Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2462407]I have a question. There are some young looking girls out and about. I know the age of consent is lower in Colombia (14, I believe), but isn't prostitution still 18? I've seen some freelancer youngsters, in the past, but I noticed one or two today that seemed to be hanging out right in the thick of it..[/QUOTE]I have met more chics that are pregnant here in Colombia than I care to mention. So let that be a notice that they are having sex. On the other hand, remember to follow the American law of the girl being 18 years old or older. My girlfriend has given me a glimpse into the Vennie world that many may not see. These girls are prison time for foreigners and seen as a way of becoming a woman for Latin women in this culture. My girlfriend has been living with me for over 2 months and I can tell you that her son is also young and since others know that he is now living with a Gringo, he has been accused of being the father of about 7 babies by women who are up to 10 years his senior.

Many of these girls and their mothers are opportunistic, they will do anything to extort a gringo if the opportunity is there. If I give you no more advice, allow me to give you this, obey the American laws if you are a foreigner, the stigma attached to anything of the such is so horrible that even if you are not guilty of anything your fight to return to normal would be so expensive and embarrassing that the chances that you may be taking are just not worth it, don't do it. The amount of 18 yr old and older chics in this country is so plentiful that doing anything that goes against 18 yrs and older is plain stupid. If this country's men like chics, allow them to do what is normal for them, and you do what you know is legal for your, 18 and older! Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2462682]Greece definitely sucked for mongering but is a foodie paradise, nothing like a Greek Salad and some fresh Sea Bream.[/QUOTE]As I said, I have been going to Greek Islands EVERY SUMMER of the last 30 years for my summer holidays. Food is great, and there's much more than what we eat in Greek restaurants in USA or in Europe.

In "my" island (Amorgos, I bet 99.999% of those who will read this does not even know where it is), there's plenty of small traditional family tavernas where to eat fish of the day, goat, traditional dishes, "ola sta karvouna" ("all on the charcoal") grilled meat and fish, YUMMMMYYYY. Few people, mostly couples, zero mongering, lonely cultivated fields dry for the summer, steep mountains, crystal blue sea: it's true paradise for me.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2462682]In regards to your remarks about the virus, I doubt any members of this board would be mongering if they even suspected they had the virus, yet can easily see lot's of the hookers, especially those that ply El Centro knowingly going with guys while they have symptoms if not severe. And this goes back to your statement, "the virus rules" and getting sick away from home, and how treatment might be.[/QUOTE]We have read people here taking crowded buses as it was nothing. Going with a girl is a Russian Roulette, ok we all are less cautious when moved by pussy, but diving into crowd pushing left and right is more like a suicide.

About getting sick far from home, I tried to imagine and it's much worse than risking to not be treated adequately.
How to be isolated for 1 or 2 months? Where? Hotel? Rented apartment? Just this expense will raise much above the amount planned initially (which was deemed affordable).
Then, who buys food and medicines and everything for 1-2 months? Will the insurance (assuming the wise traveller has a good insurance) assist also for this?
Alone without any friend and family to help in Colombia or anywhere far from home?
If getting sick of COVID in my country is a nightmare already, I cannot imagine what ordeal it would be 10,000 km away from my home.

I read with greatest sympathy and participation the posts of Balboa and of others who found themselves sick in Colombia. Good to know that it does not seem bad, but it's like walking on a steel blade. All my best wishes guys. Be strong and careful.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2462726]She was asking about the coronavirus. Told me people were telling her it's a hoax.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I bet the official numbers are just the tip of an iceberg. Low-class people is used to get colds and forget. This is just a cold for them, and so it will be until the spreading will be so massive that it cannot be ignored, because hospitals will be full and too many people will be dying or suffering. In the background, the virus spreads silently. The bad of exponential curves, it does not matter how slow, even x1.01 every day, is that the number keeps small for a long time, but when it starts rising to the point to be noticed it's like an explosion, impossible to control.

You may not have gotten it from the girl.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2462716]Well I'm going to admit it, I'm stuck here in the USA and was playing Russian roulette as you say with a couple younger girls here, them being in their early 20's.

I got into a good routine with one of them and we were seeing each other often with really good GFE sex.

A couple weeks ago I started to feel the symptoms of getting a cold.

Sore throat, etc, however, also very fatigued like I've never been.

I thought, uh oh, and got tested.

Came out Positive.

So of course I went into self isolation.

Contacted whomever I had been in contact with recently to let them know, and surprisingly no one else came up sick nor tested Positive.

My little honey here felt bad, and she tested Positive, and isolated as well, never having any symptoms at all.

I remember and believe a long kiss she gave me passed me the virus.

At least that's my guess, but really could have been anything, we were in pretty close contact frequently..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2462709]You would think possibly having a negative test in the last 72 hours to present at immigration (or actually get on the plane) to enter the country would be safer, no matter where you are from.

Numbers are going to spike in Europe, just as they have everywhere else. And it will happen long before September 1.[/QUOTE]Negative test does not mean you don't have it. You can have it and it just hasn't got to the level of detection yet. So that's whey tests alone are not cutting it.

Two negative tests maybe 5 days apart. One before you leave, then one after 5 days of quarantine. May work. But countries are not generally going that route because of the cost and basically it kills tourism anyway.

And as for numbers spiking. It's still basic biology of the virus. If you can keep people from literally breathing on each other (I. E. 6 ft plus), wear masks, and wash hands always before touching face. The virus will not spread and there will be no spike. That has not changed since this thing started, and countries / places that get people to cooperate with this have a declining rate of infection, or in some cases no active cases. I'm not in Europe so can't observe what people are doing, but my impression is that Europeans are observing those things to a much much higher level than in the USA.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2462894]Negative test does not mean you don't have it. You can have it and it just hasn't got to the level of detection yet. So that's whey tests alone are not cutting it.

Two negative tests maybe 5 days apart. One before you leave, then one after 5 days of quarantine. May work. But countries are not generally going that route because of the cost and basically it kills tourism anyway.

And as for numbers spiking. It's still basic biology of the virus. If you can keep people from literally breathing on each other (I. E. 6 ft plus), wear masks, and wash hands always before touching face. The virus will not spread and there will be no spike. That has not changed since this thing started, and countries / places that get people to cooperate with this have a declining rate of infection, or in some cases no active cases. I'm not in Europe so can't observe what people are doing, but my impression is that Europeans are observing those things to a much much higher level than in the USA.[/QUOTE]Who knows what to believe anymore with the corona-virus, just so much difference in the severity of symptoms given your age and any preexisting conditions, dare I say that this is more worrisome than even contracting HIV? At least with the later virus your not dead in a few weeks if your over 60 and have some other health conditions, just saying. I guess it's pick your poison dilemma.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2462894]And as for numbers spiking. It's still basic biology of the virus. If you can keep people from literally breathing on each other (I. E. 6 ft plus), wear masks, and wash hands always before touching face. The virus will not spread and there will be no spike. That has not changed since this thing started, and countries / places that get people to cooperate with this have a declining rate of infection, or in some cases no active cases. I'm not in Europe so can't observe what people are doing, but my impression is that Europeans are observing those things to a much much higher level than in the USA.[/QUOTE]This especially applies to Germany, a country that had a rough go for a while but turned it around most impressively. Scroll down and check the graphs.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/[/URL]

Americans do a lot of things very well, but pandemics isn't one of them. For afterall, masks are "unconstitutional". Here by the way are two studies, one from April, and the other very recent on the efficiency of cloth masks. Yes, they do shorten the distance that the effects of coughs and sneezes / droplets & aerosols spread. But not all cloth masks are created equal. Tighter weaves and double layers are superior, and even better is quilted versions.

[URL]https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsnano.0c03252[/URL]

[URL]https://www.livescience.com/face-mask-visualization-droplets-covid-19.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2462733]Your very fortunate, as it's totally unpredictable how you may fare getting the virus, and older guys and those with underlying conditions have a much higher risk of complications.[/QUOTE]Well yes, I realize that.

I feel fortunate having recovered fairly easy and I don't recommend the virus to anyone (obviously).
Like you said, its very unpredictable how it will affect each individual.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2462866]You may not have gotten it from the girl.[/QUOTE]Well that's true, so hard to tell.

However, with her testing positive, and me not really socializing much at all, besides hanging with her, chances are I did get it from her.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2462760]Sorry to hear that you got infected, I'm glad that you recovered. The way you got infected is infinitely better than getting it from buying coffee from Starbucks.[/QUOTE]Haha well that's true, and thanks!

When the girl that I believe gave it to me said Sorry to me, I told her jokingly that I’d do it all over again for her Kiss.

All joking aside though, even though I've recovered, it still wasn't an enjoyable ride, and I had that fear that it could have taken a turn for the worse.

So unpredictable.

I actually have been pretty careful in general, not socializing really, wearing a mask, keeping clean and sanitized, even seeing this apparently healthy girl.

My weakness for a sexy and pretty girl got me I suppose.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2462965] My weakness for a sexy and pretty girl got me I suppose.[/QUOTE]No supposition on this one, and it's a dilemma for all of us, because who can turn a blind eye to an available and pretty / sexy girl.

Well said.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2462789]Man,

Getting covid should be the last thing a monger care about, rationally, the amount of other risks involved in mongering in Medellin, especially in el centro, is much more severe both in terms of degree and likelihood. To corroborate my point, here is a short list:

Getting basic STDs.

Overdose on drugs.

Getting a girl pregnant.

Getting robbed.

Getting someone who is under age using a fake ID.

Getting blackmailed.

Getting hit by innocent boyfriend who doesn't know their girl is working.

The girl steals from you.

The girl drugs you.

The girl works with cops to extort you.

Just to name a few. Anyone of those will have a chance to make your life worse than having covid.[/QUOTE]

Overdose on drugs?

Anyway, yes, there is room for doubt since even recognized experts don't agree completely about transmission vectors. If it's true that you can catch coronavirus from droplets in the air from as much as 2 meters distance, that would mean you are as likely to catch it with a Centro girl as you are passing a nun on the street. More than anything I am holding out hope for a vaccine and effective treatments. Without those, the world economy will deteriorate more than it did in the late 1930's. That would lead to all sorts of health and social problems. We don't want that.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2462789]Man,

Getting covid should be the last thing a monger care about, rationally, the amount of other risks involved in mongering in Medellin, especially in el centro, is much more severe both in terms of degree and likelihood. To corroborate my point, here is a short list:

Getting basic STDs.

Overdose on drugs.

Getting a girl pregnant.

Getting robbed.

Getting someone who is under age using a fake ID.

Getting blackmailed.

Getting hit by innocent boyfriend who doesn't know their girl is working.

The girl steals from you.

The girl drugs you.

The girl works with cops to extort you.

Just to name a few. Anyone of those will have a chance to make your life worse than having covid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2462789]Getting covid should be the last thing a monger care about, rationally, the amount of other risks involved in mongering in Medellin, especially in el centro, is much more severe both in terms of degree and likelihood. To corroborate my point, here is a short list:
...
Just to name a few. Anyone of those will have a chance to make your life worse than having covid.[/QUOTE]Maybe. Of course, COVID could kill you too.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2462789]Man,

Getting covid should be the last thing a monger care about, rationally, the amount of other risks involved in mongering in Medellin, especially in el centro, is much more severe both in terms of degree and likelihood. To corroborate my point, here is a short list:

Getting basic STDs.

Overdose on drugs.

Getting a girl pregnant.

Getting robbed.

Getting someone who is under age using a fake ID.

Getting blackmailed.[/QUOTE]All due respect, but nothing on your list is really "life threatening" like COVID can be, and a smart and experienced monger can avoid the items you listed as occurring, or lessen the impact of them if they were to occur by taking pre-cautionary measures like wearing a condom or carrying little money or anything of value while in El Centro. I don't consider any of your items as having the potential of being worse than having COVID because of it's "unpredictability" how someone may fare.

This is a rough topic for everyone right now, with lot's of differing views depending on how much risk somebody wants to take.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2462789]Man,

Getting covid should be the last thing a monger care about, rationally, the amount of other risks involved in mongering in Medellin, especially in el centro, is much more severe both in terms of degree and likelihood. To corroborate my point, here is a short list:

Getting basic STDs.

Overdose on drugs.

Getting a girl pregnant.

Getting robbed.

Getting someone who is under age using a fake ID.

Getting blackmailed.

Getting hit by innocent boyfriend who doesn't know their girl is working.

The girl steals from you.

The girl drugs you.

The girl works with cops to extort you.

Just to name a few. Anyone of those will have a chance to make your life worse than having covid.[/QUOTE]The only difference is:

I can mostly control getting STD's and most go away with antibiotics within days. I can control not getting an overdose or pregnancy. I can control a robbery situation if I only see chicas at my airbnb with security. Same goes for fake ID and getting drugged. Basically everything on this list can be mitigated or completely controlled with common sense. Covid cannot.