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The Cups
[QUOTE=DCups;1608218]Hi Dg, if I ever got married and had a kid no way would I bring them back to USA The USA Culture would spoil them both rotten. I've seen it happen to too many of my friends who have foreign wives and brought them here. Other thoughts?[/QUOTE]You have a good point. At my age, statistically I probably wouldn't be around for his or her's 18th birthday. Let alone 12th birthday. I would want a better life for both, whether in US or Phils. But I think I would personally choose US for now. At least they would get survivorship benefits on my paid in, fully funded Social Security account. They could choose to stay or go back to Phils then.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1608205]If you meet a poorly educated girl and treat her well and get divorced I think 8 k Euros would keep her happy as hell. Most of them would not pursue anything they truly seem to simply accept what come their way. If you meet a worldy gal well be careful. Sadly I need worldy for more than just 8 hours of sweating!
PP.[/QUOTE]Other than the Vatican, the Philippines is, I believe, the only country left in the world with no divorce, unless of course you pay off the church and get an annulment. That said, if you marry and divorce in Germany, I think the divorce would be recognized here.
GE.
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Annulment & Divorce
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1608232]Other than the Vatican, the Philippines is, I believe, the only country left in the world with no divorce, unless of course you pay off the church and get an annulment. That said, if you marry and divorce in Germany, I think the divorce would be recognized here.
GE.[/QUOTE]Perhaps a slight correction. Pinay can divorce a Foreigner. However if they marry a local then Annulment is the route which sadly is grossly expensive and involves Lawyers not sure why, but that is facts and I am not sure if the church is paid.
PP.
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No kids
Higgins I will be judgemental here BUT I strongly recommend against having a kid. I have 2 here in the West, love them too much and they cost a fortune and are allot of work if you are a good parent. Every and I mean EVERY pinay wants kids for no good reason, these women even those settled here in the west simply can not see beyond the here and now and could not plan an orgy in athai *****house with a fistful of hundred dollar bills. Raising kids in the West is tough, raising kids in the Phils is TRAGIC fing tragic.
Don't have kids unless you will be there because a kid with out a dad is sad and don't count on a filipina to raise a child the way you think it should be there are of course exceptions to every rule.
My Counsel, ADOPT, why:
1. Saves her body! And is that not why we want younger tail?
2. No NEW kids added to a grossly over crowded country with horrible schools and no future for kids.
3. The first year of the baby sucks for the man any ways and frankly for the woman although my ex did love having babies.
4. Non nursed tits are VASTLY superior to ones that have had the life sucked out of them and women should breast feed for the health of the child.
5. You will be making the world a better place by adopting a child instead of adding to the PROBLEMS!
As a Father I had a stepson who loved me as much as my kids did (he came into my life at 10 and left at 12) I made a positive profound impact on his life, something I am very proud of and he respected me more because he knew how lucky he was to have me, I am a great dad, BAD HUSBAND!
I have 2 GF there and both on on the pill and both know I won't be giving them kids and both agree. Adoption may happen as I love kids and being a dad, but I am older ans selfish. To be a great dad is hard work.
PP.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1609630]Perhaps a slight correction. Pinay can divorce a Foreigner. However if they marry a local then Annulment is the route which sadly is grossly expensive and involves Lawyers not sure why, but that is facts and I am not sure if the church is paid.
PP.[/QUOTE]A correction to your correction. A foreigner can divorce a Pinay in a country other than the Philippines, and a Pinay can divorce a foreigner if she does so in another country; and the Philippines will recognize those divorces. But no Philippine court can render a divorce decree under any circumstances.
Interestingly, if a Filipino couple gets a divorce in another country, that divorce will NOT be recognized in the Philippines, if and when they return.
RG.
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Gentlemen,
Thank you very much for your thoughts, it is allways good to get some input from an objective, experienced side.
The initial point of my thougts was, that I can hardly satisfy a (western) women here, I work pretty much, like my job, so there are periods in my life here, where I cannot entertain the lady, take her out, bla bla bla. So in some ways, I wanted to "outsource" the relationship. And I like asian girls very much.
The dilemma if I bring an Asian girl here, what will she do all day? Not knowing the language, probably not having proper education to get a job. Watch TV all day, get stupid and fat?
At Pinaypounder: yes, it should be a worldy gal, I want to be able to have a converation with her and at Dg8787 yes, of course I would want the best for my child, but having a family here with an Asian girl seems to be very hard.
At Pinaypounder "Higgins I will be judgemental here but I strongly recommend against having a kid. Don't have kids unless you will be there because a kid with out a dad is sad and don't count on a Filipina to raise a child the way you think it should be there are of course exceptions to every rule. "
I respect your thought very much and I think you are right. Thanks.
So I will dismiss this idea, you know how it is sometimes, when you think about options in your life.
So visit Asia and maybe I'll find a decent woman here, you never know, what life holds for you.
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[QUOTE=HigginsT;1610126]
The dilemma if I bring an Asian girl here, what will she do all day? Not knowing the language, probably not having proper education to get a job. Watch TV all day, get stupid and fat?[/QUOTE]As long she has access to FB; you have cable or sat TV with: SYFY (for horror movies), HBO / SHO (for drama) and the Cartoon Network / Disney Channel then she'll be fine all day while you slave away to make enough to send remittances back to her family as there will of course be never ending "emergencies". You may also want to pick up a rice cooker and go to Sam's or Costo and grab up a 50 lb bag of rice (not that Uncle Ben's perverted crap either, get some good sticky rice so she can eat with her fingers).
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1610431]As long she has access to FB; you have cable or sat TV with: SYFY (for horror movies), HBO / SHO (for drama) and the Cartoon Network / Disney Channel then she'll be fine all day while you slave away to make enough to send remittances back to her family as there will of course be never ending "emergencies". You may also want to pick up a rice cooker and go to Sam's or Costo and grab up a 50 lb bag of rice (not that Uncle Ben's perverted crap either, get some good sticky rice so she can eat with her fingers).[/QUOTE]I'd nominate this for reports of distinction, but you left out the Filipino Channel.
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I think you can do it!
[QUOTE=HigginsT;1610126]Gentlemen,
Thank you very much for your thoughts, it is allways good to get some input from an objective, experienced side.
The initial point of my thougts was, that I can hardly satisfy a (western) women here, I work pretty much, like my job, so there are periods in my life here, where I cannot entertain the lady, take her out, bla bla bla. So in some ways, I wanted to "outsource" the relationship. And I like asian girls very much.
.[/QUOTE]Higgins.
I am presently planning to bring a lady here to the West it may not happen but allot of energy and time is being invested. She is an employed single, Engineer and learned, no kids, bright and articulate just way to religious but I am hoping that she prefers Sunday Morning sex to church and we have discussed that bluntly and at length. She is attractive and kind very kind.
I told her frankly I need her help, my life is hard work I have several businesses, a home, 2 kids etc so I said 3 days a week she will work in one of my businesses in a legitimate role (she is bright after all) and 4 days a week she takes care of me she can volunteer, contribute tot he community, help the church I don't care as long as the house is clean, dinner is on the table and she stay fit!
All of this has truly been discussed.
The gifts of a filipina is their kindness if your lady is perhaps not as capable as mine then start a small day home and she can actually contribute to the family finances and it keeps her busy, they can clean and do things for people for money in a Western setting. I think that is a win win.
I think the key and I may be completely wrong is to be blunt and discuss your expectations and reasons why. I want this lady to help me make more money so I can do more great things with her on the weekends. She says that she gets that and agrees.
The girls we pick up and fuck in 30 minutes are not of the class and stature of this woman as it has been said, you can take the tiger out of the jungle. Very few men (but some) have had successful relationships with loose asian ladies. I have not even seen this lady naked yet, I will be unwrapping that package in about 16 days!
Finally if it proves to be a solid success I would adopt with her a child that needs us from here or from the phils. But it would be an older child! Creates good karma I think.
The key is to simply put forward honestly what works for you, in my opinion. And fuck have I invested allot of time and energy to this end.
PP.
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Thought I'd share.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1610660]I'd nominate this for reports of distinction, but you left out the Filipino Channel.[/QUOTE]At Pip: That's funny man, it could be Higgins' future. He may want to refer to the Davao thread and search a partner from the upper tiers of GE and Barba's groups if he wants different results.
At Higgins: That said, you may also want to keep your expectations low, to not set yourself up for major disappointment. I don't know what you're looking for, but maybe a bit older, a bit heavier, or the single mother type may make it easier. I'm like PP in that I want a girl with a really hot body. And I'm materialistic when it comes to looks. So I want it young, (18-22) even though I'm relatively old and haggard. Because "age doesn't matter" (ya, right). I'm not really after a wife, just more of a longer term thing. And if it keeps going, then great, all the better.
I only share this because I been thinking about it lately and you guys brought it up. A series of things have happened and now I'm not so idealistic and hopeful anymore. I mean it may be asking a bit too much to find an exotic 19 year old with the body of a mannequin. One that's interested in a guy that's older than her father yet we still have anything in common. And one that's not a pain in the ass and going to cost more than short term rentals. And on top of all that she's smart enough to not be too dangerous? I mean, I'm going to find the perfect girl when the list of stuff here that should be EASY to find, but "not available sir" is a mile long? A bit of a needle in a haystack it's starting to seem, and I'm not even talking about bringing one home. Don't mean to discourage you, just saying if you keep your expectations low you may be better off, you may get a pleasant surprise.
The lonely burnt out "monger" trap is a dangerous one and puts guys in a vulnerable place.
So for me, while I'm waiting for "Gods will" to happen, I'm going to just take it easy and try being content with plan B for a while. Which is a steady stream of them, and just get my favorite Saturday night girl a cute skirt.
Hope it all works out for you, let us know.
PS, Indonesians make great partners too, you may want to check into that.
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An Alternative
Gentlemen, I would like to point out that, on the other hand, having a woman in the position of not having anything to do all day represents an unprecedented opportunity to upgrade her into whatever the fuck you want. Perhaps, rather than approaching it from the angle of "how is she going to stay entertained", one might prefer the approach of, "what can I make her into. " Any chick I am interested for more than an overnight or so, gets sent to yoga (or TRX, or a personal trainer if I think she's worth it.) Not expensive here. Three nights a week for a month at my local aerobics studio, is less than a decent dinner for two. Personal services and education are like all labor costs, vastly less expensive in comparison to solid goods here. But even if you are living in your home country, if you can afford to live there, then you can probably afford to keep your chick out from in front of the fucking TV.
And there's generally very little resistance. For a women brought up in developing country, it's something exotic, a total luxury, something she can brag to her friends about. Maybe she wants to finish school. Fantastic. Isn't an educated woman more fun to talk to (and to fuck) than an ignorant peasant? Then again, maybe she likes to sing, sew, dance, sculpt, whatever. Who gives a shit which as long as she's into it and she's improving her life and yours. What I am trying to point out is, that with a dependent GF or wife or whatever, there is an opportunity to help them form themselves into something that you are going to enjoy even more, and you're a fool if you don't take it. A lot of these girls would like to improve themselves, they would like it a lot, but they've never had the opportunity. Give it to them, in fact force them into it if you have to. It's your opportunity too. The majority will not have to be forced, they genuinely would love it, whether it's to make their friends jealous with their figure, look better and feel better, or just because they actually enjoy being a smarter, more developed person. And you . . . get the chance to have a female of a caliber that you could never hope for in a developed country. Tailored to your likes. If you will take the minimal effort, and moderate expense, to craft the raw material into something more refined and pleasing.
So don't set your Filipina down in front of the goddamned cable set or Wii or Facebook. Send her to the gym, to school, give her projects and opportunities. Find out what she likes to do and make a way for her to do more of it, to her and your benefit. Set some fucking rules. If you want to be with me you will keep yourself in shape and improve yourself. And I will pay for it and we will both win. If a girl says no to that, then she's too stupid to consider for long-term anyway.
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[QUOTE=RollAides;1611226] Any chick I am interested for more than an overnight or so, gets sent to yoga (or TRX, or a personal trainer if I think she's worth it.) Not expensive here. Three nights a week for a month at my local aerobics studio, is less than a decent dinner for two. Personal services and education are like all labor costs, vastly less expensive in comparison to solid goods here. But even if you are living in your home country, if you can afford to live there, then you can probably afford to keep your chick out from in front of the fucking TV.[/QUOTE]This is sound advice. I've found many of the girls I meet already do yoga, pole dance, zumba, swim, martial arts, or simply go to the gym several days a week. A few girls I know take cooking classes, and given the frequent put downs of Filipino food I read here I reckon your girl(s) learning to prepare a dozen or so dishes you like may enhance your hapenis.
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Adoption
I was thinking of adopting an older child also. A 19 year old Filipina and bringing her back to the States. Does anybody know how I should start the paperwork?
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1610664]Higgins.
Finally if it proves to be a solid success I would adopt with her a child that needs us from here or from the phils. But it would be an older child! Creates good karma I think.
PP.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RollAides;1611226] upgrade her into whatever the fuck you want..[/QUOTE]Good point, RA. Probably better to do this with a younger one in their early 20's. After that the cast has been set. I think I'd like to find a sexy, impressionable young one and put her through nursing school or cooking school. Maybe buy her some bolt-ons and move her in with me. I wonder if any guys on ISG have done this.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1611345]I was thinking of adopting an older child also. A 19 year old Filipina and bringing her back to the States. Does anybody know how I should start the paperwork?[/QUOTE]Does this question warrant an answer or an admonition?