Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO..[/QUOTE]The only area I can chime in on with confidence is the webcam girls. This is definitely a YMMV area. I'll give you one example.

I was called in to meet with a new model and her husband because I was going to be her monitor. Imagine Natalie Portman at 22, a few inches taller and with a high dollar boob job. I was initially blown away. This woman and her husband clearly didn't come from the bottom of the economic ladder. One of the reasons I was being put to work with her was because she would be working outside the studio. They already had all their own equipment, lights, laptop and webcam, plus a $3,000 DLSR 35 mm Nikon which they wanted to use. They had already had a fiber line run to their apartment (467 k per month) and both spoke excellent English.

She had recently finished schooling and was a dentist. He had a job as an accountant. Both came from estrato 6 families, they owned 2 cars and lived in a nice Hi-rise in Sabaneta. However, as a new dentist, the best she could get to work at another practice was under 2 million COP monthly. She wanted to go back to school to become an orthodontist, but didn't want her family to have to pay. So they decided on webcam modeling for her.

She did quite well until a family member stumbled onto her webcam show. He got some screenshots and took them to her parents.

We met once a week to go over her progress, show ideas and to keep track of whether or not it was causing problems with her marriage. She confessed to me that in college she was very outspoken against webcam and had always equated it to prostitution. However, she had come to see it in a different light.

She has her own practice now, walking distance from Parque Lleras, although she isn't doing dentistry. She's doing beauty treatments and she says business is good.

Many of the Webcam models get started with some pimp boyfriend, or someone like me, pays them to fuck and then talks them into webcam. Many of them continue taking citas, or go back to hooking when it doesn't work out. However, the ones who go the farthest are the ones who were brought up with a good work ethic. Those are the ones who have or will never go the direct P4P route.

I could have used my roommate as another example. If you impressed her and caught her in the right mood, she would fuck you senseless (based on the noises I occasionally heard from her room, not personal experience) and then buy you breakfast, but if you offered her money you would feel like you just jumped into the lion cage at the zoo.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465187]I am not a FB kind of guy as simply don't need it as I only have one dick that needs loving about every other day so can't even see the number of chicas who are in my regular rotation however I too get many FB friend requests but just don't have the time to follow through.

Now my best Colombian buddy who over the course of the past 3 or 4 years is my wing man has literally thousands of chicas in his FB and since he is paisa and cheap as hell he gets the same chicas that many of you do for a third of the costs, he typically pays about a 100 mil for some real cuties, why? Because he loves to play the drama shit game with them and talks with them and builds up a friendship / confidence with some over the course of a year or more and so when they need some help wham he is there "Johnny on the spot" hehehehe..[/QUOTE]It's all good. As long as you're getting it, you get it.

My non-pro harem has been in turmoil. The cheerleader is pissed because someone told her that I was chatting with her best friend and that her best friend was sending me videos. Which is true, but nobody can prove it. Her sister is still friendly with me, even though 3 of the sister's friends are sending me videos in exchange for a bit of support for their livestream shows and the latest chapter of the porn story I'm writing. And the cheerleader's mother friended me on Facebook.

The cheerleader's best friend and her sister's best friend are the current interesting ones. Both of them, just last week said there was no way they would send any nude videos. Let's call them Cathy (cheerleader's BFF) and Mary (sister's BFF). Important background information: The story I'm writing is aimed at submissive women, which both have admitted fantasizing about.

Mary reluctantly agreed to break out a nipple and did, but then went back to Disney stuff. It took about 10 minutes to convince her to reconsider the G-Rated approach. The next day she said she would try, but she's never done anything like that before. That was Sunday. I just received about 20 minutes worth that I haven't seen yet, but apparently a banana and her vibrator are both involved, plus a cameo of her mother walking in unannounced. The screenshot is her current feeling about making porn for me.

Cathy let me add a condition to her videos in exchange for my stories. I get to add a challenge to each one. That also began Sunday. She's not as far along as Mary, but is down to just panties and today starts playing with herself. She's a bit tougher than Mary. Once I opened Mary's eyes, she jumped in headfirst. Cathy has been dipping her toe in the water, but each time she goes a bit deeper.

Got to do something to fill my downtime. Might as well corrupt the college girls of Colombia.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?

I am only 5% serious here because I have a warped sense of humor and the idea that we are sharing photos of our grocery carts feels like theater of the absurd. Anyway, I will first throw some shade. Pollo you throw around words like "healthy" and "fresh" but I see the sliced American cheese individually plastic wrapped and full of artificial dye along with gallons of Coca-Cola. Now for some empty bragging: Look at my cart, it's smaller but healthier. LOL!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2465199]Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

Is it the police who are watching or the street girl union leaders and the crime syndicate capos of Botero Plaza mentioned here in past weeks? But seriously, there is plenty of surveillance by camera, tourism police, national police, military, and plainclothes police. Including the family welfare and adolescent brigade. In Plaza Botero and throughout Medellin. Getting back to cameras it is not against the law to speak with or even enter buildings with anyone of any age. It is highly illegal to engage in certain activities with people who can't legally consent to it. So, once again for anyone who needs it, the best advice is to avoid it at all times.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465210]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465209]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?[/QUOTE]No they do not have face recognition, yet anyway, but that is not far off and could happen within the next few years.

Just step back for a moment and look at the transformation with all the public improvements they are making in this area, new streets, sidewalks, landscaping, seating, re-pavement with new signage and striping, the new walkway improvements along the the walking street Carabobo (Cr 52) and Calle 51 along with behind the vera on the whole stretch of Cundinamarca (Cr 53) etc. , etc. And the money being spent in the area, could they be planning to turn this area from a small bar street walking prostitution to a revived tourist zone? Just saying.

Look at the glass covered exhibit on CL 51 next to the vera! Any other time and place anywhere in Colombia and this would have been demolished and back-filled and covered with gravel and pavement, but no they even have it lighted to view at night, and what is it? An old sewer pipe system.

Next you ask about the security camera system and who is watching, you may think that it is a small room with maybe a cop haphazardly looking from time to time at a small screen! HUH they have a fully staffed and professionally equipment command center with multiple big screens, tracking camera systems, recording devices for all cameras, this rivals what you would find in a system in the USA. I have seen it.

How do I know that they know all us gringos who frequent Botero? Been told point blank by the sergeant in a conversation I had with him about 2 weeks ago as me and my Colombian buddy were standing in ground cento Vennie x-streets.

Was standing with my buddy and had an UNSOLICITED young Vennie simply walk up to us, withing 10 seconds two police magically showed up, beeline straight over to us, and spoke to us why we were speaking to a "known prostitute who's age is unclear and can not be verified". Yes after a few minutes they explained to us that we are being watched as they know us as the 2 gringos and that we should take their advice and leave the area and don't return that day.

Well after about 10 minutes my buddy and I thought it best to leave so we walked over to my car parked in the parqadero behind the museum and guess what? Yes we were followed by 2 other policemen and they kept their eyes on us, walked 20 meters behind us from ground zero over and into the parking spot until we drove out and left.

Of course we are known by the police, we stand out, I am recognizable from 3 blocks away and they have a memory like an elephant.

So I have factual first hand experience and my ONLY reason for posting this is so others can be mindful and just a bit careful when around this area.

Love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

Saw this vid gives a little glimpse of Centro now [URL]https://youtu.be/0JuDuIZxKWg[/URL].

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2465199]Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Soda on the bottom, cookies on the top. 'healthy food' LOL.

I am thankful people like PN and the Tall Man share their info. I happen to think they seem pretty straight up with only the usual embellishing everyone naturally does based on our biases perspectives imaginatioin ego and realty.

Hopefully I can create work for me there and in a 1 year or 2 I can move full time (or at least half the year to transition) to Medellin. I am trying to work on things now to make that reality happen and have already lived outside the US for the last decade--my point s--the posts here from some of the regulars are not only entertaining, they are motivating. The new MDE coming out of Covid will be interesting to watch and hopefully be a part of.

I wonder if the strip clubs will all open up or if there will be new ones or how that will change. Fase Dos, La Isla, Luna Lunera etc. They will always have a supply of girls and the locations are already there and built so I imagine it mostly picks up as usual come 2022 when the therapeutics and pseudo-vaccines actually get spread through enough of the market (if still needed).

This is absolutely true and I'm not sure why some here refuse to acknowledge it. Girls charge significantly different prices depending on where they are. I'd witnessed all sorts of permutations on this. For those that remember Geraldine from way back, she was charging 150 k at the Mansion and was available for 25 k at Mayorista. I've seen Fase 2 girls hanging around downtown available at a fraction of what they'd cost at the club. I've seen "Mansion girls" working at casas fucking guys for a fraction of what they'd get from a guest at the house.

My last trip in February, I met a very hot looking girl at a casa during the day. After the session, I got her number and later asked her to visit me in Poblado. We agreed on 150k + taxi for her to visit me. But she said if I got a motel downtown, 50 K was fine. After we fucked again (downtown), I asked her why she wanted three times as much to visit me. She said that she didn't feel like traveling to Poblado. It doesn't make sense, but she apparently had a comfort zone.

Of course every prepago doesn't do this. But a hell of a lot of them do.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO.

Now all understand that there are cameras in and around botero, the police are watching everything that goes on.

Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.

Now lets go get some new fresh pussy.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2465221]I am only 5% serious here because I have a warped sense of humor and the idea that we are sharing photos of our grocery carts feels like theater of the absurd. Anyway, I will first throw some shade. Pollo you throw around words like "healthy" and "fresh" but I see the sliced American cheese individually plastic wrapped and full of artificial dye along with gallons of Coca-Cola. Now for some empty bragging: Look at my cart, it's smaller but healthier. LOL![/QUOTE]Lets say I have a house full of visitors, which I do, many who have never ate American style hamburgers. I would hate to try and show them what hamburgers look like and taste like without american cheese and coca cola. Anyway you get the point, you're not buying a buggy full of groceries in the USA for $100 USD. It has to be my delivery that makes BMs point out every little thing that I type and run with it. Hamburgers are unhealthy but that's what I plan on cooking tonight, along with a big glass of coca cola. LOL, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2465239]Saw this vid gives a little glimpse of Centro now [URL]https://youtu.be/0JuDuIZxKWg[/URL].[/QUOTE]Two disgraceful, repulsive foreigners (gringos?) at 2'57" I saw them today as I walked to my bus after shopping for glasses and phone accessories downtown. They, and a couple of others look as bad or worse than the homeless Colombians with untreated mental illness in my neighborhood. In the army they'd surely get the sheep sheers and wire brush clean-up treatment.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465236]No they do not have face recognition, yet anyway, but that is not far off and could happen within the next few years.

Just step back for a moment and look at the transformation with all the public improvements they are making in this area, new streets, sidewalks, landscaping, seating, re-pavement with new signage and striping, the new walkway improvements along the the walking street Carabobo (Cr 52) and Calle 51 along with behind the vera on the whole stretch of Cundinamarca (Cr 53) etc. , etc. And the money being spent in the area, could they be planning to turn this area from a small bar street walking prostitution to a revived tourist zone? Just saying.

Look at the glass covered exhibit on CL 51 next to the vera! Any other time and place anywhere in Colombia and this would have been demolished and back-filled and covered with gravel and pavement, but no they even have it lighted to view at night, and what is it? An old sewer pipe system.

Next you ask about the security camera system and who is watching, you may think that it is a small room with maybe a cop haphazardly looking from time to time at a small screen! HUH they have a fully staffed and professionally equipment command center with multiple big screens, tracking camera systems, recording devices for all cameras, this rivals what you would find in a system in the USA. I have seen it.[/QUOTE]Interesting as a friend of mine who is an obvious gringo had a similar experience with a cop who came over and told him he was talking with a prostitute and to warn him. So really what is happening, it's not that they are watching for gringos specifically on their video system, but are also watching in person, and when they see an obvious gringo (s) they may intervene. So if you stick out like a sore thumb as you mentioned, you are going to get a lot of attention. Fortunately I pass as a Colombian and have been told so by other Colombians so I pretty much am under the radar until I open my mouth, however can totally relate to what you have experienced.

When I was India it was much more intense there being a foreigner than anywhere else in the world. Kind of like fly's on shit, everybody and your brother is checking you out, and when you think about it, there are a lot of places on this planet where people have never seen people of different races. I have a friend from South Korea who visits Medellin a lot, and he get's lot's of attention, more so than a gringo, and it rubs both ways, with the good way being all of the girls were checking him out.

Personally, I like flying under the radar, and the information you've provided is good for others to be aware of, and a reminder to always use caution, especially if you don't fit in.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2465242]Soda on the bottom, cookies on the top. 'healthy food' LOL.

I am thankful people like PN and the Tall Man share their info. I happen to think they seem pretty straight up with only the usual embellishing everyone naturally does based on our biases perspectives imaginatioin ego and realty.

Hopefully I can create work for me there and in a 1 year or 2 I can move full time (or at least half the year to transition) to Medellin. I am trying to work on things now to make that reality happen and have already lived outside the US for the last decade--my point s--the posts here from some of the regulars are not only entertaining, they are motivating. The new MDE coming out of Covid will be interesting to watch and hopefully be a part of.

I wonder if the strip clubs will all open up or if there will be new ones or how that will change. Fase Dos, La Isla, Luna Lunera etc. They will always have a supply of girls and the locations are already there and built so I imagine it mostly picks up as usual come 2022 when the therapeutics and pseudo-vaccines actually get spread through enough of the market (if still needed).[/QUOTE]From what several people have told me, most Colombian building owners have no problem letting a building or apartment sit empty. There isn't the urgency to get something rented or leased that you find in the US.

I imagine the strip clubs will all be back eventually.

Wifey has been gone for a couple days. Period, eyelashes appointment, braces appointment, checking in at home, etc. She's heading back now.

However, I was messaging a few girls from SA, yesterday. I had a good vibe with one of them. She offered to come over at 6 p. I asked for 8 p, because I was just cleaning and refilling the jacuzzi around 1 p. We settled on 7 p. I had to bring up the cost. She asked what I wanted to give her. I said 200 k for a few hours, condom ok but BBBJ and no other rules, no clock watching. She said 500 k. How that didn't kill the conversation is beyond me. She said I wouldn't regret it. I told her if I had a peso for every time I heard that line. Well, we agreed on 300 k.

24 yo mulatta, tight body, one tattoo under the armpit, scar on her side from surgery, long black hair, small natural tits, but almost a handful. Cute smile, great energy, good conversation. We had dinner and split a bottle of red wine. That alone made up for the 300 k price tag, as it compares to a night with Pinky & Wifey, slugging half-Smirnoffs all night and hoovering tussi. Anyway, we got in the jacuzzi, had some music on, and she was incredibly sexual and sensual. It was a nice change of pace from Wifey who gives me the Heisman if I accidentally touch her when we're in bed, sleeping. So, she looks about 20 yo, and doesn't have an ounce of fat on her. We go at it in the jacuzzi. Great kisser, very passionate, I had to go down on her. I'm certain she could hold a 500 peso moneda in there without it falling out. She returned the favor and she knows what the fuck she is doing. It was really nice. A couple positions in the jacuzzi, back and forth, and I busted in the condom. She begged to go into the bedroom.

So, off we went. I go back down on her, and she is convulsing. I forgot to mention that, in the first part. She orgasmed easily and hard. I don't know if she always does, or not. It was pretty passionate, and I could tell she was into it. She said she liked watching in the mirror. Rounds 2 and 3 were in the bed, and she kept pulling out new tricks. It was truly impressive. Positions, techniques, just wow. Deep-throating, face-fucking, spitting, hand use, ass play. No photos, but I got a few before we got in the jacuzzi, and another later when she was in bed. Anyway, it was a great few hours. I was dripping sweat and the end of Rounds 2 and 3. She tells me to come relax in bed, and she's massaging me, cuddling, all good. She had told me she wanted to come over early because she had work today. We're lying in bed and I told her she could stay if she wanted. She kind of looked me up and down, took her time, and said yes. I think we went to bed around 1130p. My balls hurt from pounding her all night.

So, I woke up at 7 a, and at 9 a, she's pulling me off the computer for Round 4. Oh, BTW, Rounds 3 & 4 were sin condon. So, around 10-11 a, she says she's leaving. She asked if I could get her an Uber, and I said no. Idk why, kind of a dick move, but I just felt like 300 k is a decent amount, and fuck an up-charge. She lives way up by Bello. She looked amazing, today. High heels, tight black pants, little red zip-up blouse. So, she leaves and we're messaging throughout the day. She asks if I have a girlfriend. We had talked about Wifey, but only that she lived here for awhile during quarantine and we had some parties, etc. I told her I don't have a girlfriend, but I have a special amiga that stays here. She said ok and said we should hook up again, this weekend. I asked about a threesome, and she asked for photos. I forgot to send them, but whatever. So, she then says that next time, I don't have to pay her. Well, if I could pay her taxis, that would be nice. I asked her why she wasn't working, today, and she said because it was an amazing night, she's sore, and she's tired.

So, 300 k well-spent, if you ask me. I think a threesome with her and Wifey would be amazing. Wifey would have her cumming in 30 seconds. She would also, hopefully, teach Wifey a thing or two about head game and fucking, and maybe even sensuality. We'll see...

Pinky asked me to help her with 400 k for rent, a week ago. I blew her off. Wifey also deleted her from WhatsApp, then Pinky reached out yesterday to ask if Wifey could help her find a job. I do feel bad, but fuck. I bought her a cell phone and a week later she's asking for 400 k. That's one TLN with some gringo, in my book. In my mind, I have 4-5 freebies from her, still.

Cheers.