Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057] The real problem is that more and more unaware people reads reports here and gets the impression that "if they go there, I can go too". 99% of people in Centro is ok, but the problem is the 1% who does not mind using a knife to get what he desperately needs. It is important to keep in mind that ANY foreigner, it does not matter how badly dressed, bald or with long pony tail, is seen by those 1% as a walking ATM, most likely with more money in pockets than anyone else in a 5 km radius.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with that, most of the time, it's going to be fine. It's a small percentage where things go wrong. If you grew up near any major city, this is nothing new. I go to El Centro to walk around, do some shopping, get lunch. Middle of the day and never had an issue, the store employees are always very polite and welcoming and I've even found the two best English speakers in Medellin at shoe stores in Centro, weird.

Depends what your plans are but I rarely leave the house with more than 200 k. If I'm going to Centro for a couple of hours, I may only take 100 k. I can get lunch (10 k), buy a pair of shoes (50 k), buy a bag full of fruit (10 k) and still have left over. I plan to monger but never found anything I like. Every time I've been in Centro, I see numerous small groups of Europeans, or other Americans, or couples. All wearing shorts, flip flops, camera out around the neck, clearly tourists.

Basically, don't be an idiot and don't carry more than you're willing to lose and there should be no problem.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2461065]Totally agree with that, most of the time, it's going to be fine. It's a small percentage where things go wrong. .............[/QUOTE]I've traveled all over the world and the only place where I've been physically accosted was in El Centro Medellin. Some years ago I had my phone out taking photos and two guys came up to me one of whom grabbed my phone in public with many people around, no weapon was brandished and I held on to the phone shouting loudly "Policia!". They walked away. People barely looked and none with any appearance of shock or surprise. The other time I was seated on a bench in Botero park and a female druggie asked me for money which I refused, she socked me one on the chin and ran away. She packed quite a whallop. About half an hour later I saw her running with police in hot pursuit. Never a dull moment in El Centro.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2460938]I caught this on Google Street Maps this was at Avenue Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Carrera 47, you can see that one guy is getting ready to knife another guy. If you close at the photos you can see a white jacket the one guy has in the first photo (the photo with the truck's luggage rack dead center) blue shirt guy is standing directly behind the truck clutching the white jacket. Next photo is white shirted guy is pulling out the knife and has the jacket laying behind him and blue shirted guy is doubled over like he just got tagged. The next photo white shirt guy is full on knife fight stance and I am a little impressed that blue shirt guy has not just ran but he looks like a glue head so maybe he is not smart enough to know when to run. Then the final scene that Google captured, the one where you see the back of a white car, they are grappling with maybe the jacket and the knife.

I originally posted this months ago, and since then I have gone back to look and Google has changed the street view dates that are available to see and I cannot find it, but at the time I took a look around to see how people were responding to the situation and no one was even reacting except the guy in the baseball cap walking backs up at first as the guy is pulling out the knife but then he just looks like he is waiting to get by.

This was obviously locals seemingly fighting over a jacket but possible ready to kill over the jacket and I wonder if any of the El Centro regulars have seen this type of scraps before?[/QUOTE]Saw 2 young guys beating on a homeless guy and taking a cellphone from his pocket alongside the Veracruz church one night about 9:30. Later saw the homeless guy walking through Botero Plaza. My thoughts were that the homeless guy had stolen the phone from someone and the 2 guys were stealing it from him.

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[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=807816&viewfull=1#post807816[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this again. Interesting that you paid 20 k + 4 k for a chica, which hasn't changed much. Whereas the airport taxi was 48 k then but 80 k now.

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I took my risks and I was also robbed a couple times (entirely my fault). The only reasonable way to stay safe and out of troubles is 1) blend and do not put yourself under spotlight; 2) show yourself busy; 3) [I]"No dar papaya"[/I].
[/QUOTE]Definitely useful advice but a bit harsh on yourself to victim-blame.

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As it was easily predictable, examples of robberies or attempts were reported here recently. Many more must have happened, but were not reported. The real problem is that more and more unaware people reads reports here and gets the impression that "if they go there, I can go too". 99% of people in Centro is ok, but the problem is the 1% who does not mind using a knife to get what he desperately needs. It is important to keep in mind that ANY foreigner, it does not matter how badly dressed, bald or with long pony tail, is seen by those 1% as a walking ATM, most likely with more money in pockets than anyone else in a 5 km radius.[/QUOTE]I will definitely try to remember this next time I am able to visit there.

Loving this time before borders open and these dudes come to Meddy. [URL]https://youtu.be/xaoBdmZxC6E[/URL]

Thought about this seeing people discussing price in the thread lol

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2461109]Thanks for sharing this again. Interesting that you paid 20 k + 4 k for a chica, which hasn't changed much. Whereas the airport taxi was 48 k then but 80 k now.[/QUOTE]Are you arguing that I overpaid at that time? LOL maybe. I am never stingy with girls, and sometimes they take advantage.

I also paid 50 k a girl smelling glue in San Diego, but that was a totally different story (duly reported here). She become kind of my "girlfriend" over multiple visits in MDE, she arranged another girl, and we had many many adventures in the dark night (this is for Surfer500).

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2461109]Definitely useful advice but a bit harsh on yourself to victim-blame.[/QUOTE]Really not. I said it was my fault, because I did something imprudent and I paid the price. I did imprudent things many times, but one cannot be safe all times. Sooner or later, you catch the incident.

One time, I showed my wallet to give some money to a girl who was begging in the street (6pm on La 19 in Bogota).

Another, I went with a girl looking too smart since the beginning to a small hotel in a alley of Medellin Centro at 1am or something. She took a knife from her pocket in the room and took all my money (less than 100k) even searching in my shoes. Why I did not resist? Because if I you are in a room of a small hotel at night in Centro then you are fully at disposal of the guys there. Last thing I wanted was to be accused to rape the girl or assault her. Better give up the 80k and keep my ass clean and safe.
(I left the room after the girl, and the portero asked me with an evil smile "problemas?")

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461110]Loving this time before borders open and these dudes come to Meddy.
Thought about this seeing people discussing price in the thread lol[/QUOTE]
What amazes me is whether this guy was fliyng alone on an airplane all for himself, or he really does not care about other people listening to his masterclass on P4P.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461121]Are you arguing that I overpaid at that time? LOL maybe. I am never stingy with girls, and sometimes they take advantage.[/QUOTE]In 2008 I wouldn't have even been able to point to Colombia on a map, I don't know what the market rate was then! But it does seem that while gringos are seen as wealthy, the chicas in El Centro don't particularly try to overcharge. In contrast to Parque Lleras where prices in dollars can be quoted.

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Another, I went with a girl looking too smart since the beginning to a small hotel in a alley of Medellin Centro at 1am or something. She took a knife from her pocket in the room and took all my money (less than 100k) even searching in my shoes. Why I did not resist? Because if I you are in a room of a small hotel at night in Centro then you are fully at disposal of the guys there. Last thing I wanted was to be accused to rape the girl or assault her. Better give up the 80k and keep my ass clean and safe.
(I left the room after the girl, and the portero asked me with an evil smile "problemas?")
[/QUOTE]Does the evil smile mean he was in on it? What's the lesson here? To not let the chica choose the short-time hotel? Well done for managing to come out of it without getting hurt.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2461110]Loving this time before borders open and these dudes come to Meddy. [URL]https://youtu.be/xaoBdmZxC6E[/URL]

Thought about this seeing people discussing price in the thread lol[/QUOTE]He's happy to pay 200 dollars a time, so he won't be frequenting El Centro any time soon! However he looks well built, he'd be useful to walk around El Centro with from the point of view of safety.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2460974]Not funny. That is 2-3 guys checking the white guy's pockets. The guy is getting robbed. Some of you people do not belong in Centro. You have no idea what is happening.[/QUOTE]That is pretty dangerous. If there is a group of them, the others will join like a feeding frenzy after one has initiated the attack.

Lucy the 24 yo Venezuelan tinto thermos girl from Parque Berrio arrived at 1030 am. It took some messaging, can you pay, from where do I take a taxi, from what metro station et cetera. But she made it. (I gave her 30 mil for taxis on the way out.).

She had clothes on as I had asked; tight black pants and a shirt. Great attitude the whole time, we ate leftover pizza and wine from D1. She's 24, she's got a solid mom-bod, if you know what I mean. Very outgoing and she loves sex work, it's her preferred work. Says that she worked a lot in Lleras before the quarantine.

We headed to the bedroom and shared her joint. Then started to strip down, I knew I was going to have a good time. She gave me an amazing blowjob, deep throat, stroking, backing off just when she had to so that I wouldn't pop. I gave her the vibrator and she carefully checked out all the modes and she was stoked, and got to work. I was shooting videos and after a while, she had the bulb end of the massage vibrator (maybe 60% the size of an original Hitachi), inside her pussy, she was vibing the inside of her pussy and pulling it out and then deep throat the vibrator, as I fingered her g-spot. Then after some work and plenty of lube, she had the bulb in her ass as I was taking video. Pretty cool.

She blew me some more and had a great session, pounding away in various positions, I'the take breaks with her deepthroat me and she was back using the vibrator, alternating between oral and fucking. Eventually after a long session in doggy, she was sucking me and I told her I was getting close, and popped in her mouth, at that point she laid black and played with my load with her fingers and mouth. Lucy is very open minded and down for anything. Emphasis on Everything. And those are her words and her emphasis. It was a standout session for me.

She ate a second piece of leftover pizza and she got ready to head back to Parque Berrio. We had not made an agreement on money before her coming. I gave her 100 mil and 30 mil taxis and she was thrilled. She said that she had not had a gringo client nor been in a nice apartment in a long time. She left after 3. 75 hours. I rate Lucy a 6 body with a great face, and 10 attitude and 10 willingness. Definitely on the repeat list at this time.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2461057]Much worse than that. See this old report of mine "Night street scenes in El Centro" dated 2008:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=807816&viewfull=1#post807816[/URL]
Surfer500 will like to read this old report, if he forgot it.

SIGH! I was 12 years younger, discovering this new world of Colombia, venturing out at Centro strolling the streets at 2am doing "social exploration", amazed by that alien world and trying to emulate the King of South America Tungurahua and his mythical posts from Quito and beyond.

Over the last years, I have been increasingly perplexed by seeing more and more reports here kind of "legitimizing" the Centro, almost encouraging people to go and enjoy like if it was nothing. No, in general it is NOT a good idea to go there and exhibit ourselves evidently foreigners. I say that, and I am one who likes to go and explore anywhere. I took my risks and I was also robbed a couple times (entirely my fault). The only reasonable way to stay safe and out of troubles is 1) blend and do not put yourself under spotlight; 2) show yourself busy; 3) [I]"No dar papaya"[/I].[/QUOTE]What I have personally observed in El Centro along with what I have read on this board for several years is pretty much a recurring theme when it comes to being robbed, whether it's a foreigner or locals. It's always the same issues that are raised, and the passing of time really hasn't changed much in that regards, however the biggest change has been with the invasion of all the Venezuelans, and I am perplexed / skeptical of some of the reports as of lately regarding Botero Park. The stories of hundreds of girls there throughout the day with little to no clients, phones being stolen, that's a given.

However a previous report a few months back said that all the girls were reporting to one girl, whose picture was posted, and now it's been posted that two guys are in charge of Botero Park. I know there are bad guys there with knives, everybody has them, but find it hard to believe that the majority of the Venezuelan women would defer or report to others in the Park as I see them having no benefit in doing so unless someone can explain this. Maybe it's a Venezuelan thing, as I'm not aware of the Colombians operating this way at ground zero.

Given the Pandemic and the dire straits people are in, I would think it would be each working girl for themselves versus being beholden to someone.

I lost all reasoning when I read the George Jefferson description. Here it is a day later and it still makes me laugh out loud.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2460974]Not funny. That is 2-3 guys checking the white guy's pockets. The guy is getting robbed. Some of you people do not belong in Centro. You have no idea what is happening.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2461140]That is pretty dangerous. If there is a group of them, the others will join like a feeding frenzy after one has initiated the attack.[/QUOTE]Fuck yeah it is. But these clowns will point fingers at gringos and ***** about the prices. They used to get great prices in Hunts Point too back in New York.

Stay away from El Centro if you are not local. 8.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2461176]Stay away from El Centro if you are not local. 8.[/QUOTE]Locals themselves definitely consider El Centro to be dangerous. Shortly before the quarantine, my girlfriend was heading home on the back of a moto at about 10 pm. Right as they pulled up to her building, a second moto pulled up with two guys, the passenger had a pistol, they robbed the driver of my girlfriend's moto of his wallet, his cellular, and his moto, and the two robbers drove off on the two bikes. My girlfriend had her hands on her keys as they pulled up so she was able to quickly get inside the gate to her building. And, they called the police but they never responded nor took a report; the police said they would respond if the owner ever finds his bike.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2461131]1) Does the evil smile mean he was in on it?
2) What's the lesson here? To not let the chica choose the short-time hotel?
3) Well done for managing to come out of it without getting hurt.[/QUOTE]1) Probably, and this reinforced my first on-spot assessment that the wisest thing to do was to comply (politely and nicely) to the requests of the girl, even if the knife was small and I could block her hand in a second.

2) No lesson. Sometime you can choose the hotel, sometimes not. This Centro area is not a club. It's wild forest. If you voluntarily enter, you must comply with the environment. If you take a girl from Centro, you will not know a place at 100 m distance unless you are expert of the area. Are you not expert of the place? Then don't go, or expose moderately to risks while you build your experience.

3) Yes, I congratulated with myself also at that time, but lots of adrenaline once I exited the gate and reached the street, believe me. I learned from adventure movies (LOL) that in these situations the more quiet and calm one is, the better is for everyone. When 3 slum boys tried to rob me with knife in Bogota (6pm 19a con Caracas), I managed to keep them calm by quietly talking and offering my collaboration (Tranquilo, que pasa? Que quieres? Quieres plata?) until they ran away without anything. More or less the same approach that Rangers advise to hikers who meet a black bear on a trail.