreign people found dead in apartments.
What other seniors think about it. Covering all the main aspects like rentals or sale prices, bribes, competition, business and other things.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Handy to watch this guy's video's perhaps. He owned several places: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSoqj7YFPEc-ksEkynuRc_Q[/URL].
Besides that I'd say: don't! But not a reasonsable reason behind it except only hearing many bad stories.
So after 5 trips since November its time for some review.
Safety:
Compare to other places I've visited in Europe I can't say I ever felt unsafe in Pattaya. However its a place with lot of man and alcohol so it probably depends on yourself. There have been incidents in the recent past that doesn't make Pataya "safe".
Biggest change of an accidident is not in a club / bar or whatever. But outside. Crossing a road reminds me of the game "frogs". Keep in mind Thai people are bad drivers and this is probably the most unsafe part of the city.
Same for motorbikes. I've used them but only for short distances. Longer then 2-3 km I always took a taxi-meter (car).
From a sex perspective? As Thai people would say "up to you". And from my experience. Anything goes and doesn't matter if its freelance / online / gogo.
Street and soi's.
If you're only want a quick boom boom would say soi 6 (soi sex) is the place to be. Stay out of soi 6/1 unless you're into ladyboys.
Soi 7/8 are mainly beerbars and never saw anything of intrested over there.
Soi 13/1 and 13/2- Some BJ bars and massage places. For me easily to skip.
LK Metro. Basically two streets in the shape of an L filled with bars and gogo's. Saw only a hotty in Pulse (gogo) and Camel toe (bar).
Soi Bakau- Large street near LK Metro also mostly bars.
Walking street is for me more the place to go. But doesn't open before 8 pm.
Lucifer /808/ Insomnia are the main dance clubs with lot of freelancers. Especially Lucifer has the reputation of too many ladies.
IBar (below insomnia) is more of a dance / are&be bar. Good quality of ladies but keep in mind they overcharge farang (tourists).
Most gogo's are about the same: not topless or just a few.
Windmill / Dollhouse / ElectricBlue / sugababes are on the wild side of thinks.
Keep in mind. From soi6 all the way to the end of Walkingstreet is roughly 3,5 KM.
I attached a map.
Online:
Thaifriendly is the place to be. Tinder is also used but doesn't have the amount of ladies you find on Thaifriendly.
For chatting. Keep in mind no one uses western chat apps. Most contact is over LINE.
Most my girls I've met there. Some worked gogo but most of them freelance or massage.
Cool think about LINE is. You can delete the app and done.
Rates:
Can be open for discussion but I've never paid more then 1000 for ST (one time sex) or 2000 LT (stay till next morning).
On my 4th and 5th trip I took a girl for a few days. Especially the 4th trip I had one that I paid 10000 (250 e) and she stayed 10 days. (wow).
Of course I spend twice the amount of money on drinks and food those days.
Daytime:
When the sun is up Pattaya is dead. Yeah you can do massage and so but there is little to nothing to do.
There are a few shopping malls along beach road but nothing special.
Most tourist attractions are too far out of town so would easily set you back 1000 THB on transport (I would not advice renting a bike. See above).
Only thing you need to see? Sanctuary of truth! Amazing.
And go to Phrabat Mountain for a nice view over the city.
If you have a Longtime girl. Going to the movies can be an option and there are some bowling places.
Eating:
So many places so lets limit it to a few.
KISS on second road is awesome. Cheap and cheap and open 24/7.
Royal garden (beachroad) topfloor has a good restaurant.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151256]Fire on Walking Street tonight. I'm not there. Anyone know where? I see a video but it's way too dark to make out where the fire is.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_FfzNoz70[/URL][/QUOTE]Marine Disco, fire spread got the boxing ring downstair, Peppermint, not sure if it got as far to the Russian club and Pier?
[QUOTE=JoeFox;2151320]When the sun is up Pattaya is dead. Yeah you can do massage and so but there is little to nothing to do.[/QUOTE]Huh? When I read this I always think some guys wake up too late and don't know what happen in Pattaya during the day LOL.
Soi 6, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, bodymassage, Kinnaree, Club4, 007, Pirates, Club Sin, J Club, Carre Blanc, LE Telephone, LE Poste, Lo.Li.Ta.s , The Den, Heaven's, Passion, KitCat, all the bars in the Darkside, and many other places. Yes, nothing to do LOL.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151256]Fire on Walking Street tonight. I'm not there. Anyone know where? I see a video but it's way too dark to make out where the fire is.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_FfzNoz70[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://pattayaone.news/en/massive-fire-on-walking-street-destroys-bars-and-sends-tourists-screaming-in-panic/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SamWise1;2151161]Why there is so much traffic on beach and 1st road? I was here last March and baht buses used to breeze through on these roads. Not sure what changed in one year? Getting from Soi 13 to Soi 6 took 20 min at 6 pm.[/QUOTE]Then you must have been lucky last year or you didn't use the buses when it was busy, because the traffic on these roads is a PITA for many years already. It's one of the disadvantages of Pattaya that I hate the most. Luckily there are not that many other disadvantages so I keep coming back LOL.
By the way: it's 2nd Road, not 1st Road.
The talent is low on soi 6 compared to my last October visit. I have to spend time to choose best girls among all the mediocre ones. Went to bar called pussy cat or something and liked one girl. Got some drinks and asked her to come with me. Barfined her for 600 (thought this was higher. Yesterday I gave only 400 at different bar) I think mama San was not happy with me as I was taking her to my hotel. She asked me to take her upstairs and that might be reason for high barfine. She was one of the best in clum and that might be reason for mamas concern. Anyway at hotel she was very nice. We showered together. She has perfect firm body. Really nice ass. We laid down in bed for 15 min talking and watching her photos on her phone. I also took some of her photo as I like her back tattoo - (attached). I think her tits was smaller but firm. If they would have been bigger she would be perfect figure. Followed the BJ which she did good job at. And then fuck with different position. I loved doggy the most as I could see her ass bouncing. They did really good job with those wall mirrors at Baraquda. I love this hotel where though can see girl while fucking. Kinda turn me on.
Paid her 1500 as agreed and 100 buck tip for being good and taxi.
Going to walking street now for my second round.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2151603]Then you must have been lucky last year or you didn't use the buses when it was busy, because the traffic on these roads is a PITA for many years already. It's one of the disadvantages of Pattaya that I hate the most. Luckily there are not that many other disadvantages so I keep coming back LOL.
By the way: it's 2nd Road, not 1st Road.[/QUOTE]Yes. I mean to say 2nd road. Maybe last time I missed the traffic somehow. The heat and all pollution from vehicle making it hard to walk on those streets.
Looks like the fire happend just up the street on soi 16. This video shows the sign of the business across the street pretty clearly.
[URL]https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/fire-at-pattaya-nightspot-rips-through-bars-as-tourists-flee-10033698[/URL]
Think this streetview shot is where the shot of the fireman sitting down was taken.
[QUOTE=XXL;2150079]Went to the "medical clinic" on soi Bukao for STD tests, a stone's throw from the hospital, at the crossing from the road leading to Centara Hotel. They're open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Blood test for HIV, oral for chlamydia and ghonorrhea. Immediate results. [/QUOTE]What about HSV? If one has a SO and returns home with the gift that keeps giving, there will be some drama, drama, drama!
Seriously. I will arrive early in the morning (late at night?) after a long flight. I can't believe I'd be able to check in to a hotel that early. A massage (even legit will be most welcome. Is there anywhere to hang out in the wee hours of the morning?
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2151581]Huh? When I read this I always think some guys wake up too late and don't know what happen in Pattaya during the day LOL.
Soi 6, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, bodymassage, Kinnaree, Club4, 007, Pirates, Club Sin, J Club, Carre Blanc, LE Telephone, LE Poste, Lo.Li.Ta.s , The Den, Heaven's, Passion, KitCat, all the bars in the Darkside, and many other places. Yes, nothing to do LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoldaMeir;2151699]Seriously. I will arrive early in the morning (late at night?) after a long flight. I can't believe I'd be able to check in to a hotel that early. A massage (even legit will be most welcome. Is there anywhere to hang out in the wee hours of the morning?[/QUOTE]I always sleep at 4-5 am but WS discos are still open. I think some massage shops in soi Honey are open 24 HR, but not sure about this.
[QUOTE=XXL;2150079]Went to the "medical clinic" on soi Bukao for STD tests, a stone's throw from the hospital, at the crossing from the road leading to Centara Hotel. They're open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Blood test for HIV, oral for chlamydia and ghonorrhea. Immediate results. They ask for your passport upfront though.
My girl is happy with 2000 a day. Hotel (Gandview Hideaway Resort) 60 euros a day non refundable but good value. Clean beach, the closest to a dream holiday so far for me in Thailand. One hour bus ride + one hour on the ferry 500 bahts per person. If you want sex you have to bring your own but it is worth it. Pattaya pales in comparison.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming both you and your girl go in hand in hand and get the results together.
[QUOTE=GoldaMeir;2151699]Seriously. I will arrive early in the morning (late at night?) after a long flight. I can't believe I'd be able to check in to a hotel that early. A massage (even legit will be most welcome. Is there anywhere to hang out in the wee hours of the morning?[/QUOTE]If you book in advance and notify the hotel of your time of arrival you should be able to check in. Most hotels keep your room reserved until a certain time, like 10 PM or midnight, and then cancel your reservation if you haven't shown up. So it's essential you notify them of your late time of arrival.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2151685]What about HSV? If one has a SO and returns home with the gift that keeps giving, there will be some drama, drama, drama![/QUOTE]Valid point! If you have a SO then you better not carry anything back. What will your reaction be if it's your SO who was playing with pretty little boyz and bringing you back an unpleasant gift?
The least you can do is play it safe!! You owe it.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2151734]If you book in advance and notify the hotel of your time of arrival you should be able to check in. Most hotels keep your room reserved until a certain time, like 10 PM or midnight, and then cancel your reservation if you haven't shown up. So it's essential you notify them of your late time of arrival.[/QUOTE]If you are coming in early morning, best idea will be book the hotel obviously for the night before AND intimate the hotel about your late arrival. It is standard procedure and will help both sides avert an unpleasant start.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2151737]If you are coming in early morning, best idea will be book the hotel obviously for the night before AND intimate the hotel about your late arrival. It is standard procedure and will help both sides avert an unpleasant start.[/QUOTE]I'm landing early in the morning and will try to check in early if possible. The hope is the hotel has a free room and the reception is kind enough to let us into at least one of the rooms early. If not there's enough to do around the area until rooms open up. The cheaper the hotel and more popular, the less likely you'll be able to check in early.
Hit some BJ bars / G clubs today around 4 pm. The Den, Bliss, soi full love Inn. Absolutely nothing. I knew my soi full love Inn regular wasn't working today.
Arrived at Soi 6 around 5 pm. It was actually the best I've seen it for a long while. Haven't been for a bit since I was out of town on a visa run. Maybe about 6 doable girls around 5 pm which is about 5 more than some days for me. Was noticeably weaker talent and fewer girls at 7 pm. Chose a new face to me at one of the new bars on the 6. Fun girl. May visit again tomorrow. I really liked one girl with short hair but even though we were staring at her she preferred her phone to us.
[QUOTE=GoldaMeir;2151699]Seriously. I will arrive early in the morning (late at night?) after a long flight. I can't believe I'd be able to check in to a hotel that early. A massage (even legit will be most welcome. Is there anywhere to hang out in the wee hours of the morning?[/QUOTE]Perfect time to go eat with all the girls at a BBQ buffet or Shabu place.
There's a 24 hour restaurant in the basement of royal garden mall. Better than hanging out at burger King or McDonald's.
Ibar is open til 6 or 7 am I think.
All Thai bars are open all night long.
I believe the gym at Avenue mall is open 24 hours. You can even take a shower there. I think it's 300 baht for 1 day, 1700 per month.
If you're arriving in Bangkok, grab a room there, go grab a girl, and come to pattaya the following day.
Anyone been to Ban Chang lately? Just wondering if it's worth the hour taxi ride. If so, which are the best bars now?
Had a great time with BB cruising on Soi 6 last night. Lineup was pretty good, with at least 6 girls I'd go with. Much, much better than Soi Love Inn.
Had two excellent sessions. Lots of DFK, great long BBJs, and CIM. I would have gone for a 3rd but I had to save something for my regular who I was meeting later that evening when she got off work.
Both of the girls I went with were very wet. One unusually so. I think some girls may be applying KY to their pussies beforehand. I'm not a fan of KY. But I found it to be OK this time as the pussies still felt nice and warm. I just hate that cold wet feeling you get from KY when its just been freshly applied. Yuck!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151977]Anyone been to Ban Chang lately? Just wondering if it's worth the hour taxi ride. If so, which are the best bars now?[/QUOTE]If you got nothing to do want to kill time but I've done it twice only because of friends in town and to me just a waste. At best a notch above the Darkside if you get lucky?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151749]Hit some BJ bars / G clubs today around 4 pm. The Den, Bliss, soi full love Inn. Absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]Did you get to the Gentlemen's clubs on Bong Koch 8? I'm arriving Saturday around midday and plan to head there for opening time. The alternative is near Soi Chaipapoon & Soi Lengkee where some places open earlier.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151749]Hit some BJ bars / G clubs today around 4 pm. The Den, Bliss, soi full love Inn. Absolutely nothing. I knew my soi full love Inn regular wasn't working today.
Arrived at Soi 6 around 5 pm. It was actually the best I've seen it for a long while. Haven't been for a bit since I was out of town on a visa run. Maybe about 6 doable girls around 5 pm which is about 5 more than some days for me. Was noticeably weaker talent and fewer girls at 7 pm. Chose a new face to me at one of the new bars on the 6. Fun girl. May visit again tomorrow. I really liked one girl with short hair but even though we were staring at her she preferred her phone to us.[/QUOTE]Boi,
How much is the usual cost of a drink and FS in the back in Soi 6 now a days? Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone,
Are the short time rooms still available in the bars on Soi 6 or have they been shut down and banned by the police and government? Just wondering as I read in the news about the police crackdown last year and these spots will make up the majority of my trip.
[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;2152437]Hi everyone,
Are the short time rooms still available in the bars on Soi 6 or have they been shut down and banned by the police and government? Just wondering as I read in the news about the police crackdown last year and these spots will make up the majority of my trip.[/QUOTE]Around here things like that don't usually last but about 3 days until it is back to business as usual. Talking about something last year is like ancient history.
[QUOTE=Omigawd;2152429]Boi,
How much is the usual cost of a drink and FS in the back in Soi 6 now a days? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Prices haven't changed. 60-100 for drink, 120-150 for lady drink, 300-350 BF, 1000 for girl. Drink prices are an estimate. I don't pay too much attention to drink prices on Soi 6 or G Clubs since I know it will be cheap. I only pay attention at gogo bars.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2152358]Did you get to the Gentlemen's clubs on Bong Koch 8? [/QUOTE]Bongkoch 8 is Soi Full Love inn. To be fair, Pirates has the 2 girls named May but Pirates is usually too busy for my liking in a G Club.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2152117]If you got nothing to do want to kill time but I've done it twice only because of friends in town and to me just a waste. At best a notch above the Darkside if you get lucky?[/QUOTE]
Well that's not good. Dark Side was pretty bad the last 2x I went. I'm scheduled for another Dark Side run soon. I'm always searching for my hidden gem in a wasteland.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2152526]Prices haven't changed. 60-100 for drink, 120-150 for lady drink, 300-350 BF, 1000 for girl.[/QUOTE]I remember paying in November last year, 1000 all inclusive for girl and the room in a dull afternoon but on the same day in the evening I paid 1400 for the girl plus room. Is this variation quite normal depending on the day or girl or bar?
I believe there is no separate barfine since you are not taking the girl out of the bar. Instead you pay for the room.
Is the barfine same at LK Metro bars and other beer bar streets like Soi 7/8 too?
Will be good to know for my upcoming July visit, thanks!
It's been 300 for room fee (I call it barfine) but some bars increased room fees to 350 about a year ago. I read somewhere some bars have now increased to 400 but I have not experienced this. The 1000 has always been the rate paid to the girl directly. I believe it's Mr. E who says he gets the 1000 all-inclusive like you quoted. Never heard of anyone else who gets these special rates. Rates do not change during the day vs. The night or during different days of the week. Maybe the bar forgot to charge you for the room fee when you paid 1000 all-inclusive?
I haven't barfined anyone from a Soi 7 or 8 bar for well over a year but used to be 300 baht if I remember correctly. Not sure how much the LK Metro / Soi Buakhao bars like Scooter's and Billabong cost. Anyone know?
[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;2152437]
Are the short time rooms still available in the bars on Soi 6[/QUOTE]Yes, ST rooms are available.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2152595] I read somewhere some bars have now increased to 400 but I have not experienced this. [/QUOTE]All NightWish Group Bars have increased their room to 400 baht since January.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2152595]It's been 300 for room fee (I call it barfine) but some bars increased room fees to 350 about a year ago. I read somewhere some bars have now increased to 400 but I have not experienced this. The 1000 has always been the rate paid to the girl directly. I believe it's Mr. E who says he gets the 1000 all-inclusive like you quoted. Never heard of anyone else who gets these special rates. Rates do not change during the day vs. The night or during different days of the week. Maybe the bar forgot to charge you for the room fee when you paid 1000 all-inclusive?
I haven't barfined anyone from a Soi 7 or 8 bar for well over a year but used to be 300 baht if I remember correctly. Not sure how much the LK Metro / Soi Buakhao bars like Scooter's and Billabong cost. Anyone know?[/QUOTE]May be it was a mistake but I checked my notes from last visit and I did pay 1000 all incl just one time. It was either Lisa bar or Jungle bar on Soi6. Not a big difference since either way it is great value for money but the search is painful looking for the one that turns you on instantly.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2152584]I remember paying in November last year, 1000 all inclusive for girl and the room in a dull afternoon but on the same day in the evening I paid 1400 for the girl plus room. Is this variation quite normal depending on the day or girl or bar?
I believe there is no separate barfine since you are not taking the girl out of the bar. Instead you pay for the room.
Is the barfine same at LK Metro bars and other beer bar streets like Soi 7/8 too?
Will be good to know for my upcoming July visit, thanks![/QUOTE]As noted, with respect to the Nightwish bars in as an example, you won't be getting the girl for 600 baht (plus the room fee of 400). In this example you were lucky or are extremely good looking.
With regards to paying the girl 1400 PLUS room fee. That is overs, and in my experience unusual, but that is what you agreed upon. Other's may not.
Soi's 7&8 and Bukhao are all completely different and you could be paying 1000 or 1500 for the barfine, plus another 1500 to 2000 for the girl (in establishments like Shooters). Or, 300 or 400 barfine and 1000 for a girl at the other end of the spectrum.
Best to ask in the early stages of your visit to the bar.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151039]A first for me last night. Spotted a black dancer in the topless group at Fahrenheit. Very busty and big boned. Not my style but for those looking for a black girl you can see her topless before you partake.[/QUOTE]She's been in Fahrenheit for years. Big boned as you say, and doesn't ooze sex or beg you for it.
Nice lady to chat to tho and definitely stands out looks wise.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2152595]The 1000 has always been the rate paid to the girl directly. I believe it's Mr. E who says he gets the 1000 all-inclusive like you quoted. Never heard of anyone else who gets these special rates.[/QUOTE]That is because nobody else ever wants to negotiate. It is no special rate at all. If I am buying pussy or some item (besides food) from a street vendor then I always negotiate. Recently another buddy that lives here had an electronic iPhone lighter that charges by USB. He said he paid 700 baht for it. When I ran into a guy selling them the guy wanted 850 baht. I negotiated him down to 300 baht, then other friends at the table started buying them from him as well. And that is the same reason I get a taxi at the airport for 900 baht. Why anyone around here would take the first price that is given is beyond me.
[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;2152437]Hi everyone,
Are the short time rooms still available in the bars on Soi 6 or have they been shut down and banned by the police and government? Just wondering as I read in the news about the police crackdown last year and these spots will make up the majority of my trip.[/QUOTE]Yes, the ST rooms are still available when I was there on March 10th 2018. The 300 room rate has increased from 300 to 350-400.
Starting to gear up for my 7th, bi-annual Pattaya trip! Will be in town for 2 weeks in 5-1/2 weeks, so time is getting short. Thanks to a great stock market I will splurge and fly EVA business from LAX to BKK, departing in the wee hours and landing late morning. I should be well rested and able to hit Pattaya running. I love EVA, but that may be because they have cute FA's and it is the airline I have always used to take me to the Land of Smiles!
I am trying to rely more on Thai Friendly this time to locate girls. I have not yet joined, but I will 2 weeks before I leave. Even so, I have been making a number of contacts already with their one free message every 10 minutes deal (though some of the most popular girls are locked out for use cheap skates). The vast majority of girls have ignored me, but I figure that is mostly because they only want to be contacted when you are ready to meet them), but a few have chatted and given me their Line, including a beauty with a cute GF looking for three ways. Anyway, there are a few hot girls on there, or at least with hot bodies, that I hope to make arrangements with.
And of course I can't wait to get back to Soi 6! Glad to hear things are looking good there!
I have said it before, but I do want to explore a bit more. I have become too comfortable at Soi 6, and too adverse to venues outside Soi 6, Soi 2 and WS. I realize the number of future visits to Pattaya are getting quite limited as I approach mid-60's.
I will also spend 2 weeks with my Thai GF. It should be more fun with her now that her virginity thing has been taken care of, and to celebrate we will go to Hong Kong and cruise to Okinawa. She used the L word as I was pounding her last time, so that will have to be addressed, and she could be the limiting factor on future Pattaya trips.
But for now, I will try to have some fun, see some hotties, get in a 3-way or two, and get some photographs, while I can.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2152982] I have become too comfortable at Soi 6, and too adverse to venues outside Soi 6, Soi 2 and WS. [/QUOTE]What's there is Soi 2?
Baht bus after baht bus disgorging men into Walking Street. Walking Street like outside a stadium after a soccer match. Men everywhere. Men, men men! Men in twos, in threes, men in clusters and groups. Men on their own. Men touting bottles of beer, drunk men. Men spoiling for a fight. Flow and counterflow of men. Horny men. Men throwing their weight around. Men, men, men! Rare girls, baiting more men into places filled with men.
To iBar. Men everywhere. One or two places to sit or stand next to men. Girls surrounded by men. 4 or 5 men to 1 girl. Men, men, men!
[QUOTE=XXL;2153038]Walking Street like outside a stadium after a soccer match. Men everywhere. Men, men men!
To iBar. Men everywhere. One or two places to sit or stand next to men. Girls surrounded by men. 4 or 5 men to 1 girl. Men, men, men![/QUOTE]It's why I do gogo bars and not iBar. I was at one of my favorite gogo bars last night. 60+ girls and maybe 15 guys. Pretty good girl:guy ratio for early March. All girls are trying to get my attention. Love it early in the week and when it's not a Japanese or Korean holiday.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2152982]I am trying to rely more on Thai Friendly this time to locate girls. I have not yet joined, but I will 2 weeks before I leave. Even so, I have been making a number of contacts already with their one free message every 10 minutes deal (though some of the most popular girls are locked out for use cheap skates). The vast majority of girls have ignored me, but I figure that is mostly because they only want to be contacted when you are ready to meet them)[/QUOTE]I was going to make a report later, but since you brought it up. A buddy of mine had been raving about Thai Friendly and I would go on every now and then and do the one message deal. Did it the other night and was like fuck it and decided to pay for 3 months. I looked at my profile and saw I have had that account since 2010. Never really used it though.
DO NOT pay 2 weeks before. As you have said 99% of the chicks on there want to be contacted when you are ready to meet them. And I mean at that very exact moment. It is like an electronic Beach Road. And help you if you give them your LINE ID. They are going to send you a message every day asking if you are ready to meet. The idea of building contacts does not register with them. It is like McDonald's sending a worker out in the street everyday making them walk around shake people's hands and tell them to come eat some hamburgers. They do not understand that when you are ready for hamburgers you will go to the McDonald's on your own. The chicks do not understand that when you are ready to fuck, you will contact them.
I gave this one chick my LINE and she kept sending me pictures saying how handsome I was and how she liked guys like me and if I wanted to see her right then. The first day I told her that I was busy with friends. She did the same thing the second day and when I told her not right now she started calling me all kind of racial slurs and shit and saying how ugly I was. She even did some through voice message.
I met one chick the other night who works at a normal bar. I went up to the bar to see her. I bought me a drink and bought her a drink. She gets 50 baht from each drink. She kept trying to get me to buy more drinks but I told her I didn't want more drinks. Oh. When I got there, there was another Black guy with her but he was leaving. I told her you already have a boyfriend huh? She said no. Then her exact words were, "I do not go with men for money. I am not a be*tch. " So we were going to shoot pool at 1 am when she got off work. I went and picked her up but she was too drunk to go shoot pool so we went back to my place. She wanted to stop and get some bananas. I tried to pay for them and she said don't worry. I know you are a Cheap Charlie. I will pay. I was laughing my ass off. We got home and she wanted a t-shirt. She said not to bother her but of course you are not going to lie in my bed and we ain't fucking. So one thing leads to another. The next day I dropped her off then I sent her a message and could sense her attitude had changed. I finally asked what the problem was. She said she was looking for money! So I guess she was angry that I had not given her any after she told me that is not what she does.
I sent another chick a message last night at 2 am and 5 minutes later I was at her door. I have several more stories over the past few days and have fucked a couple more chicks from the site. So I am telling you that from my experience Thai Friendly is only to be used when you are immediately ready to have someone come over.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2153133] So I am telling you that from my experience Thai Friendly is only to be used when you are immediately ready to have someone come over.[/QUOTE]Always valuable advice!
I work from home at my computer so I can easily tap out a message for free every 10 minutes. I seem to have sent out about 120 messages so far with 12 responses, for a 10% hit rate. Of those, about half have made multiple responses, but it is mostly "did you have a good day?" and "yes, thanks, did you?" sort of thing that dies out after a few days. Maybe 3 continue with daily sharing of simple events. I hope to see them in particular, but as you warn, they may continue to nag after I am done.
I suppose the only reason for me now to get the short membership is to make contact with the popular girls who are otherwise restricted. Sometimes they do become available after a week, and a few of them list their contact information in their profile. But, there are plenty of attractive girls on there, so I will probably heed your sage advice and stick to the free membership. But of course, I am following a near-perfect girl right now, and by the time I arrive she is still a high-lister, I may break down so I can contact her! This girl may cost thousands of TB in a gogo club, so I might actually save money in that case.
But thanks for the advice! Hope to see you next month.
[QUOTE=XXL;2153038]Baht bus after baht bus disgorging men into Walking Street. Walking Street like outside a stadium after a soccer match. Men everywhere. Men, men men! Men in twos, in threes, men in clusters and groups. Men on their own. Men touting bottles of beer, drunk men. Men spoiling for a fight. Flow and counterflow of men. Horny men. Men throwing their weight around. Men, men, men! Rare girls, baiting more men into places filled with men.
To iBar. Men everywhere. One or two places to sit or stand next to men. Girls surrounded by men. 4 or 5 men to 1 girl. Men, men, men![/QUOTE]What do you expect on Walking Street? It's the sex capital of the world. The girls are there to make money and the men gladly pay.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2153296]What do you expect on Walking Street? It's the sex capital of the world. The girls are there to make money and the men gladly pay.[/QUOTE]I was there 1 month ago and it didn't seem that bad! Plenty of guys in the street but 5 to 1? In the gogos it seemed like the other way round.
Hi Guys.
I agree with Mr E. I wouldn't pay any membership fees at all. The girls are for the moment and if you are there on the ground they will respond. Very few understand the concept of planning for future business and will even jeopardise future business with rudeness or ignore you. BTW this is not only in Thailand but I have found Indonesian girls are the same. A few will put their line ID on their profiles or sometimes it is their TF ID so if I think they are ok I will add their ID and contact when I'm there. I will comment on their timeline if it is funny or a sexy pic and sometimes they will acknowledge these actions and that helps when you are there.
A tactic I used 1 week before my visit in February was to contact all on my interested list and stated I would be there on the 3rd February and I got a 33% positive response and then did the same with my Line contacts and set up a threesome and had 2 girls for mid morning sessions pre-organised so for a 5 day visit it got me 3 sessions and I did a no show on 2 only because I was already occupied and couldn't be bothered to reschedule. In Bangkok my wingman was down with food poisoning and was resting for the afternoon and I had a girl in my room within an hour.
All in all TF is a good tool to use but I wouldn't rely on it as your only means for hook ups.
Thanks Rob.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2153076]It's why I do gogo bars and not iBar. I was at one of my favorite gogo bars last night. 60+ girls and maybe 15 guys. Pretty good girl:guy ratio for early March. All girls are trying to get my attention. Love it early in the week and when it's not a Japanese or Korean holiday.[/QUOTE]The best gogo bar is Windmill. You can buy the girl a drink then finger her pussy in public. LOL.
There is an Aussie guy staying at Maleez lodge who has just beaten up one of the freelance girls.
[QUOTE=Markly2;2153772]There is an aussie guy staying at Maleez lodge who has just beaten up one of the freelance girls.[/QUOTE]He hasn't been arrested?
[QUOTE=Markly2;2153772]There is an aussie guy staying at Maleez lodge...[/QUOTE]Ah, The Mazeez Lodge. Such a fine establishment I'm surprised there would ever be any issues from their guests.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2153825]He hasn't been arrested?[/QUOTE]No, reception at hotel told girl in not so many words that it was her own fault.
[QUOTE=Markly2;2153945]No, reception at hotel told girl in not so many words that it was her own fault.[/QUOTE]Translation. Maleez Lodge DOES NOT want negative publicity!
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Advice needed, help please. I have two options for my next trip in the Land of smiles. Just before and during the Songkran (between 5-18 April) or to wait a little bit and to come between 25 April - 10 May.
My concern about option 1 is that maybe during Songkran a lot of girls will go back home to see family and so on. I'm thinking that some of them will leave even earlier if you compare that kind of holidays with the European new year. Everybody is going back home, relax a little bit then start working again. And also I do not like the idea me to be moving target for hundreds of kids and adults trying to wet everybody with water guns, buckets, etc.
My concern about option 2 (during 25 April - 10 May) is that again about lack of girls because they are still back to their hometowns and yet are not come back in Pattaya. I read that it rains a lot during end of April and the beginning of May. Although the weather will be not a problem if the girls are around.
The positive thing, mention from other members below, is that at least the "competition" will be very weak as its offseason.
If any of you have personal experience, please can you share it? Thanks.