Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=Cons68]Maybe we should order some tshirts... I also let them know that I am here for purely mercenary reasons. Sometimes (if their English is good enough) with some irony "I am here like you, because I like the weather and the hospitality of the locals."[/QUOTE]LOL. I used to tell them "I came for the waters … I was misinformed", but none understand the reference.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Bravo, you remember the snoring lady[/QUOTE]God, who could forget - I could hear her in the OTHER room.

[QUOTE=Krypto Knight]You made a lot of generalizations and stated them as fact and I would guess there are a number of members who would disagree with your stereotyping.[/QUOTE]I'll agree with Sporadic, we all have our OWN preferences. It was MK who said "It all comes down to what you are prepared to add to the relationship (because that is what it is)." If the interest isn't there, then I've found the girls to be very astute and "act" accordingly.

MYSELF, I'm really not willing to spend the time "winning over" a CIS girl; I'm not inclined to pull her in the 1st place. I'd much rather spend the time "opening up" (agreeing with BC) a PRC. But that's just my preferences.

Bottom line, I took MK's generalizations as personal experiences based on preferences.

[QUOTE=Disappointed]I have seen CIS girls shun men, who were clearly from the subcontinent at the Regal Plaza,yet at the same time entertain other Asian men dressed in suits or a bit smarter. So maybe dress nicely?[/QUOTE]I think there is a lot in this. Certainly a good Indian friend of mine encounters few problems, maybe the odd “go away” 1500 + AED quote, but we all get those from time to time, he simply moves on and usually makes an acceptable deal with one of his targets.

He almost always avoids the “discretionary” entrance charges. He exudes confidence, walks in like he owns the place, greets the doorman like a long lost friend and is witty and courteous when talking to the girls. He looks like he is going to spend money both on the girls, and at the bar.

It’s also true that certain nationalities have a reputation of treating the girls badly, again its generalisation and no disrespect intended, I am just reporting the girls perception.

Your attitude and demeanour can help overcome this, and if you treat a girl with respect the word will get around and you will find it easier and easier.

Some times what appears to be racial is Socio-economic prejudice. look at the attitude of some South Asian professionsals to their labouring compatriots.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Krypto, I think I know where you are coming from, but I did not take MK´s comments to be anti-anything.

He has a preference, and enjoys himself. What is the harm?

We are all generalizing here, all research being based upon chance encounters in the hobby.
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Sporadic if you look back at my posts you will see that I am a civil guy. It's something I really like about the Dubai forum.

My Kapitan made some comments about his experiences with PRC's as though this is what everyone's experience with PRC's will be, they are all the same, and this is what you are in for if you go with them.

He didn't say "I've had bad luck and only had mechanical fucks from PRC's". He said "if you want a mechanical fuck go for a PRC".

My experiences have been quite different, including having to constantly shove a pillow over their face to keep the screams down from the neighbors, passionate french kissing and long bareback blowjobs. I'm sorry MK hasn't had this same luck.

I have no problem with someone preferring one race of women over another, but he is making comments as though they are absolute...for instance "CIS have no problem giving BJ" yet I've had 2 this month refuse, even covered. As mentioned this has never happened to me with a PRC.

I would hate for new visitors to Dubai to read that post and think all of us here have such bad luck with PRC women. It does both the women and the punter a great disservice so I just wanted to set the record straight.

Based on his definitive stereotyping of PRC's I think my tone was more then civil. I want nothing more then the Dubai board to stay as civil as it always has. I appreciate your concern.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Krypto, I think I know where you are coming from, but I did not take MK´s comments to be anti-anything.
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By the way you made the above comment. So are you saying there is nothing "anti" PRC with the comment below?

[QUOTE=My Kapitan]Well said that man.
If you just want a no hassle mechanical fuck then a PRC will do. If you want a real woman go for a CIS.
MK[/QUOTE]

So a PRC isn't a "real woman". Maybe I am thin skinned but I find that comment highly offensive.

It's a broad, borderline racist stereotype. I have no problem him discussing it in terms of "his" experiences but he is making the statement as though it's an undisputed fact.

[QUOTE=Krypto Knight]Like they say, YMMV...so please don't assume others haven't had the same success with a race of women simply because you haven't.[/QUOTE]

Ouch!

However You seem to be assuming I have had no sucess with PRCs!
After 5 years in Dxb I have had plenty, if you doubt this just check out the photo thread, but IMHO CIS (or FSU) are the best again IMHO.

No offence intended to anyone or any race. Thin skinned - not me.
I am also sorry you had no luck getting a BJ from a CIS - your loss :)

YMMV. MK.

Hi guys,

I will be visiting Dubai for the second time later this month. I will be staying at the Ramee guestline near Imperial. Last time I visited the hotel did have a sign saying no guest allowed. Does anyone know if they actually mean it or is it a girl friendly hotel? Secondly is the entry to Imperial free or do they have an entry fee cause the last time I think I paid 50-75AED not sure. Are there any good places for girls in the surrounding area? And how much should I ideally pay for a short time? Could someone pm me with the details of how exactly shouldi go about the girl situation in Dubai one thing to remember is I have the car only between 8am to 8 pm so make sure the details are for places in the vicinity from ramee to ramada to that british pub in the same building as the sriLankan cafe and I'm really sorry I don't really remember the names of the places besides Imperial.

[quote=Krypto Knight]Like they say, YMMV, so please don't assume others haven't had the same success with a race of women simply because you haven't.[/quote]Ouch!

However You seem to be assuming I have had no sucess with PRCs!

After 5 years in Dxb I have had plenty, if you doubt this just check out the photo thread, but IMHO CIS (or FSU) are the best again IMHO.

No offence intended to anyone or any race. Thin skinned - not me.

I am also sorry you had no luck getting a BJ from a CIS - your loss

YMMV. MK.
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I was always of the opinion that CIS where some of the most willing providers of BJ's and quite often BBBJ, I have had some great experiances, including deep throating, and rough face fucking.

That being said I am a PRC lover and ocasional filo, so don't often sample the CIS delights. From my experiance PRC BJ skills can be very varied in quality, but one thing for sure, they are very willing and will always try harder.

Wow, seems I missed a lot of fighting when I was away, interesting that the africans managed to stay out of the discussion. For my tuppenceworth my preferences are:

PRC African CIS

I've had good and bad experiences with all nationalities but when you get down to it, a woman is a woman and a man is a man, how the interaction goes depends on both of you and the effort that you put in. Its also worth remembering tat our own cultural backgrounds may make it easier for us to interact with specific groups and get the most from them. I lived in Asia for a long time and enjoy the asian culture, I suspect that's why my own preference is PRC. Saying all that though, there are some girls that I believe are probably in the wrong job but then I could also say that about 50% of the professional people I know, especially here in DBX!

Let's all quit *****ing over who's best blah blah and just get on with our own form of fun and put up posting that should be useful to fellow mongers. Am I being naive?

Ok, so I know that this isn’t the Thailand or Pattaya board but I know that quite a few people do go to Pattaya from DBX and there are others who would like to go. This report is aimed at anyone wanting to go or wanting update information and all prices etc are quoted in AED. I was going to put up a diary of events but quite honestly it would have been boring along the lines of fucked here, bbbj there, go-go bar to visit etc so have abandoned that idea.

I spent 9 days in Pattaya (original planned 3 but kept extending!). There are many forms of entertainment for the professional monger and we will all have our own preference. Below is a list of options and my particular order of preference:

Beer bars – I found these to be best value and best fun. I started going regularly to the same beer bar and got to know the girls and the mama san well. I agreed a lady drink price of 9 AED which worked well. As I was there 7 days running playing pool and generally arsing around I was happy to buy the girls drinks which all adds to the fun. It was a win situation all round with the girls getting drinks, the bar getting money and me getting fun. I didn’t take a girl on the first two nights (I wanted to check out other opportunities first) at my particular bar but did on the third, by that time I knew them well and asked the mama san for a recommendation. The girl she told me to take blew my head away, we fucked every night for the next 5 nights averaging 7 times a night! In short, beer bars are fun but I think worth developing a regular haunt

BJ\Fuck bars – plenty of choice and some good girls but, for me, much more of a short time mentality, i.e. go in, choose girl, start drink, boom boom\bbbj, finish drink and go. There are some excellent girls to be found in these places but it can be a bit hit and miss. Expect to pay around 50 to 60AED for short time

Beach front – full of spinners and sinners so far as I could see. Much more fun late at night or early hours of the morning. I did pick up a few girls here, they are nice outside but I found them very short time mentality back in the room and didn’t enjoy the experience as much as the actual strolling up and down talking to them. Prices vary but start around 40AED upwards

Massage parlours – plenty around but women tend to be older and less pretty although there are some gems to be found. I only visited a couple during my time mainly for the massage element (some of them give a really decent massage) but nice to finish off with a handjob. Again, expect to pay around 50 to 60AED for one hour massage including the extra

Go-go bars – the best looking girls but not my scene really other than for the odd drink and perv hour. I found them over priced. I didn’t take a girl from any of the Go-go bars so not sure on the quality but they start of asking around 170AED for a short time…..no thanks 

Discos – this is where you can pick up freelancers, a bit like our own Rattler, York etc so same rules apply. Prices vary from 80AED to 150AED for all nighters.

Upmarket body massage parlour – expensive but fantastic experience and definitely worth doing at least once. Expect to pay around 200AED all in.

As I was on holiday and had allowed a decent budget of 550AED per day I didn’t negotiate too hard, I’m sure all of these prices could be cut back if you want to. As mentioned, I spent quite a lot in my chosen beer bar but I thought of it as an investment and it really paid off, they looked after me well and invited me to a couple of parties etc. When I took out the girl from the bar we did a proper night on a couple of occasions going to Kareoke (her choice), Muay Thai (my choice) and eating out a couple of times. I ended up paying her over the odds but for the things she did (bbbj, anal, CIM, ATM, french, greek, shaving, shower fuck etc) she was well worth it. See attached pic

Anyway, with Eid coming up some of you may be thinking of going to hope this helps. In the end I came back with a few thoughts:

1. If all the world were like Pattay there would be no wars, we would all be too busy fucking unbelievably good looking girls.

2. Do the guys who sell suits not understand we don't go there t buy suits, we go there to fuck, plain and simple. If you do buy a suit do they give you a special badge to stop them harrassing you?

3. Why do some Europeans go there on a family holiday with teenage daughters? Don't they realise that the place is full of pervs?

4. Why do guys who marry Thai girl and have kids take them back there on holiday? Do they think the girl wants reminded she was a pro and to teach jnr of his mommas background?

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[QUOTE=Krypto Knight]If you want a good laugh, go over to the Pattaya reports and read Zing UK, (famous on these boards), reports.

I'm heading there next week so I've been over there catching up.

He must be having a good time because he is posting the following...

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Originally Posted by Zing Uk

28th Oct - Arrived 9.30pm on Thurs 28th,
30th Oct – Good start so far, morning fuck in Soi 6
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According to my calender we are no where near Halloween... 8-][/QUOTE]Ok, so I fucked up the dates but that wasn't upmost in my mind at the time, getting the report finished quickly and going for bbbj was! :-)

[QUOTE=Bounce Around] Not having read much about Sub-continental or middle eastern WGs on this forum, can anybody offer some advice (places and prices)? I read a recent report by piper about having met one and at a reasonable rate[/QUOTE]If you mean Indian/Pakistani - no, I recently had an [i]Indianesque[/i] girl (ie she looked Indian due to her facial features, big black eyes, Bollywood-style make-up and dark-caramel skin, but she was actually from Belorus (which, ironically, means 'White Russia'). I still get PMs asking about the "Indian' girl. People must read too fast sometimes. I do have contacts of Indian girls, but I still haven't tried them. I simply prefer meeting a girl in person before deciding, rather than ordering an unknown by phone, or visiting a 'house'. (Please don't PM me for the contacts - they were given to me ages ago by a trusted and trusting member).
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As for 'which WG ethnicity is best', this topic regularly comes up every couple of months. We all have our own preferences. I prefer all types. Some nights I prefer CIS, some nights African and some nights Chinese. One night I'll try a mixed smorgasboard.:)

CIS girls often have a cool front until you break the ice, but they heat up quickly. PRC seem to keep the same moderate temperature, while African girls can go hot and cold. ;)

Would be nice to see more ice breakers (especially ones which can melt the CIS Arctic Ice) for the ladies. :)

[b]Eric[/b][QUOTE=11Bravo]LOL. I used to tell them "I came for the waters … I was misinformed", but none understand the reference.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Cons68]Maybe we should order some tshirts... I also let them know that I am here for purely mercenary reasons. Sometimes (if their English is good enough) with some irony "I am here like you, because I like the weather and the hospitality of the locals."
They usually appreciate it.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=11Bravo]When she asks me if I like dxb (question #5 of the standard litany), it's "Same same everybody, come dubai, make money, GO HOME."[/QUOTE]

My favorite Ice-Breaker is to stare the girl in the eye with a serious look on my face, and after a moment's silence, the first words she hears from me are "My god I love you!" After a moment of confusion they always have a good laugh. Later, when they quote a high price, I say with a frown "I love you, but I don't love you [i]that[/i] much."

[QUOTE=Jetjo776]... so I cut her loose early and gave her the full nights fare. 600+100 for cab. Seemed fair.[/quote]Sounds reasonable to me. I have no trouble paying full fare when the early departure is for my convenience.

[QUOTE=Jetjo776]... but won’t be on my “Gold Members” list that I’m working on for when I live here. [/quote]Nice phrase.

[QUOTE=Jetjo776]Going to be strange living here!![/quote]Not really; it's nice when you can relax and enjoy, passing when you can't find someone who you are really interested in as there is always tomorrow. Plus, time to develop some relationships with those Gold Members...

Now if you can do anything about the MSRP in all the stores, the lack of warranties, and shoddy service... Never forget when I was asking about microwave ovens, and the "salesman" started reading THE ENGLISH off of the boxes...

Nice report, and will be nice to have a fresh set of eyes on the scene...

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]... then decided to take a look at ISG. WTF? I could not access ISG! SOB. What is going on? I kept getting a message about the site conflicting with the religious or political beliefs of the country. So I questioned the owner and he told me not to blame him, but blame the server and the government instead. Why did I not know this beforehand?[/quote]Well known fact, mentioned here a number of times. Look on the bright side: THESE days, internet cafes PLENTIFUL. Back when, few and far between.

Anyone coming here needs to take steps to ensure themselves access BEFORE arriving - govt not only blocks access to isg, but TRIES to block DIRECT access to the workarounds. Threads here to explain how:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2188[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=101[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-proxyservers.php[/url]

A number of proxy servers are blocked here (as soon as they find them).

Tor is VERY popular, and, as mentioned, versions of it can be installed on portable flash drives.

Other methods, once here, but easiest to take steps before arriving.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Chalk it up to being a Dubai virgin.[/quote]I think at immigration they spray you with a certain scent so that you are easily selected for "excess cash extraction" by the residents. :) After about 3 days, it wears off.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]As many times as I have read in the forum about their aggressiveness nothing could have prepared me for this.[/quote]LOL, bringing back "unfond" memories. I just wonder if the strategy EVER works?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Somehow we started chatting with a gentleman who said he was from Ireland but had been living in Dubai for seven years. He seemed to know his stuff ... He said that he would take us to the Imperial (5 AED taxi on him) ... if we would buy him a drink when we arrived. [/quote]I swear, it's a spray at immigration... Have to be careful of that "free" advice.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]He seemed to know his stuff[/quote]
[i]Rattlesnake: No. It’s simply a bar and it’s 40km away.[/i] Probably the best place NOW for a MIXED menu selection, PRC's and Africans being the main, with some CIS and -Stanis thrown in.

Like any big city, forget distance - think time. 10-12 minutes, 15 dhs.

[i]Jockey: No. Waste of time. Another bar. Many Russians.[/i]
While Jockeys can be hit/miss, it was improved the last time I was there, and certainly early on, you can find some gems before they depart for their real [i]office[/i]. Post Ramadan, late afternoon, can be fun.

[i]Regal: Really expensive. Not recommended.[/i]
I'm certainly NOT a fan, but it all depends on your budget and your target...

[i]Ascot: Don’t even think about it.[/i]
Now here, I agree.

[i]Imperial: Now you are talking. It is only a couple of minutes away and the fish will be biting around closing.[/i]
While some gems can be found, Imperial is, at least in my book, pretty downmarket (well, it does beat TGIT). As I posted, quantity not quality.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]...to get them to 200 AED. So in our minds that transferred to 150 for us![/quote]Does anyone bargain in 50 dhs increments anymore?

Looking forward to the next installment.

[QUOTE=Eric T]Would be nice to see more ice breakers (especially ones which can melt the CIS Arctic Ice) for the ladies.[/QUOTE]This line seems to work for SOME: "Hey, baby, 1500, ST?" :)

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I remembered that I also needed to check ISG in order to see if Groin Strain had returned my PM about the cheap spots in Al Baraha.[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't respond but I couldn't believe anyone would seriously want to go with any of the girls on the streets in Al Baraha. If you got to the Astoria hotel on your travels just imagine the ugliest girl in Sancho panza's or whatever it is called and deduct 3 points and that is how rough the street girls look.

However each to their own so I have now PMd you the directions.