Medellin Reports

Hola Dudes,

Let me preface this post by stating I'm currently stoned and have been binge watching the new Twin Peaks series over the past couple of days. This show has me twisted.

Last Friday, I get a wild hair and contact a chica on Mileroticos. Normally, I stay away from these sites as they are usually expensive, big difference between photo vs actual, and the meet gets fucked up. Since she had big real tits, I decided to hit her up on Whatsapp. She responds quickly, gives me a quote of 120 k per hora, and is available this evening. Beautiful. Get over to Laureles (she didn't provide the exact location) right around our agreed bang time, and this chick goes dark for a good hour. Finally responds to my text, and goes dark dark again for another hour. After drinks and dinner, I had to bail on this broad. Next day, she sent me a text saying she went out and partied. At least lie to me and say your kid got sick.

The great thing about MDE, when a chica flakes, another opportunity presents itself. I roll over to Conejitas strip club by Parque Botero where 1/2 hour will run ya 70 k. For some reason, It was really slim pickens on that night. The only one I see doable is the dancer who just finished stripping. I actually banged her on the previous weekend. Nice flacita. I'm sitting there drinking a beer and finally a smokin hot chica walks by in street clothes holding one of those jumbo gol chocolate bars. She's about 5'7 with curves in all the right places, Her tits are glowing. Not sure if she was just arriving or just finished, but I really didn't give an F. I stuttered and asked if she was available, she was all in.

We head up to their rooms. I don't know what happened, but they are no longer the bomb. They are now on par with most of the Centro casas which suck! Too bad because they used to be really nice. This chica comes prepared. She whips out a silk sheet. Nice touch! Fantastic body. Fake tits but they have movement to them and she has hangar setting nipples. We start to go at it and as I insert I can feel her "pan" throbbing with each passing moment. It felt like I was on a rollercoaster ascending one notch at a time. I remember thinking Is this thing going to suck me in like one of Cooper's (Twin Peaks) deranged dreams? We get into another position, and it happens again. Strangest thing I ever felt. Needless to say I had a nice jerk, and secretly thanked the other chica for bailing on me.

I have been very fortunate this trip. A buddy of mine set me up with a 22 yr old barrio chica, and we have hit it off. This girl has pornstar natural Double Dee tits. Think Shione Cooper, or Cassandra Calogera. Just amazing to get all crazy with those things. Takes me back to my days in BA and Lima. Banged her out on the balcony the other night to check a fantasy off her list.

Tonight she came over again. I took a hit of weed out of her mouth. Normally the ganja kills my wood. However tonight it was my blue pil. I lifted her on the island in my apartment kitchen to quench another fantasy of hers. Went in for some DATY. That was fun! Then went to town with her on that god damn island as MJ was playing in the background (her choice not mine.) had some really good leverage goin on. Too bad the island couldn't handle a really hard bang. Still felt awesome! We continued for a nice long hard bang session all over that little apartment!

One of the best weeks I've had her in MDE so far.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2104186]The emphasis is on few there. The cops discourage it and when there's a dignitary in town they try to clear it out completely.

Does anyone know if The Beer Store currently has hookers sitting at the tables? When I was there back in April there were a few but I don't think they would actually go home with customers. The server told me they were brought in to keep customers drinking.[/QUOTE]Haven't seen any sitting at The Beer Store, except 1 or 2 who have been with mongers. There were about a dozen girls working the park tonight about 12:30 when I strolled through.

I believe you gave the wrong address. 48-39 would be the Church.

It should be Calle 56 (Bolivia) #43-39.

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The next day I walked down to the train and got on it to Prado and walked along Av. Oriental to the outer side streets to find New Life. Be warned it's just like Amsterdam and the privehuizen in that everything is TOTALLY discreet for these places and there's NO signage (not even an identifier on a mailbox), so it all looks like just a regular residential neighborhood. And you've GOT to have the exact street address, including the numbers (e. G. 48-39). And with New Life the tip about the blue door helped.

They buzz you in and you go to a waiting area and the lineup comes out one-by-one, shaking your hand and giving a name. Hard to remember all that and I didn't get some of the names right (they get annoyed if they have to bring them out again). There were 2 locals in the area at the same time and one took the one that was going to be my first choice, Jennifer, so I had to go to the second choice and didn't get the name just so but I think it was Natalie. As has been mentioned, they have posted prices and you can also get a beer.

She did a workmanlike routine with the CBJ, but I was disappointed in my own performance after that. Too much walking, no blue pill, wrong time of day, whatever. No lead in the pencil, so she went to massage for about 5 minutes and then the 30 was up. Damage at 50 K, so might as well work out the kinks at that pricing point.

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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2104202]Haven't seen any sitting at The Beer Store, except 1 or 2 who have been with mongers. There were about a dozen girls working the park tonight about 12:30 when I strolled through.[/QUOTE]I second that, last night I was sitting on a bench in the park around 12:00 and was approached by 4 ladies and some were in groups of even more working girls. Only saw maybe 2-3 cops.

Anyone who put their number out there is a puta.

Most Colombian models prepagos.

Message them on WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2104319]I believe you gave the wrong address. 48-39 would be the Church.

It should be Calle 56 (Bolivia) #43-39.[/QUOTE]Sorry if any misunderstanding. I didn't mean the 48-39 to refer specifically to New Life, but rather to serve as just a generic example of a street number.

Here's a tip I left out that may be helpful: The best pharmacy I found on selection + prices was Drogueria Sur No. 2 at 53-113 Carrera 51. That street is the street that runs under the rail line around Parque Berrios station, and the street number is a little ways up the road in the direction of Prado station and on the same side of the road as Plaza Botero (and not a long walk at all from there). Unlike with the massage places, there is signage. They had a generic brand of the blue pill at 4 x 50 MG at COP 4200 for the box, though I went for the Genfar one with 4 x 50 MG at COP 6000 for the box. Also good prices on other stuff.

Also walked by the places on the plaza near the museum (Conejitas, etc.) and wondered about 'em. Didn't have time to check it out, alas. I guess another to-do for next time.

Hello all,

I'm planning my first trip to MDE and I'm looking for some advice. Note that I speak zero Spanish but I can learn some phrases before going. Anyways, after reading the forum, I've a few q's.

1. a lot of people advise staying in Poblado, specifically near Lleras Park for the first time. I saw that most casas and strip clubs are somewhat far away. Is this because of Mansion, the SGs, and safety?

2. if I want to stay near the casa area, is there a recommended mid-range hotel?

3. I hear a lot about using Facebook. I tried Googling prepagos Medellin in FB without any meaningful results, which was kind of expected. How does this work?

Hope to report back. I've only reported in Asia thus far and this would be my first Latin American country.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2104628]Hello all,

I'm planning my first trip to MDE and I'm looking for some advice. Note that I speak zero Spanish but I can learn some phrases before going. Anyways, after reading the forum, I've a few q's.

1. a lot of people advise staying in Poblado, specifically near Lleras Park for the first time. I saw that most casas and strip clubs are somewhat far away. Is this because of Mansion, the SGs, and safety?

2. if I want to stay near the casa area, is there a recommended mid-range hotel?

3. I hear a lot about using Facebook. I tried Googling prepagos Medellin in FB without any meaningful results, which was kind of expected. How does this work?

Hope to report back. I've only reported in Asia thus far and this would be my first Latin American country.[/QUOTE]1. Unless you speak spanish I would say stick to the advice. It will be more enjoyable and for your safety. Don't let your first trip be a bust and get hurt. Worse, be that idiot gringo that got killed.

2. See response #1.

3. Yes FB is an excellent way. First find some names listed in previous reports. Then request to be friended. If she does, you now opened the door to her and her friends.

Enjoy. Don't be "That Gringo" in MDE.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2104628]Hello all,

1. a lot of people advise staying in Poblado, specifically near Lleras Park for the first time. I saw that most casas and strip clubs are somewhat far away. Is this because of Mansion, the SGs, and safety?

2. if I want to stay near the casa area, is there a recommended mid-range hotel?[/QUOTE]Yes safety, the downtown Centro area (aka La Candelaria) where most the Casa's and cheaper strip clubs and redlight blocks are gets a little sketchy at night, wandering homeless and drug addicts etc. I stay there when I go but I speak fluent Spanish, lived in Central America for 5 years and a bad part of Washington DC for a year and spent a year in Kandahar Afghanistan so it seems fine to me. LOL.

I stay at the Hotel Botero for $26 a night, they have a roof top bar / sauna with a great view of the city, it's 15 story and no prob with chicas. (but rent a room for 2) Don't need cabs, 1/2 block to the indoor ATM at hotel Nutribara, 24 food and a grocery store around the corner, 3 titty-bars & 2 brothels & 2 redlight blocks within 3 blocks, WiFi sometimes in the room, always in lobby, walk in shower with hot water, clean beds, mini fridge, 42 flat-screen, not very good AC but windows open, ask for a fan, get a high floor on the west side of the building. Also a plus that the airport buses are parked in that block so $3 ride to your hotel.

[URL]https://www.hotels.com/ho347881/?q-check-out=2017-12-15&FPQ=1&q-check-in=2017-12-14&WOE=5&WOD=4&q-room-0-children=0&tab=description&JHR=1&q-room-0-adults=2&YGF=14&MGT=1&ZSX=0&SYE=3[/URL]

You don't need Spanish to stay in Centro any more than you need it to make facebook dates. What you do need in Centro is common sense and some familiarity with urban environments. If you have one or both of those and you take reasonable precautions, you will be fine. As for hotels, there are several that cater to an international clientele and have English speaking staff. The Nutibara is one of the better known properties. Check Tripadvisor etc. For others.

I should warn you that if you stay in Centro you will not get to spend as much time with other gringos as you will if you stay in Poblado. Pick your poison, LOL!

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2104731]1. Unless you speak spanish I would say stick to the advice. It will be more enjoyable and for your safety. Don't let your first trip be a bust and get hurt. Worse, be that idiot gringo that got killed.

2. See response #1.

3. Yes FB is an excellent way. First find some names listed in previous reports. Then request to be friended. If she does, you now opened the door to her and her friends.

Enjoy. Don't be "That Gringo" in MDE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2104628]Hello all,

I'm planning my first trip to MDE and I'm looking for some advice. Note that I speak zero Spanish but I can learn some phrases before going. Anyways, after reading the forum, I've a few q's.

1. a lot of people advise staying in Poblado, specifically near Lleras Park for the first time. I saw that most casas and strip clubs are somewhat far away. Is this because of Mansion, the SGs, and safety?

2. if I want to stay near the casa area, is there a recommended mid-range hotel?

3. I hear a lot about using Facebook. I tried Googling prepagos Medellin in FB without any meaningful results, which was kind of expected. How does this work?

Hope to report back. I've only reported in Asia thus far and this would be my first Latin American country.[/QUOTE]You don't need Spanish, as long as you're willing to have a minimal experience with frequent frustration. The easy solution is to stay at The Mansion. Lack of Spanish won't be as noticeable.

1. Poblado, especially Parque Lleras, is where you'll find the most gringos. I live in Poblado and spend a lot of time in Parque Lleras. It's a safe area with plenty of entertainment options, although mongering options are somewhat limited.

2. What do you consider a midrange hotel? Midrange cost is about $30. Midrange quality is 3 stars. However, $30 in El Centro doesn't necessarily mean 3 star quality.

3. There are a few posts detailing how to get started on FB. There are pluses and minuses. As with everything, YMMV and lack of any Spanish will limit your enjoyment.

Here is an example regarding knowing some Spanish.

My Spanish is poor but improving. The hardest part is hearing what others are saying. It can be very frustrating for both parties.

This morning I met up with a very sweet Venezuelana, in my opinion a solid 9. She's educated, but knows very little English. Definitely not enough for any type of conversation. We talked, hung out, listened to music then had an unrushed, very good session. By the time she left, over 4 hours had passed.

Without Spanish, we would have spent maybe an hour and the price would have been the same. Now there are some guys who figure 4 hours should mean 4 different chicas. For me, I prefer a more complete experience.

For those who have been, would you please describe the costs associated with taking a trip out to Guatape. Please include any recreational expenses (boat rental, jet ski rental, etc), transportation to / from, food on site, etc etc. I'm also interested to know of any lodging options in the area as well as private spots to get a bang or BJ in!

Thanks in advance.

Disagree with you and agree with Sbeach. Centro, except casas, is not a place for non-Spanish speaker. Non-speakers just do not see the dangers, tricks and problems.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2104774]You don't need Spanish to stay in Centro any more than you need it to make facebook dates. What you do need in Centro is common sense and some familiarity with urban environments. If you have one or both of those and you take reasonable precautions, you will be fine. As for hotels, there are several that cater to an international clientele and have English speaking staff. The Nutibara is one of the better known properties. Check Tripadvisor etc. For others.

I should warn you that if you stay in Centro you will not get to spend as much time with other gringos as you will if you stay in Poblado. Pick your poison, LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2104774]You don't need Spanish to stay in Centro any more than you need it to make facebook dates. What you do need in Centro is common sense and some familiarity with urban environments. If you have one or both of those and you take reasonable precautions, you will be fine. As for hotels, there are several that cater to an international clientele and have English speaking staff. The Nutibara is one of the better known properties. Check Tripadvisor etc. For others.

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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2104818]You don't need Spanish, as long as you're willing to have a minimal experience with frequent frustration. The easy solution is to stay at The Mansion. Lack of Spanish won't be as noticeable.
.[/QUOTE]For the non-Spanish speaking guy, inquiring as where to stay on a first time trip; both statements above are true, the second, however, would be more prudent for a first timer.

I always recommend first time friends to the Mansion.

You will meet girls for sure, make some cool gringo contacts, and yes, maybe a couple not so cool as well, LOL.

Easily ignored.

You'll learn the the lay of the land, gain good experience and contacts for future visits.

JjBee gives good practical advice on this board, check out his posts.

Enjoy.

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My Spanish is poor but improving. The hardest part is hearing what others are saying. It can be very frustrating for both parties.[/QUOTE]Right on the money amigo. That is the last piece of the puzzle really, in learning a language.

Comprehending what's being spoken to you on the go, and even more difficult over the phone.

I'm grateful that I decided about 20 years ago to learn and speak Spanish well.

I remember the frustrations of thinking I had a grasp, only to be lost in conversations, LOL.

It's amazing though, through repetition, how your ear and mind will eventually acclimate and how you'll improve and feel at ease with the language.

The benefits of speaking the language are obviously enormous, more than non-speakers can even imagine.

Though hardcore non-speakers will and always profess here that it doesn't detract from their experience, it really does, regardless if one admits it or not.

I agree with you. Spanish speaking or not, he will have no problem in casas. I doubt he will find strip clubs very challenging either since they are just casas with a bar, a stage, and sound system out front.

If he is going to try to pick up girls on the street or in bars and restaurants it could get trickier. Most of my Colombian friends don't do it either. Language of course is not a factor for them but they enjoy the convenience and privacy of casas. I like privacy too, that is why I never send people to gringo centric businesses like the Mansion. Yes, I know the gringo businesses officially respect your privacy. The clientele doesn't always feel it's important.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2104844]Disagree with you and agree with Sbeach. Centro, except casas, is not a place for non-Spanish speaker. Non-speakers just do not see the dangers, tricks and problems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2104982]Right on the money amigo. That is the last piece of the puzzle really, in learning a language.

Comprehending what's being spoken to you on the go, and even more difficult over the phone.

I'm grateful that I decided about 20 years ago to learn and speak Spanish well.

I remember the frustrations of thinking I had a grasp, only to be lost in conversations, LOL.

It's amazing though, through repetition, how your ear and mind will eventually acclimate and how you'll improve and feel at ease with the language.

The benefits of speaking the language are obviously enormous, more than non-speakers can even imagine.

Though hardcore non-speakers will and always profess here that it doesn't detract from their experience, it really does, regardless if one admits it or not.[/QUOTE]I started this hobby many years ago in SF and migrated south. My best spanish was google translator. I maybe had 20 words in my spanish vault most was from ordering TacoBell. So for years I didn't care about taking spanish seriously so I just went with the flow. Sure the first few years in Tijuana was fun as hell but now I know better and thinking back I can see how big of a mistake I made in not learning the language. So I decided to go to MDE for that.

My first trip to MDE. I rented a apartment for a couple of months in San Diego area of MDE. I knew close to nothing and yes those 20 words. My first day was almost a disaster. I didn't know the area, had no ability to communicate with the locals except with my phone. My phone was dying and I needed to get back to my apartment and only had the address on my phone. The cab driver did not know the area and we drove for like 40 minutes trying to find it. Anyways, I enrolled into UPB for a month and it was a waste of money. I learned only how to pronounce the letters and a few words. Again, a waste. Luckily, I was able to connect to some vets like Jonsie and VegasJeff. They helped out tremendously in showing me around when doing casa runs and I was still learning the FB game. Gave me a few pointers on how to lay low. One, don't look like a gringo. Can't say it enough. Since the gringo footprint has grown since my first experience, the locals have some what adjusted but believe me, they think you look stupid. So as time went, I started to pick up some key words and phrases. This helped but I was no where near what I needed. 2 months passed and I maybe increased my Spanish by maybe 15%. Still had the minimal experience I had and still had fun.

Month 3, decided to live in Poblado. Well, this is where I grew exponentially. Enrolled into EAFIT. Dedicated really hard into learning the language. Met many fellow expats. Had a much better experience. Did my casa runs and FB girls. Man, I'm thinking. This is the life.

To make it short, like those that have lived there I would recommend taking taking their advice. I have witnessed many times where gringos stand out and targeted to be robbed. Once down the very same street as New Life. Yep, that is true. Not going into details of that because that is the not the point of this posting and frankly I don't give a S**t. I'm not saying it happens all the time but the chances are greater in central.

Back to the US and going to Tijuana. Wow, my skill improved and now I can talk more with the girls at the bars. You can see they are much more relaxed speaking their native language and it helped with the experience. Same girls I had before I left are now providing better services. Could be I was a regular or not. But a couple now were open to hanging out else where. Go to dance clubs and a nice GFE with them. Yes, some gave it to me for free after that. So I decided I needed to learn more Spanish and on my second trip, I went for 5 months. Absorbed as much as possible and yes my game is better.

If you want a less frustration, go stay in Poblado. If you like a challenge and can deal with it and think you are getting a great experience. Well you are not. Not without the language and the lay of the land and culture. Go stay in Central. The choice is yours. If you want to keep having to walk around with your guard up at a high level by all means go to central. But if you want to keep your guard up low and relax a little more, go to poblado. Enjoying a vacation is about relaxing and enjoying the environment. If you enjoy the challenges on what ever level you prefer by all means the final decision is yours.

This agree, disagree yeah its good that others chime in on the experience. The question comes down to what type of experience you would want on this first experience.

Thanks for your perspective.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2105044]I started this hobby many years ago in SF and migrated south. My best spanish was google translator. I maybe had 20 words in my spanish vault most was from ordering TacoBell. So for years I didn't care about taking spanish seriously so I just went with the flow. Sure the first few years in Tijuana was fun as hell but now I know better and thinking back I can see how big of a mistake I made in not learning the language. So I decided to go to MDE for that.

My first trip to MDE. I rented a apartment for a couple of months in San Diego area of MDE. I knew close to nothing and yes those 20 words. My first day was almost a disaster. I didn't know the area, had no ability to communicate with the locals except with my phone. My phone was dying and I needed to get back to my apartment and only had the address on my phone. The cab driver did not know the area and we drove for like 40 minutes trying to find it. Anyways, I enrolled into UPB for a month and it was a waste of money. I learned only how to pronounce the letters and a few words. Again, a waste. Luckily, I was able to connect to some vets like Jonsie and VegasJeff. They helped out tremendously in showing me around when doing casa runs and I was still learning the FB game. Gave me a few pointers on how to lay low. One, don't look like a gringo. Can't say it enough. Since the gringo footprint has grown since my first experience, the locals have some what adjusted but believe me, they think you look stupid. So as time went, I started to pick up some key words and phrases. This helped but I was no where near what I needed. 2 months passed and I maybe increased my Spanish by maybe 15%. Still had the minimal experience I had and still had fun.

Month 3, decided to live in Poblado. Well, this is where I grew exponentially. Enrolled into EAFIT. Dedicated really hard into learning the language. Met many fellow expats. Had a much better experience. Did my casa runs and FB girls. Man, I'm thinking. This is the life.

To make it short, like those that have lived there I would recommend taking taking their advice. I have witnessed many times where gringos stand out and targeted to be robbed. Once down the very same street as New Life. Yep, that is true. Not going into details of that because that is the not the point of this posting and frankly I don't give a S**t. I'm not saying it happens all the time but the chances are greater in central.

Back to the US and going to Tijuana. Wow, my skill improved and now I can talk more with the girls at the bars. You can see they are much more relaxed speaking their native language and it helped with the experience. Same girls I had before I left are now providing better services. Could be I was a regular or not. But a couple now were open to hanging out else where. Go to dance clubs and a nice GFE with them. Yes, some gave it to me for free after that. So I decided I needed to learn more Spanish and on my second trip, I went for 5 months. Absorbed as much as possible and yes my game is better.

If you want a less frustration, go stay in Poblado. If you like a challenge and can deal with it and think you are getting a great experience. Well you are not. Not without the language and the lay of the land and culture. Go stay in Central. The choice is yours. If you want to keep having to walk around with your guard up at a high level by all means go to central. But if you want to keep your guard up low and relax a little more, go to poblado. Enjoying a vacation is about relaxing and enjoying the environment. If you enjoy the challenges on what ever level you prefer by all means the final decision is yours.

This agree, disagree yeah its good that others chime in on the experience. The question comes down to what type of experience you would want on this first experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2104830]For those who have been, would you please describe the costs associated with taking a trip out to Guatape. Please include any recreational expenses (boat rental, jet ski rental, etc), transportation to / from, food on site, etc etc. I'm also interested to know of any lodging options in the area as well as private spots to get a bang or BJ in!

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The cheap option is the bus from the north bus terminal, about 12,000 pesos or 4 US dollars each way, plus the metro fare or cab to the bus terminal. The trip takes about 90 minutes on the bus. You can just hire a car, Vico Zul for example, which might cost $100 US for the day or so. Boat tours on the reservoir are also inexpensive, as are horseback rides and other activities. The lakefront is lined with restaurants. The piedra del peñol is on the way, perhaps 10 km? Before Guatape. There are several nice hotels around the town and on the waterfront. You can find them on any of the hotel booking sites. Hotel Verony is quite nice with a big pool and outdoor jacuzzi. The Hotel Charlee has a luxury property if you want to spoil yourself and your companion. There are no casas or clubs. It is a very small town so bring your date from Medellin. For more see [URL]https://wikitravel.org/en/Guatape[/URL].

[QUOTE=Balboa;2104982]Though hardcore non-speakers will and always profess here that it doesn't detract from their experience, it really does, regardless if one admits it or not.[/QUOTE]Yep. But they may actually have experiences in Spanish-speaking countries that are so much better than their previous experiences that they can't see how it could get any better.

It does. Learning Spanish from point zero costs a lot, in terms of effort, but then it just pays and pays and pays. For those who are getting to an intermediate level, I recommend a couple of things. First, go someplace for a couple of months and don't hang out with gringos. Second, buy the newspaper every day and see how far you can get through it. Make the buying process an interactive exchange with your neighborhood newspaper vendor, who probably needs the extra two cents your newspaper purchase brings him or her (but usually him for whatever reason). Reading the paper also puts you into the loop of current events, which gives you Spanish conversation topics. Third, listen to Spanish radio and TV exclusively. Fourth, try to let the Spanish wash over you instead of translating everything in your mind.

I knew I was getting close when I started having dreams in Spanish.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2105044] You can see they are much more relaxed speaking their native language and it helped with the experience.[/QUOTE]This, and exactly this.

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;2105098]The cheap option is the bus from the north bus terminal, about 12,000 pesos or 4 US dollars each way, plus the metro fare or cab to the bus terminal. The trip takes about 90 minutes on the bus. You can just hire a car, Vico Zul for example, which might cost $100 US for the day or so. Boat tours on the reservoir are also inexpensive, as are horseback rides and other activities. The lakefront is lined with restaurants. The piedra del peol is on the way, perhaps 10 km? Before Guatape. There are several nice hotels around the town and on the waterfront. You can find them on any of the hotel booking sites. Hotel Verony is quite nice with a big pool and outdoor jacuzzi. The Hotel Charlee has a luxury property if you want to spoil yourself and your companion. There are no casas or clubs. It is a very small town so bring your date from Medellin. For more see [URL]https://wikitravel.org/en/Guatape[/URL].[/QUOTE]Great info! Thank you.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2104844]Disagree with you and agree with Sbeach. Centro, except casas, is not a place for non-Spanish speaker. Non-speakers just do not see the dangers, tricks and problems.[/QUOTE]Again, don't be that guy. It amazes me the gringo mentality because we are not aware of our surroundings. No matter where I walk, I was do the 360 degree scope. Look behind you every few steps and make eye contact if a guy is looking at you acknowledge them. This incident happened in broad daylight and I bet he was already marked so it was just a matter of time. They were already hunting and saw the target. Happens all the time.

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Bought my ticket for Medellin and ready for the plunge. Given there is not much to do in Medellin I intend to take two day trips-one to Laguna de Guatape and the other to Leticia to see the Amazon river.

I would imagine that a town like Leticia that is right on the border of several countries has some mongering activities avaliable. Anyone have an experiences or info to share about Leticia?

Showdown.

Hi,

I'll be going to Medellin next week and have been reading some stories about issues with getting robbed by knife / gun point. I definitely want to enjoy myself out there but definitely don't want any issues.

From your personal experience, how is Medellin in terms of safety?

Should I bring my cell phone out with me? A part of me feels like if I leave it at the apartment and god forbid someone tries to rob me, if I say I don't have a phone on me they will think I'm lying to them.

Should I just bring out my license and a debit / credit card only? Or just bring out cash?

Any other tips I should follow to try to be as safe as possible?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Showdown;2105514]Bought my ticket for Medellin and ready for the plunge. Given there is not much to do in Medellin I intend to take two day trips-one to Laguna de Guatape and the other to Leticia to see the Amazon river.

I would imagine that a town like Leticia that is right on the border of several countries has some mongering activities avaliable. Anyone have an experiences or info to share about Leticia?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]Ja ja. First place I ever had South American pussy, in 1977. I don't remember the exchange rate at the time but the cost was about three dollars. Two local guys took me down this path into the jungle and I figured I would be robbed, shot, and left for dead. Nah. We went a few hundred meters and reached a clearing where there were four bar / wh at rehouses in a square pattern. Reminded me of one of the towns in Nevada, I think Winnemucca or maybe Elko, that had the same square pattern with four houses. The woman and I (I was a mere lad at the time) went out the back door of the place and I was thinking they had rooms back there. No. We walked about twenty meters into the darkness and she threw a blanket down on the ground y punto.

Then the two guys introduced me to a big fat dude with a whole lot of gold jewelry who sold me so much fucking weed for like five dollars, I couldn't come close to smoking it all so I gave it to the guy who took me to the airport. Turns out the guy who sold me the dope was head of customs for the whole region or province (department? I forget what they call them in Colombia) and he pulled my sister and me out of the huge line on the sweltering tarmac and we shot the shit in his little shaded palapa until it was time to board. Sister was like what the fuck was that and I just said it was a long story.

I imagine one or two things may have changed in forty years but I would bet several thousand colombian pesos that you can still find pussy there!

[QUOTE=DennisDucati;2105528]
Should I bring my cell phone out with me? A part of me feels like if I leave it at the apartment and god forbid someone tries to rob me, if I say I don't have a phone on me they will think I'm lying to them.

Should I just bring out my license and a debit / credit card only? Or just bring out cash?[/QUOTE]That's a good point about the phone. Why don't you leave your good phone in the hotel and carry some old piece of shit as a decoy?

Your license isn't worth anything in Colombia. What you want to do as soon as you get there is get a photocopy on one single page where one side shows the declaration page of your passport and the other said shows the visa stamp when you entered the country. Different people are going to tell you different things about credit cards but I don't use them in bars or *****houses anywhere in the world. I might use one in a big chain grocery store or something. And you definitely don't want to go out at night with a debit card, where crooks could take you to an ATM at gunpoint and make you withdraw as much as possible.

[QUOTE=DennisDucati;2105528]Hi,

I'll be going to Medellin next week and have been reading some stories about issues with getting robbed by knife / gun point. I definitely want to enjoy myself out there but definitely don't want any issues.

From your personal experience, how is Medellin in terms of safety?

Should I bring my cell phone out with me? A part of me feels like if I leave it at the apartment and god forbid someone tries to rob me, if I say I don't have a phone on me they will think I'm lying to them.

Should I just bring out my license and a debit / credit card only? Or just bring out cash?

Any other tips I should follow to try to be as safe as possible?

Thank you![/QUOTE]Your safety in Medellin depends on you. Over the past 7 months I've walked about 900 miles, most of it in Medellin. I haven't had anything close to a problem. I am almost always carrying at least 300 k pesos, a good phone and my debit card. I may also be carrying my laptop. Most of the miles are in Poblado, since I live and work here, although I do frequent walk through in Mayorista.

If I'm going to El Centro, I will leave the laptop at home and carry less cash.

In my opinion, nobody has bothered me because I don't look like a target. I'm not gawking, looking at my phone and trying to figure out where I'm going. I don't look confused or lost. I look like I know exactly what I'm doing and where I'm going.

Most of the thieves are looking for a quick, easy score. If you're already confused, they know you're an easy target. If you're drunk or distracted, you're an easy target. They know you won't take any decisive action. You'll hand over everything before you realize what's happening.

My advice, don't walk around areas you're not familiar with, especially at night. The exception is Parque Lleras. Take a taxi to the door, if you're going to a club or casa. Split your cash. Don't keep it all in one pocket. If you must use your phone, do it on a busy street, step out of the flow and put your back to the wall. Keep aware of people around you.

If you keep your wits about you and be smart the risk goes way down.

Buy a cheap phone either in the USA Or Colombia.

[QUOTE=DennisDucati;2105528]Hi,

I'll be going to Medellin next week and have been reading some stories about issues with getting robbed by knife / gun point. I definitely want to enjoy myself out there but definitely don't want any issues.

From your personal experience, how is Medellin in terms of safety?

Should I bring my cell phone out with me? A part of me feels like if I leave it at the apartment and god forbid someone tries to rob me, if I say I don't have a phone on me they will think I'm lying to them.

Should I just bring out my license and a debit / credit card only? Or just bring out cash?

Any other tips I should follow to try to be as safe as possible?

Thank you![/QUOTE]

I actually carry my driver's license with me as a form of foto ID when I use my credit card. Some places are not thrilled with a photocopy of my passport, but I've never had any restaurant or store have a problem with my driver's license as a form of ID to support that the credit card is mine.

The copy of your passport should include the stamp. That said, I've never bothered with it and never had a problem. I guess there is always a first time. I have been stopped by the cops on three occasions, but they never were worried about me. Rather they carded and searched the putas that were with me in the taxi.

Finally, I do carry a debit card when I go out (just in case I run out of cash). However, I have a separate bank account in which I only keep 600 mil or less. So if the card ever got stolen or I was forced to use it, I would lose no more than $200. That said, I have never had anything stolen from me and have never been held up/robbed. Again, there is always a first time. But I've had great luck in Colombia for over 11 years and probably 100 trips.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2105553]That's a good point about the phone. Why don't you leave your good phone in the hotel and carry some old piece of shit as a decoy?

Your license isn't worth anything in Colombia. What you want to do as soon as you get there is get a photocopy on one single page where one side shows the declaration page of your passport and the other said shows the visa stamp when you entered the country. Different people are going to tell you different things about credit cards but I don't use them in bars or *****houses anywhere in the world. I might use one in a big chain grocery store or something. And you definitely don't want to go out at night with a debit card, where crooks could take you to an ATM at gunpoint and make you withdraw as much as possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Showdown;2105514]Bought my ticket for Medellin and ready for the plunge. Given there is not much to do in Medellin I intend to take two day trips-one to Laguna de Guatape and the other to Leticia to see the Amazon river.

I would imagine that a town like Leticia that is right on the border of several countries has some mongering activities avaliable. Anyone have an experiences or info to share about Leticia?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]For Leticia, bring you mosquito repellant.

I stand corrected in that I forgot the value of a driver's license for when you need to use a credit card, because of course I do not recommend using credit cards. I rather suspect you could use any laminated expired ID with a credit card as well because they usually don't even know what the hell ID you are handing them. I have an expired food handler's card with my picture that I use in the grocery store here in Central América on the rare occasions I use my credit card.

I don't know how many of you guys have tried to get a new driver's license from scratch in the states recently but it ain't easy and so I would not be wanting to carry my driver's license around and do not. I have the passport card and would recommend that as an alternative.

As an aside, I was once able to rent a car in Chile with a driver's license that had been expired for a couple of months because of the whole thing about day / month / year versus the stupid US system of month / day / year for birthdates and expiration dates.

Just to give a general heads' up, losing or replacing your driver's license is way way WAY more hassle than it used to be. You are not going to walk out of the DMV with a new license. They are going to want to mail it to you to prove you live where you say you do. You have to verify your citizenship and your Social Security number and your address and it is a genuine fucking pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=Combo;2105614]For Leticia, bring you mosquito repellant.[/QUOTE]Oh fuck. Bring repellent and a big ass machete. They have mosquitos there the size of barn owls. And snakes. A lot of the hotels had pet snakes. It's possible I am wrong after 40 years but I am pretty sure the name of my hotel was El Parador Ticuña. They had these trained parrots that smoked cigarettes and did shots. In Leticia, at least back then, there were houses set on posts by the river. The houses had two stories and during the dry season both stories were usable and then in the wet season when the river rose, everything went up to the top level.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2105617]Oh fuck. Bring repellent and a big ass machete. They have mosquitos there the size of barn owls. And snakes. A lot of the hotels had pet snakes. It's possible I am wrong after 40 years but I am pretty sure the name of my hotel was El Parador Ticua. They had these trained parrots that smoked cigarettes and did shots. In Leticia, at least back then, there were houses set on posts by the river. The houses had two stories and during the dry season both stories were usable and then in the wet season when the river rose, everything went up to the top level.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Leticia. But I have been to Iquitos across the border in Peru. Same deal there. Everything revolves around the wet and dry seasons.

Yes, Iquitos and Leticia have many similarities, including a lot of pussy. It has been 40 years since I was in Leticia and almost twenty since I was in Iquitos, but I will say I really enjoyed Leticia and I fucking hated Iquitos. But in general I don't like Perú very much so that could be part of it. The forum has quite a bit of information on Iquitos, which is a considerably larger town.

Just returned from Medellin. TSA dude asked me why I keep on returning to Colombia. Also asked whether I have seen more than one woman. Also insinuated that I might be seeing minors? I was like NO. I don't date minors. I just like to go there because I like their culture. How do you fellow mongers handle these kind of the questions?

[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2105692]Just returned from Medellin. TSA dude asked me why I keep on returning to Colombia. Also asked whether I have seen more than one woman. Also insinuated that I might be seeing minors? I was like NO. I don't date minors. I just like to go there because I like their culture. How do you fellow mongers handle these kind of the questions?[/QUOTE]TSA? TSA is security and only concerned about what you are carrying in your bag and on your person, not what you were doing in another location. As a matter of fact, if you are not making a connecting flight once you land in the USA, you will not even see TSA. And if you do see TSA, there is no way they would have known you keep returning to Colombia, because all they see is the ticket you show them for your next flight along with your ID. So maybe you meant it was immigration.

What do you mean how do you handle the questions? You answer them honestly. It is not like you have been doing anything wrong (unless you have.) You most definitely do not want to get caught in a lie though. Immigration stopped a friend of mine leaving the USA. When he told them he was going to see his girlfriend in Thailand, they made him call her. So if you really don't have a girlfriend there don't fuck yourself over trying to be slick.

And what do you mean by insinuated? Either they asked or they didn't. Whenever I cross back over from Tijuana and they ask what I was doing there I say fucking hookers. Then they ask if I am bringing anything back. And I say I sure hope not. Then they say welcome back.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105713] Whenever I cross back over from Tijuana and they ask what I was doing there I say fucking hookers. [/QUOTE]If this is a joke you probably should have changed the wording to make it more obviously humor. If it is not, my advice to fellow mongers is not to follow this, seriously; it will end up bad for you especially if the agent is a woman or worse a Latina woman. If you are black it could end up being your worse nightmare.

[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2105692]Just returned from Medellin. TSA dude asked me why I keep on returning to Colombia. Also asked whether I have seen more than one woman. Also insinuated that I might be seeing minors? I was like NO. I don't date minors. I just like to go there because I like their culture. How do you fellow mongers handle these kind of the questions?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are confusing TSA with US customs / Immigration.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105713]...And what do you mean by insinuated? Either they asked or they didn't...[/QUOTE]I can see how they would insinuate. PickCherry12 said they asked him about seeing more than one woman. If the agent then said something like "Some men go there to see minors". To me, that would be insinuating he may be going there to see minors.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2105727]If this is a joke you probably should have changed the wording to make it more obviously humor. If it is not, my advice to fellow mongers is not to follow this, seriously; it will end up bad for you especially if the agent is a woman or worse a Latina woman. If you are black it could end up being your worse nightmare.[/QUOTE]It is not a joke and uhhh. I am Black. So what could happen to you if you are not doing anything illegal? Like I said, your worst nightmare is going to come if you are caught lying, not if you are telling the truth about something that is not illegal. So you would advise someone to risk getting caught in a lie instead? Because when you say you have a girlfriend and you do not have anyone to call that is going to say they are your girlfriend and give matching details on your relationship, that is going to turn into your worst nightmare.

Why do you think an immigration agent cares if you are fucking hookers? The only way they will give a shit is if they are under 18. They care if you are bringing shit back into the country that you should not, and if you have been involved in any illegal activity. Otherwise there is nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2105692]Just returned from Medellin. TSA dude asked me why I keep on returning to Colombia. Also asked whether I have seen more than one woman. Also insinuated that I might be seeing minors? I was like NO. I don't date minors. I just like to go there because I like their culture. How do you fellow mongers handle these kind of the questions?[/QUOTE]That's funny because when I went to Medellin this weekend, the guy checking my ticket and passport in the my city asked me why I was going there. I told him because it's nice and it's cheap. Then he said him and his wife stayed there for a bit, and in a suspicious tone he said just tell me the truth. Haha yeah right I'm not going to tell him I'm going to bang hookers. He probably met his wife there and she was a hooker.

I didn't do a very good job with my 1st trip reports, were in several sections and not very detailed. So I went back and re-wrote my 3 trip reports from this year so some of this will be familiar from earlier.

MED trip 1.

Feb 2017-My 1st trip to Colombia.

Last minute decision, was going to take my local US sugar baby to Puerto Rico (she could go there without a passport) and stay in old San Juan. She got sketchy about responding to txts or keeping dates so I thought where could I go myself that might be more fun?

Online research lead me to Colombia as a cheap and short flight and a great exchange rate with very pretty women. Due to alt, Bogota to high, Cartagena too low (and I don't like Cruise ports) I picked Medellin. Read the last 500 pages of this thread, IE ISG: MED Trip Reports. Some so I'd know where to go and what to pay and the rest looking for how things went wrong on trips, ie-ripped off / robbed / killed etc. I mapped all my foot routes to some Casa's, strip clubs & redlight blocks on Google StreetView. Picked busier roads with more foot traffic. Picked out some nice restaurants on Trip Advisor and made some dates on SeekingArrangements since I was already a member.

I had lived in Central America for 5 years and am fluent in Spanish and have lived in some scary parts of Wash DC and been to central Asia & and Africa so I have experience in large dangerous cities, foreign & domestic.

Flew American Airlines $470 RT out of Tampa via Miami. 3-1/2 HR flight, same time zone which is nice. Got Colombian currency online from Bank of America before I went.

Took the 9 kcop airport bus to Hotel Botero, Cra. 50 a #53-45.

[URL]https://www.hotels.com/ho347881/?q-check-out=2017-12-15&FPQ=1&q-check-in=2017-12-14&WOE=5&WOD=4&q-room-0-children=0&tab=description&JHR=1&q-room-0-adults=2&YGF=14&MGT=1&ZSX=0&SYE=3[/URL]

Right behind the Hotel Nutribara and where the buses to the airport park. 15 story-$26 a night, hot water, walk in showers, great views of the mountains from the upper floors, 1/2 block to the ATM in Hotel Nutribara, 24 HR restaurant and grocery store around the corner, WiFi sometimes in the room, always in lobby, hot water, clean beds, mini fridge, 42 flat-screen, the A/C sucks, I doubt there's any Freon in the units but both windows open, ask for a fan, ask for mini-fridge, get a high floor on the west side of the building (opposite the side you come in the lobby on). It's in El Centro (aka La Candelaria) which my research indicated was the somewhat unsafe downtown area, the center of Casa's and strip clubs and redlight blocks. The hotel is across the street from the Casa Yakuza that stays open as late as 4 am, around the corner from Chicas Punta on Calle 54 and about a block & 1/2 to 3 strip clubs, Maracaibo, Barre Ejectiva and Conejitas, all lower price local's joints. And 2 redlight blocks, one behind Igesia VeraCruz, one in the Raudal area. Put strip club Fase-II on the lists of places to go check out cause I don't mind enhanced women and looked like they had some super hot ones.

[URL]http://www.clubfasedos.com/[/URL]

For letting me know what to expect I found this video on this page useful, a 30 min guide to MED adult entertainment:

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL]

The vid is a few years old so the prices are cheaper now as the peso has dropped.

1st day: Fri, did a Yakuza girl for 40 k right after I got to the hotel from the airport as it was right across the street, was sort of depressing given how horrible the room was, sort of a mattress on a plywood board with a strong una-bomber shack vibe. I know it's a lower end Casa but it was raining and across the street. They showed me like 4 girls, picked the one with big naturals, she was fun enough but we were 1 sheet of plywood away from all the locals sitting in the main room which I did not enjoy, found later they do free takeout to close by hotels. (Botero at least).

Fri night, meet a hot instagram loving redhead off Seeking Arrangements, named Sofi.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/131ebffb-d546-44dc-7b59-427b58c74f93[/URL]

For 300,000 TLN (all night), looks exactly like her pics, took her to dinner at Botanko Bistro (next to Casa New Life) Calle 56 #43 - 43-Hours: Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm, thumbs up.

The we went to love hotel Eros, CL. 54 #54-31.

[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-eros-medellin/[/URL]

Room with Jacuzzi and steam room for 4 hrs, 50,000 cop, then back to my hotel for more fun, then more in morning before she left, GFE, was worth it. (was on about 3 hrs sleep from the early trip to the airport though).

I LOVE Centro, so vibrant and full of life and people in the day, we did do a 2 am run in a taxi to score some weed for her, WOW, cross between Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas and Dawn of the Dead, some scary areas that time of night. The taxi driver just slowed down for red lights.

Sat, Centro walk around the church redlight block, Iglesia de la Veracruz, picked a cute little spinner, turned out to have the wrong chromosomes, let her go, we had already gotten to the room, I didn't ask for the 30 k back, didn't want any issues over $10, not in that part of town.

Lesson learned, check more carefully.

Walked over to Calle 53/ Carrera 54, Raudal No 3 area, more mature set of chicks on avg, but too many locals standing around drinking so I took off and went in Conejitas Show Bar, CL. 53 #51-41 across from Botero Park. I liked it, about 60 girls working (Sat night) with the top 5+ being Doll House quality I though, made a date with one of them for tomorrow as I had my 2nd SA date coming up Sat night, offered her 150,000 to come to my hotel, kinda of rough local crowd but I had no problems, some drunk dudes at a nearby table even bought me a shot. I thought "I've been wanting to try some Scopolamine!" (also known as Burundanga) but turning down some drunk guys didn't seem like a good idea either so I did the shot. My plan was if I started to feel weird to run the block and a half to my hotel and lock myself in my room. But no problems.

[URL]http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2009/10/scopolamine-in-colombia/[/URL]

2nd SA date, Sat night- Malejaea, 21 yo.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/94f82ce7-65dd-454d-8f62-385ebbdf9eb3[/URL]

300 k TLN, a little thick but not fat, nice bolts on's, but what a party girl. Showed up in a uber, I hopped in and we went to La Hacienda for dinner, I picked it off trip advisor, does traditional Colombian in a nice setting, upstairs with balcony overlooking Calle 49 Junin walking street. Then she wants to go her best friends bar, El Bar de Mao's, that was across from Parque de Boston, quite a lively place on Sat night with jugglers and food vendors and games and unfortunately temp tattoo artists, she wanted one for both of us and picked out a large black panther for me. I did tell her to order what she wanted which turned out to be a bottle of Absolute, beers, sodas mixers, redbull mixers, about 120,000 cop. She didn't want to leave, then she scored a g of powder for 9 k, then wanted to go dancing, I said I did not, then she really wanted to go to some house party, I really didn't want to do that, no thanks, finally said around midnight I was getting a taxi to my hotel and she was welcome to come. She hopped in, was fun in bed when she wasn't hopping out every 3 min's to put some Youtube song on she liked. Once we were there though she started sneezing bad and it got worse, obviously very allergic to something, gave a her a benadryl, not sure it helped as she got worse, started getting red on her chest etc so I sent her home, she was not as fun in bed, no kissing, no DATY, but I enjoyed the dinner and the local bar so it was a fun night all together.

Sunday:

2nd attempt at street corner girl in Centro, did another walk around the Iglesia De La Veracruz block around 2 pm Sunday. Saw a little spinner beboping on the corner with some other girlies drinking a beer, talked to her, told her what happened the day before, assured me she was female, asked if she has ID, said she was 20 yo, showed me her ID ("cedula" 30 k cop, up the stairs to a OK love shack, clean, bathroom, shower, she was about 90 lbs of tight fun, tipped her 20 k cause she was so cute, a OK nooner before I go back to Conejitas Show Bar although I expect less quality on a Sun night vs last night. The hottie from Conejitas never called, wish I had offered her more money now as she was stunning.

2nd trip to Conejitas. Sunday night.

Went looking for the girl I saw on Sat, went 9:30 ish. Not there, about 15 girls and 12 customers, through 3 of the girls were hot, one super hot to me, the typical beautiful long straight black hair, banging body, nice big bolt ONS, flat stomach, pretty face, good attitude, 21 yo Tanya. Wasn't in the mood for bartering, paid 50 k to the Club for takeout and offered her 300 k for all night, ended up keeping her almost till I left, we just got along so well and she was so GFE, took her shopping the next day, my idea, walked all around the shopping districts in Centro, bought her some clothes and purses etc, we eat out and had fun, then she left Monday night 11 ish, soon as her cab turned the corner I hit Maricibo and Barre Executive, Maribaibo sucked but about 12 girls at BarreEj, 3 hotties, the 2 hottest younger ones sitting at tables with guys, so I took choice #3, a 33 yo human analog Jessica Rabbit "Carla"with a semi-oriental look to her face and a banging body with some great bolt-ONS. Gave her 240,000 for takeout includ club fee to my hotel, we drank, danced, smoked (she had) and had great fun. She was also good in bed and would see her again. Let her go around 2 am. (don't ask for her number, she was murdered last month).

Had a flight out at 2 pm Tues so got up at 7 am, showered packed, breakfast then around Veracruz church, girls already out at 8 am, nobody I liked till 10, picked another 20 yo spinner, 30 k, gave her 50 k, showered in the room she got us after, grabbed my bags from the hotel, took the bus to the airport at 11 am-both my rides on the bus were in the 1 HR 15 min range so take that into account, also the American Airlines line was 45 min long, and then they pulled me out of line for the backroom X-ray cavity search, made my plane with like 2 minutes to spare.

In conclusion had fun on both my SA dates, great sex on one, ok on the other, got great GFE from the Conejita girl and enjoyed myself more then the 30 k hookups but I like the longer dates more then the wham-bam-thankyou-Ma'am.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2105729]Sounds like you are confusing TSA with US customs / Immigration.[/QUOTE]Yes you're right, it was a US customs / Immigration officer. Didn't know the difference up until now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105713]And what do you mean by insinuated? Either they asked or they didn't. Whenever I cross back over from Tijuana and they ask what I was doing there I say fucking hookers. Then they ask if I am bringing anything back. And I say I sure hope not. Then they say welcome back.[/QUOTE]The way he was asking me his questions it was like suggesting that I went there to meet minors. He said you probably broke Colombian laws. I was like what laws, I don't know what you're talking about. I told him that if I had broken any laws the Colombian police would have arrested me. He was like how would they know? I was like that's exactly what I mean. I go there to have a good time like dancing salsa etc. He was like you can dance salsa right here in America. I was like I like it there because clubs close late and it's a different ambiance. He was like no, it's go to be about the women. I was like not really, but if I come across to an attractive one of course I would consider that. He also wanted to know the names of the hotel that I had stayed in over the last few trips. In short I didn't lie about anything. So you are suggesting telling them that you were there to fuck hookers?

I have been going to Colombia for over 11 years and over the past 3 years, I have been at least once a month. I can think of maybe two times that I was ever asked. The first time I said I had so many stamps because my ex-wife is from Colombia, which is true. The second time I simply said I had a girlfriend. Not really true per se, but my favorita is close enough. I could also honestly say that I like the climate and the people and the weather. I have never been asked a follow up question and pretty much always glide through immigration/customs with my global entry.

[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2105692]Just returned from Medellin. TSA dude asked me why I keep on returning to Colombia. Also asked whether I have seen more than one woman. Also insinuated that I might be seeing minors? I was like NO. I don't date minors. I just like to go there because I like their culture. How do you fellow mongers handle these kind of the questions?[/QUOTE]

MED Trip 2.

June 2017.

Fri.

This time I drove to Miami and took VivaColombia Airlines, $220 RT, $6 a day parking near airport.

[URL]https://www.vivacolombia.co/en-co[/URL]

Had a wingman this time off the USSG, we took the $3 bus to Hotel Botero from airport.

Fri night, me & wingman (SandStorm) walked to Barre Ejectiva around 8 ish from Hotel Botero, 20+ girls with more arriving every minute, mostly 6 & 7's, a few 8's.

Picked a Venezuelan girl, nice bod, typical long black hair, banging bod, 90 k, had only done take out there before. Was weird to follow her into the men's room, into a stall, through the little hatch then up the spiral. Room was way to dark and way to hot for my taste.

We were just waiting till Fase II got busy anyway. Cab there, 10 pm, 20+ girls, 5 dudes, all cute girls, lots of 8's a few 9's. By 11-12 ish I counted 60 girls and a full house of dudes, picked a tall hot blond surfer-barbie type, Allison I think she was smoking hot, enhanced tits, everything else seemed stock, rooms were much nicer and cooler. 1st time trying out the Kimono extra thin condoms. Dam thing broke, I mean shredded like a blow out, we didn't notice till after. Ouch, she was NOT happy, ran for bathroom and a douche, tipped her heavy on her request / demand (they were my condoms that broke so I felt bad) Got her number, she was a Goddess with her clothes off, not the over done butt job type either, I think just a smoking hot breast job.

I was very impressed with their lineup, there was a easy dozen there I was dying to try, had target saturation for awhile. Didn't see any I wouldn't do either, not a fat chick in the house. And all types from 100% natural to 100% plastic barbies. Will repeat, cost more but worth it I thought.

10 k at the door, 190 k for the girl, SandStorm bless his heart got the bar tab which I assume was big, we had a small bottle Aquardiente and the girls drinks.

And about $66 for a 9+ hottie was fine by me.

Sat.

Hit the redlight blocks in Centro Sat morning, I found a cute spinner for 30 k in the VeraCruz block and Sandstorm found a bodacious one for 40 k in the Raudal block, he said she was up for anything.

Sat night my sweetie from Conejitas Tanya that I met last time came over at 6, we took SandStorm over to her club around 8 to hook him up for TLN, we got the All Star treatment with her.

40+ girls working, top 5 Doll House material, he had her call several over for interviews. Picked a good one, sweet and super hot, 300 k TLN GFE, plus 50 k fine to leave club, we went to Parque Boston for drinks, food & temp tattoos. (now a tradition. LOL).

Back to hotel drunk as Lords for fun.

Sunday.

We took both girls up the Metro cable car to Parque Arvi, rented boars on the lakes etc. Go back to my hotel, my girl crashs, Sandstorms girlie had to jet.

So my girl was still passed out in my room Sunday night.

So I twisted SandStorms arm to go a block to Barre Exectiva again, 11 ish.

Maybe 15-20 girls on, top 5 all super doable, had to pick between a 18 yo spinner who was super cute and a silicone Goddess, Sara, went with her, 80,000 p on site she was a tiger in bed and lots of enthusiasm. Got her #, may meet tomorrow night after my honey goes home.

Next I have to sneak back to bed.

Monday.

My girl finally woke, cafe con leche & some breakfast at Brase Pan, went shopping, bought her some luggage, she's going to St Martin to work for the summer.

Then we went through the Palacio de la Cultura Rafael Uribe Uribe, free and good photo ops for the hottie who loves having her picture taken.

Back to the hotel, beer on the roof top bar, more bedroom fun, then she jetted around 2. Hit the VeraCruz block, nothing I liked for 30 k, went to Raudal redlight block, several choices, 3 boppers who wanted 150 k for all three, or 100/2 or 50/1 before bartering, I didn't bargain with them but seemed too young no matter what their ID said, went with a silicone barbie instead, mid 20's, long black hair, real cute face and huge bolt front & back, for $65 k, didn't bargain. Real pretty face.

Named Jimena, stands in doorway to a nicer short term love hotel, just West of Carr 54 on Calle 53, avenida De Greiff, NW corner.

WhatsApp my hottie Sarah from Barre Excetiva last night, figure dinner, drinks then 3 the Suites Love motel for a Jacuzzi.

Afternoon Mon. More redlight fun in Centro:

After the silicone barbie in Raudal, quick shower at hotel, back to Vera Cruz looking for a 18+ spinner to round out the set.

Sarah, said 50,000 but quickly dropped to 30 k and allowed for a pic or two, has black wings tattooed on her back and flowers in her pubic region.

Well that escalated quickly:

Around 8 Mon night I did a BarreEx, Mariciabo, Conejitas run, each had at least one hot one. Maricabo actually had the edge for once, bunch cute 18+ spinner bebopping stoners and one 32 yo silicone Venezuelan. Picked her, named Rachel. Paid her club fee to leave, 60 k I think and gave her 300 k for TLN.

Went well for awhile, has a smoking hot tight body with a super flat stomach and nice bolt ONS. I believe a Bolivian Marching Powder issue there. Loves Pink Floyd. Was super GFE, gave me a scalp massage, a back massage with oil, danced with me, gave me a lap dance, jumped in shower and got going, very fun, "Harder-deeper!" kinda gal.

We take a break 12 ish and that's when it goes sideways. Has no phone or ID. Uses my phone to WhatsApp her daughter, I thought in Venz.

Then she says her 15 yo daughter has no where to stay and she was otw to my hotel. I said no way that was possible, no minor in my room, she can't rent a room for her either because no ID and I said no way I was renting a room for her in my name. I like a low drama vacation and super hot homeless Venez. Chicks and their daughters are not on the list.

And I knew she was the crazy type but sometimes I like that. On super hot ones.

My hottie from the night before Sarah from be. E. WhatsApp'ed me tomorrow was better for her.

Tue.

1st New Life run. Picked a hot spinner in a tight red dress, she gave me a nice back rub and was fun and passionate.

Then a we did a souvenir run on Junin St. Then back to hotel, crazy Venz hottie calls and has left some stuff in my room, come over with the daughter, me and SandStorm take them to lunch then I give both of them my blessing and SS does a session with her (with mom, daughter took off thank god).

I hit the VeraCruz block, not much, leaving for Raudal when my little redlight spinner Sara come up the block, see me and runs and jumps on me while squealing. She looks hotter then the day before and is a real sweetheart, I say lets go to my hotel. I give her 60 k and she proceeds with 4 hrs of mind blowing fun, included about a HR going down on her while she insists I pinch her nips hard and take them in circles, she has the hottest tattoo over her V and wings on her back. The sex was the best of the trip up to this point. I end up giving her 150 k (she didn't ask). She was funny "I want to order food delivered, it's this really great restaurant, have you ever heard of it? Called "Subway". LOL. It was really good. Although she was sparking up a lot.

She has kids, has to be home by 10, so I WhatsUp Sarah one from Barre Exectiva, she says she can be over by 10:30.

She shows up looking hot and puts the other girl to shame, cum during sex, cum during tits fuck, and then a BBBJCIM, 1st of trip, also lots of deep French kissing and DATY. She stayed till about 2 am, I have to get up for the bus at 5 am for airport run, ouch.

Both my best times this this week were with 2 girls on my 2nd time with them.

Sarah was a tiger at Barre Exectiva but was way better the 2nd time at my hotel with unasked for BBBJCIM, deep French etc, and Sara was a normal street girl the 1st time in the short term hotel but the 2nd time at my hotel was 10 x better and 10 x longer and more passionate and demanding I do this or that to her. Yes they got paid more for the 2nd time (but Sara only thought she was getting 60 k, I bumped the amount myself after the 4 hrs) which I am sure helped but I think the no rush atmosphere with music / youtube / drinks / food / smoke helps a lot too.

I bring a laptop and speakers and they love to YouTube some of their fav songs and dance. Vodka and rum in the room helps too. I also brought some gifts this time which seems to help.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2105845]I didn't do a very good job with my 1st trip reports, were in several sections and not very detailed. So I went back and re-wrote my 3 trip reports from this year so some of this will be familiar from earlier.

MED trip 1.

Feb 2017-My 1st trip to Colombia.

Last minute decision, was going to take my local US sugar baby to Puerto Rico (she could go there without a passport) and stay in old San Juan. She got sketchy about responding to txts or keeping dates so I thought where could I go myself that might be more fun?

Online research lead me to Colombia as a cheap and short flight and a great exchange rate with very pretty women. Due to alt, Bogota to high, Cartagena too low (and I don't like Cruise ports) I picked Medellin. Read the last 500 pages of this thread, IE ISG: MED Trip Reports. Some so I'd know where to go and what to pay and the rest looking for how things went wrong on trips, ie-ripped off / robbed / killed etc. I mapped all my foot routes to some Casa's, strip clubs & redlight blocks on Google StreetView. Picked busier roads with more foot traffic. Picked out some nice restaurants on Trip Advisor and made some dates on SeekingArrangements since I was already a member..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report! Good shit.

I think you probably meant Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the officers who perform passport control at US points of entry. These officers can detain you if you are a citizen and deny you entry if you are not a citizen. But only for cause.

Evidence or admission of having violated USA Law, including violations committed outside the USA, constitutes cause. You can answer questions honestly without raising suspicion. The traditionally accepted answers to questions about frequency of travel to certain destinations are:

- business (often followed up with "what do you do for a living".

- visit friends (sometimes followed up with questions about how you met, the friends' name).

- visit family (less frequently followed up with "cousin, in-law etc. ?

The officers focus on gauging your reaction and looking for signs of nervousness, aggression, and / or deception. If you exhibit any, the follow up questions will come. Basically, the more frequent your visits, the more attention the agents pay. For example, a frequent visitor who says his occupation is a minimum wage job will raise all kinds of red flags as a possible drug mule or other shady activity. There has to be some logical explanation for being able to spend hundreds of dollars in airfare. Another suspicious sign would be someone who was away for several weeks but is traveling with only a small backpack. I hope this helps.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2105713]TSA? TSA is security and only concerned about what you are carrying in your bag and on your person, not what you were doing in another location. As a matter of fact, if you are not making a connecting flight once you land in the USA, you will not even see TSA. And if you do see TSA, there is no way they would have known you keep returning to Colombia, because all they see is the ticket you show them for your next flight along with your ID. So maybe you meant it was immigration.

What do you mean how do you handle the questions? You answer them honestly. It is not like you have been doing anything wrong (unless you have.) You most definitely do not want to get caught in a lie though. Immigration stopped a friend of mine leaving the USA. When he told them he was going to see his girlfriend in Thailand, they made him call her. So if you really don't have a girlfriend there don't fuck yourself over trying to be slick.

And what do you mean by insinuated? Either they asked or they didn't. Whenever I cross back over from Tijuana and they ask what I was doing there I say fucking hookers. Then they ask if I am bringing anything back. And I say I sure hope not. Then they say welcome back.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, I see no upside in coming at a person like that who is just doing their job. You never know when someone is having a bad day.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2105727]If this is a joke you probably should have changed the wording to make it more obviously humor. If it is not, my advice to fellow mongers is not to follow this, seriously; it will end up bad for you especially if the agent is a woman or worse a Latina woman. If you are black it could end up being your worse nightmare.[/QUOTE]

Your experience is the norm. I think the very curious ICE guy thought he picked up on something and started probing our brother PickCherry.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2105868]I have been going to Colombia for over 11 years and over the past 3 years, I have been at least once a month. I can think of maybe two times that I was ever asked. The first time I said I had so many stamps because my ex-wife is from Colombia, which is true. The second time I simply said I had a girlfriend. Not really true per se, but my favorita is close enough. I could also honestly say that I like the climate and the people and the weather. I have never been asked a follow up question and pretty much always glide through immigration/customs with my global entry.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Wolf662;2105845]I didn't do a very good job with my 1st trip reports, were in several sections and not very detailed. So I went back and re-wrote my 3 trip reports from this year so some of this will be familiar from earlier.

MED trip 1.

Feb 2017-My 1st trip to Colombia.

Last minute decision, was going to take my local US sugar baby to Puerto Rico (she could go there without a passport) and stay in old San Juan. She got sketchy about responding to txts or keeping dates so I thought where could I go myself that might be more fun?

Online research lead me to Colombia as a cheap and short flight and a great exchange rate with very pretty women. Due to alt, Bogota to high, Cartagena too low (and I don't like Cruise ports) I picked Medellin. Read the last 500 pages of this thread, IE ISG: MED Trip Reports.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone had any experience with this el Centro hotel? Trying to determine if it is girl friendly.

Thanks!

I have never had this type of third degree bullshit coming back from Latin America but I sure got it coming back from Thailand. It's just another example of why I don't like my native country very much any more. This whole US mindset of why would you want to go anywhere else makes me want to puke. It's quite a large and interesting world out there, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2105692]Just returned from Medellin. TSA dude asked me why I keep on returning to Colombia. Also asked whether I have seen more than one woman. Also insinuated that I might be seeing minors? I was like NO. I don't date minors. I just like to go there because I like their culture. How do you fellow mongers handle these kind of the questions?[/QUOTE]I say I go for the nice weather, which is true. I live in Chicago and I only go to Colombia when it's cold and miserable in Chicago.

Whoever brought up dancing is out of touch. The Salsa scene in any large US City blows away that of MDE.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2105922]I have never had this type of third degree bullshit coming back from Latin America but I sure got it coming back from Thailand. It's just another example of why I don't like my native country very much any more. This whole US mindset of why would you want to go anywhere else makes me want to puke. It's quite a large and interesting world out there, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]For 4 years I crossed back and forth to Canada 2 times per week for work. 90% of the entries to the US were quick and painless. About 5% were enjoyable. A few questions, maybe a joke or two, followed by a "welcome home."

The remainder were split between ICE agents having a bad day and ICE agents on a power trip. For the ones on a power trip, all they want is to intimidate you. They are looking for any excuse to flex their muscles. My advice, don't give them one.

Keep it simple. "I went for vacation. " If they ask why Colombia, tell them "it's a beautiful country. Have you ever been there?" Tell them you can get a great hotel and eat 3 full meals a day for $50 and still have money left over for the metro. Tell them about the climate. If they ask about drugs, if you're my age "I'm too old for that. " That answer also works when they ask about women.

The "I go there to fuck hookers" approach might work with a few, but if you get the wrong agent, prepare for a very long, unpleasant delay. You're being a smartass to a bully who already despises you and 100% of the power is on his side. He can justify any action taken against you. Why give him an excuse?

From a very old post:

Leticia.

If you are in Leticia, then mongering is not the reason why you are here. There are tons of excellent places in Colombia filled with gorgeous chicas and much better weather. However, if you are looking for a girlfriend for the night after exhausting trips to the jungle there are places you can visit here.

There is a place called Excalibur Bar, pink color, one story building on La Frontera (Internacional Ave) between Calle 7 and 8, right in front of the convenience store. There are two places with girls sitting in the chairs in front, bar and private rooms are in the back. It's a short walk from the hotel district in Leticia, no need for a cab, place is fairly safe, even at night. There are several stores across the street and a night food stall. You can also take a cab for 2-3 K from the center of Leticia, if you stay by the river. Talent on hand is mostly brought over here from Medellin and Cali to work for few months, about 10 to choose from, ranging from 4-8. Since there is not much competition cost are far higher than in BOG, it will cost you 80 K and there is not much room for negotiations.

Further down the street as you cross into Brazilian town of Tabatinga are few places on the left as you cross the border, but they appeared dodgy and unsafe. There is a huge local dance parties in Tabatinga if you happen to be there during the weekend, place is called Compra, if I remember correctly. Any cab from Leticia can take you there. 15 min drive for 30 K. It is for sure a sight to see, and if your Portuguese is good you might get lucky.

Stay in Leticia, on Colombian side, much more pleasant then Tabatinga.

Gardenias, just get a city tour from a taxi driver (15 k COP or less) and he will drive you past it. I walked by one night (I was already occupied with a non-pro Paisa I met on a jungle tour) and there were about 20-25 chicas working and maybe 10 mongers. It is important to note that every bar / restaurant / nightclub here is an open-air outdoor affair without air conditioning, and the heat and humidity here is oppressive.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2105514]Bought my ticket for Medellin and ready for the plunge. Given there is not much to do in Medellin I intend to take two day trips-one to Laguna de Guatape and the other to Leticia to see the Amazon river.

I would imagine that a town like Leticia that is right on the border of several countries has some mongering activities avaliable. Anyone have an experiences or info to share about Leticia?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]

Are hotels in Medellin Chica friendly if so which one of them are.

[QUOTE=Combo;2105970]I say I go for the nice weather, which is true. I live in Chicago and I only go to Colombia when it's cold and miserable in Chicago.

Whoever brought up dancing is out of touch. The Salsa scene in any large US City blows away that of MDE.[/QUOTE]I have one mantra every time: "I went to visit friends". My worst shakedown ever was leaving Barcelona for the US ten years ago. Those Spanish agents gave me the third degree even asking for the addresses of my friends. I just gave them the addresses that I remembered of the places I had visited.

Sept 2017.

6:45 am flight Spirit $306 RT out of TPA via Lauderdale. Went to bed 11:30 p, up at 3:30 am, Spirit was actually fast at check in and was to my gate 1-1/2 HR early. The'oh!

Hour delay on runway in Ft Lauderdale. Wheels down 2 pm MDE time.

Meet my new wingman from USSG, Jerry. Airport bus to hotel Botero in Centro.

Start WhatsApp'ing 2 other ISG members Nuupter & Gwl8012, both staying in El Poblado.

Take Jerry on tour of Redlight blocks, he was impressed with the quality for the $. Seemed weaker then last time to me.

Supposed to meet Nuupter for dinner but he's late, can't find a cab near his AirB&be, HA, stupid El Poblado, you trip over cabs in Centro.

Take Jerry to see Redlightbocks again, my 1st night trip to VeraCruz & Raudal, quite a lively set of blocks 7 pm on a Fri, told Jerry it wasn't a good idea to hang there, did a quick tour of Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva and Maricaibo, meet Nuupter w / Jerry at BrasePan for dinner (about 16 k eack, 2 steaks and a trout w / fries & salad, Apple Fanta.).

Hit Conejitas with them (they actually carded 25 yo Nuupter! Hahaha.) to meet Gw with Nup. & Jerry. , quite loud, quite packed, 40 or so girls on, no cover, cheap drinks, top 4 to 5 girls Fase Dos hot, I grab a girl 1st, Evelyn (it's so funny they all pick American names they can barely pronounce), she wants 80 k include room, I give her 100 k, 1st time upstairs at Conejitas (which means "Little Bunnies" but better translates as "Playmates" have only done takeout there before (50 k fee), room was clean, fan / shower / well lit, she was hot and possibly multi orgasmic (she played with her clit during) Got her WhatsApp, told her maybe Mon.

Gw and Nup both do a girl, then we all head down to BarraEjectiva as I was starting to lose my voice shouting over the music, wow, lots of really busty girls, 30 or so, not as crowded or hot as Conej. I tell the boys I will go next door and check out Maracaibo, maybe 15 girls, less then 10 guys (how does that place stay open? Little hottie spinner 19 yo Emily comes on strong, real cute and sassy, I say what the hell, the boys will wait, I'm the only one who speaks Spanish. LOL. Gave her 100 k (wanted 80 k) 1st time doing it there too, (did take out with the mature Venz. Bombshell Rachel last time) Under the bar, room a little small, but fan and shower. Damn, she was so tight I spent the whole time trying to get all the way in!! Will repeat with her, OMG! Forgot to trade WhatsApp like a idiot.

Go pick up the boys, cab to FaseII, 11 ish, 10 k entry fee ea, 50+ girls on, none I would have said no to, a good mix of natural and silicone Goddesses, top 5+ spectacular. Cheapest we could get by with for 4 of us at a table was 145 k, 1 small bottle Aquardiente and 2 beers, ouch. Gw picks one around 12 ish, I pick one too but god was my ass dragging low. 190 k incld room's which are top of the line.

Thank God she pulls out a little Bolivian Marching Powder which jump starts me after the 4 hrs sleep and about 4 shots Aquardiente. LOL. She looked crazy hot naked, great tit's but can't remember her name. LOL. Maybe Beverly? I come out 1 am-ish and say I am done, me & Jerry cab to Centro and Nup cabs back to his AirB&be, Jw stays. Well we somehow wander into Yakuza at 1:30 am, it being right across from our hotel. Very low quality but they allow free takeout to close by hotels, 45 k 1/2 HR, 60 k HR.

The 2 cutest ones take off so I pick nobody but Jerry finally steps up to the plate and pulls 2 back to his room, both 19 yo-ish.

I pass out in room 2 ish.

Day 2-Saturday.

Couldn't sleep, up at 7:30 a. Meet Jerry & Nap, 9 ish, hit Banco Colombia ATM on Junin Walking street, I like that one, armed guard stands right there, great breakfast at Salon Versalles, ham & eggs with hot rolls, cafe con leche, fresh juice for $5, hit Parque Bolivar next to cruise thru the craft fair, peeked in Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medellin, the big brick church for some photos, then hit Tienda D1 for some food / drink for the room for the TLN girls. Head to VeraCruz redlight block to meet Gw, showed him & Nap and Jerry that block + Raudal, nothing we wanted, it was early. Cab to New Life, about 20 girls, seemed to be the be Team though, only one I like and the other guys agreed, (although she was way hot, but we needed 4) we ran into another ISG member, Ed, from Fla also. We hoofed it over to Casa Paris on Car 47, no real cuties, next Zandaly, 1 or 2 cuties but around the corner on Calle 57 a was a place I didn't know, between Calle 47 and Oriental, a place with a blue mural on the wall, small inside but 3 or 4 cute spinners there, we lost Gw there, he said it was like still under construction, he did her upstairs on the florr I think. LOL, but the rest of us liked the same one. So I said f**k it, let's head to Energy, very long slow cab ride later we go in. Maybe 15+ girls in the lineup, all 3 of us forgot the name / number of the ones we liked (don't think it was their A Team either) so we have to ask to see the whole lineup again like morons. LOL 145 k, ea include a drink, Jerry picks one, Nuupter picks 2, I pick one. Mine was god awful, very bad backrub then rubs my junk with several lotions, one burned like hell, then she held her hand in the way to prevent full penetration, I said F**k this and showered and went to wait 30/40 minutes for my boys, Jerry says Lucianna was the best, let him pop twice, then continued with the massage! Full hour! Mines name was MariAnna I believe, nice tit job and some big ass implants I believe, pretty face, nice smile but the worst service, I've had a better time for 30 k with the Centro street girls. Cab back to Plaza Botero, much better crowd of girls now, several I liked, we turn the corner by the brick wall and there is a hot little spinner who might have been 90 lbs wet with the flattest stomach and tiny waist possible, wanted her bad, braces and all, Luisa, but damn, looked like she may have been too young, claims she is 22, I ask for ID, says she has none, I said sorry, and moved on, so wish she had had some ID. We hit Raudal, packed, the big butt girl that some of you asked me about was there, lots of dudes drinking and partying, we moved on, Taberna Victoria was packed and hot as hell, Conejitas was packed and hot, be Team girls (4:40 ish) Grille Nueva Avenida was so packed it was like someone opened a oven door, walked over to Barra Ejectiva which was nice and cool and empty but only 3 girls on that early, Maracaibo has a few more, but only one doable. Peeked in Yakuza, weak selection. Have a 8 pm TLN date with Sofie my redhead from SA from my 1st trip anyway. Back to room for shower and break. Couldn't get the little VeraCruz spinner Luisa out of my head, decided to run over to Vera Cruz and get her name / number, she was still there, Luisa, told her to bring her ID tomorrow and I'd take her to my hotel for 100 k. She had lost her ID as she said it seems as she WhatsApp'ed me a copy of it as I was on the bus to the airport on my last day. Sigh.

Date with Sofie could have gone better, she has to work early so had to jet by 1 am, we did Parque Boston, dinner at Lilli A La Carte which I strongly don't recommend, Nup. And Louie had dates that were both expensive be*tches, (I told Nup to stop making all night dates with Facebook chicks he hasn't met yet) we all got temp tattoos in the park, mine a Wolf in honor of ISG, drinks at Bar Mao, me and Sophie cabbed back to the hotel, drank, danced, she tried on dresses I brought and picked 2, fun passionate sex and put her in a cab, soon as the cab turned the corner I hit Conejitas which was on the down slope, at least 4 dudes passed out in the club, hot girls all gone, hit Maricaibo, which had 2 or 3 cute spinners and Barra Ejective which had a bunch of big titty girls, both were less crowed by then so not so damn hot, will say the walk to Conejitas is spookier then the walk to BarraEj. At 1:30 ishAM from Hotel Botero but I ended up at Yakuza which had about 5 girls, one cute, they asked me to translate to a older gringo who was hanging out, ISG member from Nebraska, out of the blue he says "Are you Wolf? ? I am, how the hell did you guess that, he said I was wandering Centro at 1:30 am by myself. LOL. So 45 k to take her, Andrea back to my hotel across the street (I really hate Yakuza's Unabomber Shack motif) she turned out to be the most fun of the day! GFE, danced, drank, frenched, we both had a blast in bed. I showed her some of the clothes, what she wanted was my nice Marriot beach towel I brought with me. I said sure! Tipped her 20 k for the awesome time, Nup's WhatsApping me to go out but going on 2 am and reached my daily budget of $ and 3 girls. Must sleep.

Day 3, Sun.

Up at 7:45 (man I can not sleep more then 5 hrs or so in MDE).

Nup has a prepago / Fb date, LOL, taking Gw and Jerry to breakfast then VeraCruz / Raudal, then metro to Mayoista.

Met Queens35 in Plaza Botero and showed him around VeraCruz & Raudal, he likes a Raudal chick and we parted.

Nup got stood up, LOL, came with us to Mayorista, we run into Ed again outside the subway station.

Sunday early afternoon subpar time for Mayorista but GW did a girl, we sat in a sidewalk cafe and had a drink, then Gw wanted to show us his El Poblado AirB&be, I don't care for that part of town, not gritty enough for me, I lived 5 years in a crappy town in Costa Rica and Centro makes me feel at home.

They wanted to walk El Polbado, I was feeling a little off, took off, did a VeraCruz circuit but Sunday afternoon offerings were weak, went back to the room just in time for what I now call "Bolivar's Revenge", I had some street meat on a stick the day before (which the guys all said I was crazy to eat. LOL) and it came back to haunt me with a passion, throwing up, squirts, shakes, hot flashes, didn't even feel good enough to get my antibiotics out of the bathroom plus I couldn't keep anything down.

Was bummed, I thought I'd be in bed the last 3 days of the trip.

Finally passed out and my boys came over at 10 pm, I felt somewhat better, did 1000 MG of Amoxicillin and slammed some water, showered and took off with Nup on a hunt, we did Maracaibo first and there was my Venz Bombshell Rachel from last time looking hot as ever, she is mid 30's, 5'11", has rocking hard body and top of the line breast job, speaks english too but Nup is very picky and we moved on to Barra Ejectiva, he said no, we walked to Conejitas, that block is scarier after 11 then the BarraEjectiva block, sort of post nuclear apocalyptic waste land feel, the line up was a little weak so we cabbed over to Luna Lunera, my 1st visit, nice, only 6-8 chicks but 1 was a 10 to me, 5'2' perfect natural DD's beautiful face, little waist, Marianna, wanted her bad but Nup didn't like anything again so off to Fase II, not their A-Team, back to Luna Lunera (no cover, no pushy dude trying to sell you drinks on a Sunday night, did a 1/2 HR with Mariana, 140 k, but the room was too dark and hot, got her WhatsApp for a date at my hotel Monday, told her 250 k, waited for Nup who did the HR with her friend, then cabbed back to Centro, Nup jetted home, I wondered into Yakuza 1 am-sh, saw my girlie Andrea, told her we'd go to my hotel and just then a new super little hottie comes out. Damn!

The new girl Rosanna, beautiful cat eyes, smoking little hot bod, fresh look, goes around with a hat for tips and then does a super sexy floor show down to nude at Yakuza, nice, I take Andrea over to my hotel (45 k) have fun and then walk her back and as soon as she goes in the back I ask the new girl Rosanna to come back to my hotel, now past 2 am, she looked great naked and was a little different, kept her shoes on and covered her face with a pillow halfway through, screamed into it, I kinda liked it. And I was puking my guts out earlier that night, way to Rally! She left and I past out 3 am. Whewww.

Day 4 Sunday.

We cruised Vera Cruz and Raudal, did some shopping. My first attempted jack happened, saw two cute spinner chicks headed into Botero Plaza, 1 white /1 black, get ahead of them, the black one come up and grabs my ass, I stop to talk to the cuter one and the black one reaches into my pocket, nice try, chapstick and eye drops, $ is in lower pocket and money belt, I break away. See ya!

Had my Luna Lunera girl Marianna to the room for a 7 pm tryst, she was so hot I just gave her 300 k as I didn't want any chance of no or her flaking out. She comes over a bit Colombian, ie a hour late, we skip dinner and just go to my room, she's as hot and sweet as I remember, if you want a not fat chick with pretty face and awesome natural DD's she is your girl.

She splits, me and the boys start the circuit, BE / Macaibo / Conejitas / Yakuza. Kinda early so not much yet, we cab to Grille San Diego in the rain for my 1st visit, 10 k entry, I ask the door guy how many girls on, he says 20, yeah right, go in- 3 not so hot girls on floor, I say see ya and we cab to FaseII, 20 girls on, some super hot as usual, meet a natural stunner spinner Estrella, 21 yo, beautiful face, slender body, perky tits, awesome tattoos, sweet attitude, I say lets do it, 190 k on site, WOW, one of those rare girls that is twice as hot naked, no strech marks, scars, saggy anything, my jaw hits the floor. Real fun and passionate, get her # for her to come over Tues, again go high with 300 k cause damn I don't want to a no to be even possible. Jerry then see's her and pays the 190 k, I joked to Gw and Nup we were doing a slow train and they were next, flip for caboose. LOL.

After we jet back to Con / BE / Mar / Yak and I fall in lust with my Venz bombshell Rachel again, she's like 5'11" and has a very hard body / great tit job, tell her to come over for TLN, 300 k, when she gets off at 2 am, meanwhile we grab some food at Brase Pan and end up in Yakuza / BE till almost 2, she comes, tries on some dresses, likes 2 and the blond wig, LOL, we dance, drink, then I almost fall asleep when she remembers I have hot water, like a hour long shower, then we trade long backrubs and get down, asleep at 4 am. Yikes.

Day 5/6 Tues / Weds.

Wake up 9:30 ish, Rachel still passed out, I head down to pay hotel bill for 5 days, find Jerry coming in with a little cutie takeout from Yakuza (45 k), a bit later Jerry comes over to head to Salon Versalles for breakfast, Rachel gets up totally naked to say HI to Jerry. We all do breakfast, I message my fav Conejitas girl Tanya who is working in the Islands to warn her to get to high ground due to the approaching hurricane, she says she flew out early to avoid the storm and has been in MDE for a day! I make a dinner date with her, ditch Rachel, meet Nup w / Jerry for a VeraCruz run, finally the number and quality were back up, do some shopping, buy a awesome Colombian hammock for 60 k, a little old lady under the metro in Botero had the large Botero statues for 10 k, the same ones the shop had for 60 k, get one of those, the horsey. I am exhausted and go back to wait for my 4 pm with Estrella from Fase, OMG, she was on time, like 4:05 she shows up! How un-Colombian is that?! She tries on the last 2 girls items, likes 'them both and we dance a bit and then she strip teases while my tongue rolls down to the floor. Kick her at 5:30 ish to rest a bit, think Tanya can hook my boys up at her club, she'll know who for how much. Planning on the classic Colombian restaurant La Hacienda on Paseo Junin with Tanya and the boys.

Estrella just WhatsApped me wants to come over tomorrow AM before I go airport, depends what time I kick Tanya.

Tanya can't make dinner, but we eat way to much and the food is so good there, but damn we can barely move we are so full, back to my hotel for a breather and wait for Tanya, she meets us 10 p, hit her club, dead, go to BarraEx next, Tanya knows all the hot ones, 20+ girls, usual mostly big titty types, a few very hot, (I thought) we drink there till almost 1 am-ish, ISG member Queens35 meets us with a bud of his, my boys can't find the one they want for the price they wanted. (most wanted 300 k TLN + 60 k club exit fee) Tanya is the life of the club as usual, doing shots, dancing, singing, inviting hotties over to sit with us.

Walk thru Maricibo a few times, pretty dead, 1 or 2 cuties + plus my Amazon Venz Rachel already dancing in the black dress I gave her.

Me & Tanya head back the 2 blocks in a cab due to rain, we drink, smoke, dance, back rubs, fun till 3 am-ish, get up 9 am more fun, go to breakfast at Brase Pan, hit the local mall to replace my watch-the band had broke, found a nice Casio store, found a nice dive watch pretty cheap.

Early bus to airport just in case. Spirit knocks back my connecting flt back 4 hrs, won't get home till past 3 am, have to be at work early. Spend about 6 hours in the MDE airport.

It's official, I hate Spirit too now, MDE takeoff pushed past 5 p for a org 1:21 flt. Plus we sit on the runway for 1/2 HR because "They are paving some potholes". My connect in Ft Lauderdale pushed back 4 hrs at least so I don't miss that flight, I'll lucky to get home by 3 am. Send lawyers, guns and money!

[QUOTE=Showdown;2105514]Bought my ticket for Medellin and ready for the plunge. Given there is not much to do in Medellin I intend to take two day trips-one to Laguna de Guatape and the other to Leticia to see the Amazon river.[/QUOTE]Day trip to Leticia? It's about 820 miles from MDE. A 3 &1/2 HR flight one way according to Google. I assume on a puddle jumper prop plane.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2105872]MED Trip 2.

June 2017.

<snip> I also brought some gifts this time which seems to help.[/QUOTE]What kind of gifts do they like?

Thanks, Bob.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2106136]What kind of gifts do they like?

Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]I go to Victoria Secrets and Pink, they have panties 5 for $28 and some body sprays are like 3 for 30 so pretty cheap and they really like these.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2106136]What kind of gifts do they like?

Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]I went to [URL]https://www.wish.com/[/URL].

They have super cheap stuff, I got sunglasses, bathing suits, mini-dresses, rings etc. It was all popular. I got about 10 items for around $50. I did a combo of MED's and Smalls.

Order early as the stuff is shipped from China, 10 to 20 days for delv.

Stuff I got:

Here's Estrella trying on the white bottoms.

Sarah from the VeraCruz had the wings and flowers (I'd look closely at just where the flowers are tattooed).

Estrella from Fase Dos has her whole back done.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2105913]Has anyone had any experience with this el Centro hotel? Trying to determine if it is girl friendly.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I've walked past it, at $16 a night I doubt they are too picky. It is one block from the redlight girls behind Iglesia Vera Cruz.

I'd go another $10 and stay at the Botero.

Book a room for 2.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/calle-real-medellin.html?label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmcgV1c19mbIgBAZgBMcIBCndpbmRvd3MgMTDIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=d202c3f6076327b698ecb12783dd1348;all_sr_blocks=41027201_105458095_0_0_0;checkin=2018-01-17;checkout=2018-01-18;dest_id=-592318;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;hapos=1;highlighted_blocks=41027201_105458095_0_0_0;hpos=1;nflt=ht_id%3D204;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;srepoch=1510788753;srfid=7cbbf8fc758c119c4e090075ffb980def2621dffX1;srpvid=cc91a587247c0669;type=total;ucfs=1&[/URL]#hotelTmpl.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/botero-plaza.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmcgV1c19mbIgBAZgBMcIBCndpbmRvd3MgMTDIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=d202c3f6076327b698ecb12783dd1348;atlas_src=sr_iw_title;checkin=2018-01-17;checkout=2018-01-18;dist=0;group_adults=2;nflt=ht_id%3D204%3B;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;srepoch=1510788801;srpvid=3a4ea52713f200ee;type=total&[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2105913]Has anyone had any experience with this el Centro hotel? Trying to determine if it is girl friendly.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I'd also consider the Hotel Normandia.

Calle 53 No 49 100, La Candelaria.

$22 a night.

It's about 2 doors down from strip clubs BarreEjectiva and Maracaibo, same side of the street.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/normandia.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmcgV1c19mbIgBAZgBMcIBCndpbmRvd3MgMTDIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=d202c3f6076327b698ecb12783dd1348;all_sr_blocks=55770901_89182154_2_0_0;checkin=2018-01-15;checkout=2018-01-16;dest_id=-592318;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;hapos=9;highlighted_blocks=55770901_89182154_2_0_0;hpos=9;nflt=ht_id%3D204%3Bdi%3D4140;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;srepoch=1510795410;srfid=911db488efcdd45b30613f7a1629a874c72e45a4X9;srpvid=d67009c809170213;type=total;ucfs=1&[/URL]#hotelTmpl.

[QUOTE=Chenz24;2106083]Are hotels in Medellin Chica friendly if so which one of them are.[/QUOTE]Whew. That's a pretty broad question. Hopefully, you won't get flamed by anyone. You might be better served if you ask if a particular hotel is Chica friendly. Or, just stick with AirBnBs or rentals and ensure there are no issues before you seal the deal with the owner.

Good luck.

How worried should I be regarding getting HIV / STD in Medellin if using protection?

How have your experiences been in Medellin?

I read some articles online that seem a bit scary.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2105872]MED Trip 2.

June 2017.[/QUOTE]In my trip 2 report the 2 Sara / Sarah's have the picture names opposite the report names.

The good looking 22 yo from the VeraCruz block has the striped hair and holding a stuffed animal in the pic and has the wings and flowers tattoos.

Sara2 is in the grey dress and long black hair and worked at BarreEjectiva.

[QUOTE=DennisDucati;2106188]How worried should I be regarding getting HIV / STD in Medellin if using protection?

How have your experiences been in Medellin?

I read some articles online that seem a bit scary.

Thank you![/QUOTE]If you're using protection, you have very, very little to worry about. Unless you're sharing needles or plan to be on the receiving end of unprotected anal you have very little to worry about.

Hey all,

Thanks for the advice earlier about whether to stay in Poblado vs Centro. I will be staying in Mansion / Hotel M since this seems to be the most conservative choice for a first timer. I'd like to take some independents from Parque Lleras back to Mansion and I realize it's a cab ride away nearly 1 mile. By your experiences will girls go with you to a hotel they're not familiar with?

Also I'm attempting to build an FB contact list before going but having no luck getting girls to friend me. I think I found a list based on another forum post (look for older gringos with a bunch of hot girls as friends). But adding them to FB has lead to no results. I speak no Spanish but can obviously use a translator.

Hi Wolf,

Your reports are outstanding! Sure would like to wing with you as I have never been to Colombia. I am older (62) from California and not into the late scene but love the big tits Latina lovers even though I speak very little Spanish. Cheers buddy.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2106120]Sept 2017.![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2106069]Keep it simple. "I went for vacation. " If they ask why Colombia, tell them "it's a beautiful country. Have you ever been there?"[/QUOTE]This is the best reply you can give. He is trying to give you hard time, and you respond relaxed, implying that he is the one on the wrong side, because he misses all the beauty that is out there, out US border that he thinks he's keeping safe. At any rate, do not forget that you have NOTHING to be ashamed or guilty for (I assume you don't take drugs, either within or outside the US borders). Stupid questions are shameful instead.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2106182]I'd also consider the Hotel Normandia.

Calle 53 No 49 100, La Candelaria.

$22 a night.

It's about 2 doors down from strip clubs BarreEjectiva and Maracaibo, same side of the street.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/normandia.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmcgV1c19mbIgBAZgBMcIBCndpbmRvd3MgMTDIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=d202c3f6076327b698ecb12783dd1348;all_sr_blocks=55770901_89182154_2_0_0;checkin=2018-01-15;checkout=2018-01-16;dest_id=-592318;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;hapos=9;highlighted_blocks=55770901_89182154_2_0_0;hpos=9;nflt=ht_id%3D204%3Bdi%3D4140;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;srepoch=1510795410;srfid=911db488efcdd45b30613f7a1629a874c72e45a4X9;srpvid=d67009c809170213;type=total;ucfs=1&[/URL]#hotelTmpl.[/QUOTE]Why is that hotel so cheap. I stayed at the mansion which was expensive. If I would have known about that place I would have stayed there. How far is that hotel from the Mansion?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2106356]Why is that hotel so cheap. I stayed at the mansion which was expensive. If I would have known about that place I would have stayed there. How far is that hotel from the Mansion?[/QUOTE]This is pretty far from the M. The M caters to mongers and provides services this place doesn't. If MDE is new and you have none to very little spanish than M makes it less frustrating. If you want to stay where locals stay and can speak decent spanish with minimal assistance than you can stay here. M like all others run by gringos rake the gringos because they know they can. I've noticed that most airbnb rates have gone up since I was last there because they know they can get that rate from gringos and make a decent profit.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2106385]This is pretty far from the M. The M caters to mongers and provides services this place doesn't. If MDE is new and you have none to very little spanish than M makes it less frustrating. If you want to stay where locals stay and can speak decent spanish with minimal assistance than you can stay here. M like all others run by gringos rake the gringos because they know they can.[/QUOTE]And besides that, it is located downtown where most on this forum seem afraid to go. The place I stay across the street from Normandia is only $11.60.

Here is the objective explanation. Think of any big city you know. Now think of an upscale section of that city (Beverly Hills, Park Avenue New York, Lakeshore Drive Chicago, Mayfair London). Think of the lower end neighborhoods of those same cities (South Central, South Bronx New York, Southside Chicago, East End London). The difference in lodging costs and distance between the high and low end neighborhoods of those cities is similar to the difference between Poblado (gringo hotel) and Centro. That is why mansion cost so much more than Normandia, there is the additional cost of paying what the owners know you can afford.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2106356]Why is that hotel so cheap. I stayed at the mansion which was expensive. If I would have known about that place I would have stayed there. How far is that hotel from the Mansion?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2106212]Hey all,

Thanks for the advice earlier about whether to stay in Poblado vs Centro. I will be staying in Mansion / Hotel M since this seems to be the most conservative choice for a first timer. I'd like to take some independents from Parque Lleras back to Mansion and I realize it's a cab ride away nearly 1 mile. By your experiences will girls go with you to a hotel they're not familiar with?

Also I'm attempting to build an FB contact list before going but having no luck getting girls to friend me. I think I found a list based on another forum post (look for older gringos with a bunch of hot girls as friends). But adding them to FB has lead to no results. I speak no Spanish but can obviously use a translator.[/QUOTE]Chances are, if you pull a girl from Parque Lleras, she's well aware of the Mansion. The only problem you will have is if she has been banned from the Mansion.

Somewhere on the board I wrote a step by step guide for Facebook. Maybe in the Medellin chit chat thread.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2106403]And besides that, it is located downtown where most on this forum seem afraid to go. The place I stay across the street from Normandia is only $11.60.[/QUOTE]Afraid to go? Nope.

I hang there, hunt there, enjoy the time there in Centro, but damn it's nice to get out of there and enjoy a nicer hotel in a more relaxed and tranquil area.

For me anyway, I usually stay in the Laureles / el Estadio area, which is close by, but way more relaxed, and quiet.

To each their own of course.

Married teacher 'forced students to have SEX with her to get good grades' at Colombian school.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5089631/Teacher-forced-students-SEX-grades-Colombia.html[/URL]

I like to know if hotels in Medellin are generally Chica friendly or are there certain ones you know of.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2105845]MED trip 1.

Feb 2017-My 1st trip to Colombia.
Went looking for the girl I saw on Sat, went 9:30 ish. Not there, about 15 girls and 12 customers, through 3 of the girls were hot, one super hot to me, the typical beautiful long straight black hair, banging body, nice big bolt ONS, flat stomach, pretty face, good attitude, 21 yo Tanya. Wasn't in the mood for bartering, paid 50 k to the Club for takeout and offered her 300 k for all night, ended up keeping her almost till I left, we just got along so well and she was so GFE, took her shopping the next day, my idea, walked all around the shopping districts in Centro, bought her some clothes and purses etc, we eat out and had fun, then she left Monday night 11 ish, soon as her cab turned the corner I hit Maricibo and Barre Executive, Maribaibo sucked but about 12 girls at BarreEj, 3 hotties, the 2 hottest younger ones sitting at tables with guys, so I took choice #3, a 33 yo human analog Jessica Rabbit "Carla"with a semi-oriental look to her face and a banging body with some great bolt-ONS. Gave her 240,000 for takeout includ club fee to my hotel, we drank, danced, smoked (she had) and had great fun. She was also good in bed and would see her again. Let her go around 2 am. (don't ask for her number, she was murdered last month).[/QUOTE]Woops, forgot to add Carla from BarreEjectivas pics:

I decided to extend my Colombia trip by several days because really want to see the country, That means Medellin, then Leticia and now Choco. From what I have read Choco is where most Black Colombians live. But I have not seen anything on the boards about this region. It has to be somewhat beautiful given it borders on the Pacific Ocean. I even learned a women named Vanessa Mendoza was Miss Colombia at one time and she is from that region. If they all look like here where do I sign up?

Anyone been there or heard anything about it?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2106474]Married teacher 'forced students to have SEX with her to get good grades' at Colombian school.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5089631/Teacher-forced-students-SEX-grades-Colombia.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Her cavalier approach to having sex with her pupils seems to indicate that this is widely practiced in Colombia perhaps not necessarily for better grades. She possibly got careless. If ever we had a teacher like that at my school she would have been gang banged to death.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2106474]Married teacher 'forced students to have SEX with her to get good grades' at Colombian school.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5089631/Teacher-forced-students-SEX-grades-Colombia.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't know about anyone else but I would have taken my grade from F up to a be with her and kept my mouth shut!

[QUOTE=Showdown;2106496]I decided to extend my Colombia trip by several days because really want to see the country, That means Medellin, then Leticia and now Choco. From what I have read Choco is where most Black Colombians live. But I have not seen anything on the boards about this region. It has to be somewhat beautiful given it borders on the Pacific Ocean. I even learned a women named Vanessa Mendoza was Miss Colombia at one time and she is from that region. If they all look like here where do I sign up?

Anyone been there or heard anything about it?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]Haven't been there but my roommate went a few months ago. Beautiful area with minimal services. Don't expect lots of mongering opportunities.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2106139]I go to Victoria Secrets and Pink, they have panties 5 for $28 and some body sprays are like 3 for 30 so pretty cheap and they really like these.[/QUOTE]Thanks. And to Wolf too. Gifts help in my experience. But they have to be the right gift. Once gave a sweet young thing in Bangkok an English / Thai dictionary. Totally uninterested.

Thanks again guys. Bob.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2106212]
Also I'm attempting to build an FB contact list before going but having no luck getting girls to friend me. I think I found a list based on another forum post (look for older gringos with a bunch of hot girls as friends). But adding them to FB has lead to no results. I speak no Spanish but can obviously use a translator.[/QUOTE]If you are staying at the Mansion, then that's the perfect place to build your starter fb list. Get a chicas fb info there, friend her, then find another chica, friend her, and then start friending their friends (especially if you start to recognize other girls from the mansion showing up in their friends list). It will go better if you ask for this info after you session with her though, as she probably will be more inclined to give it to you as opposed to some rando, LOL.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2106212]Hey all,

Thanks for the advice earlier about whether to stay in Poblado vs Centro. I will be staying in Mansion / Hotel M since this seems to be the most conservative choice for a first timer. I'd like to take some independents from Parque Lleras back to Mansion and I realize it's a cab ride away nearly 1 mile. By your experiences will girls go with you to a hotel they're not familiar with?

Also I'm attempting to build an FB contact list before going but having no luck getting girls to friend me. I think I found a list based on another forum post (look for older gringos with a bunch of hot girls as friends). But adding them to FB has lead to no results. I speak no Spanish but can obviously use a translator.[/QUOTE]If you are staying at the Mansion then add every girl you see to your facebook whether you like her or not. Because they are all friends with other girls that work. Also just ask some of the guys that sit around the pool all day to help you contact some chicks that they recommend through facebook. Some guys won't be much help but others will gladly give up their contacts and help you out.

Street walkers will pretty much go anywhere you want if you show them the money. But figuring out which chicks are working and which chicks are just hanging out at the park won't be easiest thing for a first timer. Unless you look like a John and they just come up to you.

If I were you I think I would just skip the park scene and go to Gustos club in parque lleras or a strip club if I happened to strike out at the mansion bar.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2106580]If you are staying at the Mansion then add every girl you see to your facebook whether you like her or not. Because they are all friends with other girls that work. Also just ask some of the guys that sit around the pool all day to help you contact some chicks that they recommend through facebook. Some guys won't be much help but others will gladly give up their contacts and help you out.

Street walkers will pretty much go anywhere you want if you show them the money. But figuring out which chicks are working and which chicks are just hanging out at the park won't be easiest thing for a first timer. Unless you look like a John and they just come up to you.

If I were you I think I would just skip the park scene and go to Gustos club in parque lleras or a strip club if I happened to strike out at the mansion bar.[/QUOTE]Figuring out which girls are working in the park isn't difficult. If you walk by many will greet you or give you a definite look. If they are standing in one spot, unless it's in the line to get into Gusto, they are almost definitely working.

I'm not sure why Gusto gets all the attention. I took a visitor for a walk through Lleras last night. Most of the busy nightclubs have working girls on-site. There were about 10 in Hacienda and The SkyBar looked to have more.

If Parque Lleras is your hunting ground, you have plenty of options beyond Gusto.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2106667]

I'm not sure why Gusto gets all the attention.

[/QUOTE]I think Gusto is just more well know to have prepagos on site then the other places.

But I have noticed that Gusto is now giving the working girls a different colored wristband than the.

Normal patrons. Just to avoid any confusion for the non spanish speaking newbies. Jajaja.

Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2105845]I didn't do a very good job with my 1st trip reports, were in several sections and not very detailed. So I went back and re-wrote my 3 trip reports from this year so some of this will be familiar from earlier.

MED trip 1.

Feb 2017-My 1st trip to Colombia.
.......2nd trip to Conejitas. Sunday night.

Went looking for the girl I saw on Sat, went 9:30 ish. Not there, about 15 girls and 12 customers, through 3 of the girls were hot, one super hot to me, the typical beautiful long straight black hair, banging body, nice big bolt ONS, flat stomach, pretty face, good attitude, 21 yo Tanya. Wasn't in the mood for bartering, paid 50 k to the Club for takeout and offered her 300 k for all night, ended up keeping her almost till I left, we just got along so well and she was so GFE, took her shopping the next day, my idea, walked all around the shopping districts in Centro, bought her some clothes and purses etc, we eat out and had fun, then she left Monday night 11 ish, soon as her cab turned the corner I hit Maricibo and Barre Executive, Maribaibo sucked but about 12 girls at BarreEj, 3 hotties, the 2 hottest younger ones sitting at tables with guys, so I took choice #3, a 33 yo human analog Jessica Rabbit "Carla"with a semi-oriental look to her face and a banging body with some great bolt-ONS. Gave her 240,000 for takeout includ club fee to my hotel, we drank, danced, smoked (she had) and had great fun. She was also good in bed and would see her again. Let her go around 2 am. (don't ask for her number, she was murdered last month).[/QUOTE]Woops, I wrote that wrong, Carla from BarreExectiva was not the one who was murdered, it was my sweetie fav from Conejitas Tanya who was.

And she was a real doll, so sweet and happy, I hope they find who did it and he get shot in the balls "escaping" and bleeds out on the sidewalk.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2106794]Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.[/QUOTE]I think it is straight forward to create a "explorer" account and not post your pictures or actual birth date, city, profession.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2106794]Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.[/QUOTE]One way is to set up so nobody can see your friend list. Then set so only you can see posts you like or comment on and so that nobody can post to your timeline without your approval.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2106794]Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.[/QUOTE]You can put your privacy settings on tight! Just create a separate friends group for your non-real world girls and make sure they can't see anything and that none of your other friends can see your friends lists. You have to make sure whenever you push out a friend request, you specify which friends list you want that person added to. I haven't had any issues that way.

You can alternatively set up a second FB account, but I just chose not to go that route. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2106754] Gusto is now giving the working girls a different colored wristband. [/QUOTE]That's good to know!

I already posted in trip announcements but maybe more viewers here. I'll be in MDE for the first time from December 19-26 coming from West Coast USA. Hope to meet with fellow newbies and vets for girly and non-girly activities. I'll be staying at the Mansion. I'm in my early 30's, of East Asian descent (which I heard Colombian girls are not so fond of LOL), no Spanish skills, so any vet help with non-Mansion activities is highly appreciated.

On a side note, I managed to add a few FB girls. I started writing to one of them, and using a translator, I asked for a photo. She sent one and said "dame bby", which I've no idea wtf it meant, so I didn't reply back. Then later that day I checked she unfriended me hah I know there are way more FB girls to choose from, but that was disappointing.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2106794]Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.[/QUOTE]Yes. I looked at a few accounts that are obviously mongers since their friend list is all hot girls. Philippines is another big FB using area and the guys there usually use a monger account.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2106794]Do the guys using Facebook set up a fake account or do they just use Messenger without adding as a friend? People know I am fooling around but I do not like to thrown it in their faces or even draw attention to it.[/QUOTE]You can set up a dummy account, but you still need to populate it with photos of yourself. Don't do dumb shit like putting a photo of a celebrity or cartoon characters on your profile.

If a chica can't get an idea of what you look like, or if her "network" can't vouch for your, then you will be ignored. Nothing wrong with having you main profile pic be of something else (like a beach or nice car), but you need to have multiple photos of you somewhere in your photo gallery.

Think of it the same way you would with online dating in the US: If you see a profile of a chick and it's is filled with nothing but memes and pics of hot female celebs, your "bullshit" flag goes up instantly, no?

[QUOTE=Showdown;2106474]Married teacher 'forced students to have SEX with her to get good grades' at Colombian school.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5089631/Teacher-forced-students-SEX-grades-Colombia.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Since the age of consent in Colombia is 14, I wonder what she was charged with. Maybe there is something in the law about teacher / student. We all know a male can't be forced to have intercourse if he doesn't want to.

Yesterday at 5:45 pm, there were four chicas sitting at a table outside Domino's Pizza on Calle 10. They called to me as I walked by. Two were a little fat, one wasn't attractive, but the fourth one was slim and attractive. If I wasn't used up for the day, I would have tried to do something with her. At about 9:30, as I walked from Hooters to Patrick's, I saw three chicas, not together, who gave me the look that they were available. I left Patrick's about 10:30 and it was raining, so I didn't see any chicas as I walked up the hill to Cra 36. I did not go into the park to see who was there.

Basically I should treat working girls like I do Trump supporters. I had one post this morning saying "Democrats are the enemy. " Real good guy. Mormon. Surfer. I played football with him in high school. We now base our friendships on politics? All we did in high school was debate politics.

I had a good friend who was Lutheran and I was raised Catholic. He was interested in history and we would debate the Reformation all the time while walking to school. Unfortunately he died of a stroke in his fifties due to a bad fall. I went to the funeral and it turns out he married a Catholic girl. A Catholic mass was celebrated. Although I was sad for the early loss of life, I could not help but smiling as I thought "Well guy, it sure looks like I won the Catholic Protestant debate. ".

[QUOTE=Tasss;2106916]I started writing to one of them, and using a translator, I asked for a photo. She sent one and said "dame bby", which I've no idea wtf it meant, so I didn't reply back.[/QUOTE]Translation: "Give me {your photo}, baby. " It's the second-person informal imperative form of "dar" with an object pronoun appended to the end.

I recommend using Duolingo to get started with Spanish.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2106878]You can put your privacy settings on tight! Just create a separate friends group for your non-real world girls and make sure they can't see anything and that none of your other friends can see your friends lists. You have to make sure whenever you push out a friend request, you specify which friends list you want that person added to. I haven't had any issues that way.

You can alternatively set up a second FB account, but I just chose not to go that route. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if you know. It doesn't matter what you do. FB uses a facial recognition algorithm and what will happen is frends suggestions will come across your normal life meaning your regular friends on your other or real identity. You have to make a decision. Chose the monger life or a straight life in FB. In the hacking world, its called contamination, if you go just once and only once, you have now breached your anonymity. Another example if your face has been tagged you can forget about it. One more advice, for all you who added your phone number to FB, well, that is being shared on an algorithm as well. Sorry if I scared anyone but you guys really need to know the facts.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2107074]I'm not sure if you know. It doesn't matter what you do. FB uses a facial recognition algorithm and what will happen is frends suggestions will come across your normal life meaning your regular friends on your other or real identity. You have to make a decision. Chose the monger life or a straight life in FB. In the hacking world, its called contamination, if you go just once and only once, you have now breached your anonymity. Another example if your face has been tagged you can forget about it. One more advice, for all you who added your phone number to FB, well, that is being shared on an algorithm as well. Sorry if I scared anyone but you guys really need to know the facts.[/QUOTE]You can get around this. When I set up my alternate FB account I started seeing people from my non-mongering FB profile showing up as suggested friends later down the line, even though my mongering account is populated with nothing but Colombianas. So you are right in that facial recognition is coming into play.

What I did was anyone who I would see show up as a suggested friend from my "normal life" I would preemptively go to their profile and block them. Pretty soon no one who I knew would show up as a suggested friend anymore.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2106916]I already posted in trip announcements but maybe more viewers here. I'll be in MDE for the first time from December 19-26 coming from West Coast USA. Hope to meet with fellow newbies and vets for girly and non-girly activities. I'll be staying at the Mansion. I'm in my early 30's, of East Asian descent (which I heard Colombian girls are not so fond of LOL), no Spanish skills, so any vet help with non-Mansion activities is highly appreciated.

On a side note, I managed to add a few FB girls. I started writing to one of them, and using a translator, I asked for a photo. She sent one and said "dame bby", which I've no idea wtf it meant, so I didn't reply back. Then later that day I checked she unfriended me hah I know there are way more FB girls to choose from, but that was disappointing.

Yes. I looked at a few accounts that are obviously mongers since their friend list is all hot girls. Philippines is another big FB using area and the guys there usually use a monger account.[/QUOTE]"Dame" means give me. I'm guessing she was expecting you to send her a picture in return. It's pronounced roughly "the may. " If you're using a translator app, keep it simple. Short direct sentences, with nothing too complex.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2106995]Since the age of consent in Colombia is 14, I wonder what she was charged with. Maybe there is something in the law about teacher / student. We all know a male can't be forced to have intercourse if he doesn't want to.[/QUOTE]This is an area of much confusion that can get people in lot of trouble. The age of consent, same as in the US, means they can start having sex with others who are under 18. Two 16 year olds having sex is no problem. A 30 year-old and a 16 year old having sex is a problem.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2107079]You can get around this. When I set up my alternate FB account I started seeing people from my non-mongering FB profile showing up as suggested friends later down the line, even though my mongering account is populated with nothing but Colombianas. So you are right in that facial recognition is coming into play.

What I did was anyone who I would see show up as a suggested friend from my "normal life" I would preemptively go to their profile and block them. Pretty soon no one who I knew would show up as a suggested friend anymore.[/QUOTE]What FB will do is take any data that you've made (Data FootPrint) and take this and add this to search engine. Push through a command that says to suggest your account to any other account that you have. So for example, if you've commented on a friends FB posting, that is now public, anyone of her friends can see that. So like 6 degrees to Kevin Bacon, it some how comes back to your real life. Sorry bro, FB agenda is to connect anyone and everyone on FB and beyond and use this leverage to push advertisment and their world domination. MicroSoft have now bought LinkedIn and you best believe data and logic will be shared with FB as MicroSoft is a major shareholder of FB.

Can't speak to your technical comments, although they are very frightening and comprise reason #5,217 I am not on social media at all. But, to say MS is a major shareholder in FB is a bit of a stretch. As of the latest filings it was less than 1. 5%. Keep in mind that although Z owns fewer than half the outstanding shares, he has maintained absolute control through FB's two-class share structure. Alphabet also has a two-class share structure. Unfortunately, a lot of investors don't understand the implication of these structures. MS owns cumulative preferred shares of FB, I am pretty sure.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2107096]Can't speak to your technical comments, although they are very frightening and comprise reason #5,217 I am not on social media at all. But, to say MS is a major shareholder in FB is a bit of a stretch. As of the latest filings it was less than 1. 5%. Keep in mind that although Z owns fewer than half the outstanding shares, he has maintained absolute control through FB's two-class share structure. Alphabet also has a two-class share structure. Unfortunately, a lot of investors don't understand the implication of these structures. MS owns cumulative preferred shares of FB, I am pretty sure.[/QUOTE]I have not followed what MS has done with their shares since the incubation of FB as of late. But I do know that techies who jump back and forth through out this industry brings with them the knowledge of how data is shared and optimizing it for the agenda of each company. Ahh how the silicon valley has changed so much from the days I was there. Google / FB / Apple all steal from each employees with the know how and talent to get this done but we are digressing this board. I can talk about it for days but I too for the longest have steered away from Social media until I needed it to start my trips to MDE. Other than that, I have no need for Social media myself. But I do dread the day it somehow comes back. Luckily, there is nothing on there that I've posted that makes me look inappropriate if someone should so search. As for my FB friends I hope nothing too crazy posting on my page. LOL. Either way, like I said choose one or the other if your going to be using this that's my only advice.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2107094]Sorry bro, FB agenda is to connect anyone and everyone on FB and beyond and use this leverage to push advertisment and their world domination. MicroSoft have now bought LinkedIn and you best believe data and logic will be shared with FB as MicroSoft is a major shareholder of FB.[/QUOTE]Probably should be prefaced as "YMMV".

I've been at this FB prepagos game since 2013. I have yet to have anyone from my main FB say to me "Hey, what's up with the other FB page?" or send a friend request to it. Maybe it can be attributed to the fact that most folks are lazy and are not going to put in the effort to investigate further than the photo of the alt account. I would say 99.9 percent of your "FB friends" don't even care and are too busy shouting over one another (that's really all FB is these days) to even notice it.

I don't have a dog in this fight because:

A) I'm single.

B) can't think of one single person I know that would care enough to go "splorin". I don't add girlfriends, potential girlfriends, or exes to my main FB. I don't even have immediate family added to my main FB.

C) I take common sense privacy approaches to the dummy FB account by locking down my friends list and timeline (meaning you have to be a friend to even see who's on my list and what's on my timeline. And it's set to "friends only" so no "friend of a friend" can view my shit either), not allowing people to find you by email address, etc.

UPDATE: Just checked my privacy settings and only I can see my friends list

Another Hack: “Do you want search engines outside of Facebook to link to your profile?” NO!!! Turn this off.

I also don't have anything on my timeline other a few photos of myself or memes that I have shared. No photos with me with any chicas or crime scene photos of drug, booze, and sex-filled orgies with "tha bros". The alt account is for networking only.

Hasnt fouled me up yet despite what Zuckerface intends for it to do or be.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2107104]Probably should be prefaced as "YMMV".[/QUOTE]I followed this discussion and I understand all your (very reasonable) arguments.

I have 1) a main FB account, where I post NOTHING except my real name and a photo, which I just use to Messenger with those girls who don't like to use WhatsApp or Wechat, and 2) a secondary one with a fake name and as profile photo the photo of a guy that I photographed on top of the rock of Guatape while he was taking a selfie with his girlfriends (negligible probability anyone could recognize him).

Said all this, still I don't feel comfortable to start a real activity on any of my FB profiles, because the privacy settings are so complex, so cumbersome, and they even change with time, that I am afraid one day I could make a mistake.

I don't really want any person of my real life, or any of my serious girlfriends, or even any of the Colombian hookers I met in Cartagena or Medellin, to discover I have tons of girls in Indonesia. Not even I would like that my girlfriends may get in touch one with the other.

That's the profound difference. Nobody of the persons on my phone contact list can see who are the others. Could you imagine that?? The same paradigm is applied in Skype, WhatsApp, WeChat. Facebook is different. They WANT your friends get linked together, and anything to impede that is made cumbersome on purpose. Because it's a networking thing.

Well, I don't want my friends do network together. That's my private world. So, bubye Mr. Zuckerman.

You understand social networking better than most of the others who have been contributing to this thread. The fact of the matter is all it takes is one stray click and all your contacts and the contacts of your contacts can see your entire history. You have to be extremely careful. I don't personally have the patience or energy for it so I leave it alone.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2107116]I followed this discussion and I understand all your (very reasonable) arguments.

I have 1) a main FB account, where I post NOTHING except my real name and a photo, which I just use to Messenger with those girls who don't like to use WhatsApp or Wechat, and 2) a secondary one with a fake name and as profile photo the photo of a guy that I photographed on top of the rock of Guatape while he was taking a selfie with his girlfriends (negligible probability anyone could recognize him).

Said all this, still I don't feel comfortable to start a real activity on any of my FB profiles, because the privacy settings are so complex, so cumbersome, and they even change with time, that I am afraid one day I could make a mistake.

I don't really want any person of my real life, or any of my serious girlfriends, or even any of the Colombian hookers I met in Cartagena or Medellin, to discover I have tons of girls in Indonesia. Not even I would like that my girlfriends may get in touch one with the other.

That's the profound difference. Nobody of the persons on my phone contact list can see who are the others. Could you imagine that?? The same paradigm is applied in Skype, WhatsApp, WeChat. Facebook is different. They WANT your friends get linked together, and anything to impede that is made cumbersome on purpose. Because it's a networking thing.

Well, I don't want my friends do network together. That's my private world. So, bubye Mr. Zuckerman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2106995]Since the age of consent in Colombia is 14, I wonder what she was charged with. Maybe there is something in the law about teacher / student. We all know a male can't be forced to have intercourse if he doesn't want to.[/QUOTE]She would be charged with sexual coercion.

Age of consent is 14 and the law has no stipulation that you must be close in age for it not to be a crime.

What the law does say is that it is illegal to have sex with anyone under 14 and that is is also illegal to coerce, intimidate or entice in anyway a person under the age of 18 to have sex or engage in any sex act. That is why it is illegal to pay a girl under 18 to have sex or to even to give her an unsolicited gift.

But this is all academic, because the minute a Colombian police officer catches a gringo with a minor. The gringo is going to be arrested and charged with sexual coercion. Just so they can take as much money from him as possible.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2107074]I'm not sure if you know. It doesn't matter what you do. FB uses a facial recognition algorithm and what will happen is frends suggestions will come across your normal life meaning your regular friends on your other or real identity. You have to make a decision. Chose the monger life or a straight life in FB. In the hacking world, its called contamination, if you go just once and only once, you have now breached your anonymity. Another example if your face has been tagged you can forget about it. One more advice, for all you who added your phone number to FB, well, that is being shared on an algorithm as well. Sorry if I scared anyone but you guys really need to know the facts.[/QUOTE]I just asked a few people (guys) who I am close friends with if they can see my Friends list and they say no. I've asked girls in my puta friends list (that's not what I name it) if they can see my pics of me and my kids or my college pics and they say no. The putas also cannot post on my wall and NO one can tag me unless I approve it. I have had many friends try. I'm sure if someone has the skills and are used to cracking into FB sections, they can, but I'm not really concerned with that level of intrusion. I'm concerned that my cousin or my HS Physics teacher can't see the pics of young Colombian girls in bikinis with the word "Citas?" across their stomach. And concerned that when I post Happy Bday to my mom, some puta won't post "Que linda, papi!

Keeping my fingers crossed!

Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!

In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

[/QUOTE]Any idea why. Anything at all you might have done in the airport that peaked their interest? There is the possibility they had a lead and description that someone was going to be smuggling but who knows.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!

In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.[/QUOTE]This has happened only ONCE to me in my 30 plus trips returning to the sates from Bogota and Medellin in the past 8 years, and it happened at MDE rionegro. Since then never a second question.

Yes it's the cuties that make me return twice or three times each year to MDE and I will spend next month of December in MDE. Some past regulars along with some new.

TTM.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions..[/QUOTE]Post your photo here and we may tell you why ROFL.

(just kidding. Don't be upset with me).

The heavy food / no weight gain thing has an explanation, two explanations actually. 1) Portion sizes and 2) physical activity instead of snacking in front of TVs in spare time.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!

In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107082]This is an area of much confusion that can get people in lot of trouble. The age of consent, same as in the US, means they can start having sex with others who are under 18. Two 16 year olds having sex is no problem. A 30 year-old and a 16 year old having sex is a problem.[/QUOTE]Colombian law is definitely not the same as in the USA, and it does not specify an "age difference" rule. See below:

(us gringos of course must abide by the 18 year old or older rule, by a US international travel law.).

The Criminal Code of Colombia (Act 599 of 2000) as it was modified by article 4 of law 1236 of 2008, sets the age of consent at 14, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

Article 208 states: El que acceda carnalmente a persona menor de catorce (14) años, incurrirá en prisióand de doce (12) a veinte (20) años.

Translation: Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person under fourteen (14) years is liable to imprisonment of between twelve (12) and twenty (20) years.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!

In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.[/QUOTE]Wow! That's rare these days.

They obviously suspected something.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs!

In other news def some cute girls in Medellin. Food on the heavy side-surprised they arent all fat! LOL.[/QUOTE]Was it your 1st trip?

They did that to me on my 1st trip, must fit the profile for a drug mule I'd guess.

Last 2 times no problem.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2107311]Got stopped in airport leaving medellin-went through all my stuff etc etc then had to go to back room and body scanned 3 times by 2 different people etc 10000 questions.

Totally disrespectful. Made me not want to come back-and I'm anti drugs![/QUOTE]Prior to the body scanning (X-ray?) were there any questions (verbal or written) regarding whether or not you had an x-ray due to broken bones within the past several months? I think I read over on TripAdvisor in the past that if you had recent x-rays due to broken bones, you wouldn't get the body scanning from Colombian authorities.

No, it doesn't seem like it could have been a routine check. Thank goodness he was not traveling dirty.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2107458]Wow! That's rare these days.

They obviously suspected something.[/QUOTE]

Hola Dudes,

I signed up for [URL]CC.com[/URL] and it finally paid dividends last week. This chica emailed me and came over to my place. Now, she was a "good from far, but a far from good". Still, she had a great body and more improtantly, a very accomodating personality. Sex was great! She asked for CIM. Had to oblige that request. Twice. She spent the night. Paid her 100 k plus taxi.

I had my amiga over again with the huge natural rack. When I first came here, I shy'the away from the chica dates at the apartment and opted for the chica casas or strip clubs. While I had some great sessions, nothing compares to having a chica over to your place for multiple sessions. Sex gets incremently better with each session. Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL. My point is you owe it to yourself to build that contact list.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2107481]Prior to the body scanning (X-ray?) were there any questions (verbal or written) regarding whether or not you had an x-ray due to broken bones within the past several months? I think I read over on TripAdvisor in the past that if you had recent x-rays due to broken bones, you wouldn't get the body scanning from Colombian authorities.[/QUOTE]Not, 3 cops came up at the security check point where they scan your carry on and said "follow me" to a back room with a conveyor belt ride thru X-ray machine, 3 guys were ahead of me, I went thru twice then the officer behind the desk ask me question for 5 minutes or so. "Why were you in Medellin, where did you stay, what did you do etc. " Also "What did I have for breakfast?" The entire thing was done in Spanish also as I speak it fairly well, not sure how much if any English he spoke.

Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.

First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.

Woke up the next morning and asked my buddies how much they paid for there girls and they said 750 k plus 190 k to the club to take them out. This is for each girl. I was like are you serious! I actually yelled at them for being idiots and paying that much. Yeah my friend got the hottest one there but my other friend who has bad taste got an ugly ***** that looked old as hell. I was in shock and just shook my head.

Next day I took my friends to Energy. Lineup was about 20 girls, they wanted 115 k for half hour or 140 for an hour so we all got a girl for an hour. I had plans to meet with my main chick from SA that I had the last time I was there but she told me that she has a boyfriend now and couldn't see me anymore. Sucks because I didn't line up more girls because I had planned to spend a few nights with her. That night we went around Parque Lleras and ended up at Club Gusto. Nice place with good music but the girls are costly. All the girls I talked to wanted at least 300, and I don't even know if they were talking about mil or US dollars. But we'll get into that later.

I was craving for a girl with big boobs so I found this Venezuelan girl, she wanted 600 k until 5 am, I talked her down to 400 k and I knew that was a lot I should be spending for a girl in Colombia but we had no other options.

Next day I had plans for a girl from photoprepagos, she was on her way and she kept messaging me and then voice messaging me and it was getting me a headache. I told her to stop voice messaging me because I couldn't understand her. She was trying to say she didn't know where in El Poblado I was at. I just told her nevermind and stay home. She message me back "Maldito hijo de puta".

That night we went to Club Gusto again, only one of us found a chick. He said that she wanted to 200. So me and my other buddy leave and walk around Parque Lleras. We find this two girls walking and we asked them how much they want and they said 200 k. We both agree, then my friend who is drunk starts smoking a joint he gets from his girl. We're walking and we walk past a big bright light and we see the girls faces and we're like hell no, these bitches are ugly. So we leave them and start walking. We head over to La Clinica, didn't see any chicas by themselves. Got a drink and left, caught a taxi and tried to get him to take us to Club Fahrenheit. He drives around, I think hes coked out because he keeps sniffing and wiping his nose, plus hes speeding and running every red light we past by. My friend is drunk in the back. The driver can't find the place so we're getting tired and I just tell him to take us home.

Next day we wake up and my drunk friend says he can't find his phone. He left it in the taxi. Bet that guy was happy. We track the phone and we see that its at a phone shop in Centro. We tried to get a taxi to take us to that place and the taxi driver says its dangerous for us to go there so he won't take us there. My friend is like fuck it, hes rich anyways so he took the loss haha.

I asked my buddy who had the girl last night how much you end up paying that girl, he said she asked for 200 but when it was time to pay he gave her 200 mil and she wanted to $200 US. Haha!! Tricky little sluts, and he said her pussy smelled after he ate her out. Guess there girls need to get some douche in there lives.

Trip ended up being a little expensive for my buddies because of the broken glass and loss phone. Sucked for me also because my SA girl wasn't available. Next time I would definitely try to line up facebook girls instead of trying to find them at a club. Didn't see that many free lancers walking around the park. Saw one who looked like Justin Beiber. Went to Guatape for a day and it was nice. Medellin is a beautiful city, I would rank probably number 1 from all the places I've been to. Can't beat great weather, food, cheap prices, and beautiful woman.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2107563]Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.

First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.

Woke up the next morning and asked my buddies how much they paid for there girls and they said 750 k plus 190 k to the club to take them out. This is for each girl. I was like are you serious! I actually yelled at them for being idiots and paying that much..[/QUOTE]Sounds like a solid adventure. Yeah, it is definitely important to brief the wingmen on the going rates and if push comes to shove, let the more experienced monger do the negotiating. Some of the prices paid were ridiculous. And I never criticize what people pay! But, it comes with experience I guess. Now I know why a girl from Instagram tried to get me to pay $300 USD for a 1 hour session. After I laughed my ass off and criticized her and broke down the pricing structure, she was down to $150 mil pesos plus taxi. Stick to your guns or move on. Unless (and this happens a lot) she is the baddest chick of your life, then, well--live a little! Just know, the next one might be the baddest chick of your life too! Such is life in Medellin.

Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.

Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.

Sho423-

Several times in my life I have encountered women with that vaginal smell. It is usually Vaginitis and it smells very bad. And like you I detected it during doggy style. Each time it happened I just flat out stopped. It is incredibly revolting. But to womens credit have a hole between your legs that is dark most of the time can invite the toughest of smells and bacteria. In addition I was always happy I was wearing a condom because any bacteria from a women can be transferred to you. It does not have to always be a std. I got Non-Gonococcal Urethritis from a blowjob once and it was the most painful thing I ever experienced. I am a 100% condom user since then-even for a BJ.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2107563]Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.

First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.

Woke up the next morning and asked my buddies how much they paid for there girls and they said 750 k plus 190 k to the club to take them out. This is for each girl. I was like are you serious! I actually yelled at them for being idiots and paying that much. Yeah my friend got the hottest one there but my other friend who has bad taste got an ugly ***** that looked old as hell. I was in shock and just shook my head.[/QUOTE]Great report of all the ways things can go wrong.

I'm sure the AirBnB host was fine with $400 for the door, it probably cost him $75 or less to replace. For $400 he could remodel the bathroom.

The crowds in Medellin are fickle. The club that was packed on Thursday might be dead on Saturday. Depending on the day, there are usually 6 to 15 girls working in and around Parque Lleras, not counting the ones in the clubs. You will find very few before 11 pm.

Many of the girls in Lleras will quote prices in dollars, because they assume gringos won't know any better. Too often they are correct. The correct response is to offer a price in pesos "en general pago ciento cincuenta mil más taxi. " When she answers with "200 dollars", tell her when she comes to the US you'll pay in dollars. Very few will stick to the $200 or $100 US price, if you talk with them.

I'm guessing your taxi driver either couldn't understand you, or figured you were too drunk to know better. Club Fahrenheit is in Itagui. It is right on autopista sur, just south of the Ayura metro station. Very few taxistas in Lleras would have problems finding it.

You and your buddies should consider paying a guide when you travel. Just a rough guess, your group overspent enough for 1 or 2 more round trip tickets to Medellin and half your time wasn't productive.

There's no good reason to pay an exit fee for a girl at Fase 2 or anywhere else. Fuck her on-site. If she's worth another go, get her number and offer to meet when she's not working for 190 k or double if you want her all night. If you sweeten the deal with drinks and dancing, most will consider it. With a 190 k exit fee you're paying more than most guys pay just to put her in a taxi.

Seriously, if you guys come back, pay someone to guide you.

SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2107563]Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.

First night we got there we decided to go out. We heard Babylon was great on Thursday so we went and it sucked ass. Not much going on so we went to Fase dos. 10 k each to get in and for some reason they told us we needed to buy a bottle so we did. I got a girl and went to the back for a total of 190 k, she asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said no thanks because I was being cheap and didn't want to pay an extra 30 k, plus I almost got screwed over last time buying a hooker a drink. She tried to screw me over with how much I gave for the drink so no thanks to that, haha! Took her to the back where the rooms were and we proceeded with DFK and DATY. She did CBJ, didn't bother to ask how much was for BBBJ. We proceeded to get it on, then I switched positions and did doggy and all of a sudden I smell a bad stench and I knew it was coming from her. Was still pounding away but I was about to vomit. I had enough of that and just acted like I cummed and sent her on her way. Went back inside where my friends were and saw they both had girls and were taking them out the club and back home. I tried to go to sleep early but was kept awake by one of my friends banging a girl in the restroom next to my room. Later on heard a big noise that sounded like ice falling on the ground. Got up and saw that the glass on the shower cracked and shattered. Not a good way to start the trip haha. We ended up telling the airbnb guy about it the day before the last we were there and he was cool about it and my friend only had to pay $400 US.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2107682]SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.[/QUOTE]I too agree with what you say but being young these guys want to do a little showing off. Kinda like being in vegas, throwing dollars around so they can get attention. Let it settle in but these guys don't understand that the girls don't give better service if more money is tossed in front of them. In fact they look at them as stupid. Yes, that is a fact, there is a colombian saying. Giving the papaya away. I hope these guys settle down and realized that. Like the story of the Bull and his son on the hill. Why run and see how many they can get when they can just walk down and get with them all. Running down is haste and throwing money to get attention.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2107563]Went to Medellin last week with a couple of buddies, this is my 2nd time going, first time I went I had a blast.

Trip ended up being a little expensive for my buddies because of the broken glass and loss phone. Sucked for me also because my SA girl wasn't available. Next time I would definitely try to line up facebook girls instead of trying to find them at a club. Medellin is a beautiful city, I would rank probably number 1 from all the places I've been to. Can't beat great weather, food, cheap prices, and beautiful woman.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you would have had a better trip if you left your buddies back at home! Drop their asses off in Vegas on the way to Medallo next time, lmao!

I understand some guys are naturally lonely and always need to be in the company of others. But on all my trips since moving from the Mansion to apartments, I don't talk to one gringo the entire time and always have a blast!

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2107682]SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.[/QUOTE]Not me, that's my buddies. They are rich so they don't care.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2107732]Sounds like you would have had a better trip if you left your buddies back at home! Drop their asses off in Vegas on the way to Medallo next time, lmao!

I understand some guys are naturally lonely and always need to be in the company of others. But on all my trips since moving from the Mansion to apartments, I don't talk to one gringo the entire time and always have a blast![/QUOTE]Haha yeah, I told them I was coming back and they wanted to come along butI told them I'm going by myself.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107678]Great report of all the ways things can go wrong.

I'm sure the AirBnB host was fine with $400 for the door, it probably cost him $75 or less to replace. For $400 he could remodel the bathroom.

The crowds in Medellin are fickle. The club that was packed on Thursday might be dead on Saturday. Depending on the day, there are usually 6 to 15 girls working in and around Parque Lleras, not counting the ones in the clubs. You will find very few before 11 pm.

Many of the girls in Lleras will quote prices in dollars, because they assume gringos won't know any better. Too often they are correct. The correct response is to offer a price in pesos "en general pago ciento cincuenta mil ms taxi. " When she answers with "200 dollars", tell her when she comes to the US you'll pay in dollars. Very few will stick to the $200 or $100 US price, if you talk with them.

I'm guessing your taxi driver either couldn't understand you, or figured you were too drunk to know better. Club Fahrenheit is in Itagui. It is right on autopista sur, just south of the Ayura metro station. Very few taxistas in Lleras would have problems finding it.

You and your buddies should consider paying a guide when you travel. Just a rough guess, your group overspent enough for 1 or 2 more round trip tickets to Medellin and half your time wasn't productive.

There's no good reason to pay an exit fee for a girl at Fase 2 or anywhere else. Fuck her on-site. If she's worth another go, get her number and offer to meet when she's not working for 190 k or double if you want her all night. If you sweeten the deal with drinks and dancing, most will consider it. With a 190 k exit fee you're paying more than most guys pay just to put her in a taxi.

Seriously, if you guys come back, pay someone to guide you.[/QUOTE]The airbnb host showed us the receipt of the glass, he was a nice guy, that temper glass in the you. S costs about $1000 to replace.

And I fucked my girl on-site at Fase, my friends wanted to take there girls back home, guess to feel more comfortable.

Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL.

So, you picked up a chick with a dick and you whacked off in front of each other?

To each their own I guess. HA!

There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business.

The only way this scam works is if they can keep you off balance. When you don't respond the way they expect, it puts them off balance. Every step you take away from their chosen spot, moves you farther away from danger. If weapons come out, give them what you have and get out of there. Otherwise just keep moving towards that next open business.

Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.

A couple of the Centro casas post signs on their exit doors warning about this from time to time. New Life had one up (maybe it still does) that describes the scenario very much similar to what's described here, right down to the bit about impersonating law enforcement. One of the two casas on Carrera 45 D also had a sign up. I've noticed sketchy looking guys hanging around at the corner of Carrera 45 D and calle 57 where they can watch foot traffic between Aiffe, New Life and the two places on 45 D. 45 D is tree lined and has very little foot traffic or vehicular traffic. There are usually uniformed police watching that street and I wouldn't be surprised if this hustle is the reason. So yeah, be aware of your surroundings. I grew up in a big city and I trust my instincts. I don't find it hard to notice people who are up to no good around the neighborhood. Most people are moving with a sense of purpose, but the stick up boys are not. This has been going on for several years by the way.

So Mr. L JjBee, why don't you tell us which casas and which locations so we know where to be extra careful. I think I already did that but I'm not the original poster.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi..[/QUOTE]

Good luck with that, let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2107572]Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.

Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.[/QUOTE]

Excellent post and information jbee62. Thanks for the heads up.

Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos. Gringos should take taxi and avoid street in Centro. Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business..[/QUOTE]Which Casa or Casas and was this during the day or night time?

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2107929]Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. It's just matter of time, and someone new, first-timer, maybe with poor Spanish skills, or simply naive and optimistic, who reads here and gets the impression it's everything easy, safe, quiet, etc. will get into troubles. I am not sure he will post his bad luck here, though. It happened already, I guess.

It's not safe, and it's not safe especially for those who have no clue of what is South America.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2107929]Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.[/QUOTE]That is wrong instead. Even if the concept of "hidden gem" is personal and must be personal (I have seen here photos of sleazy hookers posted and presented as "gems") there are indeed gems. But it's not easy, it's not for everyone, YMMV, and of course shit can always happen.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2107869]A couple of the Centro casas post signs on their exit doors warning about this from time to time. New Life had one up (maybe it still does) that describes the scenario very much similar to what's described here, right down to the bit about impersonating law enforcement. One of the two casas on Carrera 45 D also had a sign up. I've noticed sketchy looking guys hanging around at the corner of Carrera 45 D and calle 57 where they can watch foot traffic between Aiffe, New Life and the two places on 45 D. 45 D is tree lined and has very little foot traffic or vehicular traffic. There are usually uniformed police watching that street and I wouldn't be surprised if this hustle is the reason. So yeah, be aware of your surroundings. I grew up in a big city and I trust my instincts. I don't find it hard to notice people who are up to no good around the neighborhood. Most people are moving with a sense of purpose, but the stick up boys are not. This has been going on for several years by the way.

So Mr. L JjBee, why don't you tell us which casas and which locations so we know where to be extra careful. I think I already did that but I'm not the original poster.[/QUOTE]I would be thrilled to tell you, not only which casas, but also the street address and everything that was said, except it didn't happen to me. I just ended up having a beer with someone it happened to the evening after it happened. Mostly he was embarrassed about being caught off guard and not knowing how to handle the situation.

If I ask him and report the exact location, it will do more harm than good. Because there will be someone who sees the name of a casa and decides all he needs to do to be safe, is go to a different casa. When he's confronted by the same guys 2 blocks away, if he doesn't know what to do the result is the same.

Being safe in the streets isn't about avoiding 1 or 2 corners. It's not even about avoiding a certain area with known risks. On Sunday I spent most of the day on a semi-guided tour through a lot of barrios, including 1 where no monger should ever go. At no time did I feel the least bit uncomfortable and at no time was I in more danger than in Poblado. Because I know correct behavior.

It begins with dressing right. From a distance I'm just another Colombian, even though I'm an obvious gringo. Next, I know where I'm going. It doesn't matter if I've never been there before, I'm still moving towards a destination. There's no head scratching, no looking at maps, no gawking.

Don't draw attention to yourself. With few exceptions, thieves aren't looking for gringos, they're looking for someone they can confuse and dominate. If you are paying attention and moving with confidence, you're not a good victim.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2107572]Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.

Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.[/QUOTE]Part of what you say I recently heard from a Venezuelan girl, beautiful women everywhere selling themselves cheap. However, her report was that the danger is real. Right now there's a bad mix of anger and desperation.

Once the situation changes, it's probably going to be paradise.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've

Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the common sense big city anywhere advice. However more specific info would be much more helpful: How many guys? Which casa? Time of day? Uniformed?

Thanks, Hboy.

Police knows and condones about them. Police officers are quiet about them because they are on on the gangs' payrolls.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108014]I totally agree. It's just matter of time, and someone new, first-timer, maybe with poor Spanish skills, or simply naive and optimistic, who reads here and gets the impression it's everything easy, safe, quiet, etc. will get into troubles. I am not sure he will post his bad luck here, though. It happened already, I guess.

It's not safe, and it's not safe especially for those who have no clue of what is South America.

That is wrong instead. Even if the concept of "hidden gem" is personal and must be personal (I have seen here photos of sleazy hookers posted and presented as "gems") there are indeed gems. But it's not easy, it's not for everyone, YMMV, and of course shit can always happen.[/QUOTE]OK. Given that hidden gem is a subjective, rather than objective, term, walking streets for hours to find gems and not wanting to admit that you wasted times make the girls look hidden gems.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108014]I totally agree. It's just matter of time, and someone new, first-timer, maybe with poor Spanish skills, or simply naive and optimistic, who reads here and gets the impression it's everything easy, safe, quiet, etc. will get into troubles. I am not sure he will post his bad luck here, though. It happened already, I guess.

It's not safe, and it's not safe especially for those who have no clue of what is South America.
[/QUOTE]Again, there are those who think there balls are big and have the stupid gringo mentality of "I've walked the streets in so and so. " This applies to all in any city. It is called by chance. It increases dependent on many factors. Up to you but the many that contribute and advise on side of caution is for noobs benefit. Take VegesJeff, he is pretty good in Colombia, but even he says he has to take a side step to see what factors went wrong for him and I've walked some of those streets with him.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business.

The only way this scam works is if they can keep you off balance. When you don't respond the way they expect, it puts them off balance. Every step you take away from their chosen spot, moves you farther away from danger. If weapons come out, give them what you have and get out of there. Otherwise just keep moving towards that next open business.

Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.[/QUOTE]There was a guy a few years past who was doing this, now it looks like he may have a crew or a copy cats. Keep your wits about you. If you see the same guys hanging around when you come back out, walk back into the casa and talk with the jeffe's. Tell them and maybe they will confirm if go or no go. Waiting it out is safer than taking the risk to walk down the street. Always walk towards uniform officers on their bikes. Most of these copy cats will not have the means to copy an officers bike. If they do, that's a good imposter.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2107871]Good luck with that, let us know how you make out.[/QUOTE]It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2107929]Good post. Some irresponsible people recommend El Centro and the streets to gringos. Gringos should take taxi and avoid street in Centro. Basically there is no "hidden gem" in Centro.[/QUOTE]I think there used to be hidden gems in Centro. However, the area seems to be played out. You can still find something nice, but for most guys, it's not going to be worth it.

I agree with you on the irresponsible thing. Just because you go there a couple times with no problems doesn't mean it's safe for the next guy. The odds of something bad happening are much higher than they are in Poblado.

She had no dick DICK. Jerking off being a relative term, I. E. , masturbating and climaxing together. She was rubbing her wet box with one hand and sucking one of her double dee titties with the other hand. After she came, I jacked between her idylic set of fun bags. This debauchery of course took place after we banged during which she came a couple of times. Total damage for the night was 100 k plus taxi.

What JR should have been quoting, is it pays dividends when you have multiple sessions with a chica as opposed to the in and out centro casas. I wasn't hip to this when I first started coming here, but now see the value of the "Chica Date" angle.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2107746]Tonight, we both jerked off together. LOL.

So, you picked up a chick with a dick and you whacked off in front of each other?

To each their own I guess. HA![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2107572]Go to Venezuela? Caracas. I ask this question here, because like Caracas, Medellin still has this aire of being "too dangerous" to visit. While this aire is more imagined than the actual dangers in Caracas, I venture to think it MAY not be AS dangerous as many of us believe. I guess it comes down to your level of being risk averse. Many who monger often in Medellin warn of the dangers of El Centro. I grew up in very nasty places in New Orleans and El Centro doesn't scare me because I have always been on guard when walking the street there or anywhere else at night. Perhaps part of why I haven't experienced this danger is because I don't look like a "typical" gringo and know how to "mean mug" and walk with a purpose. Before I leave a place in Centro, I generally go into the bathroom stall, look at my map or whatever to figure out where I'm going and leave with those directions in my head.

Anyway, back to the point. Pussy is $7 an hour in Caracas and 3/4 star hotels go for $11 per night, sooo, yeah, I'm fucking thinking about it. Anyone else want to jump in on making plans for a trip March / April of next year? PM me.[/QUOTE]The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]

[URL]http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108189]
Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali.... [/QUOTE]I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.

The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning!

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2108222]I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.

The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning![/QUOTE]Cali does have have some beauties, I was there this past April, did not think too much of the city per se but then again I spent little time there HOWEVER my next city to visit was Buenaventura, what a hell hole, this was right before the riots.

TTM.

That's all good advice. I especially appreciate the idea of dressing to blend in. There is no excuse anymore for people who show up in wildly out of context clothing. We have the Internet and and street view maps that show exactly how people dress in different parts of cities.

On another note, to guys saying inexperienced travelers have to stay in Poblado or gringo hotels I agree it's true in some cases but that is not for everybody. As another poster said very well. YMMV. The message is be alert and use common sense. It can be misleading telling guys all is good in upscale neighborhoods. It's true the crime rate is generally much lower but there have been robberies and murders in Poblado and yes, the Mansion was stuck up by armed hooligans too. I'm guessing no one saw it coming except maybe a confederate working on the inside.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2108024]I would be thrilled to tell you, not only which casas, but also the street address and everything that was said, except it didn't happen to me. I just ended up having a beer with someone it happened to the evening after it happened. Mostly he was embarrassed about being caught off guard and not knowing how to handle the situation.

If I ask him and report the exact location, it will do more harm than good. Because there will be someone who sees the name of a casa and decides all he needs to do to be safe, is go to a different casa. When he's confronted by the same guys 2 blocks away, if he doesn't know what to do the result is the same.

Being safe in the streets isn't about avoiding 1 or 2 corners. It's not even about avoiding a certain area with known risks. On Sunday I spent most of the day on a semi-guided tour through a lot of barrios, including 1 where no monger should ever go. At no time did I feel the least bit uncomfortable and at no time was I in more danger than in Poblado. Because I know correct behavior..[/QUOTE]

Everybody has to decide for themselves. I am friends with a guy from Venezuela who got transferred to the US by his job a few years ago while Chavez was still alive. He goes home once or twice a year. He told me he wanted to go out to dinner and a sporting event in Caracas last time he was there but his family told him to forget about it because it is "way too dangerous."

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2108110]It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2108222]I did not think Cali that dangerous but that was just my perception. I met some very nice people from Cali (families) at a restaurant in Laureles last year. They sat with me because I was alone at a large table and the restaurant was otherwise full. They spoke highly of Cali, naturally, and said they thought it a better city than Medellin. I would like to visit because the Cali look is different than MDE and can be very beautiful.

The most beautiful woman I have been with in my life was from Cali. She was working Golden Time in Panama City. Unbelievable girl. So far out of my league, Stunning![/QUOTE]Almost all Colombians will say their city is the best, LOL.

Cali has some beauties for sure, I don't really like the city itself though.

I just feel better in Medellin, better climate, more green, overall nicer people IMO.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2108110]It is not about big balls and all that other shit. To me there is absolutely nothing wrong with downtown Medellin, Bogota, Rio. But when it comes to Caracas it is time to say FUCK THAT! 11 or so years ago I had a girlfriend in the hood in Caracas and I used to stay at her place. (This picture is from the beach that we used to go to near the airport. She lives in Panama now.) But these days I would not go around Caracas PERIOD. You would probably come out better going to Syria. Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. The $8 pussy and $11 hotels in Medellin suit me just fine.[/QUOTE]I read somewhere that the city is now ranked #1 on one of the business magazines as the most dangerous city. I think I will have to agree with your opinion as of current state.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108189]The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]

[URL]http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I was just talking about this with a bud on this topic this morning. You must have read the same report. For all those reading, I've been hitting TJ (#22) and many parts of that city and felt safe as long as I was not in Centro and kept my wits about me when I am. Never really had a bad incident other than the local monkees shaking me down. Hell, I now avoid the local monkees when I see them more than the locals because I may look like an easy mark.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108189]The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]

[URL]http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108189]The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.[/QUOTE]If you buy one Power Ball ticket your odds of winning are tiny. If you buy 100 tickets your odds are 100 times better but still tiny.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2108265]I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.[/QUOTE]This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.

The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.

In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.

La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".

"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.

Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.

There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of ​8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.

Medellin Safety Tips.

Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.

Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.

Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.

Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.

Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.

Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.

Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.

Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.

Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.

Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.

Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.

Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.

Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.

Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".

YK makes an excellent point. I would also add that there is more to the definition of "dangerous" than getting murdered. Who cares if you avoid getting murdered if you get killed in a car accident? Or would you consider a "safe" trip one where you did not get murdered or die in a car wreck but contracted hepatitis, yellow fever, malaria, or HIV? Or broke your ankle on a crappy sidewalk? Right now I am in a Latin Amrican town where I fear falling on the sidewalks or cobblestones more than getting murdered.

One thing I will say is that, as compared to the US with its random mass shootings, there is usually a reason underlying murders in LatAm. Fucking someone else's woman, getting involved with drugs, etc. , as opposed to minding your own business at a concert in Las Vegas or a church in Texas or a school in California or or or or or ...

I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2107682]SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.[/QUOTE]How can another guy ruin it for you? If some chica asks you to pay something that you don't want to pay, don't. Next!

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108281]
I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.[/QUOTE]That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobar’s grave or visit Gutape?

It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them!

Nah. Most of the places I go to monger are inherently interesting as well, at least for a couple of days. Bogotá has the gold museum, Zipaquirá nearby, Montserrate, etc. Quito has the funicular or cable or whatever exactly it is, up to the top of the mountain near La Linea. Panamá City sucks but has the canal to visit. Spain is a great place for mongering and anything else you want to do. Buenos Aires is a world class city with lots of art and yadda yadda. Bangkok is fascinating. Caracas has um I forget. Car exhaust. Lots of car exhaust is what I remember. But, I did not monger there.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2107740]Not me, that's my buddies. They are rich so they don't care.

Haha yeah, I told them I was coming back and they wanted to come along butI told them I'm going by myself.[/QUOTE]Most of us here make a good living or we wouldn't be able to pursue this hobby like we do. Most of us could easily give every chica we fuck 1 million or more pesos. But we don't because we're not stupid. There are many good reasons to not overpay even if the money is inconsequential for you.

[QUOTE=Combo;2108296]Most of us here make a good living or we wouldn't be able to pursue this hobby like we do. Most of us could easily give every chica we fuck 1 million or more pesos. But we don't because we're not stupid. There are many good reasons to not overpay even if the money is inconsequential for you.[/QUOTE]One good reason is that if I have 1 millions to [I]invest[/I] I will use it to enjoy a group of 10 girls, rather than just one with Princess attitude.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2108110]Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. .[/QUOTE]
Thumbs up for you! I guess not many regulars of the Medellin thread do know about LaDieciOcho in Guayaquil.

However, last time I visited La18, the prices were higher already: I may be wrong, but above $10 already, maybe $12.
I think that to find 600-penny pussies in Ecuador, we have to go back to the Old Golden Times reported by Tungurahua in Quito (everyone please stand up to show respect for the true Master of ISG).

Tungurahua, wherever you are now, I will never forget your stories.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108294]Nah. Most of the places I go to monger are inherently interesting as well, at least for a couple of days. Bogot has the gold museum, Zipaquir nearby, Montserrate, etc. Quito has the funicular or cable or whatever exactly it is, up to the top of the mountain near La Linea. Panam City sucks but has the canal to visit. Spain is a great place for mongering and anything else you want to do. Buenos Aires is a world class city with lots of art and yadda yadda. Bangkok is fascinating. Caracas has um I forget. Car exhaust. Lots of car exhaust is what I remember. But, I did not monger there.[/QUOTE]Buenos Aires used to be my second favorite destination in South America. Had some really great times there. Last visit was 2010. P4P has gone completely downhill there. Why? Hope Medellin does not head in that direction.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108393]

Thumbs up for you! I guess not many regulars of the Medellin thread do know about LaDieciOcho in Guayaquil. [/QUOTE]Is Ecuador a "recommend"?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108393]One good reason is that if I have 1 millions to [I]invest[/I] I will use it to enjoy a group of 10 girls, rather than just one with Princess attitude.


[/QUOTE]Diversify, you get better experience of the locals and not losing out on one if you make a bad decision.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2108430]Is Ecuador a "recommend"?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSJnO-tUORQ[/URL]

It's like Santa Fe in Bogota. A street full of brothels and hookers. I haven't been because I hear you have to show your passport to enter the chongos (brothels). You can find more discussion in the Guayaquil thread.

Recommend? Depends on your taste. It only interests me because of the sheer depravity of having so many hookers concentrated in one place.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2108430]Is Ecuador a "recommend"?[/QUOTE]Yes for the nature (on the Andes), not for P4P.

And if you go for leisure and some P4P, chongos, underground life, strictly avoid Guayaquil. Go to Quito.

Is Quito a recommend? NO, unless you are Tungurahua (but you are not, he's the One), but however better than anywhere else in Ecuador.

Are Ecuadorean girls pretty? 90% NO. Are they easy to bed? 99% NO!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2108456]
It's like Santa Fe in Bogota. A street full of brothels and hookers. I haven't been because I hear you have to show your passport to enter the chongos (brothels). You can find more discussion in the Guayaquil thread.[/QUOTE]This passport thing is new to me. I've been there many times, but not in the last 3-4 years.
I remember one door man in Guayaquil who asked me the passport before entering a popular chicabar one night. He said it's for security. I guess he just wanted $5 tip, as he let me in after receiving the token of appreciation for his concerns about my safety on site.

It has nothing to do with Santa Fe! If you want a similarity, it may be more like La Linea of Guatemala. It is ONE STREET, while Santa Fe is an area of several blocks. There are no clubs and strip bars. It's a place with WLs waiting for customers in their small rooms in the back. It was famous for being very dangerous ("cada DIA matavan a uno en la calle", a taxi driver told me, maybe just to be bombastic), but now I read there is a lot of police and was converted into something safer, but also not very interesting to visit, at least from the social point of view.

If you search the Guayaquil thread for my nick, you can find reports I wrote several years ago from La18.

The fee was, say, around $8 some years ago when I visited first, but then increased. That fee gives you a short session of mechanical sex. Nothing like what you are used to get in Colombia. I tried ONCE, and the other times I just had a beer inside one of the bars (bars are for beers, $1 each, not for girls).

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2108453]Diversify, you get better experience of the locals and not losing out on one if you make a bad decision.[/QUOTE]Yes, but maybe you did not understand I mean "10 girls all together all around me at the same time", instead of "10 girls one after the other". :P

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108275]This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.

The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.

In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.

La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".

"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.

Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.

There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of ​8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.

Medellin Safety Tips.

Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.

Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.

Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.

Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.

Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.

Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.

Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.

Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.

Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.

Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.

Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.

Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.

Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.

Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".[/QUOTE]What you've stated is by all means very sound advice. Most of the gringo's I see are always in shorts and flip flops and most of the time they are backpackers. I SMH every time I see them. To those who says I've walked the streets in "city", well, its a numbers game. The objective is to keep a low profile and keep your wits as this is about enjoying and being safe. We gringo's have a false sense of safety mainly because here in the US it normally is. BUT do not bring this to other places as crime is always around the corner and you just have to stay alert. When its late and dark, I always take a taxi and not random but using the app because you will know who is coming. I always look at my surroundings before getting into the cab or before it arrives so I can see who is watching, normally I look for 2 people on a motorcycle to see what they are doing. This is normally how they rob people. Look to see if there License plate is displayed on their jackets, if not, it normally is used to hide who they are. Be safe and keep your wits around you.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108465]If you search the Guayaquil thread for my nick, you can find reports I wrote several years ago from La18.

The fee was, say, around $8 some years ago when I visited first, but then increased. That fee gives you a short session of mechanical sex. Nothing like what you are used to get in Colombia. I tried ONCE, [/QUOTE]It must have been about 10 years ago when I went. I remember fucking a chick and she was playing with her phone. I said put that damn phone down. She said you are only paying $6. I guess I couldn't really argue with her on that. Later the driver of the taxi that I took out of La 18 took me to some strip clubs where there were little closets with beds in them at the back of the room and you could take a girl inside for $20.

With that being said, to me, if you are not going to Brazil then Medellin is the best thing going on this side of the planet for mongering.

Headed to MDE for the first time. Any can't miss parties or events going on? Anyone need a wingman?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2108418]Buenos Aires used to be my second favorite destination in South America. Had some really great times there. Last visit was 2010. P4P has gone completely downhill there. Why? Hope Medellin does not head in that direction.[/QUOTE]The short answer is years and years of a feminist president who did not understand Econ 101.

Howdy guys. First time here and possibly last as I rarely travel.

BUT What a city you guys have here. I have been here less than 24 hours and I already have a sore neck from my walks around Santa Cruz and Poblado. I am older and despite the multiple options, I prefer the lazy call girl to my hotel method.

That said, I dipped in tonight with what turned out to be an agency. Started with Colombia. [URL]topescortbabes.com[/URL].

I communicated off and on via WhatsApp with Daniella. (so I thought) She was very punctual and stunningly cute. That said, rules rules and more rules. I can only compare to stateside, so for the outlay it was fine.

I'm only here two more days. So I have a request, can you recommend one Casa, and one website or directory for a hotel girl?

I read back a ways here, but I probably not far enough.

P.S. I speak passable Spanish. But darn these Colombian dialect and speed makes me feel like I'm stupid at times.

Thanks guys.

It is my understanding that the current conservative president Macri, not CFK, began the crackdown on the brothels. I know this should be discussed on the Argentine thread though.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108563]The short answer is years and years of a feminist president who did not understand Econ 101.[/QUOTE]

Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:

I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:

1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).

4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.

5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.

6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.

7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2.

8. Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101.

*Can anyone recommend a hotel that is sort of central to me getting to these brothels? I also have a few ColombiaCupid hookups so the hotel needs to be girl friendly. And I don't want sparse accommodations. Something nice.

*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?

*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?

*Are the brothels open on Sunday?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2108793]It is my understanding that the current conservative president Macri, not CFK, began the crackdown on the brothels. I know this should be discussed on the Argentine thread though.[/QUOTE]Well, your understanding and me living there are probably two different things. CFK was still president when I left and almost all the clubs had been shut down already.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108844]Well, your understanding and me living there are probably two different things. CFK was still president when I left and almost all the clubs had been shut down already.[/QUOTE]Thank you, mine was misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2108822]Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:

I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:

1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).

4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.

5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.

6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.

7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2.

8. Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101.

*Can anyone recommend a hotel that is sort of central to me getting to these brothels? I also have a few ColombiaCupid hookups so the hotel needs to be girl friendly. And I don't want sparse accommodations. Something nice.

*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?

*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?

*Are the brothels open on Sunday?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]Don't forget the Love Motels located throughout Medellin, all are reasonably clean and safe and discrete, have at it for 3 or 4 hours in a comfortable setting.

Have fun and if your like me you wished that you had 5 dicks.

TTM.

You selected a pretty good representation. Most of them are in Centro so check for recommended hotels on this forum. The Nutibara is a nice compromise between the ultra low end and the nicer but farther away places in Poblado. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Showdown;2108822]Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:

I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:

1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).

4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.

5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.

6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Showdown;2108822]Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:

I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:

1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).

4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.

5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.

6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.

7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2..[/QUOTE]All that you have listed are fairly close together in El Centro, except for Energy which is west in Estadio. So no hotel is going to be convenient to everything.

Sparse accommodations is what you will be limited to if you want chica friendly hotels near the casas in El Centro. Being in El Centro might also hurt your chances with any CC hookups. They are looking to get out of the poor neighborhood.

You have 2 other options outside of El Centro, either Poblado or Laureles. Chica friendly is still going to be a problem, unless you go with an AirBnB, or other apartment rental. Taxis are reasonable.

Many of the casas are open on Sunday, but Energy is closed. Your best bet from the airport is either one of the white taxis for 65 k or to schedule with one of the women who provides airport transportation. Search the forum for Vico Zul.

Search the Medellin Hotels thread for apartment information.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108275]This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".

"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.

Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.

There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities..[/QUOTE]So out of 171 homicides in that time period 28 were in El Centro. However those were all Colombians, of the nine foreigners murdered in that time period we have: 1 in Beland, 1 in Estadio, 1 in Miranda, 2 in Laureles and 2 in El Poblado and one with no location given.

I have found Citibank gives the most $$s per transaction. This is important if your bank stateside charges a fee per transaction. In the past, I could pull 1. 5 mil pesos. Now, it seems to be capped at 1. 1 mil, around $360 usd. Hotel Nutibara seems to be the go to slightly upscale hotel in centro for mongers on this board.

Happy Chica Hunting!

Judd.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2108822]Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:

I've selected the brothels I would like to visit:

1. New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

2. Aifee (Around corner from New Life).

4. Paisa Relax Calle Balo Carrea 60.

5. Afrodita Calle Balo Carrea 45.

6. Paris Club Carrera 47 #56-34.

7. Zandalay (not far from Club Paris) Carrera 47 #57 a-34, piso 2.

8. Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101.

*Can anyone recommend a hotel that is sort of central to me getting to these brothels? I also have a few ColombiaCupid hookups so the hotel needs to be girl friendly. And I don't want sparse accommodations. Something nice.

*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?

*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?

*Are the brothels open on Sunday?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Showdown;2108822]Guys a few questions before I leave in a day:

*Would you agree that getting money from the Bancolombia ATM is the best place to get money after getting off of the flight?

*My flight is getting in very late. Is Uber or a taxi best bet from airport to my hotel?

*Are the brothels open on Sunday?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.

I have never tried to get Uber from the airport. I imagine it is very hit and miss. There may be a driver hanging around if he has just dropped someone off. Just outside the ATM's, to the right, there should be taxis. Most of them are white, but there may be some yellow ones there. They should have some official markings to indicate they are official. I don't think the airport allows gypsy taxis in that area. You will go past people outside of baggage claim asking if you want a taxi. I have never went with any of those, but my guess is they are probably gypsy drivers. There is a set rate from the airport to downtown. I think the white taxis are 60,000 and the yellow are 65,000. Confirm before you leave the airport. Either will take you directly to your hotel. Uber or a taxi is your best bet late at night.

Most brothels are open on Sunday, but not as many hours as other days.

[QUOTE=Differentdays2;2108660]I'm only here two more days. So I have a request, can you recommend one Casa, and one website or directory for a hotel girl?[/QUOTE]I realize this is a late response for you, since your timeframe is very short. I have never used a website, and very few casas. I have read many good reports of mileroticos ([URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]). I don't know enough about the casas to recommend any.

There are always uber cars available at the airport. They charge 40,000 to 50,000 to Poblado depending on traffic conditions. You can check their availability and get a fare estimate at any time, you don't even have to be in Colombia. If you use uber you know you can change your location or send a car for someone anywhere uber operates, from wherever you are.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2108950]It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.

I have never tried to get Uber from the airport. I imagine it is very hit and miss. There may be a driver hanging around if he has just dropped someone off. Just outside the ATM's, to the right, there should be taxis. Most of them are white, but there may be some yellow ones there. They should have some official markings to indicate they are official. I don't think the airport allows gypsy taxis in that area. You will go past people outside of baggage claim asking if you want a taxi. I have never went with any of those, but my guess is they are probably gypsy drivers. There is a set rate from the airport to downtown. I think the white taxis are 60,000 and the yellow are 65,000. Confirm before you leave the airport. Either will take you directly to your hotel. Uber or a taxi is your best bet late at night.

Most brothels are open on Sunday, but not as many hours as other days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2108953]I realize this is a late response for you, since your timeframe is very short. I have never used a website, and very few casas. I have read many good reports of mileroticos ([URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL]). I don't know enough about the casas to recommend any.[/QUOTE]Thanks that website proved legit for at least one gal.

Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.

Just got back to Paisaland after 3 mind blowing months in Brazil. Reports on relevant sub forums to come.

If any paid members wants to meet up for a beer or visit clubs together send me a message.

Happy to help newbies in town. Here until Jan '18.

That is really terrible news Mr. E. I'm sorry for your loss. Sixty-one is way too young for that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2109589]Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2109589]Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.[/QUOTE]I hope the news is on the side of natural causes and nothing to do with the locals. Peace be with him.

I want to go back to Colombia next year. I won't be staying at the mansion this time. It's too expensive. The area where the mansion is, how many hotels are in that area that are girl friendly for 30 a night. I will be calling a lot of escorts so they would have to be girl friendly. Would I have to go a lot further out from there to get a hotel for 30. Are apartments a better deal.

I found a hotel called Egina Medellin on trivago for 35 a night. Looks real nice. Do you know if this hotel is girl friendly. It says 1.6 miles to city center. I'm assuming that's near Poblado.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109777]I found a hotel called Egina Medellin on trivago for 35 a night. Looks real nice. Do you know if this hotel is girl friendly. It says 1.6 miles to city center. I'm assuming that's near Poblado.[/QUOTE]That hotel is in Laureles-Estadio, which is not close to Poblado. It is very close to the metro train. I have stayed in an apartment across the street from that hotel, and it doesn't have a chica friendly look to it. I can be completely wrong about that, though. That is a very nice area.

You are going to have to choose between being close to the Mansion or paying $30/ night. I think you best chance at staying near Poblado for that price and being able to have escorts coming and going is to rent an apartment. Be advised that in an apartment you are more responsible for your own security and for verifying your visitors. Plenty of girl friendly hotels are mentioned on this website. Why don't you make a list then look them up on trivago /[URL]hotels.com[/URL] etc?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109771]I want to go back to Colombia next year. I won't be staying at the mansion this time. It's too expensive. The area where the mansion is, how many hotels are in that area that are girl friendly for 30 a night. I will be calling a lot of escorts so they would have to be girl friendly. Would I have to go a lot further out from there to get a hotel for 30. Are apartments a better deal.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2109885]That hotel is in Laureles-Estadio, which is not close to Poblado. It is very close to the metro train. I have stayed in an apartment across the street from that hotel, and it doesn't have a chica friendly look to it. I can be completely wrong about that, though. That is a very nice area.[/QUOTE]Do I need to be in Poblado. I will be doing escorts and going to whatever massage parlors are near by anyway. What makes a hotel not chica friendly? The way the girl is dressed or no different girls every night. 35 is a good deal tho.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2109885]That hotel is in Laureles-Estadio, which is not close to Poblado. It is very close to the metro train. I have stayed in an apartment across the street from that hotel, and it doesn't have a chica friendly look to it. I can be completely wrong about that, though. That is a very nice area.[/QUOTE]Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.

Here is the link if someone wants TGOFTT and stay their first night there to try it out.

[URL]https://bookings.hotelpower.com/hotels/deals/travolutionary/4184016?CheckIn=02%2F06%2F2018&CheckOut=02%2F13%2F2018&Rooms=1&MetaSearch&AdultsRoom1=2&ChildrenRoom1=0&ChildAge1Room1=1&ChildAge2Room1=1[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2109589]Fuck man. Just got some bad news that a friend of mine just died while vacationing in Colombia. Nobody has any details yet. He was from California and was living in Thailand where I met him. I bought his motorbike from him when he decided to leave Thailand at the beginning of June. I think he was only 61 years old, and a corrections officer, so I doubt it was anything shady on his part.[/QUOTE]Damn Man. I'm In a state of suspended animation. Shocked. P last year, now him. Was just talking to him and he had just sent me some pics. We are still trying to find out what the whole story is. Be safe.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109926]Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.[/QUOTE]You really need to take some time and read the forum. Your posts show that you know almost nothing about Medellin. The key to a successful trip is preparation. All your questions have been answered many times. If you want a good trip go back and read.

You might find a place close to the Mansion for $45, but why would you want to be near the Mansion? There's nothing else in the area. There's only 2 massage places in Poblado. You'll pay much more than in El Centro and neither is close to the Mansion.

If you want a $30 hotel look in El Centro. On the plus side, you'll be very close to all the casas. On the down side, walking around at night might be a bad idea. Walking around in the daytime might make you nervous. You're also more likely to find chica friendly hotels in the area.

Your other option is to rent an apartment. Plenty of recommendations on the board for chica friendly apartments.

Staying near the metro is good if you are staying away from El Centro and want to save money. Tickets cost 2300 pesos. If you stay near Estadio, you can save about 10 k pesos each way to el Centro. Same if you stay in Poblado. Most people just spend the money for a taxi. The metro is also the quickest way to get around.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109777]I found a hotel called Egina Medellin on trivago for 35 a night. Looks real nice. Do you know if this hotel is girl friendly. It says 1.6 miles to city center. I'm assuming that's near Poblado.[/QUOTE]I stayed a few nights at the Suite Comfort in Laurles, $35 / nt no chica fees, just had to see her cedula. There are some Milerotico chicas in Laurles, I had one Maria Fernanda, was great and walking distance to the hotel. She said there were 4 chicas in her house. Good luck.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109925]Do I need to be in Poblado. I will be doing escorts and going to whatever massage parlors are near by anyway. What makes a hotel not chica friendly? The way the girl is dressed or no different girls every night. 35 is a good deal tho.[/QUOTE]An apartment would make more sense for you. Lots on airbnb. Also Poblado Rentals.

You don't need to be in Poblado. (Unless you have to be in an affluent, nice neighborhood).

If your building doesn't have a door person / registry, you have to make sure the chica has a legit ID (without exception!

[QUOTE=Combo;2109996]An apartment would make more sense for you. Lots on airbnb. Also Poblado Rentals.

You don't need to be in Poblado. (Unless you have to be in an affluent, nice neighborhood).

If your building doesn't have a door person / registry, you have to make sure the chica has a legit ID (without exception![/QUOTE]How do you know if its a legit ID and not a Traci Lords type ID. I check IDs in Mexico and assume they are legit but what the hell do I know.

Are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls a problem in Medellin? Do they set you up. Will a 17 year old come to purposely blackmail you or if they have a fake ID they hope you don't check and they go about their business.

I was thinking on the hotel front to book my first night at the hotel I mentioned for 35 and see if they are girl friendly. If not, I can call the poplado rentals and look at the apartments while I'm there so I know what I'm getting. Its hard to beat 35 a night free breakfast and maid service everyday at a hotel.

Hello everyone,

I am going to Colombia for the first time in January 2018. I've already booked my flight but have not booked anywhere to stay yet. I am going solo and will be in Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. I can't decide if I should get a hotel room or a place on Airbnb. Which would be more chica friendly? Any particular areas in the 3 cities that are better to stay at? I prefer to stay in areas that are safe and near nightlife. I'm looking for recommendations.

I have been to the Del Rey in San Jose, CR many times, and also the Marriott in Panama City. Any places like that in Colombia?

Thanks in advance and happy mongering.

If you want to be able to have girls come and go with no problem and you want to be near casas and pay about $35/ night, I think your best bet is the Hotel Nutibara or someplace like it (there are several). You have to be careful to avoid lonely streets after dark (always a good idea) but the front desk will take care of most of the security for you. That's the best recommendation I can make.

Maybe you want to stay at the Mansion a night or two to convince yourself it's ok to stay somewhere else? I ask this because I've seen an irrational (for me at least) connection with the place with guys who badmouth it heavily but refuse to stay anywhere else.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109926]Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.[/QUOTE]

Is there a brothel where after the session you can lounge with the ladies like a FKK in Germany? I perhaps would like to recharge and perhaps go for another round before I leave.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109926]Is being near the train better anyway. Will that get me to most of the massage parlors and strip clubs.[/QUOTE]The train will get you close to the massage parlors (Parque Berrio station). You should not take the train if going to the strip clubs, because you should not walk from the train station to the clubs at night. The train fare is less than $1. For about $1. 50, you can go to a massage parlor and return to where you are staying.

I have read some hotel reviews that indicate the metro train is noisy. They are electric trains, make very little noise.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2110020]Is there a brothel where after the session you can lounge with the ladies like a FKK in Germany? I perhaps would like to recharge and perhaps go for another round before I leave.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, there is a little bar there. I've seen locals come and drink with the girls but as soon as new clients enter, they all go to the room in the back and do their line ups. I've also seen couple of buddies just hang out with the girls before going and after with them at the bar.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2109925]Do I need to be in Poblado. I will be doing escorts and going to whatever massage parlors are near by anyway. What makes a hotel not chica friendly? The way the girl is dressed or no different girls every night. 35 is a good deal tho.[/QUOTE]You don't need to be near Poblado. I think many people recommend Poblado because of the safety factor. There are other safe areas, Laureles-Estadio and Envigado are two. Laureles-Estadio is probably better for you because it is closer to downtown and to where many of the chicas live.

Some of the hotels, and airbnb's, refuse to allow anyone into the room / apartment unless they are a registered guest. In those places, forget about taking your "date" to your room. Before making a reservation, always ask if they allow you to have guests and if there is a charge for guests. Some places that allow guests will request that they dress conservatively.

As others have replied, your best bet is probably an apartment. If you use common sense, and don't pick up street walkers, security is no more of an issue than any other place you rent. You can find airbnb apartments for around $40.

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This is all true. It's also not unusual to share the bar with a uniformed policeman enjoying a soft drink and chatting with the lady administrator. Girls at all the places are hit and miss but Zandaly's rooms and linen are of better than average quality, compared to the lower end room / linen quality of a place like Aiffe.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2110039]If I remember correctly, there is a little bar there. I've seen locals come and drink with the girls but as soon as new clients enter, they all go to the room in the back and do their line ups. I've also seen couple of buddies just hang out with the girls before going and after with them at the bar.[/QUOTE]

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[URL]https://www.instagram.com/vane.299/[/URL][/QUOTE]So will you list what they are accused of so we know to watch out for them? I noticed when I click on the links that some of them deactivated fb, others changed their names around. It is important we keep the guys on the board safe, especially some first timers which may find themselves in the company of potential trouble.

I'm very rarely bored while traveling. Even in airports I enjoy the watching and interacting with people from different backgrounds. Interesting people have varied interests. Beyond Guatape and Pablo Escobar's grave for example, there are several worthwhile museums in Medellin along with textile shops, restaurants and a long list of other things like the alliance Francaise where you can meet bright an inquisitive women. I think the most basic social skills can improve sessions with providers, but these are only my opinions.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2108291]That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobars grave or visit Gutape?

It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them![/QUOTE]

I had not been to New Life in several months. The other day I stopped in and noticed the attached sign posted on all the entrance and exit doors and under glass on every single waiting room table. Apparently these guys have been causing even more trouble recently. The guy is identified as the gang's ringleader. The sign describes the same basic scam as what's been reported here. As I mentioned, I've seen these guys for years and I've seen warnings posted about them at places besides New Life. The New Life sign specifically mentions the gang using illegal age workers as an excuse to engage with customers. New Life also vehemently denies the claim.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107850]There are a few guys hanging around near one of the casas in Centro robbing gringos. This just happened last week to a friend and I've heard other instances with the same MO.

They pretend to be police, and start asking questions. At some point they will ask to see your money to check for counterfeit bills. They may also ask to see phone or credit cards. By the time you realize you've been scammed your money and whatever else you had is long gone.

There are things you can do to avoid being a victim. The easiest is taxi in, taxi out. Of course if you're hitting 5 casas to find the right chica, this isn't convenient. Traveling in groups will also reduce your risk.

If you are going solo, look first. Before you step into the street and start walking, look both ways. Anyone loitering nearby? If so, step back inside and call a taxi. When you do step outside, walk with a purpose. If you make a note of open businesses on your way in, head for the closest. If someone tries to stop you, say "no gracias" and keep moving towards the next business.

The only way this scam works is if they can keep you off balance. When you don't respond the way they expect, it puts them off balance. Every step you take away from their chosen spot, moves you farther away from danger. If weapons come out, give them what you have and get out of there. Otherwise just keep moving towards that next open business.

Best advice, keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings.[/QUOTE]

Putas prepagos, login into Facebook and see.

Many with gringo friends or who liked their pictures.

= mansion girls or ex mansion girls.

Putas prepagos many on Facebook and Instagram.

[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2110110]So will you list what they are accused of so we know to watch out for them? I noticed when I click on the links that some of them deactivated fb, others changed their names around. It is important we keep the guys on the board safe, especially some first timers which may find themselves in the company of potential trouble.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2108487] With that being said, to me, if you are not going to Brazil then Medellin is the best thing going on this side of the planet for mongering.[/QUOTE]Weeeell, I don't know about that. With all due respect Mr. E, and allowing that everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, Bogota should not be ignored when it comes to mongering. While they certainly have some High End (High Price) venues available for P4P, there are plenty of options which start as low as 25-40 k pesos with equally high quality girls. Bogota, in my opinion, edges out Medellin in two crucial categories: 1) Density of chicas in a small area (Santa Fe). 2) Variety of girls from all over Colombia and many Venezuelans.

That said, a big advantage of Medellin is the FaceBook scene and the openness of non-pro Paisas to short term hookups. With a little seducing.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2110004]How do you know if its a legit ID and not a Traci Lords type ID. I check IDs in Mexico and assume they are legit but what the hell do I know.[/QUOTE]Because a person of age has a colombian cedula. Cedula needs to look like her. I suggest you even take a photo of it and email it to yourself if you don't know this person.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2108950]It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.

I have never tried to get Uber from the airport. I imagine it is very hit and miss. There may be a driver hanging around if he has just dropped someone off. Just outside the ATM's, to the right, there should be taxis. Most of them are white, but there may be some yellow ones there. They should have some official markings to indicate they are official. I don't think the airport allows gypsy taxis in that area. You will go past people outside of baggage claim asking if you want a taxi. I have never went with any of those, but my guess is they are probably gypsy drivers. There is a set rate from the airport to downtown. I think the white taxis are 60,000 and the yellow are 65,000. Confirm before you leave the airport. Either will take you directly to your hotel. Uber or a taxi is your best bet late at night.

Most brothels are open on Sunday, but not as many hours as other days.[/QUOTE]White taxis are more then yellow. I think you have it reversed. Banco Colombia fee is hidden inside the exchange rate but your right it's not much. Uber late at night from the airport is really the only way to go unless you have a personal driver. A lot of taxi's like to try and up charge for late night at airport when the police are off shift and not watching anymore.

[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2110110]So will you list what they are accused of so we know to watch out for them? I noticed when I click on the links that some of them deactivated fb, others changed their names around. It is important we keep the guys on the board safe, especially some first timers which may find themselves in the company of potential trouble.[/QUOTE]If you want safety, go to the mansion or a casa. Part of the fun of Medellin is that you can open almost any chick on fb without knowing if she is a "known" pro.

90% of the chicas I've banged down there since 2012 has come from me basically seeing them on fb, sending a friend request, chatting with them on messenger and asking if they would like to see me when I am in town. It's not 100% rate of success every time (some were looking for a relationship), but I would say 97% I close the deal.

You are not going to have the same unspoiled experience by always chasing after "proven pros" (the ones your buddy told you about and passed you her contact info, the ones you heard about here on a sex forum, etc.). I had gotten so good that I ended up fucking two sisters who I did not know were related until I realized they had the same last name and looked somewhat alike (one has the Pocahantas look and the other a blanca look). And when I asked one if the other was her sister, they didn't even know that the other had fucked me, hahaha.

I don't bother with the ones that have hundreds of gringos as friends and thousands more as followers. Most of those are the ones that have beta cucks fly them out to Cancun or to the US for weeks at a time. I like the ones that go to Uni or work and have lives outside of being full-time pros.

As for the danger part, not one incident with any chica since I've been going down there. Not even a verbal argument where she gets psycho and starts tossing shit all over the place. Nothing. And I bang at least 10-12 chicas per trip with multiple repeat sessions with my favorites. Just lock your shit up, keep chicos out of your mix (guys promising to find you chicas) and stay away from anything illegal by Colombian standards. The overwhelming problems your read about happens when chicos get involved, and the majority of the time they are involved is when you are looking to get into some illegal shit. You also run into problems inviting multiple chias over at once. It's one of the reasons I don't room with anyone else even if I am traveling with them. Last thing you need is for your wingman to be passed out drunk in the other room and his girl gets up and opens the main door to let her homies in while you are in the back room getting your dick wet with your chica.

Rant off, LOL.

UPDATE: one of the links to to Yami. I did fuck Yami, lol. She has a butterface (everything is banging about her but-her-face). Does have a bit of vag ordor that she is infamous for (maybe she got that worked out now?).

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2108950]It is very convenient to get money from the Bancolombia ATM's at the airport. When you exit baggage claim, stay inside the airport past the first exit doors onto the sidewalk. Less than 100 feet past those exit doors, there are two Bancolombia ATM's on the right side. Last week, I got 600,000 COP (about $200). I tried to get another 600,000, but it refused. Bancolombia does not charge any fees for using their ATM's.[/QUOTE]If you want to get cash at the airport, there are a few different ATM's on the upstairs (departure) level. When you walk out of baggage past the double door where the families wait for their loved ones, keep going straight and take the stairs upstairs. There is a Citibank ATM, Banco Colombia, Banco de Bogota, and more if I remember.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2110449]

I don't bother with the ones that have hundreds of gringos as friends and thousands more as followers. Most of those are the ones that have beta cucks fly them out to Cancun or to the US for weeks at a time. I like the ones that go to Uni or work and have lives outside of being full-time pros.
[/QUOTE]There's honestly so much available cheap pussy in Colombia, that in time, I too have learned to focus on one is folly. All it does is cost more $$$ and cause more drama.

[QUOTE]
UPDATE: one of the links to to Yami. I did fuck Yami, lol. She has a butterface (everything is banging about her but-her-face). Does have a bit of vag ordor that she is infamous for (maybe she got that worked out now?).[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I love how she has a boyfriend now in her fb photos. I guess some guys don't care if half the planet has banged their girlfriend.

EDIT: Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2110529]Hahaha. I love how she has a boyfriend now in her fb photos. I guess some guys don't care if half the planet has banged their girlfriend.[/QUOTE]You have to remember that not everyone meets a person on the same terms that you met them. You may meet a girl in a brothel and the next guy may meet her at church.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2108291]That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobars grave or visit Gutape?

It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them![/QUOTE]Hey, when it's 10 degrees F where I live, being able to walk around in nice weather and eat and drink outdoors is a great thing. Having beautiful chicas available is just icing on the cake.

And while MDE may not offer alot of typical tourist activities, IMO any metro area with 4. 5 million people can't be that boring.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2110438]Because a person of age has a colombian cedula. Cedula needs to look like her. I suggest you even take a photo of it and email it to yourself if you don't know this person.[/QUOTE]What do you mean take a photo of it and email it to myself. I'm asking is do most [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girl use a good fake ID like Traci lords did. She was able to get a US passport with her fake papers. Are good fake ids rampant out there. Should I be worried.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2110529] Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.[/QUOTE]Yeah I LOL'ed at that too, "Hooker / Day-trader!

Why are you outing "putas" on a board dedicated to prostitution? Isn't that, like, 'tarded?

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EDIT: Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.[/QUOTE]What happened to her fragrance line / store?

Not that I really care, but I don't know why she didn't decide to dive deeper into the fitness world. When I first came across her in 2012 when she and her friend would stay in that room on the bottom floor of Mansion II, she was a skinny, nasty-looking coke head. She later cleaned up and got into fitness and developed a banging body. That was when she finally peaked my interests and I decided to take her for a spin.

But I guess when you are able to have some chump fund whatever you are into, then there's really nothing to lose from her perspective.

Hundreds of putas ok Facebook and IG from.

Medellin Bogota Cali. Enough for everyone.

Get their whatapp, easier stay in touch.

Find a few and see all their friends most.

Available.

Avg girls nothing special = casas, massage.

Above average = Fase Dos.

Models = instagram, and available if able to get in touch.

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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2110797]What happened to her fragrance line / store?

Not that I really care, but I don't know why she didn't decide to dive deeper into the fitness world. When I first came across her in 2012 when she and her friend would stay in that room on the bottom floor of Mansion II, she was a skinny, nasty-looking coke head. She later cleaned up and got into fitness and developed a banging body. That was when she finally peaked my interests and I decided to take her for a spin.

But I guess when you are able to have some chump fund whatever you are into, then there's really nothing to lose from her perspective.[/QUOTE]I don't even know the chick but I can tell you that there is a reason most are hookers. For one, they lack the fortitude and perseverance to stick to anything besides hooking. For two, a fragrance line and fitness world takes business sense, time, and money to build up clientele, whereas hookers are addicted to fast money. Remember we are not talking about the greatest academic or commercial minds. We are talking about flat-backers. In a few years she will not be the head of some great company. She will be cleaning hotel rooms or selling fruit on the street. (Had to stick that last one in since yesterday I saw an old hooker that I used to fuck here in Thailand out pushing a food cart. She was trying to sell me a cup of coffee when she used to be up in the club trying to sell pussy!)

They post pictures of all their travels.

All over the world.

And they get to travel by earning tons.

Of money by selling weight loss pills.

LOL suuuuuuuuuure.

PREPAGOS.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2110797]What happened to her fragrance line / store?

Not that I really care, but I don't know why she didn't decide to dive deeper into the fitness world. When I first came across her in 2012 when she and her friend would stay in that room on the bottom floor of Mansion II, she was a skinny, nasty-looking coke head. She later cleaned up and got into fitness and developed a banging body. That was when she finally peaked my interests and I decided to take her for a spin.

But I guess when you are able to have some chump fund whatever you are into, then there's really nothing to lose from her perspective.[/QUOTE]How tastes differ! I also first met her in 2012 and in no time since then would I have paid a cent to bone her. Every visit I see guys lining up to do her. There must be 200k chicas more attractive than her in Medellin!

Is there something magic she does w her vagina?

[QUOTE=Combo;2110825]How tastes differ! I also first met her in 2012 and in no time since then would I have paid a cent to bone her. Every visit I see guys lining up to do her. There must be 200k chicas more attractive than her in Medellin!

Is there something magic she does w her vagina?[/QUOTE]Good thing for you that you can never miss what you never had, right? Hehehe 😉

I can only speak for myself, but I've always had a thing for fitness babes. Had she not made the transformation from scrawny coke head to the hardbody in the photos attached, I still would have never given her a second thought.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2110816]In a few years she will not be the head of some great company. She will be cleaning hotel rooms or selling fruit on the street. (Had to stick that last one in since yesterday I saw an old hooker that I used to fuck here in Thailand out pushing a food cart. She was trying to sell me a cup of coffee when she used to be up in the club trying to sell pussy!)[/QUOTE]Sometimes they land on their feet. One gal everyone was crazy for here way back when named Wendy (never had her) had some guy marry her and buy her a store in a mall to sell clothes.

I like Gogo's story not to long ago about some gringo buying an ex-Sosua pro a beauty salon:

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2107347]
One guy was sending his girl in La Vega 500 usd a month and visiting every three months. His girl got bored and said she wanted to work in a salon doing nails and massage. He liked that she wanted to make honest money but never told him it was in Sosua. We are sitting at a club in Sosua and this newbie showed us pictures of a girl he banged in a massage parlor. It was our girl from La Vega. Someone told him and guess what he does? He buys her a salon in la Vega thinking that would stop her from tricking.
[/QUOTE]You can always count on a cuck to do clean up on isle six, LOL. Unless she is fat. Fat women are invisible.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2110840]Good thing for you that you can never miss what you never had, right? Hehehe 😉

I can only speak for myself, but I've always had a thing for fitness babes. Had she not made the transformation from scrawny coke head to the hardbody in the photos attached, I still would have never given her a second thought.[/QUOTE]Never been to the mansion but wouldn't kick her out of bed unless there was more room on the floor!

[QUOTE=Combo;2110825]How tastes differ! I also first met her in 2012 and in no time since then would I have paid a cent to bone her. Every visit I see guys lining up to do her. There must be 200k chicas more attractive than her in Medellin!

Is there something magic she does w her vagina?[/QUOTE]I was one of those guys lining up to see her, and I think she was worth every penny I gave her. It turned out she was not that good in bed but she was cute in my book, and looked awfully sexy. At the very least, better looking and more presentable that many girls that were showing up at the mansion.

Her tits look fake. That is a deal breaker for me, especially when the cost north of 150 K.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2110840]Good thing for you that you can never miss what you never had, right? Hehehe 😉

I can only speak for myself, but I've always had a thing for fitness babes. Had she not made the transformation from scrawny coke head to the hardbody in the photos attached, I still would have never given her a second thought.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2110903]I was one of those guys lining up to see her, and I think she was worth every penny I gave her. It turned out she was not that good in bed but she was cute in my book, and looked awfully sexy. At the very least, better looking and more presentable that many girls that were showing up at the mansion.[/QUOTE]The Tall Man will spend the month of December in MDE and need to comment just how many of my past paisa girls both on whatsapp and facebook are contacting me, yes Christmas is here and they all need some spending money for gifts.

To each his own, this gal looks cute but not my type, believe it or not, sometimes I wish that I did not have such a taste for really good looking chicas, if I did not, and if my brain could accept lets say a 5 or 6 god the world would open up.

It is all in the hunt.

So I look forward to bringing some Christmas cheer to my paisa girls.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2111055]Her tits look fake. That is a deal breaker for me[/QUOTE]Didn't cross my mind when I sprayed them with my jizz, lmao

This afternoon I got to enjoy watching a botched robbery attempt. I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't the target of the attempt, but at least it didn't cost me anything.

I was walking south along the metro line, about 2 blocks north of Hotel Nutibara, on my way to Parque Berrio metro station, roughly halfway between Prado and Berrio. Just before I got to a spot where the sidewalk becomes very narrow some guy ran past me to get in front of me. At that point there should have been nobody behind me and nobody in front of me, since the guy appeared to be in a big hurry.

Just as I realized the running guy was moving very slow in front of me I noticed 2 guys closing in behind me. The guy in front stopped suddenly and dropped a lighter. He knelt down and fumbled on the ground and the other guys closed in tight. When I felt the guy trying to grab my leg, I took a big step back, got free of him and yelled at him. The guys behind weren't expecting that and ended up in front of me, facing the wrong direction with everyone in the area looking at them. They moved a little further and tried again, but I was 3 steps behind at that point.

I gave them plenty of room and got where I couldn't be closed in. After conferring for a few seconds they moved back the way they came.

During the day pickpockets are the biggest problem there. Try not to let people get too close and keep aware of your surroundings. Be safe.

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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2111210]This afternoon I got to enjoy watching a botched robbery attempt. I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't the target of the attempt, but at least it didn't cost me anything.

I was walking south along the metro line, about 2 blocks north of Hotel Nutibara, on my way to Parque Berrio metro station, roughly halfway between Prado and Berrio. Just before I got to a spot where the sidewalk becomes very narrow some guy ran past me to get in front of me. At that point there should have been nobody behind me and nobody in front of me, since the guy appeared to be in a big hurry.

Just as I realized the running guy was moving very slow in front of me I noticed 2 guys closing in behind me. The guy in front stopped suddenly and dropped a lighter. He knelt down and fumbled on the ground and the other guys closed in tight. When I felt the guy trying to grab my leg, I took a big step back, got free of him and yelled at him. The guys behind weren't expecting that and ended up in front of me, facing the wrong direction with everyone in the area looking at them. They moved a little further and tried again, but I was 3 steps behind at that point.

I gave them plenty of room and got where I couldn't be closed in. After conferring for a few seconds they moved back the way they came.

During the day pickpockets are the biggest problem there. Try not to let people get too close and keep aware of your surroundings. Be safe.[/QUOTE]

I will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks and unfortunately I have a late flight. My flight doesn't land until 11:40 PM. I plan on taking a cab to my hotel and I would like to head to Parque lleras for some action. How safe is it to travel late hrs? Is Parque lleras safe late hours?

It is a very bad area even for locals let alone gringos. Also, trannies there are very malicious and they use organized tactics to assault and rob the people. The area is an anarchy, no-law zone. All the self-claimed "street savvy" gringos I knew had troubles there eventually. Overconfidence, excessive risk-taking, and ignorance will be very costly in Centro.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2111210]This afternoon I got to enjoy watching a botched robbery attempt. I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't the target of the attempt, but at least it didn't cost me anything.

I was walking south along the metro line, about 2 blocks north of Hotel Nutibara, on my way to Parque Berrio metro station, roughly halfway between Prado and Berrio. Just before I got to a spot where the sidewalk becomes very narrow some guy ran past me to get in front of me. At that point there should have been nobody behind me and nobody in front of me, since the guy appeared to be in a big hurry.

Just as I realized the running guy was moving very slow in front of me I noticed 2 guys closing in behind me. The guy in front stopped suddenly and dropped a lighter. He knelt down and fumbled on the ground and the other guys closed in tight..[/QUOTE]

So I'm planning to go Medellin late December, and staying Laureles area. I found several airbnb around $40 60 range and they are chica friendly.

Hotel Dorado La 70 is $43 per night with breakfast included. Have Anyone stayed this hotel? Is the hotel chica friendly without extra charge?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2111055]Her tits look fake. That is a deal breaker for me, especially when the cost north of 150 K.[/QUOTE]They are definitely man-made, no mistaking that fact if you see them uncovered. IMO, she had them made too large, but it is her body. I liked her natural tits, a little small but an almost perfect shape.

Some people have mentioned an odor she has down below. I have been with her a few times, and there was never an odor. Could she be like a skunk, and use that as a defensive mechanism! Every time I have seen her, she has been very nice. I go back in time with her to when she and Wendy were running mates.

Can we please start posting in the Med Chit-chat thread if it is not trip report related?

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2111212]Katty Velez Best mansion or ex mansion girl.

Si agree??[/QUOTE]Is she back in play? She was active a few years ago, then completely dropped out of the scene, closing down her FB page and not answering messages. It may have to do with not getting approved for a tourist visa to the USA.

Ana Maria was an cute good looking semi-prepago from social level ( 3 out of 6, 6 being the upper class).

She was already before known to be awesome, and it was about when she was going for the big $$$ to be awesome $$money / 9,9 according to her halfsister, also famous on ISG by / via her 100% perfectioned toned body, Yerladin) and compliant // complaciente / with her magical doctor after becoming a +10, she filed for divorce. Now she is making a a model career on YOUTUBE. Of course, it's just to get the attention of, what we extranjeros calls " narcos", whom invite 11 girls to a Finca de Luxe and party for a long weekend, a lot of drugs and alcohol etc. Ana-maria how much does she makes? I have friends, girlfrins paisas, but it's a lot of prestige how much each girl is payed, so they aviod the subject. But 1-2 millions COP a day since the more a narco pays and the more exclusive he and the prepago are, the higher prestige in the narco-circle.

2 Million each weeakend + some other meetings makes +10 million a months.

That's super.

However, the Mexicans want these girls and you can't say NO.

She will make much much more at a Hacienda in a remote place in MX. But for a limited time. And during 1-5 years she is a slave. A lot of girl gets executed. For minor offensives, like just saying "fuck you", Mexican has a violent since 1000 years or more, and they are still respectless of human life. This according to History and a famous a internationally rewarded writer.

Medellin is harsh, but it's here the very very pretty girls lifes, born and moved to the Colombian sex-capital, if you excuse me for Cartagena and the Clocktower, Cafe del Mar and the findings of member Camaro or Camaro128, you'll find him and this breakthrough Cartagena reports. From 2013/15.

I want to know; have you guys XXX Ana-maria Cordoba or her halfsister yeraldin.

I had two super long sessions with yeraldin. Unfogettabbles. I had to erase the photos in my laptop since acafetera was coming to visit me, she lives in Spain..., but, sorry, without a face here is yeraldin. Her face is a +8-+9.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2111530]Is she back in play? She was active a few years ago, then completely dropped out of the scene, closing down her FB page and not answering messages. It may have to do with not getting approved for a tourist visa to the USA.[/QUOTE]Hi putas always available. Just timing depend. Break up with boyfriend or need money. Many now going away from facebook and more instagram.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/marcela.velez.7967[/URL]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2111212]Katty Velez Best mansion or ex mansion girl.

Si agree??[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting Instagram girls! I've made good contacts with a few. Will report if I session with any! Keep 'them coming.

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2111444]I will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks and unfortunately I have a late flight. My flight doesn't land until 11:40 PM. I plan on taking a cab to my hotel and I would like to head to Parque lleras for some action. How safe is it to travel late hrs? Is Parque lleras safe late hours?[/QUOTE]The airport road is safe, however is recommended to travel during day time. Pre-book a pick up with your hotel. They will gladly arrange for it. The standard rate is 70 K including tolls of 10 K each way, everything up is a premium for your safety. They may also send an Uber driver or someone they can trust and work with daily. Park is very safe on the perimeter, and safer on weekends. Take a cab to the park and back late night.

Little half sister Yeraldin [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/una-escort-preciosa-completa-dispuesta-a-todo-para-que-la-pases-bien-y-la-recuerdes-por-siempre-id-2ypj2[/URL].

Hermana mayor Ana-Maria Cordoba, the (former) model star [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX0HIgpCuLw[/URL].

[QUOTE=Questner;2111646] They may also send an Uber driver or someone they can trust and work with daily.[/QUOTE]Yeah, or they may send some random asshole.

Any know if Marcela Rios is a TS? I'd avoid her and all her friends if so. No cleavage pics and her body shape is sketchy. Pretty face though.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/marce.riox[/URL]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2110529]There's honestly so much available cheap pussy in Colombia, that in time, I too have learned to focus on one is folly. All it does is cost more $$$ and cause more drama.

Hahaha. I love how she has a boyfriend now in her fb photos. I guess some guys don't care if half the planet has banged their girlfriend.

EDIT: Hahaha. I think she's trying to act like she does bitcoin trading or some shit with her public photos. Hilarious.[/QUOTE]I remember about 3 years ago she let me visit the islands and CIP. And yes very butter face!

[QUOTE=Ezkesey;2110014]Hello everyone,

I am going to Colombia for the first time in January 2018. I've already booked my flight but have not booked anywhere to stay yet. I am going solo and will be in Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. I can't decide if I should get a hotel room or a place on Airbnb. Which would be more chica friendly? Any particular areas in the 3 cities that are better to stay at? I prefer to stay in areas that are safe and near nightlife. I'm looking for recommendations.

I have been to the Del Rey in San Jose, CR many times, and also the Marriott in Panama City. Any places like that in Colombia?

Thanks in advance and happy mongering.[/QUOTE]No there is no open pick up places like that at all in Medellin. Most of the contacts are made online.

Conveniently located close to the metro station, Estadio. But breakfast is rather Spartan, limited, limited choices. Not bad for the price, though.

[QUOTE=Kys1180;2111459]So I'm planning to go Medellin late December, and staying Laureles area. I found several airbnb around $40 60 range and they are chica friendly.

Hotel Dorado La 70 is $43 per night with breakfast included. Have Anyone stayed this hotel? Is the hotel chica friendly without extra charge?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2110529]There's honestly so much available cheap pussy in Colombia, that in time, I too have learned to focus on one is folly. All it does is cost more $$$ and cause more drama.
[/QUOTE]God this is a truism statement, we all know that Paisa girls are all drama but I am dealing with this one girl in MDE that I met once back in September and she hounds me daily with drama. I don't want to block her from whatsapp as she is very pretty 18 yo who have a fresh body and a very pretty look and when I bone her she looks and gazes so deep into my eyes that I have a connection at that time that I seldom experience, but is all the drama worth it? I will let you know next week.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2111652]Yeah, or they may send some random asshole.[/QUOTE]LOL yes. I never understand why people doesn't simply take a regular taxi from airport.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2111863]LOL yes. I never understand why people doesn't simply take a regular taxi from airport.[/QUOTE]They would rather pay 70 or 75 k instead of the 65 k posted rate.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2111863]LOL yes. I never understand why people doesn't simply take a regular taxi from airport.[/QUOTE]Heck, I don't understand why they don't take the $3 bus, then hop a cab from town, on that narrow windy road from the airport I feel safer in the bus.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2111917]They would rather pay 70 or 75 k instead of the 65 k posted rate.[/QUOTE]I think some people just feel comfortable having an arranged ride waiting for them at the airport.

I've never heard of MDE airport taxis being a threat. As Wolf pointed out, the biggest danger might be that taxi driver veers off that winding mountain road. For that reason, taking the bus is probably the safest option.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2111652]Yeah, or they may send some random asshole.[/QUOTE]Breaks service guys likely make a good living. The only issue I noticed was speeding. They race like madmen. Anyway, here is the official quote from travel. Gc. Ca on Medellin: 'Try to arrive at Medellíand's José María seeórdova International Airport during the day to avoid the road from the airport to the city after dark'. As for others advising on taking a bus, I have low tolerance for this BS.

'The only issue I noticed was speeding. They race like madmen.' Right, and that is how you can get killed before you even get to enjoy your destination, and it is not enjoyable even if you do not get killed.

So what exactly is 'BS' about taking a perfectly good bus? I have taken the bus to or from airports in dozens of cities, maybe even 50, including Medellín, and definitely think it is safer crash-wise than a cab or similar private car. It could also be safer from a robbery standpoint, although that would depend on where it dropped you off. Although, a truly civilized country would have a train station in the airport, such as Frankfurt, Barcelona, Madrid, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Toronto, etc.

And, of course, almost all US airports have train stations in them as well. Not.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2111659]Any know if Marcela Rios is a TS? I'd avoid her and all her friends if so. No cleavage pics and her body shape is sketchy. Pretty face though.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/marce.riox[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL.

I have never been with her but have seen her at the mansion.

If I didn't have better things to do at the tmie I would have taken her for a spin.

Face to face she is attractive enough.

I'm sure if she was a TS girl someone would have complained at the Mansion. LOL.

Besides from the looks of her facebook page she has children.

This mansion chick is a slightly better looking and is capable of giving an extremely good GFE.
300k TLN and no pop limit....I have banged her up to four times in an night. And always willing to please.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003857383032

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2111859]God this is a truism statement, we all know that Paisa girls are all drama but I am dealing with this one girl in MDE that I met once back in September and she hounds me daily with drama. I don't want to block her from whatsapp as she is very pretty 18 yo who have a fresh body and a very pretty look and when I bone her she looks and gazes so deep into my eyes that I have a connection at that time that I seldom experience, but is all the drama worth it? I will let you know next week.

TTM.[/QUOTE]You can mute in Whatsapp and even set it to only display the notification but not make a sound. For chicas who are chatter boxes I just completely mute them then check just once a day when I feel like having a chat.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2112028]LOL.
I have never been with her but have seen her at the mansion.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I did see the "children" pic, but there was no caption so I wasn't sure if it was some sister's kids or whatever.

Anyways after being mislead by TS's in SE Asia a couple times I'm paranoid about these things LOL.

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2111444]I will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks and unfortunately I have a late flight. My flight doesn't land until 11:40 PM. I plan on taking a cab to my hotel and I would like to head to Parque lleras for some action. How safe is it to travel late hrs? Is Parque lleras safe late hours?[/QUOTE]Get your hotel to send a trusted driver, or take a marked taxi. You can take pics of the license plate and cab # on the side of the door, and pretend your are texting it to someone. I've seen some of the girls do that, as they said women there get raped by cabbies all the time. They do that to greatly reduce their risk of the taxi guy plotting something. I've been there many times, have not had much trouble. Parque Llleras is the "Safest" of the zones, but I wouldn't consider any big city "SAFE" anywhere in the world. Steer clear of "cheap casas" in places like El Centro, which is a district you DO NOT want to be in unless you speak fluent Spanish and look like Danny Trejo. Even then, I'd advise you to bring a few wing men, only go during the day, and still keep your head on a swivel.

Your biggest risk in Medellin is crossing the street on foot and getting hit by a cab. Unlike the United States, if you step out in front of car, even on accident, the car has the right of way, not a person. So in other words, if there is a crosswalk, do not assume cars will stop for you or even bother braking. They won't. Some will even speed up, and almost all buses I've seen have sped up. Not trying to scare you, but they don't give a rats behind if you are in the road or not, some will not even bother stopping. SO, be careful crossing there, and do not assume a car will stop if you walk in front of it, even if it is on a crosswalk.

The second biggest risk is getting drugged. Do not leave your drink unattended, even if your new "Bby" or "girlfriend" professes her undying love for you. If you go [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and leave your beer in the living room, beer is dumped, no exceptions. These girls here are notorious for drugging / robbing gringos when given the chance.

You should be staying in a "guest friendly" apartment in the El Poblado district, which Parque Lleras is ground zero in. If you don't know any Spanish, do your best to learn some phrases, and learn their monetary system so you can instantly convert. You have a LOT of research on this board before your trip, my friend.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2110265]I'm very rarely bored while traveling. Even in airports I enjoy the watching and interacting with people from different backgrounds. Interesting people have varied interests. Beyond Guatape and Pablo Escobar's grave for example, there are several worthwhile museums in Medellin along with textile shops, restaurants and a long list of other things like the alliance Francaise where you can meet bright an inquisitive women. I think the most basic social skills can improve sessions with providers, but these are only my opinions.[/QUOTE]What is your M. O. With this place? Where is it?

[QUOTE=Questner;2112000]Breaks service guys likely make a good living. The only issue I noticed was speeding. They race like madmen. Anyway, here is the official quote from travel. Gc. Ca on Medellin: 'Try to arrive at Medelland's Jos Mara seerdova International Airport during the day to avoid the road from the airport to the city after dark'. As for others advising on taking a bus, I have low tolerance for this BS.[/QUOTE]For the money that is saved by taking the bus would get you a real nice adventure in a casa. Let's face it not all guys have money to burn. Also I have had a few nice conversations on that bus with some interesting females.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2112028]LOL.

I have never been with her but have seen her at the mansion.

If I didn't have better things to do at the tmie I would have taken her for a spin.

Face to face she is attractive enough.

I'm sure if she was a TS girl someone would have complained at the Mansion. LOL.

Besides from the looks of her facebook page she has children.

This mansion chick is a slightly better looking and is capable of giving an extremely good GFE.
300k TLN and no pop limit....I have banged her up to four times in an night. And always willing to please.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003857383032[/QUOTE]This talk about TS women that we see in medellin, some TS that I have seen in person, no they are not my thing, can fool you into believing they are a beautiful looking woman, until of course on closer inspection.

But really I have met a few out in the clubs and on the streets of poblado that I had to take a second look at.

TTM.

[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2112115]Get your hotel to send a trusted driver, or take a marked taxi. You can take pics of the license plate and cab # on the side of the door, and pretend your are texting it to someone. I've seen some of the girls do that, as they said women there get raped by cabbies all the time. They do that to greatly reduce their risk of the taxi guy plotting something. I've been there many times, have not had much trouble. Parque Llleras is the "Safest" of the zones, but I wouldn't consider any big city "SAFE" anywhere in the world. Steer clear of "cheap casas" in places like El Centro, which is a district you DO NOT want to be in unless you speak fluent Spanish and look like Danny Trejo. Even then, I'd advise you to bring a few wing men, only go during the day, and still keep your head on a swivel.

Your biggest risk in Medellin is crossing the street on foot and getting hit by a cab. Unlike the United States, if you step out in front of car, even on accident, the car has the right of way, not a person. So in other words, if there is a crosswalk, do not assume cars will stop for you or even bother braking. They won't. Some will even speed up, and almost all buses I've seen have sped up. Not trying to scare you, but they don't give a rats behind if you are in the road or not, some will not even bother stopping. SO, be careful crossing there, and do not assume a car will stop if you walk in front of it, even if it is on a crosswalk..[/QUOTE]Someone is feeding you a lot of exaggerated and outdated information, and you're doing everyone a disservice by passing it on.

The white taxis at the airport are safe, at least when it comes to not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] or robbing gringo travelers. The driving skills leave a lot to be desired. Depending on your hotel, their "trusted driver" is some friend of whoever receives your message, who knows he can overcharge you.

I walk between Parque Lleras and Parque Poblado at least 4 nights a week, midnight or later, I walk the same area, plus much more of Poblado at least 3 times a week. I've walked from Lleras to almost Envigado at 3 am. With a few exceptions, where nobody has any reason to go, Poblado is safe.

"Keeping your head on a swivel" is one of the quickest ways to get targeted for robbery. You may as well tattoo "tengo mucho dinero" on your forehead. It's a sign of nervousness. Instead, walk natural, with purpose. Look to the sides naturally and rely on peripheral vision. Stop at street vendors or in shops to see if someone is following you. You may still get targeted, but you're a lot less noticeable.

I don't speak fluent Spanish and don't look like Danny Trejo, but somehow I've survived multiple trips to El Centro, usually without a wingman. Avoid the cheap casas? That's why most people come here. It's simple. Figure out where you want to go, call a taxi, give the driver the address. Get out of the taxi, go inside, have your fun. When you're ready to leave, call a taxi.

I don't recommend walking alone in El Centro at night, but there are plenty of areas where, unless you're being stupid, you'll have no problems.

There have probably only been about a dozen confirmed cases of people being drugged in Colombia, but it's become the favorite urban legend. The motivation factor isn't there, especially if the girl is already in your apartment. She already knows she's getting paid. Why risk drugging you just to find out your money is locked in the safe? Why risk completely losing her access to overpaying gringos for a few extra 100 k? If you're hanging out in some of the barrios, drinking in the bars where no gringo has gone before, you might be drugged, but more likely someone will just use a knife to convince you to hand over your money and phone, and maybe to go to an ATM.

You were right about one thing, be careful crossing the street. Also, watch where you're walking. There are plenty of places where you can easily break an ankle.

If you don't know any Spanish, start learning. Learn numbers a few basic verbs, nouns and adjectives. It won't help much, because you still won't understand a word people say, but you will be able to get by. The more Spanish you learn, the better your experience will be.

You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112244]You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/[/URL][/QUOTE]Exactly! LOL The period I posted about a few pages back had 2 foreigners killed in El Poblado, 2 in Laurales and zero in Centro. LOL.

The reason I don't mind Centro so much late at night is it is only a block and a half to my 3 strip clubs from my hotel, plus 2 Casa's (Yakuza more like 50 ft), 24 HR indoorATM, 24 HR food. Not much exposure.

I see this guy, 41-year-old man identified as Johnny Noel Simancas Jr was killed with a knife, time to up your game in unarmed combat against a opponent or two armed with knives. Giving them what they want won't always keep you from getting stabbed but worth a try. I suggest a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2111806]Conveniently located close to the metro station, Estadio. But breakfast is rather Spartan, limited, limited choices. Not bad for the price, though.[/QUOTE]I checked that hotel Dorado and came up with 75 a night for March. Where you getting 43?

What does the mansion charge for a driver from the airport vs taking a taxi from the airport.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112244]You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/[/URL][/QUOTE]I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.

Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.

Around $75 k.

A taxi charges somewhat less, I think.

I like the microbus or minivan, that carries like 12 people. It's local flavor, but it takes you to El Centro. I don't like piling out of a minivan en El Centro with luggage, but then I only take a carry-on. So getting out at El Centro, one could take the subway to the Poblado station, then take a taxi, or just take a taxi from El Centro, in the latter case you are spending more.

It may be possible to get the minivan to let you out closer to El Poblado, but I have not been successful.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2112321]What does the mansion charge for a driver from the airport vs taking a taxi from the airport.[/QUOTE]

That is some Willie Sutton style robbery. He's the guy who is famous for answering the question of "why do you rob banks" with "because that's where the money is". Why do criminals target Poblado? Because that's where the money is.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2112289]Exactly! LOL The period I posted about a few pages back had 2 foreigners killed in El Poblado, 2 in Laurales and zero in Centro. LOL.

The reason I don't mind Centro so much late at night is it is only a block and a half to my 3 strip clubs from my hotel, plus 2 Casa's (Yakuza more like 50 ft), 24 HR indoorATM, 24 HR food. Not much exposure.

I see this guy, 41-year-old man identified as Johnny Noel Simancas Jr was killed with a knife, time to up your game in unarmed combat against a opponent or two armed with knives. Giving them what they want won't always keep you from getting stabbed but worth a try. I suggest a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2112161]For the money that is saved by taking the bus would get you a real nice adventure in a casa. Let's face it not all guys have money to burn. Also I have had a few nice conversations on that bus with some interesting females.[/QUOTE]Anyone who can't spend $25 on an airport transfer should keep their broke ass at home. In Colombia in particular taking a public transportation is not a good proposition. In many cases taxis directly are cheaper than a combination of a metro or Transmileneo plus a short taxi ride. You can do it for experience, do a metrocable etc. But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. Each country is different, and I do use public transportation in other countries, when it is both convenient and economical, that is when it makes sense. And it does not make sense in this case.

I suspect the American may have been up to some shady business, drugs and such. I don't have any facts to support that. It is a hunch that makes the pieces fit together.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112244]You guys had better get out of Poblado and head to Centro where it is safe!

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-con-arma-blanca-en-el-poblado/529964/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight. So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble'

[QUOTE=Questner;2112354]Anyone who can't spend $25 on an airport transfer should keep their broke ass at home. In Colombia in particular taking a public transportation is not a good proposition. In many cases taxis directly are cheaper than a combination of a metro or Transmileneo plus a short taxi ride. You can do it for experience, do a metrocable etc. [b]But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension.[/b] Each country is different, and I do use public transportation in other countries, when it is both convenient and economical, that is when it makes sense. And it does not make sense in this case.[/QUOTE]It is not that someone can't do something sir, but obviously you have a different idea of when something is convenient and economical than other people do since there are millions of people that take public transportation with their luggage and valuables from countless airports all over the world everyday. I have never taken a taxi from and to the airport in Medellin (Bogota, Cali, Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Monteria I have), because I am one of those that see the bus as convenient and economical.

Why would I spend $25 for a taxi that is going to get me somewhere in relatively the same amount of time with just as much comfort as the $3 bus? Likewise I could say that anyone that can not pay $300 short time for a prepago should keep their broke ass home. Or anybody who is not buying a first class ticket should keep their broke ass home. Or anyone that prefers mongering at the 30k casas should keep their broke ass home. But then too I stay in $11 hotels downtown and not in $75 apartments in Poblado. Maybe I should be the one keeping my broke ass home.

[QUOTE=Questner;2112354] But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. [/QUOTE]Why?

They put the luggage in a rear compartment and put a numbered tag on it, you get a matching tag, you hand it to the driver when you get off and he gets your bag.

You are riding with Colombians who just flew in on a jet, not exactly the super poor. And the final stop is 75 ft from my hotel.

The automotive death rate in Colombia is about double the US one per 100,000 at 17 Vs 9 for the US. If I am going to get in a head-on accident coming down that windy mountain road I'd rather not be in this:

I don't think it's especially dangerous to take the airport bus to Centro of San Diego and then grab a taxi. It's pretty inconvenient but you do save $15 to $20. There are plenty of waiting taxis and the bus company keeps troublemakers away. The buses will also drop you at a couple of stops along the way. Backpackers are known to jump off at the stop closer to Poblado for a cheaper taxi ride to their hostels.

[QUOTE=Questner;2112354]Anyone who can't spend $25 on an airport transfer should keep their broke ass at home. In Colombia in particular taking a public transportation is not a good proposition. In many cases taxis directly are cheaper than a combination of a metro or Transmileneo plus a short taxi ride. You can do it for experience, do a metrocable etc. But why anyone with luggage and valuables will opt for a bus on a way from an airport is beyond any comprehension. Each country is different, and I do use public transportation in other countries, when it is both convenient and economical, that is when it makes sense. And it does not make sense in this case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Questner;2112361] So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella[/QUOTE]If after you give over your $ to a knife wielding opponent he decides to stab you to death anyway, I'd prefer a 3 ft umbrella with a steel tip over hand-to-knife combat. Keeping the blade at distance is paramount as long as you can, till something changes in the equation (people / cops showing up, he gives up, etc) and you can break and run. You might still get stabbed to death but it's a slightly better chance of surviving. This assumes you are in shape with good reflex's and have some hand-to-hand training.

If you want the Whatsapp of my taxi driver (he drives a white taxi. The airport taxi). He or his dad will pick you up. 65 K from airport to Poblado. 50 K from Poblado back to airport. Very reliable. Nice family.

[QUOTE=Questner;2111646]The airport road is safe, however is recommended to travel during day time. Pre-book a pick up with your hotel. They will gladly arrange for it. The standard rate is 70 K including tolls of 10 K each way, everything up is a premium for your safety. They may also send an Uber driver or someone they can trust and work with daily. Park is very safe on the perimeter, and safer on weekends. Take a cab to the park and back late night.[/QUOTE]

[URL]Chicaspunto.com[/URL] and the place a floor above it are just around the corner from your favorite place.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2112289]Exactly! LOL The period I posted about a few pages back had 2 foreigners killed in El Poblado, 2 in Laurales and zero in Centro. LOL.

The reason I don't mind Centro so much late at night is it is only a block and a half to my 3 strip clubs from my hotel, plus 2 Casa's (Yakuza more like 50 ft), 24 HR indoorATM, 24 HR food. Not much exposure.

I see this guy, 41-year-old man identified as Johnny Noel Simancas Jr was killed with a knife, time to up your game in unarmed combat against a opponent or two armed with knives. Giving them what they want won't always keep you from getting stabbed but worth a try. I suggest a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble.[/QUOTE]

I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?

[URL]https://noticias.caracoltv.com/medellin/ciudadano-extranjero-fue-encontrado-muerto-al-interior-de-un-apartamento-en-el-poblado[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;2112361]Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight.[/QUOTE]If someone is staying anywhere near Parque Lleras, they can take a taxi to the bus stop just outside the San Diego mall. It cost about 8,000. They can then take the airport bus to the airport for 9,500. The airport bus starts running very early, I think at 4:30 am.

Probably all of us who visit Medellin can afford to pay a taxi to take us to the airport, but why do that? I am not in the habit of paying four times more than I have to for anything.

[QUOTE=Questner;2112361]Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight. So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble'[/QUOTE]This is simply a YMMV situation. I occasionally take a 2 or 3 day trip to Bogota and travel with just a carry on. I will take a taxi to the airport, because I have more control over my arrival time. In Bogota, I'll walk out hop on the free bus to the El Dorado Transmilenio portal, take the Transmilenio and then walk 5 to 10 minutes to my hotel, if I'm arriving during daylight. Costs me 2000 pesos and it's the same amount of time as a taxi.

Returning, I'll take the Transmilenio back to the airport, and then hop the bus to San Diego Mall, walk through the mall hop on the bus which drops me within a 3 minute walk of my apartment. I save a bit over 100 k and it takes the same amount of time.

Now if I'm traveling with more luggage I'll take the taxi.

I just did a check for this month and the price is only $35, but remember, the prices fluctuate. Who are you checking with? They are definitely trying to overcharge you.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2112312]I checked that hotel Dorado and came up with 75 a night for March. Where you getting 43?[/QUOTE]

Mariana.

This place is a casa that I found through an advertisement. 150000 pesos for 1 hour.

My experience was not good. She was a "don't touch my breasts type" girl so I cut off the session after 15 minutes and went to another casa. I don't know the general phone number to see the lineup. I think 4 or 5 chicas work here. Facility was nice. I think I found her on photosprepagos.

Picture is real but she has tattoos. You can see her image on Whatsapp. Unable to copy image.

Carrera 80 b#32 ee37.

This casa is the cleanest best facility of anywhere I went.

If you are staying in Poblado this is located within easy walking distance.

Unfortunately, these chicas are not the best in bed. They seem kind of inexperienced. Valentina gave an excellent strong massage if you are interested in that service. It might be worth checking out occasionally to see if the lineup improves.

150000 pesos per hour.

Whatsapp +57 xxxx571842.

Address: Calle 14.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2112397][URL]Chicaspunto.com[/URL] and the place a floor above it are just around the corner from your favorite place.[/QUOTE]Yep have done a Chicopunto run, but I kinda like the laid back party atmosphere they get at Yakuza, dudes on couches drinking beers with the girls. I wander in and out of there several times a day usually to see who's working. And 45 k to my hotel is hard to be for the occasional cutie they have working.

[QUOTE=JoeFlaxman;2112337]I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.

Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.[/QUOTE]There ya go. Totally safe. Thanks for the update.

By the way, What happens after 11 pm?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2112430]I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure it has to be valid for duration of stay. I'd get a new one ASAP.

How long have you known El Centro?

[QUOTE=JoeFlaxman;2112337]I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.

Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.[/QUOTE]

You typically need to have at least six months of validity to be admitted to most countries or to get a visa. You will be allowed to leave as long as you have at least 24 hours validity. The USA will admit you with at least 24 hours validity left on the passport. I agree with the advice to renew it before you go.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2112581]Pretty sure it has to be valid for duration of stay. I'd get a new one ASAP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeFlaxman;2112337]I totally agree. Centro Medellin is totally safe during the day and up to 11 pm at night. Anyone who says it is dangerous needs to tell their own personnel story and stop spreading rumors.
Put it in writing. I was out near the Vera Cruz Church and Parque Botero every evening for 7 days up to 11 pm and never had any problems. I even went across the street from Parque Botero twice at 10 pm and walked by all the bars in the Zona Rosa. It was kind of seedy but no one bothered me. Also there were no beggars or touts around this part of town at night either unlike Ermita in Manila. Folks don't believe what others are writing. Just go there and see for yourself. I even walked from Parque Berrio to the San Antonio metro station one night at 11 pm and no one bothered me.[/QUOTE]What, you work for the Colombian Tourist Board or what? LOL.

I have stayed in Centro almost 3 weeks and walked everywhere and at no point did I think it was safe, just less unsafe sometimes. And I have been out solo on foot till 2 am. Personal anecdotes are a poor way to judge safety. Yes you are fine in Centro till you aren't. Then bad things might happen.

"Crime Statistics by Neighborhood in Medellin.

Last year the El Colombiano newspaper had an article the broke out reported crime statistics by comuna in Medellin.

Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.

The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.

In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.

La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offences. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14, 2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medellin were in El Poblado."

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

There is a bit of new information in this video report. It happened on calle 10 near Parque Lleras in what appears to be a pretty modest apartment. The reporters said the victim was with a girl of illegal age, whose boyfriend came to the apartment. The boyfriend is the presumed suspect. The reporters and a law enforcement official they interviewed went on to mention sex tourism and the "companion's" age. You all know the rest.

[QUOTE=Kick123;2112431][URL]https://noticias.caracoltv.com/medellin/ciudadano-extranjero-fue-encontrado-muerto-al-interior-de-un-apartamento-en-el-poblado[/URL][/QUOTE]

Latest news indicate it seems he was trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] a minor and his boyfriend came into help:

[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380[/URL]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2112573]There ya go. Totally safe. Thanks for the update.

By the way, What happens after 11 pm?[/QUOTE]The area does become very seedy after 11 pm. Up until 11 pm no problems. Colombian National Police were present every night in the area up until 11 pm. Like I said I never felt threatened and no one bothered me such as touts, beggars or pickpocketers.

Needs to be valid 6 months past departure date.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2112430]I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2112430]I'm planning a trip to MDE. My passport is valid, but will expire shortly after my planned arrival and departure. I know that some countries have requirements that your passport be valid for a certain time period beyond your entry date. Does anyone know what it is for Colombia?[/QUOTE]Full and official information here:

[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Colombia.html[/URL]

Keep in mind that for many countries, your passport must be valid for six months beyond the expiration date printed in your passport. Meaning, for many countries, passports technically expire six months before the official expiration date. I've read more than one post on TripAdvisor where someone's vacation was blown up because their passport was technically expired.

To echo YippieKayay, yeah, update your passport pronto. Expect the process to take about six weeks (mine did).

I think this is a booker for Venezoalian chicas. I whatsapped them and they said they were with one block of the Floresta metro station. They charge 60000 pesos an hour. I looked at Google Maps and it showed a 40 minute drive during a rainstorm and said I could not make it because of the traffic. The booker countered that she could send someone to my place for 140000 pesos. I agreed. One hour later a young chica shows at my hotel. Not a looker by any means. However she gave a decent massage and the sex was good. I tipped her 50000 additional for BBBJ.

Whatsapp: +57 xxxx405031.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2112581]Pretty sure it has to be valid for duration of stay. I'd get a new one ASAP.[/QUOTE]I have heard of some countries denying entry if the expiration date is within six months of the day you try to get in. Better to be careful and renew it ahead of time. Don't worry about the six months that you'll lose!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Questner;2112361]Last time I had an early flight out of Meddy at about 8 am. It has never crossed my mind to walk myself at dawn with luggage to Poblado metro station, then take a metro to the city centre, then take a public van to the airport if it even were available so early, and then to fear it may stuck somewhere in traffic for whatever reason and I would miss my flight. So, that's why I call busing to and from airport a BS, the same sort of advice given earlier in the thread to protect oneself in the city centre with 'a full size umbrella with a sharpened point as a possible weapon you can carry anywhere without trouble'[/QUOTE]There is a taxi rank where the bus drops you off, which is why I specifically mentioned the bus + taxi option, and noted that this might or might not save much money depending on where you were staying. But why would a van be any more or less likely to be stuck in traffic than a taxi? The post I responded to said nothing about Poblado.

For people who travel a lot, it is not a question of $25 one time, but rather a question of $25 many times. Glad that money is no object for you, and hope that situation continues for you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2112229]I don't speak fluent Spanish ... There have probably only been about a dozen confirmed cases of people being drugged in Colombia[/QUOTE]Right, you don't speak fluent Spanish, so you don't have any idea. I personally know more than a dozen people who have been drugged in Colombia. What is your definition of 'confirmed'?

Folks, in any country, those who don't speak the local language aren't going to [B]actually[/B] know what's going on. They may [B]think[/B] they know what's going on, but all their information is inherently filtered, and the demographic group they interacted with will be inherently restricted.

So, I would not out of hand dismiss what someone like JjBee62 says, but I would give more credence to information that came from someone fluent in the language of the realm. But that statement about only a dozen cases of drugging is just totally ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2112357]I suspect the American may have been up to some shady business, drugs and such. I don't have any facts to support that. It is a hunch that makes the pieces fit together.[/QUOTE]Which américan? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. Not a single Colombian I know or met has any such problem. They'll say, Americans are from the USA, the country that has America in its name. They identify as Colombian and ask who are they to tell an American how to identify himself? Now I have run into dudes who say almost verbatim what you typed. Guess who they are? Liberal White dudes from the States, Canada, Europe, etc. The Colombians and I laugh and take a shot of guaro after the apologetic, misguided White dude walks away. The Colombians I interact with literally laugh at all the PC nonsense.

Real talk.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]I have locals all the time ask me in both Colombia and Brazil, if I'm an "Americano".

That's them, asking me, using the term "americano".

And in over 20 years, I've never had anyone get really pissed off over the matter, not even a little pissed off, and as a matter of fact, they generally use the term to describe people from the USA, or use the term, gringo Lol

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112697]Right, you don't speak fluent Spanish, so you don't have any idea. I personally know more than a dozen people who have been drugged in Colombia. What is your definition of 'confirmed'?

Folks, in any country, those who don't speak the local language aren't going to [B]actually[/B] know what's going on. They may [B]think[/B] they know what's going on, but all their information is inherently filtered, and the demographic group they interacted with will be inherently restricted.

So, I would not out of hand dismiss what someone like JjBee62 says, but I would give more credence to information that came from someone fluent in the language of the realm. But that statement about only a dozen cases of drugging is just totally ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I'm going to eat my words on this one. But first I will qualify my previous statement.

I know of several cases in the US, where some guy goes out and goes crazy in a strip club or casino, maxes out their credit cards and then claims they were drugged, or the establishment falsely charged them. I know there are cases of people doing the same thing in Colombia and then concocting a story about being drugged. I also know there are cases of people being drugged here. It's real, but it's also a convenient excuse for lack of self-control.

I just talked with someone who fell victim to this. It didn't happen in his room and his losses were minimal. He saw some girls and started talking. A Colombian guy came up, started talking and then went to the bar to buy shots. Much later he woke up in a strange room with no memory of what happened.

Address: Calle 32 F # 65 4 Belen Fatima.

From my worldwide experience sometimes the managers of casas have a knack for hiring women who enjoy sex. I think this casa has one of those managers. My two best sex experiences during a one week stay in Medellin were at this casa. I think you could anything legal in terms of sex acts that you want here. The downside is the facility is the worst of any I visited in terms of bed and shower. Also there are only 3 women in the lineup. 150000 pesos per hour is the base price. 250000 if you want two women at a time. I tipped for some extras. One time 20000 pesos and the other time 50000 pesos. This casa is my top recommendation. Pictures from Whatsapp contact are real but of course they pick flattering pictures.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2112854]My two best sex experiences during a one week stay in Medellin were at this casa. The downside is the facility is the worst of any I visited in terms of bed and shower. Also there are only 3 women in the lineup. 150000 pesos per hour is the base price. [/QUOTE]Strange. You can find any type of girl at any type of place, but most people are willing to pay this kind of money because of the facility/setting.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]I agree with your logic. But many years ago I was in a bar in Asia having a conversation with the guy next to me. He asked if I was American. I said "Well. I am from the United States. " he got quite pissed off that I hadn't simply answered "yes".

Bob.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]If you read the following article, written on a Colombian website by a Colombian reporter, she refers to the victim as an "americano".

[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380[/URL]

I agree that all people from North and South America are Americas, but I doubt the general populace get pissed off if someone from the US refers to himself as an American. Also, there are some people from the US who think they are superior to locals when visiting other countries. I wish those people would disappear, but I know it won't happen.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]I have been travelling regularly there for almost 6 years, have business, and even had a fiance from Medellin at one time, and still great friends with her family. I out of habit said Americano one time, and they all looked at me and said were not? I realized my mistake, and they told me lovingly they knew I meant know harm but when someone from the USA says it it comes across like we are the only ones. They said to use North American, or I am from the USA. If you put yourselves in their shoes, I understand their point exactly. I strongly recommend not saying it.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2112854] The downside is the facility is the worst of any I visited in terms of bed and shower.[/QUOTE]How bad that is might depend on where else you have been. Are you comparing it to say Yakuza or New Life?

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]That could just as well mean that you are from the Estados Unidos Mexicanos instead of the Estados Unidos Americanos.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2112698]Which amrican? The North American who got killed or the South American who killed him? Point being, Colombians are just as 'American' as people from the US. So anyone who travels in Latin America should get that straight, because it really pisses other Americans off when people from the US think they are particularly 'American. ' If you are from the US, never, ever, say you are 'americano. ' Say you are 'estadounidense. '.[/QUOTE]Technically you are 100% correct. And me personally, I follow your thinking and never identify myself as just "American. " However, people from the USA Are so commonly referred to as "Americans," that it's generally not a problem saying it. Sort of like saying "I'm playing well" vs "I'm playing good. " The latter is grammatically incorrect, but it's so commonly used that it's become acceptable.

Also not all Latin Americans have a problem with it (not even close). I dated a Venezuelan girl in the USA Who insisted that I was "Norte Americano" not American. However, that's not technically correct either as it would include Canada and Mexico.

OTOH I have Colombian friends that use American all the time for people from the USA. In Cuba, all my acquaintances call me Americano.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2112908]If you read the following article, written on a Colombian website by a Colombian reporter, she refers to the victim as an "americano".

[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380[/URL]

I agree that all people from North and South America are Americas, but I doubt the general populace get pissed off if someone from the US refers to himself as an American. Also, there are some people from the US who think they are superior to locals when visiting other countries. I wish those people would disappear, but I know it won't happen.[/QUOTE]Agree on both counts.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112955]That could just as well mean that you are from the Estados Unidos Mexicanos instead of the Estados Unidos Americanos.[/QUOTE]I love you Mr E, but I've never heard a Mexican referred to as estadounidense. Nor the country of Mexico as Estados Unidos.

Morever EE. UU. (Estados Unidos) is the abbreviation on official forms for the USA.

Technically speaking estadounidense is the most accurate (and non-insulting) word for a person from the USA.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2112544]I just did a check for this month and the price is only $35, but remember, the prices fluctuate. Who are you checking with? They are definitely trying to overcharge you.[/QUOTE]I went on their site but I put it in for March. Maybe that's the high season and prices are up then.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2112918]How bad that is might depend on where else you have been. Are you comparing it to say Yakuza or New Life?[/QUOTE]I have been to Centro casas on previous trips. I have not had good experiences there. Why anybody would recommend to anybody to go to New Life is beyond me. I am 0 for 2 there. No desire to go 0 for 3. I don't remember what the showers are like. I went to Paradise. It was blah but the facilities are nice. My one good experience was I believe at Dulce Compania with a 27-year old. I remember walking out of New Life so unhappy that I walked into the next place I found. That was when we carried paper maps around Centro. I always much preferred Energy, Blue Room and Zen. There is so much pussy in Medellin you can carve your own path. You can go from $10 to $200 USD. From streetwalkers to takeout from La Isla. Whatever floats your boat.

[QUOTE=Combo;2112967]I love you Mr E, but I've never heard a Mexican referred to as estadounidense. Nor the country of Mexico as Estados Unidos.[/QUOTE]México, officially the United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico[/URL]

Appreciated the advice and the links!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112890]Strange. You can find any type of girl at any type of place, but most people are willing to pay this kind of money because of the facility/setting.[/QUOTE]A guy named Cubanut disagreed with you. The linked post is from 2011.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1172528&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1172528.

Interpreting an event like this from sketchy facts seems to always give rise to arguments, but here is my 2 cents anyways.

This guy had an apt on 43 and calle 10, which is a nice spot, right down from Parque Lleras. My question would be, how does the 23 year old dude get in the apt? Of course the article says that she called for help, and he just happened to be right outside the door, but that seems unlikely. In one scenario then, the American dude (from the US) invites both the girl and the guy in. This would be a fatal mistake. Personally, on the rare occasions where I have had 2 women in my room at the same time, it seems to me they are trying to steal from me constantly. If you are porking one, the other is going through your jeans pockets. But the idea of inviting a girl and a guy, presumably her boyfriend. Well, anything can and probably will happen.

Scenario 2 is that it was a setup where the girl comes in and then the 23 year old dude rushes in. I wonder if the guy's apt was on the 1st floor, that is on the street? That's the only way I can see this happening. And that's shitty luck.

The article says, if I read it right, that there was a gun found, and also 2 knives, and that he was killed with the knives. So maybe he pulled the gun at some point. (How would you get a gun down there? You wouldn't get a gun for a week's stay?) So one might speculate what the argument was about. Without reaching too far, you would guess that the girl indicated earlier that she wanted to make love, but it was a setup to rob the dude. They started taking his shit, and he resisted. Dead.

There is danger in Medellin, always remember.

[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2113053]
[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/asesinan-a-ciudadano-americano-en-el-poblado-de-medellin-JJ7803380[/URL][/QUOTE]Shit I've actually stayed in that building. There's no security personnel. It's literally 2 apartments if I remember correctly. Holy shit. I'm really thinking Cartagena is the better spot right now. Fuck this jazz about guns and knives.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2113062]Shit I've actually stayed in that building. There's no security personnel. It's literally 2 apartments if I remember correctly. Holy shit. I'm really thinking Cartagena is the better spot right now. Fuck this jazz about guns and knives.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/carcel-para-joven-senalado-de-asesinar-a-norteamericano-DH7810225[/URL]

Another article. Another thought. What if the 23 year old had the gun, and gringo took it away from him? You know, it's more likely the kid had a gun than that the gringo had a gun.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2113073][URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/carcel-para-joven-senalado-de-asesinar-a-norteamericano-DH7810225[/URL]

[/QUOTE]For the sake of those who do not read Spanish here is the article in English (I did this on the fly, so excuse the mistakes and please make corrections if you like):

To jail for a crime against a stranger in El Poblado.

A youth of 23 years was sent this Monday to preventive prison indicated to show how he is responsible for the assassination, this past weekend, of a North American inside of an apartment in El Poblado.

In agreement with the judicial report of the cadaver of the victim, Johnny Noel Simancas, was found a blank weapon across the neck.

The principal hypothesis by the authorities is that within the property a struggle occurred in that the stranger, intending on abusing a minor of age of 17 years. It appears the adolescent alerted a friend to rescue him and there discarded the acts of violence.

When the authorities arrived to the scene of the crime, Friday night, they found the naked cadaver of the stranger, with weapons: one empty gun and two knives. Also, there were bloody footprints along the tiles (roof or floor, or both) which led the authorities initially a persecution of the neighborhood that gave up the person responsible for the crime.

In the apartment they were able to find the documents of the adolescent who denounced the abuse.

The captured youth did not accept the charges imputed on him for the crime of simple homicide. The minor in age, for his part, was presented before a judge of Infancy and Adolescence.

Search for crimes in Cartagena then decide. Remember to account for the bigger population of Medellin. You need to be careful in either city.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2113062]Shit I've actually stayed in that building. There's no security personnel. It's literally 2 apartments if I remember correctly. Holy shit. I'm really thinking Cartagena is the better spot right now. Fuck this jazz about guns and knives.[/QUOTE]

Interesting translation. So the cadaver made a report? That is quite a feat. I always thought 'dead men tell no tales.' Guess I was wrong about that. And a blank weapon was found? And the neighborhood was persecuted? Interesting. What was this, google translate? Snicker. 'Just say no' to on-line translators.

And um, the minor was a female, not a male. Not just one, but two elements of the last sentence indicate that.

Se dice "norteamericano".

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk;2112916]I have been travelling regularly there for almost 6 years, have business, and even had a fiance from Medellin at one time, and still great friends with her family. I out of habit said Americano one time, and they all looked at me and said were not? I realized my mistake, and they told me lovingly they knew I meant know harm but when someone from the USA says it it comes across like we are the only ones. They said to use North American, or I am from the USA. If you put yourselves in their shoes, I understand their point exactly. I strongly recommend not saying it.[/QUOTE]

I agree, for me chicapunto is a plan be or see option.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2112570]Yep have done a Chicopunto run, but I kinda like the laid back party atmosphere they get at Yakuza, dudes on couches drinking beers with the girls. I wander in and out of there several times a day usually to see who's working. And 45 k to my hotel is hard to be for the occasional cutie they have working.[/QUOTE]

If you are not latino, you are 'gringo' for Colombians, period. They will laugh in your face and call you a gringo even when they know you are not, share a drink with them and talk Spanish. Even if you are Chinese from the mainland, you are still gringo. The article calls the guy 'norteamericano', how polite and sensitive. BTW, read the comments. And I don't believe even a hint of 'abuse' in this case. Very likely the couple is not from estrato 5 or 6, which proves again and again how inherently unsafe is Colombia.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2112955]That could just as well mean that you are from the Estados Unidos Mexicanos instead of the Estados Unidos Americanos.[/QUOTE]Not to anyone in Colombia, or in Mexico, Venezuela or Argentina. I can't think of any Spanish speaking country that would think estadounidense is a reference to Mexico.

[QUOTE=Questner;2113114]If you are not latino, you are 'gringo' for Colombians, period. They will laugh in your face and call you a gringo even when they know you are not, share a drink with them and talk Spanish. Even if you are Chinese from the mainland, you are still gringo. The article calls the guy 'norteamericano', how polite and sensitive.[/QUOTE]I thought gringo generally meant foreigner, unless I have seriously been missing something all these years. Why would they call you a foreigner if they know you are a local? Do you see it as a derogatory term? Because I am a Black North American guy and have been called gringo by loved ones in South America. And what would they be laughing in your face about? Missing your point about needing to be polite and sensitve when describing a foreigner by their nationality.

'Gringo' is typically used pejoratively, but is not like saying f- your mother or anything like that. It can be used in good fun, depending on the interpersonal relationships involved. There is a lot of disagreement about its etymology and precisely to whom it refers. The most popular explanation is that it is short for 'green go home,' referring to the color of the US military uniforms. That is easily debunked since the term has been in use since before the US military switched from blue. But I have never, ever, heard it applied to (southeast) Asians, who are normally referred to as 'chinos' no matter if they are Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, whatever. It is not merely synonymous with foreigner, since a colombiano would never refer to a venezolano or peruano, etc. , as a gringo, nor vice-versa. The guatemalan version of google translates it as someone from the US. But then the Spanish version of Wikipedia says it refers to speakers of European languages that are not understandable to Spanish-speakers. One of the earliest known written usages was basically the opposite, people who could not speak Spanish, or spoke bad Spanish. I believe this came from a Spanish friar named Torre de Pandos or something like that. Late colonial period, maybe late 18th century. I believe this to be a more correct origin, based on the more formal part of my studies. It is also sometimes said to be a corruption of 'griego,' meaning Greek.

'Extranjero' translates as foreigner, and not as stranger (it is a false cognate), which would typically be 'desconocido,' meaning someone you have never met. If someone calls me a gringo and I don't like the context or the way they said it, I will say something like, 'Soy extranjero. [B]Y qué?[/B]' If I like the context, I might say 'No soy gringo sino un pinche gringo. ' Of course, 'pinche' means different things in different countries. In Spain it just means the lowest person in the kitchen, a dishwasher or a potato peeler, although many people don't believe me when I tell them that.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2113097]Interesting translation....[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. I was in a rush since I had to go out. If you can clean it up for me I would greatly appreciate it. You are correct in that it was a female. Also, I didn't focus much on punctuation and if I dropped a word or two it would have made the translation better. This is what happens when one does not focus. Thanks Dickhead for correcting me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113016]Mxico, officially the United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico[/URL][/QUOTE]Have you ever heard of a Mexican refer to themselves as estadounidense? I'm going to guess it's never happened.

Just to make the point further, look up "estadounidense" in a Spanish dictionary.

[QUOTE=Combo;2113181]Have you ever heard of a Mexican refer to themselves as estadounidense? I'm going to guess it's never happened.

Just to make the point further, look up "estadounidense" in a Spanish dictionary.[/QUOTE]Nope. Never. And by that same token I have never heard a person from the United States of America refer to themselves as North American or United Statesian if they have not spent time in South America. In general, people from the United States of America refer to themselves as Americans and people from the United States of Mexico refer to themselves as Mexicans.

The problem is some South American people (eg. my friends that I have been through this issue with) not wanting to realize there can exist more than one meaning of American, just the same as there can exist more than one meaning of gringo. As Dickhead said, the meaning of certain words depend on the context in which they are used.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113126]I thought gringo generally meant foreigner[/QUOTE]Extranjero is the word you are looking for. It's officially used at the airports to when you pick the customs line you stand in. Weirdly enough it can also mean 'stranger' or 'strange one. '.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113190]Nope. Never. And by that same token I have never heard a person from the United States of America refer to themselves as North American or United Statesian if they have not spent time in South America. In general, people from the United States of America refer to themselves as Americans and people from the United States of Mexico refer to themselves as Mexicans.

The problem is some South American people (eg. my friends that I have been through this issue with) not wanting to realize there can exist more than one meaning of American, just the same as there can exist more than one meaning of gringo. As Dickhead said, the meaning of certain words depend on the context in which they are used.[/QUOTE]Well I can't argue that. Back to more important matters!

Here's my translation of the article, with notes in parentheses and explained at the bottom:

Un joven de 23 años fue enviado este lunes a prisión preventiva al ser señalado como el presunto responsable del asesinato, el pasado fin de semana, de un norteamericano dentro de un apartamento en El Poblado.

"A 23 year old (young) man was taken into preventive custody Monday after being identified as the alleged murderer of a North American man inside an apartment in Poblado last weekend."

De acuerdo con el reporte judicial el cadáver de la víctima, Johnny Noel Simancas, fue hallado con una arma blanca atravesada en el cuello.

"According to the coroner's report, the victim, Johnny Noel Simancas, was discovered with his throat slashed."

La principal hipótesis de las autoridades es que dentro del inmueble se generó una riña, luego de que el extranjero intentara abusar de una menor de edad de 17 años. Al parecer la adolescente alert a un amigo para que la rescatara y ahí se desencadenaron los hechos violentos.

"The authorities' main theory is that there was a fight inside the apartment after the foreigner tried to molest a seventeen-year-old girl. It appears the teenager called a (male) friend to rescue her and that set off a chain of violent events."

Cuando las autoridades acudieron a la escena del crimen, el viernes en la noche, hallaron el cadáver desnudo del extranjero y tres armas: una de fogueo y dos objetos cortopunzantes. Además había huellas de sangre que conducían al tejado por lo que las autoridades iniciaron una persecución por el vecindario que dio con el presunto responsable del crimen.

"When the authorities went to the crime scene Friday night, they discovered the naked body of the foreigner and three weapons: a starter pistol (1) and two sharp objects. Also, there were traces of blood (2) that lead to the roof, which led to a chase through the neighborhood which led to the suspect."

En el apartamento también se hallaron lo documentos de la adolescente que denunció el intento de abuso.

"The teenaged girl who reported the abuse's identification was also found in the apartment."

El joven capturado no aceptó (3) los cargos imputados por el delito de homicidio simple. La menor de edad, por su parte, fue presentada ante un juez de Infancia y Adolescencia.

"The (young) man who was captured denied the charges of simple homicide (4). The teenaged girl, based on her role in the crime, was brought before a Juvenile and Family Court judge."

(1): Could also mean a fake gun, like a replica weapon, or even a cap pistol.

(2): Could also mean bloody footprints (quite likely) or bloody fingerprints.

(3): Could mean "pled not guilty. ".

(3): Could be what would be called second-degree murder or even manslaughter in the US.

Nice work Dickhead!

So what do you think actually happened?

And what is the moral?

Good job. I appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2113419]Here's my translation of the article, with notes in parentheses and explained at the bottom:

Un joven de 23 aos fue enviado este lunes a prisin preventiva al ser sealado como el presunto responsable del asesinato, el pasado fin de semana, de un norteamericano dentro de un apartamento en El Poblado.

"A 23 year old (young) man was taken into preventive custody Monday after being identified as the alleged murderer of a North American man inside an apartment in Poblado last weekend."

De acuerdo con el reporte judicial el cadver de la vctima, Johnny Noel Simancas, fue hallado con una arma blanca atravesada en el cuello.

"According to the coroner's report, the victim, Johnny Noel Simancas, was discovered with his throat slashed."

La principal hiptesis de las autoridades es que dentro del inmueble se gener una ria, luego de que el extranjero intentara abusar de una menor de edad de 17 aos. Al parecer la adolescente alert a un amigo para que la rescatara y ah se desencadenaron los hechos violentos..[/QUOTE]

I think the gringo brought an u n d e r a g e puta back to his apartment, her pimp showed up, they tried a blackmail scheme, the gringo resisted, and they aced him. The moral would be, look at the fucking cédula FIRST, and be sure you know the difference between what 1/12/99 means in the Yew Ess and what it means in LatAm, Europe, etc.

I have seen two conflicting reports of where the apartment is located. One shows a photo of the building where primarily gringos stay. The other (video report) shows an apartment across the street. I have stayed in apartments on that street many times. I have never seen a gringo going in or out of the apartment in the video. I think it is the apartment building in the photo. I don't think it is a first floor apartment because the report said the two tried to escape on the roof.

As to what happened, I don't think the age of the girl had any bearing. The report said the gringo was found naked. I think he and the girl had sex, and he was taking a shower afterwards. While he was in the shower, the girl went downstairs and let the guy in. They intended to rob the gringo, but he resisted. There was a struggle and the gringo realized he was in trouble and began screaming. That's when a neighbor called the police. They slashed the gringo's throat and tried to find money, which was probably locked in the room safe. They stayed in the apartment too long and heard the police sirens, so they tried to escape through the roof.

IMO, the fatal mistake was resisting a robbery.

Good analysis.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2113489]I have seen two conflicting reports of where the apartment is located. One shows a photo of the building where primarily gringos stay. The other (video report) shows an apartment across the street. I have stayed in apartments on that street many times. I have never seen a gringo going in or out of the apartment in the video. I think it is the apartment building in the photo. I don't think it is a first floor apartment because the report said the two tried to escape on the roof.

As to what happened, I don't think the age of the girl had any bearing. The report said the gringo was found naked. I think he and the girl had sex, and he was taking a shower afterwards. While he was in the shower, the girl went downstairs and let the guy in. They intended to rob the gringo, but he resisted. There was a struggle and the gringo realized he was in trouble and began screaming. That's when a neighbor called the police. They slashed the gringo's throat and tried to find money, which was probably locked in the room safe. They stayed in the apartment too long and heard the police sirens, so they tried to escape through the roof.

IMO, the fatal mistake was resisting a robbery.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113126]I thought gringo generally meant foreigner, unless I have seriously been missing something all these years. Why would they call you a foreigner if they know you are a local? Do you see it as a derogatory term? Because I am a Black North American guy and have been called gringo by loved ones in South America. And what would they be laughing in your face about? Missing your point about needing to be polite and sensitve when describing a foreigner by their nationality.[/QUOTE]No, it's not derogatory in most cases. From my point of view, not from theirs, the term should mean someone from the US. When I tell them that I were not from the US, they seem not to care, and tell me basically, as long as you are not latino you are 'gringo'. Foreigner is of course 'extranjero'. The other term is 'forastero' but I haven't heard anyone use it other that in a name of the famous church in the city centre, Eglesia de la Veracruz de LOS Forasteros, the same church every brave tourist hobbyist is lurking around looking for trouble.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2113489]I have seen two conflicting reports of where the apartment is located. One shows a photo of the building where primarily gringos stay. The other (video report) shows an apartment across the street. I have stayed in apartments on that street many times. I have never seen a gringo going in or out of the apartment in the video. I think it is the apartment building in the photo. I don't think it is a first floor apartment because the report said the two tried to escape on the roof.

As to what happened, I don't think the age of the girl had any bearing. The report said the gringo was found naked. I think he and the girl had sex, and he was taking a shower afterwards. While he was in the shower, the girl went downstairs and let the guy in. They intended to rob the gringo, but he resisted. There was a struggle and the gringo realized he was in trouble and began screaming. That's when a neighbor called the police. They slashed the gringo's throat and tried to find money, which was probably locked in the room safe. They stayed in the apartment too long and heard the police sirens, so they tried to escape through the roof.

IMO, the fatal mistake was resisting a robbery.[/QUOTE]As the below post noted, this is probably the way it went down.

RIP.

TTM.

Good insights. Thank you.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2113489]I have seen two conflicting reports of where the apartment is located. One shows a photo of the building where primarily gringos stay. The other (video report) shows an apartment across the street. I have stayed in apartments on that street many times. I have never seen a gringo going in or out of the apartment in the video. I think it is the apartment building in the photo. I don't think it is a first floor apartment because the report said the two tried to escape on the roof.

As to what happened, I don't think the age of the girl had any bearing. The report said the gringo was found naked. I think he and the girl had sex, and he was taking a shower afterwards. While he was in the shower, the girl went downstairs and let the guy in. They intended to rob the gringo, but he resisted. There was a struggle and the gringo realized he was in trouble and began screaming. That's when a neighbor called the police. They slashed the gringo's throat and tried to find money, which was probably locked in the room safe. They stayed in the apartment too long and heard the police sirens, so they tried to escape through the roof.

IMO, the fatal mistake was resisting a robbery.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2113430]I think the gringo brought an u n d e r a g e puta back to his apartment, her pimp showed up, they tried a blackmail scheme, the gringo resisted, and they aced him. The moral would be, look at the fucking cdula FIRST, and be sure you know the difference between what 1/12/99 means in the Yew Ess and what it means in LatAm, Europe, etc.[/QUOTE]Good advice.

But I'd like to see more buildings with better security in Medellin. People off the street shouldn't be able to get to your front door without you giving the guards the OK to let them in.

I lived in a couple of buildings in Cali that put most of the ones I see in Medellin to shame when it comes to security.

The building I lived in had 4 armed guards 24/7 and an intercom system on the outside of the building.

So unless you lived there or you gave the guards the OK to let someone in. They never set one foot in the building and then once they got in they had to register with their cedula. Only ever had a few girls complain about registering and asked the guards why they had to. The guards simply told them because this isn't a public building.

And with all that security I still had a double cylinder deadbolt on the front door so the only person that could open it was myself.

Of all the short term rentals I stayed in in Medellin the only one that I felt had decent security was Energy Living.

If someone knows of other buildings with good security I'd like to know where they are located.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2113617]Good advice.

But I'd like to see more buildings with better security in Medellin. People off the street shouldn't be able to get to your front door without you giving the guards the OK to let them in.

I lived in a couple of buildings in Cali that put most of the ones I see in Medellin to shame when it comes to security.

The building I lived in had 4 armed guards 24/7 and an intercom system on the outside of the building.

So unless you lived there or you gave the guards the OK to let someone in. They never set one foot in the building and then once they got in they had to register with their cedula. Only ever had a few girls complain about registering and asked the guards why they had to. The guards simply told them because this isn't a public building..[/QUOTE]Edeficio Lugo al lado de Oviedo is secure with great porteros and surveillance.

[QUOTE=ThatKindOfGuy;2113633]Edeficio Lugo al lado de Oviedo is secure with great porteros and surveillance.[/QUOTE]There are dozens of buildings with good security. Most of the buildings in Poblado have excellent security.

But most mongers are looking for chica friendly apartments, and most of the places with good security have a problem with guys bringing in 4 different girls every night. Maybe because, letting lots of visitors into the building makes the building less secure, because too many mongers forget that normal families live in those buildings too. Not every parent wants to enter an elevator with their kids to find some old guy groping a young, scantily clad girl.

So many mongers are stuck in places with no security. Then there are the mongers who insist on no security, because someone asking their girls for cedulas will halt their activities.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2113760]many mongers forget that normal families live in those buildings too. Not every parent wants to enter an elevator with their kids to find some old guy groping a young, scantily clad girl.[/QUOTE]It is their money and their vacation and it is customary for old Colombians to have young chicks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113817]It is their money and their vacation and it is customary for old Colombians to have young chicks.[/QUOTE]Selective quoting for the win.

As of Saturday, I'll have spent 8 months in this building. Out of about 190 apartments, there is 1 other gringo. I'm also a frequent visitor to 2 other complexes, one with over 400 units. Not once have I seen an old Colombian bringing in a prepago, let alone 3 or 4 in the same day. Not once have I seen an old Colombian groping a prepago in the elevator. I did see a young Colombian couple getting a bit carried away once, but it was late night and they were clearly not expecting anyone else to be coming in.

When old Colombians have young chicks, they use discretion. They don't flaunt them in front of family and neighbors. They certainly don't bring them home and fuck them on the balcony.

It's their money and their vacation, yes. This might come as a shock to you: It's not their property, it's not their building, it's not their city and it's not their country. Other people live in the buildings, other people own the apartments, including the one they are staying in. Other people have certain expectations of how their neighbors behave while in the community areas of the building. Other people expect to be able to sleep at 3 am. Other people don't like meeting obvious prepagos in the elevator. Guess who wins when 5 apartment owners complain to administration about the behavior of the short-term renters at 1 or 2 apartments?

If most mongers weren't such clueless and insensitive idiots, chica friendly would rarely be an issue. However, they stupidly think "it's my money and my vacation, so I can do anything I want. "So they bring 4 guys and 6 prepagos back at 2 am, crank up the music and party till dawn. The long-term residents are greeted by puke in the elevator and a bunch of trashed hookers trying to catch taxis, or worse.

Chica friendly in a building with security will soon be a thing of the past, mostly because of the "my money, my vacation, fuck everyone else" ignorance.

Show respect, use discretion, consider the rights of your neighbors and you'll have fewer problems.

Are there any good swinger clubs in medellin. I will be there and me and one of my girls want to go.

Rather than taking women back to their apts, I think it would be more considerate, more fun and more adventurous to take a woman to a love hotel.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113817]It is their money and their vacation and it is customary for old Colombians to have young chicks.[/QUOTE]But the Colombians generally do it discreetly. I think it's customary to use a love motel. Which likely explains the prevalence of these places.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2113842]...If most mongers weren't such clueless and insensitive idiots, chica friendly would rarely be an issue. However, they stupidly think "it's my money and my vacation, so I can do anything I want. "So they bring 4 guys and 6 prepagos back at 2 am, crank up the music and party till dawn. The long-term residents are greeted by puke in the elevator and a bunch of trashed hookers trying to catch taxis, or worse.

Chica friendly in a building with security will soon be a thing of the past, mostly because of the "my money, my vacation, fuck everyone else" ignorance.

Show respect, use discretion, consider the rights of your neighbors and you'll have fewer problems.[/QUOTE]I agree with your point of view. When I am in Medellin, I stay in an apartment building with all short-term renters. I have witnessed the all night parties. Surprisingly, it is usually Latinos having the parties. I've noticed more gringos with the mindset described above in bars and restaurants.

But there are also the self appointed social police who want to eliminate all prostitution. There is nothing we can do about them, just let them let off steam.

You are correct on both counts.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2113817]It is their money and their vacation and it is customary for old Colombians to have young chicks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2113926]I agree with your point of view. When I am in Medellin, I stay in an apartment building with all short-term renters. I have witnessed the all night parties. Surprisingly, it is usually Latinos having the parties. I've noticed more gringos with the mindset described above in bars and restaurants.

But there are also the self appointed social police who want to eliminate all prostitution. There is nothing we can do about them, just let them let off steam.[/QUOTE]You always have those people to some extent. Some are upright women who want to cut mens' balls off. Some are hard core religious. Luckily in Colombia they haven't been able to override common sense yet. But they'll keep on trying.

What JB says about gringos being indiscreet is oh so true. What FL says about it's the latinos partying late and loud is also oh so true. What Mr. E says makes me want to steal his passport so he can't take that attitude on the road.

I will say that in over ten years of living in LatAm and Spain, I have never encountered puke in an elevator. Maybe I have just been lucky. Puke on the sidewalk, fairly often. But puke in an elevator? Never.

And I don't think that 'most' mongers are clueless, insensitive idiots. My experience is that most mongers are less clueless and insensitive than the average idiot tourist. They are more well traveled and have more incentive to stay out of trouble. [B]Some[/B] mongers, especially rookie mongers and especially mongers from rude places like the northeast of the US, urban England (the absolute worst in my experience), tend to give other mongers a bad name.

And tend to get their throats slit or end up in prison. That is just Darwin for the most part.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2113430]I think the gringo brought an u n d e r a g e puta back to his apartment, her pimp showed up, they tried a blackmail scheme, the gringo resisted, and they aced him. The moral would be, look at the fucking cdula FIRST, and be sure you know the difference between what 1/12/99 means in the Yew Ess and what it means in LatAm, Europe, etc.[/QUOTE]What's the difference?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2113945]What's the difference?[/QUOTE]We put the Month first then the day then year. Most, if not all of Latin & S. America puts the Day first then the month then the year.

For July 4th of 2018, we would put 7-4-18.

For the same day, they would put 4-7-18. Both indicate July 4th, 2018.

You were supposed to use this format on your customs declaration 2 X when you entered the country, one for your birthday & one for the current date.

The CEDULAs have the Birth Day first, the birth Month second & this is where the confusion comes in. If you are confused, guess her youngest age & cull them out from there, or better yet, if you are confused, skip & get the next one.

El Mechanico.

I had trouble connecting with girls on Photoprepagos and Mileeroticos and never did meet anyone. The response times are slow. Usually you have to schedule several hours in advance. Two chicas I chatted with on Whatsapp were Luisa +57 321 4469718 and Emiliana +57 301 2261894. Luisa wanted 300000 per hour and Emiliana was in the 180000 range. So if you going to go this route you need to plan ahead. It is not a spur of the moment thing based on my limited experience.

Plus I had difficulty with a chica I met last trip. I could never pin her down and then she would message me at 2 AM.

[blue]Stop posting full Telephone numbers.[/blue]

I had better luck with agencies on there. They would send me pics of who was available at the time.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2114107]I had trouble connecting with girls on Photoprepagos and Mileeroticos and never did meet anyone. The response times are slow. Usually you have to schedule several hours in advance..[/QUOTE]

Day / month / year = logical since years are longer than months, which are longer than days. Perhaps year / month / day would be equally logical, but month / day / year makes no sense at all. That follows the pattern of the US system of measurement, temperature, weight, etc. , none of which make any sense either. The only thing the Yew Ess gets right is the floors. That is not the first floor. It might be the first ceiling, but it ain't the first floor.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2114107]
Plus I had difficulty with a chica I met last trip. I could never pin her down and then she would message me at 2 AM.[/QUOTE]Coke head. Try a bit older next time. I've learned to avoid party chicas because they are unreliable and often behave very erratically.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2114107]I had trouble connecting with girls on Photoprepagos and Mileeroticos and never did meet anyone. The response times are slow. Usually you have to schedule several hours in advance. Two chicas I chatted with on Whatsapp were Luisa +57 321 4469718 and Emiliana +57 301 2261894. Luisa wanted 300000 per hour and Emiliana was in the 180000 range. So if you going to go this route you need to plan ahead. It is not a spur of the moment thing based on my limited experience.

Plus I had difficulty with a chica I met last trip. I could never pin her down and then she would message me at 2 AM.[/QUOTE]I think its hit or miss. My first night there was pouring rain, so I ended up texting 4 girls from photoprepagos and 1 of them responded and was at my place in about an hour, great service and attitude for 110 so I gave her 150. I do think I got lucky though and you are right about pre planning, but I also think its a numbers game, don't set your heart on one of them, choose 4 or 5 and one of them might be at your door.

The best part for me to learn was how many different types of hoes of different attitudes there were. The funniest thing I heard was a casa girl talking down on the Parque Lleras streetwalkers, she said there's a lot of putas out there. She was a sweetheart though but she definitely felt she was above the streetwalkers. Casa girls are hoes with jobs I guess. LOL. I met cokehead girls on the street that gave me a great time for the right price, more humble street girls who charged less and did more, I met cheap casa girls who were angelic sweethearts, and call girls that were very humble and sweet. I skipped the expensive Fase Dos experiences tho my friends went and said they were the most beautiful. I prefer sweet 7's over lame 10's. My future challenge will be finding a 10 that has the sweet attitude of a 7. My experiences were great overall I love it there and I will be back soon.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2114122]{Snip} That follows the pattern of the US system of measurement, temperature, weight, etc. , none of which make any sense either. {Snip}[/QUOTE]This issue has always intrigued me. Surely the US is one of the last countries still using the old outdated Imperial system of measurements (I'm open to correction, no time to Google). I don't understand why they don't get with the rest of the world and change to metric. Sure it will be hard at first and expensive for an economy the size of the US, but I would look at this problem similar to pulling off a bandaid. Do it fast and hard, short term pain for long term gain.

I just don't understand the US sometimes, but that just could be me I suppose.

[QUOTE=HolyTrinity;2114206]I think its hit or miss. My first night there was pouring rain, so I ended up texting 4 girls from photoprepagos and 1 of them responded and was at my place in about an hour, great service and attitude for 110 so I gave her 150. I do think I got lucky though and you are right about pre planning, but I also think its a numbers game, don't set your heart on one of them, choose 4 or 5 and one of them might be at your door.

The best part for me to learn was how many different types of hoes of different attitudes there were. The funniest thing I heard was a casa girl talking down on the Parque Lleras streetwalkers, she said there's a lot of putas out there. She was a sweetheart though but she definitely felt she was above the streetwalkers. Casa girls are hoes with jobs I guess. LOL. I met cokehead girls on the street that gave me a great time for the right price, more humble street girls who charged less and did more, I met cheap casa girls who were angelic sweethearts, and call girls that were very humble and sweet. I skipped the expensive Fase Dos experiences tho my friends went and said they were the most beautiful. I prefer sweet 7's over lame 10's. My future challenge will be finding a 10 that has the sweet attitude of a 7. My experiences were great overall I love it there and I will be back soon.[/QUOTE]From your lips to gods ears, very well said. I too have done all of the above in medellin, including the high end clubs at 300 m a pop plus drinks and shit, some great and some just so-so.

Yep that is ironic that a casa hoe speaks and looks down on the SW, its like WTF do they think they do.

TTM.

Guys,

Do yourself a favor, get a Colombian cupid membership, set up a profile and start communicating with girls on there 30 days before your planned arrival. Get yourself a whatsapp number to text with them. They will send you additional photos, videos. You can agree to services and terms all ahead time. Once you arrive, they will come to you and you will be very pleased. I have met quite a few girls in Medellin doing this. Never disappointed. Had so many lined up my last trip, I couldn't get to them all. They were all texting wanting to meet. Most of these were normal girls with jobs or they were students. I am trying to get back down there again after the first of the year. See some old friends and find some new ones. All will be done on Colopmbian Cupid. No need to have to rely on casa chicas or Parque Lleras street girls.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2114312]From your lips to gods ears, very well said. I too have done all of the above in medellin, including the high end clubs at 300 m a pop plus drinks and shit, some great and some just so-so.

Yep that is ironic that a casa hoe speaks and looks down on the SW, its like WTF do they think they do.

TTM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stykler;2114283]This issue has always intrigued me. Surely the US is one of the last countries still using the old outdated Imperial system of measurements (I'm open to correction, no time to Google). I don't understand why they don't get with the rest of the world and change to metric. Sure it will be hard at first and expensive for an economy the size of the US, but I would look at this problem similar to pulling off a bandaid. Do it fast and hard, short term pain for long term gain.

I just don't understand the US sometimes, but that just could be me I suppose.[/QUOTE]There was a time when the US tried to adopt metric, a few feeble efforts like speed limits in mph and kph, and they even taught in some schools for a very short time. I don't recall any attempts at Celsius. And yes, it's one of the last countries using SAE (Stupid American and English, I think it stands for), but I am in Guatemala now and they use pounds and gallons, but not feet and inches. Dunno why. I seem to remember that Perú uses gallons also.

One of the biggest PITAs about traveling with other people from the US is translating the distances and the temperature all the time. Look, I get that you can't speak another language because our educational system is shit and does not value it, but the metric system is fucking easy. Do you have twelve fingers and toes? No, unless you are Antonio Alfonseca. You have ten. And if water freezes at zero and boils at 100, can't you figure out 30 or 40? Oh, sorry, I forgot, you have no clue that water boils at 100 and freezes at zero. So in addition to helping you get laid because you can't learn another language, I have to tell you far five kilometers is. You know what? It is five thousand meters. That is how far it is and you owe me so many fucking beers more than you are buying me for translating. Your bus leaves at 17:00. Count it off on your metrically challenged fingers if you have to.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2114605]

One of the biggest PITAs about traveling with other people from the US is translating the distances and the temperature all the time. Look, I get that you can't speak another language because our educational system is shit and does not value it, but the metric system is fucking easy. [/QUOTE]I hear you Mr Dickhead, I hear you big time.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2114283]This issue has always intrigued me. Surely the US is one of the last countries still using the old outdated Imperial system of measurements (I'm open to correction, no time to Google). I don't understand why they don't get with the rest of the world and change to metric. Sure it will be hard at first and expensive for an economy the size of the US, but I would look at this problem similar to pulling off a bandaid. Do it fast and hard, short term pain for long term gain.

I just don't understand the US sometimes, but that just could be me I suppose.[/QUOTE]Just curious, why should they change it? What's the gain, economically speaking?

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2114605] One of the biggest PITAs about traveling with other people from the US is translating the distances and the temperature all the time. Look, I get that you can't speak another language because our educational system is shit and does not value it, but the metric system is fucking easy. [/QUOTE]It's not common for people outside the US to speak any other language than their native tongue when excluding English.

No reason the US should change its nonsystem. The rest of the world should just use our measurements and our language and watch our sports and listen to our music. And eat at McDonald's.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2114782]Just curious, why should they change it? What's the gain, economically speaking?[/QUOTE]The gain economically speaking is that metric's system of 10's is much easier than the BS that we use. And for a population as lazy as we are it should have been welcomed with open arms.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2114821]No reason the US should change its nonsystem. The rest of the world should just use our measurements and our language and watch our sports and listen to our music. And eat at McDonald's.[/QUOTE]Why? I think that Europe should keep their system and the US can keep theirs. I've never had any problems adopting to the system while on visit in the US.

The whole thing is just a non-issue and irrelevant for this forum.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114851]The gain economically speaking is that metric's system of 10's is much easier than the BS that we use. And for a population as lazy as we are it should have been welcomed with open arms.[/QUOTE]That really wasn't an answer on my question regarding how the change would affect the US economy positively.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114851]The gain economically speaking is that metric's system of 10's is much easier than the BS that we use. And for a population as lazy as we are it should have been welcomed with open arms.[/QUOTE]Years ago, there was a push for the US to move to Metric system. I remember that there were two mesurements on just about everything but then it stopped. I also remember big businesses were complaining the billlions in cost to change the packaging so I guess congress just nixed it. US was still dominant in the business but I think that will change once China takes over.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2114821]No reason the US should change its nonsystem. The rest of the world should just use our measurements and our language and watch our sports and listen to our music. And eat at McDonald's.[/QUOTE]A classic! Thanks for making my day.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2114782]Just curious, why should they change it? What's the gain, economically speaking?[/QUOTE]Not an economist, not in manufacturing, but I'd guess international trade. Let's say you make the best 1/2 " diameter pipe in the world. But someone who needs 1 cm diameter pipe won't buy it.

So your choice is to give up the metric market or to invest in additional design, manufacturing equipment, and testing so that you can sell to the metric market.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2114784]It's not common for people outside the US to speak any other language than their native tongue when excluding English.[/QUOTE]Obviously you haven't been to Europe then.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2114943]Obviously you haven't been to Europe then.[/QUOTE]I am European, but I am sure you know better.

For a change of pace, here's a review.

Last night I was trying to schedule a mini party with a girl who I'd promised a bottle of tequila and one of her friends, who is one of my favorites. Just to clear up any misconceptions, it was just planned to be a hang out and drink evening, not a backdoor attempt at a 3 some. Plans fell through, so I sent a message to a girl on my to-do list, but she didn't answer for 2 hours.

Meanwhile the "one of my favorites" hit me up to see if I was interested. I was. She came over late afternoon and once again cemented her spot on my favorites list. Details in a moment. After winding down and showering, she got a request to come see another monger. I walked her to a taxi and headed off to dinner. About 30 minutes later she messaged she was bored. Apparently, the guy wanted to hang out in the bar talking to the other gringos. She got a 1/2 payment for showing up and came out to hang with me.

When the rain finally let up she convinced me to bring her home with me. Another great session followed before she rolled over and went to sleep. No fuss this morning, she gave me a good morning greeting, showered and went on her way.

On to the details. She's old by Medellin standards, 30, has kids and is tall and thin. No ass to speak of and boobs are deflated. No other noticeable baby damage and she has legs for days. There are a few things that make her special. The main thing is her attitude. I don't like the term GFE, but being with her (YMMV) is like being with a girlfriend. She's playful and affectionate. I get an authentic make out session with her and a very natural cool down period afterwards. During sex she rides like she's really trying to get off, instead of the usual, trying to get you off as quick as possible. She also gives a top notch BBBJ with DT that is mind boggling. None of the 30 seconds and done crap. Last night she worked on me for at least 15 minutes, with hands, without hands, paying attention to everything and alternating speed, depth and everything else. I'm not a CIM, backdoor or BBFS guy so I don't know if those are available.

I'm not throwing her contact info out here because some guys are just clueless. However, I will share with those who have demonstrated the ability to play well with others.

If you're looking for the 18-20 big boobs, big booty, she's not going to appeal to you. If you're looking for an experience to remember, she might be what you need. I've gotten good feedback from 3 others on their experiences with her.

As always, YMMV.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2114963]I am European, but I am sure you know better.[/QUOTE]Before you keep making a knob of yourself, you might want to just read from the first paragraph on page one.

[URL]http://ec.europa.eu/commfrontoffice/publicopinion/archives/ebs/ebs_237.en.pdf[/URL]

Have a good day.

So, about the girls?

[QUOTE=Stykler;2115023]Before you keep making a knob of yourself, you might want to just read from the first paragraph on page one.

[URL]http://ec.europa.eu/commfrontoffice/publicopinion/archives/ebs/ebs_237.en.pdf[/URL]

Have a good day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stykler;2115023]Before you keep making a knob of yourself, you might want to just read from the first paragraph on page one.

[URL]http://ec.europa.eu/commfrontoffice/publicopinion/archives/ebs/ebs_237.en.pdf[/URL]

Have a good day.[/QUOTE]Having traveled Europe extensively since the late 70's, and having lived in Germany and the UK as a private citizen, I do have to agree with the OP. Most Europeans are not competent in any other language other than their own mother tongue and English. While the information in your link does present a different picture, the ideology the EU presents doesn't jib much with reality.

Its true that children are given a multi-lingual education in Europe but that doesn't seem to amount to any amount of foreign language competency in the absence of serious interest. Its not unlike Canada, where Anglophones outside of Quebec learn French in school. Yet I have never met a Canadian from outside Quebec who could speak French, nor wanted to speak French. Whenever I ask them if they can speak French, they seem to think its a odd question. If you are an Anglophone Canadian and you are reading this, maybe you can clarify this.

One thing I have learned about Europeans, based on 4 decades of exposure to them, is they typically don't like their neighbors and aren't too interested in learning their lingo. Dutch speak English as if it is their second native language but make funny faces if you ask them if they understand German or French. Germans are also very good at English, but they absolutely no interest in learning any of the the languages of their Eastern neighbors. In fact, they seem puzzled when I tell them I've visited Eastern Europe, a place they overwhelmingly regard with distaste. There is even a German beer called Moravia, but some Germans I met had no clue that Moravia was a historical nation of the Austrian Empire and the Eastern Half of the Czech Republic. I explained the German name to the region, "Maehren", but they had never heard of that, either. To them it was just the name of a beer. I've met Germans who spoke good Spanish and Italian. But that is because they liked to holiday in Spain and Italy, so it became expedient to learn those languages.

Further east during the Cold War, students in Central Europe had to learn Russian. Yet at the conclusion of the Cold War, they all forgot how to speak it. I found out it was a joke among the Czechs about how they couldn't remember a word of Russian. Every one of them I met has said, "I learned Russian in school, but I forgot all of it ". Russians who were living in the Baltic found themselves in a difficult situation after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Where Russian was once the only official language spoken, the indigenous languages suddenly became the de facto language, enforced by the new Nationalist regimes. Suddenly, these transplant Russians found themselves in a foreign country where they didn't speak the language.

English is popular, because of its placement in pop culture. Pop culture and English langauge media is a good teacher. My ex-wife and her daughter are ethnic Hungarians from Western Romania. Now there is a truly bi-lingual group of people, the "Erdelyi" (Transylvanians). Both had some compulsory English classes in school. But both assert that they truly learned to English on TV, not in the classroom. English is the most practical second language to know and its considered "cool" to be knowledgeable in English and a sign of sophistication to be fluent in it. They see German as a mere practicality for people who want to live and work in Germany. But there is no "cool" factor to German, despite its importance in economic situations. Germans seem to agree to some extent. Notice how German pop artists tend to sing in English? Note how the Scorpions sing all their songs in English. When the Scorpions covered a Hungarian, classic rock song ("Gyngyhaj Lany" by the group Omega) they translated the lyrics into English and gave it the title "White Dove" though the original song title means "Pearl-haired Girl". English, not German or Hungarian, is the expedient language for pop music and people who listen to pop music are often compelled to learn a bit of English. And I sense that many Europeans seem to feel if they know decent English, they don't need to bother learning anything else. And us monoglots in the Anglosphere came to the same conclusion. Personally, all I learned after living with two Hungarian females for 13 years is how to curse in their mother tongue.

This thread has been a real downer lately.

I don't see the value in arguments about the metric system, but an analysis of the death is fairly useful.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2115206]This thread has been a real downer lately.

I don't see the value in arguments about the metric system, but an analysis of the death is fairly useful.[/QUOTE][URL]http://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/...llin-CN7834567[/URL]

If you notice, poster Shoo Bree is a senior member but his posts don't appear right away. That means he is on moderation for previous bad behavior. He just sent me a PM which stated in part:

'it pleases me to know that you will be dead soon. '.

Probably, but also he accused me of voting for Trump and that is truly hilarious.

We can get back to pussy now.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2115222][URL]http://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/...llin-CN7834567[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like a scopolamine heist with a darker ending then most, might have given them too much.

"Cuban engineer died after being drugged in a bar in Parque Lleras".

See, just keep out of that dangerous part of town! LOL.

While more crime happens in Centro, more crime to foreigners happens in Poblado and Laureles because that's where the foreigners are.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2115259]Sounds like a scopolamine heist with a darker ending then most, might have given them too much.

"Cuban engineer died after being drugged in a bar in Parque Lleras".
[/QUOTE]Huh? The article clearly says "Los reportes médicos confirmaron que en el cuerpo del sobreviviente había rastros de un medicamento utilizado como sedante o para el tratamiento de convulsiones y epilepsias. Suministrado en altas dosis, esa sustancia es mortal." So unless scopolamine is used to treat epilepsy...

I would not pick up a women in Parque Lleras, that's just me, I avoid the high-charging super pros. But if I did, I'd like to try the old drink reversal. Let her order her drink first, then order the same thing. When the drink arrives go to the bathroom. Upon returning, insist on swapping drinks, telling her it's an old custom in my country. Think that would work?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2115271]Huh? The article clearly says "Los reportes mdicos confirmaron que en el cuerpo del sobreviviente haba rastros de un medicamento utilizado como sedante o para el tratamiento de convulsiones y epilepsias. Suministrado en altas dosis, esa sustancia es mortal." So unless scopolamine is used to treat epilepsy...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2115271]Huh? The article clearly says "Los reportes mdicos confirmaron que en el cuerpo del sobreviviente haba rastros de un medicamento utilizado como sedante o para el tratamiento de convulsiones y epilepsias. Suministrado en altas dosis, esa sustancia es mortal." So unless scopolamine is used to treat epilepsy...[/QUOTE]Which is why I said "sounds like" instead of "is like". Same MO either way, slip them a micky and then clean them out. Just sounds like maybe they gave them too much. Most likely a overdose of phenobarbital which is used for epilepsy. (other choices are phenytoin, carbamazepine and valproate).

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2115305]I would not pick up a women in Parque Lleras, that's just me, I avoid the high-charging super pros. But if I did, I'd like to try the old drink reversal. Let her order her drink first, then order the same thing. When the drink arrives go to the bathroom. Upon returning, insist on swapping drinks, telling her it's an old custom in my country. Think that would work?[/QUOTE]I just order something in a sealed bottle and then don't let it out of your sight. I also try to avoid chicks who want to drug & rob me. LOL.

He got slipped a mickey. The specific substance is, in my opinion, not as important as the event. It's very good advice to stay aware of who handles your food and drink. It helps to see these reminders regularly.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2115271]Huh? The article clearly says "Los reportes mdicos confirmaron que en el cuerpo del sobreviviente haba rastros de un medicamento utilizado como sedante o para el tratamiento de convulsiones y epilepsias. Suministrado en altas dosis, esa sustancia es mortal." So unless scopolamine is used to treat epilepsy...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2115305]I would not pick up a women in Parque Lleras, that's just me, I avoid the high-charging super pros. But if I did, I'd like to try the old drink reversal. Let her order her drink first, then order the same thing. When the drink arrives go to the bathroom. Upon returning, insist on swapping drinks, telling her it's an old custom in my country. Think that would work?[/QUOTE]Right. Worked out great in this video:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZSx3zNZOaU[/URL]

Jajajajjajajajaa!!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2115321]Right. Worked out great in this video:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZSx3zNZOaU[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2115206]This thread has been a real downer lately.

I don't see the value in arguments about the metric system, but an analysis of the death is fairly useful.[/QUOTE]That's the nice thing about being an unmoderated member of ISG. You can clog up the forums with chit chat about the metric system and your comments will be instantly posted. For moderated members like myself, we have to keep our fingers crossed that our comments will even be posted. I've personally had two comments that were not posted over the past 18 hours and they were direct responses to what other ISG members had written. In another forum, I saw an entire phone number posted with no redactions or infractions given, from what I could tell. It would be nice if the rules of ISG were enforced equally instead of whatever mood the moderators were in that day.

The metric system is based, as I understand it, on the abstract numbers derived from the size of the globe by French crazies during the French Revolution:

"What's a meter? It was originally set equal to one ten-millionth of the length of a longitudinal meridian between the equator and the North Pole. Go ahead, try to picture that in your mind's eye. Or don't bother, because the definition completely changed in 1960 when the meter instead took its basis from the wavelength of krypton-86 radiation. Far easier to grasp. But hold on! It changed yet again in 1983, and now it's the length of the path traveled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second. Makes you want to stretch your arm out from your sternum (A Yard) and call it a day. . ."

The US system is very easy: Want to measure roughly a inch? Use the length of your thumb. Want to measure a yard? It is roughly the distance between your sternum and the end of your finger. . . Want to measure roughly 5 feet? Walk 5 paces toe to heel. In short, the old measurement system in the USA is portable and based on human measurements. The metric system was based on abstract concepts beyond the use of the average Joe. America has the right system and doesn't need to change. Lift a "pint" of beer and rejoice!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114851]The gain economically speaking is that metric's system of 10's is much easier than the BS that we use. And for a population as lazy as we are it should have been welcomed with open arms.[/QUOTE]

This Thread [B]Reports[/B] is for information about getting laid in Medellin.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2115051]Having traveled Europe extensively since the late 70's, and having lived in Germany and the UK as a private citizen, I do have to agree with the OP. Most Europeans are not competent in any other language other than their own mother tongue and English. While the information in your link does present a different picture, the ideology the EU presents doesn't jib much with reality.

Its true that children are given a multi-lingual education in Europe but that doesn't seem to amount to any amount of foreign language competency in the absence of serious interest. Its not unlike Canada, where Anglophones outside of Quebec learn French in school. Yet I have never met a Canadian from outside Quebec who could speak French, nor wanted to speak French. Whenever I ask them if they can speak French, they seem to think its a odd question. If you are an Anglophone Canadian and you are reading this, maybe you can clarify this.

One thing I have learned about Europeans, based on 4 decades of exposure to them, is they typically don't like their neighbors and aren't too interested in learning their lingo. Dutch speak English as if it is their second native language but make funny faces if you ask them if they understand German or French. Germans are also very good at English, but they absolutely no interest in learning any of the the languages of their Eastern neighbors. In fact, they seem puzzled when I tell them I've visited Eastern Europe, a place they overwhelmingly regard with distaste. There is even a German beer called Moravia, but some Germans I met had no clue that Moravia was a historical nation of the Austrian Empire and the Eastern Half of the Czech Republic. I explained the German name to the region, "Maehren", but they had never heard of that, either. To them it was just the name of a beer. I've met Germans who spoke good Spanish and Italian. But that is because they liked to holiday in Spain and Italy, so it became expedient to learn those languages.

Further east during the Cold War, students in Central Europe had to learn Russian. Yet at the conclusion of the Cold War, they all forgot how to speak it. I found out it was a joke among the Czechs about how they couldn't remember a word of Russian. Every one of them I met has said, "I learned Russian in school, but I forgot all of it ". Russians who were living in the Baltic found themselves in a difficult situation after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Where Russian was once the only official language spoken, the indigenous languages suddenly became the de facto language, enforced by the new Nationalist regimes. Suddenly, these transplant Russians found themselves in a foreign country where they didn't speak the language.

English is popular, because of its placement in pop culture. Pop culture and English langauge media is a good teacher. My ex-wife and her daughter are ethnic Hungarians from Western Romania. Now there is a truly bi-lingual group of people, the "Erdelyi" (Transylvanians). Both had some compulsory English classes in school. But both assert that they truly learned to English on TV, not in the classroom. English is the most practical second language to know and its considered "cool" to be knowledgeable in English and a sign of sophistication to be fluent in it. They see German as a mere practicality for people who want to live and work in Germany. But there is no "cool" factor to German, despite its importance in economic situations. Germans seem to agree to some extent. Notice how German pop artists tend to sing in English? Note how the Scorpions sing all their songs in English. When the Scorpions covered a Hungarian, classic rock song ("Gyngyhaj Lany" by the group Omega) they translated the lyrics into English and gave it the title "White Dove" though the original song title means "Pearl-haired Girl". English, not German or Hungarian, is the expedient language for pop music and people who listen to pop music are often compelled to learn a bit of English. And I sense that many Europeans seem to feel if they know decent English, they don't need to bother learning anything else. And us monoglots in the Anglosphere came to the same conclusion. Personally, all I learned after living with two Hungarian females for 13 years is how to curse in their mother tongue.[/QUOTE]

Just depends who your friends are. Or were.

Moderate is another way to say filter. These boards are in no way a venue for free speech.

Some of the no no's we may understand, some we may not. I find this board, ISG, to be a little more loose. On "the other board" I was banned for not sure what. My hypothesis is that I was banging a chica who fell off the radar and while I was in real world face to face contact with those other moderators, for varios reasons, I didn't want to share. Although, I was never given a reason why I was banned, at this point it really doesn't matter / water under the bridge. I just know that I can't delete any of my previous posts and it seems to me like the moderators were a bit gossipy in exactly the way the rules state not to share info about the forum with outsiders. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2115415]That's the nice thing about being an unmoderated member of ISG. You can clog up the forums with chit chat about the metric system and your comments will be instantly posted. For moderated members like myself, we have to keep our fingers crossed that our comments will even be posted. I've personally had two comments that were not posted over the past 18 hours and they were direct responses to what other ISG members had written. In another forum, I saw an entire phone number posted with no redactions or infractions given, from what I could tell. It would be nice if the rules of ISG were enforced equally instead of whatever mood the moderators were in that day.[/QUOTE]

So yeah just wanted to say that Lady, a pretty young thing at New Life, gives an actual great full body massage. Not the lazy in a rush annoyed massage, but that smiling and singing along to the radio and constant relation and elbow grease type of massage. Great attitude for an hour nonstop massaging. I didn't even fuck her I was so tired and relaxed I just paid for my hour and told her I would be back. With that said New Life is a great place, chicaspuntocom lineup was lacking and it was just muggy in there and not a welcoming vibe.

Lleras has some great talent too. Just find the ones that smile and laugh a lot and they will usually work out well.

Hey guys,

Can we all be friends and forget our disagreements. Let's not forget the purpose of this forum. It is getting political in the way. I have FOX news for that.

Hey guys, I came across this website where this guy posts videos of various latin american women with wide, big thick booties.

[URL]http://megalatinassmodels.com/home/home.html[/URL]

Question: What country do you think he's visiting to find these ladies? Do you think I could find similar women like this in Colombia (Medellin or Bogota).

For people with more experience, can these women be found in Brazil or Dominican Republic?

I'm gearing up for a 'Latin Tour' and I essentially want to find women that look like the ones on that site. Looking for quantity and best value for my dollars. Anyone that could point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Mozam;2115989][URL]http://megalatinassmodels.com/home/home.html[/URL]

Question: What country do you think he's visiting to find these ladies?[/QUOTE]In the one picture that is the seal of Peru on the hat the girl has on. In the other picture the radio and sex furniture is Colombia.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2116016]In the one picture that is the seal of Peru on the hat the girl has on. In the other picture the radio and sex furniture is Colombia.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. I know Colombia is a big destination, but not Peru.

From what I've read on this forum it doesn't seem like guys particularly care for the pear shaped women.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I should be able to see these type of women relatively easily in Colombia for P4 P purposes correct? Medellin and Bogota should definitely have a good supply of these type of women. Correct?

[QUOTE=Mozam;2116019]Thanks for the intel. I know Colombia is a big destination, but not Peru.

From what I've read on this forum it doesn't seem like guys particularly care for the pear shaped women.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I should be able to see these type of women relatively easily in Colombia for P4 P purposes correct? Medellin and Bogota should definitely have a good supply of these type of women. Correct?[/QUOTE]Sure.

I'm a booty man and found big butts all over Colombia. Brazil is famous for their butts but generally in Brazil you will find taller types. Colombians tend to be shorter. Colombia is much cheaper than Brazil and I found Brazil has practically no bareback (unless you really slum it which I didn't).

Something to keep in mind. Bogota and Cartagena will have women from all over Colombia and Venezuela. If you want variety right now Santa Fe in Bogota has tons of chicas of all sizes, and the clock tower plaza in Cartagena. More pussy than you'll ever have a chance to fuck so good chance you'll get what you want there.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2114605]
One of the biggest PITAs about traveling with other people from the US is translating the distances and the temperature all the time. Look, I get that you can't speak another language because our educational system is shit and does not value it, but the metric system is fucking easy. Do you have twelve fingers and toes? No, unless you are Antonio Alfonseca. You have ten. And if water freezes at zero and boils at 100, can't you figure out 30 or 40? Oh, sorry, I forgot, you have no clue that water boils at 100 and freezes at zero. So in addition to helping you get laid because you can't learn another language, I have to tell you far five kilometers is. You know what? It is five thousand meters. That is how far it is and you owe me so many fucking beers more than you are buying me for translating. Your bus leaves at 17:00. Count it off on your metrically challenged fingers if you have to.[/QUOTE]One of the best posts I have read on this site. My PITA pet peeve. I gave up a long time ago trying to help people understand math. The average American, and probably everywhere else in the world, cannot divide / multiply by 10, much less 1. 6 (km to miles). Ask them to double the # of Celsius degrees then add 32 & you may as well bang your head against a brick wall. How do people that have to use a calculator to add 10 to a number, make it thru life?? The metric system will never work in the US as long as people here can't figure out 4th grade math. Very Sad!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2114851]The gain economically speaking is that metric's system of 10's is much easier than the BS that we use. And for a population as lazy as we are it should have been welcomed with open arms.[/QUOTE]That would mean the US general populous would have to learn something different. That'll never happen here. Several years ago Burger King came out with a 1/3 pounder hamburger as bigger version of their already popular 1/4 pounder. Well, nobody was buying it because, well, 3 is less than 4 so why should I pay more for less meat. Un-phucking-believable!! If that doesn't tell you how ignorant the masses are, you will probably choose a 1/4 pounder over a 1/3 pounder. SMFH!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Travv;2115417]The metric system is based, as I understand it, on the abstract numbers derived from the size of the globe by French crazies during the French Revolution:

"What's a meter? It was originally set equal to one ten-millionth of the length of a longitudinal meridian between the equator and the North Pole. Go ahead, try to picture that in your mind's eye. Or don't bother, because the definition completely changed in 1960 when the meter instead took its basis from the wavelength of krypton-86 radiation. Far easier to grasp. But hold on! It changed yet again in 1983, and now it's the length of the path traveled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second. Makes you want to stretch your arm out from your sternum (A Yard) and call it a day. . ."

The US system is very easy: Want to measure roughly a inch? Use the length of your thumb. Want to measure a yard? It is roughly the distance between your sternum and the end of your finger. . . Want to measure roughly 5 feet? Walk 5 paces toe to heel. In short, the old measurement system in the USA is portable and based on human measurements. The metric system was based on abstract concepts beyond the use of the average Joe. America has the right system and doesn't need to change. Lift a "pint" of beer and rejoice![/QUOTE]I learn something new everyday. I'm not going to Google it, I'll accept it at face value. Thanks, great intel there.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2116032]Sure.

I'm a booty man and found big butts all over Colombia. Brazil is famous for their butts but generally in Brazil you will find taller types. Colombians tend to be shorter. Colombia is much cheaper than Brazil and I found Brazil has practically no bareback (unless you really slum it which I didn't).

Something to keep in mind. Bogota and Cartagena will have women from all over Colombia and Venezuela. If you want variety right now Santa Fe in Bogota has tons of chicas of all sizes, and the clock tower plaza in Cartagena. More pussy than you'll ever have a chance to fuck so good chance you'll get what you want there.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the intel!

I had been debating between DR, Brazil and Colombia.

Seems like Colombia has won the battle. I have a few more questions I'll shoot in a PM.

[QUOTE=Travv;2115417]The metric system is based, as I understand it, on the abstract numbers derived from the size of the globe by French crazies during the French Revolution:

"What's a meter? It was originally set equal to one ten-millionth of the length of a longitudinal meridian between the equator and the North Pole. Go ahead, try to picture that in your mind's eye. Or don't bother, because the definition completely changed in 1960 when the meter instead took its basis from the wavelength of krypton-86 radiation. Far easier to grasp. But hold on! It changed yet again in 1983, and now it's the length of the path traveled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second. Makes you want to stretch your arm out from your sternum (A Yard) and call it a day. . ."

The US system is very easy: Want to measure roughly a inch? Use the length of your thumb. Want to measure a yard? It is roughly the distance between your sternum and the end of your finger. . . Want to measure roughly 5 feet? Walk 5 paces toe to heel. In short, the old measurement system in the USA is portable and based on human measurements. The metric system was based on abstract concepts beyond the use of the average Joe. America has the right system and doesn't need to change. Lift a "pint" of beer and rejoice![/QUOTE]Just a few corrections, for most 10-year old, a yard is much longer than the distance between their sternum and the end of their finger, so I guess that they just have to learn that it is the future distance between their sternum and the end of their finger. Oh, and as we're in roughly territory, it is also roughly a meter. And since the US system is so easy, I wonder how many people can say, without looking it up or grabbing a calculator, how many feet or inches are in a mile or how many cubic inches make a pint. Also, this pint you're lifting, is it a US or an Imperial pint?

Thanks Dream. Honestly, sincerely, can we leave this topic behind us, consider Dream's post the final word? How did we get on this topic anyway? No, forget that question, it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=LifesADream;2116166]Just a few corrections, for most 10-year old, a yard is much longer than the distance between their sternum and the end of their finger, so I guess that they just have to learn that it is the future distance between their sternum and the end of their finger. Oh, and as we're in roughly territory, it is also roughly a meter. And since the US system is so easy, I wonder how many people can say, without looking it up or grabbing a calculator, how many feet or inches are in a mile or how many cubic inches make a pint. Also, this pint you're lifting, is it a US or an Imperial pint?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ezkesey;2110014]Hello everyone,

I am going to Colombia for the first time in January 2018. I've already booked my flight but have not booked anywhere to stay yet. I am going solo and will be in Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. I can't decide if I should get a hotel room or a place on Airbnb. Which would be more chica friendly? Any particular areas in the 3 cities that are better to stay at? I prefer to stay in areas that are safe and near nightlife. I'm looking for recommendations.[/QUOTE]Ezkesey, I too, will be in Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena next month. I too, have mongered at Habano's Café in Panama City. PM me so we can compare notes and dates.

[QUOTE=Mozam;2116019]Thanks for the intel. I know Colombia is a big destination, but not Peru.

From what I've read on this forum it doesn't seem like guys particularly care for the pear shaped women.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I should be able to see these type of women relatively easily in Colombia for P4 P purposes correct? Medellin and Bogota should definitely have a good supply of these type of women. Correct?[/QUOTE]The first thing I quickly realized walking the streets of Colombia is that they got ass! LOL. The internet under represents Medellin asses at least. I remember thinking how is it that nobody told me about the variety you can find here? Many are fake but many are real. Put your mind at ease, you will find exactly what you need.

5,280,63,360 and about thirty depending if it is an Imperial pint (larger which is the ONLY good thing about English beer) or not. And I think you mean the first joint of the thumb, not the whole thumb (you know what they say about guys with small hands). Also US currency is appx 15.5 cm long and appx 6. 5 cm wide, and I have had [B]some [/B]success using that to help [B]some[/B] SAE users get [B]some[/B] idea. Sort of. Blind people probably think having all the denominations of bills the same size sort of sucks, although plenty of metric countries such as Argentina do that too. IIRC when the euro was introduced the various sizes of the bills being bigger as the denominations increased, was specifically to help the blind. If I have anything more to say about this, I will put it in chit chat.

Hello all,

I've no idea if this is in the right place or you get this all the time but eff it.

I'm a guy from the UK, totally inexperienced when it comes to seeking out paid sex. I've been travelling for a while and I'm up for experiencing some stuff. But the idea of entering that kind of world without knowledge to me, I feel like my naivete will be exploited.

If anyone wants to help a brother out, show a brother round medellin and give tips face to face, hit me up, it'd be truly appreciated.

Peace.

Although my Medellin trip hasn't started yet, I'd like to contribute a bit to the forums since people here have been pretty helpful thus far. Hopefully my experience building up a FB girl list would be useful for other newbies doing the same thing. I'm staying at the Mansion, so the girl list isn't as important, but it could be useful when the pickings are slim there. My main challenge is that I don't speak Spanish, and in the beginning, I had no way to distinguish which girls are both from Medellin and are actually working girls. Additionally, a lot of them didn't respond to my friend request so it was annoying in the beginning. So here I'll share what I learned and how I approached it. Of course what worked for me may not work for everyone.

Creating an FB profile:

I created a new FB profile for this trip. One thing that could always happen is you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a girl and she writes something unwelcomed on your timeline, so to avoid that it's better in my opinion to create a new account. Another thing is that FB is really good at suggesting to your real friends your P4P girls because you have a "mutual friend". I also used a different name because I used my real picture as the profile pic, and I don't want real life people searching for me and finding two accounts. This brings me to the profile pic, this is the most important part of the profile so I picked something that clearly shows my face, and choosing a photo where I dressed well helped me. My first profile pic had me wearing sunglasses and casual clothing, which seemed less effective. I don't think the girls really care about anything else other than the profile pic generally so it should be a decent pic. In the beginning, in my intro I put that I was coming to Medellin in December, and that did not help. Next, you could hide your friend list from other friends and hide from the public. I shouldn't have to explain the risks, but a potential benefit is that it could make it more obvious to some girls what kind of friends you're looking for. Keeping it hidden didn't seem to hurt me in the long run. Lastly, I blocked some of my real life friends who FB keeps on suggesting. If it's suggesting them, it's likely FB will suggest your monger account to them. After a bunch of targeted blocking, my real friends started disappearing from my suggestions list.

Finding girls:

As I posted earlier, my first attempt was to use the Facebook search function for "Medellin chica", "Medellin prepago" or some other search term. I knew I'd be lucky to pull up anything, and as expectation that's not useful. I think what I could have done was to set my city to Medellin and find people "locally", sending out lots of friend requests and messages in hopes that some stick. I didn't try that approach because others in the forums were kind enough to suggest some starter girls. There's another mongering forum with specific Medellin girl reviews, so I picked up a few FB profiles from there as well. Unfortunately most of these girls did not respond in the beginning because I think I had the wrong approach to contacting them. As someone else mentioned in these forums, getting a girl list is slow in the beginning and takes time, but later it starts rolling in. However they mentioned a neat little trick which is that for some of these "starter girls", their friend lists are public, and you can look for gringos in those lists. From those guys some of their friend lists are public as well, and you should find a treasure trove of other working girls. One thing to note is that anyone in Antioquia is a potential friend. Some are from Bello or Itagui for instance. Some girls don't have a city listed, but I just try to add them anyway if they're good looking. I did end up adding someone who was living in NYC and someone else from Brazil though.

My first contact with a (any) girl:

At first I was apprehensive about adding girls that are not working, but, as is when I was finding WeChat girls in the Philippines, you learn it doesn't matter, and if she's cute, just go and send a message with what you want. If they're not working they'll ignore you or block you, and you just move on. I'm sure younger girls on FB, even if they're not known working girls, get bombarded with a shit ton of random friend requests everyday, so a gringo asking for sex for money isn't something they've never seen before. If you do want to be more selective though, girls with butt shot / boob shot profile pics or no actual photo (like some artwork) are most likely working. As for the initial contact, I found that a friend invite + Facebook message worked the best. My first FB message was way too long, explaining I'm from the US, coming in December, a friend of mine told me about you, etc etc. A short message in Spanish (using Google Translate) saying that I'm visiting Medellin, and I would like to meet you was enough to get the point across. Enough to get a short conversation going at least. Some come back and ask when you're coming, where you're staying. At that point I tell them I use a translator and answer their question. All the girls I've started a conversation with had been very sweet, except for the first one who I forgot to tell I don't speak Spanish. She must have gotten annoyed at me for responding slowly or incorrectly.

Facebook magic:

Once you've gotten like 5 girls, look at the suggested friends list in FB and you'll start seeing a lot of girls pop up there. Now these girls have a lower probability than the ones in the gringo friend list of being a prepago, but you can filter out some or if you're adventurous, just add them all.

At the moment I've about 90 girls added to my friend list in about 3 weeks, and I don't want any more. Most likely I'll actually meet maybe 3 of them. In first 5 days I'd spend maybe half an hour a day trying different things, but once I got a process down, it took very little time each day. I think my response rate is about 50%, but I fucked up a lot of my initial contacts, so. Anyways I hear that if you're making an appointment, maybe 1 out of 4 will actually come through so I mentally divide the number on my list by 4. No idea how these girls will work out but some of them seem like they'll be good. Look forward to reporting at the end of my trip.

Come on guys stop screwing up this Thread with Chit Chat.

Put it here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]

This thread should be like this Thread:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports[/URL]

Hey y'all mates & parseros,

A brief of my last month visit to the sexy mamasita capital of the world.

First of all, saying that paisas are beautiful is an understatement. I would say there are no ugly ones. It's like boobjobs as standard equipment fuck yeah. From the very first girl (an immigration officer at MDE) to the last you will be looking at around 80% of all-equipped girls regardless they're pro or not.

OK, enough chit chat. Saturday 04/11 arrived to the Lleras Green hotel around 1 am after Jetblue's FLL-MDE and decided to hit the road at once. Had pre-booked with a venezuelan girl from photoprepagos (Lorena) [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/lorena-voluptuosa-y-arrecha-tu-diosa-full-oral-te-espero-id-pkh2k[/URL] and since we build rapport from the whatsapp chat we met at Lleras.

Good fuck, a bit mechanic though but treated me very well. 130 k pesos plus taxy either way and I wasnt charged overnight fee.

And now prepare to laugh your asses off because that my friends was the only prepago I managed to fuck in 10 days at the fucking world's prepago capital. Yes, I'm no kidding.

If dissapointed then skip otherwise if you want to keep laughing at me (or gain insight) keep reading:

The next day I walked to CC Monterrey to buy a sim card for my phone, got into a Tigo (mobile provider) shop and the girl servicing me started to smile. Solid 8.5/10 and as a fisherman I am I decided to throw the bait. Putting my rusty Spanish to the test and even matching the paisa accent I managed to get her number and her finishing time which was in 2 3 hours.

I decided to hit the empanadas kiosks around Poblado station in the meantime thinking WFT? Let's try her. 5 PM and she was waiting for me at the agreed point. Dinner, courting, flirting and yes sir. Sex in my hotel that very same night. Guys but not just sex. It was the very best fucking sex I've ever had. I called her a taxi around 11 pm after she sucked me dry and after she left I made a judgement call. Bear with me:

My budget was $500 for mongering which I calculated to approximately 9 fucks with decently hot girls. Since I'm not much into variety but good sex I then decided to stick with this girl and spent the money in a better hotel and court the girl out. This decision did paid off as I had the best sex I could imagine during 10 days, ended up with a virtual Colombian booty call, ready for me whenever I want via whatsapp (BTW: Whatsapp is free in most Colombian carriers) and ended up spending only a fraction of what I supposed to spend.

And if you're wondering: She never asked for a penny! She didn't even want me to spend in dining out and took me to less expensive (strato bajo) eateries when you definitely get a lot more bang for your bucks without jeopardising flavour (or safety for what matters).

The reason of my success: My spanish. At least I can now say that my mother sturdiness with my siblings and I to keep speaking Spanish at home was somehow useful.

Later loooosers! (Just kidding) See you in my next adventure: Kuala Lumpur.

[QUOTE=Snooplet;2116278]Hello all,

I've no idea if this is in the right place or you get this all the time but eff it.

I'm a guy from the UK, totally inexperienced when it comes to seeking out paid sex. I've been travelling for a while and I'm up for experiencing some stuff. But the idea of entering that kind of world without knowledge to me, I feel like my naivete will be exploited.

If anyone wants to help a brother out, show a brother round medellin and give tips face to face, hit me up, it'd be truly appreciated.

Peace.[/QUOTE]Look for replies in the General thread.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2116333]...Anyways I hear that if you're making an appointment, maybe 1 out of 4 will actually come through so I mentally divide the number on my list by 4. No idea how these girls will work out but some of them seem like they'll be good.[/QUOTE]Out of about 100 chicas I have made appointments with, the best I can remember only two or three did not show up. A few were up to two hours late, but they showed up.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2116529]Out of about 100 chicas I have made appointments with, the best I can remember only two or three did not show up. A few were up to two hours late, but they showed up.[/QUOTE]Not for me. In the past 2 trips, I have had 4 no-shows out of 12 I think.

Daisy- thick, dark skinned (morena) with very cute face. Has bad implants, the implant either moved or was implanted incorrectly. You can feel her natural breast tissue and then a few inches below you can feel the implant.

This girl looks good but has no interest in taking the dick. In mish, she does that move by closing her legs to prevent you from getting all the way in. Then in doggy, she keeps backing into you to prevent you from having room to get a good rhythm going. I was not being aggressive or banging her hard. I even told her that I didn't like it and she shouldn't do that, and she stopped just long enough for me to get a decent rhythm and then started that crap again. I cut the session short. I was pretty annoyed since I had told that I didn't like it. I just stopped and started getting dressed.

This chica had balls to ask for a tip. For the first time ever, I declined a tip. I replied with a firm "NO" and nothing more. I assume that she figured out why but I can't be sure. I had the urge to tell one of the bosses but decided to just leave, I don't need any drama over $17.

Good morning Gents was hoping you guys could give me tops for me and my two friends first trip to Medellin. We are renting a 3 bedroom apartment near Parque Lleras off of calle 8. Been to a couple of different countries but would like to know best approach and places for day game, where to go for the night game and if that doesn't work where are the hoes. Best strip clubs etc. LOL.

Thanks fellas!

[QUOTE=JoeBlow316;2116689]... but would like to know best approach and places for day game, where to go for the night game and if that doesn't work where are the hoes. Best strip clubs etc. LOL. [/QUOTE]If you are referring to "game" as finding chicks to have sex with without paying, your success will be very low. During the day, go downtown to the casas. Late night, go to the strip clubs or hang around Parque Lleras. Probably the best strip club considering price / quality ratio is Fase Dos.

[QUOTE=JoeBlow316;2116689]Good morning Gents was hoping you guys could give me tops for me and my two friends first trip to Medellin. We are renting a 3 bedroom apartment near Parque Lleras off of calle 8. Been to a couple of different countries but would like to know best approach and places for day game, where to go for the night game and if that doesn't work where are the hoes. Best strip clubs etc. LOL.

Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]Somewhere within the 24,400+ post in this thread you would have found the information you seek, if you had taken some time to look.

Best approach for day and night game is to be able to converse in Spanish, at least a basic conversation. Without that minimum, the best approach is to either visit an English speaking country or skip the game and go directly to "the hoes."

If you scroll down the Colombia page you'll find a thread called Medellin Lists. Reading that thread will lead you to the Medellin mongering map and list of addresses, operating hours and prices. Searching through this thread you'll find reviews of the specific locations and also warnings you may want to pay attention to.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=JoeBlow316;2116689]Good morning Gents was hoping you guys could give me tops for me and my two friends first trip to Medellin. We are renting a 3 bedroom apartment near Parque Lleras off of calle 8. Been to a couple of different countries but would like to know best approach and places for day game, where to go for the night game and if that doesn't work where are the hoes. Best strip clubs etc. LOL.

Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]1/2 HR intro to the Medellin adult scene in the vid on this page: (about a 1'50" intro) Vid is a few years old, prices a little cheaper now as the peso has dropped.

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL]

This is the most pitiful post I've ever seen on ISG. The guys who used to be willing to show you around, well, Noah died in a hail of bullets on La 70 in May 2012. And Colombia Jake, he hung himself in a Colombian jail in January of of this year.

Re tourists, two guys died in Parque Lleras last week, another is in the hospital.

Having said that, the first step is to toughen you up. I suggest you get a room at the Hotel Nutibara, and roughly at sunset, venture out. A $2 k Colombian gift to all and sundry street urchin, and when you see something interesting, take out your cell phone, preferably an IPhone, and film in a leisurely manner. Then, perhaps not long after the sun has set, walk down the block with Conejitas on your right, arriving the corner, take a right, then again some 300 yards up, another right, then that 500 yard stretch, another right, to arrive hopefully where you began. It is recommended you do these things each evening, say for 3 nights.

[QUOTE=Snooplet;2116278]Hello all,

I've no idea if this is in the right place or you get this all the time but eff it.

I'm a guy from the UK, totally inexperienced when it comes to seeking out paid sex. I've been travelling for a while and I'm up for experiencing some stuff. But the idea of entering that kind of world without knowledge to me, I feel like my naivete will be exploited.

If anyone wants to help a brother out, show a brother round medellin and give tips face to face, hit me up, it'd be truly appreciated.

Peace.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2117022]This is the most pitiful post I've ever seen on ISG...[/QUOTE]My friend, what is the point of your post? If you don't want to help your fellow mongers, just move on. No need to spend time and effort putting together this post. Two guys died last week in Parque lleras, so what! There are folks dying everywhere in the world, every day.

I have been here for 2 weeks now, staying not far from Parque lleras. I am there every day, for coffee, food, etc. It is a nice place to relax and enjoy the best of Medellin. I have never worried about my safety. All one needs is some common sense, which is needed anywhere in the world.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2117022]. Then, perhaps not long after the sun has set, walk down the block with Conejitas on your right, arriving the corner, take a right, then again some 300 yards up, another right, then that 500 yard stretch, another right, to arrive hopefully where you began. It is recommended you do these things each evening, say for 3 nights.[/QUOTE]LOL, every time I go to Conejitas I want to go check out Grill Occidental down the right on Carr 52 but that street does look kinda scary at night.

If you can't figure it out Lefeu, I'm not going to splain it to you. EOF

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2117026]My friend, what is the point of your post? If you don't want to help your fellow mongers, just move on. No need to spend time and effort putting together this post. Two guys died last week in Parque lleras, so what! There are folks dying everywhere in the world, every day.

I have been here for 2 weeks now, staying not far from Parque lleras. I am there every day, for coffee, food, etc. It is a nice place to relax and enjoy the best of Medellin. I have never worried about my safety. All one needs is some common sense, which is needed anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]

Well, I agree with the part about a room at the Nutibara.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2117022]This is the most pitiful post I've ever seen on ISG. The guys who used to be willing to show you around, well, Noah died in a hail of bullets on La 70 in May 2012. And Colombia Jake, he hung himself in a Colombian jail in January of of this year.

Re tourists, two guys died in Parque Lleras last week, another is in the hospital.

Having said that, the first step is to toughen you up. I suggest you get a room at the Hotel Nutibara, and roughly at sunset, venture out. A $2 k Colombian gift to all and sundry street urchin, and when you see something interesting, take out your cell phone, preferably an IPhone, and film in a leisurely manner. Then, perhaps not long after the sun has set, walk down the block with Conejitas on your right, arriving the corner, take a right, then again some 300 yards up, another right, then that 500 yard stretch, another right, to arrive hopefully where you began. It is recommended you do these things each evening, say for 3 nights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2117022] Then, perhaps not long after the sun has set, walk down the block with Conejitas on your right, arriving the corner, take a right, then again some 300 yards up, another right, then that 500 yard stretch, [/QUOTE]Following your directions, this would put one under the Prado metro station at approximately 7:00 pm (assuming you make it that far). This is precisely the time and place where a Brit blead out after refusing to surrender his immitation gold watch and gold chain in February 2011.

REPORT!

I have been here, my 2nd trip, for 2 weeks now. I made a couple friends from my last trip and saw them for the first week. I had met a college student off of SA, Angela and she WAS awesome, total GFE but this time much more like a pro. Before it was fuck, go somewhere, shopping or to eat back to the hotel for more sex. This time we met at a love motel and she was only told me the next day she was annoyed that I wanted to go a second time WTF, I paid for 3 hrs for the room. So she is now home for her Christmas break and won't be back until after I leave.

The second lady I met at Tantra massage got her number and we stayed in contact. I am staying at a hostel and the rooms are not very private, so we have been going to motels. After the first night she told me she does not want my money. So we have been meeting for dinner, I took her to sushi for the first time. So find a girl, treat her right and it can work out better than if you treat her like a working girl.

Went to Fase II for the first time Weds night. It was fun, BUT we had another lady from the hostel with us and a Colombian guy. We or she got alot of attention. Like getting to slip the dildo into the girl on stage and lots of up close pussy viewing. Then the dancers would come around and they would make her feel their tits. I went with a girl, kaily she was natural tits and pretty thin, cost is 190,000 for 45 min. Pretty expensive for Medellin but there was a lot of hot women. I did get Kaily number and will see if she do an hour for 150 k. I have been using tinder and lots of young girls but only one has given me a price, 250 k which is way too much. The focus of this trip is more about learning Spanish so I can get a non pro girlfriend. And looking into apartments for a longer stay. I will post another report in January before I leave.

[QUOTE=NormanStormin;2117196]Following your directions, this would put one under the Prado metro station at approximately 7:00 pm (assuming you make it that far). This is precisely the time and place where a Brit blead out after refusing to surrender his immitation gold watch and gold chain in February 2011.[/QUOTE]I have been there walking around many times at any time of the day and of the night, even after midnight.

Said so, just to highlight I am not one who remains at home to be safe, I cannot find the words to blame enough who wrote "I have never worried about my safety. All one needs is some common sense, which is needed anywhere in the world. ".

NO, common sense, unfortunately, may be not enough. Medellin is still not safe, and lots of caution is needed. I am ALWAYS WORRIED about my safety, and being worried is the key to be reasonably safe.

I really enjoyed your report. Thank you for writing it. I am confused about your choice of lodging, a hostel with limited privacy. I assume it is for cost reasons but that makes me question the choice of spending Fase II money.

If you aren't already aware, you can get clean and comfortable rooms from $25 to $35 in Centro or in the $50 to $70 range in much nicer hotels in Poblado. You will have privacy. The Centro places are girl friendlier than the Poblado places.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2117219]REPORT!

I have been here, my 2nd trip, for 2 weeks now. I made a couple friends from my last trip and saw them for the first week. I had met a college student off of SA, Angela and she WAS awesome, total GFE but this time much more like a pro. Before it was fuck, go somewhere, shopping or to eat back to the hotel for more sex. This time we met at a love motel and she was only told me the next day she was annoyed that I wanted to go a second time WTF, I paid for 3 hrs for the room. So she is now home for her Christmas break and won't be back until after I leave.

The second lady I met at Tantra massage got her number and we stayed in contact. I am staying at a hostel and the rooms are not very private, so we have been going to motels. After the first night she told me she does not want my money. So we have been meeting for dinner, I took her to sushi for the first time. So find a girl, treat her right and it can work out better than if you treat her like a working girl.

Went to Fase II for the first time Weds night. It was fun, BUT we had another lady from the hostel with us and a Colombian guy. We or she got alot of attention. Like getting to slip the dildo into the girl on stage and lots of up close pussy viewing. Then the dancers would come around and they would make her feel their tits. I went with a girl, kaily she was natural tits and pretty thin, cost is 190,000 for 45 min. Pretty expensive for Medellin but there was a lot of hot women. I did get Kaily number and will see if she do an hour for 150 k. I have been using tinder and lots of young girls but only one has given me a price, 250 k which is way too much. The focus of this trip is more about learning Spanish so I can get a non pro girlfriend. And looking into apartments for a longer stay. I will post another report in January before I leave.[/QUOTE]

I used to spend a lot of time in Medellin eight or so years ago and it looks like life is sending me back that way soon as a single man-- so I'm pretty psyched!

Of course, I'm also eight years older now, in my upper 40's, and wondering what I can expect from the non-pros these days. (FYI, I'm pretty fit and have fluent Spanish and good salsa skills). Curious how other guys around my age have been doing with non-pros. I'm just not attracted to anyone remotely near my own age and wondering about the current supply of non-pros in their 20's willing to date older guys. Unmarried / fit women in their early 30's would be great as well.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

SL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2117326] I am confused about your choice of lodging, a hostel with limited privacy.
If you aren't already aware, you can get clean and comfortable rooms from $25 to $35 in Centro [/QUOTE]Heck, I'd stay at the Hotel Kong for $12 a night before I'd stay at a hostel. (Kong is a love motel).

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/kong.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNYBHIFdXNfZmyIAQGYATHCAQp3aW5kb3dzIDEwyAEM2AEB6AEB-AECkgIBeagCAw;sid=d202c3f6076327b698ecb12783dd1348;atlas_src=sr_iw_title;checkin=2018-02-23;checkout=2018-02-28;dist=0;group_adults=2;nflt=di%3D4140%3Bpri%3D1%3B;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;srepoch=1513379220;srpvid=ba02a24e33bc001d;type=total&[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2117022] The guys who used to be willing to show you around, well, Noah died in a hail of bullets on La 70 in May 2012. And Colombia Jake, he hung himself in a Colombian jail in January of of this year.
[/QUOTE]There was another.

Who was the one out of Mayorista who used to feud with AussieGregg? Frank Casio I think it was?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2117274]I have been there (in centro) walking around many times at any time of the day and of the night, even after midnight...i am ALWAYS WORRIED about my safety, and being worried is the key to be reasonably safe.[/QUOTE]Somehow you have me confused here. You are always worried about your safety, yet you go to centro at all times of the day and the night. That is bizarre!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2117274]I have been there walking around many times at any time of the day and of the night, even after midnight.

Medellin is still not safe, and lots of caution is needed. I am ALWAYS WORRIED about my safety, and being worried is the key to be reasonably safe.[/QUOTE]Sounds more like you are vigilant and not necessarily worried. A worried person probably would not put themselves in the situation in the first place if they could help it.

A worried person would avoid the expressway because everyone is going too fast and weaving in and out of lanes, while a vigilant person would understand the dangers of driving on the expressway and take the proper precautions of wearing their seatbelt, using their turn signals, and having their head on a swivel.

So while I am not worried about being in downtown Medellin at all kinds of hours, I am still vigilant about it. I am worried about Caracas so I keep my ass away from there.

[QUOTE=SalseroLoco2;2117384]I used to spend a lot of time in Medellin eight or so years ago and it looks like life is sending me back that way soon as a single man-- so I'm pretty psyched!

Of course, I'm also eight years older now, in my upper 40's, and wondering what I can expect from the non-pros these days. (FYI, I'm pretty fit and have fluent Spanish and good salsa skills). Curious how other guys around my age have been doing with non-pros. I'm just not attracted to anyone remotely near my own age and wondering about the current supply of non-pros in their 20's willing to date older guys. Unmarried / fit women in their early 30's would be great as well.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

SL.[/QUOTE]You won't have any problems dating hot non-pros in their late twenties. If you live in Medellin and put yourself out there as a serious prospect. You know. Someone that is interested in a serious long term relationship that might lead to marriage, a house and some kids.

If that doesn't sound like something you are interested in. Then you can always stick with the pros.

There is a lot of gray area between non-pros and pros in Medellin. If you put in the time and effort you can find young extremely attractive chicks that will fuck you (or even live with you) for very little, which saves you the time and effort of lying to them about their long term prospects.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2117554]You won't have any problems dating hot non-pros in their late twenties. If you live in Medellin and put yourself out there as a serious prospect. You know. Someone that is interested in a serious long term relationship that might lead to marriage, a house and some kids.

If that doesn't sound like something you are interested in. Then you can always stick with the pros.

There is a lot of gray area between non-pros and pros in Medellin. If you put in the time and effort you can find young extremely attractive chicks that will fuck you (or even live with you) for very little, which saves you the time and effort of lying to them about their long term prospects.[/QUOTE]Thanks, man, this makes my day. The gray area with the semi-pros sounds like a good option. Not ready for that marriage / house business again just yet!

Of course I love the pros too, and one of my favorite things about Medellin was how often I'd have a great, almost GF, experience with the girls at places like Energy and Abydos. I loved being able to chase non-pros patiently without the pressure of needing to get to laid.

Just a few more weeks here in the frigid north.

SL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2117491]Sounds more like you are vigilant and not necessarily worried. [/QUOTE]We have partially disclosed our origin regions. You must be mother-tongue English speaker, I am not.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2117465]Somehow you have me confused here. You are always worried about your safety, yet you go to centro at all times of the day and the night. That is bizarre![/QUOTE]
Mr E has explained it, about being worried and/or vigilant.
However, I remember some warrior hero claiming a basic truth: a courageous soldier knows what is fear and beats it, limiting risks; someone who does not know what is fear (i.e., never worried) is not courageous, he is irresponsible.

I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.

[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2118053]I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.[/QUOTE]My advise would be buy a membership here so people can PM you and set up some meets with some ISG members, meet somewhere for dinner and then cab to the Centro clubs together if you don't want to do the high priced FaseDos / Isla scene. I'd try strip clubs, in descending order- Barre Ejectiva, Conejitas and Maracaibo, all in Centro. 2 are next door to each other and the other is about 3 blocks away. You could cab the 3 blocks if it is later as that stretch is a little sketchy, I have walked it as late as 2 am but I don't recommend it for everybody.

The only late Casa's I know of are at opposite ends of the spectrum with Linda Chicas-24 h I think, a few girls on and she will call for more I think but seemed high price in the last reports, and Yakuza at the low end, opens like 9 to 10 am-ish till 2 am /4 am-ish- very much a lower class locals joint, usually only a few girls on but gets occasional cute ones but it's a very small place, you and a couple locals sitting on a couch while the girls come and go from the back, they do sell beers though and is 45 k for 1/2 HR and no exit fee to take the girl somewhere close by. Which I recommend as the room I used there, the one right off the lobby was not very nice. It did get 1st Place in the Creepy Shack motif division though. Both Casa's are in Centro.

Yakuza-Carrera-50 a # 53-38 -basically behind the Hotel Nutribara which is right across from Botero Plaza-if the cab driver acts stupid tell him the block where the buses to the airport park. Yakuza is behind a mirrored glass door, just left of the Hotel Deseos, I think a love hotel so you could take the girl there.

Casa de Piedra / Lindas Chicas-Calle 58 (Ave Oriental) #50 a-54-behind white metal gate-rock structure.

Conejitas (Playmates) Show Bar-Calle 53 #51-41 Under the big Playboy Bunny ears sign, right across from Plaza Botero.

Ejecutiva Strip Club-Calle 53 (Ave Maracaibo) #49-70 with Club Maracaibo about 2 doors to the left.

(and a bonus picture of Energy which can be hard for some cabbies).

Luna Lunera is open and staffed 24/7. The cost is $110 K per half hour. Buying drinks or lady drinks is optional and so are lap dances or anything other than taking a girl to a room for the price mentioned. They do charge for condoms. I can't tell you how much and it doesn't matter if you bring your own. The quality of the girls is generally as good or better than any of the Centro places.

[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2118053]I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.[/QUOTE]

I think this is a perfect response, honest and accurate.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2117554]You won't have any problems dating hot non-pros in their late twenties. If you live in Medellin and put yourself out there as a serious prospect. You know. Someone that is interested in a serious long term relationship that might lead to marriage, a house and some kids.

If that doesn't sound like something you are interested in. Then you can always stick with the pros.

There is a lot of gray area between non-pros and pros in Medellin. If you put in the time and effort you can find young extremely attractive chicks that will fuck you (or even live with you) for very little, which saves you the time and effort of lying to them about their long term prospects.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2118053]I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.[/QUOTE]Just north of El Poblado is San Diego which has Fase II strip club. It's more expensive than centro though. Strip clubs in Colombia will either have rooms on the premise or a love hotel next door to fuck the chica in.

[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2118053]I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.[/QUOTE]There's a place in Poblado, up the hill from Parque Lleras that says they are open 24 hours. I haven't ventured up there yet, but I've talked to them a few times. They haven't posted anything for a few weeks, so they may be closed.

Search Spaerotic Poblado on Facebook for their page. I believe rates start at 100 k.

I've been told that Lindas Chicas has girls available 24 hours, not sure about on premise hours. I don't know of anything else outside of strip clubs for late night on premise options.

Go to casas before 7 pm. There is no night time casa in El Centro.

[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2118053]I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.[/QUOTE]

Strip clubs are about the only option for "night mongering" if you are not into streetwalkers or the Lleras scene. I get your hesitation for not wanting to go to the Centro clubs alone. It took me a couple of trips to MDE before I felt comfortable in the city to venture into those establishments alone. While I've never had any issues wit the locals, you need to remember most of the dudes at these places are getting shit faced, and snorting lines of coke in the bathroom.

Send me a PM, letting me know when you'll be in town. Then, if you want, I can take you around to check out these clubs and get your tree trimmed for about 70-90 k.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=MaliBog420;2118053]I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good night time casa options. Looks like most centro casas close by about 7 pm.

I know energy is open till 9 pm (though does that mean walk in before 9 or finish before 9?

Basically I am trying to see what options there are other than tourist expensive (Fase! Or pretty sketchy (centro stripclubs at night).

I am a bit leery of going to centro stripclubs as I will be traveling solo and while my Spanish is medium good and I dress pretty local (jeans and t-shirt) I look kind of gringo as my skin and hair are pale.

I will be in town for three weeks this January and hopefully will be able to give some good info back to the forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2117491]

So while I am not worried about being in downtown Medellin at all kinds of hours, I am still vigilant about it. I am worried about Caracas so I keep my ass away from there.[/QUOTE]I feel more "worried" walking around el centro Medellin than el centro Caracas. Medellin has FAR more thuggy gangmember looking characters than Caracas. And also Caracas isn't crawling with crackheads, glue sniffers, and syringe toting drug addicts like Medellin is. But then again you wouldn't be walking around late at night in Caracas anyway since it's dead at night with nothing going on.

[QUOTE=Judd;2118178]Send me a PM, letting me know when you'll be in town. Then, if you want, I can take you around to check out these clubs and get your tree trimmed for about 70-90 k.


Judd.[/QUOTE]Either I'm too young or too old but I have never heard that expression before! And I can't seem to find it on urban dictionary. What does that mean "getting your tree trimmed"?

How does Christmas affect the brothels being open?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2118352]Either I'm too young or too old but I have never heard that expression before! And I can't seem to find it on urban dictionary. What does that mean "getting your tree trimmed"?[/QUOTE]There's no tree involved. Look up trim (noun).

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2118133]Luna Lunera is open and staffed 24/7. The cost is $110 K per half hour. Buying drinks or lady drinks is optional and so are lap dances or anything other than taking a girl to a room for the price mentioned. They do charge for condoms. I can't tell you how much and it doesn't matter if you bring your own. The quality of the girls is generally as good or better than any of the Centro places.[/QUOTE]The nice about Luna Lunera is they have that courtyard you can taxi right in to and out of late at night, keeps you off the streets.

Their website:

[URL]http://lunalunera.com.co/[/URL]

And I don't advise Centro at night to novice's to dangerous big city Latin America, at least not solo. Have 1 person who speaks decent Spanish with you, don't wear jewellery or nice watch, don't flash your phone or cash, don't get drunk, don't draw to much attention. Dress like going to Home Depot to pick up lumber.

But on the other hand:

Every Centro strip club chick you do will save you 100 k pesos over every FaseII chick. Not including FaseII cover and alcohol prices. And I have seen some Centro strippers who could work at FaseII, they just didn't like all the rules there. Some hot chicks like to be big fish / small pond. Sometimes you have to wait a bit till the one you will like gets on the floor or shows up to work but there are worse places to hang out. Better on weekends but the hot ones will usually work a couple weekday shifts also.

And every Centro short-time motel chick will save you up to 160 k over FaseII. They are a safer day time pursuit then night though. Again not for the faint of heart.

Hola. Colombia has beautiful women si.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/modeloscolombianasoficial/[/URL]

But girls in centro, casa, are average. Maybe fas dos or other strip clubs has above average.

So many never experience with model colombian beauty, like esperanza gomez. Many in mansion, centro, casa are average grirls with braces not models.

So why Colombia so good?? Because of price??

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2118569]Hola. Colombia has beautiful women si.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/modeloscolombianasoficial/[/URL][/QUOTE]Eh, I see a lot of silicone, implants, and collagen injections in those photos. If you put any of those women under hot lights or in direct sunlight, they'd probably start to melt after a few minutes!

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2118569]Hola. Colombia has beautiful women si.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/modeloscolombianasoficial/[/URL]

But girls in centro, casa, are average. Maybe fas dos or other strip clubs has above average.

So many never experience with model colombian beauty, like esperanza gomez. Many in mansion, centro, casa are average grirls with braces not models.

So why Colombia so good?? Because of price??[/QUOTE]First, I would not use those plastic barbies as the barometer for beauty.

Second, if you are looking for models, you are going in with the wrong mindset, probably completely jaded from watching too much porn. The women in Medellin are beautiful, each one in her own way. If you are going in looking with the current mindset, don't waste your time, you will be disappointed.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2117448]There was another.

Who was the one out of Mayorista who used to feud with AussieGregg? Frank Casio I think it was?[/QUOTE]When I first went to Medellin about 6 or 7 years ago I used a guy named William. He knows all the places. But I think in the last couple years he has been doing good just doing regular tourist stuff. So, I don't think he does the tours of lady places so much anymore. But I know he will still do it. He probably charges more these days though, and the last couple years he always seems busy. You can Google Best Guide Medellin. He will be the first listed website. Since he always seems busy I don't even tell him when I go to Medellin anymore. We used to be pretty close as friends for awhile.

Sammy says this to Frasier Crane who agrees to go out with him to pickup chicks. He also says, "your going to see a beautiful woman from across the room. She's someone that you dream about being with. Now, her friend is for you.” Classic!

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2118352]Either I'm too young or too old but I have never heard that expression before! And I can't seem to find it on urban dictionary. What does that mean "getting your tree trimmed"?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2118569]Hola. Colombia has beautiful women si.
But girls in centro, casa, are average. Maybe fas dos or other strip clubs has above average.[/QUOTE]We must have a different concept of "beauty" and "attractiveness". In that gallery, I see lots of silicon and plastic. Not really what may raise my senses and attract me.

In centro and streets, where of course 99% of girls are NOT working neither could be on sale, lots of pure natural beauty to my eyes. I fall in love, literally, every 5 minutes I walk around the streets of Medellin. This does not happen (again, to me) in ANY street of the USA or my country. That's a good reason to move my ass and go there (I am from Europe).

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2118504]The nice about Luna Lunera is they have that courtyard you can taxi right in to and out of late at night, keeps you off the streets.[/QUOTE]What's the reason to keep off the street?
Right across the street of LL, there is (was?) a nice bar with loud music, drinks and of course plenty of local youth. A good place to go, if LL does not offer anything interesting (or with one of the girls, after she ends her shift).

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2118729]What's the reason to keep off the street?
Right across the street of LL, there is (was?) a nice bar with loud music, drinks and of course plenty of local youth. A good place to go, if LL does not offer anything interesting (or with one of the girls, after she ends her shift).[/QUOTE]Well I spend 99% of my time on foot in Centro so I have no reason but some seem to feel like they are being dropped in the middle of "Operation Phantom Fury", aka The Second Battle of Fallujah and a courtyard drop off might ease their worries some and get them out of the Mansion more. LOL.

Anyone know if the new Marriott in Poblado has any issues with bringing girls in? Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2118728]We must have a different concept of "beauty" and "attractiveness". In that gallery, I see lots of silicon and plastic. Not really what may raise my senses and attract me.

In centro and streets, where of course 99% of girls are NOT working neither could be on sale, lots of pure natural beauty to my eyes. I fall in love, literally, every 5 minutes I walk around the streets of Medellin. This does not happen (again, to me) in ANY street of the USA or my country. That's a good reason to move my ass and go there (I am from Europe).[/QUOTE]I ditto your statements but I seem to fall in love some days about every 3 minutes on average, jejejeje.

TTM.

It appears, and we all think, that we like girls in Medellin. In actuality we just like weak currencies against our home currencies. Would you go to Medellin for "beautiful girls" if the rate was $1=100 pesos?

[QUOTE=Queens35;2118592]First, I would not use those plastic barbies as the barometer for beauty.

Second, if you are looking for models, you are going in with the wrong mindset, probably completely jaded from watching too much porn. The women in Medellin are beautiful, each one in her own way. If you are going in looking with the current mindset, don't waste your time, you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]

Yea to each their own. But when people think of Colombian women I think average person will think of silicone and big butts.

Cosmetic surgery, implants that is what Colombia is known for si, like Brazil as well I bet.

For some that maybe beauty others not.

But if you go to Costa Rica. San jose, the colombian women you see there are the ones with silcone as well and want starting 100 cien I think.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2118728]We must have a different concept of "beauty" and "attractiveness". In that gallery, I see lots of silicon and plastic. Not really what may raise my senses and attract me.

In centro and streets, where of course 99% of girls are NOT working neither could be on sale, lots of pure natural beauty to my eyes. I fall in love, literally, every 5 minutes I walk around the streets of Medellin. This does not happen (again, to me) in ANY street of the USA or my country. That's a good reason to move my ass and go there (I am from Europe).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2118889]It appears, and we all think, that we like girls in Medellin. In actuality we just like weak currencies against our home currencies. Would you go to Medellin for "beautiful girls" if the rate was $1=100 pesos?[/QUOTE]I for one would go. But I'm very into Colombian women.

Even when I jack off I only think of colombianas and they are usually the women I have already fucked.

I think I must enjoy Colombia more than most.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2118889]It appears, and we all think, that we like girls in Medellin. In actuality we just like weak currencies against our home currencies. Would you go to Medellin for "beautiful girls" if the rate was $1=100 pesos?[/QUOTE]Your question borders on absurdity. You're asking if we would go if the dollar had 3,000% inflation, or the peso had deflation against the dollar of 3,000%. If that happened, I think most of us wouldn't even get on an airplane. If the price of everything was the same as Costa Rica or 20% more, I would still go to Colombia. I think Colombia is that much better.

[QUOTE=Chb1234;2118851]Anyone know if the new Marriott in Poblado has any issues with bringing girls in? Thanks.[/QUOTE]With 99.999% probability, YES. ALL upscale hotels in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena, most important Colombian cities, DO NOT allow guests to bring other people in room. They must register, pay a LOT surcharge, and in some cases they must even register ON THE FIRST DAY (to avoid casual guests coming during the stay). It's such a well known thing.

Make a search here for "hotels", then for "motel" and "love hotel". Plenty of luxury and low-cost solutions to have some hours of fun with the lover.

Are the brothels on a holiday schedule or normal hours?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Judd;2118178]Strip clubs are about the only option for "night mongering" if you are not into streetwalkers or the Lleras scene. I get your hesitation for not wanting to go to the Centro clubs alone. It took me a couple of trips to MDE before I felt comfortable in the city to venture into those establishments alone. While I've never had any issues wit the locals, you need to remember most of the dudes at these places are getting shit faced, and snorting lines of coke in the bathroom.

Send me a PM, letting me know when you'll be in town. Then, if you want, I can take you around to check out these clubs and get your tree trimmed for about 70-90 k.

Late,

Judd.[/QUOTE]Would be great to meet up with you guys. I'm arriving the end of December. Will be there at least 6 months. I've mongered around the world. My Spanish, not so good. Will be taking lessons.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2119710]Are the brothels on a holiday schedule or normal hours?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]Holiday hours and not as many women working. Christmas and Easter are big holidays in Colombia where people go spend time with family. Yes, you'll still find hookers but not nearly as many.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2119852]Holiday hours and not as many women working. Christmas and Easter are big holidays in Colombia where people go spend time with family. Yes, you'll still find hookers but not nearly as many.[/QUOTE]I would be surprised to find any girl working on Christmas. I cannot imagine anything more sad than any girl waiting customers in a brothel instead of enjoying the holiday with family, and even more in Colombia, one of the most Catholic countries in the world.

Has anyone stayed here? I hear it's girl / guest friendly. Is that your experience? Any recent feedback? Thanks.

Girls will be working, but casas are generally closed. These girls deal with many situations that don't allow them to share you social sensitivity. Some of them are away from their families for various reasons (E. G. Some are unable or unwilling to return to their home countries, especially Venezuela, others are escapees from abusive family situations). Remember that this is how they earn money. Just like us, their expenses increase during the holidays. There is a meme making the rounds on social media of a particularly unattractive old man being kissed and hugged by a pretty young girl. The caption's translation: "the holidays are here, we have to buy clothes and shoes".

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2119863]I would be surprised to find any girl working on Christmas. I cannot imagine anything more sad than any girl waiting customers in a brothel instead of enjoying the holiday with family, and even more in Colombia, one of the most Catholic countries in the world.[/QUOTE]

Not a chica report but I found this interesting.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoyweeHXKR8[/URL]

Geriatric stoner who likes smoking and talking about weed.

[QUOTE=TyDown;2119998]Not a chica report but I found this interesting.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoyweeHXKR8[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BounceWithMe;2119953]Has anyone stayed here? I hear it's girl / guest friendly. Is that your experience? Any recent feedback? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, guest friendly. Good location, English speaking front desk team. I did not stay there, but visited on occasions and saw girls leaving in the morning.

I visited Tantra MP in Laureles area. About 7-8 chicas were available, 6-8's on my standard. I picked a girl name Mariana, 22 yrs, all naturals, big boobs with great attitude.

130 mil for an hour. The room was clean with big bathroom. CBJ but she licked my little brother and balls without condom (weird? I tipped her 20 mil.

Anyways, I had a great time and highly recommend this place.

I was in Fase Dos last night and most of the girls have gone for Christmas, there were about 13 girls working with few about 15 guys. The girls dropped their prices and some were willing to come back to my apartment for 400 mil.

Does anyone know which Casas and Strip Clubs are open today and tomorrow?

400 mil? LOL! That is a Christmas gift I definitely don't want.

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2120676]I was in Fase Dos last night and most of the girls have gone for Christmas, there were about 13 girls working with few about 15 guys. The girls dropped their prices and some were willing to come back to my apartment for 400 mil.

Does anyone know which Casas and Strip Clubs are open today and tomorrow?[/QUOTE]

Crazy and rare as it is it happened. Not a pro ho or SA girl. Stoked because we hit it off like some kinda cosmic intervention! 167 cm 105 pounds of delicious perfection.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2119020]Yea to each their own. But when people think of Colombian women I think average person will think of silicone and big butts.

Cosmetic surgery, implants that is what Colombia is known for si, like Brazil as well I bet.

For some that maybe beauty others not.

But if you go to Costa Rica. San jose, the colombian women you see there are the ones with silcone as well and want starting 100 cien I think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2120676]I was in Fase Dos last night and most of the girls have gone for Christmas, there were about 13 girls working with few about 15 guys. The girls dropped their prices and some were willing to come back to my apartment for 400 mil.

Does anyone know which Casas and Strip Clubs are open today and tomorrow?[/QUOTE]You sure the dropped their prices?

This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! I'm flying out March 13th and staying until the 19th and I have a bunch of questions. So I'm going with a group of 10 total and none of us speak Spanish very well, do you think we would be able to get around easily with a big group with out any problems? I believe we are staying in El Poblado in an airbnb. What is the best option when trying to meet women? I've read that you can go to strip clubs, massage parlors etc. But I know my guys would like to find women they can take back to the airbnb and have them stay the night for example, going to a local bar or club and picking women up there. So what would be our best options since we don't speak Spanish that well? Also my guys won't listen to me when I tell them that I did the research and that we probably should not be flashy while with out there, I read it everywhere saying don't wear jewelry or flashing clothing and my guys like to flash what should I tell them? Lastly, even though we all came to Colombia for the women we also would like to do so site seeing and finding fun things to do other than drinking and sleeping with women, what else does Medellin have to offer?

I wish you good luck because you are going to need it. Search these threads for information about Facebook girls. They are a good option for girls you want to come to your airbnb. You can use one of the many translation (babelfish, google translate, etc.) services to communicate with them via messenger. In case you don't want to bother reading the threads carefully, a very important point is to create a facebook account for this purpose only. It will help avoid friends and family getting wind of what you are up to. Another thing to focus on is information about reasonable prices to pay. You will get unreasonable offers but if you take advantage of information on this forum you will know which offers to decline.

So back to why I think you will need good luck. Any kind of travel is more complicated with a large group. You will attract attention because of the size of the group alone. If you insist on flaunting signs of wealth, you will attract the kind of attention you don't really want to attract. The news is not all bad, one advantage of a group that size is you are much less likely to be attacked. Even well armed criminals would have trouble getting away with going after a large group of men.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! I'm flying out March 13th and staying until the 19th and I have a bunch of questions. So I'm going with a group of 10 total and none of us speak Spanish very well, do you think we would be able to get around easily with a big group with out any problems? I believe we are staying in El Poblado in an airbnb. What is the best option when trying to meet women? I've read that you can go to strip clubs, massage parlors etc. But I know my guys would like to find women they can take back to the airbnb and have them stay the night for example, going to a local bar or club and picking women up there. So what would be our best options since we don't speak Spanish that well? Also my guys won't listen to me when I tell them that I did the research and that we probably should not be flashy while with out there, I read it everywhere saying don't wear jewelry or flashing clothing and my guys like to flash what should I tell them? Lastly, even though we all came to Colombia for the women we also would like to do so site seeing and finding fun things to do other than drinking and sleeping with women, what else does Medellin have to offer?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! ... I'm going with a group of 10 total and none of us speak Spanish very well, do you think we would be able to get around easily with a big group with out any problems? ... Also my guys won't listen to me ... my guys like to flash what should I tell them? [/QUOTE]You, sir, are in a world of hurt. This is like every single rookie mistake all rolled into one. Read the forum carefully and I wish you the best of luck.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! I'm flying out March 13th and staying until the 19th and I have a bunch of questions. So I'm going with a group of 10 total and none of us speak Spanish very well, do you think we would be able to get around easily with a big group with out any problems? I believe we are staying in El Poblado in an airbnb. What is the best option when trying to meet women? I've read that you can go to strip clubs, massage parlors etc. But I know my guys would like to find women they can take back to the airbnb and have them stay the night for example, going to a local bar or club and picking women up there. So what would be our best options since we don't speak Spanish that well?[/QUOTE]March 13th? Excellent! You have about 11 weeks to RTFF and be brought up to speed on how to navigate Medellin.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]Also my guys won't listen to me when I tell them that I did the research and that we probably should not be flashy while with out there, I read it everywhere saying don't wear jewelry or flashing clothing and my guys like to flash what should I tell them?[/QUOTE]Tell them to make sure their medical coverage also applies to Colombia, especially in regards to doctors and hospitals. Your posse sounds like an arrogant bunch that will actively resist any robbery brought on by them flashing smartphones, jewellery, and cash. That situation usually doesn't end up too well in any country.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]Lastly, even though we all came to Colombia for the women we also would like to do so site seeing and finding fun things to do other than drinking and sleeping with women, what else does Medellin have to offer?[/QUOTE]Pick up a copy of Lonely Planet Colombia on Amazon. You don't have to read the entire book, just the chapter on Medellin and the short chapters on towns near Medellin, as there are many cheap, easy, and interesting day trips you can take from Medellin. Also, spend a little time on TripAdvisor in the Medellin forum, as there is quite a bit of information posted there from travelers who have been to Medellin and people who actually live in the city.

Above everything else, make sure you contribute a trip report in this forum when you return.

NCAA college football bowl games.

I am heading down to the MDE tomorrow. Where's the best place around El Centro to watch college football bowl games on TV. Thanks in advance guys.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2120987]NCAA college football bowl games.

I am heading down to the MDE tomorrow. Where's the best place around El Centro to watch college football bowl games on TV. Thanks in advance guys.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I'd guess nowhere in Centro and you'll have to metro / cab to a tourist zone and find a sports bar.

[quote=dickhead;2120944]you, sir, are in a world of hurt. This is like every single rookie mistake all rolled into one. Read the forum carefully and i wish you the best of luck.[/quote]+1.

Lol

Hi all,

I tried to go to New Life today. Today was my first day in Medellin, I had trouble finding the place as I could find no blue door. How would an experienced person do this. I showed the following address to the taxi driver and he took me there, address was there written on the door but there was no blue door. Address that I showed was:

Calle 56 #43-39.

Please can anyone help me with what I am missing. I know it is a rookie question but still.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2120987]NCAA college football bowl games.

I am heading down to the MDE tomorrow. Where's the best place around El Centro to watch college football bowl games on TV. Thanks in advance guys.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I doubt you will find any place in El Centro. The only place I know of that will almost for sure have all the games is Patrick's Irish Pub near Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2121004]+1.

Lol[/QUOTE]What the hell does all the vets here know? Right? They will have a great time explaining why one or more of the ten goes home with a stab wound, hurt or in the worst way dead. Really tired of seeing these guys come down here with the arrogance of I'm a bad A. Large group or not, these guys just shoot at any sign of resistance. Yes, please come with the flashy stuff, wear a rolex. Go to central or better go to the barrios. You guys are do what you want. Please do! Can't wait to read the headlines of how stupid gringos come down for sex tourism and get killed. Wait, I read these head lines every month so I guess its normal news now. Oh well.

Let me add one more thing..the vets here are all walks of life..some are even retired military and they offer advice on what not to do..Take it how you will...really.

[QUOTE=Jingur;2121055]Hi all,

I tried to go to New Life today. Today was my first day in Medellin, I had trouble finding the place as I could find no blue door. How would an experienced person do this. I showed the following address to the taxi driver and he took me there, address was there written on the door but there was no blue door. Address that I showed was:

Calle 56 #43-39.

Please can anyone help me with what I am missing. I know it is a rookie question but still.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]What you're missing is a blue door. It's bright blue. It's on Calle 56 and it has the number #43-39 right over the top of the door. If you go through the blue door, after a few steps there's a gate. Ring the buzzer. Repeat until you get upstairs.

If you want to try again, I might find someone to go along with you tomorrow.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2121061]I doubt you will find any place in El Centro. The only place I know of that will almost for sure have all the games is Patrick's Irish Pub near Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]Thanks Guys, looks like it will be Jensen's, Patrick's or Hooters.

Thanks for the last minute intel.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Jingur;2121055]Hi all,

I tried to go to New Life today. Today was my first day in Medellin, I had trouble finding the place as I could find no blue door. How would an experienced person do this. I showed the following address to the taxi driver and he took me there, address was there written on the door but there was no blue door. Address that I showed was:

Calle 56 #43-39.

Please can anyone help me with what I am missing. I know it is a rookie question but still.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Learn the addressing scheme in Latin countries. Calles (CL) and Carreras (Cra) intersect. Using the address of New Life as an example, it is on Calle 56 between Carrera 43 and the next higher numbered Carrera. The next higher Carrera is 45 because 44 doesn't go through that area. Like in the US, even numbers are on one side of the street and odd numbers are on the other side. Go to the intersection of Calle 56 and Carrera 43, start walking on Calle 56. If the numbers after the dash are incrementing, you are going in the right direction. If the numbers are decreasing, reverse your direction. In conclusion, New Life is on Calle 56,39 numbers from the intersection with Carrera 43.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813] I read it everywhere saying don't wear jewelry or flashing clothing and my guys like to flash what should I tell them? [/QUOTE]Tell them to make sure to review their last will and testament and update them as necessary.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! I'm flying out March 13th and staying until the 19th and I have a bunch of questions. ...[/QUOTE]This is why it's good to avoid in season for these destinations. As a helpful tip here are the months you should avoid:

January.

March.

April (semana santa and the week following it).

August (many European tourists).

December (Christmas time).

Travel is more expensive. There are large groups of sex tourists with no clue how to behave or what to do (or Spanish speaking skills). Prices will go up. Bad shit will go down and places you stayed at will suddenly have curfews and rules.

Just got back from Medellin and one thing had me really surprised. Neither Fase II or La Isla charged you for using their rooms?

[QUOTE=DasBooty;2121407]Just got back from Medellin and one thing had me really surprised. Neither Fase II or La Isla charged you for using their rooms?[/QUOTE]It's just included in the 190 k at FaseII.

[QUOTE=Jingur;2121055]Hi all,

I tried to go to New Life today. Today was my first day in Medellin, I had trouble finding the place as I could find no blue door. How would an experienced person do this. I showed the following address to the taxi driver and he took me there, address was there written on the door but there was no blue door. Address that I showed was:

Calle 56 #43-39.

Please can anyone help me with what I am missing. I know it is a rookie question but still.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Unless they just painted it you are looking for this blue door. It's about 2 doors to the left of Botaniko Bistro which is Calle 56 #43 - 43.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2121369] As a helpful tip here are the months you should avoid:

January.

March.

April (semana santa and the week following it).

August (many European tourists).

December (Christmas time)..[/QUOTE]Why March? Only Colombian holiday I see is DIA de San Jose / Saint Joseph's Day, 1st Monday after the 19th.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2121413]Why March? Only Colombian holiday I see is DIA de San Jose / Saint Joseph's Day, 1st Monday after the 19th.[/QUOTE]Spring break. Better to go last week or two of February.

Almost certain I know the answer but can someone who has been there confirm: New Years Eve is a bad time to go to MDE for p4 p, right?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2121285]Learn the addressing scheme in Latin countries. Calles (CL) and Carreras (Cra) intersect. Using the address of New Life as an example, it is on Calle 56 between Carrera 43 and the next higher numbered Carrera. The next higher Carrera is 45 because 44 doesn't go through that area. Like in the US, even numbers are on one side of the street and odd numbers are on the other side. Go to the intersection of Calle 56 and Carrera 43, start walking on Calle 56. If the numbers after the dash are incrementing, you are going in the right direction. If the numbers are decreasing, reverse your direction. In conclusion, New Life is on Calle 56,39 numbers from the intersection with Carrera 43.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but that is just the system in Colombia. Other Latin Américan countries have other systems and not too many use carreras. Many use avenidas. San José CR has a quadrant system such that Calle 18 is nowhere near Calle 17. Buenos Aires has a great grid system and all the blocks are 100 meters long. Guatemala may have some type of system but mostly it is just chaos theory. Other cities have virtually no street numbers. So there is no one addressing scheme in Latin countries, at all.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2121424]Almost certain I know the answer but can someone who has been there confirm: New Years Eve is a bad time to go to MDE for p4 p, right?[/QUOTE]Traditionally Colombians spend new years eve with family and only later go out to party. When they do go out to party its with family as well. You also have the novios and what not wanting to spend time with their women. Not the best time to go.

I will arrive in MDE tomorrow for 10 days. This is my third trip at this time (and have been traveling there for over 11 years). If you know chicas. No problem. They still have bills to pay in January. New Year's eve is almost impossible unless you get invited to a chicas house or you can find a girl whose family does not live in MDE (e. G. , family lives in small towns and girl could not go home; Venezuelans). But other than New Year's eve, never have a problem. My only real problem is too many girls who want to see me (and we know why. $$ and trying to decide which to see.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2121455]Traditionally Colombians spend new years eve with family and only later go out to party. When they do go out to party its with family as well. You also have the novios and what not wanting to spend time with their women. Not the best time to go.[/QUOTE]

You did not mention the prevalent system of addresses based on distance from the center city. For example, a house with the address "Carretera Pedro, km. 75" will be located 75 kilometers from the center of the city or town. It's not that different really from numbered streets (E. G. 10th Street).

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2121442]Yeah, but that is just the system in Colombia. Other Latin Amrican countries have other systems and not too many use carreras. Many use avenidas. San Jos CR has a quadrant system such that Calle 18 is nowhere near Calle 17. Buenos Aires has a great grid system and all the blocks are 100 meters long. Guatemala may have some type of system but mostly it is just chaos theory. Other cities have virtually no street numbers. So there is no one addressing scheme in Latin countries, at all.[/QUOTE]

I am headed to Colombia this afternoon. What should I pay for a taxi between the airport and Hotel M. What is the current exchange rate? I will change couple hundred US at the airport.

I have a six hour layover in Panama City. Is that enough time to taxi and check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and return to the airport to catch my Medellin flight?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2121483]You did not mention the prevalent system of addresses based on distance from the center city. For example, a house with the address "Carretera Pedro, km. 75" will be located 75 kilometers from the center of the city or town. It's not that different really from numbered streets (E. G. 10th Street).[/QUOTE]Yeah, they have that here in Guatemala, although I have not seen it inside towns, only on the rutas. And then there is the 'system' where the numbers on one side of the street don't line up with the ones on the other side of the street, at all. No idea what that is based on but I have seen it several places. I imagine it comes from numbering the buildings starting at some point, but there are more buildings on one side than the other? Wanting things to be completely logical in LatAm is pretty futile, but is of course part of its peculiar charm.

Manuela Restrepo- very pretty Flaquita with awesome naturals but everything was no in the room, She acted like she did not know how to give a massage, wanted the money upfront, no DATY, no this, know that, etc. Etc. Etc. I pull the plug after about 10 minutes, gave her half of the agreed-upon fee and told her to hit the road. Bad service guys, bad service avoid at all cost.

[QUOTE=Pilot3592;2121663]I am headed to Colombia this afternoon. What should I pay for a taxi between the airport and Hotel M. What is the current exchange rate? I will change couple hundred US at the airport.[/QUOTE][URL]http://bfy.tw/FlTC[/URL]

[QUOTE]
I have a six hour layover in Panama City. Is that enough time to taxi and check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and return to the airport to catch my Medellin flight?[/QUOTE]In Panama City Habanos isn't active until 9 pmish? But you could do it in a New York minute! Unfortunately everything takes longer in Panama City. Probably take you 3 hours just to make it to check in.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2121737]Manuela Restrepo- very pretty Flaquita with awesome naturals but everything was no in the room, She acted like she did not know how to give a massage, wanted the money upfront, no DATY, no this, know that, etc. Etc. Etc. I pull the plug after about 10 minutes, gave her half of the agreed-upon fee and told her to hit the road. Bad service guys, bad service avoid at all cost.[/QUOTE]Where did you find this gem? And also decidedly not good looking. Does she have a sister?

While going thru my footage and pics from June, found some I hadn't seen yet. Including this happy street reunion with my Centro street girlie Sara. We had met and did a 30 k session the day before, next day we just ran into each other as I was walking from VeraCruz block to Raudal block. Had been looking for her also.

She squealed and gave me a big hug, soon as we said Hello, I asked her to if she wanted to go back to my room this time, and we turned and went!

I offered her 60 k to go to my hotel 2 blocks away but after she stayed 4 hours gave her 150 k. (in pink is her the day before).

I am glad that you did not give money upfront. You handled the situation very good.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2121737]Manuela Restrepo- very pretty Flaquita with awesome naturals but everything was no in the room, She acted like she did not know how to give a massage, wanted the money upfront, no DATY, no this, know that, etc. Etc. Etc. I pull the plug after about 10 minutes, gave her half of the agreed-upon fee and told her to hit the road. Bad service guys, bad service avoid at all cost.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pilot3592;2121663]I am headed to Colombia this afternoon. What should I pay for a taxi between the airport and Hotel M. What is the current exchange rate? I will change couple hundred US at the airport.

I have a six hour layover in Panama City. Is that enough time to taxi and check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and return to the airport to catch my Medellin flight?[/QUOTE]I recommend calling up a agency and confirm a talent the day before you leave. Have them meet you at a love motel at a certain time. Then hop right back to airport. Pack light or just leave your bags checked so you don't have to worry about checking in again. If you plan it right, it should go smoothly. On that note. You never know when dealing with the talent so make sure they are reputable.

download xe.com app and you will always be up to date on the exchange rate anywhere

[QUOTE=Pilot3592;2121663]I am headed to Colombia this afternoon. What should I pay for a taxi between the airport and Hotel M. What is the current exchange rate? I will change couple hundred US at the airport.

I have a six hour layover in Panama City. Is that enough time to taxi and check into the Hyatt pick up a girl do the deed and return to the airport to catch my Medellin flight?[/QUOTE]The posted rate is 65 k from the airport to Medellin. Currently, you'll get roughly 2850 pesos per dollar.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2121737]Manuela Restrepo- very pretty Flaquita with awesome naturals but everything was no in the room, She acted like she did not know how to give a massage, wanted the money upfront, no DATY, no this, know that, etc. Etc. Etc. I pull the plug after about 10 minutes, gave her half of the agreed-upon fee and told her to hit the road. Bad service guys, bad service avoid at all cost.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I did not even find her that pretty, but definitely flaquita and young. Indeed, she has much to learn about service.

Total newbie experience in the M. Two weeks of Duolingo Spanish is all I got under my belt and finished maybe 25% of the exercises. I'm actually good with languages but didn't have to time to study that much before this trip since it was mostly a scouting trip of sorts. Also I'm just doing one giant post because of how hard it is to page flip through ISG.

General thoughts:

- Even a little Spanish goes a long way to breaking the ice with these girls. I think Colombian girls are naturally very open and simply saying a few things to connect will increase the likelihood of good service.

- BBFS is available but you have to ask. I paid between 75 k-150 k more for the service, on average 100 k. I won't name the girls who actually did do it out of their privacy. Also I found that the girls' skills & looks, especially those from the Mansion, made BBFS unnecessary for me for the most part. Besides, most Mansion girls don't do it, and it's generally best to avoid asking them at all. See the next point as well as the Day #5 section.

- Mansion girls and guests are a small world because relatively few people know about it and the girls selected by the owners are hand picked. Everyone keeps mental tabs on each other, guests on guests, girls on girls, girls on guests and vice versa. Build a good reputation and both the girls and guests will treat you well. Again, don't be an idiot in the Mansion!

- Mansion girls don't bring condoms, supply your own or buy from the front desk.

- Directions to the Mansion isn't easy. Give the taxi driver the Mansion business card, or you can just tell the driver to go to Oviedo and walk to the M, which takes 3-4 minutes.

- Banco Colombia doesn't seem to charge an ATM fee and they have at least 3 ATMs across the street (Cr 43 A) from the M. Max withdrawal is 600 k but multiple withdrawals per day is possible. Citibank and Bank Occidental, two other banks near the M, do charge. Schwab should reimburse these fees but I have to see at the end of the month.

- A lot of girls have braces. If that turns you off, it limits your selection.

- You basically pay the Mansion for 1. A protected environment where neither person gets robbed 2. Having instant access to girls who are at least 7's on their face and decent bodies 3. No need to pay extra fees to either take a girl from inside or bring a girl from outside. Compared to a regular hotel with the same facilities, the Mansion charges probably 50% higher. If you're OK with hit or miss, and doing a bit of extra work, you don't need the Mansion at all.

- Dec 23-25 most businesses close early and the Mansion is empty. You work your contacts during those days.

- If girls use a translator to chat with you in English, sometimes they'll have an 'if' where there should be a 'yes' since they don't often write the accent on the si. This can be confusing for non-Spanish speakers.

- If you use a travel credit card that charges no foreign transaction fees, tell the store to use pesos instead of dollars. Sometimes they will do the foreign exchange for you which defeats the purpose of the card's feature.

- Tigo sells the SIM card, data and minutes separately. I found out one day that people weren't responding to my texts and it was because I didn't buy minutes, only the SIM card.

Pre-trip homework:

Built an FB network as described in detail in an earlier post. Just list all my articles to see it. Read both this forum and another forum's girl reviews and "Casa Blanca" trip reports. This forum is more cluttered than the other one with regards to the actual trip content. The other forum automatically changes the word Mansion to "Douchebag Clubhouse" in case you go and read it.

Day 1:

Flying out of my home airport I got to Las Vegas for a COPA flight to Panama, then Medellin. COPA flight out sucked balls. They fly old 737's on both legs of the trip with the ancient in-flight entertainment system that flips out of the overhead area. Since this means there's only 1 show is playing at a time, for non-Spanish speakers, this means trying to sleep for the duration, except they turn on these bright blue lights overhead above the aisles. I've never seen any other airline do this, or at least have lights this bright during "simulated night time". Even Spanish speakers deal with having no in-flight options. So if you fly COPA, bring an eye cover.

Before I left I took a screenshot of Hotel M's address from their website and put it on my phone to show to a taxi driver. I thought it would save a few bucks but it turned out to be not worth it. He had a terrible time finding the location and in the end I had to pull up a cached Gmail email with the M's local phone number and the driver called the hotel. Thank you Google for being able to pull up critical info without internet access. I tipped him because he worked so hard so the tip essentially wiped out the savings, not to mention about half an hour wasted. If I go to the M again, I'd get their own driver. One thing to point out is that there are some guys right when you exit MDE trying to lead you to taxis. They seem official looking, but there's a similar thing in Manila Philippines when you arrive. Those guys in Manila want tips and it's the same in MDE. I refused to tip him. Also I paid the white taxi 70 k, but I thought the rate going from MDE to the city was 65 k, but it was at least lower than another driver who wanted 75 k.

Since I didn't get much sleep for the last 20 or so hours, I didn't have the energy to explore the area much in the first day. I brought yellow pills that I got from Angeles City and I was looking for blue pills to supplement. According to a forum post I read somewhere, this cocktail worked well, so I thought I'd give it a try. I've found that Cialis alone sometimes isn't enough and Viagra doesn't last long enough, although it's possible some of the pills I bought were duds. I later read online that taking them both has no additional effect. Next I was looking for affordable restaurants around the M. This area is pretty posh for Medellin. Super safe but relatively expensive as well. You can compare it to any hip downtown street in a mid-sized US city. I found a Chinese place called Dumpling right across Bank Occidental. Food is alright and cheap, so this should be a go-to place for me given that most of the choices around are western style. Right next to it was a pharmacy where I bought a box of 4 V tablets for 40 k. Hotel M supplies generic V, 2 for 4200 currently, so in the future I'll just get it from them instead. I also got a Tigo SIM card and 1 week of data for 35 k. I could have found these places myself but I didn't have the energy that day. In fact in Day 2, I saw a Tigo shop in Oviedo.

As others have pointed out, Hotel M's facilities are kind of rotting away. Still OK for now but needs renovation at some point. Biggest complaint I have is wifi that disconnects every minute. They replaced their wifi routers while I was there, and during the second half of my stay my laptop disconnects less, but my phone's wifi connection started to have problems whereas it was the opposite problem before. Another thing is no shampoo / conditioner / hair dryer. Is this normal for Colombian hotels? If so then I'll remember next time.

Following the advice of others, I took a photo of the city on my way from the airport and posted to FB when I got to the hotel, and my friend list lit up with holas all of a sudden. I was going to try the cave first so all those contacts are just for future days for now.

Girls were already hanging out around the pool at 4 pm. This being my first time in Colombia, their average beauty level took me by surprise. I've heard M girls aren't even the prettiest, so I'm kinda thinking what those will be like. Anyways, a 7 or 8 with good service is better than a 9-10 with an attitude, and my first day's experience here wasn't disappointing. I didn't pull anyone until I finished dinner, and thanks to pharmaceutical magic, I was able to get two sessions in one night despite getting nearly no rest for the last day. The girls ask for 200 k, and I did pay that the first day. Probably could have negotiated them down to 150 k but there are some girls in the M who do stick to 200 k. Neither girl mentioned taxi money in addition though. First is Camii Solera. I friended her on FB before coming and she was someone who I chatted with more extensively. I didn't know she was at the M, but I'm happy to see her there as she seemed like one of the more friendly ones. Her face is around a 7, but as I later discovered, her body had some childbirth damage. I couldn't get into it as much as I could have due to this fact as well as my long ass flight, but still, she has a good attitude and is forgiving of my lack of Spanish. In between sessions I chatted with a few regulars and got to know a bit about the place. It seems like the hotel is slow now before Christmas, so instead of 30 girls vs 10 guys, it's more like 15 girls vs 4 guys. Next is Kristina Mazo, also a 7-ish face but her body is better than Camii's, despite also having had a kid. Both girls had all natural bodies and did BBBJ. However I had an amazing time with Kristina, her BJ nearly destroyed my dick in a good way, kissing, multiple positions, one of the best sessions I've ever had in my life. Depending on lighting / makeup levels, Kristina can look a little MILF-why but I liked how she looked that day.

Day 2:

Woke with a mild headache which thankfully went away quickly. I made it to breakfast just before closing time. Breakfast was cooked to order and delivered to you. Went out around noon to explore the area. First is Santa Fe mall. Nice modern mall with several levels about a 5 minute walk away. Actually I was interested in the cambio exchange rate and getting some snacks / drinks. The cambio exchange rate turns out to be a lot worse than getting it at the ATM (you lose about 3-6% and if you have Schwab, there are no fees. I brought some USD during this trip which I don't think I will be using. There was a market at the bottom of the mall where I bought drinks like Cokes, beer, and water. Next I went to the Oviedo market, which is another set of shops and restaurants. While having lunch I made an appointment with Jsenia Gutierrez for 4 pm. Waiting for her back at the hotel, I killed some time by chatting up some girls near the pool and hotel guests. Everyone was very friendly and some are very helpful. One person suggested Luna, but I already had a date. I noticed that most guests speak Spanish at least conversationally. Then around 5, J (an ISG member whose wishes to be anonymous) and his friend came around, and before we had much time to talk, Jsenia came by 1 h 30 m late. She 7.5 in the face. We agreed to 150 k over FB but she made me pay for her incoming taxi from Bello, 40 k. WTF? I've never heard of this before on this forum. Well anyways, we get to bed and I could tell she was not into it. Pretty mechanical service, no photos (with clothes) and then she wanted taxi money to go back. I didn't want to argue with her and gave her 30 k. So essentially 20 k more than what I have been paying for Mansion girls. Not a memorable experience considering she wasted a lot of time and the so-so service. However I think it's partly my fault for not breaking the ice as well as I could have and not confirming total price ahead of time.

After this session, J, his friend and I went to this billards place in the Manrique area, which was kind of far from the M (and supposedly not so safe), then we had dinner at a Chinese place near the billards room. Meanwhile girls are still messaging me trying to set up a date on FB, I had to fend them off one by one because I wanted to pull from the Cuerva tonight. J's friend went home while we're eating so I ordered an Uber back for me and J. The Colombia Uber experience was mostly the same as the US and I can still use my US credit card with it. It was weird though, we both tried to sit in the back but he wanted one person in the front. Also no door slamming! I closed the door as I would my own car, which I don't think is slamming but the driver complained. Next time, I gently closed the door. J is a great dude with a lot of experience in MDE, had an awesome time hanging with him and his friend.

We got back around 11:30 and La Cuerva is emptying out. There's this new girl who I saw on the first day, both days she tried to talk to me, but she's too thick for my tastes. I feel sorry for her because I think she's not getting any customers, but she is so nice. Picked a girl named Diane (her FB name is Diane Lov), 9 on the face with an alright body. Tats everywhere, which for me is a turn on. She's thin so no boobs. Service was a little better than Jsenia but Kristina set a very high bar for my time here in Medellin. Diana kept adjusting the condom to make sure it was on which kills the mood a bit. As suggested by another guest, 150 k with BBBJ is all that's required, no taxi. She also did not want to take photos. A girl like her is minimum $400/ HR, most likely with CBJ, where I live.

Day 3:

A couple of girls already messaged me to set up appointments when I got up and I started scheduling them for the next day and beyond.

J, his friend, and I went to Energy around 3 pm. The place is definitely pretty discreet. Selection was very limited with only about 7 girls and no standouts, but I found one that connected with me. Her name is Vanessa and she's 27 years old. She's got decent silicon boobs and a nice ass with a 7-ish face. Not sure if the ass is enhanced or not, but I didn't mind either. She starts with a massage which lasts about 10 minutes, followed by a BBBJ which I asked for before our session started. Sex was good, even though I know she was acting a bit, the acting wasn't bad at all. We finished up chatting as much as we could with my terrible Spanish and gave her a 30 k propina before leaving the room. Casa fee is 150 k. J and his friend decided to stay around the area a bit longer, but I made a 9 pm appointment with Laura (Helen Abby), so I had to get back, eat and prepare.

My 9 pm Laura didn't respond to my FB message by 9, so I had to look for an alternative. I booked Saray (FB name La Morenitha Casthanito) for 11 pm which is the earliest she could get here. She's been messaging me ever since I got here so I thought I'd give her a shot. I also poked down to the Cuerva and damn there were so many hot girls down there, plenty of 8-9's with no guys around them. Supposedly Thursdays are good because girls are looking to make money for the weekend. I was thinking, fuck, I hope Saray was worth it. 1 HR later (midnight) she came. She's an 18 year old morena, meaning darker skin, but not black. She looks a little Filipino except Filipinos have a smaller body usually. Though she had a kid already, her body was banging, natural small be boobs and a big ass. Face is a 6-6.5 but I'd say but the body and attitude made up for it. So following the advice of others earlier in the day, I tried to chat her up some with whatever Spanish I had and she seemed to appreciate it. I'm pretty sure I sound really retarded in Spanish especially with the conjugations, but if I kept it to really simple things like her family and a little about mine, plus some body gestures, I can make an understandable conversation for about 10 minutes LOL. Anyways after an awesome session I gave her 150 k + 20 k tip, then she had the nerve to ask for taxi money, which I denied, but she was still happy with it.

Laura finally responded saying she can make 12 pm tomorrow.

Day 4:

Laura didn't respond around 11 when I asked if she was coming, then messaged me around 12 to say she can make 2 pm, which would probably mean 4 pm. So I was thinking since there are already quite a few girls around the pool I'll pull one for the afternoon. I scheduled Laura for 7, went to the pool and instead of picking one, I got distracted and got caught up in the pool party. All the girls were dressed in bikinis, bumping skin and all, it was great. There was a fat pale girl working today and I kind of wondered how she got in here. She kills some of the eye candy. I talked to Jennifer (Jenifer Penuela on FB) and checking her interest. She's got a tight body but a just OK face, however she's been giving me hints ever since I got here but alas I'll probably save her for another time. The person who I really wanted was Johanna Gallego, who I saw yesterday in the Cuerva. She does not come everyday though. Her face is like a 9 but her speciality is her long red dreadlocks. Fuck, that is so sexy! She's got that punk look going on. Yesterday she was wearing a very low cut shirt where you can see her natural be boobs so she's not lacking in that department either. We'd connected with each other on FB since November so she remembers me. Anyways the plan was to eat then have Laura come at 7, then have Johanna come around midnight. But Laura showed up with no cedula, which was partly my mistake for not telling her. I should have known given her flakiness. Because I know it's going to take like 3 hrs to make her round trip, I scheduled her for 2 am.

Around 8, I asked Johanna if she can come earlier, she says OK. Went down to the cave just to take a look and saw Camii from day 1 who came by and gave me a good grinding and kisses. I gave her 30 k taxi money for her effort. Going out of the M, J and I then walked to Parque Lleras, which takes about 10-15 minutes. Very lively place. I was hoping to see streetwalkers just out of curiosity but nothing obvious. The girls around there are pretty hot, so I got an idea of what the average M girl is compared with an average young / hip non-working girl in Medellin, and they're not too far apart. Not long after I got there Johanna messaged me saying she was at the M so I hurried back. Her session was amaze balls, lots of DFK, touching, boob licking. She's got nipple piercings which made licking her tits really interesting. The only issue maybe is her baby damage. You notice it but it's easy to ignore. She's got 2 kids. Good long BBBJ before sex, and in the end she squeezed my dick as I was coming, a little too hard because it started hurting a bit at the end. Still interesting though. Top notch experience, ranks alongside Kristina during this trip. She allowed several clothed photos in the end. I gave her 150 k for all.

Laura messaged me around 2 saying she's at a party, are you coming? Wtf? Because I gave her the Hotel M business card images twice already. I'm like no and sent the pictures again. She comes and says security won't let her in, messaging me frantically to come down, and starts calling me on FB. Night time manager / security guy Elkin explains that she appears very drunk and he's not going to let her in. He said she smacked him in the face as well. Whether that's true or not, Laura looked completely wasted. She was hot, but the potential trouble was not worth it. This makes a lot of sense given her habitual lateness and the weird conversation I just had with her. I gave her 50 k to go home, and she probably got herself banned from the Mansion.

Day 5.

Yesterday I booked Alejandra (Maleja CaNo Saldarriaga on FB but she sometimes changes it). She was another girl I really had my sights on when I was making my FB list. In the morning we set up to meet at 1-1:30. She did not budge from 200 k but I wanted her specifically. She arrived on time, big surprise! She used to come to the Mansion a lot. Apparently her sister also sells pussy, but is more professional according to a guest that I talked to. She wasn't exactly rushed but wanted to skip the small talk. I think she had something to do that day for her kids, like buying presents. Her face is a 7 but that body is gorgeous! If you're a boob guy you would like her. Natural big see cup, with a natural bubble butt. Very well proportioned everywhere and no visible baby damage. She's not thin, just to be clear, she's got some meat here and there but overall very nice. I started licking those tits, but they're a bit salty so I didn't it do as much. I should have asked her to shower a little before, but it's not bad. I didn't want to give DATY for the same reason. Pounding her in every angle was a visual treat, either the breasts or apple butt. She didn't want to kiss very much and no DFK, which was a negative. I feel like she's going to go shopping right after so she didn't want to mess up her makeup LOL. After our session she immediately asks when is next time and I said I'll think about it. She was worth the money but Johanna was a better value for sure.

Afternoon, went to J's new hotel in El Centro and we decided to do a mini casa run with the help of WT69's casa map. I forgot to bring cash and unfortunately Schwab blocked my account for suspicious activity. Wasted like an hour trying different ATMs and then finally calling Scwhab's collect number to unblock the account. I can dial their collect # using the Tigo SIM, which was fortunate. Linda Chicas was closest to us but they said they open at 7, as opposed to the information on the casa map. Going towards the church near Av Oriental and Calle 57, there were a bunch of TS looking "girls" waiting in the streets. I'm 75% sure but I didn't want to get near them. Next we walked along Calle 57 to a tiny casa along that road. We knew because there were girls hanging out in front. About 4 girls upstairs, but mostly chubby, except a cute and tiny Venezuelan girl with big puppy eyes kept smiling at me. I was thinking whether I should take her or see something better but J picked her. By the time they were done, it was already after sunset and the area doesn't seem so safe anymore, being not well lit. I wanted to see at least one more to see what available in these made-for-local casas vs places like Energy. We saw an open door and basically went up without knowing for sure what it is, and indeed it was a casa. Only 3 girls, and since J is already done, I was picking with two other Colombian guys. The show room is under a dark blue light so you can't even see their faces. So I asked the guy to see them under natural light. They all turned out to be average or below. There's a drunk or high Colombian guy in that casa which made that place somewhat uncomfortable.

Earlier in the day, the front desk told me that although the cave is being renovated, the girls will be at the pool. At around 9 there were no girls. Mind you this is Christmas weekend, so many girls are with their families. A girl came in, saw no guys there and left in about 20 min (I was not interested). I made a verbal agreement yesterday with Yurita (Yurita Lopez) to meet today but no response today. Messaged Andrea (Andre Rameriez) who I met yesterday by the pool. We set up a time at 11:30. She comes on time and she was a bit taller than I thought. I only saw her sitting down before today. Her face is a 7. 5 and has a noticeable but not terrible baby pocket. Anyways we agreed to 250 k "sexo sin condom" and when she arrived, I noticed during the BBBJ she hasn't taken off her panties yet. So I'm like let's go, she's like no we agreed to 250 k for oral without condom only and I won't do BBFS. Is the translation really that bad? Who pays 250 k for BBBJ + CFS? I'm like no BBFS is fine, then 150 k for CFS. Then she's like no, 150 k is for oral without sex. I rejected that ridiculous offer. She gets upset and threatens to leave, fine for me because if it really came down to who was being honest, I have proof of what we agreed to and nothing was forced on her. But I tried to de-escalate the situation, telling her you're a nice girl, let's calm down and work it out. She finally agrees after I agreed to a 20 k taxi fee, does an OK session with no small talk afterwards. It took some time to get a boner back after having to deal with that, ended up being the worst experience thus far during this trip.

Day 6:

The idea today is to go visit Thailyn, the casa girl from yesterday at around 2, eat and then go visit a park or something, which would be a good idea since almost everything's closed down. Went to the place and the guy says she hasn't come yet. They called her and she starts taking a cab here and she'll be here in 30 min. I go eat near the Basilica for an hour because I was pretty sure it'll take longer than 30 min. Come back, she's still not there. Hung around the casa for a few minutes then I asked them to call me when she's here. I was thinking maybe I'd poke my head in a casa or two without taking while I wait. I was heading towards Chicas Punto Com when my phone rang. Time to go back, 1 and a half hours later than first estimated. Thailyn has a 7.5-8 face, dyed blonde hair, small features except a well formed butt. I think VE and CO share a lot of similar genetics, and there's always debate about who has hotter girls. But in this case Thailyn looks different from other Colombians I've seen. Back at the casa, the room was cramped and hot, and if you turn on the fan it blows in your face. She was good at using that small space efficiently, but I knew I couldn't get off in those conditions so I made the best of my time and got her # and WhatsApp. After I was "done". The guys at the casa asked for propinas. Actually they were helpful with English and calling her, calling me etc so 2 mil for each. Casa price is 45 k and I gave her 30 k extra for BBBJ.

I scheduled Thailyn for later tonight after she gets off work. 150 k for 1 hour because supply is limited at this time, and she knows it. Bela Osorio wanted 400 k / HR that night, Lised Salinas had plans, Juana Gomez did not respond, a few girls from previous days were available but nothing terribly enticing. I remind Thailyn to bring her passport since she has no cedula. Had to get dinner first but nothing was open around the area. Elkin (night time manager) helps me order Burger King, which was the only available choice. Guys were sitting near the pool waiting for their appointments, just like I was. Thailyn comes and said that the Elkin is only allowing her to be there for an hour. Later I found out it's because a lot of Venezuelans are here illegally and it's trouble for the Mansion if the police comes and she's illegal. We get to the session and she starts with a nice BBBJ. I love how she looks at me with those gorgeous eyes while her mouth is on my cock. Every position we get to she's looking at me seductively like she wants to be pounded. The experience is so much better with a big bed and a comfortable ambient temperature. We followed with selfies and photos around the M had a good time talking through the translator, broken Spanish and body gestures. I want to see her again but my schedule's packed for the next 2 days.

Day 7:

I had to visit at least one real Medellin sight during this trip, so I took the metrocable to Arvi Park. This is a trip I think new visitors should take because it's very accessible and the views are great at the same time. I walked to the Poblado metro station (20 min or so), get off at Acevedo, ride the gondola as far as you can, buy another ticket for the gondola ride to the top. I think round trip the tickets were around 15 k, extremely cheap for some nice views of the city, as well as views of the slummier areas of Medellin. On my way back, I tried to get money and apparently Scwhab blocked my account the second time. Wasted another 20 min getting it unblocked.

Yurita (from the M) messages me around 1 or 2 pm and I really wanted to see her. She's got a really happy personality, acts kind of girly but she's currently a student. I think she's been at the Mansion for a year but she doesn't appear to be jaded or is really good at presenting herself as a happy girl. We meet at around 5, and when she took off her clothes, she's like a thinner version of Alejandra. By that I mean her tits aren't as big but still amazingly beautiful, and she's also got a few inches less on the waist as well. I think among all the girls I've met on this trip, her body is probably the best proportioned. If you like big tits, that's Alejandra but Alejandra also comes with a little more meat elsewhere. Yurita has Cs or big BS. Her face isn't bad either, a solid 7. But her warm personality completes that package, well I really should say elevate that package to a totally different level. Yurita loves to suck and fuck and she really gets into it. I just love making eye contact with her while we're fucking and it's easy to get lost. This goes beyond a GFE and is more like a PSE!

After our session I was in heaven. I thought we were done so I took out the agreed-to fee 150 k, but I wanted to take some regular photos of her by the pool and stuff. We go back to the room to check the photos and then started kissing and groping again, I started playing with her tits, we took off the pants and off we go for round 2.

After that we started some small talk. I thought again we're done and money's in my hands, but we decided to go to dinner together. How often do you see an average looking dude with a hot Colombian chick around huh? I feel like a stud LOL. Now on the 25th, more restaurants are open, we have dinner, chat in a mix of English and Spanish (she does know a bit of English so it's much easier to talk to her). She helps with finding the restaurant, the taxi directions, ordering, woooooow. Yea I mean usually a guy is supposed to do all that, but come on, I would have just made a fool of myself without conversational Spanish.

I'm supposed to be meeting Johanna for session #2 tonight and she messages me during our taxi ride home from the restaurant. I didn't (actually couldn't) answer for about 30 min but by that time Johanna went inactive. Thailyn from yesterday also messages me but I said I'll think about it, then she goes inactive. Yurita stayed a bit, I told her no more juice left down there, I gave her a 100 k tip, plus the dinner I think compensated for her extraordinary performance and for having spent 3+ hours with me. First time I thought about making a Mansion girl a girlfriend, but in reality everyone knows that's a big no no. Johanna at around 10:30 said she couldn't make it. So I'm beside the pool no Johanna or Thailyn, SOL tonight with the Mansion empty and this being 11:30 pm or so, no one's answering messages. But Marcela Rios apparently just finished a session with another guest and came by the pool to say Hi to an old friend / guest who I was talking with. Marcela and I are connected on FB but never messaged each other, and she doesn't remember me. The mutual friend introduced us, and since they were speaking 100% Spanish I couldn't join in. During this time though I was FB messaging her via a translator, and she's like sure do you want it now or tomorrow? Unfortunately the guy who she just finished with gave her a so-so review, and she does look a little more difficult to connect with if you don't speak Spanish. Her face is like a 9, but she's thin and lacks butt or boobs, which for me is OK. However, just having spent such a great time with Yurita though, I decided to pass.

Day 8.

Alejandra's supposed to meet me at noon but she comes 15 min early. I was still in my bath towel and I asked her to wait a moment, she's like no need, and comes in anyway. She always seems to be in a hurry. Maybe that's why she's never late, but that attitude carries forward to the bed as well. She does a decent session but I think I'm going to stop seeing her because we don't really connect with each other. She's got the best tits of all the girls I met though. After the session I need to pay my hotel bill and there was a rare brown skinned morena girl in the lounge area. She looks pretty hot. If I didn't have everything already set up, I'd take her like right there. Her name is Juliet from Cali. I got her FB for the next trip. A few girls message me, among them, I told Johanna and Kristina I'll say goodbye before I leave.

The guy who was with Marcela yesterday recommended going over to the Iglesia Veracruz for street girls during the day. The instructions were somewhat vague because I don't know the area, but after about 15 minutes I found the place. It's essentially the back of the church on Cr 53 at the intersection with CL 52. Most of them were poor quality, some were doable. For me though doable chicks you can find in other countries for cheaper, so if I'm picking there I'm looking for gems. This is a good option for those on a budget for sure. Maybe if I look more I'll find a 7+, but I didn't see any. My intention was just to find the place and scout the quality so no big deal. There were also quite a few street girls around Parque Botera as well.

I'm supposed to meet Thailyn again at 5. I knew she was going to be late because of traffic around that time but I didn't know she was going to be 3 hours late. While I was waiting, I see an Indian guy who's not a guest at the hotel wanting to check out the cave. Elkin tells him he has to pay the fee and he leaves. Thailyn shows up at 8. I think she finishes work at 6, which I didn't find out until later, then takes 2 hours to prep and come, which is understandable but I just wish they can estimate their time better. By that time I was starting to worry things were closing, but that is not so. Restaurants around here still had lines out the door. We went to Marriot's Nau Sushi Lounge which was pretty much right across the street, recommended by J's friend. Nice posh location, again, I think I'm getting stares because I'm taking this cute girl around while being quite ordinary myself. Thailyn and I connect very well. She seems really into me, which means she's probably pretty fresh. I'm thinking about developing our relationship a bit more, but I'll see if she ends up harding after a while, maybe she won't be as sweet. Anyways we get back to the M, I'm supposed to meet Camii tonight also, and I'm glad she's in the cave so she doesn't see us as we walk to the room. In the room Thailyn starts an oil massage then we end with a very GFE-plus session. 150 k+50 k propina (FYI this propina is way more than what I would pay for a standard Mansion session). Well guys I think it's safe to say that Thailyn is a gem and trying to find someone like her around the Centro casas is very much YMMV. I just got very lucky.

Thailyn leaves, I take a break and call up Camii around 12:30 am. I like Camii, and I think she likes me a bit as well, but she's a smart hardened girl who I can't expect too much from. But among all the Mansion girls I've been with, she probably works the hardest. When I first got to the Mansion, my libido levels were super high and I thought everyone was hot. Now that I got used to it, Camii still looks nice, but after 2 sessions already today, it was a bit harder to finish with her. If I let my dick do the thinking I probably would have went with Johanna, who was also there that night. Camii also fucks hard, and I didn't realize it during my first session with her, but her hip thrusts will slide my body an inch or two up and down the bed LOL. After our session, Camii falls asleep naked on my bed, I checked my phone and Kristina messaged me like, you were supposed to say goodbye to me. I'm like oh shit I forgot, I go out and Kristina and Johanna's right next to the pool. No one else around since it's 2 am. They welcome me with open arms, I sit between them, they grab me and kiss me, put my hand on their boobs etc, I take some selfies with them. But I'm like ah damn, this is good and bad at the same time. I'm enjoying this but they definitely want money and I'm out of both pesos and semen. I only have enough for the taxi out. So I'm like hey I can't do this, I just wanted to say goodbye to you guys. I bought them some beers, more touching and kissing, Johanna was having fun as always, and Kristina's kind of drunk. Kristina goes like, you can go to the ATM right? I refused to do that for various reasons. I think she was disappointed, but I gave them some USD each as that's all I have left. Kristina clearly wanted more, but I told her no can do. Camii wakes up, comes out of my room, sees me talking with her friends, kisses me in front of them, chats with us for 2 minutes and goes home. Not awkward at all, for the Mansion. This is a different world for sure. I had to go pack my stuff so I say goodbye to Kristina and Johanna.

"Taxi" ride to the airport was a private driver that the M arranged ahead of time. It's supposed to be 75 k but the guy asked me for 85. I'm like 75 k is all I have and he's OK with it. COPA flight back was better than the flight to MDE. Still 737's but they have individual back of the seat video panels on this plane.

Final thoughts:

Medellin is different from other places I've been to and the Mansion itself is a surreal place within a much larger pussy paradise. I think Medellin takes more work than other places for an average American simply due to language, but you can get more out of it if you do put in the work. Among the things I didn't do was I didn't check out Fase Dos or any of the lower end strip clubs in Centro. Didn't go to Mayorista (might need a wingman there). I also read Lindas Chicas was supposed to have a big selection among the casas. There were a few FB girls that I wanted to meet but could not schedule. I need to do more sightseeing as well. All that for next time!

I have a theory.

Please let us know?

All even numbers houses are in the South, all odds numbers are in the North. East numbers are even and West numbers are odd.

That is around the whole world. USA Anyway. I think.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2121483]You did not mention the prevalent system of addresses based on distance from the center city. For example, a house with the address "Carretera Pedro, km. 75" will be located 75 kilometers from the center of the city or town. It's not that different really from numbered streets (E. G. 10th Street).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2121996]
Day 5.

Yesterday I booked Alejandra (Maleja CaNo Saldarriaga on FB but she sometimes changes it). She was another girl I really had my sights on when I was making my FB list. In the morning we set up to meet at 1-1:30. She did not budge from 200 k but I wanted her specifically. She arrived on time, big surprise! She used to come to the Mansion a lot. [/QUOTE]I had this chick back in 2013. Invited her straight over to the apartment. Very cute face, but has some crooked-shaped legs, which I didn't like.

Her sister (Mile) was my favorita for a long time. A little bit older, long black hair, has a more Pocahantas color to her, and a nice fat ass. She used to be really into the gym when I met her and had a nice and tight midsection. But she's let herself go a bit over the years (her weight fluctuates; one too many cervesas, LOL).

[QUOTE=Tasss;2121996]Among the things I didn't do was I didn't check out Fase Dos or any of the lower end strip clubs in Centro. Didn't go to Mayorista (might need a wingman there).[/QUOTE]If you can walk around the Vera Cruz block alone you'll do fine at Mayorista solo.

The strip clubs are worthwhile, where else can you check out up to 50 girls at the same time?

Yes, worldwide odd and even numbered addresses are generally on opposite sides of the street. I hedge on north / south because of the hemisphere factor. Like all rules, this one has exceptions. But they are fairly rare. I noticed in less developed places like the Dominican Republic you will see odd and even numbered addresses on the same side of the street and you will also see the address numbers alternate between ascending and descending order, very confusing. A final note, in Europe you will often find adjacent buildings with addresses such as "42 street X", "42 bis street X", "42 bisA Street X". "Bis" means "annex" roughly and it's used in France. Other countries have versions of the "bis" suffix. That about beats this horse to death.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2122044]I have a theory.

Please let us know?

All even numbers houses are in the South, all odds numbers are in the North. East numbers are even and West numbers are odd.

That is around the whole world. USA Anyway. I think.[/QUOTE]

Now that's a trip report!!

Well done Tassss. You showed us how to have a great time!

[QUOTE=Tasss;2121996]Total newbie experience in the M. Two weeks of Duolingo Spanish is all I got under my belt and finished maybe 25% of the exercises. I'm actually good with languages but didn't have to time to study that much before this trip since it was mostly a scouting trip of sorts. Also I'm just doing one giant post because of how hard it is to page flip through ISG.

General thoughts:

- Even a little Spanish goes a long way to breaking the ice with these girls. I think Colombian girls are naturally very open and simply saying a few things to connect will increase the likelihood of good service.

- BBFS is available but you have to ask. I paid between 75 k-150 k more for the service, on average 100 k. I won't name the girls who actually did do it out of their privacy. Also I found that the girls' skills & looks, especially those from the Mansion, made BBFS unnecessary for me for the most part. Besides, most Mansion girls don't do it, and it's generally best to avoid asking them at all. See the next point as well as the Day #5 section.

- Mansion girls and guests are a small world because relatively few people know about it and the girls selected by the owners are hand picked. Everyone keeps mental tabs on each other, guests on guests, girls on girls, girls on guests and vice versa. Build a good reputation and both the girls and guests will treat you well. Again, don't be an idiot in the Mansion!

- Mansion girls don't bring condoms, supply your own or buy from the front desk.

- Directions to the Mansion isn't easy. Give the taxi driver the Mansion business card, or you can just tell the driver to go to Oviedo and walk to the M, which takes 3-4 minutes.

- Banco Colombia doesn't seem to charge an ATM fee and they have at least 3 ATMs across the street (Cr 43 A) from the M. Max withdrawal is 600 k but multiple withdrawals per day is possible. Citibank and Bank Occidental, two other banks near the M, do charge. Schwab should reimburse these fees but I have to see at the end of the month.

- A lot of girls have braces. If that turns you off, it limits your selection.

- You basically pay the Mansion for 1. A protected environment where neither person gets robbed 2. Having instant access to girls who are at least 7's on their face and decent bodies 3. No need to pay extra fees to either take a girl from inside or bring a girl from outside. Compared to a regular hotel with the same facilities, the Mansion charges probably 50% higher. If you're OK with hit or miss, and doing a bit of extra work, you don't need the Mansion at all.

- Dec 23-25 most businesses close early and the Mansion is empty. You work your contacts during those days.

- If girls use a translator to chat with you in English, sometimes they'll have an 'if' where there should be a 'yes' since they don't often write the accent on the si. This can be confusing for non-Spanish speakers.

- If you use a travel credit card that charges no foreign transaction fees, tell the store to use pesos instead of dollars. Sometimes they will do the foreign exchange for you which defeats the purpose of the card's feature.

- Tigo sells the SIM card, data and minutes separately. I found out one day that people weren't responding to my texts and it was because I didn't buy minutes, only the SIM card.

Pre-trip homework:

Built an FB network as described in detail in an earlier post. Just list all my articles to see it. Read both this forum and another forum's girl reviews and "Casa Blanca" trip reports. This forum is more cluttered than the other one with regards to the actual trip content. The other forum automatically changes the word Mansion to "Douchebag Clubhouse" in case you go and read it.

Day 1:

Flying out of my home airport I got to Las Vegas for a COPA flight to Panama, then Medellin. COPA flight out sucked balls. They fly old 737's on both legs of the trip with the ancient in-flight entertainment system that flips out of the overhead area. Since this means there's only 1 show is playing at a time, for non-Spanish speakers, this means trying to sleep for the duration, except they turn on these bright blue lights overhead above the aisles. I've never seen any other airline do this, or at least have lights this bright during "simulated night time". Even Spanish speakers deal with having no in-flight options. So if you fly COPA, bring an eye cover.

Before I left I took a screenshot of Hotel M's address from their website and put it on my phone to show to a taxi driver. I thought it would save a few bucks but it turned out to be not worth it. He had a terrible time finding the location and in the end I had to pull up a cached Gmail email with the M's local phone number and the driver called the hotel. Thank you Google for being able to pull up critical info without internet access. I tipped him because he worked so hard so the tip essentially wiped out the savings, not to mention about half an hour wasted. If I go to the M again, I'd get their own driver. One thing to point out is that there are some guys right when you exit MDE trying to lead you to taxis. They seem official looking, but there's a similar thing in Manila Philippines when you arrive. Those guys in Manila want tips and it's the same in MDE. I refused to tip him. Also I paid the white taxi 70 k, but I thought the rate going from MDE to the city was 65 k, but it was at least lower than another driver who wanted 75 k.

Since I didn't get much sleep for the last 20 or so hours, I didn't have the energy to explore the area much in the first day. I brought yellow pills that I got from Angeles City and I was looking for blue pills to supplement. According to a forum post I read somewhere, this cocktail worked well, so I thought I'd give it a try. I've found that Cialis alone sometimes isn't enough and Viagra doesn't last long enough, although it's possible some of the pills I bought were duds. I later read online that taking them both has no additional effect. Next I was looking for affordable restaurants around the M. This area is pretty posh for Medellin. Super safe but relatively expensive as well. You can compare it to any hip downtown street in a mid-sized US city. I found a Chinese place called Dumpling right across Bank Occidental. Food is alright and cheap, so this should be a go-to place for me given that most of the choices around are western style. Right next to it was a pharmacy where I bought a box of 4 V tablets for 40 k. Hotel M supplies generic V, 2 for 4200 currently, so in the future I'll just get it from them instead. I also got a Tigo SIM card and 1 week of data for 35 k. I could have found these places myself but I didn't have the energy that day. In fact in Day 2, I saw a Tigo shop in Oviedo.

As others have pointed out, Hotel M's facilities are kind of rotting away. Still OK for now but needs renovation at some point. Biggest complaint I have is wifi that disconnects every minute. They replaced their wifi routers while I was there, and during the second half of my stay my laptop disconnects less, but my phone's wifi connection started to have problems whereas it was the opposite problem before. Another thing is no shampoo / conditioner / hair dryer. Is this normal for Colombian hotels? If so then I'll remember next time.

Following the advice of others, I took a photo of the city on my way from the airport and posted to FB when I got to the hotel, and my friend list lit up with holas all of a sudden. I was going to try the cave first so all those contacts are just for future days for now.

Girls were already hanging out around the pool at 4 pm. This being my first time in Colombia, their average beauty level took me by surprise. I've heard M girls aren't even the prettiest, so I'm kinda thinking what those will be like. Anyways, a 7 or 8 with good service is better than a 9-10 with an attitude, and my first day's experience here wasn't disappointing. I didn't pull anyone until I finished dinner, and thanks to pharmaceutical magic, I was able to get two sessions in one night despite getting nearly no rest for the last day. The girls ask for 200 k, and I did pay that the first day. Probably could have negotiated them down to 150 k but there are some girls in the M who do stick to 200 k. Neither girl mentioned taxi money in addition though. First is Camii Solera. I friended her on FB before coming and she was someone who I chatted with more extensively. I didn't know she was at the M, but I'm happy to see her there as she seemed like one of the more friendly ones. Her face is around a 7, but as I later discovered, her body had some childbirth damage. I couldn't get into it as much as I could have due to this fact as well as my long ass flight, but still, she has a good attitude and is forgiving of my lack of Spanish. In between sessions I chatted with a few regulars and got to know a bit about the place. It seems like the hotel is slow now before Christmas, so instead of 30 girls vs 10 guys, it's more like 15 girls vs 4 guys. Next is Kristina Mazo, also a 7-ish face but her body is better than Camii's, despite also having had a kid. Both girls had all natural bodies and did BBBJ. However I had an amazing time with Kristina, her BJ nearly destroyed my dick in a good way, kissing, multiple positions, one of the best sessions I've ever had in my life. Depending on lighting / makeup levels, Kristina can look a little MILF-why but I liked how she looked that day.

Day 2:

Woke with a mild headache which thankfully went away quickly. I made it to breakfast just before closing time. Breakfast was cooked to order and delivered to you. Went out around noon to explore the area. First is Santa Fe mall. Nice modern mall with several levels about a 5 minute walk away. Actually I was interested in the cambio exchange rate and getting some snacks / drinks. The cambio exchange rate turns out to be a lot worse than getting it at the ATM (you lose about 3-6% and if you have Schwab, there are no fees. I brought some USD during this trip which I don't think I will be using. There was a market at the bottom of the mall where I bought drinks like Cokes, beer, and water. Next I went to the Oviedo market, which is another set of shops and restaurants. While having lunch I made an appointment with Jsenia Gutierrez for 4 pm. Waiting for her back at the hotel, I killed some time by chatting up some girls near the pool and hotel guests. Everyone was very friendly and some are very helpful. One person suggested Luna, but I already had a date. I noticed that most guests speak Spanish at least conversationally. Then around 5, J (an ISG member whose wishes to be anonymous) and his friend came around, and before we had much time to talk, Jsenia came by 1 h 30 m late. She 7.5 in the face. We agreed to 150 k over FB but she made me pay for her incoming taxi from Bello, 40 k. WTF? I've never heard of this before on this forum. Well anyways, we get to bed and I could tell she was not into it. Pretty mechanical service, no photos (with clothes) and then she wanted taxi money to go back. I didn't want to argue with her and gave her 30 k. So essentially 20 k more than what I have been paying for Mansion girls. Not a memorable experience considering she wasted a lot of time and the so-so service. However I think it's partly my fault for not breaking the ice as well as I could have and not confirming total price ahead of time.

After this session, J, his friend and I went to this billards place in the Manrique area, which was kind of far from the M (and supposedly not so safe), then we had dinner at a Chinese place near the billards room. Meanwhile girls are still messaging me trying to set up a date on FB, I had to fend them off one by one because I wanted to pull from the Cuerva tonight. J's friend went home while we're eating so I ordered an Uber back for me and J. The Colombia Uber experience was mostly the same as the US and I can still use my US credit card with it. It was weird though, we both tried to sit in the back but he wanted one person in the front. Also no door slamming! I closed the door as I would my own car, which I don't think is slamming but the driver complained. Next time, I gently closed the door. J is a great dude with a lot of experience in MDE, had an awesome time hanging with him and his friend.

We got back around 11:30 and La Cuerva is emptying out. There's this new girl who I saw on the first day, both days she tried to talk to me, but she's too thick for my tastes. I feel sorry for her because I think she's not getting any customers, but she is so nice. Picked a girl named Diane (her FB name is Diane Lov), 9 on the face with an alright body. Tats everywhere, which for me is a turn on. She's thin so no boobs. Service was a little better than Jsenia but Kristina set a very high bar for my time here in Medellin. Diana kept adjusting the condom to make sure it was on which kills the mood a bit. As suggested by another guest, 150 k with BBBJ is all that's required, no taxi. She also did not want to take photos. A girl like her is minimum $400/ HR, most likely with CBJ, where I live.

Day 3:

A couple of girls already messaged me to set up appointments when I got up and I started scheduling them for the next day and beyond.

J, his friend, and I went to Energy around 3 pm. The place is definitely pretty discreet. Selection was very limited with only about 7 girls and no standouts, but I found one that connected with me. Her name is Vanessa and she's 27 years old. She's got decent silicon boobs and a nice ass with a 7-ish face. Not sure if the ass is enhanced or not, but I didn't mind either. She starts with a massage which lasts about 10 minutes, followed by a BBBJ which I asked for before our session started. Sex was good, even though I know she was acting a bit, the acting wasn't bad at all. We finished up chatting as much as we could with my terrible Spanish and gave her a 30 k propina before leaving the room. Casa fee is 150 k. J and his friend decided to stay around the area a bit longer, but I made a 9 pm appointment with Laura (Helen Abby), so I had to get back, eat and prepare.

My 9 pm Laura didn't respond to my FB message by 9, so I had to look for an alternative. I booked Saray (FB name La Morenitha Casthanito) for 11 pm which is the earliest she could get here. She's been messaging me ever since I got here so I thought I'd give her a shot. I also poked down to the Cuerva and damn there were so many hot girls down there, plenty of 8-9's with no guys around them. Supposedly Thursdays are good because girls are looking to make money for the weekend. I was thinking, fuck, I hope Saray was worth it. 1 HR later (midnight) she came. She's an 18 year old morena, meaning darker skin, but not black. She looks a little Filipino except Filipinos have a smaller body usually. Though she had a kid already, her body was banging, natural small be boobs and a big ass. Face is a 6-6.5 but I'd say but the body and attitude made up for it. So following the advice of others earlier in the day, I tried to chat her up some with whatever Spanish I had and she seemed to appreciate it. I'm pretty sure I sound really retarded in Spanish especially with the conjugations, but if I kept it to really simple things like her family and a little about mine, plus some body gestures, I can make an understandable conversation for about 10 minutes LOL. Anyways after an awesome session I gave her 150 k + 20 k tip, then she had the nerve to ask for taxi money, which I denied, but she was still happy with it.

Laura finally responded saying she can make 12 pm tomorrow.

Day 4:

Laura didn't respond around 11 when I asked if she was coming, then messaged me around 12 to say she can make 2 pm, which would probably mean 4 pm. So I was thinking since there are already quite a few girls around the pool I'll pull one for the afternoon. I scheduled Laura for 7, went to the pool and instead of picking one, I got distracted and got caught up in the pool party. All the girls were dressed in bikinis, bumping skin and all, it was great. There was a fat pale girl working today and I kind of wondered how she got in here. She kills some of the eye candy. I talked to Jennifer (Jenifer Penuela on FB) and checking her interest. She's got a tight body but a just OK face, however she's been giving me hints ever since I got here but alas I'll probably save her for another time. The person who I really wanted was Johanna Gallego, who I saw yesterday in the Cuerva. She does not come everyday though. Her face is like a 9 but her speciality is her long red dreadlocks. Fuck, that is so sexy! She's got that punk look going on. Yesterday she was wearing a very low cut shirt where you can see her natural be boobs so she's not lacking in that department either. We'd connected with each other on FB since November so she remembers me. Anyways the plan was to eat then have Laura come at 7, then have Johanna come around midnight. But Laura showed up with no cedula, which was partly my mistake for not telling her. I should have known given her flakiness. Because I know it's going to take like 3 hrs to make her round trip, I scheduled her for 2 am.

Around 8, I asked Johanna if she can come earlier, she says OK. Went down to the cave just to take a look and saw Camii from day 1 who came by and gave me a good grinding and kisses. I gave her 30 k taxi money for her effort. Going out of the M, J and I then walked to Parque Lleras, which takes about 10-15 minutes. Very lively place. I was hoping to see streetwalkers just out of curiosity but nothing obvious. The girls around there are pretty hot, so I got an idea of what the average M girl is compared with an average young / hip non-working girl in Medellin, and they're not too far apart. Not long after I got there Johanna messaged me saying she was at the M so I hurried back. Her session was amaze balls, lots of DFK, touching, boob licking. She's got nipple piercings which made licking her tits really interesting. The only issue maybe is her baby damage. You notice it but it's easy to ignore. She's got 2 kids. Good long BBBJ before sex, and in the end she squeezed my dick as I was coming, a little too hard because it started hurting a bit at the end. Still interesting though. Top notch experience, ranks alongside Kristina during this trip. She allowed several clothed photos in the end. I gave her 150 k for all.

Laura messaged me around 2 saying she's at a party, are you coming? Wtf? Because I gave her the Hotel M business card images twice already. I'm like no and sent the pictures again. She comes and says security won't let her in, messaging me frantically to come down, and starts calling me on FB. Night time manager / security guy Elkin explains that she appears very drunk and he's not going to let her in. He said she smacked him in the face as well. Whether that's true or not, Laura looked completely wasted. She was hot, but the potential trouble was not worth it. This makes a lot of sense given her habitual lateness and the weird conversation I just had with her. I gave her 50 k to go home, and she probably got herself banned from the Mansion.

Day 5.

Yesterday I booked Alejandra (Maleja CaNo Saldarriaga on FB but she sometimes changes it). She was another girl I really had my sights on when I was making my FB list. In the morning we set up to meet at 1-1:30. She did not budge from 200 k but I wanted her specifically. She arrived on time, big surprise! She used to come to the Mansion a lot. Apparently her sister also sells pussy, but is more professional according to a guest that I talked to. She wasn't exactly rushed but wanted to skip the small talk. I think she had something to do that day for her kids, like buying presents. Her face is a 7 but that body is gorgeous! If you're a boob guy you would like her. Natural big see cup, with a natural bubble butt. Very well proportioned everywhere and no visible baby damage. She's not thin, just to be clear, she's got some meat here and there but overall very nice. I started licking those tits, but they're a bit salty so I didn't it do as much. I should have asked her to shower a little before, but it's not bad. I didn't want to give DATY for the same reason. Pounding her in every angle was a visual treat, either the breasts or apple butt. She didn't want to kiss very much and no DFK, which was a negative. I feel like she's going to go shopping right after so she didn't want to mess up her makeup LOL. After our session she immediately asks when is next time and I said I'll think about it. She was worth the money but Johanna was a better value for sure.

Afternoon, went to J's new hotel in El Centro and we decided to do a mini casa run with the help of WT69's casa map. I forgot to bring cash and unfortunately Schwab blocked my account for suspicious activity. Wasted like an hour trying different ATMs and then finally calling Scwhab's collect number to unblock the account. I can dial their collect # using the Tigo SIM, which was fortunate. Linda Chicas was closest to us but they said they open at 7, as opposed to the information on the casa map. Going towards the church near Av Oriental and Calle 57, there were a bunch of TS looking "girls" waiting in the streets. I'm 75% sure but I didn't want to get near them. Next we walked along Calle 57 to a tiny casa along that road. We knew because there were girls hanging out in front. About 4 girls upstairs, but mostly chubby, except a cute and tiny Venezuelan girl with big puppy eyes kept smiling at me. I was thinking whether I should take her or see something better but J picked her. By the time they were done, it was already after sunset and the area doesn't seem so safe anymore, being not well lit. I wanted to see at least one more to see what available in these made-for-local casas vs places like Energy. We saw an open door and basically went up without knowing for sure what it is, and indeed it was a casa. Only 3 girls, and since J is already done, I was picking with two other Colombian guys. The show room is under a dark blue light so you can't even see their faces. So I asked the guy to see them under natural light. They all turned out to be average or below. There's a drunk or high Colombian guy in that casa which made that place somewhat uncomfortable.

Earlier in the day, the front desk told me that although the cave is being renovated, the girls will be at the pool. At around 9 there were no girls. Mind you this is Christmas weekend, so many girls are with their families. A girl came in, saw no guys there and left in about 20 min (I was not interested). I made a verbal agreement yesterday with Yurita (Yurita Lopez) to meet today but no response today. Messaged Andrea (Andre Rameriez) who I met yesterday by the pool. We set up a time at 11:30. She comes on time and she was a bit taller than I thought. I only saw her sitting down before today. Her face is a 7. 5 and has a noticeable but not terrible baby pocket. Anyways we agreed to 250 k "sexo sin condom" and when she arrived, I noticed during the BBBJ she hasn't taken off her panties yet. So I'm like let's go, she's like no we agreed to 250 k for oral without condom only and I won't do BBFS. Is the translation really that bad? Who pays 250 k for BBBJ + CFS? I'm like no BBFS is fine, then 150 k for CFS. Then she's like no, 150 k is for oral without sex. I rejected that ridiculous offer. She gets upset and threatens to leave, fine for me because if it really came down to who was being honest, I have proof of what we agreed to and nothing was forced on her. But I tried to de-escalate the situation, telling her you're a nice girl, let's calm down and work it out. She finally agrees after I agreed to a 20 k taxi fee, does an OK session with no small talk afterwards. It took some time to get a boner back after having to deal with that, ended up being the worst experience thus far during this trip.

Day 6:

The idea today is to go visit Thailyn, the casa girl from yesterday at around 2, eat and then go visit a park or something, which would be a good idea since almost everything's closed down. Went to the place and the guy says she hasn't come yet. They called her and she starts taking a cab here and she'll be here in 30 min. I go eat near the Basilica for an hour because I was pretty sure it'll take longer than 30 min. Come back, she's still not there. Hung around the casa for a few minutes then I asked them to call me when she's here. I was thinking maybe I'd poke my head in a casa or two without taking while I wait. I was heading towards Chicas Punto Com when my phone rang. Time to go back, 1 and a half hours later than first estimated. Thailyn has a 7.5-8 face, dyed blonde hair, small features except a well formed butt. I think VE and CO share a lot of similar genetics, and there's always debate about who has hotter girls. But in this case Thailyn looks different from other Colombians I've seen. Back at the casa, the room was cramped and hot, and if you turn on the fan it blows in your face. She was good at using that small space efficiently, but I knew I couldn't get off in those conditions so I made the best of my time and got her # and WhatsApp. After I was "done". The guys at the casa asked for propinas. Actually they were helpful with English and calling her, calling me etc so 2 mil for each. Casa price is 45 k and I gave her 30 k extra for BBBJ.

I scheduled Thailyn for later tonight after she gets off work. 150 k for 1 hour because supply is limited at this time, and she knows it. Bela Osorio wanted 400 k / HR that night, Lised Salinas had plans, Juana Gomez did not respond, a few girls from previous days were available but nothing terribly enticing. I remind Thailyn to bring her passport since she has no cedula. Had to get dinner first but nothing was open around the area. Elkin (night time manager) helps me order Burger King, which was the only available choice. Guys were sitting near the pool waiting for their appointments, just like I was. Thailyn comes and said that the Elkin is only allowing her to be there for an hour. Later I found out it's because a lot of Venezuelans are here illegally and it's trouble for the Mansion if the police comes and she's illegal. We get to the session and she starts with a nice BBBJ. I love how she looks at me with those gorgeous eyes while her mouth is on my cock. Every position we get to she's looking at me seductively like she wants to be pounded. The experience is so much better with a big bed and a comfortable ambient temperature. We followed with selfies and photos around the M had a good time talking through the translator, broken Spanish and body gestures. I want to see her again but my schedule's packed for the next 2 days.

Day 7:

I had to visit at least one real Medellin sight during this trip, so I took the metrocable to Arvi Park. This is a trip I think new visitors should take because it's very accessible and the views are great at the same time. I walked to the Poblado metro station (20 min or so), get off at Acevedo, ride the gondola as far as you can, buy another ticket for the gondola ride to the top. I think round trip the tickets were around 15 k, extremely cheap for some nice views of the city, as well as views of the slummier areas of Medellin. On my way back, I tried to get money and apparently Scwhab blocked my account the second time. Wasted another 20 min getting it unblocked.

Yurita (from the M) messages me around 1 or 2 pm and I really wanted to see her. She's got a really happy personality, acts kind of girly but she's currently a student. I think she's been at the Mansion for a year but she doesn't appear to be jaded or is really good at presenting herself as a happy girl. We meet at around 5, and when she took off her clothes, she's like a thinner version of Alejandra. By that I mean her tits aren't as big but still amazingly beautiful, and she's also got a few inches less on the waist as well. I think among all the girls I've met on this trip, her body is probably the best proportioned. If you like big tits, that's Alejandra but Alejandra also comes with a little more meat elsewhere. Yurita has Cs or big BS. Her face isn't bad either, a solid 7. But her warm personality completes that package, well I really should say elevate that package to a totally different level. Yurita loves to suck and fuck and she really gets into it. I just love making eye contact with her while we're fucking and it's easy to get lost. This goes beyond a GFE and is more like a PSE!

After our session I was in heaven. I thought we were done so I took out the agreed-to fee 150 k, but I wanted to take some regular photos of her by the pool and stuff. We go back to the room to check the photos and then started kissing and groping again, I started playing with her tits, we took off the pants and off we go for round 2.

After that we started some small talk. I thought again we're done and money's in my hands, but we decided to go to dinner together. How often do you see an average looking dude with a hot Colombian chick around huh? I feel like a stud LOL. Now on the 25th, more restaurants are open, we have dinner, chat in a mix of English and Spanish (she does know a bit of English so it's much easier to talk to her). She helps with finding the restaurant, the taxi directions, ordering, woooooow. Yea I mean usually a guy is supposed to do all that, but come on, I would have just made a fool of myself without conversational Spanish.

I'm supposed to be meeting Johanna for session #2 tonight and she messages me during our taxi ride home from the restaurant. I didn't (actually couldn't) answer for about 30 min but by that time Johanna went inactive. Thailyn from yesterday also messages me but I said I'll think about it, then she goes inactive. Yurita stayed a bit, I told her no more juice left down there, I gave her a 100 k tip, plus the dinner I think compensated for her extraordinary performance and for having spent 3+ hours with me. First time I thought about making a Mansion girl a girlfriend, but in reality everyone knows that's a big no no. Johanna at around 10:30 said she couldn't make it. So I'm beside the pool no Johanna or Thailyn, SOL tonight with the Mansion empty and this being 11:30 pm or so, no one's answering messages. But Marcela Rios apparently just finished a session with another guest and came by the pool to say Hi to an old friend / guest who I was talking with. Marcela and I are connected on FB but never messaged each other, and she doesn't remember me. The mutual friend introduced us, and since they were speaking 100% Spanish I couldn't join in. During this time though I was FB messaging her via a translator, and she's like sure do you want it now or tomorrow? Unfortunately the guy who she just finished with gave her a so-so review, and she does look a little more difficult to connect with if you don't speak Spanish. Her face is like a 9, but she's thin and lacks butt or boobs, which for me is OK. However, just having spent such a great time with Yurita though, I decided to pass.

Day 8.

Alejandra's supposed to meet me at noon but she comes 15 min early. I was still in my bath towel and I asked her to wait a moment, she's like no need, and comes in anyway. She always seems to be in a hurry. Maybe that's why she's never late, but that attitude carries forward to the bed as well. She does a decent session but I think I'm going to stop seeing her because we don't really connect with each other. She's got the best tits of all the girls I met though. After the session I need to pay my hotel bill and there was a rare brown skinned morena girl in the lounge area. She looks pretty hot. If I didn't have everything already set up, I'd take her like right there. Her name is Juliet from Cali. I got her FB for the next trip. A few girls message me, among them, I told Johanna and Kristina I'll say goodbye before I leave.

The guy who was with Marcela yesterday recommended going over to the Iglesia Veracruz for street girls during the day. The instructions were somewhat vague because I don't know the area, but after about 15 minutes I found the place. It's essentially the back of the church on Cr 53 at the intersection with CL 52. Most of them were poor quality, some were doable. For me though doable chicks you can find in other countries for cheaper, so if I'm picking there I'm looking for gems. This is a good option for those on a budget for sure. Maybe if I look more I'll find a 7+, but I didn't see any. My intention was just to find the place and scout the quality so no big deal. There were also quite a few street girls around Parque Botera as well.

I'm supposed to meet Thailyn again at 5. I knew she was going to be late because of traffic around that time but I didn't know she was going to be 3 hours late. While I was waiting, I see an Indian guy who's not a guest at the hotel wanting to check out the cave. Elkin tells him he has to pay the fee and he leaves. Thailyn shows up at 8. I think she finishes work at 6, which I didn't find out until later, then takes 2 hours to prep and come, which is understandable but I just wish they can estimate their time better. By that time I was starting to worry things were closing, but that is not so. Restaurants around here still had lines out the door. We went to Marriot's Nau Sushi Lounge which was pretty much right across the street, recommended by J's friend. Nice posh location, again, I think I'm getting stares because I'm taking this cute girl around while being quite ordinary myself. Thailyn and I connect very well. She seems really into me, which means she's probably pretty fresh. I'm thinking about developing our relationship a bit more, but I'll see if she ends up harding after a while, maybe she won't be as sweet. Anyways we get back to the M, I'm supposed to meet Camii tonight also, and I'm glad she's in the cave so she doesn't see us as we walk to the room. In the room Thailyn starts an oil massage then we end with a very GFE-plus session. 150 k+50 k propina (FYI this propina is way more than what I would pay for a standard Mansion session). Well guys I think it's safe to say that Thailyn is a gem and trying to find someone like her around the Centro casas is very much YMMV. I just got very lucky.

Thailyn leaves, I take a break and call up Camii around 12:30 am. I like Camii, and I think she likes me a bit as well, but she's a smart hardened girl who I can't expect too much from. But among all the Mansion girls I've been with, she probably works the hardest. When I first got to the Mansion, my libido levels were super high and I thought everyone was hot. Now that I got used to it, Camii still looks nice, but after 2 sessions already today, it was a bit harder to finish with her. If I let my dick do the thinking I probably would have went with Johanna, who was also there that night. Camii also fucks hard, and I didn't realize it during my first session with her, but her hip thrusts will slide my body an inch or two up and down the bed LOL. After our session, Camii falls asleep naked on my bed, I checked my phone and Kristina messaged me like, you were supposed to say goodbye to me. I'm like oh shit I forgot, I go out and Kristina and Johanna's right next to the pool. No one else around since it's 2 am. They welcome me with open arms, I sit between them, they grab me and kiss me, put my hand on their boobs etc, I take some selfies with them. But I'm like ah damn, this is good and bad at the same time. I'm enjoying this but they definitely want money and I'm out of both pesos and semen. I only have enough for the taxi out. So I'm like hey I can't do this, I just wanted to say goodbye to you guys. I bought them some beers, more touching and kissing, Johanna was having fun as always, and Kristina's kind of drunk. Kristina goes like, you can go to the ATM right? I refused to do that for various reasons. I think she was disappointed, but I gave them some USD each as that's all I have left. Kristina clearly wanted more, but I told her no can do. Camii wakes up, comes out of my room, sees me talking with her friends, kisses me in front of them, chats with us for 2 minutes and goes home. Not awkward at all, for the Mansion. This is a different world for sure. I had to go pack my stuff so I say goodbye to Kristina and Johanna.

"Taxi" ride to the airport was a private driver that the M arranged ahead of time. It's supposed to be 75 k but the guy asked me for 85. I'm like 75 k is all I have and he's OK with it. COPA flight back was better than the flight to MDE. Still 737's but they have individual back of the seat video panels on this plane.

Final thoughts:

Medellin is different from other places I've been to and the Mansion itself is a surreal place within a much larger pussy paradise. I think Medellin takes more work than other places for an average American simply due to language, but you can get more out of it if you do put in the work. Among the things I didn't do was I didn't check out Fase Dos or any of the lower end strip clubs in Centro. Didn't go to Mayorista (might need a wingman there). I also read Lindas Chicas was supposed to have a big selection among the casas. There were a few FB girls that I wanted to meet but could not schedule. I need to do more sightseeing as well. All that for next time![/QUOTE]

Vera Cruz 30 k ($10) girls who I am missing so much now that I am home.

First 3 pics, Snapshot #4, #5 & #24 are various.

Kicking myself now for not spending $10 on the chick in #9 in the white top with head-band. Or her cute little friend with the big rack in #8.

I also ran into my Centro spinner Luisa 3 months before I met her in Sept it turns out. (she was the one who had lost her ID and didn't replace it till I was otw to airport). These pics are all from June.

In #10 I am walking towards her in the blue suspenders standing next to her GF with the shorts and half shirt with a heart on it. I ended up talking to her GF for a sec but Luisa looks a lot different then she did 3 months later with makeup and streaked hair etc (as in final pic). Her GF claimed to have ID but I was looking for Sara and moved on.

In #13 her GF starts giving me the eye and then in #12 I am getting the full treatment. LOL. And that's Luisa in pic #15 looking decidedly unhappy and then the last pic is what she looks like in Sept.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2122190]Now that's a trip report!!

Well done Tassss. You showed us how to have a great time![/QUOTE]Report of Distinction material, here! Kudos to Tasssss.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2122190]Now that's a trip report!!

Well done Tassss. You showed us how to have a great time![/QUOTE]Just to say it is a good report. There are a number of reports before yours that show good examples to make it much easier to follow the thread, especially for people viewing on their phone.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2122245]There are a number of reports before yours that show good examples to make it much easier to follow the thread, especially for people viewing on their phone.[/QUOTE]Could you point to one? I think ISG doesn't work very well with phones. I've tried to read it on a phone and it's not easy. I think on a laptop, having a giant single report works the best since there's no need to refer back to earlier posts and the entire report has a lot of searchable keywords.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2122201]Vera Cruz 30 k ($10) girls who I am missing so much now that I am home. [/QUOTE]Some of them are pretty cute. I think I should look more at Centro next time but it's not the best place for a solo non-Spanish speaker close to sunset. I felt that I had to be on guard more while I was walking there. I was accosted by a TS while waiting for a taxi which was funny at the time, but some TS from other countries can be aggressive. I just read your reports and Raudal looks like another area with some promise as well.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2122190]Now that's a trip report!![/QUOTE]Thanks!

Correct for Medellin, though I am not sure about the other cities / countries.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2122044]I have a theory.

Please let us know?

All even numbers houses are in the South, all odds numbers are in the North. East numbers are even and West numbers are odd.

That is around the whole world. USA Anyway. I think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2122271]. I think I should look more at Centro next time but it's not the best place for a solo non-Spanish speaker close to sunset. I felt that I had to be on guard more while I was walking thereThanks![/QUOTE]Smart move!

I even don't recommend El Centro to Spanish-speaking Colombians. Usually, residents in Poblado and Envigado avoid El Centro and refuse to accept that the people in Centro are Paisas as well. Great majority of TS in Latin America are aggressive, and traditionally they are considered to be thieves as well.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2122271]Some of them are pretty cute. I think I should look more at Centro next time but it's not the best place for a solo non-Spanish speaker close to sunset. I felt that I had to be on guard more while I was walking there. I was accosted by a TS while waiting for a taxi which was funny at the time, but some TS from other countries can be aggressive. I just read your reports and Raudal looks like another area with some promise as well.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2122271]I think I should look more at Centro next time but it's not the best place for a solo non-Spanish speaker close to sunset. I felt that I had to be on guard more while I was walking there.[/QUOTE]I usually hit the redlight blocks a few times between 10 am-3 pm. Can take a few laps at different times to find something you like, just depends how picky you are for $10. By 4 to 5 you start to get more drunk locals off work and partying there, best to be elsewhere if you are by yourself with limited Spanish. I am gone by sundown and had a wingman and speak fluent Spanish. Luckily the Centro strip clubs open early like 3 p and the 3 main ones are just a few blocks apart and you always have the Casa run's too. Personally I like the strip club method better, you have more time to check out the chicks & their personalities / sexiness and more chicks to choose from as they will have up to 40 to 50 girls on a good weekend night at Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva will have 20 to 30 and right next door Maracaibo will have 10+. So in 3 blocks you have up to 90 women to choose from. Some weeknights you won't find anything of course and some weekends depending on what time you are there and who came to work when.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2122461]Correct for Medellin, though I am not sure about the other cities / countries.[/QUOTE]I picked a random city, Copenhagen. I looked at three restaurants on Vesterbrogade and the odd numbers are on the south side of the street, not the north side. It ain't world wide. Now let's look at Buenos Aires. Odd numbers on east side of street as in the former Hook and Catto's had even numbers and the privado across the street at Suipacha 921 is on the east side or river side. And even numbers are on the south side.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2122538]I picked a random city, Copenhagen. I looked at three restaurants on Vesterbrogade and the odd numbers are on the south side of the street, not the north side. It ain't world wide. Now let's look at Buenos Aires. Odd numbers on east side of street as in the former Hook and Catto's had even numbers and the privado across the street at Suipacha 921 is on the east side or river side. And even numbers are on the south side.[/QUOTE]Good point, when I was in Berlin a few years ago, I got lost really bad once trying to find an address. Turns out the the street numbers ran in opposite directions on different sides of that particular street. (If you are ever in Berlin trying to find Anni Porsche, look at the numbers on both sides of the street) Totally unlike anything I experienced in Germany, where such things tend to be uniform. Point being, irregularities exist even when order and logic usually prevails.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2121996]Total newbie experience in the M. Two weeks of Duolingo Spanish is all I got under my belt and finished maybe 25% of the exercises. I'm actually good with languages but didn't have to time to study that much before this trip since it was mostly a scouting trip of sorts. Also I'm just doing one giant post because of how hard it is to page flip through ISG.[/QUOTE]Great report. In the past week using your earlier post I've built up my facebook network from 1 to 40 friends, which is definitely overkill, but I just can't stop myself from messaging every pretty face and hot bod that pops up in my suggestions. Did any of the girls you were with insist on CBJ? Did you negotiate every expected act beforehand?

Yes, think about it, 8 to 10 or more of those girls for the price of 1/2 of a Mansion worker. If Veracruz is too down and dirty then the casas are a good bridge option. Mr. Tasss is correct about staying alert. One of the better Centro tips is there is safety in numbers. The danger increases in direct proportion to how deserted your surroundings are. I've never seen, for example, an innocent person subjected to violence in Botero Plaza. I've seen more petty thieves beaten up by a mob than I can count. We've all seen dustups between girls and between random glueheads, but remember I said innocent. The Spanish thing is not a big deal if you keep things simple: hold out 10 fingers three times to indicate how much you will pay and then point toward one of the hotels, there will be no misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2122464]Smart move![/QUOTE]

I was in Medellin between December 23rd and 26th.

I had finished the Learn Spanish with John Noble Course a few days before my trip and it made me feel confident that I could speak Spanish as good as the native speakers. My first rude awakening was inside the flight when I tried to speak to the flight attendants in Spanish, but every time they did not understand what I was saying.

December 23rd.

I arrived Medellin in the evening and quickly checked in to my Airbnb apartment in Laureles.

I went to Gusto in Parque Lleras around 12:30 am and saw only about 3 girls working there. As I only like to take the girl "toda la noche", I asked 2 of the girls and they quoted 500,000 and 600,000 after negotiations. I also checked out the Streetwalkers and only saw about 5, but nothing I would stick my stuff into among them.

I then took a taxi from there to Fase Dos, and there were about 13 girls working with about 15 guys. 190,000 for 40 minutes (I think). Most of the girls were available for 400,000 TLN. I took about 6 numbers at Fase Dos. After the girls finished at Fase Dos, they went to another club called San Diego where I was able to get a girl TLN for 300,000.

December 24.

This was the absolute worst day to be in Medellin, everywhere was closed with very few people on the street. I called all the places to enquire if they were open but to no avail.

I called all the numbers I took from Fase Dos the previous night and all of them said they were celebrating Christmas with their families. I managed to convince one (Mariana) to come to my apartment since she lives not too far away. She said she was going to come at 6 pm but she did not arrive until 9:30 pm and she kept messaging her mum on her phone that she was at her friend's house. She stayed until midnight and gave her 300,000.

December 25.

I was happy when I called Gusto and they said they were open today. When I got there, there was absolutely nobody inside. I tried to talk to one of hot waitress to see if she will bite, but she rejected my advances. I checked out the streetwalkers and saw a very hot 22 year old, I tried to negotiate with her and she kept mentioning her price in dollars, she started with $300, and later dropped her price to $200.

And refused to come down from that amount. She said she usually works at Gusto but not that night. I called Mariana afterwards from the previous night and we agreed 400000 TLN.

I went to Medellin at the absolute worst time or I went to the wrong places. I had a much better time in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Talon;2122563]Great report. In the past week using your earlier post I've built up my facebook network from 1 to 40 friends, which is definitely overkill, but I just can't stop myself from messaging every pretty face and hot bod that pops up in my suggestions. Did any of the girls you were with insist on CBJ? Did you negotiate every expected act beforehand?[/QUOTE]Haha that's how I was when I got started. But 40 isn't enough and neither is 100 really because when you have the urge, there may be 10% of the girls who are active on messenger. Build up to at least 100 so you have options. I'll hopefully be able to add 100 more before my next trip.

[QUOTE=Talon;2122563]Did any of the girls you were with insist on CBJ? Did you negotiate every expected act beforehand?[/QUOTE]Forgot to answer this. Yes ask for everything you want before hand incl BBBJ and make sure you confirm the price including any taxi. A lot of times I say either ". Mil con taxi" or ". Mil para todo". I did not get CBJ while I was there, even if I forgot to ask a few times.

Had to share this one with why'all!

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/giselle-rica-scort-oral-el-natural-3146575356/9366182/[/URL]

Sessioned with Luz this afternoon. She is a tall Venezuelana, above average looks, beautiful hair.

Incredible attitude. The ad said 120 k for the hour & I asked for the BBBJ & she up sold for 40 K.

More. Well worth it. She was pounded hard & loved it. Started and finished with the BBBJ & CIM.

As soon as I got back to my hotel, I loked at her ad to share with why'all & she was running a promotion for.

100 k for the hour! Dammit!! If you contact her tell her you saw the promotion for 100 k. Well worth it.

Beautiful apt on Calle 45 G, close to the safe house where Pablo was killed! Full report when I get back next week.

Also the fb contact thing is working out beautifully!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2122601]I was in Medellin between December 23rd and 26th.

I went to Medellin at the absolute worst time or I went to the wrong places. I had a much better time in Bogota.[/QUOTE]As mentioned a few times here, it is best to avoid Latin American countries during very large Catholic holidays (Christmas, Easter).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2122612]As mentioned a few times here, it is best to avoid Latin American countries during very large Catholic holidays (Christmas, Easter).[/QUOTE]I have been here since Tue afternoon 12/26 & cannot believe how awesome this place is. I'm doing fb contacts & have never had better luck! If I weren't empty & broke from all the fb chicas, there are a ton of hotties in and around Botero Plaza and Conejitas & the 2-3 other strip bars around there, Mariciabo, Barra Ejuctiva. Not a bunch in each one but between all the places in and around Botero there is anything you would want! Stay in El Centro next year between Navidad & New Year!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2122517]I even don't recommend El Centro to Spanish-speaking Colombians. Usually, residents in Poblado and Envigado avoid El Centro and refuse to accept that the people in Centro are Paisas as well. Great majority of TS in Latin America are aggressive, and traditionally they are considered to be thieves as well.[/QUOTE]The only reason Poblado and Envigado residents avoid El Centro is because most of them have no reason to go to El Centro. Same is true with most of the people in Laureles, Belen, Bello, etc. I spent about an hour in El Centro on Christmas with 3 generations of a native Colombian family and they had no concerns whatsoever. You might want to talk to some more natives. Several of the Antioquia natives I know specifically point to El Centro as the heart of Paisa culture.

Personally, I don't recommend anyone go to El Centro, but I'm happy to tag along if I'm not busy. The reason I don't recommend it is because I don't know you. I don't know your experience or your comfort level. I also don't know if you have any sense. I really don't want to hear that some cargo shorts and sandals wearing gringo got robbed or worse because he was wandering around with his gold chains, looking at his new iPhone.

El Centro isn't for everyone. If you go, be smart about it.

Went to Fase II Thursday night from about 9:30 to after 1 am. Very few guys there early, although it ended up getting pretty full. Probably around 30 - 40 girls in the club when we left. Whatever you're looking for you can probably find it there. Not many guys were taking girls.

10 k entry, 190 k for a girl onsite, next door. Beer is 20 k, chica drinks 24 k. I picked a girl who wasn't my type and wasn't the hottest, but she was what I needed.

One note: they only accept BancoColombia cards and no ATM on site. However, for 10 k they will take you to an ATM and bring you back.

Things are pretty slow on the holidays, especially the 24th, which is when they really celebrate Christmas. New Year's Eve will also be slow, as it's another night for family celebrations. There are still girls available. Having a well populated Facebook list comes in handy. The girls were out on Christmas day in El Centro, but not in Botero Plaza.

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2122601]
I went to Medellin at the absolute worst time or I went to the wrong places. I had a much better time in Bogota.[/QUOTE]The hookers I kept in touch with from Bogota were all celebrating with familieis (facebook and whatsapp photos). Only go during the holidays if you absolutely have solid chicas who make plans with you. Most of them are with family and boyfriends right now.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! I'm flying out March 13th and staying until the 19th and I have a bunch of questions. So I'm going with a group of 10 total and none of us speak Spanish very well, do you think we would be able to get around easily with a big group with out any problems? I believe we are staying in El Poblado in an airbnb. What is the best option when trying to meet women? I've read that you can go to strip clubs, massage parlors etc. But I know my guys would like to find women they can take back to the airbnb and have them stay the night for example, going to a local bar or club and picking women up there. So what would be our best options since we don't speak Spanish that well? Also my guys won't listen to me when I tell them that I did the research and that we probably should not be flashy while with out there, I read it everywhere saying don't wear jewelry or flashing clothing and my guys like to flash what should I tell them? Lastly, even though we all came to Colombia for the women we also would like to do so site seeing and finding fun things to do other than drinking and sleeping with women, what else does Medellin have to offer?[/QUOTE]I can't offer you advice on the scene in Medellin, but here is a good, up to date and free travel resource. [URL]https://wikitravel.org/en/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL] Guidebooks are ok, but often way out of date. I like to find forums specializing in a region and get advice there too.

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2122601]

I went to Medellin at the absolute worst time or I went to the wrong places. I had a much better time in Bogota.[/QUOTE]News flash, Bogota would have sucked on those nights as well.

You didn't realize it was Christmas Eve and Christmas Day?

The days leading to Christmas Eve and even after Christmas, leading to New Years Eve can be great.

Girls trying to earn holiday cash.

On the actual holiday though, not so good.

The only worse days would be Holy Thursday and Friday of Easter week.

Ghost town.

I was in Rio de Janeiro on Christmas Eve, dead as well.

I knew that coming in, got invited to a girlfriend's house for dinner and choir boy activities, LOL.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2122245]Just to say it is a good report. There are a number of reports before yours that show good examples to make it much easier to follow the thread, especially for people viewing on their phone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2122271]Could you point to one? I think ISG doesn't work very well with phones. I've tried to read it on a phone and it's not easy. I think on a laptop, having a giant single report works the best since there's no need to refer back to earlier posts and the entire report has a lot of searchable keywords.[/QUOTE]My comment was directed at Chesscat for copying your entire report just to say "Good report". There are reports just after yours from Wolf552 and SavePros321 which copy just short parts of your report. I agree with you that having one long report is good. I don't understand why someone will copy the entire report to just say good report.

[QUOTE=Judd;2118178]Strip clubs are about the only option for "night mongering" if you are not into streetwalkers or the Lleras scene. I get your hesitation for not wanting to go to the Centro clubs alone. It took me a couple of trips to MDE before I felt comfortable in the city to venture into those establishments alone. While I've never had any issues wit the locals, you need to remember most of the dudes at these places are getting shit faced, and snorting lines of coke in the bathroom.

Send me a PM, letting me know when you'll be in town. Then, if you want, I can take you around to check out these clubs and get your tree trimmed for about 70-90 k.

Late,

Judd.[/QUOTE]Loutron, Calle 16 a sur near Paintball extreme, up in the hills East of El poblado is open until 10 pm. This place caters to foreigners and is pricey at 280 k. Other guys were talking this place up as the best casa w elite girls, but I think I only saw their 2nd tier girls during the holidays. Service felt more fake rushed, rooms are cold in the mountains and difficult to find transport. Uber gave us 15 min wait times and not a lot of taxis to flag down. Guys there said the girls were usually top notch so if you don't mind the $ and transport issues.

Energy, went around 5 pm, again it was during holidays, so 2nd tier 6 & 7's and no flaquitas so I moved on.

New Life, thanks to the poster who put the picture of blue door up. It was very helpful, there was also old guy outside mumbling New Life. Can tell your transport to drop you at botanika bistro as well. If you don't know the right routing from Parque barrio, I wouldn't walk here. The area around la Paz is industrial, trash scavengers, etc. About 20 girls, a little older and less quality than Energy, but there was one flaquita, Sharon I think. Great attitude & performance and 65 k for 45 min. Can't beat that price.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2118133]Luna Lunera is open and staffed 24/7. The cost is $110 K per half hour. Buying drinks or lady drinks is optional and so are lap dances or anything other than taking a girl to a room for the price mentioned. They do charge for condoms. I can't tell you how much and it doesn't matter if you bring your own. The quality of the girls is generally as good or better than any of the Centro places.[/QUOTE]Went from 2-4 am during holidays and about a dozen girls working, maybe their 2nd tier crew. Mostly 6-7's w maybe one 8. One flaquita and some slender athletic types. Although they advertise as 24/7, they were turning off the lights at 4 when there weren't anymore customers. Also, the girls said the best time to come is around 11 pm so probably lightly staffed at other times. Place is more relaxed then Fase dos and more areas to talk to chicks first and feel them out. Defn should taxi / Uber to / from this spot. Good backup option.

[QUOTE=SipThisJuice;2120813]This will be my first trip to Medellin and super excited! I'm flying out March 13th and staying until the 19th and I have a bunch of questions. So I'm going with a group of 10 total and none of us speak Spanish very well, do you think we would be able to get around easily with a big group with out any problems? I believe we are staying in El Poblado in an airbnb. What is the best option when trying to meet women? I've read that you can go to strip clubs, massage parlors etc. But I know my guys would like to find women they can take back to the airbnb and have them stay the night for example, going to a local bar or club and picking women up there. So what would be our best options since we don't speak Spanish that well? Also my guys won't listen to me when I tell them that I did the research and that we probably should not be flashy while with out there, I read it everywhere saying don't wear jewelry or flashing clothing and my guys like to flash what should I tell them? Lastly, even though we all came to Colombia for the women we also would like to do so site seeing and finding fun things to do other than drinking and sleeping with women, what else does Medellin have to offer?[/QUOTE]1. Medellin is not Las Vegas.

2. Group of 10? See #1.

3. 10 Guys who speak no Spanish? See #1.

4. 9 guys who won't listen to the only guy who bothers to do research? See #1.

I think you get my point, so I'll stop with the numerical list.

IMO, no, your group will not get around easily. Personally, I think going to Colombia is best served going lone wolf or with one or two other guys max. Doing the large group thing can be difficult and lends itself to guys acting the fool, etc.

If you insist on Colombia, I'd consider two things:

1. Break your group up into sub-groups.

2. Go to Cartagena first instead of Medellin.

Just my two cents. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2122833]If you insist on Colombia, I'd consider two things:
1. Break your group up into sub-groups.[/QUOTE]Yeah, break it into two sub-groups: You, and the nine idiots who are going to cause you nothing but trouble.

[QUOTE=SenatorDavis;2122821]Loutron,. This place caters to foreigners and is pricey at 280 k. Other guys were talking this place up as the best casa w elite girls, but I think I only saw their 2nd tier girls during the holidays.[/QUOTE]Same chicks. Just that guys have fooled themselves into believing the higher the price the better the girls.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2122833]1. Medellin is not Las Vegas.

2. Group of 10? See #1.

3. 10 Guys who speak no Spanish? See #1.

4. 9 guys who won't listen to the only guy who bothers to do research? See #1.

I think you get my point, so I'll stop with the numerical list.

IMO, no, your group will not get around easily. Personally, I think going to Colombia is best served going lone wolf or with one or two other guys max. Doing the large group thing can be difficult and lends itself to guys acting the fool, etc.

If you insist on Colombia, I'd consider two things:

1. Break your group up into sub-groups.

2. Go to Cartagena first instead of Medellin.

Just my two cents. Have fun![/QUOTE]Yep, Cartagena would be a better bet, or rent out the entire Mansion.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2122894]Yeah, break it into two sub-groups: You, and the nine idiots who are going to cause you nothing but trouble.[/QUOTE]LMAO!

Post of the year!.

So funny, but so true.

Any recommendations for regular top clubs in Medellin with a possibility of meeting regular or freelancer girls? Staying in Poblado. Been hitting bars in Parque Lleras and it's pretty hipster-trashy now.

Thanks.

Church!

I couldn't agree more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2122904]Same chicks. Just that guys have fooled themselves into believing the higher the price the better the girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2122971]Any recommendations for regular top clubs in Medellin with a possibility of meeting regular or freelancer girls? Staying in Poblado. Been hitting bars in Parque Lleras and it's pretty hipster-trashy now.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Freelancers work out of Gustos in parque lleras.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2122971]Any recommendations for regular top clubs in Medellin with a possibility of meeting regular or freelancer girls? Staying in Poblado. Been hitting bars in Parque Lleras and it's pretty hipster-trashy now.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Time for my monthly "can you" post.

Can you speak Spanish? Good enough to carry on a basic conversation. Can you dance? Can you regularly pick up regular 20 year old back home in top clubs? If you can't do these things, your only option for regular girls is to spend money like a rockstar.

Freelancers can be found in most of the dance bars in Lleras. You'll also found them on the streets around Lleras.

Freelancers, semi-pros, non-pros, university students partimers, shop girls - - all these fine shades of meaning remind me of a college professor once telling me there are more than ten words in Eskimo languages for "snow".

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2122971]Any recommendations for regular top clubs in Medellin with a possibility of meeting regular or freelancer girls? Staying in Poblado. Been hitting bars in Parque Lleras and it's pretty hipster-trashy now.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SenatorDavis;2122821]Loutron, Calle 16 a sur near Paintball extreme, up in the hills East of El poblado is open until 10 pm. This place caters to foreigners and is pricey at 280 k. Other guys were talking this place up as the best casa w elite girls, but I think I only saw their 2nd tier girls during the holidays. Service felt more fake rushed, rooms are cold in the mountains and difficult to find transport. Uber gave us 15 min wait times and not a lot of taxis to flag down. Guys there said the girls were usually top notch so if you don't mind the $ and transport issues.

Energy, went around 5 pm, again it was during holidays, so 2nd tier 6 & 7's and no flaquitas so I moved on.

New Life, thanks to the poster who put the picture of blue door up. It was very helpful, there was also old guy outside mumbling New Life. Can tell your transport to drop you at botanika bistro as well. If you don't know the right routing from Parque barrio, I wouldn't walk here. The area around la Paz is industrial, trash scavengers, etc. About 20 girls, a little older and less quality than Energy, but there was one flaquita, Sharon I think. Great attitude & performance and 65 k for 45 min. Can't beat that price.[/QUOTE]I have been to Loutrons a few times and try to go on each visit to Medellin. The facilities there are superior to other casas and I have found the chicas generally to be physically more attractive as well. My all time hottest chica I've ever sessioned was actually at New Life about ten years ago. However, numbers 2, 3, 4 etc. must have come from Loutrons. However, the service is no different from other casas.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2123096]Time for my monthly "can you" post.

Can you speak Spanish? Good enough to carry on a basic conversation. Can you dance? Can you regularly pick up regular 20 year old back home in top clubs? If you can't do these things, your only option for regular girls is to spend money like a rockstar.

Freelancers can be found in most of the dance bars in Lleras. You'll also found them on the streets around Lleras.[/QUOTE]You'll also find freelancers working at the clubs along Carrera 70 and along Carrera 80, and at the clubs in Envigado and Itagui. Wherever there's a lot of people partying hard, there's usually a few freelancers working around the edges.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2122894]Yeah, break it into two sub-groups: You, and the nine idiots who are going to cause you nothing but trouble.[/QUOTE]Even better!!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2123096]Time for my monthly "can you" post.

Can you speak Spanish? Good enough to carry on a basic conversation. Can you dance? Can you regularly pick up regular 20 year old back home in top clubs? If you can't do these things, your only option for regular girls is to spend money like a rockstar.

Freelancers can be found in most of the dance bars in Lleras. You'll also found them on the streets around Lleras.[/QUOTE]Excellent dancer, decent Spanish. I was asking advice about places outside of Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2123243]Excellent dancer, decent Spanish. I was asking advice about places outside of Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]The top regular clubs in Medellin are in Parque Lleras. It's the zona Rosa of Medellin. Sorry for the confusion. There are several other areas with a fair concentration of clubs, although nothing like the numbers of clubs in Lleras. Some of the areas you might not be comfortable in. Some you might not be safe in.

Pop up Google maps and the clubs are pretty easy to find.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2123243]Excellent dancer, decent Spanish. I was asking advice about places outside of Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]Try Laureles around carrera 70 and calle 43. There's a lot of little places. One of the things to know is Colombians go in groups with a male chaperone. Routard has a dating FAQ in the blogs section. You can get invited to sit with one of these groups but its rare and happens typically late when everyone is drunk.

My advice is go early to the clubs in El Poblado and get to know a waitress. Show you speak Spanish and aren't a total creepester. Smiling and making cute little Spanish mistakes helps, hahah. I've been point blank asked out before by waitresses at Mi Nina among a few other places. Pretend you have no clue where things are. Make small talk. Ask her when she'll be working again. Go back early again and be nice. Then ask if she wants to do something on her day off.

I'm not even good looking or particularly young. And I've been hit on numerous times with a follow-up of a few months of them trying to invite me to meet their family. Totally doable.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2123210]Freelancers, semi-pros, non-pros, university students partimers, shop girls - - all these fine shades of meaning remind me of a college professor once telling me there are more than ten words in Eskimo languages for "snow".[/QUOTE]Apparently there are more than ten words for what [B]rhymes[/B] with 'snow' as well. Like Tiger Woods could have been Santa Claus if he had just stopped after three 'Hos. '.

[QUOTE=Jan156;1755035]UPSTAIRS BAR, CRR. 53. Sorry, I didn't check the name, but there's only one. It's on a corner as you wander along Carrera 53 from Calle 53. I'd just enjoyed a beer at Tony's a nice place to hang out where you can flirt, size up local malandros and they assure themselves that you are not a mark or whatever. The upstairs strip bar is on the same side, on a corner on the left, as you continue in the direction of the Museum, Prado, etc. A few uglies but plenty of nice looking girls. Good strip show while another girl tempted me quite successfully by dancing fully clothed but being very sexy and no pressure.

Easy to see which I like, but others will tell you only the devil when he's drunk will go down Calle 53.[/QUOTE](From a 2015 report).

Anybody know what bar he is talking about?

Maybe the upstairs place on the corner of Car 53 and Calle 51? The Grill Venecia at CL. 51 #53-10?

Never looked closely at it but the sign does say "Grill Venecia-attended by pretty girls" so I assume that's a strip club. And he liked it better then FaseII & Conejitas in his post!

On a side note, Google Street view has new images up in the Veracruz area, now from June 2017, the last images were from 2013.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2122971]Any recommendations for regular top clubs in Medellin with a possibility of meeting regular or freelancer girls? Staying in Poblado. Been hitting bars in Parque Lleras and it's pretty hipster-trashy now.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't been yet and it's way up in Bello but the party block in Barrio Obrero looks pretty fun on a Sat night.

VID:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZlLEmYOgME&index=4&t=252s&list=FLKmbj3XF1ryOYtieVrQey4g[/URL]

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2123276]Try Laureles around carrera 70 and calle 43. There's a lot of little places. One of the things to know is Colombians go in groups with a male chaperone. Routard has a dating FAQ in the blogs section. You can get invited to sit with one of these groups but its rare and happens typically late when everyone is drunk.

My advice is go early to the clubs in El Poblado and get to know a waitress. Show you speak Spanish and aren't a total creepester. Smiling and making cute little Spanish mistakes helps, hahah. I've been point blank asked out before by waitresses at Mi Nina among a few other places. Pretend you have no clue where things are. Make small talk. Ask her when she'll be working again. Go back early again and be nice. Then ask if she wants to do something on her day off.

I'm not even good looking or particularly young. And I've been hit on numerous times with a follow-up of a few months of them trying to invite me to meet their family. Totally doable.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much, will do!

Guys,

I have gone through quite a few history on this forum. While I see many reports on Casas, can someone please recommend good and reliable escort agencies in Medellin? I do understand that they are a bit more expensive compared to what you get out there. However I prefer the safety of them coming into my hotel room. So please recommend agencies and if you have had experience with them. I do not speak Spanish at all. Also. If there is a good agency / website that offers massages in hotel room with extras. Would be appreciated.

I will be in Medellin for a few days end of Jan. And will be staying in Hampton by Hilton Medellin. Any issues bringing over a friend to this hotel?

Thanks,

Vgs.

Are there any white European looking Colombian chicas, I know that sometimes physical appearance varies depending on which town you're in.

[QUOTE=Vip6682;2123339]Are there any white European looking Colombian chicas, I know that sometimes physical appearance varies depending on which town you're in.[/QUOTE]Like this? Estrella from FaseDos.

[QUOTE=VgsFun;2123333]Guys,

I have gone through quite a few history on this forum. While I see many reports on Casas, can someone please recommend good and reliable escort agencies in Medellin? I do understand that they are a bit more expensive compared to what you get out there. However I prefer the safety of them coming into my hotel room. So please recommend agencies and if you have had experience with them. I do not speak Spanish at all. Also. If there is a good agency / website that offers massages in hotel room with extras. Would be appreciated.

I will be in Medellin for a few days end of Jan. And will be staying in Hampton by Hilton Medellin. Any issues bringing over a friend to this hotel?

Thanks,

Vgs.[/QUOTE]Why not go direct, many of these girls do outcall:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin[/URL]

And reviews of the girls here: (in Spanish, in Chrome right click and select "translate to English"- do same on escort site).

[URL]https://www.catadordeprepagosmedallo.com/[/URL]

I'd be surprised if they were happy with hookers at the Hampton but don't know. Can always meet them at a short term sex hotel with Jacuzzi and then your stuff is all safe back at the hotel.

Ok guys, I'm back in FLL now waiting on a flight back to MSY. WHAT A TRIP!! Like I keep telling everyone, each trip is better than the last. Fb hookups were the theme of the week (except for Manuela Restrepo! That ***** still pisses me off). They were all awesome. Full report to come Within the next week or so. I want to share this little Winner Spinner from co. Mileroticos punto com. Her name is Paulina, little short, straight black hair PAISA with an incredible 100# body & what a performer. Hit of the week even with all the fantastic fb hookups I had!

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/paulina-nueva-y-descomplicada-ven-y-disfruta-de-mis-servicios-3193438035/8921621/[/URL]

Give her a call! She is the PAISA in the pics! She started out at 280 k COP + taxi. I told her sorry & good luck, demasiado rico para mi sangre!! She texted back 200 k + taxi & I countered with 200 k & no taxi and I understood if she couldn't accept that offer. She said she'the be over in 1 HR which of course was 90 min. Anyway, she wanted the $ upfront & since she was a prepago, I gave it to her. Then she started complaining about the increased cost (20 k) of the taxi due to traffic. I told her oh well, how about a couple of pair of Victoria Secret panties & she melted & provided an awesome performance! Whomever suggested the $4 VS panties is a genius, my new hero & should be awarded the Golden Monger Award!

The VS ($4 when bought in bulk) literally makes their panties drop! Ha.

Happy New Year.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Vip6682;2123339]Are there any white European looking Colombian chicas, I know that sometimes physical appearance varies depending on which town you're in.[/QUOTE]Man you have 130 questions out of 131 posts. Search colombian women on google for instant reaults.

Anyone in Medellin wants to grab beers and meet girls please PM me, I am here until Jan 9.

[QUOTE=VgsFun;2123333]Guys,

I have gone through quite a few history on this forum. While I see many reports on Casas, can someone please recommend good and reliable escort agencies in Medellin? I do understand that they are a bit more expensive compared to what you get out there. However I prefer the safety of them coming into my hotel room. So please recommend agencies and if you have had experience with them. I do not speak Spanish at all. Also. If there is a good agency / website that offers massages in hotel room with extras. Would be appreciated.

I will be in Medellin for a few days end of Jan. And will be staying in Hampton by Hilton Medellin. Any issues bringing over a friend to this hotel?

Thanks,

Vgs.[/QUOTE]Unless you have these girls register with you at time of check in. I doubt it well be easy to bring in any girls. The hotels have been very strict lately.

Good evening!

I just flew in today, spent 18 months in Thailand a couple of years back and I'll be here for about 6 months. Probably in South America for a couple of years. I've been mongering for about 30 years off and on.

I read the Christmas posts and how dead it was and didn't think it would be quite so dead on New Year's Eve, in Bangkok or Pattaya there would be multiple clubs with parties and specials, I'd have thought at least one club would be going off. No such luck. It is kind of nice that even the working girls are getting some family time on a holiday.

Seems like you have to be a bit more careful here than in Thailand, I'd walk through anywhere in Bangkok day or night and feel perfectly safe. Though I've spent quite a bit of time in developing countries, so not an issue, just something to watch out for.

I've got a copy of the map and walked 5 miles today trying to find some action! At least I got to know the area a bit, I'm in Laureles.

Looking forward to meeting folks and getting to know the scene, I'm actually hoping to find a girlfriend but I'm not going to be celibate in the meantime! My Spanish is shit, so I'll be taking lessons.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2123380]Unless you have these girls register with you at time of check in. I doubt it well be easy to bring in any girls. The hotels have been very strict lately.[/QUOTE]Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?

Thanks,

Vgs.

I recognize the 1970's color orange sheet topper LOL! - Botero Plaza. Pretty girl, shame about the tattoo.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2123354]Like this? Estrella from FaseDos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2122601]I was in Medellin between December 23rd and 26th.

I had finished the Learn Spanish with John Noble Course a few days before my trip and it made me feel confident that I could speak Spanish as good as the native speakers. My first rude awakening was inside the flight when I tried to speak to the flight attendants in Spanish, but every time they did not understand what I was saying.

December 23rd.

I arrived Medellin in the evening and quickly checked in to my Airbnb apartment in Laureles.

I went to Gusto in Parque Lleras around 12:30 am and saw only about 3 girls working there. As I only like to take the girl "toda la noche", I asked 2 of the girls and they quoted 500,000 and 600,000 after negotiations. I also checked out the Streetwalkers and only saw about 5, but nothing I would stick my stuff into among them.

I then took a taxi from there to Fase Dos, and there were about 13 girls working with about 15 guys. 190,000 for 40 minutes (I think)..[/QUOTE]Does Mariana have blond hair cute face, natural boobs? I took her on site room in Fase dos about two weeks ago But chemistry was not there. I tried to get her number just in case but she asked money. She said she's studying nursing.

[QUOTE=VgsFun;2123679]Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?

Thanks,

Vgs.[/QUOTE]Porton,

I believe, is the nicest girl friendly hotel in El Poblado. It clearly states on the card they give you at check in that you may and should register other guests that go to your room. It is located near an overpass / highway, A little noisy but easy walk to Oviedo & Sante Fe malls. Other posters have noted most of the upmarket hotels are not chica friendly. Unfortunately, the good stuff is all spread out in MDE so one must UBER / taxi mostly. The Metro system is way cleaner and newer than US systems and also would make staying in Estadio doable.

I noticed that most Mileroticos ads don't have a face pic. Unfortunately I didn't try it on my virgin trip, but if I did I would have wanted a face pic before asking them to come. I assume you just add their WhatsApp and request a face pic or is there another method?

If you're returning to Medellin you're going to find transportation just a little more expensive.

The Metro, without a Civica card, is now 2400 cop, a 100 cop increase. At least one bus line has raised from 2000 to 2100 cop. Taxi meters begin at 3200 and minimum fare is 5400 (formerly 3000 and 5000 cop). The mileage rate has increased too. My normal cab ride home went from 6200 to 6900 cop.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2123958]If you're returning to Medellin you're going to find transportation just a little more expensive.

The Metro, without a Civica card, is now 2400 cop, a 100 cop increase. At least one bus line has raised from 2000 to 2100 cop. Taxi meters begin at 3200 and minimum fare is 5400 (formerly 3000 and 5000 cop). The mileage rate has increased too. My normal cab ride home went from 6200 to 6900 cop.[/QUOTE]"To our dear users we want to wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year, we also want to warn you that our rates will have an increase of 10,000 pesos as of December 15. ".

We stopped by Gusto on New Years Eve and I can confirm it was pretty dead, maybe 4-3 girls working, and a few other foreign girls unaware of the kind of place it was. I've been told one can expect this to be a quiet week in Medellin with many girls gone to Fincas for the week. I've tried FB prepaga forums, not having much luck on FB or Instagram just yet.

[QUOTE=VgsFun;2123679]Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?

Thanks,

Vgs.[/QUOTE]You should contact the individual hotel. Hotel Botero Medellin is chica friendly if you pay for a Doble (2 people) or a Doble Cama (2 people-2 beds).

El Mechanico.

Do Energy and Tantra require a reservation time in advance or can you just show up? Also, does one have much better girls than the other?

Thank you.

Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124100]Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Get away with paying? More like they were getting away with your momey. 2K too low? I was going to say that is too high!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2124104]Get away with paying? More like they were getting away with your momey. 2K too low? I was going to say that is too high![/QUOTE]From what I have read. 200 k is a few hours? Is that right?

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124100]Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Between 300 and 400 k is about right. I've always priced TLN at two hours. The other piece of advise given here is don't do it with someone you just met or someone you think won't want to stay. There's nothing like TLN with a crazy or someone who is bored out of their mind.

Botero Medellin doesn't enforce the double occupancy fee unless your date spends the night, and then only if it happens at least twice.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2124073]You should contact the individual hotel. Hotel Botero Medellin is chica friendly if you pay for a Doble (2 people) or a Doble Cama (2 people-2 beds).

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124109]From what I have read. 200 k is a few hours? Is that right?[/QUOTE]Yes but it also means unless you get a cool girl. One pop.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124100]Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.[/QUOTE]What to pay depends on whatever deal you can arrange within your budget. It's also going to vary depending on the time of the night. Just had a girl Saturday night tell me she wanted 400 k for TLN. It was already 3:30 am. When I told her no, her reply was, "well then I will only stay 1 hour." That got her another no.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2124135]Yes but it also means unless you get a cool girl. One pop.[/QUOTE]It has always been 2 pops or more for me. One pop is not worth it. Is this not the case?

I think 2 pops is a very reasonable demand for 200 K.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124143]It has always been 2 pops or more for me. One pop is not worth it. Is this not the case?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124109]From what I have read. 200 k is a few hours? Is that right?[/QUOTE]It's not right for most of the ladies who you would want to spend a few hours with. Many of the ladies in the higher ranks for looks and performance are now pretty firm on 200 K for one pop. I have heard some of the Mansion ladies are now asking for 200 K. I have stayed there one time, and none of the ladies I saw were in the higher ranks in looks.

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[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2124164]It's not right for most of the ladies who you would want to spend a few hours with. Many of the ladies in the higher ranks for looks and performance are now pretty firm on 200 K for one pop. I have heard some of the Mansion ladies are now asking for 200 K. I have stayed there one time, and none of the ladies I saw were in the higher ranks in looks.[/QUOTE]Last time I was at the Mansion I got 2 pops for 150 k. I really thought that was the norm. I know in Cali the Dr Amor casa is 2 pops for an hour with the highest price girl is 150 k If that is the norm in Medellin then it is not that big of a bargain now. Any other comments / experience in this from anyone?

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2124073]You should contact the individual hotel. Hotel Botero Medellin is chica friendly if you pay for a Doble (2 people) or a Doble Cama (2 people-2 beds).

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking yes it is. I have had about 20+ girls in and out of there, 3 a day sometimes (and only a couple of times did they ask for ID. Might have thought it was the same girl). But the night guy will sometimes try to hit you up for a 20 k "fee"(might have been 10 k) for it being a different girl that same day. I usually got out of it, told him to talk to the day clerk, that I rented a room for 2, etc.

However late at night they lock the front door and he has to come unlock it and let you in. That time I did give him the 20 k as I don't want him dragging his feet with that duty, me locked out at 2 am on a Centro back street. Fun.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124169]Last time I was at the Mansion I got 2 pops for 150 k. I really thought that was the norm. I know in Cali the Dr Amor casa is 2 pops for an hour with the highest price girl is 150 k If that is the norm in Medellin then it is not that big of a bargain now. Any other comments / experience in this from anyone?[/QUOTE]Depends where you shop.

2 pops with cute VeraCruz girl, 60 k (reg 30 k price x 2).

2 pops with lower end Casa chick 90 k+- (Yakuza 45 k for 1/2 HR x 2).

2 pops with hotter Centro strip club dancer 150-200 k (90 k +- x 2).

[QUOTE=VgsFun;2123679]Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?[/QUOTE]There is a trip report on another site in which is mentioned that some guys stayed at the Hotel Torre Poblado. They took ladies there every day and night, and there is no mention of extra fees or problems.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2124179]There is a trip report on another site in which is mentioned that some guys stayed at the Hotel Torre Poblado. They had ladies there every day and night, and there is no mention of extra fees or problems.[/QUOTE]I can confirm zero problems at Torre Poblado. Just loud as all hell on the weekends since its so close to parque lleras. Also the place was half renovated. Some of the rooms were shit. Others were alright.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2124169]Last time I was at the Mansion I got 2 pops for 150 k. I really thought that was the norm. I know in Cali the Dr Amor casa is 2 pops for an hour with the highest price girl is 150 k If that is the norm in Medellin then it is not that big of a bargain now. Any other comments / experience in this from anyone?[/QUOTE]Some guys swear up and down that the Casa Blanca girls are still taking 150 k without complaint. Other guys (myself included) are having a harder and harder time getting the girls to take 150 k without demanding taxi money coming and going, regalos, propinas or just straight up 200 K+.

Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.

Whatever it is breakfast time at the big table is always interesting when the subject comes up.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2124112]Between 300 and 400 k is about right. I've always priced TLN at two hours. The other piece of advise given here is don't do it with someone you just met or someone you think won't want to stay. There's nothing like TLN with a crazy or someone who is bored out of their mind.[/QUOTE]Bingo! But I've had two girls in Medellin who were both INCREDIBLE in bed and nuts. So I did TLNs with them for the carnal adventure but damn did I regret it in the morning. But then I went back for more, LOL!

[QUOTE=Lou32;2124188]
Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.
[/QUOTE]You think good looks gets you a lower price? You should see my ugly mug. I do hear from the prepagos that speaking Spanish helps. Its less boring for them if they are having a good time. Honestly, I don't want to get into a big discussion on how Spanish helps. If the chica isn't bored then it could help with pricing.

Something I should make clear about my posts. I just always offer 200 k and stick to it. I don't ask if they'll go for 150 k. The only exception is when its fixed price like at a casa. 200 k is still cheaper than 100 USD which is what these Colombians want when they're outside of Colombia. Seems like a fair price to me.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2124198]200 k is still cheaper than 100 USD which is what these Colombians want when they're outside of Colombia. Seems like a fair price to me.[/QUOTE]In Thailand Colombians want $150. And that is why I don't fuck Colombian hookers outside of Colombia. I met a Colombian chick at Tequila Rock in Lima. She told me $100. I said why would I pay you $100 here when I could go to Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8? She laughed and gave me a Hi 5.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2124198] ... I do hear from the prepagos that speaking Spanish helps. Its less boring for them if they are having a good time. Honestly, I don't want to get into a big discussion on how Spanish helps. If the chica isn't bored then it could help with pricing..[/QUOTE]Nothing to discuss, it's just obvious that it helps, greatly.

It's usually makes thing easier but I sometimes pretend to be able to speak when I want to avoid certain subjects.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2124216]Nothing to discuss, it's just obvious that it helps, greatly.[/QUOTE]

I'll be there on 2nd to the 12th let know if you want to meet up, its more fun when your with other people. PM.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2124198]You think good looks gets you a lower price? You should see my ugly mug. [/QUOTE]Don't let YKY fool you! He is like an athletic Greek God, except he is not Greek, he's not a God and he really didn't look that athletic when I met him in the CTG! YKY, this is only a joke! Happy New Year my friend. Our paths will cross again some day!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2124173]Generally speaking yes it is. I have had about 20+ girls in and out of there, 3 a day sometimes (and only a couple of times did they ask for ID. Might have thought it was the same girl). But the night guy will sometimes try to hit you up for a 20 k "fee"(might have been 10 k) for it being a different girl that same day. I usually got out of it, told him to talk to the day clerk, that I rented a room for 2, etc.

However late at night they lock the front door and he has to come unlock it and let you in. That time I did give him the 20 k as I don't want him dragging his feet with that duty, me locked out at 2 am on a Centro back street. Fun.[/QUOTE]I requested that they check the CEDULAS as I don't know enough about them to spot a fake. I would let Paola or Carolina know who was coming and at what time and ask them to check CEDULAS. 1/2 the girls still had their CEDULAS out when they came up to the room. Man I love the HBM! Thanks so much for the referral to that hotel & thanks for all the awesome Intel on El Centro. It made my stay a lot easier & I will be back!!

El Mechanico.

You also may want to ask the clerk to write down the name and number of the cedula in case of robbery or other troubles.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2124504]I requested that they check the CEDULAS as I don't know enough about them to spot a fake. I would let Paola or Carolina know who was coming and at what time and ask them to check CEDULAS. 1/2 the girls still had their CEDULAS out when they came up to the room. Man I love the HBM! Thanks so much for the referral to that hotel & thanks for all the awesome Intel on El Centro. It made my stay a lot easier & I will be back!!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lou32;2124188]Some guys swear up and down that the Casa Blanca girls are still taking 150 k without complaint. Other guys (myself included) are having a harder and harder time getting the girls to take 150 k without demanding taxi money coming and going, regalos, propinas or just straight up 200 K+.

Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.

Whatever it is breakfast time at the big table is always interesting when the subject comes up.[/QUOTE]I personally have never been quoted more than 150 k for short time at the Mansion. But I haven't been there in over a year.

I did have a tendency to do many of the same girls over and over again each time. Seems to me that some guys get grandfathered into a rate.

And the new guys get charged more. Because you aren't the first guy I have heard say that the mansion chicks want more than the standard 150 K.

Hi,

Would be very grateful if someone could recommend some love motels in Poblado, having trouble finding some, only found places in Centro so far.

Thanks!

I can confirm that there is a concerted movement towards asking $200 k. I got tired of it, and started offering 50 k for a straight up BJ, which offer was not accepted.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2124531]I personally have never been quoted more than 150 k for short time at the Mansion. But I haven't been there in over a year.

I did have a tendency to do many of the same girls over and over again each time. Seems to me that some guys get grandfathered into a rate.

And the new guys get charged more. Because you aren't the first guy I have heard say that the mansion chicks want more than the standard 150 K.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2124634]I can confirm that there is a concerted movement towards asking $200 k. I got tired of it, and started offering 50 k for a straight up BJ, which offer was not accepted.[/QUOTE]Yes after four slow days last week I am convinced the Mansion Mafia females are in collusion. Quotes of 250 and acceptance of 200 was the bottom line. 400 was for TLN. Amusing little things they are but there is a concentrated effort to up the price.

[QUOTE=ZumZum;2124589]Hi,

Would be very grateful if someone could recommend some love motels in Poblado, having trouble finding some, only found places in Centro so far.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Try Motel Las Cabañas.

Calle 14 #43 F-65.

No experience with it, but it's the only one I know of in Poblado.

There's also Motel Ibiza in Itagui, along the autopista. Most taxi drivers know it. It's expensive, about 100 k for 6 hours, but rooms are top notch.

For a cheaper route, there are a few very low end places in Mayorista on Carrera 50 A around Calle 81.16-17 k for 2 hours. Expect the bare minimum.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2124634]I can confirm that there is a concerted movement towards asking $200 k. I got tired of it, and started offering 50 k for a straight up BJ, which offer was not accepted.[/QUOTE]Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2124658]Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.[/QUOTE]Your math, and logic is good. The only question I have is if the exchange rate drops back to 1900 will the girls lower their rates?

To me when I'm in country I focus on the currency of that country. If I was happy with USA prices than I would stay home.

I promise to continue following your advice about staying away from the place, but not because I am unable to pay what it costs.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2124658]Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2124658]Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, [/QUOTE]Sure. Until the exchange rate swings back to 1600 to 1 USD and 200K is then a lousy 125 bucks.

Exact thing happened in Brazil. When the exchange rate was almost 4 to 1, 300 reais for $77 many guys did not mind paying. But when that shit fell to 1.52, all of a sudden that same 300 reais turned to $197.

There was no way I was going to Fase 2 when it was 1600 pesos to the USD, but when that shit went to 3000 pesos to the USD I went to check it out. If it falls back to 1600, then this cheap fuck will never see those portals again.

P.S. It is only costing you less under the assumption that the punter is arriving with USD or a currency that has gained over the CO Peso.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2124693]Sure. Until the exchange rate swings back to 1600 to 1 USD and 200K is then a lousy 125 bucks.

Exact thing happened in Brazil. When the exchange rate was almost 4 to 1, 300 reais for $77 many guys did not mind paying. But when that shit fell to 1.52, all of a sudden that same 300 reais turned to $197.

There was no way I was going to Fase 2 when it was 1600 pesos to the USD, but when that shit went to 3000 pesos to the USD I went to check it out. If it falls back to 1600, then this cheap fuck will never see those portals again.

P.S. It is only costing you less under the assumption that the punter is arriving with USD or a currency that has gained over the CO Peso.[/QUOTE]Of course Colombians working in Peru, Hong Kong, Panama, San Jose, Singapore, or Dubai or anywhere outside of Colombia want more than the ones that are a taxi / metro / bus ride to the mansion. They have fixed costs for delivering their product: lodging, air fare, meals, child care, visas / passports, implants, etc. It is an apples / oranges comparison, like comparing your next door neighbor who is a weekend warrior in the National Guard, and a full time Navy SEAL.

Now, let's look at what the local provider is going to do with your C150? Is she changing it into dollars? I think not. Did her cabfare get more expensive? Nope.

The dollar is stronger in Colombia, because US currency should really be called "OPEC exchange coupons" or "petrodollars. " It is the world reserve currency because OPEC sells its oil for US dollars. You want to buy OPEC oil, you got to change your Euros, Sheckels, Yen, Renmenbi, etc. Into dollars first. (And THAT is why the US arms and defends Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States and even the Syrians helped the US liberate Kuwait, and why the USA Reserve Bank can print up dollars like your local pizza shack prints up coupons.) Dollars are scarce in Colombia, because the USA Is buying less Colombian oil, so they are more valuable. But none of this really impacts chicas, because most of what they buy is made locally and not imported using USA Dollars.

Now, let us factor in the monger's fixed costs. When the exchange rate changed, did the monger's air fare become cheaper? No, the price of jet fuel went down, but air fares did not, since airlines contract their fuel purchases months/years ahead of time, and they are taking the opportunity to cover losses from the recession. Did lodging become cheaper at the mansion? Nope.

Someone mentioned inflation. There IS inflation at work behind the C150 to C200 creep, but is not that the cost of living in Colombia has gone drastically up. If anything, it has gone down, as the diversion of national resources to security have been reduced, thanks to the insurgency winding down. Goods and services can be transported around the country without risk of guerrilla ambushes on the highways, etc.

What has inflated is the number of gringos coming down there. As the country is perceived as more "safe", the more timid monger will come down. As the dollar gets stronger, the more cost conscious monger will come down. As more mongers come down, word-of-mouth advertising kicks in. More newbies, especially newbies with little mongering experience and who were easily impressed, meant more guys amenable to the C150 and the upsell to cab fare. They had no idea about the metro, or that the cab ride back to Bello did not cost C50, so the slide to C200 is a recent development.

I am not opposed to rewarding a provider for a memorable experience. I have been very generous to chicas when it has been warranted. However, I don't want to pay C200 for an experience I can have elsewhere for C75-100, and doing so will make the mansion chica consortium as unresponsive and complacent as the Detroit Department of Motor Vehicles Employees Union.

A few years ago, the mansion did not control the supply of providers. They came when they wanted to come. This led to an uneven mix of chicas / providers. Some nights, not enough chicas, while other nights, too many chicas, and they weren't even earning their cabfare. The management went to an invitation-only system where the providers needed either an invitation from management or the guests to get entry. Some chicas used to come to the mansion several times a week under the old system. Now, some wait weeks for a call from management or regulars.

I strongly agree with Mr.Enternational. When the exchange rate goes back to favoring the COP, we will be stuck with a new price point. Fewer mongers, especially the easily impressed, free spending newbie, will stop coming, we will be stuck with a new price point, and in the end, the chicas will suffer.

When the dollar bought more pesos, I didn't change my spending habits. I just came down to Colombia three, sometimes four, times a year instead of two times a year, or one time a year if went to San Jose. I didn't give my favorites more each time, but I did give them more opportunities to earn, and more opportunities for me to bring them a gift.

The last two posts are spot on. The USD / Peso exchange rate is irrelevant. If a chica were to even bring it up, I'd put her on ignore.

As Mr E alluded, guests at the Mansion (and mongers in general in MDE) are not solely from the US. I've met many Canadians and a few Europeans and Mexicans among my fellow guests. Do they get a discount since their currency has weakened against the Peso?

USD / COP 3000 and prices are the same.

Atoher way around, COP rises, there are no discount for us we mongers.

Princes stay in COP + inflation.

Being nice with high 18-25 prepagos, only leads to $$$ losses and quarrels and even maybe violence.

MDE Mongers MUST set a MAX price for services, and at which places.

I read prepagos own ads and they are lower than gringos pay!

+700,000 + transport for 48/55/60 hours a week for a month work, or just get kicked you by the owner who he in his turns have to pay to Las Bandas, La Policia.

We doesn't need about that internal magical civil war, murders, acid attacks.

Just make a list based on facts; New Life, Mileroticos, La mansion, Energy, etc.

If not accepted, go to another place, and after that go home a watch some porn.

I left a note to a hot MILF 2 years ago, and she did everything. Prices where like 50-100 COP, she was selling candy on Avenida 65. Time was never an issue, since she was tired in her legs, at my place she got a break for 2-3 hours.

Avoid teens from the barrios. The come high and will start a lot of fuzz and your neighbors will start babble and all that shit.

I love love to see to a Max pay list on the MDE forum.

Overpaying is understood as weakness. Not kindness or generosity.

Gents, fellow mongers,

True don't inflate the price it doesn't benefit anyone.

What is your opinion on Torre Hotel / serviced Apartments in EL Poblado. EL Mechanico. You seem to be from the school. Of hard knocks (Tough / Street Smart) Hotel Botero sounds a bit sketchy / crazy / scary.

P.S. Gents I will be in Medellin from 15th for a week. How can I meet up with you all Mongers in Medellin?

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2124524]You also may want to ask the clerk to write down the name and number of the cedula in case of robbery or other troubles.[/QUOTE]

The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.

I called both these hotels for what its worth. Trying to figure out where to stay in Poblado area.

Porton. When asked what was the hotel's policy on bringing in guests, the person on the phone immediately understood what I was asking for. He put me on hold for a minute and then came back. Suggesting that if it were "women" friends that I wanted to bring in who would stay only for a limited time period. They will charge $30. When I asked if it was $30/ per person or $30/ day. Interestingly he started to waiver. It was as if he was trying to create a policy on the fly. In other words. He was trying to say. We will allow it as long as we get something out of it.

Hampton. Talked to a woman on the phone and she understood my question right away as well. Her answer was actually very straight forward. They did not have an issue getting a short term friend, as long as I have requested their "permission", that is, notify them in advance who I am expecting and that they want the person to register at the desk.

Looks like I will be sticking to Hampton then. Will let you know my experience.

[QUOTE=SenatorDavis;2123812]Porton,

I believe, is the nicest girl friendly hotel in El Poblado. It clearly states on the card they give you at check in that you may and should register other guests that go to your room. It is located near an overpass / highway, A little noisy but easy walk to Oviedo & Sante Fe malls. Other posters have noted most of the upmarket hotels are not chica friendly. Unfortunately, the good stuff is all spread out in MDE so one must UBER / taxi mostly. The Metro system is way cleaner and newer than US systems and also would make staying in Estadio doable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lou32;2124789]The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.[/QUOTE]This sure isn't about get a life or affording another 17 lousy dollars. There is a much bigger picture as most have suggested. A 30% plus increase is crazy. The ones who will suffer the most are the girls at least until a new customer base is established.

Someone pointed out Brazil as an example and this is exactly what will happen in Medellin & the Mansion. It sure did in Brazil which is why I am searching new territory. The exchange will indeed clock back the other direction at some point.

Being new to Colombia I am learning the ropes but the significant price increase requested is a big red flag. Since I just discovered this place and would like to see it remain a similar environment that I read about I have a suggestion. The Mansion folks could set a limit especially since as I now understand an invite only.

Not all gringos are suckers or we would not be having this conversation.

I think the girls and the business owners figured out the sucker angle several years ago.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2124789]The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.[/QUOTE]

This is 2018, snap a picture of the cedula with your smartphone and go have some fun. When the girl sees that it will discourage her getting into mischief.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2124524]You also may want to ask the clerk to write down the name and number of the cedula in case of robbery or other troubles.[/QUOTE]

We mongers must look at the fact both the US dollar and the Colombian pesos are floating the market can change the price 100% over a year or 2.

The USD has been down to 1600-1700, for just then very very fast move up to over 3000!

Brainless prepagos does not have a clue of this.

Mongers willingness to pay, the club owners all get it. The looser is the monger.

Following IMF special artificial currency XDR with is a mix of current values of the biggest currencies like USD, YEN, Euro, GDP, you end up what real price is, not the days / weeks or months fluctuations.

[URL]http://www.xe.com/sv/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=25&From=XDR&To=COP[/URL]

Today 25 XDR are 100 COP. A good base to start from. Prices will become more stable and not just following the disastrous upward short / medium or long term trend.

And Gentlemen, is will be so much easier to compare not only MDE, Colombia, but their competitors Hotel del Rey, Venezuela (when and if ever get a normal currency), Brazil so have so much to offer. Maybe also Peru and Mexico. Argentina etc. Since the REAL came 1994 the sexindustry in Brazil towards tourists has fallen dramattically, Help closed 10 years ago for an example. Colombia started low even good looking and exotic girls 2002, but prices must be held back. Whereelse should we go? I don't like Asian girls at all; skinny, small breasts and no ass and 50% being Ladyboys.

[QUOTE=Pilot3592;2124648]Yes after four slow days last week I am convinced the Mansion Mafia females are in collusion. Quotes of 250 and acceptance of 200 was the bottom line. [/QUOTE]Led by Lunita no doubt! My goodness, I love that little Paisa, no matter how much of a ringleader she is!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=VgsFun;2124834]I called both these hotels for what its worth. Trying to figure out where to stay in Poblado area.

Porton. When asked what was the hotel's policy on bringing in guests, the person on the phone immediately understood what I was asking for. He put me on hold for a minute and then came back. Suggesting that if it were "women" friends that I wanted to bring in who would stay only for a limited time period. They will charge $30. When I asked if it was $30/ per person or $30/ day. Interestingly he started to waiver. It was as if he was trying to create a policy on the fly. In other words. He was trying to say. We will allow it as long as we get something out of it.

Hampton. Talked to a woman on the phone and she understood my question right away as well. Her answer was actually very straight forward. They did not have an issue getting a short term friend, as long as I have requested their "permission", that is, notify them in advance who I am expecting and that they want the person to register at the desk.

Looks like I will be sticking to Hampton then. Will let you know my experience.[/QUOTE]Seems to me that any large hotel chain is going to have a policy where are all guests and visitors must register with a valid ID.

If for nothing else to limit their liability if and when you get robbed, stabbed or drugged in your hotel room.

If after you have been robbed, bleed out or die from an overdose, there is a question as to how the woman gained access to your room and who she is then the hotel could be found liable.

Totally correct.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2124922]This is 2018, snap a picture of the cedula with your smartphone and go have some fun. When the girl sees that it will discourage her getting into mischief.[/QUOTE].

Come on. Now, let's be fair. No one suggested all gringos are suckers. I think the point was made about a certain group who pay well above market rates for accommodations that are well below market standards for access to a small group of women who are asking for 50% to 150% more than comparable providers are getting.

Ask the management to impose a price freeze that would cut into their kickbacks and other profits? I guess it doesn't cost anything to try. Good luck with that.

[QUOTE=Pilot3592;2124912]This sure isn't about get a life or affording another 17 lousy dollars. There is a much bigger picture as most have suggested. A 30% plus increase is crazy. The ones who will suffer the most are the girls at least until a new customer base is established.

Someone pointed out Brazil as an example and this is exactly what will happen in Medellin & the Mansion. It sure did in Brazil which is why I am searching new territory. The exchange will indeed clock back the other direction at some point.

Being new to Colombia I am learning the ropes but the significant price increase requested is a big red flag. Since I just discovered this place and would like to see it remain a similar environment that I read about I have a suggestion. The Mansion folks could set a limit especially since as I now understand an invite only.

Not all gringos are suckers or we would not be having this conversation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2124927]Whereelse should we go? I don't like Asian girls at all; skinny, small breasts and no ass and 50% being Ladyboys.[/QUOTE]Maybe you have been going to the wrong Asia! I have been living in Thailand for 8 years and what you say could not be farther from the truth.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2124932]Led by Lunita no doubt! My goodness, I love that little Paisa, no matter how much of a ringleader she is!!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Man, ALL the guys love Luna! I don't know what she does in the room but it must be fantastic!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2124693]

Exact thing happened in Brazil. When the exchange rate was almost 4 to 1, 300 reais for $77 many guys did not mind paying. But when that shit fell to 1.52, all of a sudden that same 300 reais turned to $197.
[/QUOTE]Interesting. I looked at the charts and in fact the USD to Brazilian Real was at 4 in January 2016. For what it's worth 1 Brazilian real right now is a little under 900 Colombian pesos. When I was in Sao Paolo I paid the garotas 200 reals (sometimes a little more). That's around 200 k Colombian pesos. With that said Sao Paolo was full of clip joints where you can end up spending a lot more (I'm looking at you Scandallo) but if you went to the reasonable brothels like Tangara and the Casarão nightclub you won't be spending that much.

Only problem I had in Sao Paolo is that there is literally fuck all to do during the day. Like FUCK all.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2125134]Interesting. I looked at the charts and in fact the USD to Brazilian Real was at 4 in January 2016. For what it's worth 1 Brazilian real right now is a little under 900 Colombian pesos. When I was in Sao Paolo I paid the garotas 200 reals (sometimes a little more). That's around 200 k Colombian pesos. With that said Sao Paolo was full of clip joints where you can end up spending a lot more (I'm looking at you Scandallo) but if you went to the reasonable brothels like Tangara and the Casaro nightclub you won't be spending that much.

Only problem I had in Sao Paolo is that there is literally fuck all to do during the day. Like FUCK all.[/QUOTE]A city of 20 million people and nothing to do? I'm going to say you weren't trying too hard.

With regard to the 4 to 1 exchange rate, I'm guessing Mr E is referring to 2001- 2004. The rate more than doubled in the hysteria over Lula's election, and us gringo mongers started treating the Real like play money. When the hysteria died down and the rate returned to where it was, everyone was griping about how expensive it had become.

I'm not saying the same thing will happen in Colombia, but exchange rates can move dramatically and very quickly. Maybe by then, Venezuela will be safer and we'll all move our hobbying next door.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2125134]Interesting. I looked at the charts and in fact the USD to Brazilian Real was at 4 in January 2016.[/QUOTE]The period that I was speaking about is when it was at a high in 2002 and when it dropped to the low in 2008.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2125134]Only problem I had in Sao Paolo is that there is literally fuck all to do during the day. Like FUCK all.[/QUOTE]Well, you obviously don't know São Paulo too well then.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2125098]Man, ALL the guys love Luna! I don't know what she does in the room but it must be fantastic![/QUOTE]IMHO, one if not the most beautiful girl I've ever been with. I'm talking about looks, not attitude. She certainly has a confident swag about her. Awesome body, perfect breast implants, tight little booty, etc. , etc. , etc. My prototype spinner body & looks.

El Mechanico.

Another visit last night, busy, most girls are voluptuous types with silicon, not my thing. Doing better with freelancers in other parts of the Parque Lleras and Tinder is good also (my Spanish is good). 150-200 K going rate on average. Haven't been to Fase 2 yet, on my list. Jesus Mio club looked like could be a lot of fun on the weekends, heard might be some freelancers there as well.

For meat lovers El Correro is excellent, and for Ceviche is peruvian Piqueo: both in Poblado / Provenza.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2125469]Another visit last night, busy, most girls are voluptuous types with silicon, not my thing.[/QUOTE]When I was there back in April they were 100% thin model types with a few exceptions. I prefer big butt big fat ole fake tits myself.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2125494]When I was there back in April they were 100% thin model types with a few exceptions. I prefer big butt big fat ole fake tits myself.[/QUOTE]I'll pop in on a weekend again it's only 15 K cover. You should have been there last night then).

Trendy Peruvian style in Provenza: La Causa.

All around excellent international cuisine in a stylish Provenza setting: Oci. Mde.

More casual Peruvian style with a youngish vibe in Provenza & Laureles: Mistura.

Bon apetit.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2125469]Another visit last night, busy, most girls are voluptuous types with silicon, not my thing. Doing better with freelancers in other parts of the Parque Lleras and Tinder is good also (my Spanish is good). 150-200 K going rate on average. Haven't been to Fase 2 yet, on my list. Jesus Mio club looked like could be a lot of fun on the weekends, heard might be some freelancers there as well.

For meat lovers El Correro is excellent, and for Ceviche is peruvian Piqueo: both in Poblado / Provenza.[/QUOTE]