Safe Sex

Faguotonio,

Like Bradman says its not anything unusual, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. However don’t ignore it, get the treatment form where ever you can: go online if you need to. The last thing you want to do it spread it…

Best wishes.

Regards,

Havanaman

I was asked to cross post this here:

A fellow forum-ee had asked how to find a FullText for the article:

ABSTRACT: A common bar soap and tap water solution was able to demonstrate a 30-fold human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) inactivation", (Virucidal Efficacy of Soap and Water against HIV in Genital Secretions, Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, Oct 2003, p. 3321-3322, Vol. 47, No. 10)

Any my reply was...

The article that Cube was looking for --

The abstract:
http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/47/10/3321

The article (PDF):
http://aac.asm.org/cgi/reprint/47/10/3321

The article (HTML):
http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/47/10/3321

To hit the highlights, the UnclePiercedAbstract (tm) says... The Ivory soap and water treatment seemed to show a 30 fold "inactivation" of the HIV virus. In fact, they used a weaker soap solution (1/1000) and a stronger soap solution (1/200) and the stronger one did noticably better.

For those of you wishing to show people up in the forum in the future, you can find an article to support damn near anything. Try searching Medline.

Medline:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/

I will cross post this in the AIDS forum.

Pierced

Member 1050,

Where did you buy Durec "Maximum", I have tried chemist today and durex web site but to no avail!

Pilok,

You can go to this web site and check it out http://www.ripnroll.com/DurexMaximum.htm . It costs $23.95 for 36 condoms. Also, Ebay has some really cheap prices for quality Durex condoms.

Pilok,

Do search in google for "durex maximum" , you will get many hits. I bought them at Rite-aid store. You can buy them on the web too.

This is from drugstore, I think they are reputable.

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp77266_333181_sespider/durex/maximum_lubricated_latex_condoms.htm

Keep costs low for everyone, use protection.

Gentlemen,

I remember when safe sex was a padded headboard.

“Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end…” {how wrong we were..} LOL.

Regards, Havanaman

I am curious to know which countries you think have the lowest STD rates. I have done a little research but it hasn't really been conclusive.

Inteller,

I for one have never looked into the subject at a serious level. However I can tell you that a number of my medical friends have commented on the increasing number of young females at G.U.M in France. I guess this may be pan-European, but I have no evidence of that.

If I had to make a selection, I would guess, and it is a total guess, that countries who frown on premarital sex would have low STD rates. So countries of the Arab gulf come to mind.

If you have looked into this please share your research: it will be much appreciated and useful to the whole forum.

Regards, Havanaman

There's a little work that's been done on this, but it's far from comprehensive as much as I can tell. No one is really collecting this data, it seems.

The WHO did a report a couple of years ago that broke things down by region, but that's the best thing I've ever been able to find. The most relevant numbers seem to be the estimated incidence and annual incidence of curable STDs by region, which basically includes only syphilis, gonorrhoea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis. Please note that the report does a lot of hemming and hawing about the unreliability of some of the data, so estimated incidence is just that.

That said, here's the breakdown:

North America -- 3 cases per 1000 people
Western Europe -- 4 cases per 1000 people
North Africa & Middle East -- 3.5 cases per 1000 people
Eastern Europe and Central Asia -- 6 cases per 1000 people
Sub Saharan Africa -- 32 cases per 1000 people
South and Southeast Asia -- 48 cases per 1000 people
East Asia and Pacific -- 6 cases per 1000 people
Australia and New Zealand -- 0.3 cases per 1000 people
Latin America & Caribbean -- 18.5 cases per 1000 people

I did find this comment in the report interesting: "In general, the prevalence of STIs tends to be higher in urban residents, in unmarried individuals, and in young adults. STIs tend to occur at a younger age in females than in males, which may be explained by differences in patterns of sexual activity and in the relative rates of transmission from one sex to the other. "

So to answer inteller's question, evidence indicates the safest places to monger in terms of STDs would be Oz and New Zealand.

Joe Zop,

Interesting figures. I appreciate that they are estimates but they do give food for thought. Will you please share the URL, I’m keen to learn more.

I’m very surprised about the figures for North America, Western Europe and North Africa & Middle East. I would have expected higher…

Regards, Havanaman

The figures are from a report called "Global Prevalence and Incidence of Selected Curable Sexually Transmitted Infections" which the WHO put out in 1999. I've been unable to find anything as comprehensive that's newer. I'd expect figures that included herpes and HIV would be rather higher.

The whole thing can be seen at [url] http://www.who.int/docstore/hiv/GRSTI/002.htm[/url].

One interesting thing I did come across during my searching for this stuff is a report (which I've yet to find the source) that claims that condom use results in a 50% reduction in the transmission of herpes. That's nice to know, even if it's still a worry.

A bit late maybe but for yeast infections (thrush) use Canastine anti fungal or thrush cream. It will be gone in a few days and its not uncomon even in (or more accuratly on) guys. I must get it 2 or 3 times a year!

http://www.census.gov/ipc/aidsdb/

Here is somewhere for you to begin. It gives HIV etc rates for hokers in a number of places like Vietnam: plenty of dark clouds. I guess this is a high risk game we play: something like eating pizzas out of a gutter.

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9710/15/herpes.increase/

This one seems to say there is lots of genital herpes in the good ol USA. It would be nice if we could know how many members here have a little extra.

BORED IN LB.

Go to plannedparenthood.com and look for the toll free number.
make an apointment to the clinic nearest to you, but be advised, you might have to wait a long time inside the clinic before seing the doctor.

I have a question for the esteemed members. Is it safe to have sex with lady who has tuberculosis. What are the risks of sexual contact, mouth to mouth contact.

Any precaustions to be taken. This lady is on treatment and is getting better but just want to be sure.

Appreciate any info.

Best regards

BD