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[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1159707]Gentlemen, I strongly recommend the following book:
Shanghai girls: Uncensored and Unsentimental, How to Marry Up and Stay There. By Lan Lan as told to Mina Hanbury-Tenison (available on Amazon in Kindle format)
Some points from the book on the motivations of a Shanghai Girl (read China) :
1. Be Un-sentimenal (love is not Charity).
7. Leveraging up.
Read and be forewarned. [/QUOTE]This book looks really good! Ha! Ha!
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1159731]Umm why the sudden focus on what is basically modern day slavery? You guys are talking about 'owning' a girl and how much it would cost. Well you might have a car, a stable career, and be able to offer her more money than she could earn on her own. But, you are definetely not the best thing to happen to her.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ringer5;1159750]Is there something you want to share with us? Are you, perhaps a member of the fair sex, with a point to make?[/QUOTE]I'm thinking we should get back on topic.
[QUOTE=Truazn532; 1159625]*They get 6 days off a month. (I was starting to feel kinda terrible here)
*They make 60, 000. 80, 000 RMB per month! Apparently, they get a 350rmb cut. 6-8 customers a day. (not feeling that terrible anymore, free markets!)[/QUOTE]Whoww. RMB 80, 000 p / m that's an enormous amount, but somehow I can not believe they serve 6-8 clients per day. Each session last 60-70 min, after that the girls need to recuperate and redo hair / makeup etc, then they need to go to the line up and wait to be selected again. Say each 'total' round takes 2 hrs, then 8 rounds takes 16 hours and they only open from 11 am to 2 pm (I recall) , so max 15 hours. Hmmm, perhaps it is possible but seems stretched. If they really do 8 clients a day then I do not want to be nr 8, the lovely girl will be just too tired to serve well. But anyhow, RMB 80, 000 puts things in another perspective, this is a top level income for a 20 year old gal! No wonder they are willing to AR all these guys each day, this always surprised me, as well as all the guys who after having had their AR want to DFK the girls, but each his favorite dish, so please take no offense.
Something else, we have read about the Bodi hidden video rumour, any hard facts on this? Also did anyone ever try to make a video themselves. Last week I took some pictures. With consent of the girl. Of her pretty legs and feet, but not the whole body. A nice memory!
[QUOTE=Ringer5;1159750]Is there something you want to share with us? Are you, perhaps a member of the fair sex, with a point to make?[/QUOTE]I agree.
WTF are you going on about Smirnoff? Whether someone wants to pay a girl for an hour or a month, what's the difference? It's an agreement made between two consenting adults. Slavery would be if one of the parties didn't have a choice.
It seems that you are on here to prove to all of us how studly and bad ass you are. Good for you. Guess what? Nobody cares.
[QUOTE=LaowaiForChina;1159500]Well, the way I read your report, you might have made a mistake in timing. She seems to have come to you for a good time for herself. Maybe she really liked you, who knows. Would you pay your GF for sex? Nobody does. You mentioned she's no WG at the moment anymore, but you treated her as a w. Hore by paying her. If you'd taken her as a freebie, you might be in love now. And could have sponsored her rent, or buy her stuff, as a GF. Probably more expensive than a WG, as we all know.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that this doesn't need to be said, but just in case.
I travel to China a few times per year, and I have some phone numbers and emails that I can contact to line up some punting before arriving with girls I've known from before.
Some of the girls I know have been put up by a generous foreigner as exclusive. This has NEVER resulted in my being told they can't come by the hotel for a couple of hours. At worst it's been: My "boyfriend" doesn't leave for work until 10 so I can't leave here until after that. Just FYI
By the way Mr. Vodka. Where are you from.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen,
How about we keep this forum to Shanghai actual reports and move the random off topic discussions to "China Women. Opinions and Advice" or "Living in China". Appreciate your help.
[QUOTE=JeromeChanel; 1159452]Do you know of any good and cheap hotels for taking friends (hourly or for one night)?
I'm looking for both cheap and clean hostels, I live here and just want casual places. Preferably, around jingan district.
Maybe I'm asking for impossible thought. [/QUOTE]Google GreenTree Inns. They have a 6hr rate <RMB200. Staff usually doesn't speak English though. They will take a RMB300 deposit and refund the diff when you check out. Don't forget your passport.
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1159150]And some of us admire your falling in love. Just fall into lust the next time and the next time and the next time, etc. Falling into lust is about the same as falling in love. But the sex is better, much better. You can appreciate the fucking before during and after. There is another really good fucking Chinese girl who can help you. Keep looking.[/QUOTE]Well, screw her. I have my sight on the next two targets. They are cousins from Hailang. This time I'll just stick to Pay per Fuck.
Visited Southern Saturday around 7. Near Lianhua Road Metro stop. No waiting to get to the fishbowl, and plenty of selection. Picked #808. While we were in the shower, she suggested a 2 girl deal. I decided to go for it. I've never had 2 at once before. I have no regrets. Wow! #33 showed up quickly and joined the fun. Both girls had nice, full boobs and knew how to use them. The 2-girl soapy was out of this world! They claimed to be sisters from Sichuan. 22 and 24 years old, not sure I believe it, but they got along together great. The best part about it was the second girl. 33, was far more into it than the first. With her, the older one, it was a GFE. 808 was more typical, fun, but emotionally more distant. Two girls, multiple positions, both very wet and enjoyed digits (gently) at the same time.
Downside: While we cuddled, waiting for the clock to run out, they mostly gossiped with each other, enjoying the cuddle but almost like I wasn't there. Total damage: 1300.
[QUOTE=Mike921;1160058]Google GreenTree Inns. They have a 6hr rate <RMB200. Staff usually doesn't speak English though. They will take a RMB300 deposit and refund the diff when you check out. Don't forget your passport.[/QUOTE]While I'm not sure if they offer this in all Hantings (or whether it's a one off thing) , I paid 100 yuan for 4 hours at Hanting Panyu lu.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1160131]Visited Southern Saturday around 7. . .They claimed to be sisters from Sichuan. 22 and 24 years old, not sure I believe it, but they got along together great.
Downside: While we cuddled, waiting for the clock to run out, they mostly gossiped with each other, enjoying the cuddle but almost like I wasn't there. Total damage: 1300. [/QUOTE]It is quite usual in Asia to' hear the "sisters" story. It mainly describes very close friends. No parental links at all.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;1159874]Whoww. RMB 80, 000 p / m that's an enormous amount, but somehow I can not believe they serve 6-8 clients per day.[/QUOTE]The average HJ mp girl earns 10-15k from at best, two clients a day, spending 80% of her time in the back room cross stitching or knitting!
If guys are waiting for the girls, the turn around must be pdq. Go figure, I believe it.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;1159874]Whoww. RMB 80, 000 p / m that's an enormous amount, but somehow I can not believe they serve 6-8 clients per day.[/QUOTE]Same here. Anyone can confirm or deny those numbers? My gut feeling is they are inflated.
[QUOTE=Stegram; 1159907]I agree.
WTF are you going on about Smirnoff? Whether someone wants to pay a girl for an hour or a month, what's the difference? It's an agreement made between two consenting adults. Slavery would be if one of the parties didn't have a choice.
It seems that you are on here to prove to all of us how studly and bad ass you are. Good for you. Guess what? Nobody cares. [/QUOTE]I'm on here to learn and get first hand intel on the scene in Shanghai. I know how to handle myself, and I don't like letting people take advantage of me or disrespect me. That applies anywhere I go. I won't really try hard to argue with you, because I'd also rather read reports than some debate about morals etc. But let me just say, the girls who are desperate enough to allow themselves to be 'bought' by a foreigner don't really have a choice, unless starving to death is a choice?
I'm from a country with a high incidence of alcoholism and extreme violence (mostly knifes) you can guess.