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This forum inspired me to visit Thailand too and so it happened. Today I landed. I have never been to anything like this and only been once paid for a girl (In Scotland that was). I am a (very) young guy and so was wondering if this was for me. Sold my company recently so wanted to experience something 'new' on my travels after a gazillion times in 'western' countries and I think Thailand was def. Good enough for a culture shock! If not a shock to see how everyone drives.
Okay so I am not experienced in it all but have been reading these topics for a while. I'm staying at Terminal 21 so nice and close to Soi Cowboy. Interesting to walk trough altho very uncomfortable the first 2/3 times somehow. Especially because I am by myself you feel a little more aware and had to get some confidence to actually go inside one club. Call it shy, but so be it. Choose Suzie Wong because of the show I read about so thought to try that first. Well. You learn a lot about yourself in this street: the Mostly the fact I have a hard time refusing things / saying no. I am normally easy-going in clubs and easily chat up girls but when you know they come to you with other purposes I somehow get crazily shy even after a few drinks. I used the tip from here never to say it's your first time but I bet they could smell it from a distance haha. Think I ended up paying for 4 ladydrinks for 2 different girls and then took the 2 d girl back to the room already for a ST. To be honest I am clueless why but I think I was just thinking: let's see how the whole process goes so I know for the rest of the holiday. She was reasonably nice so whatever. 650 barfine and 2500 for ST. Didn't have the guts (or didn't care enough) to discuss about the price. Money isn't a issue for me but then still. Lesson I should've taken from here is to always discuss price and don't accept first offer straight away. But well. Hotel is across the street so took her here. Reception didn't ask anything and wasn't very interested in going to reception for ID and stuff. I guess it's normal here but feels bit awkward. But when taking LT I will def do (for security). As I know where she worked and her attitude it felt safe enough.
In bed she was nice enough. VERY different then what I'm used to in Europe size wise ofcourse and to be fair didn't feel much with her on top but he. It's nice to try different things so in other positions it was slightly better. Was ok'ish sex but def not something to remember forever but I was nervous too so all in all for a first time happy enough. I was glad she was sweet and easy-going and spoke decent English so all good.
Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.
Thanks all for the posts here. I'm sure your helping a lot of lurkers very well!
P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?
PS2: Excuse my English. It's not my native language!
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[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;1993587] Hotel is across the street so took her here. Reception didn't ask anything and wasn't very interested in going to reception for ID and stuff. I guess it's normal here but feels bit awkward. But when taking LT I will def do (for security). As I know where she worked and her attitude it felt safe enough.
In bed she was nice enough. VERY different then what I'm used to in Europe size wise ofcourse and to be fair didn't feel much with her on top but he. It's nice to try different things so in other positions it was slightly better. Was ok'ish sex but def not something to remember forever but I was nervous too so all in all for a first time happy enough. I was glad she was sweet and easy-going and spoke decent English so all good.
Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.
P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?
[/QUOTE]Everyone has to make some mistakes and learn. Reading ISG can help avoid the mistakes. My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me. However the girl has to be keen too.
Some girls work outside the club with sign to attract customers. She may be able to go inside for a drink and some one else take over from her for a while. You will just have to ask her what the possibilities are. Can't say every girl like this will have the same rules.
Try some recommended massage shops maybe, and see if you like that. Girl performance maybe more special from one of the pornstar type Massage shops.
Would be nice if you reported the girl's name at Suzi Wong, and why you chose her. Some others here may know her.
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[QUOTE=Tiandihui;1992935]This the one I mentioned much earlier. Proven and tested and its good, compare to Viagra if ask me. Pills for long term is a damage to liver. Better take something from natural herbs. Play safe and play long. But again, "Love for one guy may be a hate to another".[/QUOTE]Viagra, the real stuff, does not do any damage to your liver even with long term use. However, there are many herbs that do adversely affect the liver. Even green tea extract in concentrated amounts taken in sufficient quantities over a significant period can damage the livers of certain people. And there are many other natural herbs that can do the same besides.
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What hotel across the street from Soi Cowboy?
[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;1993587]This forum inspired me to visit Thailand too and so it happened. Today I landed. I have never been to anything like this and only been once paid for a girl (In Scotland that was). I am a (very) young guy and so was wondering if this was for me. Sold my company recently so wanted to experience something 'new' on my travels after a gazillion times in 'western' countries and I think Thailand was def. Good enough for a culture shock! If not a shock to see how everyone drives.
Okay so I am not experienced in it all but have been reading these topics for a while. I'm staying at Terminal 21 so nice and close to Soi Cowboy. Interesting to walk trough altho very uncomfortable the first 2/3 times somehow. Especially because I am by myself you feel a little more aware and had to get some confidence to actually go inside one club. Call it shy, but so be it. Choose Suzie Wong because of the show I read about so thought to try that first. Well. You learn a lot about yourself in this street: the Mostly the fact I have a hard time refusing things / saying no. I am normally easy-going in clubs and easily chat up girls but when you know they come to you with other purposes I somehow get crazily shy even after a few drinks. I used the tip from here never to say it's your first time but I bet they could smell it from a distance haha. Think I ended up paying for 4 ladydrinks for 2 different girls and then took the 2 d girl back to the room already for a ST. To be honest I am clueless why but I think I was just thinking: let's see how the whole process goes so I know for the rest of the holiday. She was reasonably nice so whatever. 650 barfine and 2500 for ST. Didn't have the guts (or didn't care enough) to discuss about the price. Money isn't a issue for me but then still. Lesson I should've taken from here is to always discuss price and don't accept first offer straight away. But well. Hotel is across the street so took her here. Reception didn't ask anything and wasn't very interested in going to reception for ID and stuff. I guess it's normal here but feels bit awkward. But when taking LT I will def do (for security). As I know where she worked and her attitude it felt safe enough.
In bed she was nice enough. VERY different then what I'm used to in Europe size wise ofcourse and to be fair didn't feel much with her on top but he. It's nice to try different things so in other positions it was slightly better. Was ok'ish sex but def not something to remember forever but I was nervous too so all in all for a first time happy enough. I was glad she was sweet and easy-going and spoke decent English so all good.
Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.
Thanks all for the posts here. I'm sure your helping a lot of lurkers very well!
P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?
PS2: Excuse my English. It's not my native language![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Globoid;1993783]What hotel across the street from Soi Cowboy?[/QUOTE]Centrepoint terminal 21.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1993660]Everyone has to make some mistakes and learn. Reading ISG can help avoid the mistakes. My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me. However the girl has to be keen too.
Some girls work outside the club with sign to attract customers. She may be able to go inside for a drink and some one else take over from her for a while. You will just have to ask her what the possibilities are. Can't say every girl like this will have the same rules.
Try some recommended massage shops maybe, and see if you like that. Girl performance maybe more special from one of the pornstar type Massage shops.
Would be nice if you reported the girl's name at Suzi Wong, and why you chose her. Some others here may know her.[/QUOTE]"My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me". That's a good one indeed. Will keep that in mind.
I think it was number 32 I took with me. A waitress (number: 108) kept trying so hard too but I wasn't interested in her at all. The mamasan working there kept begging for drinks as well but she was such a moody woman I was like hell no.
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[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;1993587]P.S.: Something I don't remember reading recently: If I see a girl that's standing on the street (with those signs and all) can I ask her to come inside with me for a drink or are those usually just for advertising and don't go with customers?
[/QUOTE]One thing you will learn soon, is that in Thailand everything is negotiable and everything has its price.
If you offer enough incentive, these girls will probably go with you.
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[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;1993787]Centrepoint terminal 21.
"My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me". That's a good one indeed. Will keep that in mind.
I think it was number 32 I took with me. A waitress (number: 108) kept trying so hard too but I wasn't interested in her at all. The mamasan working there kept begging for drinks as well but she was such a moody woman I was like hell no.[/QUOTE]Ah yes well I don't pay attention to the numbers in this venue. Likely I might know the waitress by name. Too many mamasans in there (4 at least), to be buying them drinks. Only when they supply me with vital info about a girl sought. Yao was always my favorite waitress, not the most pushy. Unavailable due to married to a gogo bar DJ, but there is also another quite sweet shy waitress who does go with customers sometimes (not quite slim enough for me maybe).
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[QUOTE=Tiandihui;1992935]This the one I mentioned much earlier. Proven and tested and its good, compare to Viagra if ask me. Pills for long term is a damage to liver. Better take something from natural herbs. Play safe and play long. But again, "Love for one guy may be a hate to another".[/QUOTE]Great if you believe herbs can be that good. Pity they had to add sugars, a very dangerous substance for your health. LOL Hemlock, Belladonna Deadly Nightshade, poison Ivy are all natural substances, right? Better to take something natural? Not necessarily.
However perhaps less is known about long term effects of various chemicals and artificial molecules. And yet we only just start to learn how sugars are "killing us" slowly, could be a contributor to so many diseases. The scientific world seems to have weak knowledge about side effects of many things, since there is so much debate.
If the Herbs really worked so good, I doubt that Viagra market would have taken off so spectacularly. These ingredients like Panax Ginseng, Polygonum, etc. Have been seen on many herbal products. I remain rather sceptical that they can act like Viagra, even if they do have benefits.
I did see a miraculous improvement in a friends long term (stayed for years) blotchy coloured skin (caused by a chemical ointment), going back to normal, after taking Ginseng in Bee's Royal Jelly or something like that. Could have improved blood circulation to the area, maybe?
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1994097]Ah yes well I don't pay attention to the numbers in this venue. Likely I might know the waitress by name. Too many mamasans in there (4 at least), to be buying them drinks. Only when they supply me with vital info about a girl sought. Yao was always my favorite waitress, not the most pushy. Unavailable due to married to a gogo bar DJ, but there is also another quite sweet shy waitress who does go with customers sometimes (not quite slim enough for me maybe).[/QUOTE]Remembered her name: Bam it was.
Last night I went to Nana Plaza. Way better (IMO) then Soi Cowboy. Felt way more relaxed. Nice few places to sit down too and much more 'lively'. Nice girls too. Took one back to the hotel that was super funny and had a nice time. Elevator guy (or whatever they are called) asked if I 'knew her' but didn't bother after. She told me after the 'fun' a lot of info on how things work which was quite interesting to listen to.
At one bar (I think it was on 2 d floor where they had buckets of ping pong balls you could throw on stage or wherever and the girls go nuts to catch some as they get 5 baht per ball or so. Nice girl sat with me, whole talk and drinks and all so I inquire about price and then she said she can't be barfined. Ehhh okay? I asked the reason but couldn't make it out what she was saying.
Can anyone advise on the line of girls standing in front of Nana Hotel sign. Total No-go or are they okay? A few were nice but I read once on a blog (edit: found it: [URL]http://www.barnewsbangkok.com/page37.html[/URL]) about it and seems bit sketchy. Anyone actually have good experienced with one there? Also: some seemed a bit young tbf. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url]. Or would the police or whoever not allow that and check their ID's now and then?
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1993660]My number 1 rule is I choose the girl, and rather than she chooses me. However the girl has to be keen too.[/QUOTE]I remember that some of the best LT sessions I had were with gogo girls from Suzi Wong who choose me.
They came down after their turn on the catwalk, looked at me, gave me a wai and asked if they could sit with me for a while.
It shows that the only rule is that you are to be flexible with your rules!
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1994101]Great if you believe herbs can be that good. Pity they had to add sugars, a very dangerous substance for your health. LOL Hemlock, Belladonna Deadly Nightshade, poison Ivy are all natural substances, right? Better to take something natural? Not necessarily.
However perhaps less is known about long term effects of various chemicals and artificial molecules. And yet we only just start to learn how sugars are "killing us" slowly, could be a contributor to so many diseases. The scientific world seems to have weak knowledge about side effects of many things, since there is so much debate.
If the Herbs really worked so good, I doubt that Viagra market would have taken off so spectacularly. These ingredients like Panax Ginseng, Polygonum, etc. Have been seen on many herbal products. I remain rather sceptical that they can act like Viagra, even if they do have benefits.
I did see a miraculous improvement in a friends long term (stayed for years) blotchy coloured skin (caused by a chemical ointment), going back to normal, after taking Ginseng in Bee's Royal Jelly or something like that. Could have improved blood circulation to the area, maybe?[/QUOTE]As I mentioned, love for one and hate for another.
Maybe you don't know the product clearly and that's why the negative feel towards it and skeptical about it.
A product success is 70% depends on its marketing strategic.
The main ingredient used in this is Longblack, know to the our Western and Tongka-Ali to the Asians.
Is bitter and that's why the honey is added and naturally honey has it benefits for body too.
Above aside, if sugar is slowly killing us, how beneficial is Viagra? You don't know its slowly killing the Liver too?
To the westerners friends, mostly are still stick to the Viagra, but not the Asians anymore.
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[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;1993587]This forum inspired me to visit Thailand too and so it happened. Today I landed. I have never been to anything like this and only been once paid for a girl (In Scotland that was). I am a (very) young guy and so was wondering if this was for me. Sold my company recently so wanted to experience something 'new' on my travels after a gazillion times in 'western' countries and I think Thailand was def. Good enough for a culture shock! If not a shock to see how everyone drives.
Okay so I am not experienced in it all but have been reading these topics for a while. I'm staying at Terminal 21 so nice and close to Soi Cowboy. Interesting to walk trough altho very uncomfortable the first 2/3 times somehow. Especially because I am by myself you feel a little more aware and had to get some confidence to actually go inside one club. Call it shy, but so be it. Choose Suzie Wong because of the show I read about so thought to try that first. Well. You learn a lot about yourself in this street: the Mostly the fact I have a hard time refusing things / saying no. I am normally easy-going in clubs and easily chat up girls but when you know they come to you with other purposes I somehow get crazily shy even after a few drinks. I used the tip from here never to say it's your first time but I bet they could smell it from a distance haha. Think I ended up paying for 4 ladydrinks for 2 different girls and then took the 2 d girl back to the room already for a ST. To be honest I am clueless why but I think I was just thinking: let's see how the whole process goes so I know for the rest of the holiday...[/QUOTE]Indeed, you can. Girls are very friendly in Thailand. You must, however, talk politely and negotiate nicely so that she is persuaded to go with you.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1994235]I remember that some of the best LT sessions I had were with gogo girls from Suzi Wong who choose me.
They came down after their turn on the catwalk, looked at me, gave me a wai and asked if they could sit with me for a while.
It shows that the only rule is that you are to be flexible with your rules![/QUOTE]I hope that is not exactly your best advice. You forgot the name now?
I guess you assessed her quick and decided she potentially need not be rejected immediately. As I am long sighted and like to review the body properly before deciding, I prefer if I can assess a girl firstly from a distance. Face matters even more than the body though. Personality is the most important but I probably will never know if the looks do not appeal at all. I can easily give a girl a wink from a distance, once I decide she might have possibilities, or make a hand sign to indicate will buy her a drink.
The first girl to approach a newbie guy in Suzi Wong used to be usually the one with a straight thick body, built like a tank, and two big silly coconuts stuck on the top. The name has slipped my mind right now, but I have reported it previously. Too lazy to search it right now. She was being sponsored by a Farang for a while, paying her rent and car, but had subsequently picked up a drug addict Thai boy who would beat her if she didn't have money. One time could not work due to bruises. Heard the story from the girl's "friend", a very pretty one, who doesn't work there any more. She got to my buddy first one day (before I knew her story) and he could not get rid of her (or would not. He was too weak in my view). Ended up, he BFed her and next day told me she was crap on the bed. I was mystified he even liked her at all. However she has been reported on by others on the ISG, that also took her. Eventually I read that she ditched her Farang sponser, but more likely he ditched her. Most girls in Suzi Wong are far better than this girl, but she was the one that would approach a good percentage of newcomer guys first, before anyone else. Very over confident.
The bottom line. You can be approached by a really lovely girl, but the odds are its more likely to be an aggressive dud girl. Choose carefully. Take your time to decide is my advise to anyone, unless the girl is just so special looking that you need to act fast, before some other customer BFs the girl right off your lap. Sure the rules are flexible depending on circumstance.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1994315]I hope that is not exactly your best advice. You forgot the name now?[/QUOTE]It is not one particular girl I was talking about. It happened a number of times over the years.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1994315]I guess you assessed her quick and decided she potentially need not be rejected immediately.[/QUOTE]I am not very picky. I guess 3 out of 4 girls in Suzi Wong suit me.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1994315]The first girl to approach a newbie guy in Suzi Wong used to be usually the one with a straight thick body, built like a tank, and two big silly coconuts stuck on the top.[/QUOTE]I'm quite sure it wasn't her. That type of body doesn't appeal to me.
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The bottom line. You can be approached by a really lovely girl, but the odds are its more likely to be an aggressive dud girl.[/QUOTE]That has never been my experience.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1994315] Choose carefully. Take your time to decide is my advise to anyone, unless the girl is just so special looking that you need to act fast, before some other customer BFs the girl right off your lap. Sure the rules are flexible depending on circumstance.[/QUOTE].
That is a wise advice, we all should heed!
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[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;1993587]Okay so I am not experienced in it all but have been reading these topics for a while. I'm staying at Terminal 21 so nice and close to Soi Cowboy. Interesting to walk trough altho very uncomfortable the first 2/3 times somehow. Especially because I am by myself you feel a little more aware and had to get some confidence to actually go inside one club.
Anyway, next time I will take more time and I will prob feel more relaxed too. Still have to get used to just sitting down in random place and girls coming to you and then asking for drinks to say no if I'm not at all interested. But he. We all had a first time in this 'world' right So taking the 'lessons' aboard.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. I think reports from first-timers are very important, as this forum tends to be dominated by some veterans who might be a bit jaded. I was there at the beginning of December and can't wait to get back. If you are still in the Land of Smiles, let me give some advice on BKK real quick. From one newbie to another. There is more to the Big Mango than just go-gos. I did not care too much for them and you don't need to like them either. If you like that vibe and you don't mind blowing a lot of money, have at it. But, it is not for everyone. The best sex I pulled in BKK was a girl standing on Sukhumvit, after leaving Soi Cowboy underwhelmed and with a lighter wallet. I made eye contact with a voluptuous SW, offered her 1000 and we were off to the races. Point and click, sure. But still quite satisfying.
I don't understand the need for all this serious vetting and pre-coital conversation and bonding. That's what girlfriends are for. Want to talk with Thai girls? Then join Thai Friendly and you will find plenty to chat with (or most likely waste time with) If some guys like that, that is their business. But, not everybody needs to go through the hustle and hustle of fending off girls wanting you to buy them expensive lady drinks, and maybe end up paying a barfine (which I find ridiculous) and a premium for services, only to find the girl is a cold fish (or starfish as some call them).
Heck, I just went into an ordinary massage parlor for a simple oil massage, not expecting any sexual services. The cute young thing who serviced me gave me such a thorough massage of my thighs, I had a raging boner. She offered me a suck and of course I had to accept that offer. It was a great experience that didn't involve bars or any alcohol or hustles, or haggling with obvious prostitutes. I am certain that there are many more possibilities for sex in Bangkok than we would know about. Experienced travelers have discussed that, specifically how the locals have a different set of options to service them. I'm sure you can find other options as well. And if you make it down to Pattaya, don't miss a stroll down Beach Road after dark.