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[QUOTE=Rubberyman][QUOTE=Blackangst]
For long term visitors or repeat visitors with contacts this is viable.
However, for someone who is new or visits only infrequently, they come up with the problem of how to get to know the bar girls without going through the more expensive process the first time.
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Agree. And youre right....avoiding the "see how you are"'s can be challenging hehe
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Ok so at one time or another we all have heard that the American Hotel is haunted. According to many of the bar girls accounts. I have heard some girls have died there and haunt some of the rooms. I have also heard something about a woman that roams the hall ways. I have stayed there several times and for the price and what you get you can not go wrong. I actually think its the best bargain for decent hotel. Rooms are big and clean as well and has a decent pool. (P1200 a night). So back to the Ghost story, I finally asked 2 staff about the story and they just kind of laughed it off. So what is the real deal about the American Hotel? Frankly, I like it because its perfect location.[/QUOTE]Flip chicks are HIGHLY superstitious. They're always on about ghosts & spirits & 'wak waks' & giant snakes that swallowed a baby & shit like that! :)
Underneath the overlay of catholicism the old animist beliefs are still there i think.
Ever llooked at the homegrown horror movies that people watch on tv here?
Its exactly like that!!
AV
The story I've heard a few times is that it's one of the front rooms in America (I think first floor) and the ghost is a filipina who was killed by a tourist. There are stories about people staying in that room and "strange" things happening.
I was chatting to one of the guards once (I think in Clarkton, not America)and he told me he saw a ghost on the roof and another of the guards had also seen a ghost.
You're right, the filipinos are very superstitious and believe in lots of things from faith healers to extreme religious beliefs.
Ghost stories are fun. So many people have stories to tell. England is full of ghost stories. One good memory was a tourist ghost walk late at night in one of the old cities in England and the Japanese tourist (female!) wanting to hold my hand as she was scared by the guide's ghost stories. :)
Tempting to stay in that front room in America Hotel hoping to get a good ghost story of my own to tell :) Anyone know the room number of the "haunted room"? Was it 102?
I agree America is very good value. I've stayed in the front rooms before (not the "haunted" one and also a very big room at the back of America. The only problem is the front rooms can have a bit of traffic noise and you can get woken up early in the back rooms with the roosters and the close proximity of the local families.
[QUOTE=Dcand4]Ok so at one time or another we all have heard that the American Hotel is haunted. According to many of the bar girls accounts. I have heard some girls have died there and haunt some of the rooms. I have also heard something about a woman that roams the hall ways. I have stayed there several times and for the price and what you get you can not go wrong. I actually think its the best bargain for decent hotel. Rooms are big and clean as well and has a decent pool. (P1200 a night). So back to the Ghost story, I finally asked 2 staff about the story and they just kind of laughed it off. So what is the real deal about the American Hotel? Frankly, I like it because its perfect location.[/QUOTE]
[quote= blackangst]in malate theres robinsons mall. in greenbelt theres glorietta. in makati theres sm. i always get a disposable cell when i land, and pick up girls at the malls. your cost will be dinner, maybe a movie.[\quote]i’ll tell you about my experiences in the pi. i’ve been to manila and angeles. i have already posted detailed trips reports here already so i’ll make this one shorter. i tried picking up girls at sm in angeles. i got three phone numbers. one didn’t want to do anything, just wanted to meet up the next day for something whatever. i thought waste of time. the second and third ones both wanted to go to dinner but i asked them if they wanted to just go straight to my hotel. they kept saying let’s go to dinner and they were texting me like crazy. i just ignored all of them. when i posted my report here, i asked members what they thought of my situation. a few guys said i should have taken them to dinner and see where things went but i’m so used to girls here in the states. i kept thinking that they were going to get a free meal and tell me to fuck off. that would have drove me crazy. also, you know when you’re walking to sm and you go under that bridge there’s a police officer in the middle of the street directing traffic. i was attempting to pick up girls and that guy told me "hey buddy, there are plenty of girls in fields, please don’t mess with these girls". i was surprised. no-one posted anything here on the forum about anything like that happening in pi.
[quote= blackangst]employees if youre discreet.[\quote]
when i was trying to pick up girls in sm all i did was walk up and down the mall talking to random chicks. maybe i did something wrong because like i said, i only got three numbers. what i really wanted to do was talk to the employees in the retail store section of sm. you know that place that has all those sexy employees that try to get you to buy anything as soon as you make eye contact with them. i really wanted to get the phone numbers of like 6 of those girls but i wasn’t sure if that would be alright since the store was so empty and every time i tried to talk to one of them alone, three other employees would come over. i was saying to myself “shit, i can’t be alone with one of these girls long enough to get a phone number!” but no worries because i’ve decided that the next time i go there, i’m going to straight to the retail store and i’m going to try to get the phone number of every hot girl i see in that retail store. i don’t care who is watching me or next to me.
[quote= blackangst]for bf theres burgos st, specifically flamingos and rogues at 1500p. one thing about burgos is, in some bars your drinks count towards your bf. most bars have happy hour also at half price drinks. theres 50-60 bars on burgos. billboards has about the best lineup of girls, except for air force one. tickles is a crazy ass bar where alot can happen, and has a wild vip room. rascals has a gorgeous set of twins that bf together if youre nice. so much there. in edsa bf are a little more expensive, but quality is far better. service is top notch. like i said an 8 in ac is a 5 or 6 in manila. theres also freelance scene, which is a different subject altogether. when i go i usually get either freebees or fl. it feels like more of a "real date". subic has good action too, is prettier, and not far from manila or ac.[\quote]
at the famous burgos st., the bf is 1500p? i thought the bf there is very expensive or maybe that was just propaganda. well now i know what the real price is. :) i never really thought about subic being a worthy place to visit. however if you saying now that there are stunners there in abundance then i very well might check it out for my next trip. :)
[quote= blackangst] theres also casas, but thats another subject altogether.[\quote]
i have a bad experience with casas. basically i got taken to a casas with an **** girl. she had to be about 14yrs old. you can read about it in my trip report here. i read here that you should always avoid casas since you can get killed or easily setup there…
[quote= blackangst] it *can* be done in ac with either sneak outs or picking up girls at skytrax or the mall, but its much easier in manila.[\quote]
i was looking for skytrax when i was in angeles but i kept thinking that it was full of working girls as opposed to “normal” girls so i never made it there but i will get there next time.
[quote= rubberyman]also, for those who are not fat unfit and fifties like me, then internet contacts can work out even cheaper.[\quote]
i posted a question about this in chat room thread. i’m really considering this as an option. i’m 26 and a bit athletic. i run cross-country but like i said in my post i’m worried about it being a waste of time. also i have to inform you that my wife is filipina and i don’t want it to get back to her.
Have you heard this story from a youngish Filipino, or from one of the old timers you can meet here and there?
The story I got is a black (irrelevant of course) airman on the base during the Clark hey day...they found her tucked away in the closet.
Improv....can save the day. If you stay at America, just say that you've heard the story and it all happend in room abc which happens to be on the other side of the hotel...blah, blah, blah.
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[QUOTE=Victorian]The story I've heard a few times is that it's one of the front rooms in America (I think first floor) and the ghost is a filipina who was killed by a tourist. There are stories about people staying in that room and "strange" things happening.
I was chatting to one of the guards once (I think in Clarkton, not America)and he told me he saw a ghost on the roof and another of the guards had also seen a ghost.
You're right, the filipinos are very superstitious and believe in lots of things from faith healers to extreme religious beliefs.
Ghost stories are fun. So many people have stories to tell. England is full of ghost stories. One good memory was a tourist ghost walk late at night in one of the old cities in England and the Japanese tourist (female!) wanting to hold my hand as she was scared by the guide's ghost stories. :)
Tempting to stay in that front room in America Hotel hoping to get a good ghost story of my own to tell :) Anyone know the room number of the "haunted room"? Was it 102?
I agree America is very good value. I've stayed in the front rooms before (not the "haunted" one and also a very big room at the back of America. The only problem is the front rooms can have a bit of traffic noise and you can get woken up early in the back rooms with the roosters and the close proximity of the local families.[/QUOTE]
I have stayed in America Hotel ... Yes the girls always talk about the "White lady" ... Thats what they call the ghost.
Some girls have actually been scared to come back to the hotel.
You will get a thousand different version of the story, but basically, a girl was supposely hacked up in one of the rooms and now roams the hotel seeking revenge.
[QUOTE=Dcand4]So what is the real deal about the American Hotel?[/QUOTE]
From what I remember there was a double homicide involving a bargirl and a German guy. It happened about 5 or 6 years ago I think.
[u]To Laylow3[/u] : If you are going to be a contributing member of this thread, please learn how to use the quote function!
Anybody from Chicagoland will remember this one
My balonge has a first name, its Oscar
It also has a second name, its Mayer
Balogne balogne and then those girls ride the balogne pony!!!
I was at Agasya last night. Very sweet and proper-looking waitress was trying to get me to barfine the dancers. There was one firecracker dancer, but I didn't take anyone.
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]I third that Ekspat.
Statements that only Koreans can barfine from Agasaya are outright porky pies.
I am not Korean or even look remotely Korean (unless there are fat white balding roundeyed Koreans that is).
I have barfined ladies from Agasaya - even when it has been relatively busy with Koreans in past visits. Never had any bad vibes from the place. However, this WAS the bar that I have had 'runners' from, so am a little cautious.
Rocksoff - you must have seen the same dancer as I did. She IS sizzling!
Mind you, the toilets in Agasaya are really substandard and out of character with the place.[/QUOTE]
Agasya and Las Vegas are both owned by a Korean. I had met him because the Girl who was running Agasya was a good friend of mine. Last nov when I went there she was pregnant and was leaving.
Here are the facts as i learned from her.
1. They hire only the young girls. You will never see anybody more than 23
there.
2. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have seen real ugly dancers there
also.
3. Girls are told to prefer Korean or Japanese because of the 3-3-3 deal.
4. I have barfined about 5 girls from there only after my friend talked
to the girl and made sure she is not a runner and have to give me two
Pops. Some girls have given me more and stayed with me all day.
One 18 year old girl even went with me to Subic.
5. My friend also told me many girls there are runners especially the pretty
ones.
6. Most of the girls in Agasya are barfined by 9 Pm or contracted to barfine.
Contracted means the management sometimes does not want to run out
dancing girls and will only allow barfine after 11PM. So if you want to
contract pay the barfine and pick up the girl at certain time.
Why anybody would do that is beyond me. It is like reserving a
drumstick in all you can eat place.
7. Many young girls are really scared of big dicks non asians have.
8. It is a usual ocurrance that agasya runs out of girls and brings in girls
from Las Vegas.
9. They like Koreans because they order whisky bottles at three or four
times the market price and run up a big bar bill.
10. My suggestion is barfine some waitresses there. Some are cute.
If you want to barfine a dancer make sure you talk to the girl and agree
on all thing you want. You can use the waitress as your translator as
many young girls do not speak english there.
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]I third that Ekspat.
Statements that only Koreans can barfine from Agasaya are outright porky pies.
I am not Korean or even look remotely Korean (unless there are fat white balding roundeyed Koreans that is).
I have barfined ladies from Agasaya - even when it has been relatively busy with Koreans in past visits. Never had any bad vibes from the place. However, this WAS the bar that I have had 'runners' from, so am a little cautious.
Rocksoff - you must have seen the same dancer as I did. She IS sizzling!
Mind you, the toilets in Agasaya are really substandard and out of character with the place.[/QUOTE]
...and I'm sure there's thousands more.
I also BF'd a girl out of Agsaya on my last trip in October. Not a runner, a serious cutie/sweetie who did her best to serve.
And apparently the only difference between Rubberyman and I is that he's fat and balding and I'm bald and fatting!
I don't remember the toilets being that bad... OK, I don't remember the toilets, at all!
It's obviously been too long! 29 more days...
Sammon, I agree with what you say about “contracting” a barfine, but it seems to be strangely common. Either by guys or, in some cases, by other bars to “top up the talent” for a particular event they may be having (like you say about Agsaya borrowing girls from Las Vegas). I was in Fire and Ice, last October, and four beauties came in but the never even got up on stage, just came to check in, because they’d already been barfined for a party at another bar (Blue Nile Exec, if I recall correctly).
The only reason I could think of contracting a girl would be in response to the same. If I was sitting with a “must have” hottie, and we were hitting it off, but she told me that she had been contracted for the night, I might consider contracting her for the next night.
Yeah, I know. That’s some pretty warped thinking.
maybe he meant the ONLY TRIP TO THAT BAR. What WI reported may be old news, but there is a large amount of information that supports the idea that some Korean business people discriminate.
I'm not fond of WI's negativity, but not sure if he's violated any of ISG rules.
And surely AV should be more generous considering his own history of (in my opinion) dubious information. That being said, AV has posted much more reliable and useful information (in my opinion) in the past year. It's unfortunate that he keeps that chip on his shoulder.
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WI -- you DO deserve criticism for your racist comments about Koreans. What is your nationality? Is your first language English? I'm American, btw.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Excuse me SIR, you are flooding the Philippines/Angeles City thread with OUTDATED disinformation. Opinions are tolerated, indeed welcomed but you are giving everybody the shits endlessly harping about something you clearly have no knowledge of.
"...my only trip was soon after they had opened"
Thank you Rubbery for catching this so quick.
Mod's please warn this guy.
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[QUOTE=Rubberyman]However, this WAS the bar that I have had 'runners' from, so am a little cautious.[/QUOTE]
My runners were from Lollipop .. I barfined two friends. Three days ago I had a fantastic time in the bar with one friend (tiny spinner with perky little titties) and a waitress with lovely soft white boobs for contrast. The spinner girly pointed out her friend to me and told me that they enjoy eating each other out. So OK, next time I decided I'd give them a shot. Tragically the friend, although she has bona fide puffies, just gave off a vibe that killed my buzz dead. So when she got that "urgent phone call" at midnight I was more relieved than disappointed.
However she wanted to take her little spinner friend with her. There's another story. Little spinner is made up to look like bar trash, but under the makeup you can see she's still young, and talking to her, there isn't much bullshit, just a simple girl. Apparently her first customer, not so long ago, hurt her. He's a tall young German body builder, she's maybe 35kg. Since then, she's only been going together with the friend. The friend is very protective and defensive and prickly. Eventually she agreed to leave the small one, who was very sweet, alone with me. (By the way, she called the cops on the German guy .. I didn't ask about the end of the story ..)
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Rocksoff - you must have seen the same dancer as I did. She IS sizzling![/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprized! She knocks the socks off the rest :-)
[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Mind you, the toilets in Agasaya are really substandard and out of character with the place.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I thought I was back in Sutthisan Road ;-)
[QUOTE=Rocksoff]..So when she got that "urgent phone call" at midnight I was more relieved than disappointed...
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Rocksoff:
great to read that you were relieved! Anyway, midnight is still early and so there is enough time to barfine one more girl for LT then! :)
Cheers!
Hesekiels
[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Two tits in the hands are worth 20 onstage.[/QUOTE]Truer words were never spoken.
By the way, I think Info is one of the 4chan guys profiled in this New York Times article:
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html[/url]