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[QUOTE=Zeus9;1992305] She spent half the day with me, so I thought 2000 was fair, so. I gave her 1500 for her efforts.[/QUOTE]It warms my heart to see someone paying a reasonable rate instead of hearing about 2. 5 to 3 K for a ST out of a GoGo bar. Certainly wish more punters remunerated like you. Good on you.
[QUOTE=Zeus9;1992293]Where did you get that ratio of dividing your age by 2 and adding 7 years. I was given the same ratio by a cab driver maybe 17 years ago. I thought that it was great advice then, hahaha. But if we stick to that ratio, then we can't keep a GF for more than a couple years without throwing it off.[/QUOTE]The Romans used to use that formula.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1992235]Snip. Its the 45+ year olds that is going too far for me. The two girls I have done around that age are too far deteriorated for me to be interested any more. The question now is, will I still want to fuck my GF when I reach 70, and she will be approaching 50. She will be well past the formula of divide my age by 2 and add 7 years. I have had an easy life physically so fortunately pass for being 10 years younger than my true age.[/QUOTE]If you're already thinking about whether you will be able to fuck your girlfriend when she's almost 50, it's almost certain that you won't. Given that, would it not be kinder to her to kick her to the curb now, while she can still find someone who does not follow that formula, rather than in 10 years time, when her prospects will be much diminished?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1992235]35 is so young (relative to my age). LOL. Could still be in good nick for the body. My GF is 38 and body still great. A little skinny but still decent curves and not saggy. Face a little bit deteriorated compared to 12 years ago. Main Gik (or 2nd semi GF) is about 33. Excellent on the bed, some baby damage to figure, but fairly minor.
Its the 45+ year olds that is going too far for me. The two girls I have done around that age are too far deteriorated for me to be interested any more. The question now is, will I still want to fuck my GF when I reach 70, and she will be approaching 50. She will be well past the formula of divide my age by 2 and add 7 years. I have had an easy life physically so fortunately pass for being 10 years younger than my true age.[/QUOTE]Have you seen Christie Brinkley lately? She is 62 years old and hot. I don't know any 70 year old dude in the world who wouldn't love to bang that (if he could). You just have to make sure to marry one as hot as Christie Brinkley.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;1992553]Have you seen Christie Brinkley lately? She is 62 years old and hot. I don't know any 70 year old dude in the world who wouldn't love to bang that (if he could). You just have to make sure to marry one as hot as Christie Brinkley.[/QUOTE]Yes she is a little bit amazing. One of the very best. I wonder if she had less surgeries than some of the others, or just was resilient to them. I could actually do a girl older than me. I don't care how old a girl is if she can look that good (stay in good condition). If my Thai GF could just give up smoking, put on a few more kilos to fill out the face a little more, and stay out of the garden (sun), she could look nearly that good (at 38 though), and with less wrinkles. She has more like a Lauren Hutton skinny face look.
Thai women can deteriorate very slowly, or very fast. Some look old by 35. I am close friend of a Thai chef in another country and she is 51, but still has slim tight figure and not a wrinkle on the face. No Crow's feet. No babies. Even Asian guys aged 35 flirt with her. LOL. Yet it is hard to come up with many old Asian beauties, Maybe Lucy Liu, Li Gong, Ziyi Zhang etc. I never like Michelle Yeow at all. Ugliest Bond heroine to date, for me. If she was available, I would pass. Ideal to play the part of a witch.
When I was young, the Asian stars that appealed to me were France Nguyen (South Pacific), Akiko Wakabayashi (You only live Twice), and maybe even Nancy Kwan. So even in my teens I already knew I liked Asian girl looks. These women are of course somewhat older than me so must be very ancient now, so cannot possibly still look good. I dare not look.
Is doing a 60 YO woman, a bucket list thing? I don't think I did an over 50 as yet. Two came very close, and lost interest in both of them. The face deterioration seems more serious than the body deterioration, for me. I assume same would be the case with Christie.
Sharon Stone and Michelle Pfeiffer still look pretty hot at 58. Barbara Hershey has looked hot at any age. Some beauties had too many surgeries though and no longer look so good, formerly gorgeous, e.g. Raquel Welch, Emmanuelle Beart, etc.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1992544]The Romans used to use that formula.
If you're already thinking about whether you will be able to fuck your girlfriend when she's almost 50, it's almost certain that you won't. Given that, would it not be kinder to her to kick her to the curb now, while she can still find someone who does not follow that formula, rather than in 10 years time, when her prospects will be much diminished?[/QUOTE]I merely consider these things based on not finding any 50 YO girls sexually that appealing right now.
No, actually I would like to fuck my GF far more often. If she was horny daily, I would love it. Her body is still great. Fabulous ass no noticeable sag. Face deterioration is noticeable compared to 12 years ago. So face is the biggest problem for anyone I think. I merely wonder if it will deteroriate much further by 50. Perhaps not. She could rectify her face look I think by putting on just a bit more weight to fill out the cheeks properly. Quitting smoking would help this, and then just keep the hat on when outside.
When you first meet a girl, you don't really have a measure for how horny she is. It happens that girls are trying much harder to please in the early stages, and less "sensible". After a few years, she is still very sensitive, she can multi-orgasm, but then will be sated for several days. This means I should have picked a girl that orgasms with more difficulty but wants it more often.
The lesson is, when first meet a girl, if she does not tell you that she needs sex every day, and sometimes likes multiple times per day, then you must realise she is unlikely to provide daily sex or even 4 times a week, in the future. I find even the girls that say they want sex every day, in actual practice, do not, and get lazy some days. It is a danger to pick girls that never masturbated when young. This is a big indicator that they are just not horny enough, or too prim and proper. My main Thai Gik started going to look for western men for sex at the age of 16. She was a horny young thing, and so remains a girl more horny than average to date.
A friend asked me which is better, a "riap rooi" girl (prim and proper) or a "raet" girl (Wayward. Literally means Rhino). I have to say I think a somewhat "raet" type girl is better for a decent sex life. My GF is far too prim and proper.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;1992553]Have you seen Christie Brinkley lately? She is 62 years old and hot. I don't know any 70 year old dude in the world who wouldn't love to bang that (if he could). You just have to make sure to marry one as hot as Christie Brinkley.[/QUOTE]Don't be disguised by official apperances.
You might be disappointed in the morning when the war paint is off.
I got to say, for a 48 year old woman, Lucy Liu is smokin' hot. So is Julie Chen at 47 - but know for a fact that Julie Chen has had A LOT of work done on her. She's one of the first names that pops up if you google good plastic surgeries. Good enough to hook into the CEO of the CBS Network Les Moonves.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lucy+liu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=Julie+chen+plastic+surgery
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1992531]It warms my heart to see someone paying a reasonable rate instead of hearing about 2. 5 to 3 K for a ST out of a GoGo bar. Certainly wish more punters remunerated like you. Good on you.[/QUOTE]Thanks, all I had to do was RTFF to know what reasonable rates are. I won't take a gogo girl for more than 2500+BF+check. I would have to really have a thing for that particular girl even then. I'd rather drop 2300 at an oily for 2 hours.
It seems older attractive women, say, past 40-45, have to choose whether they want to maintain and extend their good looks in their face or devote their efforts to keeping their body lean and fit. Almost impossible to have both a great body and a beautiful face as a woman approaches 50. I think the workouts, dieting and regime required to keep the body up draws from the face in some way.
Christie Brinkley hasn't maintained both. I think her body is mostly shot but her face still looks pretty good. For her age. Then again, she never really had a great butt and legs, imo.
Spent a couple of hours drinking and admiring the view at CH last night, a Monday night no less and the line up was great. One of Syzygies favourites, #4 Jane was there, and from what I could tell didn't get barfined while I was there between 9 and 11. She does look quite attractive though not entirely my type, but I'd probably give her a try sometime given the good right ups here. There's another young girl with a similarly slender frame and face, #15.
In addition there were others mentioned in this forum like #3 and another who I forget now. The girl I found most attractive was a wonderful girl with a lean body, short black hair and be or see cup boobs. The whole time I was there she bounced around between farangs buying her drinks and it was difficult to see her number, I think it was 56 but I cannot be certain. I'd have barfined her in a second if I could have got her attention. She'd no sooner leave one guy before the next would grab her.
Also there was Nut, previously #72 but now changed to #34. Nut is very attractive to me and great in bed but she has one of the worst boob jobs I've ever seen and it's distracting. I bought her a few drinks anyways because she's a friendly and funny girl but ultimately I wanted the other girl.
The other change I noticed was the girl with the gnarly piercings in her face and tatts being relegated from gogo to being one of the sad freak show performancers that pulls objects out of their pussy. I never found her attractive but it saddens me to see her, or anyone to be honest, up there performing in such a degrading way.
The final comment was on the complete tool that was sitting there smoking a cigar. It's bad enough allowing people to smoke in a venue like that but it takes a particularlyself centered dick to smoke something so pungent in close proximity to others. Would it be equally acceptable for me to drop a pungent fart next to him?
Seeing I couldn't get my new favorite at CH I ventured down to Thermae. Is there a more obvious meat market anywhere?
The place was packed with girls, some surprisingly ugly, but definitely many fine ladies too. Many of the best wouldn't make eye contact with a Caucasian like me, that's fine, we know where we stand. Had a brief chat to 3 separate girls who I'd rate 7's and they all refused LT which I was after that night. They all offered 2500 be ST though, so that appears to be the normal ST floor.
Later I found another girl who was a slight step up in class, a 7. 5 or maybe stretching 8. She gave me a smile and I approached and after brief chit chat asked her for her price and if she'd do LT. She said yes but when I enquired about the price she gave me that annoying "how much you can pay?" I thought for a moment then blurted out 3500 to which she replied "What? I do ST for 4000 and LT for 8000". Way to blow me right out of the water. I definitely would have accepted a counter on my initial bid but at her quoted price I'd prefer one of several girls I'd seen in CH earlier.
Tail between legs I headed for home and just as I was opening the door to leave Thermae I literally ran into a tall girl who was walking in. We both laughed and she asked me where I was going and I said home. She asked if she could join me and after a brief negotiation we headed to my place.
I come to Bangkok for a couble of days in March. Is Biergarten in soi 7 still closed at that time? What is the alternative?
[QUOTE=AskeAske;1992791]I come to Bangkok for a couble of days in March. Is Biergarten in soi 7 still closed at that time? What is the alternative?[/QUOTE]The closest thing to the beer garden on Soi 7 you will find now are the Hillary bars all along Soi 4. They are open all day just like the beer garden was. Why do you like that place? Because of the fugly ugly old cheap charlie ladies or the no air conditioning?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;1992726]It seems older attractive women, say, past 40-45, have to choose whether they want to maintain and extend their good looks in their face or devote their efforts to keeping their body lean and fit. Almost impossible to have both a great body and a beautiful face as a woman approaches 50. I think the workouts, dieting and regime required to keep the body up draws from the face in some way.
Christie Brinkley hasn't maintained both. I think her body is mostly shot but her face still looks pretty good. For her age. Then again, she never really had a great butt and legs, imo.[/QUOTE]Body is more important to me. And that is at any age.
[QUOTE=Zeus9;1992661]Thanks, all I had to do was RTFF to know what reasonable rates are. I won't take a gogo girl for more than 2500+BF+check. I would have to really have a thing for that particular girl even then. I'd rather drop 2300 at an oily for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Amen. I still say that all GoGo gals are still 1 K Baht lays. Skill set has not improved, but they want three times the amount.