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[QUOTE=Showdown; 1553297]This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Duh! Ya think? Ok, now you have gotten all this great advice, now take it! Next report will be on how you banged a chica hard, gave her a facial and walked away.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1553330]All you are doing is perpetuating the myth, stereotype, fantasy, fairy tale that all you have to do is find a foreign guy with a good heart and he will solve all of your and your family's problems because he has money that never ends.[/QUOTE]Even though Enternational and I do not see eye to eye on matters of payment, I agree with him in this case. On the other hand, I salute Showdown to 'fess up this openly. I do not know of many on the forum to have the balls to do that.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1553297]My goodness. Sent $100 yesterday for food. Then she called today and said she needed $1500 pesos to go see her mom tomorrow (in a taxi about an hour or so away). I asked her why doesn't she use the $100 I sent. She said all of it was gone. Yet I never saw her spend $100 dollars in food in one setting before.
This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Showdown, one more piece of advice for you. In case you are going to run from this girl, be strong, because once she will realize that her mealticket is gone she will put on a show which could last for several days or weeks. She will call you like crazy, text you, start crying, telling you all the sweet things, mi amor te amo, mi vida te quiero, mi cielo me haces falta... Do not fall for this bullshit, some of these girls could be award winning actresses.
I think Gogo and Enternational used the data plan as offered by T-mobile now. My f. G phone did not work. I could see the bars (but no local carrier's name. Like claro or orange) but that is all, I never could connect. I took my phone to a Claro place the day after and they fiddled with it (including manually looking for the carrier) but came up with nothing. In the end, I bought a separated sim card with a data plan from claro for 600 pesos+100 pesos for the chip. 1 GB of data which I had no use for (validity one month for my week long trip). It was such a waste of time.
Once back in the US, I called T-mobile but other than telling me that my "roaming" has to be on, I did not hear anything specific that would allow me to understand why the phone / data plan of tmobile did not pan out for me.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Berthold;1553625]Showdown, one more piece of advice for you. In case you are going to run from this girl, be strong, because once she will realize that her mealticket is gone she will put on a show which could last for several days or weeks. She will call you like crazy, text you, start crying, telling you all the sweet things, mi amor te amo, mi vida te quiero, mi cielo me haces falta. Do not fall for this bullshit, some of these girls could be award winning actresses.[/QUOTE]Aint that the fucking TRUTH!
[QUOTE=Showdown;1552823]Fast forward to today. I have a gf in Santo Domingo. I like having a gf but I want my P4P also.[/quote]She aint your GF, she is just a chick who is with you for benefits.
[quote]Nevertheless I got her a house in Santo Domingo (rented for 7k pesos) after seeing and visiting her in that wretched apartment she was living in. Where the house is now it always has electricity and I bought her the water tank for the top of the house so she always has water. Got her a new fridge (the one she had before-and this is funny-it had no hinges on it and each time she opened it she had to use tape to close it back). Got her cable. Send her money for food. She is set.[/quote]And just what did this woman do to earn all of this? You got the shit assbackwards. Ya supposed to earn a residence, a water tank, a fridge, cable and food. This woman didn't do anything to earn these things. Your standards are very low when it comes to bestowing unearned benefits to unappreciative and non reciprocal people.
[quote]She's a "good girl". Met her through Tagged, she goes to church alot, sexy as hell and is very cautious (initially) about asking for money. Never had a problem out of her.[/quote]Met her through tagged, big deal. She gets no points for that. Goes to church a lot? Seriously? She gets no points for that. Many hypocrites go to church, especially because they are so fucked up they know they need religion in their lives to make up for the dirt they are doing. She's sexy as hell? She gets no points for that. Initially very cautious about asking for money? That was just to make an impression with you. She is an actress. Well she aint cautious anymore. Now she is a full fledged opportunist. Never had a problem out of her? That was then, this is now. Now you have a big problem with her. Don't you realize you are just rationalizing and making excuses for this woman with statements like that?
[quote]Now the problem is she knows if she ask for money she will get it. For example she recently asked for money for food. Ok I sent her 4k pesos. That night when I talked to her via Skype she pointed out the day before she had bought new paintings. Paintings? You don't have food and you bought paintings?
I had told her she was responsible for paying the internet and the electricity. I did this to give her a sense of responsibility. She has never payed either because she never has the money despite the fact that every time I visit there is something new (and irrelevant) she has purchased.[/QUOTE]She is playing the long game with you and very well. And got several convenient smoke screens in place to lull your ass to sleep. She works in a salon. Goes to church. So you use that to feel like you got a good girl that you didn't find hustling pussy somewhere. Then she has her poor circumstances for you to see and act on so you willingly choose to be a Cap' n Sav a Ho without her having to convince you to assume that role. She is irresponsible with money. Fails to pay the expenses she claims the money is for. She may even be lying about some of those expenses. Face it dude. She is a liar, and can't be trusted.
[quote]And what has she bought me in the year I have been with her? 2 shirts.[/quote]And in her mind why should she buy you anything? You are an over flowing resource who has yet to be fully exploited to the max. You have shown an addiction to her , where having to buy you shit is totally un necessary. Especially since you have demonstrated and reinforced that benefits only flow one way. From you to her.
[quote]Now her family, who I have grown to dislike, realizes that the rich gringo is around so they are always asking her to ask me to buy things for them. In addition when I leave they all show up to use or eat or drink whatever I have brought her from the States. Now that she has cable they all show up to watch tv. Her dad, who I bought a phone for, will not travel the 10 minutes by motorbike to say hello to me when I am in town yet when I leave he shows up the next day to watch cable.[/quote]Her and her family have that dreaded disease called YOUGOTITLIKETHAT-ITIS. Because you have shown that you got it like that, they think it is nothing for you to do what you are doing. Think about it! You are in another country and you are paying rent in a place you don't even live in. Buying appliances, food and god knows what. They aint worried about your feelings. They don't have any clue if being appreciated is important to you. As soon as a need or want is expressed, there you are "handling" the request promptly. You can't ask someone to appreciate you. Either they do or they don't. You can't shame anyone either. Either they naturally appreciate you or they don't. If the chick feigns appreciation and remorse and starts begging for you not to leave, claiming to do better, she aint nothing more than a sexy as hell, church going, salon working, money grubbing bullshit artist.
[quote]My girl works in a hair salon and I know for example she had about 10 clients this past weekend. Yet she called me today asking for more money for food.[/quote]Whens the last time you saw the skeleton of a dead dominicana holding her iphone laying around in the gutter because they were refused money? I haven't seen it, and I doubt she will rot and die if you stopped sending money.
[quote]I am now trying to get out of this situation with the girl I am with now because I am tired of sending money let alone the airplane tickets and taxis in addition to the money I spend when I am there. No matter what morally I am on the hook for a year to pay the rent because I moved her out of her hell hole into a house. Still trying to figure out how to let this girl go because she does love me a great deal.[/QUOTE]No you arent. You aint trying. You are like a person who has lent money to someone, and the person hasnt paid back the money. That person asks for another loan, and you think if you don't give more money or benefits you will lose all of what you have invested in getting back what you think you'll lose.
But even shrewd investers have to know when to stop the bleeding, cut their losses and bail. You have already lost your self respect. Which should be extremely valuable. But it is at the lowest priority in your life. You are only cutting the surface in recognizing how deep your issues are in regards to this woman. And that line of being morally obligated to pay the rent, that is some straight up BS right there. Man you need to play your game. If you lost your job, or had no means of getting any money, what in the world do you think that chick will be forced to do about that apartment? Pay the rent or get the fuck up out of there.
Like I said, play your game. Lie your fucking ass off right in her face the same way she is doing you. She tells you to your face she mismanaged your money, and you tolerate that shit. If you do not have a lease, then walk away. Tell her I can't afford to pay the rent. Remember, many here have reported, that once "their girl" was convinced the money is gone, or the well is dry, you won't have to leave them, they will leave your ass. But for you, to regain some semblance of dignity, it would be much more powerful and self fulfilling if you leave her and that situation. Trust she'll be back on social media in a flash looking for another dude to milk who is blinded by the same things you were. What are you afraid of? Her confronting you? Her rejecting you? Her being disappointed because you choose to stop being used? Think you are coming off looking weak acting like you cant afford to pay, knowing full well that money is no problem for you? Do you feel responsible for her if she gets put out? Addicted to her juice? What is it, really preventing you from just making a bold move?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1553648]I think Gogo and Enternational used the data plan as offered by T-mobile now. My f. G phone did not work. I could see the bars (but no local carrier's name. Like claro or orange) but that is all, I never could connect. I took my phone to a Claro place the day after and they fiddled with it (including manually looking for the carrier) but came up with nothing. In the end, I bought a separated sim card with a data plan from claro for 600 pesos+100 pesos for the chip. 1 GB of data which I had no use for (validity one month for my week long trip). It was such a waste of time.
Once back in the US, I called T-mobile but other than telling me that my "roaming" has to be on, I did not hear anything specific that would allow me to understand why the phone / data plan of tmobile did not pan out for me.
Any thoughts?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I don't know man. First you have to have the simple choice plan. Then just turn your phone off before you land and then turn it back on when you land. You should receive a text message like the one in the picture. Then you just start using it.
[QUOTE=Berthold;1553625]Showdown, one more piece of advice for you. In case you are going to run from this girl, be strong, because once she will realize that her mealticket is gone she will put on a show which could last for several days or weeks. She will call you like crazy, text you, start crying, telling you all the sweet things, mi amor te amo, mi vida te quiero, mi cielo me haces falta. Do not fall for this bullshit, some of these girls could be award winning actresses.[/QUOTE]You have to be certain that you want to end it, then it may be hard if you care for her and her kids. If you decide to make the break, it may be best to change your phone numbers and e-mail and block any way she has to contact.
You. Tough situation.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1553690]She aint your GF, she is just a chick who is with you for benefits.
And just what did this woman do to earn all of this? You got the shit assbackwards. Ya supposed to earn a residence, a water tank, a fridge, cable and food. This woman didn't do anything to earn these things. Your standards are very low when it comes to bestowing unearned benefits to unappreciative and non reciprocal people.
Met her through tagged, big deal. She gets no points for that. Goes to church a lot? Seriously? She gets no points for that. Many hypocrites go to church, especially because they are so fucked up they know they need religion in their lives to make up for the dirt they are doing. She's sexy as hell? She gets no points for that. Initially very cautious about asking for money? That was just to make an impression with you. She is an actress. Well she aint cautious anymore. Now she is a full fledged opportunist. Never had a problem out of her? That was then, this is now. Now you have a big problem with her. Don't you realize you are just rationalizing and making excuses for this woman with statements like that?
She is playing the long game with you and very well. And got several convenient smoke screens in place to lull your ass to sleep. She works in a salon. Goes to church. So you use that to feel like you got a good girl that you didn't find hustling pussy somewhere. Then she has her poor circumstances for you to see and act on so you willingly choose to be a Cap' and Sav a Ho without her having to convince you to assume that role. She is irresponsible with money. Fails to pay the expenses she claims the money is for. She may even be lying about some of those expenses. Face it dude. She is a liar, and can't be trusted.
And in her mind why should she buy you anything? You are an over flowing resource who has yet to be fully exploited to the max. You have shown an addiction to her, where having to buy you shit is totally un necessary. Especially since you have demonstrated and reinforced that benefits only flow one way. From you to her.
Her and her family have that dreaded disease called YOUGOTITLIKETHAT-ITIS. Because you have shown that you got it like that, they think it is nothing for you to do what you are doing. Think about it! You are in another country and you are paying rent in a place you don't even live in. Buying appliances, food and god knows what. They aint worried about your feelings. They don't have any clue if being appreciated is important to you. As soon as a need or want is expressed, there you are "handling" the request promptly. You can't ask someone to appreciate you. Either they do or they don't. You can't shame anyone either. Either they naturally appreciate you or they don't. If the chick feigns appreciation and remorse and starts begging for you not to leave, claiming to do better, she aint nothing more than a sexy as hell, church going, salon working, money grubbing bullshit artist.
Whens the last time you saw the skeleton of a dead dominicana holding her iphone laying around in the gutter because they were refused money? I haven't seen it, and I doubt she will rot and die if you stopped sending money.
No you arent. You aint trying. You are like a person who has lent money to someone, and the person hasnt paid back the money. That person asks for another loan, and you think if you don't give more money or benefits you will lose all of what you have invested in getting back what you think you'll lose.
But even shrewd investers have to know when to stop the bleeding, cut their losses and bail. You have already lost your self respect. Which should be extremely valuable. But it is at the lowest priority in your life. You are only cutting the surface in recognizing how deep your issues are in regards to this woman. And that line of being morally obligated to pay the rent, that is some straight up BS right there. Man you need to play your game. If you lost your job, or had no means of getting any money, what in the world do you think that chick will be forced to do about that apartment? Pay the rent or get the fuck up out of there.
Like I said, play your game. Lie your fucking ass off right in her face the same way she is doing you. She tells you to your face she mismanaged your money, and you tolerate that shit. If you do not have a lease, then walk away. Tell her I can't afford to pay the rent. Remember, many here have reported, that once "their girl" was convinced the money is gone, or the well is dry, you won't have to leave them, they will leave your ass. But for you, to regain some semblance of dignity, it would be much more powerful and self fulfilling if you leave her and that situation. Trust she'll be back on social media in a flash looking for another dude to milk who is blinded by the same things you were. What are you afraid of? Her confronting you? Her rejecting you? Her being disappointed because you choose to stop being used? Think you are coming off looking weak acting like you can't afford to pay, knowing full well that money is no problem for you? Do you feel responsible for her if she gets put out? Addicted to her juice? What is it, really preventing you from just making a bold move?[/QUOTE]WRX my brother you are 10000000000 percent on point. God bless you
[QUOTE=TeamHorny;1553864]WRX my brother you are 10000000000 percent on point. God bless you[/QUOTE]WRX I also have to chime in and say that was a truly excellent post. Very well done!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1553728]I don't know man. First you have to have the simple choice plan. Then just turn your phone off before you land and then turn it back on when you land. You should receive a text message like the one in the picture. Then you just start using it.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much.
I am really confounded. The t-mobile guys here have no clue, no one told me about this message from 156. I have the simple choice plan since Oct / Nov of 2013 but I never got this message from T-mobile (and I did turn off the phone and turned it back on, as the usual routine of rebooting when something does not work). My son just went to the DR with his classmates and teachers (managed by some social service organization) and I wanted him to be able to use the phone for texting. I told him to try it out but also gave him the claro chip just in case.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=TeamHorny;1553864]WRX my brother you are 10000000000 percent on point. God bless you[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Qualude;1553882]WRX I also have to chime in and say that was a truly excellent post. Very well done![/QUOTE]Thanks for acknowledging. But I just hope we all inspire our mongering brother (and others in the same mode) to rise above situations like this.
Brother [b]Showdown[/b], if you have not seen this sermon by Cuba Dave on "Big Papi" vs. "Pocket Change", please stop whatever you are doing and do so NOW! He his specifically talking about guys meeting chicks in Sosua (I know you met your chica online), but the same principles apply. There is nothing he is saying here that does not touch on your current situation:
Cuba Dave: [i]"I get hundreds of emails from guys asking that same question, and it usually starts out with: "Dave, my girl's different."[/i]
[b]Cubadave: "Big Papi" vs. "Pocket Change"[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E[/url]
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552907]First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.
This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.
As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.
Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.
Showdown[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1541179&viewfull=1#post1541179[/url]
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1554099][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1541179&viewfull=1#post1541179[/url][/QUOTE]I like your prospective bro. I think you could apply this anywhere in the world where p4p is present though; not just the DR. It had me thinking about Colombia as well: Colombians know that are some of the most beautiful people in the world, and Colombian women are not going to stop having babies with the local suavecitos because they want beautiful offspring. None of them are looking for gringos to come whisk them away to America because their emotional support system (familia) is in Colombia. They are also very proud of their country.
They would no doubt enjoy the money and gifts gringos wish to bestow upon them, which in turn gains you access to them. But once you are gone, they are back in the arms of their Colombian novios. In fact, if you are putting her up in a place and paying her rent, don't fool yourself in thinking the Colombian (or Dominican) novio isn't in there enjoying the cable tv, food, and hot water that you are providing your "novia" from the money you are sending via Western Union. She probably tells him to keep his mouth shut while she is Skyping with you, or shoos him away when you are coming to town, but don't buy that "yo vivo solo" bullshit for one minute Jack.