Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;1986319]Yeah, forgot to say, no action, and if they did you would need a paper bag over her head, or at least for the bait and switch, AFTER they have you money, at which point English disappears as does any refund. A rip-off joint with mad, uglies.[/QUOTE]On another message board site, the mamasan of Analisa finally admitted after dodging a clear answer through several exchanges that there is (or was) apparently only one girl in the shop who will consent to giving a BBBJ to a CIM finish. Otherwise, only CBJ is on offer. And with that lone provider the customer needs to clear it with her before agreeing to a session, pay fully for and submit to a regular massage session and then "tip" her an additional 800 baht for this extraordinary extra special unparalled "BJ" treat.

This, despite the fact that I believe they pitch something called a "BJ Package", "BJ Treatment" or something like that in their menu.

Why in the world anyone wanting a BJ would go through all that at Analisa instead of walking about 10 seconds past that shop to get a no hassle genuine BBBJ+CIM from a cute young girl in Kasalong Bar or L0lita's for 800 baht all in is a mystery that no one at Analisa seems very interested in investigating or solving.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;1986223]After a good time in Pattaya its time to head back to Vienna, so I thought I'd give this place a go.

They switched the girl I chose. The girl that appeared was so ugly she could be modern art masterpiece. A really jaded out bar hag. The mode is fully clothed, machine gun jerking on manhood within about 60 seconds, then after a few minutes (me indicating to slow down) a suillen "why you no come yet" then disgustedly in Thai to girl next door "Farang Nogn" and something else presumably derogatoort. Her answer to the "slow down" was without warning try and stick in a giant toy, getting the spot wrong and trying to tear delicate flesh. Rough as guts Oh, and the best part. No condoms so as to maximise STD risk. Truly one of the worst ever experiences.

After about 10 minutes, I abort, unfinished. Politely complain. The mamasan and some sphinx like Asian droid, presumably the owner, were as rude as you can imagine, apparently having lost her perfect English from 10 minutes ago. So I indicate with rapid finger snapping and hands doing the "slow down" to convey they rushed service. Girl from upstairs now turns up yelling some crap and saying phuck a lot. Mamasan casually told me to phuck my mother and family, to which I replied, "Is your mom upstairs, you could join her" to which she lost it and threw a glass that just missed me and shattered on the wall (lucky no the sliding door). Boss man's face still impassive. She then says get out and I laughed at them, saying "you don't think I take you seriously, if your English has recovered". Laughing at them really did it, they chased me up the street, me breaking out some dance poses and mocking them (I run 10 miles day and am fast). This scene of course scared off some waiting punters, typical Thai style of cutting of nose to save face and resulting negative publicity. They really don't think beyond the moment.

Anyway, avoid this place unlees you want STD's, stitches and machine gun style service with an extremely rushed and jaded old hag. I've used Snow White, Mango, Pinks, places in Hamburg, Philippines and other places for decades with nothing like this. Tell your friends. Avoid at all costs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Phallus, this place definitely will not ever see one cent of my business ever!

I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.

[QUOTE=Jw3892;1986808]I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.[/QUOTE]I recommend Koh Adang for beautiful tropical fish and corals and nature, not too many people. Ha Ha. Now more seriously, we cannot know what you are looking for and how you want to spend your time. Like what your priorities are. We don't even know if it is mainly a fucking holiday or mainly a tourist holiday. What sort of girls do you like, and how do you want to choose and interact with them. Surely you have been reading here and have read many different styles of going looking for girls.

What I do recommend is not to book all your hotels for the whole holiday. Book the first night or two, okay And then see what happens. Keep the whole thing flexible. Try things, and leave quickly if you don't like them.

Pattaya has the most concentrated setup for sex. Don't go there for other reasons.
Patong Beech Phuket is a much nicer beech area than Pattaya, and sex mongering is available, but not as versatile as Bangkok and Pattaya.
Bangkok has good variety of sex joints and other touristy options.

You can try them all, however if beautiful beeches are of no interest, skip Phuket. For diving you can travel somewhere interesting from Phuket, but Phuket itself is not that special.

[QUOTE=Jw3892;1986808]I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.[/QUOTE]My recommendation would be to splitting time between Pattaya and Bangkok rather than Phuket, with more time in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1986391]On another message board site, the mamasan of Analisa finally admitted after dodging a clear answer through several exchanges that there is (or was) apparently only one girl in the shop who will consent to giving a BBBJ to a CIM finish. Otherwise, only CBJ is on offer. And with that lone provider the customer needs to clear it with her before agreeing to a session, pay fully for and submit to a regular massage session and then "tip" her an additional 800 baht for this extraordinary extra special unparalled "BJ" treat.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the "tip" off about the rip off. Fortunately never ventured the back ways of Soi 6 and hence never even found Kasalong. When hot ass Anne was not in Lolytas any more, I simply went somewhere else not close by. Other girls there were not hot enough. Of course I would have fallen for the Analisa mistake if I happened to meet a stunner outside the shop. I could be sucked in anywhere by stunners. LOL Otherwise, why bother?

Can't recall my last CBJ in Thailand, was so long ago. Is this really getting common? I am guessing most girls trust me, not to pop in their mouth if they don't take that sort of thing. I rarely do CIM anyway. I did have one CBJ this year in another country (I think. The memory get hazy of non exciting things) and only because she was a stunning model with big naturals (called Nastia LOL).

Any really experienced P4 P girl will know when you are about to pop and can avoid CIM (or CIP) if she wants to, so I don't really understand why CBJs. I am sure it is not a pregnancy thing. LOL. Cleanliness? Thrush? Okay Catching Chlamydia is possible, but fairly unlikely. Rates of new HIV cases in Thailand are way down compared to 25 years ago (Orally probably non existent).

Germany is intending to outlaw paying money for BBBJ, or for any liason including BBBJ. Again I have no clue what they think they will achieve.

I always stop in PI before and after I go to BKK. Even if it's only a one-night layover. Like others have said go to Patts but do see Bangkok first. Sukhumvit area or Silom area. Phuket is great location for scenery / beaches south of Patong and probably diving (I'm not a diver) but a little more expensive. If you stop in Manila go to Burgos Street in Makati and / or LA Cafe in Malate. Perhaps a side trip up to Angeles City for a night or two if you have time. Read the forums for each city to get all the details.

[QUOTE=Jw3892;1986808]I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1987031]Thanks for the "tip" off about the rip off. Fortunately never ventured the back ways of Soi 6 and hence never even found Kasalong. When hot ass Anne was not in Lolytas any more, I simply went somewhere else not close by. Other girls there were not hot enough.[/QUOTE]I believe the best looking line up at any of the Bangkok BJ Bars these days is the day shift at Kasalong Bar, until about 6 PM when the day shift changes to the night shift. I would say there are at least 3-4 girls working there during the daytime that one might not even believe work in a BJ Bar if you saw them walking around in regular street clothes away from the bar, because they are far more attractive than the kind of girl one usually associates with a BJ Bar. Just my humble opinion, of course.

If you walk by most days between, say, 11 am and 6 pm and don't see a couple of lookers (not talking about true stunners, mind you, just among the best looking for this kind of venue) worth gobbling your knob for just 800 baht or spending more time in a ST room for FS or whatever for 1,700 baht then it is probably because another customer is already keeping them busy inside and up the stairs and only the "ordinary" looking girls are still sitting outside.

It is definitely a mongering trip although will do a little sightseeing. Would like to make it to the beach but not a must. Thanks for the suggestions.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1986924]I recommend Koh Adang for beautiful tropical fish and corals and nature, not too many people. Ha Ha. Now more seriously, we cannot know what you are looking for and how you want to spend your time. Like what your priorities are. We don't even know if it is mainly a fucking holiday or mainly a tourist holiday. What sort of girls do you like, and how do you want to choose and interact with them. Surely you have been reading here and have read many different styles of going looking for girls.

What I do recommend is not to book all your hotels for the whole holiday. Book the first night or two, okay And then see what happens. Keep the whole thing flexible. Try things, and leave quickly if you don't like them.

Pattaya has the most concentrated setup for sex. Don't go there for other reasons.
Patong Beech Phuket is a much nicer beech area than Pattaya, and sex mongering is available, but not as versatile as Bangkok and Pattaya.
Bangkok has good variety of sex joints and other touristy options.

You can try them all, however if beautiful beeches are of no interest, skip Phuket. For diving you can travel somewhere interesting from Phuket, but Phuket itself is not that special.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1987167]I believe the best looking line up at any of the Bangkok BJ Bars these days is the day shift at Kasalong Bar, until about 6 PM when the day shift changes to the night shift. I would say there are at least 3-4 girls working there during the daytime that one might not even believe work in a BJ Bar if you saw them walking around in regular street clothes away from the bar, because they are far more attractive than the kind of girl one usually associates with a BJ Bar. Just my humble opinion, of course.
[/QUOTE]Based on recent reports, Soms (Soi 14) has the hottest lineup these days. I will confirm when I visit next month.

~BKKguru.

[QUOTE=BKKguru;1987271]Based on recent reports, Soms (Soi 14) has the hottest lineup these days. I will confirm when I visit next month.

~BKKguru.[/QUOTE]Passed by there the other day and decided to have a look. Was late afternoon. About 5 gals outside; not a single one of them attractive. Will circle back by in the next few days for another look.

[QUOTE=BKKguru;1987271]Based on recent reports, Soms (Soi 14) has the hottest lineup these days. I will confirm when I visit next month.

~BKKguru.[/QUOTE]The last time I went to Som's Haven, about a month ago, there were 2-3 young-ish girls I thought were genuinely good looking or cute. Certainly good looking or cute enough to justify the time, the money and the ejaculation. But these things can change nightly, if not hourly. Seems to me there is a bit more leeway about the girls' required presence at these BJ Bars of late. Some show up when they want. Or maybe they are being barfined out for long time early in the shift, perhaps even for multiple days.

It would not be unreasonable to conclude that in Thailand's P4P venue scene today a better than average/good looking girl who knows how to give a genuinely good or better blowjob to a real CIM finish, and does it for her customers with focused determination, could pretty much write her own ticket for where she works, when she works and the management simply has to go along with it, happy to have her whenever she feels like showing up.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1987353]The last time I went to Som's Haven, about a month ago, there were 2-3 young-ish girls I thought were genuinely good looking or cute. Certainly good looking or cute enough to justify the time, the money and the ejaculation. But these things can change nightly, if not hourly. Seems to me there is a bit more leeway about the girls' required presence at these BJ Bars of late. Some show up when they want. Or maybe they are being barfined out for long time early in the shift, perhaps even for multiple days.

It would not be unreasonable to conclude that in Thailand's P4P venue scene today a better than average/good looking girl who knows how to give a genuinely good or better blowjob to a real CIM finish, and does it for her customers with focused determination, could pretty much write her own ticket for where she works, when she works and the management simply has to go along with it, happy to have her whenever she feels like showing up.[/QUOTE]It is very strange that some establishments have very strict rules, where if a girl leaves the employ, she will never be allowed to return, unless she pays a huge payout figure. The establishment will try to blacklist her. Girls are of course banned from seeing the customers privately, and so settling down with a customer also has a large permanent takeout fee. Why girls submit to these arrangements is a big mystery. There can be a lot of rules in contract the girl agrees to. Perhaps some establishments let girls do as they please, I don't know. Certainly the more stunning girls of Crazy House, are freelance, have no salary, and turn up when and if they please.

One girl meeting me, had to very careful not to be seen with me elsewhere, since I used to be her customer. Also once she was supposed to be someone's girlfriend after retiring, she needed to avoid gossip as well. So still has to see me in big secret.

I hear that BeerGarden in Soi 7, my favorite afternoon venue have closed down.

For my upcoming visit, is there any info if the BeerGarden WGs have set up office somewhere else?

[QUOTE=PPierre;1987458]I hear that BeerGarden in Soi 7, my favorite afternoon venue have closed down.

For my upcoming visit, is there any info if the BeerGarden WGs have set up office somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Latest intel I got from a long time regular Beer Garden FL is that it will close for 3-4 months IN about a month (still open today) and then re-open after remodeling and upgrading has been done. Hopefully, that means at least air conditioning in the joint.

This was as of 3-4 days ago and from a FL there who ought to know but who could also be utterly clueless about the facts.