Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[QUOTE=ArcadiaEgo;1612661]Also, I'm only two days in and I'm beginning to hate this place. Every (read: Every) person is out to scam you one way or another. If you see a smiling face, they are trying to get something from you. It's a country where you have to ask anyone you are doing any financial transaction with (like food, cabs, goods, whatever) how are you going to try to fuck me over. Such as hugely different prices for foreigners, "hidden" fees, etc.

If that's not enough, crimes against tourists seem to be going up. They come around with box cutters to cut your backpack / camera strap away from you then race off on their Vespas. Or come up to you in gangs of five or more then mug you. The police here are next to useless. You have to actively protect all of your belongings at all times, even hotels.

I've never seen anything like this before. Don't get me wrong. I've been to PI, Thailand, Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. I don't mind if I get overcharged a buck or two in these places because I understand their economic situation. I'm actually pretty liberal with my money when it comes to vacations. But Saigon / HCMC is definitely something else.

My hope is when I escape this city tomorrow to go up to Hoi An, it may get better. I doubt it though. There's no wonder in my mind why only 5% of tourists return to this place a second time.[/QUOTE]This is one of the craziest posts I have seen. I walk the streets at any hour and always alone and I never ever run into trouble. I am not a big person and I have never felt unsafe. If there are scammers then there are no more than any other country. In fact I can't think of any scammers unless you call it a scam to quote an initial high price in the market. I have never seen any gangs ever, not heard of box cutter-wielding bandits. One person may have had a bad experience, but this is not the norm. This place is a hotbed of sex, sin and fun. There is so much going on that you won't be able to fit it all in.

[QUOTE=ArcadiaEgo;1612835]As someone who obviously hasn't read anything past the first page, good luck bro.[/QUOTE]Nothing in recent posts answer my questions. And I'm not going back past 2010 because at that point, the info is probably not as reliable.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;1617117]Nothing in recent posts answer my questions. And I'm not going back past 2010 because at that point, the info is probably not as reliable.[/QUOTE]What were your questions again? I see one post of yours below asking about escort sites and 4-5 star hotels being GF.

I haven't tried 4-5 star hotels myself to test it out, but have seen many reports up here about them not being GF. Easy solution, just go to a hotel more suited to what you want, that's what people here do. You still have your main hotel room, you just go quickly get another one to do what you want there. You want your 4-5 star hotel room and also be able to have it be GF? Sorry, that's just not going to work. It could be that all the people who posted before were lying, but I don't think it's likely. I have seen reports that said they were allowed to have girls up in the room before a certain time, like 9 pm or 10 pm or 11 pm, I don't remember, but not after that. I know this isn't the answer you want, but I'm pretty sure this is how it is.

About the escort sites, sorry I have no idea.

Were there other questions?

I saw in one of your posts that going into girl bars wasn't an option since you were on a business trip. I assume you won't have a chaperone with you, so I don't see what's to stop you making a tour of the area solo in the evening or later. That said, those places are not too good lately. I've had a string of pretty terrible experiences in them recently. And a few years ago they were far better than they are now, in terms of the quality of the girls (youth and beauty) and also the service level. More and more of the bars are adopting a scam mentality toward the customer.

[QUOTE=JamesDean2;1615600]Given that my hotel does not allow company and I do like more than a cramped hot toc, I have been hunting for, shall I say, a regular brothel for 6 months now.

(I come here very often).

Finally found one.

This place is opposite the Grand Saigon hotel in a small alley off. On the corner there is a small cafe.

If you are not sure, just sit here and get a beer and you will see a flock of women going in and out. Just follow the candy.

Once you enter the alley, normally someone will approach you. He is is manager of the 'hotel'.

If not, just walk 20 metres and you will see a hotel on your left. Small reception are and a room to the right with chairs etc...[/QUOTE]I had a opportunity to examine this location so I wanted to provide a second opinion and some clarification. Firstly this isn't a "fishbowel" perse, what it is is a depot for all the motogirls working in the area, in the past there was a few hotels running this business model you will arrive with a xe om etc they will call the girls and they will arrive for your approval. When I was there at the cafe for about 30-40 min a total of 10-12 girls arrive in the mid-late 20's and around 6-7's with the lower end of the scale more in number. I would be very suprised if these arent the very same girls offered for 40 USD without the mark up and hotel fees by the moto pimps hanging around. I was actually offered it for 100 USD which I refused given the lack of outstanding girls and my alternatives. I would say given the system it would be hard to get it below 1 mill, and for the looks and what I would assume is limited service, I would personally give it a miss unless you find a gem. I saw quite alot of korean japanese customers a few indian types and one caucasian, none left smiling and actually left in a hurry, the service time seems to be under the 1 hr range. So imo for a little more you prob get a better experience from the girls at the PNL bars.

[QUOTE=OzzieSuds;1616341]I reckon he is talking about the Nga Quan Hotel which is in a lane off Ho Huan Nghiep. I usually stay in the New Hotel nearby and what I see there are obvious professionals with makeup and jewellry etc. Far prefer the SYT that can be met in the various businesses nearby.[/QUOTE]Dang. I was walking around there today to try to find this hotel spot but couldn't remember the name. I saw a sign for Hotel Thien Kim Duc in an alleyway, but couldn't find the entrance. Either way, I guess it was the wrong spot or wrong alley way because it wasn't Nga Quan. I'll check again tomorrow.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1618448]I had a opportunity to examine this location so I wanted to provide a second opinion and some clarification. Firstly this isn't a "fishbowel" perse, what it is is a depot for all the motogirls working in the area, in the past there was a few hotels running this business model you will arrive with a xe om etc they will call the girls and they will arrive for your approval. When I was there at the cafe for about 30-40 min a total of 10-12 girls arrive in the mid-late 20's and around 6-7's with the lower end of the scale more in number. I would be very suprised if these arent the very same girls offered for 40 USD without the mark up and hotel fees by the moto pimps hanging around. I was actually offered it for 100 USD which I refused given the lack of outstanding girls and my alternatives. I would say given the system it would be hard to get it below 1 mill, and for the looks and what I would assume is limited service, I would personally give it a miss unless you find a gem. I saw quite alot of korean japanese customers a few indian types and one caucasian, none left smiling and actually left in a hurry, the service time seems to be under the 1 hr range. So imo for a little more you prob get a better experience from the girls at the PNL bars.[/QUOTE]Ah, I didn't see this post before when I wrote. Thanks for the heads up MutantChicken. I'd probably still go just to sit at the cafe and watch the parade of girls. Anyone want to join me for a beer?

[QUOTE=VietLover;1618500]Ah, I didn't see this post before when I wrote. Thanks for the heads up MutantChicken. I'd probably still go just to sit at the cafe and watch the parade of girls. Anyone want to join me for a beer?[/QUOTE]Some examples of the local freelancer action all only 300 k plus hotel. FYI.

I thought I uploaded the pics but something went wrong.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1618448]Firstly this isn't a "fishbowel" perse, what it is is a depot for all the motogirls working in the area, .... So imo for a little more you prob get a better experience from the girls at the PNL bars.[/QUOTE]You are right, not a fishbowl perse as compared to the Thai ones. Your description is way more accurate for this place!

I am going to check out the PNL bars next based on your advice. First its time to RTFF for me to find out about these places!

Cheers

Another one I tried today cost 300 k, 25 yrs old unrushed BBBJ any position.

[QUOTE=VietLover;1618500]Anyone want to join me for a beer?[/QUOTE]Do you drink beer?

This one is 19 yrs old decent service tho can't say exactly GFE. BBBJ tries to deepthroat no kissing but very vocal and you can feel her tiny pussy griping your dick.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1620009]Another one I tried today cost 300 k, 25 yrs old unrushed BBBJ any position.[/QUOTE]Are these the girls from that ally near the cafe? What are pnl bars? Where did you find 300 k action?

[QUOTE=Pesto26;1620272]Are these the girls from that ally near the cafe? What are pnl bars? Where did you find 300 k action?[/QUOTE]Given the title of the post, the prices mentioned and the descriptions of the girls from the alley / cafe, its clearly not a case that these girl for 300 k are from there. Likewise a bit of common sense would allow you to work out what the pnl bars are.

Pesto26,

Mutant Chicken is a professional tour guide. You must become a paid member of this forum, and then you can send a private message to Lance and he will require a fee for showing you 300 k full service locations probably way out in Go Vap and such.

If you don't know what PNL bars are I can show you free of charge, but Mutant Chicken is your best resource for 300 k service.