Cartagena Reports

First question for a prospective monger in Colombia is "How good is your Spanish? " I think Cartagena may be the best city for a non-spanish speaker (lots of tourists there w/o any Spanish) That being said, I would still go to Medellin as I think it's the best all-around city for P4P. (don't flame me all you Cali lovers, LOL) I'd recommend staying at the Mansion also so you have lots of wingmen to show you the best spots (sorry, meant the Mansion's new name, Casablanca).

As far as being an older guy, I'm 52 and have been to AC and IMHO the Philippines (or Pattaya) are much better for long term GFE than Colombia. The Colombian putas will not outright turn you down but don't except extended sessions like a 30 y/o guy might get. And don't except 1300 PI pesos for longtime like in AC. Read the reports of distinction for Medellin and Cartegena though and make up your own mind.

Colombia is a long way from AC but I think it's well worth the time and money. Although I love S. E. A. I need some variety. Colombia has classic Latina chicas, black and also Euro looking girls. Enjoy.

Reef

[QUOTE=Matius]I live in Angeles City, Philippines, which is a mongers paradise for $25 U.S. LT and literally hundreds of go go bars full of 18 year old plus girls.

But it has always been a plan of mine to visit Colombia, until just recently. Friends recently made a trip to this city and said finding girls was difficult (for the older guy), the prices very expensive, and just did not enjoy their trip at all. They were quoting prices in the hundreds of U.S. dollars and by the hour service.

I will of course read the board in detail before making any trip, but can anyone point me to a post that reflects the scene there and how one goes about having a successful trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone, Was my first time at CTG.

I stayed at the Hilton. (girl friendly with a charge for most people)., but made good friends with one of the front desk guys and waived the girl fee all my nights. Its a 30.00 USD fee per day if you bring a girl. However, you can bring back company there are no issues. (She needs to have an ID though, they hold at the front desk to make sure you are safe, when she leaves)

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Taxi's, I think are very affordable.

Conversion rate

- is better at Bank's (Bancolombia was over 1920 as opposed to hotel 1700. For 1 dollar) But I mainly used ATM anyways for there currency.

I used the list given by WT69 and most was extremely accurate. All the drivers posts and names where either not reachable or disconnected. But to be honest you don't need them anyways.

Taxis at the Hilton hotel charge the same prices as other taxis, unlike other cities. Where hotel taxis charge more. Its safer actually to use taxis from the hotel due to the fact they are there every day and its easier if you lose something inside.

Clubs Visited.

La Dulce Vita- Opens around 10-11pm. My advice is going at around 11:30pm. Walk inside look around to see if theres something, and then go out side and watch the girls coming in. The reason is that the light inside is horrible. You really need to get super close to see them. Also, the music is so loud that you can't hear well. Its nice to see what your approaching, so thats why I gave that suggestion. Time does make a difference. It doesn't get full until after 12:15-12:30am. Well at least on my days of visits. I talked to few there and took out 2 on different days. Prices range from 300,000 to 150,000 (2 hours). But I didn't pay more than 150,000. Negociations were pretty easy. Each night the quantity of women ranged for 20 to 40 women Qty. The club is upstairs next to a small casino called la perla. (the casino has a 1-2 and 5-10 game of holdem) if anyone likes to play. The women as for looks were nice, I wouldn't say there are any 10's. But there was a few 10 body's. I took out a girl named Sara the first night (from MDE) She had 8 face, 9 Body, and 10 in BED. Also GFE. Which for me is more important than most things. Some how took her cell number down wrong, and didn't get to see her again. Of all the clubs, this is probably my favorite.

Positives- easy to negociate. I prefer off site anyways, most popular place for the girls to show.

Negatives- Hours of operation, doesn't get started till super late, Loud, Dark, and a bit hard to find. But you find it once, then your good for the future.

Pleyboy Club (strip club) around 15 girls here when I visited

The prices were much higher here, and firmer. I want to say it was 240,000 for only 30 Minutes. Girls, were ok. No 10s there either. Maybe a a couple 9s. Girls were a bit colder here to me. But not rude. Anyways, chose not to pick up here or get phone numbers. But, I always recommend trying to get her number and working out a deal outside the club. (Its very common to do). THere are rooms at the club for on site action. But expensive as mentioned above. This place is even darker inside than LDV. Another negative. Well, worth visiting, I'm sure there are some more talent than what I saw. No Cover Charge in any of the Clubs I visited.

Liquezos Club (around 15 Girls Here when I visited)

No 9s or 10s, But a couple 8s. The talent level down a bit here. But then the prices as well. I want to say 150, 000 per hour. At the Entrance alot of light, nice to see the girls. I asked the friendliest girl for her phone number and made appointment for next day. She really liked me, we hung out the next day, and didn't even charge me anything. I just paid her cab ride. Which was like 6 dollars. This place has also the option of on premise or off premise. All the girls who work there live there, from what she told me.

After that I went to

Casa del Marino (A little far) But if you visit all 3 clubs its like doing a domino line. 5-7 minute drives one after the other.

I really liked the setup of the bar, the women were different. Singing, and pretty laid back. This place would be nice if closer to town and with more girls. I arrived around 12:00 am, like 9 girls there. No 9s or 10s, a couple 8s again. Anyways. Id say worth a visit. Maybe find a gem.

Isis Club (Pretty close to the Hard Rock Cafe in the Centro)

I liked this place, Small club. But always 10 girls+ starting early around 9:30 to 10 pm. The girls are shuttled over from some appartment building. Anyways, don't be afraid to negociate. She started at 260,000 for 2 Hours, Ended up at 160, 000 for 2 hours at my hotel. Same girls every nite. So security wise is good for customer. No freelancers. I like being able to pick up early and have my choice.

La Mission Club,

Didn't find this place until the last day. Nice inside, but I got there to early, only 2 girls here at the time. I'm sure it gets good later (I arrrived at 10pm) I'm sure 11pm would of been better. Also close to ISIS. Ask the police they tell you how to get to the club.

Personel Observations of Cartagena

- Centro is very nice area. For walking, shopping, dining, and Bars.

- Very Safe City, Police every where. And not tring to steal from you like in Costa Rica, or Mexico.

- Cartagena Women are darker skin, close to Dominican looking. However, most of the girls I took out were from Medellin. I prefer the lighter skin.

- Colombian women are easy to talk too. I think I picked up 3 girls just from walking around town.

- Casinos are very small and a joke compared to anything I'm used too.

- The beaches are a joke in CTG, its like dirt bike racing sand on the beaches. Ugly. But you can take a ferry to nice beaches.

- People very friendly, and speaking spanish is extremely helpful. Not sure how a gringo could do. But I think you can manage.

- Also, good city to take a girl friend., the archtecture is beautiful.

- I probably won't return, but I enjoyed Cartagena, Prefer Costa Rica, Quantity and Quality better. But CTG much safer than San Jose, and can see why it would appeal to many mongers. However, not enough pretty girls in the city for me.

Feel free to ask questions. If I missed something. All the best

Thanks for the help with info to everyone who emailed me.

Regards,

Ajordan

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you mention medellin mansion. i went last in 2008 stayed there a few nights. the idea is good, but to be honest. the owner likes the ****.

i don't really think we should be giving that place any pub. i don't condon any **** type exploitation. any they had **** girls there frequently upon my visit

hopefully hes changed, but i doubt it.

regards,

ajordan

[QUOTE=Malodr]Chicas go for about 100,000 to 150,000 a night and thats $50 to $75. They are everywhere.[/QUOTE]Perhaps in Cartagena, but in Bogota, Medellin, Cali TLN (all night) is more like 250'000 - 300'000 and they are not the prettiest ones.

[QUOTE=Kali22]Perhaps in Cartagena, but in Bogota, Medellin, Cali TLN (all night) is more like 250'000 - 300'000 and they are not the prettiest ones.[/QUOTE]Well, not really, it all depends on your negotiating, spanish, and schmoozing skills.

The better your skills, the lower you pay. Easy.

[QUOTE=Kali22]Perhaps in Cartagena, but in Bogota, Medellin, Cali TLN (all night) is more like 250'000 - 300'000 and they are not the prettiest ones.[/QUOTE]I never pay more than 100,000 in Medellin and usually I never sleep alone.

[quote=ajordan]you mention medellin mansion. i went last in 2008 stayed there a few nights. the idea is good, but to be honest. the owner likes the ****.

i don't really think we should be giving that place any pub. i don't condon any **** type exploitation. any they had **** girls there frequently upon my visit

hopefully hes changed, but i doubt it.

regards,

ajordan[/quote]bullshit. i have been to the mansion several times and never ever saw any **** girls. as a matter of fact they are strict as hell when it comes to checking the cedulas of girls coming into the mansion.

i don't know what your agenda is here pal but accusing someone of getting involved with **** girls is a strong accusation and shouldn't be taken lightly. if i was jackson i would be sending you packing.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Well, not really, it all depends on your negotiating, spanish, and schmoozing skills.

The better your skills, the lower you pay. Easy.[/QUOTE]Yeah for sure. It also happens that I pay nothing (with non pros).

The thing is you can get a girl in a cheap casa, make her like you and then see her for a TLN for 100'000 pesos all right. Even for nothing if you dine and wine her and seduce her.

But I dunno. I just haven't found any casa girl that I would like to do a TLN with. (especially when I think that she might have fucked 20 men the same day. BTW, I don't understand how guys can boast here about performing DATY or licking the ass of these girls. Don't they know there's a great variety of nasty sexually transmitted diseases? Well it's just my imagination I guess. I personally won't even kiss a prostitute except if she's really really special to me and look very clean).

Then you can try the more expensive massage parlours and strip clubs but the girls are not much more classy there in my opinion and for me, it's a pain to wine and dine them except if I really feel a chemistry with an intelligent and cool girl. And it hasn't happenned so much in Colombia (much more in Brazil). Then again you can get these girls for cheap if they like you.

What I was talking about is the very beautiful girls, for example from Fase 2 in Medellin (HB8-9) or some of the websites, that you will see for the first time who usually ask for 250'000 or 300'000 for an hour at your apartment.

I'm not saying you can't do cheaper than that for this level of beauty but don't expect too much on it.

There are exceptions of course like I've just had one a few days ago, I've had a TLN for 150'000 COP from a girl who is an extremely sexy and beautiful model (I saw her in a call girl catalog) and she usually goes for 800'000 COP an hour. But that was luck and that was after I seduced her the whole evening out in town and then teased her like a madman in her car for an hour before she accepted to drive me to my place and fuck my brains out.

Then of course, the guys who lives in a town for a long time will get more connections and they will have numbers of pretty girls spending TLN for 100'000 COP. But I still don't think they will be the very beautiful ones except if they really like the guy.

Just my 2 cents.

But you guys who can get TLN with beautiful pro girls for 100'000 COP the first time you meet them could just tell the rest of us how you do it.

(though I'm aware this is perhaps less difficult in Cartagena where you have more of a semi-pro culture in the clubs)

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[QUOTE=Kali22]But you guys who can get TLN with beautiful pro girls for 100'000 COP the first time you meet them could just tell the rest of us how you do it.

(though I'm aware this is perhaps less difficult in Cartagena where you have more of a semi-pro culture in the clubs)[/QUOTE]Well, I think you answered your own question actually.

It takes chemestry and the ability to get her to dig ya. Simple.

Cartagena, Medellin, Cali, wherever. Makes no difference.

Some chicas are unbreakable, but don't want to be with that hardened type anyway, no matter how pretty.

Some guys don't care about schmoozing or can't, so they just break out the cash. That's cool too.

Whatever works for you.

[quote=manizales911]bullshit. i have been to the mansion several times and never ever saw any **** girls. as a matter of fact they are strict as hell when it comes to checking the cedulas of girls coming into the mansion.

i don't know what your agenda is here pal but accusing someone of getting involved with **** girls is a strong accusation and shouldn't be taken lightly. if i was jackson i would be sending you packing.[/quote]actually it depends on what **** is for you. i know the guys at the mansion. i hung with them on my first trip to medellin back in 2006. they were hanging out with 3- 17 year olds. legal age in the us is 18. legal age for the colombians is 16 i believe.

i'll keep my opinions to myself on this but the guys at the mansion never did nor encouraged anything illegal when i went. they only chose to enjoy themselves within the law.

i agree somewhat with manizales911 here. make sure you have your facts in order. these guys make their living by their reputations and as far as i can tell, they have done nothing to deserve an attack.

[QUOTE=Ricker]It takes chemestry and the ability to get her to dig ya. Simple.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I got your point.

But what I'm asking is where not how.

Where would you find a pro and seduce her and bargain with her for a TLN the first time you meet her?

You're not going to go to a casa to seduce a girl without fucking her and convince her to spend the night with you. You just can't do that.

So it's got to be with one of these girls in the casas you already had sex with and who liked you (or in the strip clubs. But come on. Which chick in Fase 2 will spend the night with you for 100'000 COP the first time you meet her? LOL).

So it leaves the cheap strip clubs or Mayorista girls in Medellin with skanky girls. That's cool and you might find a gem (although I doubt I will.) but I'm still thinking that a guy who comes for a 2 weeks holidays and wants TLN with different girls (that he meets for the first time and are not cheap casa girls) will have to pay about 300'000 COP from Lindas chicas (and they are not that beautiful. Almost all of them have kids and you can see that on their bodies.)

Or about 200'000-300'000 COP from the websites and this will be for about 90 minutes.

Or perhaps in a club in Cartagena where you have free lance girls. You don't have freelance clubs in the rest of Colombia (to my knowledge).

So what I'm talking about more or less is the market price for TLN (which is a very rare thing in Colombia: just read Loso69 final report on Medellin and you will get the deal

[url]http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=913513&postcount=2682[/url]), not how a guy is able to get the exception with a lot of work and luck (after seeing the girls a few times).

A guy who live in the Philippines, Matius, asked about prices for girls in Colombia. Malodr answered this:

"Chicas go for about 100, 000 to 150, 000 a night and thats $50 to $75. They are everywhere. "

Well, after a few months in Colombia, I think that this kind of information is not accurate at all (to be polite) so I'm exposing my point of view on the matter. It's one thing to brag about how cheap you are able to pay (I'd love to see the pics though.), it's another one to try and give honest info to other members about mongering ease and market prices.

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[quote=fabone]actually it depends on what **** is for you. i know the guys at the mansion. i hung with them on my first trip to medellin back in 2006. they were hanging out with 3- 17 year olds. legal age in the us is 18. legal age for the colombians is 16 i believe.

i'll keep my opinions to myself on this but the guys at the mansion never did nor encouraged anything illegal when i went. they only chose to enjoy themselves within the law.

i agree somewhat with manizales911 here. make sure you have your facts in order. these guys make their living by their reputations and as far as i can tell, they have done nothing to deserve an attack.[/quote]in all due respect fabone, i have hung with greg and the crew too and never once did i see any **** (under 18) girls with them or anyone else. how do you know they were under 18,i am sure they didn't tell you that they were 17.

greg, please weigh in on this before it gets out of hand and turns into an ugly monster.

[QUOTE=Kali22]Yeah, I got your point.

But what I'm asking is where not how.

Where would you find a pro and seduce her and bargain with her for a TLN the first time you meet her?

You're not going to go to a casa to seduce a girl without fucking her and convince her to spend the night with you. You just can't do that.

So it's got to be with one of these girls in the casas you already had sex with and who liked you (or in the strip clubs. But come on. Which chick in Fase 2 will spend the night with you for 100'000 COP the first time you meet her? LOL).

So it leaves the cheap strip clubs or Mayorista girls in Medellin with skanky girls. That's cool and you might find a gem (although I doubt I will.) but I'm still thinking that a guy who comes for a 2 weeks holidays and wants TLN with different girls (that he meets for the first time and are not cheap casa girls) will have to pay about 300'000 COP from Lindas chicas (and they are not that beautiful. Almost all of them have kids and you can see that on their bodies.)

Or about 200'000-300'000 COP from the websites and this will be for about 90 minutes.

Or perhaps in a club in Cartagena where you have free lance girls. You don't have freelance clubs in the rest of Colombia (to my knowledge).

So what I'm talking about more or less is the market price for TLN (which is a very rare thing in Colombia: just read Loso69 final report on Medellin and you will get the deal

[url]http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=913513&postcount=2682[/url]), not how a guy is able to get the exception with a lot of work and luck (after seeing the girls a few times).

A guy who live in the Philippines, Matius, asked about prices for girls in Colombia. Malodr answered this:

"Chicas go for about 100, 000 to 150, 000 a night and thats $50 to $75. They are everywhere. "

Well, after a few months in Colombia, I think that this kind of information is not accurate at all (to be polite) so I'm exposing my point of view on the matter. It's one thing to brag about how cheap you are able to pay (I'd love to see the pics though.), it's another one to try and give honest info to other members about mongering ease and market prices.

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To wrap this up I am not a Romeo, so If I can get it then so can you also.

thanks to all for your advice and accepting my intrusion onto your board. primarily what i take away from your advice, is that unless one either lives in colombia or a very frequent visitor having built friends, then getting beauties is either very expensive, even for a short time, and/or requires one to have a friend to guide him. so not as easy or cheap as in angeles. but aside from the **** question that arose, the mansion seems to be recommended as a good place to start one's first trip, as the staff are keen to guide a newbie on their journey. through the photo's section, i see frequent posting from the mansion (and think there is another one of similar facilities), and if the guy is as cool as he appears, think i will start there.

again, thanks for your time, and will read the board in detail before making my first trip.

[QUOTE=Delta Pilot1]With all due respect Manizales, you really do not know, as I am sure you did not check there cedulas. On the other hand, Fabone has posted FIRST HAND information.

Are you such an expert on age, that you can distinguish a 18, 19, or 20 year old from a 16 or 17 year old, or even some 15 year olds without checking identification?. Because you "hung" with Aussie Greg and crew, does this make you an expert on what goes on in there decision making process and what they do in there lives?

The bottom line is, you do not know anything at all when it comes to this subject, unless you were checking cedulas. There is also no need to be calling out to Greg, like a child calls for there mommy, as Fabone already shared FACTUAL information, and he did it in a very articulate way.

The lesson to be learned is if in doubt about the age of a girl, check there cedulas. If you feel minors are in the company of people you are hanging with, and you disapprove of it, leave.[/QUOTE]First, I called out to Greg because he is being accused of something very serious here,I don't consider that "calling for mommy".

Fabones info is as factual as a romance novel,just a bunch of fiction.

I have been to the Mansion a bunch of times and the security guard checks the cedulas of every girl before she is allowed to enter and I ALWAYS check a girls cedula before doing the deed. When I go to the Mansion I try to go with three girls per day,after several trips of durations of six to eighteen days I have sampled dozens of girls there including the ones that cling to Greg and others and have yet to see a girl under eighteen,they are not allowed in the place,PERIOD.

Delta pilot you should take your three posts and go troll somewhere else.