Makati

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1616437]Need to get laid this weekend / week in Makati. What do you suggest? This is no Pattaya for sure. Anyway, met a teacher from QC last night at a mall and she was willing to come to my hotel but nothing happened cause she was not "comfortable" after just meeting first time.[/QUOTE]The information you seek has been repeated numerous times herein, but I just sent you a PM that summarizes the high spots. Enjoy your first time in Makati.

GE.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1616452]Why did you go to a mall? For the window shopping?

Did she say she was willing to come to hotel before or after she physically met you?
Anyway, you've provided vague info. Was this QC teacher someone you bumped into while mall wandering or did you meet her online and then arrange to meet in a mall?
If you're looking for a sure thing in Makati go to Burgos Street. If you read the forum you'd know this.[/QUOTE]I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex. Luckily she did not have a child she said unlike 99% of the other single moms on dating sites. So maybe she could be dated in the long term, was a bit chubby though, not fat but not thin.

Burgos is a big miss too. I was in WW bar, Stardust and finally in PlanB. WW bar very poor girls or the best ones taken, I mean downstairs, I asked to play pool with me but none of the 10 girls willing. So I will never go there again. PlanB was best with one quite good looking girl. Price quoted for each girl bf 2600p and 3000 p for the girl. That makes 5600 pesos what is that, more than a USD 100 in a 3rd world country like this. I still thought it but left because I might not have had enough money anyway (my credit card did not work that day at the ATM). Was not a big loss.

Today I just concentrated on shopping clothes. Girls are a big miss here. Also Cafe Havana in my opinion usually full of uglies or some younger ones asking 5000. You have to be very fast, lucky and active in catching a good one. And then still have to pay.

I have written a lot about Havana. Just about went through every experience one can go through with proper planning and hunting at Havana. I was there last week, and this one is worth writing about. But first, my first day experience, and followed by what I think, something to tell the rest of you.

First night.

Walked down and got a table. It was past 10 PM, Saturday evening. So, no tables. The guard recognized me, and made a table for me, right in front of the door, so I can look inside and outside. Thing is they (the guards) all know why we are there, and what we are there for. I see some regulars tipping them. I sat ordered my usual adobo kambing or goat stew. I got hooked onto this several years back, and order it every time I am at Havana. Ordered a beer, and saw the roving eyes. Scanning like a destroyer radar antenna. There probably was a 2 to 1 ratio of girls to guys, so plenty to choose from. I always look for something unusual. But first, dinner. I always eat by myself, finish, and then look. This way, you don't have to buy everybody dinner. Took trips to the toilet. Girls standing in line all said Hello, like I was their next door neighbor. Couple of weirdo guys out there that day. And couple of guys, who were too afraid to approach these girls, but desperately wanted them.

Spotted a nice, simply dressed girl. Made eye contact. She smiled. I smiled. Pointed to the chair opposite me. She was there, faster than a fly escaping your fly bat. Asked for the check. And we went. I know. I know. I always say, negotiate first. I was not in the mood, ok. She did ask me, if I had been there before, and I said, yes. Many times. That probably set the stage. Got to the room. Had a nice experience. She was clean, smelled good and soft. Nice breasts, perfectly shaped body. Showered together. She sucked me in the shower, and migrated to the bed. Tried everything and actually ran out of condoms. I sent her off after about 3 hours. Needed sleep. Gave her 2500 and she wanted 500 more. I gave it to her with a hug. It was a nice, clean, satisfying encounter. Got to buy stock in Cialis, or whoever makes them. Those small dose 10 mg yellow pill does wonders to your staying power and actually increases the size of your manly hood.

Second night.

I went a little bit earlier and sat at the Spanish restaurant right next to Havana. They are the ones that give away those gold bricks. Not sure if they are real though. Maybe someone can take a bite into it, and test. Make sure you have a next day appointment with your dentist first. They always have that 2 for 1 beer (you get a gold brick, which you trade in for the 2nd beverage). Had some tapas. Was not going to drink too much. There were 3 girls sitting across from me. They looked seasoned, like a shrimps on a grill with extra salt and pepper on them. Gave me the come hither look and smiled. I smiled back with the "not today" look. Into my second beer, noticed this young, fresh looking girl walk to them. I took notice. She was shy. She did not make eye contact with anyone except her "friends". Looked down to her friend on the grill, and lifted my eyebrow. She understood immediately. After a few Tagalog words, the newbie looked in my direction. Invited her over. She looked in my direction. She came and sat. Got her a beer. She asked if her friends can come and join. Told her, yes. Bought all of them a drink. Cut the story short, ended leaving with her, and her two "barbie" friends. Headed to Intercon. I was pretty embarrassed on the way, as I got quite a few raised eyebrows. When they all wanted to come, I said I will go broke. Their response was, give us anything you want and we will share as we are going to share you.

Experience:

Not sure if anyone had an orgy involving three girls. But it was something else. Mouths all over, just sent me off my rockers. Two latched onto my titties and one to alter ego and so on. Later, one to dick and one to ass. You name it. Just crazy. A lot of noise to a point, I feared, no more Intercon. No more 4 PM late checkout! Holy crap! What am I going to do? I stay here very frequently. Now I wonder if I should show my up there again at Intercon, with a straight face. Crap!

Spent about 2 hours, finished, and sent the two friends home and kept the new girl. The newbie was tight and nice. Ticklish, and shy. All the symptoms of not having been touched too many times by too many people. We had nice repeats, and sent her off. Gave them all 2000 each. Did not want to spoil it by giving a lot of money. They did not complain. Probably will not repeat this again with foursomes. But it was well worth it.

Note: Saw a whole bunch more newbies here at Havana. And rest of Greenbelt 3 was basically worthless. Used to see them at Sticky Fingers, but now all concentrated at Havana, Star Bucks, Seattle's best coffee area.

I want to say, please read old reports. But I am going to be nice here. Go to Greenbelt 3. Look for a Cafe called Cafe Havana. You will be perfectly fine by yourself. Best bet is after 9 PM, all the way through 2 am. Take your time, and peruse. Find a table in the patio, right in the middle of the patio. You will get surrounded. If you don't find anything, then give up mongering.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1616437]Need to get laid this weekend / week in Makati. What do you suggest? This is no Pattaya for sure. Anyway, met a teacher from QC last night at a mall and she was willing to come to my hotel but nothing happened cause she was not "comfortable" after just meeting first time.[/QUOTE]

They ask for 5000 because they see it written all over your face. Say no. And say, how about 2000?

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1616631]I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex. Luckily she did not have a child she said unlike 99% of the other single moms on dating sites. So maybe she could be dated in the long term, was a bit chubby though, not fat but not thin.

Burgos is a big miss too. I was in WW bar, Stardust and finally in PlanB. WW bar very poor girls or the best ones taken, I mean downstairs, I asked to play pool with me but none of the 10 girls willing. So I will never go there again. PlanB was best with one quite good looking girl. Price quoted for each girl bf 2600p and 3000 p for the girl. That makes 5600 pesos what is that, more than a USD 100 in a 3rd world country like this. I still thought it but left because I might not have had enough money anyway (my credit card did not work that day at the ATM). Was not a big loss.

Today I just concentrated on shopping clothes. Girls are a big miss here. Also Cafe Havana in my opinion usually full of uglies or some younger ones asking 5000. You have to be very fast, lucky and active in catching a good one. And then still have to pay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1616631]I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex. Luckily she did not have a child she said unlike 99% of the other single moms on dating sites. So maybe she could be dated in the long term, was a bit chubby though, not fat but not thin.

Burgos is a big miss too. I was in WW bar, Stardust and finally in PlanB. WW bar very poor girls or the best ones taken, I mean downstairs, I asked to play pool with me but none of the 10 girls willing. So I will never go there again. PlanB was best with one quite good looking girl. Price quoted for each girl bf 2600p and 3000 p for the girl. That makes 5600 pesos what is that, more than a USD 100 in a 3rd world country like this. I still thought it but left because I might not have had enough money anyway (my credit card did not work that day at the ATM). Was not a big loss.

Today I just concentrated on shopping clothes. Girls are a big miss here. Also Cafe Havana in my opinion usually full of uglies or some younger ones asking 5000. You have to be very fast, lucky and active in catching a good one. And then still have to pay.[/QUOTE]Better FR. Firstly, during your pre-meeting communication with her on the dating site was sex discussed? There's no reason for you to leave your hotel if it wasn't or she was on the fence. Others will disagree with me but I don't even bother to leave my condo to meet them anywhere else; they come to my place and they know why they're coming. Her coming to your hotel room usually indicates she's willing to fuck you, but for whatever reason she flaked out. You didn't provide any detail about what transpired there, so hard to assess with whom the fault lies. Your recent text discussing sex is a good sign because she's responding to you, and "maybe" indicates you haven't turned her off entirely, but in my experience a "maybe" is a polite "no" or a way to get another free meal. If she's willing to meet you again don't meet her any other place than your hotel. If she agrees you ought to be good2go.

I'm sure you read the Makati section already so the Burgos costs should be no surprise. Visit a few bars, have a few drinks, buy a few lady drinks, pay a barfine, then pay the girl and your night can soon be at p8000. I find it odd that no one wanted to play pool with you; a girl who entertains a bloke usually finds herself with at least a drink, and that's money in her pocket. Havana is a well-known FL place though regular girls can be found there. You didn't mention whether you tried to negotiate that p5000 down, or whether it was ST or LT, but it seems to me that was her opening price. Some girls shoot for the heavens and sometimes they find a guy who says "Yes!" immediately.

If you're looking for young, attractive and cheap (or free) then you're going to have to work the dating sites. I think it's a sound investment to join a pay site like Filipinocupid (FC) because you're not competing with the free riders found on dateinasia, pinalove, etc. Working a dating site is more effective than wandering a mall or sitting in Havana or Ermita's LA Cafe waiting for your dream girl to arrive. Of course you can sit in those places and work the dating sites concurrently.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1616631]I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex.{S N I P} [/QUOTE]Were you too drunk to sense when and why her attitude changed after dinner?

She has obviously lost interest in you. You even repeat some of her verbal signals like "sick" and "maybe".

Move on. And maybe some of your tactics, techniques and skills need upgrading!

BTW, interesting post that you wrote recently on the Safe Sex in Thailand Forum "Tried boom boom her but with condom too drunk to come so after long thinking I do her BB and then quickly CIP. She angry {SNIP} The girl said I can come see her doctor paper tomorrow, maybe I can but who knows about them, but ok quick forced BB cannot result in HIV can it"?

Went to the new bar Treehouse last night in Makati. Its above Hooters in A. Venue mall.

Very cool place as they have beerpong, fussball and lots of dart boards. Met the Owner and next week the are getting video games that will be free to play, sounds cool. Really great hangout place, but being new had only a few FL's. Not being shy at all I spoke to a group of three and they wanted to make a party of it. Had a few drinks. It was fun but they wanted all three for 6,000. One was to fat for me and ruined the idea. One was hot and the other one "doable". Ended up just playing darts for drinks and left around 2.

All in all a really cool bar that I would recommend 100%. I assume as time goes on more fls will be there but will have to see.

[QUOTE=Teacup;1596926]Returned to the most low key of the lot. Wow Wow Wow, and was expertly felated by slim and short Joyce behind the curtain. P1500 to her (and she took it on the face and into her open mouth as asked) and about P2 K in drinks and fees to the bar. Cheap prices too. Club soda for 80, was 120 -150 in other joints.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BronzeMan;1611276]Am I the only one that thinks dropping a $100 US for a blowjob in a bar is outrageous? Especially when the same thing is available in Thailand, which is a richer country, for $19.[/QUOTE]He paid PHP 1500 for the BJ. That's about $35. He paid another P2 K to the bar for drinks and stuff, so that's about 80 bucks in total.

When comparing to Thailand, his experience at WWW is more analogous to AfterSkool than to a dedicated BJ bar like SoL. You might pay less or more depending on the exuberance of the occasion!

Hi guys,

Am coming to Makati for work in 2 weeks. I land early on a Monday morning and don't have to go to work till the next day. So I have almost an entire day to sample the wares. Am going to be there for the next 5 days, but with coworkers so will not have as much flexibility. The first day is really on my own and am hoping to make the most of it.

Been RTFF religiously for the past several days but haven't been able to find answers to a couple questions. I promise I looked!

1. What are the best daytime options for finding a LT / GFE? Money is no object. Would love to find a cutie to take back to the hotel and lounge around for the day with. Havana's seems to be a great nighttime option, but can't seem to figure out where to go if starting early. DIA / Filipino cupid seem to be an option but the level of traceability is more than I want to risk.

2. Is a day trip to AC worth doing if I only have 1 day + 4 evenings / nights in Makati?

3. If anyone else is in Makati the week of the 22nd, please hit me up. Would love to venture out with a like minded punter.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=ZocDoc;1618602]Hi guys,

Am coming to Makati for work in 2 weeks. I land early on a Monday morning and don't have to go to work till the next day. So I have almost an entire day to sample the wares. Am going to be there for the next 5 days, but with coworkers so will not have as much flexibility. The first day is really on my own and am hoping to make the most of it.

Been RTFF religiously for the past several days but haven't been able to find answers to a couple questions. I promise I looked!

1. What are the best daytime options for finding a LT / GFE? Money is no object. Would love to find a cutie to take back to the hotel and lounge around for the day with. Havana's seems to be a great nighttime option, but can't seem to figure out where to go if starting early. DIA / Filipino cupid seem to be an option but the level of traceability is more than I want to risk.

2. Is a day trip to AC worth doing if I only have 1 day + 4 evenings / nights in Makati?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Early morning arrival makes it awkward. An evening I would say go down to Burgos & rent something suitable (or two or three.).

Since you're time poor & cash rich on a morning arrival then I guess your limited to Escort agency or dating site girls or go down to Pasay to one of the fish bowl places.

I've never patronised the very high priced escort agencies in Manila but others have as it fills a niche need, like yours. Satisfaction varies, some escorts mind blowing, others star fishes. YMMV.

Both myself & Skogis recently posted elsewhere about finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile. We can do it, so can you. If you have any mongering exoerience at all you should be fine. Satisfaction depends on how fussy you are, the girls may not always be top shelf (forrest gumps box of chocolates) but they are fun. You can get lucky & get a super nice one but don't fall in love, they will do their best to grab you.

Anecdotal experience of best dating sites? DIA & PL both produce copious amounts of hottie's for me (according to your particular tastes). Be very careful of DIA, although free, they have implemented automatic filters that instantly kill your account if you say _anything_ that they deem naughty, either in your profile or in your messages to / from girls. I have a nice guy profile & move the conversation to email / I'm etc as soon as possible. I've never been banned but had hottie's I'm chatting to on site get instant ban as soon as they get to naughty talk. Get their contact details asap & move them off the DIA chat system asap.

PL is also prolific for me. There I have a very naughty boy profile. Extremely to the point but tasteful. I get mouth watering honeys that are on the hustle & avoid the husband hunters. Some conservative husband hunters still cintact me, cut their losses & get naughty regardless he he he. I don't recommend the other dating sites for just in time delivery, but YMMV.

Forget AC this trip, 4 hour round trip. You don't have time. On the remaining days dating site+Burgos+Havana will keep your nights very busy.

AV.

AV, thank you so much for the reply.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1618933]Early morning arrival makes it awkward. [/QUOTE]This is what I was afraid of. Wish there were some better flight times!

[QUOTE=Amavida;1618933]Since you're time poor & cash rich on a morning arrival then I guess your limited to Escort agency or dating site girls or go down to Pasay to one of the fish bowl places.

I've never patronised the very high priced escort agencies in Manila but others have as it fills a niche need, like yours. Satisfaction varies, some escorts mind blowing, others star fishes. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately been there done that and doesn't do it for me. Maybe part of the attraction is the thrill of going out and picking in person vs. From a "catalog".

[QUOTE=Amavida;1618933]Both myself & Skogis recently posted elsewhere about finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile. We can do it, so can you. If you have any mongering exoerience at all you should be fine. Satisfaction depends on how fussy you are, the girls may not always be top shelf (forrest gumps box of chocolates) but they are fun. You can get lucky & get a super nice one but don't fall in love, they will do their best to grab you.[/QUOTE]Hadn't come across the "guide to finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile" Will go back and search for that!

[QUOTE=Amavida;1618933]Anecdotal experience of best dating sites? DIA & PL both produce copious amounts of hottie's for me (according to your particular tastes). Be very careful of DIA, although free, they have implemented automatic filters that instantly kill your account if you say _anything_ that they deem naughty, either in your profile or in your messages to / from girls. I have a nice guy profile & move the conversation to email / I'm etc as soon as possible. I've never been banned but had hottie's I'm chatting to on site get instant ban as soon as they get to naughty talk. Get their contact details asap & move them off the DIA chat system asap.[/QUOTE]I just signed up for PinaLove and DIA and Filipino Cupid. The challenge I'm having is getting past the fear of posting my photo and email address and then having it pop up through a google webcrawler search 3 years down the road!!

[QUOTE=Amavida;1618933]Forget AC this trip, 4 hour round trip. You don't have time. [/QUOTE]Thanks a bunch again!

[QUOTE=ZocDoc;1618946]Hadn't come across the "guide to finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile" Will go back and search for that![/QUOTE]I posted a tongue a tongue in cheek but honest account in the chat rooms forum here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1616262[/URL]#post1616262.

Skogis posted a lot of FR's in the Makati & Picture forums about his adventures doing dating site girls operating from his base in Makati.

[QUOTE=ZocDoc;1618946]I just signed up for PinaLove and DIA and Filipino Cupid. The challenge I'm having is getting past the fear of posting my photo and email address and then having it pop up through a google webcrawler search 3 years down the road!![/QUOTE]Yahoo is still huge in the Phils. Get a new one ([EMAIL]naughtyzocdoc@yahoo.com[/EMAIL]?) use it and close it when you're done. Open your dating site profiles, save a copy of the spiel, close the profiles when your done. Very unlikely to show up later as the websites have deleted the pages. Gilrs want to see a clear face pic at least & preferably a body shot. No way to avoid this. Just delete / close the accounts as soon as your done with them. Save contact details of the girls, you will find they remember for years later. A txt / I'm / email next trip will often be answered positively if you wish to see them again.

[QUOTE=ZocDoc;1618946]Thanks a bunch again![/QUOTE]Welcome, others will chime in with their opinions / ideas.

AV.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1618977]I posted a tongue a tongue in cheek but honest account in the chat rooms forum here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1616262[/URL]#post1616262.

Yahoo is still huge in the Phils. Get a new one ([EMAIL]naughtyzocdoc@yahoo.com[/EMAIL]?) use it and close it when you're done. Open your dating site profiles, save a copy of the spiel, close the profiles when your done. Very unlikely to show up later as the websites have deleted the pages. Gilrs want to see a clear face pic at least & preferably a body shot. No way to avoid this. Just delete / close the accounts as soon as your done with them. Save contact details of the girls, you will find they remember for years later. A txt / I'm / email next trip will often be answered positively if you wish to see them again.

Welcome, others will chime in with their opinions / ideas.

AV.[/QUOTE]There also wechat for the look around function that has proved (to me) to be very useful for making an instant Hello, and a meeting and a date later. Theres a few others with a similr look around function whereby you can see a girls pics. The rest as they say, is up to you. Its not hard if you know what to ask and how to phrase it and can't establish some chemistry. Humour works very well!

[QUOTE=ZocDoc;1618946]

I just signed up for PinaLove and DIA and Filipino Cupid. The challenge I'm having is getting past the fear of posting my photo and email address and then having it pop up through a google webcrawler search 3 years down the road!!

Thanks a bunch again![/QUOTE]Theres pretty much a Golden Rule for the Girls of " No pics No pay or even potential of play" especailly as your time is limited.

Find a pic with a likeness of your own (but don't choose Brad, several of us have his pics LOL) so that you can tell a girl it was an old pic of you.