[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1978764]After 40 the formula is half your age plus 7![/QUOTE]I have always gone by half my age plus 3. At least for a serious live-in girlfriend.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1978764]After 40 the formula is half your age plus 7![/QUOTE]I have always gone by half my age plus 3. At least for a serious live-in girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Member#2041;1978816]If the formula was designed to deliver me a wife or long term GF of the optimum age, I would expect it to spit out the null set for me.
BTW, Syzygies, I agree with you that P4P sex becomes a habit, I simply disagree with the assessment that it's a BAD habit. So long as one's budget is not being taxed, I think it's a WONDERFUL habit. (It helps that I live a short drive to Tijuana, and that the Mexican Peso is now over 20-1) So now I can get properly laid 3-4 times a week by young hot girls for less money than most folks spend on groceries, all in inclusive of travel expenses. I'm spending under $100 US a week on my habit at current exchange rates.[/QUOTE]Not so bad if you have no GF. Its having a GF that is the real BAD habit. That costs me significantly more.
My proverb for the New Year:
"Meu tham ruay, khuay tham jon". The hand makes us rich, the dick makes us poor.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1978764].
I think Thai gals hit there "dress sexy" peak about 3 or 4 years ago. Since the coup dress has become more and more conservative. I wish they would dress a bit more sexy. Now, some of the Chinese tourist gals are really wearing short shorts et al.[/QUOTE]I always thought Asian girls do dress sexy or, let's say, more revealing clothes.
Mini skiers, short pants, nice make up, well kept finger nails, sexy shoes, high heels. A pleasure for the eyes.
I always joke that on BTS at 7 pm it is sometime difficult to discriminate an office girl going back home from a bar girl going to her "office".
[QUOTE=Member#2041;1978816]If the formula was designed to deliver me a wife or long term GF of the optimum age, I would expect it to spit out the null set for me.
BTW, Syzygies, I agree with you that P4P sex becomes a habit, I simply disagree with the assessment that it's a BAD habit. So long as one's budget is not being taxed, I think it's a WONDERFUL habit. (It helps that I live a short drive to Tijuana, and that the Mexican Peso is now over 20-1) So now I can get properly laid 3-4 times a week by young hot girls for less money than most folks spend on groceries, all in inclusive of travel expenses. I'm spending under $100 US a week on my habit at current exchange rates.[/QUOTE]And you live in a part of the world with perfect weather!
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1978842]I always thought Asian girls do dress sexy or, let's say, more revealing clothes.
Mini skiers, short pants, nice make up, well kept finger nails, sexy shoes, high heels. A pleasure for the eyes.
I always joke that on BTS at 7 pm it is sometime difficult to discriminate an office girl going back home from a bar girl going to her "office".[/QUOTE]Thai Uni gals used to wear very tight short skirts and tight tops to show off what little they might have up top. Now they are all wearing longer, looser, and less revealing ones. I would say office dress has become far more conservative as well. Far fewer short tight skirts these days. Thailand is regressing when it comes to women feeling free to express themselves sexually. And the women are going right along with this trend.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1978812]Absolutely right on comment. When I was really young, never got the opportunity to have wild sex with hot young girls, also GF and wife never lived up to expectations. Never had the experience and training to select a woman compatible. After escape from the wife from hell, comes the desire to find out what hot young sexy girls were like. Cravings for intimacy, even if illusion, previously so lacking for years. Then becomes a bad habit / hobby but fun.[/QUOTE]When I was young I had my fill. All my GFs and lovers (from when I was 15 on) were all good looking, well built, skilled, and most were hornier than me. So for me Asia is all about variety. I never had a craving for intimacy, just sex. Intimacy kind of ruins it for me.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1978802]Ha Ha. Very good. I don't see why it doesn't work from the age of 30. That would be 30 YO with 22 YO girl. Somewhat okay If girl is not a silly type, remembering that the guy may be immature at 30. LOL.
At 36, I was indeed interested in 25 YO girls approx.
We could say from age 22, since that gives an 18 YO girl.[/QUOTE]Guess it could work from 30!
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1978842]I always thought Asian girls do dress sexy or, let's say, more revealing clothes.
Mini skiers, short pants, nice make up, well kept finger nails, sexy shoes, high heels. A pleasure for the eyes.
I always joke that on BTS at 7 pm it is sometime difficult to discriminate an office girl going back home from a bar girl going to her "office".[/QUOTE]Mini skirts?
In the modern day, I see that Asian girls on street, I can't be sure if Thai or not, are wearing much more figure revealing stuff than 25 years ago. Ass hugging tights showing ass shape very clearly, tops showing significant cleavage etc. Years ago normal girls felt too exposed to have bare shoulders.
Can't comment on Goat's Uni girls' changes. I thought they would be wearing a Uniform. I don't know if currently it is mostly very tight or loose.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1978890]Mini skirts?
In the modern day, I see that Asian girls on street, I can't be sure if Thai or not, are wearing much more figure revealing stuff than 25 years ago. Ass hugging tights showing ass shape very clearly, tops showing significant cleavage etc. Years ago normal girls felt too exposed to have bare shoulders.
Can't comment on Goat's Uni girls' changes. I thought they would be wearing a Uniform. I don't know if currently it is mostly very tight or loose.[/QUOTE]They always wear uniforms. Used to be tight and sexy like in your second pic. Now not so much.
Is anyone getting laid by Tinder girls besides the obvious hookers and ladyboys?
So far I am meeting fat chicks, bad pics and wasting allot of baht!
Any counsel? Missing the Philippines that's for sure.
PP.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1977954]Guys, the ladies from the cart bars work down this alley now. The bars are small and line either side of this alley. At night there are a few ladies sitting in the front. Ignore them and walk down and you will see about 6 bars, 3 on each side. Each bar will have just one small area. They are not actual cart bars anymore. Physical small bars. I found out about the new location from the ladies at one of the cart bars I kept in touch with.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying. It makes a quite a difference to hear that the cart bar girls have relocated without their characteristic carts. I have walked the alleyways running parallel to the left and the right of the maroon bar (to the left of Lek massage shop) in the pic. As best as I can see, the beer bars or pool bars that may have absorbed the cart bar girls do not have any of the nomenclature of the former cart bars. I didn't see any bars named as "P Bunnies Bar" or "Easy Bar", so unless you know the cart bar staff by sight, you will be just looking at what is available in Queen's Plaza. Having done a couple rounds, I did not see my favorite cart bar girl (who had disappeared up country just after the king's death and has been unresponsive on LINE), so I decided to call it a night. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1978570]Sorry, not in the US, to my knowledge. Then again, I have been only mongering for close to 20 years, and I have been in many parts of the world. GFE reads as Girl Friend Experience, no BBFS is implied there.[/QUOTE]You're right about the USA. But, imo, not in other destinations such as around Asia (Thailand and the Philippines, in particular) and parts of Latin America. Bear in mind, I have admitted and fully recognize that the term "GFE" can easily have a dozen different definitions for a dozen different punters. And it is a moving target, evolving over time and place.
In the USA, a hooker in New York or Las Vegas that offers a "Girl Friend Experience" is referring to the candlelight dinner and theater stuff. Might not even include sex at all. Just a paid companion for the evening who makes it appear as if you are on a date. And if there is sex, you could still have had a USA-style P4P GFE with her even though she requires you to wear a condom.
But some of us who have been mongering for 40+ years might remember a time in the pre-HIV / AIDS hysteria era when so-called Sex Tours from the USA touted their trips for introducing you to (impoverished) young ladies in Asia or Latin America with whom you could have a "Girlfriend Experience" and nobody took that to mean candlelight dinners and third row center seats at the theater. Everyone knew it meant the kind of bareback sex you expect to have with a real girlfriend and, not coincidentally, much "better" than what those high end prosties and escorts in New York and Las Vegas meant by it and were offering.
In fact, when the anti-HIV / AIDS crusaders targeted those Sex Tours in the 80's and 90's, they turned the concept around on those tourists and used the term "Girlfriend Experience" as a cudgel to beat up on men who went to those destinations in order to have bareback sex with those impoverished girls; stuff like, "How dare you include the word "Girlfriend" for what you intend to do to those poor girls, spreading dreaded disease and certain death to them that way. You wouldn't do that with a "Girlfriend" in your own country, would you?!" Doesn't anybody over the age of 50 remember that? The term, which anyone following those crusader attacks on the tours would have known meant bareback sex, was so demonized it could no longer be used in the post-HIV / AIDS era. I suspect that is when "Full Service" or whatever took over. Just hinting at the word "girlfriend" as a style of sex one might have on his tour would bring down the wrath of those who were insisting bareback sex was over for our lifetimes.
Additionally, unlike in the USA, for the Western punter here in Thailand (as well as other Asian destinations) and quite unlike the way it is with high end prostitutes and escorts of New York or Las Vegas, nearly ALL of the P4 P experiences are already GFE, are set up to be that way as standard operating procedure and so one needs to identify what is "special" about a GFE touted as an "extra" feature beyond the standard operating procedure.
Think about it. Unless we're talking about something rare like a trip to a brothel with Chinatown-style cribs or perhaps some soapies or massage shops where the girl cannot be barfined out or the assembly line mechanics are such that there is no opportunity to relax, have a drink, chat and get to know each other first, the vast majority of P4 P encounters here in Thailand would immediately be identified as a GFE in the USA whether a condom is required or not; You meet a girl in a bar (the way many meet their girlfriends), chat a bit (GFE), have a few drinks together (GFE), chat about how things are going at the office or whatever (GFE), before the night is over you will likely have exchanged Line numbers (GFE), shared photos of family and friends on it (GFE), you will know the names and ages of her kids and when her birthday is (GFE), she changes into her street clothes to leave with you (GFE), you walk out together hand in hand and for all the world appear to be boyfriend and girlfriend (GFE), you might even stop somewhere else to have more drinks and chat (GFE), perhaps meet up with another couple for a "double date" (GFE), even stop for a meal (GFE). Practically the whole thing is already a GFE as described by some here (as having nothing to do with BBFS).
However, at one critical moment later in the evening the girl is going to define the night for you. She is going to let you know whether this evening has actually been something MORE than standard operating procedure for the barfine style of P4 P Thailand is famous for (which would certainly appear to be a GFE to any prostitute in New York City) or whether this night has been the real GFE you might have thought it was. If later that night she turns to you and says, "Do you have condom? Sorry, honey. No condom, no sex!", then guess what? You have NOT been engaged in any step up GFE feature beyond S.O.P. unless that is how your girlfriends have dealt with you all your life, in which case I sympathize. You should have looked for better girlfriends. No, you have only been engaged in a Standard Operating Procedure Thai P4 P experience. IMO, it is the condom or no condom factor that makes it either S. O. P for Thai P4 P or a step up GFE.
Again, as long as it is a moving target and there seems to be as many definitions for GFE depending on environment and destination as there are punters, that is where I mark the difference between standard Thai-style P4 P experience and a GFE close enough to what happens between a man and his girlfriend to even mention it as something "extra".
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1978853]Thai Uni gals used to wear very tight short skirts and tight tops to show off what little they might have up top. Now they are all wearing longer, looser, and less revealing ones. I would say office dress has become far more conservative as well. Far fewer short tight skirts these days. Thailand is regressing when it comes to women feeling free to express themselves sexually. And the women are going right along with this trend.[/QUOTE]I am not referring to office or school uniforms, of course. These always existed and will always exist in a way.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1977954]Guys, the ladies from the cart bars work down this alley now. The bars are small and line either side of this alley. At night there are a few ladies sitting in the front. Ignore them and walk down and you will see about 6 bars, 3 on each side. Each bar will have just one small area. They are not actual cart bars anymore. Physical small bars. I found out about the new location from the ladies at one of the cart bars I kept in touch with.[/QUOTE]That is Queen Park Plaza, some 200 meters into soi 22 from sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1978957]Is anyone getting laid by Tinder girls besides the obvious hookers and ladyboys?
So far I am meeting fat chicks, bad pics and wasting allot of baht!
Any counsel? Missing the Philippines that's for sure.
PP.[/QUOTE]LOL. I signed up for Tinder a couple of weeks ago on the recommendation of a guy who has done quite well on it here in Bangkok. After three days of "right swiping" girls' pics, which means I am interested, I got exactly one reply from a ladyboy I didn't realize was a ladyboy when I "right swiped" his pic. Not one real girl in three days, for within a 20 mi. radius of my location in the heart of Bangkok as indicated on my GPS. And only 1 ladyboy! LOL.
I cancelled my account and uninstalled the app on the fourth day. Since it required my GPS to be on so much for those supposedly interested parties to find me and I was wasting a lot of time "right swiping" girls' pics for no apparent reason, the only thing it did for me was eat up my phone battery.